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Michelle Pfeiffer was the perfect catwoman😇 They are right! The next Batman movies kinda suck😐 the one with Arnold is so cheesy that is actually fun😄. Oh..they dont recast michael and michelle😓
15:15 - Fun fact, Michelle Pfeiffer extensively trained and learned how to use a whip. This scene where she beheads three mannequins was not only done in one take, but was done on the fist take. In the BTS footage on YT, you can hear director Tim Burton yell "cut" after she does it, to which the entire crew appears in the frame to cheer and applaud her skill.
I think she was taught how to use a whip by Antony de Longis, same man who taught the whip to Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones and to Anthony Hopkins and Antonio Banderas for the zorro movies.
I also think Michelle Pfeiffer had the same whip coach as Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones, if I remember, the whip master who trained them said Pfeiffer was better. Also, she had to be sewed into that Catwoman suit each day.
Alfred's dirty limerick as requested: There once was a Batman named Wayne Who hit it off with a kittycat dame With a cowl on his head, brought his grapple gun to bed And out the window as quick as he came.
Not bad. Here's Alfred's dirty limerick as a note from Selina to Bruce: I'm so sorry to disrupt our date. As a couple, I think we'd be great, But plain old Miss Kyle Has got a new style. My pussy will just have to wait.
Michelle Pfeiffer's portrayal of Catwoman is my favorite out of any incarnation. Between her latex outfit, her makeup and the completely different tones of voice for the two sides of the same character are so purrfect. (Sorry, but I had to do a cat pun).
@@JayPadrig Max Shrek was originally intended to be Penguin's brother. The Cobblepots were supposed to have a second son that they kept after leaving Penguin for dead. It's why Penguin wants to kill every first born son in Gotham and why he has a lot of scenes with Max that look like they allude to something deeper.
Underrated by who? Everyone I know who has seen these movies loves this one over all the others. And I have yet to meet a Batman fan that does t like it.
@@noneya3635 It got a pretty lukewarm reception when it came out. Even now, those familiar with the Keaton Batman tend to gravitate towards the first one with Nicholson.
"Look at that fireplace. You could fit like 20 people in there..." 😂 Fun fact: Michelle Pfeiffer did the whip scene with the manequins in one shot. There is a video of that on TH-cam. She gets a big round of applause by the crew. 😊
Yes, Tim Burton did Edward Scissorhands. And it's always kinda impressed me how they found an actor to play Shreck's son who could mimic Christopher Walken's ununusal speech cadence so well without sounding like a comedic Walken impression.
Catwoman is what we would call a "tweener" in pro wrestling. Neither hero nor villain. She is a thief, in most traditional origin stories. A really good thief with a taste for super high-end scores. She doesn't tend to kill people & she has a soft spot for the less fortunate. This means that sometimes she's on Batman's side but only when it suits her personal goals.
Batman Returns opens with The Penguin being abandoned by his parents Tucker (Paul Reubens) and Esther (Diane Salinger) who also played together in Pee Wee's Big Adventure together years earlier. It's a cool callback.
When i was kid Michelle Pfeiffer was a checker at the only grocery store at the time in my hometown in the 70's. I talked to her younger sister Dedee in July about it too. This is my favorite of the old Batman films and I wish Michelle could have played Catwoman more.
My favourite Batman film. So rich and complex, with great characters and themes to the story. Looks and sounds amazing, and the moment when Bruce and Selina realise who the other really is is the best moment in any Tim Burton film.
Saw it as a 12-Years-old-Boy in the Cinema. It was a life-changing Experience. Big Batman-Fan since and forever. Danny deVito is great and Michelle Pfeiffer is outstanding. Probably my Fav-Perfomance in any Comic-Book-Movie
One of the darkest and most controversial BATMAN movies ever made. It was so controversial, some McDonald's restaurants refused to sell their happy meal toys to a movie with a PG-13 rating.
She's not necessarily brought back to life by the cats, she's possibly just got a brain injury and is very lucky! The whole movie is actually set up to always give her an excuse for her survival, whether it be all the times her fall is broken, or the ending where you can see the bullets hit her in non vital places.
I love Jack as The Joker but Danny Devito as Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman are iconic, the next ones are bad, but I think you could have fun with them as long as your not expecting this same caliber. Also never apologize for singing, I love when you get excited about music because I'm a huge music guy too, and you appreciate the music in things like no other reactor does.
Duckapitaded is my favorite word of the day. Thank you Jen 😂 Im glad you enjoyed Batman Returns. I wouldn't be against you pursuing the other sequels, just keep in mind they have a totally different feel.
I just watched this last night myself! It's one of my all time favorite Christmas movies and movies in general. What's so different about it is unlike other traditional Christmas films, this one does not have a happy ending. The hero despite making through doesn't really feel like a victory. The Penguin's story is one of the saddest and tragic stories I've ever seen for a villain. Catwoman's story despite showing she's somewhat open to change and real happiness rejects it outright and chooses to be a loner. Max Schreck is really the only villain losing that feels justified. The scene that always gets me is the Penguin's funeral where the only ones who never abandoned him and who truly loved him place him to rest in the water. Tim Burton and Danny Elfman of course are geniuses and masters of their crafts and bring together an experience that directors and composers are STILL trying to replicate.
Fun fact: the actor who played Oswald Cobblepot’s father was Paul Reubens, better known to the masses as Pee Wee Herman (Tim Burton directed “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure”). Fun Fact #2: If you’re as big a fan of Danny Elfman as you let on, you might enjoy checking out the band he fronted back in the ‘80’s. They were called ‘Oingo Boingo’ and they sounded just as chaotic and goofy as that name would suggest. You can still hear where his musical sensibilities were even back then. His brother is a filmmaker, so that’s where he got his start in film scoring.
Grew up with Keaton's batman so will always be special to me. I feel he nailed it especially after coming from comedy. His brooding Bruce Wayne was great and the title theme always gets the adrenaline flowing!
This was a lot of fun Danny did a fantastic job as penguin and him being so gross was amusing every single time you said it Jen 😂 Catwoman was great Michelle did a wonderful job as Catwoman and the shy dotty secretary . Hope you're having a wonderful day jen you deserve it , cheers for the fun time as always 🎉
There once was a man and a cat They hit it off right off the bat The purrs from her throat While stroking her coat Made his belt feel too tight as he sat
Thanks jen . Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it , a kiss can be even deadler if you mean it . Yes he did Edward scissorhands . Danny elfman did a wonderful score for Burton. In sleepy hollow
As requested, Alfred's dirty limerick: There once was a Batman from Gotham. Who'd chase every crook 'til he got 'em. Then Catwoman came 'round, And then they did throw down. But their boots, they sure did knock 'em.
Funny that most people don't notice this; Penguin's dad was played by Paul Ruben, aka Peewee Herman. Star of Pee Wee's Big Adventure, also scored by Danny Elfman and directed by Tim Burton.
I can so see Jen dressing up as this version of Catwoman for Halloween one year, which I'm sure she would totally slay! 😉 Also, I would very highly recommend Edward Scissorhands too, abother wonderful movie that's pretty Christmas-y too! 😊
Thanks, Jen! Sometime soon you should look up the three actresses who played Catwoman opposite Adam West in the '60s. Julie Newmar and Eartha Kitt were in TV, and Lee Merriweather was in the '60s movie.
A couple of months ago my Wife and I were at a Danny Elfman/ Tim Burton concert at the Royal Albert Hall London. It was unbelievable. Danny came out and sang songs from Nightmare before Christmas.. Tim Made a special appearance at the end.
@@jenmurrayxo 20:39 Alfred's limerick There was an old man from Madras Who's balls were made of fine brass So that in stormy weather They both clanged together And sparks flew out of his ass Or There was a sex worker from Crewe Who filled up her privates with glue She then said with a grin If they pay to get in Then they'll pay to get out again too
Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie, but I have such great nostalgia and memories with Batman Forever that I love it even though people don't always have nice things to say about it.
Seeing Michelle Pfeiffer again reminded me of Stardust (2007). You absolutely need to see it. Got a whole Princess Bride vibe of not taking itself too serious. People loved the adventure, but unfortunately it was a complete standalone. They could have build a whole universe of it.
Paul Reubens aka. Pee-Wee Herman and Diane Salinger play Penguins parents. Both were in Tim Burton’s directorial debut ‘Pee Wees Big Adventure’ Diane played Simone.
Paul Reubens (pee wee Herman) played the penguins father. Michelle Pfeiffer performed the whip scene in the store in one take. Danny devito has the penguin costume displayed in a glass case in his house. There was supposed be a cat woman movie with Michelle but the timing was always off and she said she got to the point where she felt she was too old to do it. I think she could still do it today, she still looks amazing.
It's more like if they gave Killer Croc that Penguin story where he tried to become mayor. It's not really Penguin and this shaped everyones view of the character for a long time. Which up until then, everyone thought of Burgess Meredith, the guy who plays Mickey in Rocky.
"She looks like a 🧟♂️... She kinda is!" Astute as always Jen 🧐 Thankfully, Selena lacks the hunger for tasty 🧠 An undead entity driven by revenge is commonly known as a Revenant. Revenant Catwoman and sewer monster Penguin are two of my favorite interpretations of the characters, making Returns one of my Batman faves. Before going on to the Schumacher Batmen (Forever and B&R), I highly recommend checking out the Adam West Batman movie from 1966, as it will help prepare you for Schumacher's brand of Batman humor 😅
The fun and the music are two things that just aren't there in newer Batman movies. Tim Burton really has a gift for creating a dark setting, but pulling back just enough with a bit of levity to keep from feeling too heavy. Danny Elfman's score takes it to a whole new level.
This is one of the three great superhero theme tunes - the others are Elfman's Spider-Man theme and Williams' Superman. Most themes since then are simply forgettable
This movie is by far my favorite Christmas/super hero/Batman movie and movie in general of all time! I love it! It's always a fun time watching it! I love Michael Keaton, Batman is my favorite super hero and Catwoman is my favorite female character of all time! I also love me some Tim Burton movies! I could go on and on but I just love this movie so much and I'm so glad that you did too! Sorry if my comment is all over the place but I just love any excuse to talk about this movie!
The Tim Burton Batman films really got me into collecting die-cast models of the Batmobile and Batman action figures as a child. That's carried into adulthood where I still look for the latest Batman figure designs. I also play Video Games and Batman Returns on the SNES is by far one of the best on that console!
This is the MOST Burtonisque movie of all time! Tim was given complete control, full range. It's a Gothic fever dream in the best way. EACH FRAME is a work of art. LOOOOOVE IT!
I would certainly be interested in seeing your reactions to the two Batman movies after this. Might as well watch all of them! Well, all of them except for the 1966 Adam West Batman show. I loved how you talked about Bruce's fireplace. "You could fit 20 people in there! Not that I ... you'd wanna do that ..."
My 6th favorite movie of all time, 2nd favorite superhero movie (after the original 2002 Spider-Man), and favorite film score of all time containing my favorite piece of music ever written (Selina Transforms, the main Catwoman theme)
Burton did indeed do Edward Scissorhands. It's brilliant and heartbreaking, and has what is probably Danny Elfman's best score (he thinks so IIRC, and I agree). You should definitely watch it. And Corpse Bride. That is another Burton/Elfman collab that doesn't get enough attention.
One of my favorites movies and definitely one I rewatch with pleasure every December as one of my Xmas mood flicks! Michelle Pfeiffer took the crazy cat lady expression to a whole new level. She's amazing in this and her chemistry with Batman is awesome!
I've always liked Michael Keaton as Batman and Michelle Phieffer was the best catwoman... Sexy and evil... with or without glasses! Lol🤓 loved your duckcapitated pun!! 😂😂😂 I would watch any or all the following batmans you choose to watch. It's always a fun time watching your reactions! Also Luv your musical appreciation for the soundtracks! Luv ya Jen ❤️💛
I was 6 when I saw the original in the theater in 89 and about 9 years old when I saw this in the theater. I remember being so excited sitting in my theater seat waiting for the movie to begin. Definitely check out the next two films. Though they have their flaws, there is still plenty of entertainment value in them, for different reasons. As a fan of the classic 1960's Batman tv show, I get many of the inside nods to that show, which is why I do enjoy the next film and the 4th one to a lesser extent. Great reaction.
Please watch them all, Jen. Some are def better than others, but I think they all deserve a watch. Fully embrace the comic/campy early 90s superhero shtick
I still see Julie Newmar when I think Catwoman. Penguin feels like a swing and a miss both here and in Burgess Meredith's (Rocky's Mick) version. We never get a sense of the character's abilities beyond tricky umbrellas. And here, his ability to hijack control of a car he knows nothing about is ludicrous.
Really cool movie, Tim Burton's films are always so artful and dreamlike. Jen, you'd make an awesome "cat broad," "Mee-Ouch!" It took all my discipline to wait a half hour for the best pun ever. I forgot the brilliant Jan Hooks had a small part, I miss her.
Legit one of my favourite movies growing up and probably one of my favourites of the whole dang franchise. When my buddy Jake asked me to play Mr Freeze in his holiday-themed epsiode of his Batman fanfilm series (see it over at Claws and Webs Productions), I convinced him to include a reference to those final lines. "Well, come what may. Merry Christmas, Mister Wayne." "Merry Christmas, Alfred. Good will toward men... and women."
My second Favorite Walken performance, only just behind Dead Zone. And the fact that his character in this is named after the actor who played Nosferatu is a nice gothic touch.
I think it's fair to say Catwoman is more of an anti-hero. Especially in this version. Originally she is a cat burglar, a thief, but she's not a killer. She can sometimes do the right thing, but mostly she's motivated If there's a profit in it. There is a comicbook adaptation of the cancelled 3rd Tim Burton Batman movie, which was apparently gonna be called Batman Continues (I don't know If the comic has that title also). The villain in that one is Billy Dee Williams's Harvey Dent as Two-Face, Robin is introduced & he's black (Marlon Wayans was considered for the role) & Catwoman would have returned also. Speaking of Catwoman, the infamous Halle Berry movie was originally gonna be a spinoff movie with Michelle Pfeiffer returning, but that project took years before it could be made & Pfeiffer lost interest (plus I think she was relieved to not having to put on the suit again since it wasn't a pleasure to put that suit on & off according to her)
"There was a young woman, blonde and pretty Who tended to act like a Kitty When Bruce saw her in Latex He craved morally grey sex But things got too weird (such a pity!)" (Alfred's Dirty Limerick)
Thanks for the reaction, glad you enjoyed it! It's ma favorite Batman movie. And yeah, you should also check out "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin". They are cheezy and campy... but they are a lot of fun! Also they have Val Kilmer (Forever) and George Clooney (Batman & Robin) as Batmen. Something you just have to see!
@@TommygunNG Well, that is nothing in compared what happens in the Joel Schumacher movies... which are very comedic and slightly insane ;-) ... but still very enjoyable for different reasons.
You are completely wrong. As in, 180° wrong. The Michael Keaton movies make Batman out to be psychotic. Kilmer and Clooney played the character as sane and responsible. Considering that they are movies about superheroes and super villains, the latter two are vastly less ridiculous. “Pop versus kettle” is an understatement in describing your comment.
Great comments throughout, as always. 🤣 I think the mask removal process was just too long or tedious for that moment. He didn't want to say, "Hold that thought." and have her wait 5 minutes, so he just ripped it instead.
Ok Part III YES!! You should absolutely watch the next one. I liked the actor (trying not to spoil) who plays Batman. You will have fun and we will have fun with you and your funningness!! ☮️
I highly recommend Mask of the Phantasm (1993 animated film) before moving on to the Joel Schumacher films. Excellent Batman story. You should definitely watch Batman Forever. Jim Carey is very entertaining as Riddler, very in the spirit of the original '66 portrayal by Frank Gorshin. Batman & Robin isn't essential viewing, but it can be fun. It dials the cheese-factor to 11, but it's so bad it's good.
Batman Returns is one of my favorite Christmas movies and one of best Batman movies. I even have fan vintage version that looks like 1920 silent movie and looks great.
Another TV show you should try to watch is Gotham from 2014-2019. Has a the Batman tropes and more. Penguin's father in the beginning was played by Paul Reubens aka Peewee Herman and recreates Penguin's dad in the series but you have to go to the 4th or 5th season of Gotham for that. Gotham also has the best Alfred, who also is a fighting Alfred in it. Also, at 7:46 this scene is recreated in the 4th or 5th season of Gotham with a new different story behind it. Excellent show.
I still watch this anytime it's on. Michael Keaton and Michelle Pfeiffer were such a great pairing. I think you'd love Michael Keaton in Multiplicity. A great fun comedy! Edit: Duck-apitation made me crack up 😂
Dont know if anyone mentioned if but Michelle actually did her own stunts and whip work. She actually learned how to handle a whip and did the moves herself on set. There are videos from about the last 4 or 5 years where fans handed a whip to her and she can STILL pull off the moves from Returns nearly 30 years later. THATS an actor.
Who stole the screen more: Penguin or Catwoman?
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Hard to say who stole the show so I will say both did an equally well in this movie
Catwoman!
This is my favorite Batman! And you, are my favorite TH-camr! Thanks for reacting to this.
Michelle Pfeiffer was the perfect catwoman😇
They are right! The next Batman movies kinda suck😐 the one with Arnold is so cheesy that is actually fun😄. Oh..they dont recast michael and michelle😓
Catwoman. 🐈⬛️ . Have you watched 'The Nightmare Before Christmas'?
Michelle Pfeiffer is the best Catwoman to date, in my opinion. She really put her own unique spin on the character.
It's the standard answer. I'd put in a vote for Hathaway, who surprised me.
Julie Newmar for the win. OK, I'm an oldie but meow.
Michelle Pfeiffer stomps Anne Hathaway out in terms of playing as Catwoman.
All the women playing Catwomen are great, but only Michelle Pfeiffer put the Cat in Catwoman, and trapped a bird in her mouth.
@@promiscuous675I almost agree with you, but can’t include Halle Berry on the list.
15:15 - Fun fact, Michelle Pfeiffer extensively trained and learned how to use a whip. This scene where she beheads three mannequins was not only done in one take, but was done on the fist take. In the BTS footage on YT, you can hear director Tim Burton yell "cut" after she does it, to which the entire crew appears in the frame to cheer and applaud her skill.
I think she was taught how to use a whip by Antony de Longis, same man who taught the whip to Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones and to Anthony Hopkins and Antonio Banderas for the zorro movies.
I also think Michelle Pfeiffer had the same whip coach as Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones, if I remember, the whip master who trained them said Pfeiffer was better. Also, she had to be sewed into that Catwoman suit each day.
Alfred's dirty limerick as requested:
There once was a Batman named Wayne
Who hit it off with a kittycat dame
With a cowl on his head, brought his grapple gun to bed
And out the window as quick as he came.
Not bad. Here's Alfred's dirty limerick as a note from Selina to Bruce:
I'm so sorry to disrupt our date.
As a couple, I think we'd be great,
But plain old Miss Kyle
Has got a new style.
My pussy will just have to wait.
Michelle Pfeiffer's portrayal of Catwoman is my favorite out of any incarnation. Between her latex outfit, her makeup and the completely different tones of voice for the two sides of the same character are so purrfect. (Sorry, but I had to do a cat pun).
Best Catwoman since Julie Newmar.
Batman Returns is such a good movie. Danny Devito and Michelle Pfeiffer as Penguin and Catwoman is so iconic, they nailed the roles perfectly.
@@JayPadrig Max Shrek was originally intended to be Penguin's brother. The Cobblepots were supposed to have a second son that they kept after leaving Penguin for dead. It's why Penguin wants to kill every first born son in Gotham and why he has a lot of scenes with Max that look like they allude to something deeper.
The most underrated Batman movie, so creative, stylish, great performances, and a perfect soundtrack
Underrated by who? Everyone I know who has seen these movies loves this one over all the others. And I have yet to meet a Batman fan that does t like it.
how was this underrated? this is the batman the most batman fans grew up with.
@@noneya3635 It got a pretty lukewarm reception when it came out. Even now, those familiar with the Keaton Batman tend to gravitate towards the first one with Nicholson.
Batman Forever is the most underrated
Underated compared with Nolan Batman....
"Look at that fireplace. You could fit like 20 people in there..." 😂
Fun fact: Michelle Pfeiffer did the whip scene with the manequins in one shot. There is a video of that on TH-cam. She gets a big round of applause by the crew. 😊
Yes, Tim Burton did Edward Scissorhands.
And it's always kinda impressed me how they found an actor to play Shreck's son who could mimic Christopher Walken's ununusal speech cadence so well without sounding like a comedic Walken impression.
And that was somehow Zangeiff from the _Street Fighter_ movie
It's Andrew Bryniarski. His most famous role would be Leatherface in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 remake and it's prequel The Beginning.
Catwoman is what we would call a "tweener" in pro wrestling. Neither hero nor villain. She is a thief, in most traditional origin stories. A really good thief with a taste for super high-end scores. She doesn't tend to kill people & she has a soft spot for the less fortunate. This means that sometimes she's on Batman's side but only when it suits her personal goals.
anti-hero in some terms
Batman Returns opens with The Penguin being abandoned by his parents Tucker (Paul Reubens) and Esther (Diane Salinger) who also played together in Pee Wee's Big Adventure together years earlier. It's a cool callback.
Yep, Pee Wee & Simone 😁
And years later, Paul Reubens would play the Penguin's father again in the TV show, Gotham.
Gotta love Jen's appreciation for soundtracks.
Danny is a win
31:21... "duck-capitated" Hilarious!! 🤣
When i was kid Michelle Pfeiffer was a checker at the only grocery store at the time in my hometown in the 70's. I talked to her younger sister Dedee in July about it too. This is my favorite of the old Batman films and I wish Michelle could have played Catwoman more.
My favourite Batman film. So rich and complex, with great characters and themes to the story. Looks and sounds amazing, and the moment when Bruce and Selina realise who the other really is is the best moment in any Tim Burton film.
That scene always gave me shivers, even as a kid. So well done!
Love this movie, Michael Keaton is my favorite Batman. Thanks Jen
Saw it as a 12-Years-old-Boy in the Cinema. It was a life-changing Experience. Big Batman-Fan since and forever. Danny deVito is great and Michelle Pfeiffer is outstanding. Probably my Fav-Perfomance in any Comic-Book-Movie
One of the darkest and most controversial BATMAN movies ever made. It was so controversial, some McDonald's restaurants refused to sell their happy meal toys to a movie with a PG-13 rating.
She's not necessarily brought back to life by the cats, she's possibly just got a brain injury and is very lucky! The whole movie is actually set up to always give her an excuse for her survival, whether it be all the times her fall is broken, or the ending where you can see the bullets hit her in non vital places.
I love Jack as The Joker but Danny Devito as Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman are iconic, the next ones are bad, but I think you could have fun with them as long as your not expecting this same caliber. Also never apologize for singing, I love when you get excited about music because I'm a huge music guy too, and you appreciate the music in things like no other reactor does.
Duckapitaded is my favorite word of the day. Thank you Jen 😂
Im glad you enjoyed Batman Returns. I wouldn't be against you pursuing the other sequels, just keep in mind they have a totally different feel.
I just watched this last night myself! It's one of my all time favorite Christmas movies and movies in general. What's so different about it is unlike other traditional Christmas films, this one does not have a happy ending. The hero despite making through doesn't really feel like a victory. The Penguin's story is one of the saddest and tragic stories I've ever seen for a villain. Catwoman's story despite showing she's somewhat open to change and real happiness rejects it outright and chooses to be a loner. Max Schreck is really the only villain losing that feels justified. The scene that always gets me is the Penguin's funeral where the only ones who never abandoned him and who truly loved him place him to rest in the water. Tim Burton and Danny Elfman of course are geniuses and masters of their crafts and bring together an experience that directors and composers are STILL trying to replicate.
Fun fact: the actor who played Oswald Cobblepot’s father was Paul Reubens, better known to the masses as Pee Wee Herman (Tim Burton directed “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure”).
Fun Fact #2: If you’re as big a fan of Danny Elfman as you let on, you might enjoy checking out the band he fronted back in the ‘80’s. They were called ‘Oingo Boingo’ and they sounded just as chaotic and goofy as that name would suggest. You can still hear where his musical sensibilities were even back then. His brother is a filmmaker, so that’s where he got his start in film scoring.
Beat me to it.
Grew up with Keaton's batman so will always be special to me. I feel he nailed it especially after coming from comedy. His brooding Bruce Wayne was great and the title theme always gets the adrenaline flowing!
Agree with this, but watching this again reminded me how little Batman there is in this film. Fascinating film, but I could do with much more Keaton.
This was a lot of fun Danny did a fantastic job as penguin and him being so gross was amusing every single time you said it Jen 😂 Catwoman was great Michelle did a wonderful job as Catwoman and the shy dotty secretary . Hope you're having a wonderful day jen you deserve it , cheers for the fun time as always 🎉
Thanks Ian!
This soundtrack is one of my all-time favorites. Danny Elfman at his finest.
Duck-capitated! Excellent!!😂
There once was a man and a cat
They hit it off right off the bat
The purrs from her throat
While stroking her coat
Made his belt feel too tight as he sat
It’s very subtle but at the costume party Bruce Wayne and Selena Kyle ARE their masks.
Thanks jen . Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it , a kiss can be even deadler if you mean it .
Yes he did Edward scissorhands . Danny elfman did a wonderful score for Burton. In sleepy hollow
As requested, Alfred's dirty limerick:
There once was a Batman from Gotham.
Who'd chase every crook 'til he got 'em.
Then Catwoman came 'round,
And then they did throw down.
But their boots, they sure did knock 'em.
Funny that most people don't notice this; Penguin's dad was played by Paul Ruben, aka Peewee Herman. Star of Pee Wee's Big Adventure, also scored by Danny Elfman and directed by Tim Burton.
I can so see Jen dressing up as this version of Catwoman for Halloween one year, which I'm sure she would totally slay! 😉
Also, I would very highly recommend Edward Scissorhands too, abother wonderful movie that's pretty Christmas-y too! 😊
Ah the days before heavy CGI. Well done for it's time for sure.
Thanks, Jen! Sometime soon you should look up the three actresses who played Catwoman opposite Adam West in the '60s. Julie Newmar and Eartha Kitt were in TV, and Lee Merriweather was in the '60s movie.
A couple of months ago my Wife and I were at a Danny Elfman/ Tim Burton concert at the Royal Albert Hall London. It was unbelievable. Danny came out and sang songs from Nightmare before Christmas.. Tim Made a special appearance at the end.
This is my favorite Catwoman origin story. She's brought back to make the wrong things right, like the Crow with paws and pink noses! 🤠🐈
This was a great follow up to batman. So glad to seeing you reacting to it. Thanks for doing so.
I've seen enough reactions now to know the way to Jens heart is through her ears 🎵
Facts
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20:39 Alfred's limerick
There was an old man from Madras
Who's balls were made of fine brass
So that in stormy weather
They both clanged together
And sparks flew out of his ass
Or
There was a sex worker from Crewe
Who filled up her privates with glue
She then said with a grin
If they pay to get in
Then they'll pay to get out again too
31:21: “Duck-capitated!” 😄🦆
Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie, but I have such great nostalgia and memories with Batman Forever that I love it even though people don't always have nice things to say about it.
Seeing Michelle Pfeiffer again reminded me of Stardust (2007). You absolutely need to see it. Got a whole Princess Bride vibe of not taking itself too serious. People loved the adventure, but unfortunately it was a complete standalone. They could have build a whole universe of it.
One of the rare times that I liked the movie better than the book. Definitely worth a watch!
"Teach her my French flipper trick." I love Danny Devito!
There once was a woman named Kyle
who wanted to stay for a while
but she thinks she a cat
and she fell for a bat
so she ran off and did it with style.
Paul Reubens aka. Pee-Wee Herman and Diane Salinger play Penguins parents. Both were in Tim Burton’s directorial debut ‘Pee Wees Big Adventure’ Diane played Simone.
Paul Reubens (pee wee Herman) played the penguins father.
Michelle Pfeiffer performed the whip scene in the store in one take.
Danny devito has the penguin costume displayed in a glass case in his house.
There was supposed be a cat woman movie with Michelle but the timing was always off and she said she got to the point where she felt she was too old to do it. I think she could still do it today, she still looks amazing.
It's more like if they gave Killer Croc that Penguin story where he tried to become mayor. It's not really Penguin and this shaped everyones view of the character for a long time. Which up until then, everyone thought of Burgess Meredith, the guy who plays Mickey in Rocky.
"She looks like a 🧟♂️... She kinda is!"
Astute as always Jen 🧐
Thankfully, Selena lacks the hunger for tasty 🧠
An undead entity driven by revenge is commonly known as a Revenant.
Revenant Catwoman and sewer monster Penguin are two of my favorite interpretations of the characters, making Returns one of my Batman faves.
Before going on to the Schumacher Batmen (Forever and B&R), I highly recommend checking out the Adam West Batman movie from 1966, as it will help prepare you for Schumacher's brand of Batman humor 😅
Revenant Catwoman equals Crow (but with a Cat, obviously).
great reaction Jen. Totally on point with the Danny Elfman music. Some of his best IMO.
This & Gremlins are my favorite Christmas films
Thank you!
The one thing I always thought, even as a kid.
He had the wings the entire time, why didn’t he rescue the ice princess 😂
The fun and the music are two things that just aren't there in newer Batman movies. Tim Burton really has a gift for creating a dark setting, but pulling back just enough with a bit of levity to keep from feeling too heavy. Danny Elfman's score takes it to a whole new level.
Danny Elfman really raised the bar when he did the music scoring for this film
This is one of the three great superhero theme tunes - the others are Elfman's Spider-Man theme and Williams' Superman. Most themes since then are simply forgettable
This movie is by far my favorite Christmas/super hero/Batman movie and movie in general of all time! I love it! It's always a fun time watching it! I love Michael Keaton, Batman is my favorite super hero and Catwoman is my favorite female character of all time! I also love me some Tim Burton movies! I could go on and on but I just love this movie so much and I'm so glad that you did too! Sorry if my comment is all over the place but I just love any excuse to talk about this movie!
The Tim Burton Batman films really got me into collecting die-cast models of the Batmobile and Batman action figures as a child. That's carried into adulthood where I still look for the latest Batman figure designs.
I also play Video Games and Batman Returns on the SNES is by far one of the best on that console!
31:20
That was indeed great, Jen. 🤣🤣🤣
This is the MOST Burtonisque movie of all time! Tim was given complete control, full range. It's a Gothic fever dream in the best way. EACH FRAME is a work of art. LOOOOOVE IT!
Thanks jen . I never liked these movies but liked reactions on both. Much appreciated.
This is my favorite Batman movie, frankly.
You need to watch Batman (1966). It is the funniest Batman movie of all time and I think you would love the camp.
I would certainly be interested in seeing your reactions to the two Batman movies after this. Might as well watch all of them! Well, all of them except for the 1966 Adam West Batman show.
I loved how you talked about Bruce's fireplace. "You could fit 20 people in there! Not that I ... you'd wanna do that ..."
You're breaking my heart. Adam West 60s Batman was hilarious! And with all respect to Michelle Pfeiffer, I still love Julie Newmar as Catwoman.
Awesome reaction and awesome pun. You continue to be the best, most watchable reactor out there.
Thank you! :)
My 6th favorite movie of all time, 2nd favorite superhero movie (after the original 2002 Spider-Man), and favorite film score of all time containing my favorite piece of music ever written (Selina Transforms, the main Catwoman theme)
Burton did indeed do Edward Scissorhands. It's brilliant and heartbreaking, and has what is probably Danny Elfman's best score (he thinks so IIRC, and I agree). You should definitely watch it. And Corpse Bride. That is another Burton/Elfman collab that doesn't get enough attention.
The guy who played Walken’s son deserves an Oscar. He nailed the Walken impression before it was even a thing.
I watch this every Christmas 🎄
One of my favorites movies and definitely one I rewatch with pleasure every December as one of my Xmas mood flicks! Michelle Pfeiffer took the crazy cat lady expression to a whole new level. She's amazing in this and her chemistry with Batman is awesome!
I've always liked Michael Keaton as Batman and Michelle Phieffer was the best catwoman... Sexy and evil... with or without glasses! Lol🤓 loved your duckcapitated pun!! 😂😂😂 I would watch any or all the following batmans you choose to watch. It's always a fun time watching your reactions! Also Luv your musical appreciation for the soundtracks! Luv ya Jen ❤️💛
31:20 was indeed a great pun 👍
I was 6 when I saw the original in the theater in 89 and about 9 years old when I saw this in the theater. I remember being so excited sitting in my theater seat waiting for the movie to begin. Definitely check out the next two films. Though they have their flaws, there is still plenty of entertainment value in them, for different reasons. As a fan of the classic 1960's Batman tv show, I get many of the inside nods to that show, which is why I do enjoy the next film and the 4th one to a lesser extent. Great reaction.
Hi Jen. This is one of my favorite movies. Hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
Thanks John, I loved this one too! :)
I still get chills at the start with this title reveal. Nothing beats Elfman's soundtrack for the Burton Batman films.
Please watch them all, Jen. Some are def better than others, but I think they all deserve a watch. Fully embrace the comic/campy early 90s superhero shtick
Part II 😁 WOW!! The mask thing. Never thought about that. Man your intuitive!! 🕊️☮️
I still see Julie Newmar when I think Catwoman. Penguin feels like a swing and a miss both here and in Burgess Meredith's (Rocky's Mick) version. We never get a sense of the character's abilities beyond tricky umbrellas. And here, his ability to hijack control of a car he knows nothing about is ludicrous.
I’ve been waiting for this one for a while hands down one of the best atmospheric movies of all time
Really cool movie, Tim Burton's films are always so artful and dreamlike. Jen, you'd make an awesome "cat broad," "Mee-Ouch!" It took all my discipline to wait a half hour for the best pun ever. I forgot the brilliant Jan Hooks had a small part, I miss her.
I used to go to sleep to the Edward Scissorhands soundtrack by Danny Elfman for years 😁
"Look at that fire place, you could fit like twenty people in there!" 😂
31:16 "Duckapicated!" LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Legit one of my favourite movies growing up and probably one of my favourites of the whole dang franchise. When my buddy Jake asked me to play Mr Freeze in his holiday-themed epsiode of his Batman fanfilm series (see it over at Claws and Webs Productions), I convinced him to include a reference to those final lines.
"Well, come what may. Merry Christmas, Mister Wayne."
"Merry Christmas, Alfred. Good will toward men... and women."
Paul rubens (Pee wee Hermann) had a bit role at the beginning as the penguin's father.
My second Favorite Walken performance, only just behind Dead Zone. And the fact that his character in this is named after the actor who played Nosferatu is a nice gothic touch.
I think it's fair to say Catwoman is more of an anti-hero. Especially in this version.
Originally she is a cat burglar, a thief, but she's not a killer. She can sometimes do the right thing, but mostly she's motivated If there's a profit in it.
There is a comicbook adaptation of the cancelled 3rd Tim Burton Batman movie, which was apparently gonna be called Batman Continues (I don't know If the comic has that title also).
The villain in that one is Billy Dee Williams's Harvey Dent as Two-Face, Robin is introduced & he's black (Marlon Wayans was considered for the role) & Catwoman would have returned also.
Speaking of Catwoman, the infamous Halle Berry movie was originally gonna be a spinoff movie with Michelle Pfeiffer returning, but that project took years before it could be made & Pfeiffer lost interest (plus I think she was relieved to not having to put on the suit again since it wasn't a pleasure to put that suit on & off according to her)
the MARLON WAYANS
rumor
is FAKE
he started that as a joke
that snowballed from there
**slaps fireplace mantle** you can fit 20 people in this bad boy
"There was a young woman, blonde and pretty
Who tended to act like a Kitty
When Bruce saw her in Latex
He craved morally grey sex
But things got too weird (such a pity!)"
(Alfred's Dirty Limerick)
"Duck-capitated"...only you , hahahahaha
26:14: This was a play on a line in The Elephant Man (a great film): “I am not an animal. I am a man.”
The music is awesome
Edward Scissorhands is a Tim Burton joint & Johnny Depp is a revelation! 🖤🌹🖤🧛
Thanks for the reaction, glad you enjoyed it! It's ma favorite Batman movie.
And yeah, you should also check out "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin". They are cheezy and campy... but they are a lot of fun!
Also they have Val Kilmer (Forever) and George Clooney (Batman & Robin) as Batmen. Something you just have to see!
What movie had penguins firing rockets, and you say those later two were “cheesy and campy”?
@@TommygunNG Well, that is nothing in compared what happens in the Joel Schumacher movies... which are very comedic and slightly insane ;-) ... but still very enjoyable for different reasons.
You are completely wrong. As in, 180° wrong. The Michael Keaton movies make Batman out to be psychotic. Kilmer and Clooney played the character as sane and responsible. Considering that they are movies about superheroes and super villains, the latter two are vastly less ridiculous.
“Pop versus kettle” is an understatement in describing your comment.
@@TommygunNGbat credit card? Argument done
Sure. Do you not think Batman would have awesome credit in Gotham City? Any business would take it.
Danny Devito is so good as the Penguin. I wish we'd seen his Penguin rendition in Last Action Hero, that would have been epic.
Great comments throughout, as always. 🤣
I think the mask removal process was just too long or tedious for that moment. He didn't want to say, "Hold that thought." and have her wait 5 minutes, so he just ripped it instead.
Ok Part III YES!! You should absolutely watch the next one. I liked the actor (trying not to spoil) who plays Batman. You will have fun and we will have fun with you and your funningness!! ☮️
I highly recommend Mask of the Phantasm (1993 animated film) before moving on to the Joel Schumacher films. Excellent Batman story.
You should definitely watch Batman Forever. Jim Carey is very entertaining as Riddler, very in the spirit of the original '66 portrayal by Frank Gorshin. Batman & Robin isn't essential viewing, but it can be fun. It dials the cheese-factor to 11, but it's so bad it's good.
Batman Returns is one of my favorite Christmas movies and one of best Batman movies. I even have fan vintage version that looks like 1920 silent movie and looks great.
Another TV show you should try to watch is Gotham from 2014-2019. Has a the Batman tropes and more. Penguin's father in the beginning was played by Paul Reubens aka Peewee Herman and recreates Penguin's dad in the series but you have to go to the 4th or 5th season of Gotham for that. Gotham also has the best Alfred, who also is a fighting Alfred in it. Also, at 7:46 this scene is recreated in the 4th or 5th season of Gotham with a new different story behind it. Excellent show.
26:44 At the party. "everyone is got a mask except him" Bruce Wayne is the disguise. He is Batman
I still watch this anytime it's on. Michael Keaton and Michelle Pfeiffer were such a great pairing.
I think you'd love Michael Keaton in Multiplicity. A great fun comedy!
Edit: Duck-apitation made me crack up 😂
She really would. It's long but a pretty funny movie, Steve.
Dont know if anyone mentioned if but Michelle actually did her own stunts and whip work. She actually learned how to handle a whip and did the moves herself on set. There are videos from about the last 4 or 5 years where fans handed a whip to her and she can STILL pull off the moves from Returns nearly 30 years later. THATS an actor.
Al's Dirty Limerick: Roses in Bed, Violets in Bloom, Bruce is a Gardener, Who Digs Flowers in his Super Sexy Halloween Cosplay. 🦇😎