I actually love Michael Keaton just sitting in the room doing nothing until the “Bat-Light” shines over him. It says a lot about Bruce Wayne that he literally just has no interest in doing anything other than wait to be Batman again
I might be wrong but I feel like in the 2003 cartoon, when Joker spends an episode being the Batman, he gives off a satirized version of that scene where he's still Joker but he's dressed as Michael Keaton and just takes his glasses off and is like 'this is a job for the Bat-Man!' Random but it just has such goofy energy I love it
Yes if only they had come up with a more discreet way of the signal shining Into his room other than Wayne manor having like 3 different bat signals on the roof. Lol people might notice that
The fact that Bruce Wayne was basically existing in stasis like an NPC until the bat-symbol appeared and he could go be Batman is perfect characterization IMO
Alfred is the real hero of these movies. Finding time to make soup for Batman after building break-away batmobiles, and one use batarangs, and bat-dojos. You just know hes collecting all that junk off the streets on his way to the shops. I bet Batman yelled at him, saying "they're one use only! Now make me another fruit-rollup batsuit. This one's torn."
That's the reason I hated The Batman with RobBat Batenbat. Dude was a total dick to Alfred and to pretty much everyone. Also he was an idiot who needed one villain to teach him the biggest crime boss in Gotham was a bad guy...
I think the funniest trivia about this Batman was how his suit was so rigid he couldn't really turn his neck so EVERY turn was this super rigid, stoic and DRAMATIC full body turn. It suits the campiness of this movieand dread of this Batman so well.
In fact, Penguin running for Mayor isn't just "like" a 1960s Batman plot, it literally IS a 1960s Batman plot. Season 2, Episode 17 "Hizzonner the Penguin"
That shot of Keaton's Bruce brooding and then turning towards the bat symbol was the hottest thing 15 year old me had ever seen. I still feel exactly the same today.
The reason the Penguin dies is that he filled the sewer water with toxic waste to kill the children in. So him rising out of the water just to die a minute later is him trying to kill Batman before his own poison does him in
Interestingly, if Burton’s third Batman film had taken off, he intended to prominently feature the Scarecrow as the villain. Mr. Freeze would’ve appeared as well, and the final battle against Keaton’s Batman and Marlon Wayons Robin would be on Scarecrow’s frozen farm, hence the project’s studio assigned title: Blue Harvest
I like the fact that Keaton was just sitting in the darkness, brooding, in his reintroduction. It shows us that he has no life outside of being Batman, its like he's hibernating when he's not in the suit, and he literally comes to life when the Batsignal lights up the room.
DeVito was absolutely stellar in this, as was Christopher Walken and Michelle Pfieffer. While not super accurate in terms of character, this feels like the most comic-booky Batman movie. It’s campy but also dark and brooding. And this is by far the best depiction of Gotham ever put to film
@@spaceghostcqc2137 haha yes! Gotham is as much a character as Batman himself, kinda like Metropolis was supposed to be but has always been a fairly muted image whereas I always thought it was supposed to be more advanced than a regular city
@@SceneWins 100%. This IS comic Gotham come to life. The snow also adds so much to the whole melancholic atmosphere. I don’t think Burtons Gotham will ever be outdone
"Bruce Wayne?!?! Why are you dressed as Batman" .. "He IS Batman, you moron" Is iconic and so quintessentially Batman . Up there with "Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it" for pure bangers from this film.
This movie felt so HUGE when it came out… it really was a force in the culture. It was dark and weird and interesting and kinda scary but thrilling, as a kid watching it in theaters
Before this comment section is flooded with refernces to Rodney, Blue Harvest or Big Ears Batman. May I just take the time to remind people of that one time James promised a Big Purple Laser for the Moonknight finale, which did not actually come to fruition. YOU LIED TO US JAMES! WE SHALL NEVER FORGET!
I always read Max Shreck asking "why are you dressed as Batman" as him being glib, because it leads into him saying "was Batman" after Catwoman corrects him.
Somehow as a 5 year old kid, my mom took me to the theaters to see this. I think it was the greatest movie ever, and to this day, it will always hold a special place in my heart. It was probably one of my first true cinematic experiences that wasn't a Disney film, and always seems larger than life anytime I put it on. As an adult, I really feel like the main story is around Selina Kyle essentially spiraling towards madness after essentially being bullied, and outright assaulted [*aka attempted murder] by her boss, and he desire for vengeance and to get even, no matter the cost. After watching it, I almost always feel sorry for Selina by the end, can empathize with the Penguin [for being abandoned by his parents], and have immense contempt for Max. Yeah, yeah... Bruce Wayne just sort of 'exists' in this film, but I forgive them for telling a different overall story.
Something I've always found interesting: Selina Kyle at one point says "It's gonna be a hot time in the old town tonight" to Bruce. Which is just weirdly specifically the same line that the Joker said when he was killing the mob boss with his joybuzzer in the first Tim Burton movie. Always wondered if it was a weird coincidence or a deliberate callback.
Michelle Pfeifer coming back to her apartment and wrecking the shiet out of it during her 15-minute-long brain-damaged meltdown is probably one of my favourite scenes ever put to film. Her acting is just so on point, she seems completely out of it and her body language is mesmerizing.
@@markives9257 she said it best in an interview I think…she was basically playing three different characters in one….meek, shy Selena…Selena reborn…and Catwoman and she made it look easy
I was a kid during this era of Batman. Batman 1989, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin --- I was the exact audience to just love these and not think they were weird or cheesy in any way. 👏
iWas 10 when batman & robin came out. even, then iWas like "the best thing about this movie is the logo" plus...."Get these butts & crotches out my face!"
@@LarrySwishamane Ive come around on B&R, it captures the madcap spirit of '66 batman better than Forever and I love Arnold and Uma chewing the scenery / corny shit like the bat credit card.
I have been having a miserable day at work and I was having lunch alone, and opening TH-cam app to this premiere?? The timing literally changed my life. Thank yewwww
The scene in this that stuck with me as a young 'un was Selina Kyle trashing her apartment in a fit of rage. I think I'd probably never seen that (an adult character throwing a childish temper tantrum and just breaking all their stuff) before in a movie and it felt weirdly transgressive (more than her dressing up in vacuum-sealed vinyl and whipping Batman on the bottom, the significance of that passed me by at the time).
So I didn’t know Paul Reubens played Penguin’s father in this, and I just realized he also portrayed the Penguin’s father in the Gotham TV show decades later. Wild how that goes sometimes
This is not only my favorite Batman movie but also one of my favorite movies period. I’m glad Tim Burton got the chance to make this weird freaky masterpiece.
Returns is absolutely fantastic. Better than 89, better than all the rest imo. I love the dialectic between Bruce and the villains - Catwoman represents Batman, Max Schreck represents Bruce the billionaire, and Penguin represents Bruce the orphan.
Still love this movie. As a kid I never realized how little screen time Batman/Bruce Wayne actually got, but he really puts in a full performance and the chemistry with Pfeiffer's Catwoman is amazing. Never realized the reason the Super Powers Penguin toy was recycled here was because of nervousness like the McDonalds thing, but that makes total sense.
The scene where Keaton's Batman blows up a strongman and grins sadistically while doing so still remains one of my favorite scenes in Batman movies. That along with the ''Things Change'' confrontation with the Penguin and the bat signal suit up scene.
haha yeah he totally killed that guy but people just accept it...I prefer a Batman that kills once in a while...just to let 'em know he could kill them all easily if he wanted to
And setting fire to that guy because he could, pure wicked evil. Maybe Batman is more of a villain than a hero. The penguin didn't start trouble with him. He fancies Selina. She's hardly a good girl. He's a vandal and he decides who's on the wrong side of the law. He's a psychopath.
@@markives9257I think that was Burton’s interpretation of the character, that only a lunatic would be a costumed crime fighter (a la Watchmen) and that’s the only logical way to adapt the source material. It’s a problematic way to adapt the source material and I get why it infuriates fans but it’s admittedly a very fascinating take
Now we know why Batman talks in has such a low and quite voice… because he has such big ears, so his hearing is very sensitive and stronger than most people lol This is not only the most underrated Batman movie, but it’s one of the most underrated superhero movies of all time… The performances, the atmosphere, the sets, the costumes, the soundtrack, it’s all just so well done.
This is my 3rd favorite Batman film of all time. That creepy camp aesthetic works so well for Gotham. Also Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman was my first girl crush.
Even as a kid, I was bothered by all the single-use stuff. I hated the Batmobile falling to pieces and that it didn't matter, and it *always* upset me to see him tear off the mask like that.
I love the Burton movies, and this one has a very special place for me - it's so Burton. The characters are so intriguing and engaging, in that gothic and abstract comic book sense. As you say, you'd never make this today... which is a shame. Even Burton wouldn't make this today, I feel. There was such a spirit of independent and creative ideas in films back then. It was a time for big concepts, rather than big set pieces. Also, to come up with so many iconic character visuals in the span of two movies... just incredible design work.
Burton is so boring today. I have a fondness for his Batman movies though they’re not his best work either (that I would attribute to Ed Wood, Beetlejuice, Sweeney Todd, Pee Wee’s Big Adventure and MAYBE Edward Scissorhands) but they’re so much cooler than his latest series of bad remakes
It's actually amazing that they got Danny DeVito in the film at all! He was attached to feature in Derek Jarman's 1993 film 'Blue' and had a pay-or-play contract, so Tim Burton had to convince Warner Bros. to pay an exorbitant amount of money so that DeVito could appear in the 1992 Batman Returns. This actually led to the working title of Batman Returns being 'Blue Harvest'!
Batman 89 is such a good comic series. I still think it should be adapted as an animated film complete with Keaton, Billy Dee Williams, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Marlon Wayans voicing their characters (or get some damn close soundalikes).
I'm surprised no one mentioned that the entire villain plot, making a giant battery on the power grid, was very evil in 1992, but it's now actually a solution to green energy in 2023. So Max Shrek is just ahead of his time.
Michelle Pfeiffer is my favorite Catwoman and that costume is brilliant. I love the unbridled weirdness of "Batman Returns." Thanks, guys, I enjoy your product.
Honestly I love that Danny's Penguin is just a fatter, grosser version of Frank from IASIP. Now I need IASIP to do an episode where the cast are Batman villains. Frank as Penguin, Dee as Catwoman, Dennis as Joker, etc. God that'd be perfect
Mason’s lines as Batman had me cracking up. Absolutely loved those! Also got a kick out of the editing at the end for the next video. Really looking forward to seeing your take on those films.
This was the first Batman movie I saw in full as a kid. Surprisingly there were only a few moments that scared me but I enjoyed it so much that I just covered my eyes for future viewings. These were the Penguin bitting that guys nose, Catwoman scratching up that muggers face, and Max Shrek’s chard corpse.
I was 7 when this movie came out and before it did, my favorite movies were Ghostbusters, Ninja Turtles, Tremors, Batman, Beetlejuice, and Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. And I had no idea who Tim Burton was. So I had no idea he directed 3 of my favorite movies or even had a concept of what a director actually was. I got to see this in the theaters and I was hyped from the McDonald’s marketing and the marketing around the movie. And when I saw it, I was blown away because it was full of the freaky stuff I loved in Beetlejuice and Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. And again, I had no idea who Tim Burton was because I was 7. So I only saw the connections on a subconscious level. I loved this movie so much as a kid. I still remember seeing Penguin bite that guy’s nose. This movie is probably the most vivid memory I have of going to a movie theater in my entire life. That Christmas was just full of Batman Returns toys. My parents even got me the Batmobile that had the breakaway sides to turn it into that missile mode. It was such a cool toy to have as a kid.
Glad to see Chip Shrek getting at least some mention. His “Dad, go, save yourself” is among my favorite line readings in all of cinema. And I see the thumbnails, but, really? Three “Dungeons & Dragons” movies?
17:07 Well that's not quite true. Because in the script that he was cast in, he never wore the suit, he was written to be a car mechanic helping Batman's Batmobile to locate where Penguin's device is. He was referred to as "The Kid" who loved reading Batman comics and idolized him, and wore coveralls with the letter R on the side. During the finale before Batman fights Penguin, he would show up again and hand him the device he found earlier and re-tweaked it to the denominator button to launch the missiles. Batman thanks him, asking his name and after he says "Call me Robin" he vanishes after Batman turns away, making him smile. He was taken out since he had no purpose in the story and was overcrowded. But in terms of wearing the Robin suit is pure buzzfeed article BS.
In addition to Max Shrek being the actor who played Nosferatu in the silent classic, Penguin’s look must have also been inspired by Don Cheney’s character from the lost “London After Midnight” movie of the same era.
3:53 It is very funny you say that, because in the 2021 anthology comic 'Gotham City Villains' there was an AU story in which the Penguin and Catwoman are a couple. And that story was written by Danny Devito.
John Fetterman showing up in two Aussies talking about Tim Burton's 1992 film Batman Returns was not something I had on my bingo card. Bloody legend he is, kicking that quack doctors butt.
Isn't Fetterman that mentally retarded guy in America the Demonrats are trying to say is a Senator or something? Lol...if you allow yourself to be led by a retard what does that make you?
One day this show pierced my ear drums through YT suggested autoplay and as I was about to change it, I decided to stay on. I am now done with every single Caravan of Garbage thanks for the entertainment lads
It's still strange to me that Burton picked two of the few Batman villains that aren't twisted freaks in the comics, basically everyone else is but Catwoman is just a burglar and Penguin is a short fat guy in a tux lol. I don't really like the weird stuff in this, to each their own I guess, but the best part in this movie for me is when Penguin and Batman are facing off, and Catwoman just backhand springs in-between them. They just kinda stare at her in disbelief, then she just says dryly, "Meow." EXPLOSION!! Good stuff.
Yeah I don't care what it's not faithful, but I was definitely one of the kids that saw it and was more confused than anything. For the record, this movie did come out before I was born and I just watched it on tv every now and then so maybe my opinion would change now.
I remember Penguin more than I do Batman 🤦🏽♂️😂 and that weird little scene where the pushchair/pram with baby Penguin in it just rolls down to the penguins? 😂🤣
13:27 This is actually quite interesting and it confirms something I thought while I was buying up all the Batman 2 toys. The Penguin toy does have a more "traditional" look. I liked it but I didn't realize it's like the SAME as the old toy??? It is the exact same????? That might make them more valuable? Hmmmmmm. Now what did I do with it? Lol
I was born in the mid 90's but I loved superheroes and we had this movie on VHS and my mother refused to let me watch it for years. I think Danny Devito really traumatized her that she wanted to shield me from all of the black vomit and nose biting 😂
I think James missed the point of the Bat-Signal scene. This version of Bruce Wayne is completely broken and aimless. He literally can't think of anything else to do but sit around and wait for an excuse to become Batman. It's absolutely a character choice, not an oversight.
I love these videos. I’m blown away by all of the on screen references to very specific American references for a channel made by two Australians and edited by a Canadian. Well done all.
As a kid, I never presumed Batman was murdering the henchmen. The style is cartoony enough that I figured, big dude could survive getting blown up, he'd get arrested and be covered in soot. Fire breather guy could have stop-drop-rolled in the snow and be fine, lol. I mean... we don't SEE them die. ;)
Good to see that this channel's thumbnail game extends to this video, about the greatest superhero movie of all time. Keaton's like 'Yep that's right' in this one.
I just rewatched the Burton movies and I gotta say, Returns is definitely my favorite of the two. I used to not be able to watch it because Danny's Penguin scared me too much lol
It's grown on me over the years. I still prefer the first one but I can appreciate what Burton was trying to do with Returns. It's definitely his film more than the first one was.
5:35 Noo definitelyyy had a guy come in 😂 but I do love the kills in this, I remember being a kid and thinking, he’s NOT holding back like a “superhero” would 😂
Batman Returns still remains my favorite Batman movie, the perfect blend of darkness and cartooness. Michelle Pferfifer will always be the best Catwoman.
As a kid I loved this movie, I watched it at least once a week for about a year. I tried watching it recently and couldn't stand this dumb POS movie. The only good thing about it is catwoman
I like Penguin coming back for a second before really dying. Joker, Shreck, the muscle guy who gets strapped to a bomb and chucked down a random shaft; all genuinely bad guys so they die quickly. Penguin? Tragic villain. Ultimately loses to his misguided rage. We see him one last time, not as a bad guy, but a lost soul. He is honored in death by the penguins who came to claim him as one of their own. Sad music overlays the scene.
I think it’s kinda fucked up that with this movie, no one had issue with making the cat woman suit so impractical and ridiculous that it had to be single use. So they made dozens and dozens of them and presumably just threw them away at the end of the day. But in Batman and robin, Alicia silverstone gained a few pounds and couldn’t fit into her suit anymore, so instead of making her a new one or adjusting the one she had and just continuing on like normal. The media instead decided to body shame her and basically say she’s not attractive anymore cause she’s “fat”. So I guess the lesson is, it doesn’t matter how much money you piss away or how inefficiently you do things, as long as you’re skinny and hot then no one will complain. Smh
I love the Burton Batman films. I did as a kid (definitely watched both of these under 10 y/o) and still do. Now I like to think there wasn't another Batman film until 2005.
I actually love Michael Keaton just sitting in the room doing nothing until the “Bat-Light” shines over him. It says a lot about Bruce Wayne that he literally just has no interest in doing anything other than wait to be Batman again
Yep, that’s how I always saw it too 👍
Me too. And I think that actually was Burton's point with this scene.
I might be wrong but I feel like in the 2003 cartoon, when Joker spends an episode being the Batman, he gives off a satirized version of that scene where he's still Joker but he's dressed as Michael Keaton and just takes his glasses off and is like 'this is a job for the Bat-Man!'
Random but it just has such goofy energy I love it
Yes if only they had come up with a more discreet way of the signal shining Into his room other than Wayne manor having like 3 different bat signals on the roof. Lol people might notice that
@@emuman09 "Don't worry! It's just a sex thing!"
The fact that Bruce Wayne was basically existing in stasis like an NPC until the bat-symbol appeared and he could go be Batman is perfect characterization IMO
They should have showed him training or something. Bruce wouldn't waste time like this.
@@CyborgSodaCollects 🥱
@@CyborgSodaCollects “he should be twaining!!”
@@colebresnehen38 why is this worthy of mocking
@@blue-vr8dd idk I just thought it was funny no harm intended
Alfred is the real hero of these movies. Finding time to make soup for Batman after building break-away batmobiles, and one use batarangs, and bat-dojos. You just know hes collecting all that junk off the streets on his way to the shops. I bet Batman yelled at him, saying "they're one use only! Now make me another fruit-rollup batsuit. This one's torn."
I like the implication that there’s no proper way to take off his batsuit and he has to tear his way out of it every time
Alfred walking around Gotham with that silver tray, collecting all the abandoned Bat-gear.
Wouldn't take him long cause its a cold dish.
Took the world's greatest detective a while to catch on to that
That's the reason I hated The Batman with RobBat Batenbat. Dude was a total dick to Alfred and to pretty much everyone. Also he was an idiot who needed one villain to teach him the biggest crime boss in Gotham was a bad guy...
@@sidneysometimes2520 now we know why he was always so grumpy.
I think the funniest trivia about this Batman was how his suit was so rigid he couldn't really turn his neck so EVERY turn was this super rigid, stoic and DRAMATIC full body turn. It suits the campiness of this movieand dread of this Batman so well.
It's crazy how one arbitrary aspect of the costume has influenced every Batman performance since.
And that led to the films working title being Blue Harvest
That’s kind of false. He could turn his head, but it would make a loud suction sound.
They've never shut up about this since. Every new costume supposedly solves this issue.
What's crazy is that it took almost 20 years to fix this in the dark knight when he gets a new suit
Chris Pratt auditioning for Catwoman? GENIUS. Ben & Laurence have done it again!
Ten year old Chris Pratt might have been too controversial?
He's so cool
Oh, don’t you mean Crisp Rat?
@@funkrobot9762 oh maaan
Chris Pratt as Catwoman in The Brave & The Bold (2025).
In fact, Penguin running for Mayor isn't just "like" a 1960s Batman plot, it literally IS a 1960s Batman plot. Season 2, Episode 17 "Hizzonner the Penguin"
Yeah except the original was clever and funny
That shot of Keaton's Bruce brooding and then turning towards the bat symbol was the hottest thing 15 year old me had ever seen. I still feel exactly the same today.
The reason the Penguin dies is that he filled the sewer water with toxic waste to kill the children in. So him rising out of the water just to die a minute later is him trying to kill Batman before his own poison does him in
If there's anything we all can agree on, it's that Keaton didn't LET'S GET NUTS enough in this one.
He puts a stick of dynamite down a guy’s pants, thereby getting his nuts.
Lol
If they shoehorn that into The Flash somehow..
@Lrrr Of the Planet Omicron Persei 8 they 100% will and it will be awful
@@hendrikwohlgemuth5223 I know...
The best way to describe this movie is "cartoony stuff juxtaposed with what is clearly the director's fetish."
Danny Devito puking bile? Mmm~ 😩
Does the Big Ear Batman hear the guy who yells Rodney, better than the rest of us?
"Who's out there calling me Rodney? I'm Big Ears Batman!"
He’s big ears Batman, he hears everything
That’s the only reason he created the big ears in the first place
Big ears batman heats everything better than anyone or anything in the universe. Because he's Big Ears Batman
I'll tell you who doesn't hear The Guy Who Yells Rodney. Rodney. Cause he's probably dead or something.
This movie had such an impact on me as a kid. I LOVE the dark tone, the aesthetic and the characterisation of the villains.
I find it to be too goofy
Interestingly, if Burton’s third Batman film had taken off, he intended to prominently feature the Scarecrow as the villain. Mr. Freeze would’ve appeared as well, and the final battle against Keaton’s Batman and Marlon Wayons Robin would be on Scarecrow’s frozen farm, hence the project’s studio assigned title: Blue Harvest
I like the fact that Keaton was just sitting in the darkness, brooding, in his reintroduction. It shows us that he has no life outside of being Batman, its like he's hibernating when he's not in the suit, and he literally comes to life when the Batsignal lights up the room.
The actor who played Shrek’s son did one of the best Christopher Walken impressions I’ve seen on film.
DeVito was absolutely stellar in this, as was Christopher Walken and Michelle Pfieffer. While not super accurate in terms of character, this feels like the most comic-booky Batman movie. It’s campy but also dark and brooding. And this is by far the best depiction of Gotham ever put to film
For real. I'd rather watch this gothic Gotham than Chicago with an amber filter.
@@spaceghostcqc2137 haha yes! Gotham is as much a character as Batman himself, kinda like Metropolis was supposed to be but has always been a fairly muted image whereas I always thought it was supposed to be more advanced than a regular city
Agreed!!! Although I gotta say.. Gotham feels rather.. small? in this movie, but the aesthetic is superb.
This movie is the graphic novel of Batman movies, don’t @ me.
@@SceneWins 100%. This IS comic Gotham come to life. The snow also adds so much to the whole melancholic atmosphere. I don’t think Burtons Gotham will ever be outdone
The kid reading his lines should be the new Rodney. "I was very violent. It was a total attack against kids" lmao
"I came here for a fun time and I'm honestly feeling so attacked right now."
I hope that kid got wedgied sooo hard.
"Bruce Wayne?!?! Why are you dressed as Batman"
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"He IS Batman, you moron"
Is iconic and so quintessentially Batman . Up there with "Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it" for pure bangers from this film.
This movie felt so HUGE when it came out… it really was a force in the culture. It was dark and weird and interesting and kinda scary but thrilling, as a kid watching it in theaters
Do u still feel the same way? I think I’d rate the movie a 9/10 I just wanted more fight scenes tbh. And no killing
@@moonknight4053 I gotta rewatch it honestly. Haven't done a full watch through in some 25+ years.
Before this comment section is flooded with refernces to Rodney, Blue Harvest or Big Ears Batman.
May I just take the time to remind people of that one time James promised a Big Purple Laser for the Moonknight finale, which did not actually come to fruition.
YOU LIED TO US JAMES! WE SHALL NEVER FORGET!
I always read Max Shreck asking "why are you dressed as Batman" as him being glib, because it leads into him saying "was Batman" after Catwoman corrects him.
Somehow as a 5 year old kid, my mom took me to the theaters to see this. I think it was the greatest movie ever, and to this day, it will always hold a special place in my heart. It was probably one of my first true cinematic experiences that wasn't a Disney film, and always seems larger than life anytime I put it on. As an adult, I really feel like the main story is around Selina Kyle essentially spiraling towards madness after essentially being bullied, and outright assaulted [*aka attempted murder] by her boss, and he desire for vengeance and to get even, no matter the cost. After watching it, I almost always feel sorry for Selina by the end, can empathize with the Penguin [for being abandoned by his parents], and have immense contempt for Max. Yeah, yeah... Bruce Wayne just sort of 'exists' in this film, but I forgive them for telling a different overall story.
16:10 the plot of Penguin running for mayor was in the comics and was used in an episode of Batman66 as well as Returns.
As a kid, seeing Selina Kyle open her eyes when all the cats go over her was one of the most terrifying things I'd seen as a 9 year old.
Something I've always found interesting: Selina Kyle at one point says "It's gonna be a hot time in the old town tonight" to Bruce. Which is just weirdly specifically the same line that the Joker said when he was killing the mob boss with his joybuzzer in the first Tim Burton movie. Always wondered if it was a weird coincidence or a deliberate callback.
Riddler was scripted to say that line as well followed by “Someone used always say that.”
Michelle Pfeifer coming back to her apartment and wrecking the shiet out of it during her 15-minute-long brain-damaged meltdown is probably one of my favourite scenes ever put to film.
Her acting is just so on point, she seems completely out of it and her body language is mesmerizing.
I love how the straw that broke the camel's back was the answeeing machine message about the perfume that will make your boss like you better lol
The part where she shoves her stuffed animals into the garbage disposal traumatized me as a child
All of her scenes rock. Best character in the film without a doubt
@@markives9257 she said it best in an interview I think…she was basically playing three different characters in one….meek, shy Selena…Selena reborn…and Catwoman and she made it look easy
I was a kid during this era of Batman. Batman 1989, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin --- I was the exact audience to just love these and not think they were weird or cheesy in any way. 👏
iWas 10 when batman & robin came out. even, then iWas like
"the best thing about this movie is the logo"
plus...."Get these butts & crotches out my face!"
@@LarrySwishamane Ive come around on B&R, it captures the madcap spirit of '66 batman better than Forever and I love Arnold and Uma chewing the scenery / corny shit like the bat credit card.
Back then we only had a handful of live action superhero movies so appreciated them. People are spoilt now.
Batman Forever is underrated as hell imo, but Batman & Robin is irredeemable schlock.
Same here Ruthiel. This was probably what sparked my love for Superheroes
I have been having a miserable day at work and I was having lunch alone, and opening TH-cam app to this premiere?? The timing literally changed my life. Thank yewwww
The scene in this that stuck with me as a young 'un was Selina Kyle trashing her apartment in a fit of rage. I think I'd probably never seen that (an adult character throwing a childish temper tantrum and just breaking all their stuff) before in a movie and it felt weirdly transgressive (more than her dressing up in vacuum-sealed vinyl and whipping Batman on the bottom, the significance of that passed me by at the time).
So I didn’t know Paul Reubens played Penguin’s father in this, and I just realized he also portrayed the Penguin’s father in the Gotham TV show decades later. Wild how that goes sometimes
What's also cool is Penguin's mother is played by the same actress that starred in Pee Wees Big Adventure, also directed by Burton.
This is not only my favorite Batman movie but also one of my favorite movies period. I’m glad Tim Burton got the chance to make this weird freaky masterpiece.
Returns is absolutely fantastic. Better than 89, better than all the rest imo. I love the dialectic between Bruce and the villains - Catwoman represents Batman, Max Schreck represents Bruce the billionaire, and Penguin represents Bruce the orphan.
New subscriber to your channel- I’ve never laughed this much in my life. Your banter is perfect!!
Yeah, they're great. I joined around 3-4 months ago. Thinking about going for the BigSandwich subscription.
@@joeblankenship377 it's really worth it. There's so much more content.
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Blue Monkey? Reminds of the working title of all those films
@@beetboi3969 I heard the working title of the Blue Beetle movie is Return of the Harvest.
It's so great that Billy Dee William got to reprise his role in a comic book. Must pay well too, since comic books have infinite budgets.
They probably drew him so much money.
Still love this movie. As a kid I never realized how little screen time Batman/Bruce Wayne actually got, but he really puts in a full performance and the chemistry with Pfeiffer's Catwoman is amazing. Never realized the reason the Super Powers Penguin toy was recycled here was because of nervousness like the McDonalds thing, but that makes total sense.
The scene where Keaton's Batman blows up a strongman and grins sadistically while doing so still remains one of my favorite scenes in Batman movies. That along with the ''Things Change'' confrontation with the Penguin and the bat signal suit up scene.
haha yeah he totally killed that guy but people just accept it...I prefer a Batman that kills once in a while...just to let 'em know he could kill them all easily if he wanted to
And setting fire to that guy because he could, pure wicked evil.
Maybe Batman is more of a villain than a hero. The penguin didn't start trouble with him. He fancies Selina. She's hardly a good girl. He's a vandal and he decides who's on the wrong side of the law. He's a psychopath.
@@markives9257I think that was Burton’s interpretation of the character, that only a lunatic would be a costumed crime fighter (a la Watchmen) and that’s the only logical way to adapt the source material. It’s a problematic way to adapt the source material and I get why it infuriates fans but it’s admittedly a very fascinating take
Now we know why Batman talks in has such a low and quite voice… because he has such big ears, so his hearing is very sensitive and stronger than most people lol
This is not only the most underrated Batman movie, but it’s one of the most underrated superhero movies of all time… The performances, the atmosphere, the sets, the costumes, the soundtrack, it’s all just so well done.
This is my 3rd favorite Batman film of all time. That creepy camp aesthetic works so well for Gotham. Also Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman was my first girl crush.
DeVito Penguin is one of the best characters committed to film.
I think Chris Pratt would've made an awesome Penguin.
This movie should have won Best Picture for DeVito's Penguin alone
You're crazy! The Penguin is supposed to be a mob boss not a mutant from TMNT.
Dude had zero fear of batman
19:32 rare cameo of James’s brother (the one Mason likes) and James’s brother (the one Mason doesn’t like)
this entire movie was basically an audition reel for the role of Frank Reynolds
You didn’t even get into the Penguin’s plot to kidnap and kill the first-born sons of Gotham! Still, best video ever.
Even as a kid, I was bothered by all the single-use stuff. I hated the Batmobile falling to pieces and that it didn't matter, and it *always* upset me to see him tear off the mask like that.
I love the Burton movies, and this one has a very special place for me - it's so Burton. The characters are so intriguing and engaging, in that gothic and abstract comic book sense. As you say, you'd never make this today... which is a shame. Even Burton wouldn't make this today, I feel. There was such a spirit of independent and creative ideas in films back then. It was a time for big concepts, rather than big set pieces. Also, to come up with so many iconic character visuals in the span of two movies... just incredible design work.
_Even Burton wouldn't make this today, I feel._
No freaky Johnny Depp role, for one.
Burton is so boring today. I have a fondness for his Batman movies though they’re not his best work either (that I would attribute to Ed Wood, Beetlejuice, Sweeney Todd, Pee Wee’s Big Adventure and MAYBE Edward Scissorhands) but they’re so much cooler than his latest series of bad remakes
The biggest twist of this movie is when Batman is revealed to be Bruce Wayne.
Funny enough, the Penguin scenes in these movies are some of my first movie memories too.
It's actually amazing that they got Danny DeVito in the film at all! He was attached to feature in Derek Jarman's 1993 film 'Blue' and had a pay-or-play contract, so Tim Burton had to convince Warner Bros. to pay an exorbitant amount of money so that DeVito could appear in the 1992 Batman Returns. This actually led to the working title of Batman Returns being 'Blue Harvest'!
@@reubenfong1961 You son of a bitch
The cemetery music as he finds his familys graves is one of mine, 7yr old me had no understanding of the movie yet.
@@reubenfong1961 Nicely done!
At first I hated the guy that yelled Rodney, I was used to only green trivia, but now I catch myself chuckling and mouthing Rodney with the man 🤣🤣
Batman 89 is such a good comic series. I still think it should be adapted as an animated film complete with Keaton, Billy Dee Williams, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Marlon Wayans voicing their characters (or get some damn close soundalikes).
the original Animated Batman series was basically done in the Burton style, they nailed it imo
I'm surprised no one mentioned that the entire villain plot, making a giant battery on the power grid, was very evil in 1992, but it's now actually a solution to green energy in 2023. So Max Shrek is just ahead of his time.
19:31 the brother Mason likes, the brother he doesn't like, and Ya Boi Dickface all in one picture. Wow, what a time to be alive.
Michelle Pfeiffer is my favorite Catwoman and that costume is brilliant. I love the unbridled weirdness of "Batman Returns." Thanks, guys, I enjoy your product.
I love how the penguin in this is basically just the ratcatcher.
Ben & Laurence absolutely being awesome in those final moments
Honestly I love that Danny's Penguin is just a fatter, grosser version of Frank from IASIP. Now I need IASIP to do an episode where the cast are Batman villains. Frank as Penguin, Dee as Catwoman, Dennis as Joker, etc. God that'd be perfect
Or the fact that the acrobat who somersaults with the baby is Gregory Scott Cummins, who plays Mac's dad on the show.
Frank being Penguin is too on the noise. Cat woman maybe.
@@WhamBang And Dee’s the Penguin instead because y’know, bird
Mason’s lines as Batman had me cracking up. Absolutely loved those!
Also got a kick out of the editing at the end for the next video. Really looking forward to seeing your take on those films.
This was the first Batman movie I saw in full as a kid. Surprisingly there were only a few moments that scared me but I enjoyed it so much that I just covered my eyes for future viewings. These were the Penguin bitting that guys nose, Catwoman scratching up that muggers face, and Max Shrek’s chard corpse.
"Batman doesn't even appear in his costume for the first 15 minutes of the movie."
Wait until they hear about The Dark Knight Rises.
I love that Billy D Williams is back as two face , hope we see a cameo of him in Flashpoint
I was 7 when this movie came out and before it did, my favorite movies were Ghostbusters, Ninja Turtles, Tremors, Batman, Beetlejuice, and Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. And I had no idea who Tim Burton was. So I had no idea he directed 3 of my favorite movies or even had a concept of what a director actually was.
I got to see this in the theaters and I was hyped from the McDonald’s marketing and the marketing around the movie. And when I saw it, I was blown away because it was full of the freaky stuff I loved in Beetlejuice and Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. And again, I had no idea who Tim Burton was because I was 7. So I only saw the connections on a subconscious level. I loved this movie so much as a kid. I still remember seeing Penguin bite that guy’s nose. This movie is probably the most vivid memory I have of going to a movie theater in my entire life.
That Christmas was just full of Batman Returns toys. My parents even got me the Batmobile that had the breakaway sides to turn it into that missile mode. It was such a cool toy to have as a kid.
There’s nothing better than waking up in the morning, and seeing that these boys have dropped another video, that has made my day
I love that the people of Gotham see this fucked up penguin man from the sewers and go “We should make that guy the mayor!”
Glad to see Chip Shrek getting at least some mention. His “Dad, go, save yourself” is among my favorite line readings in all of cinema.
And I see the thumbnails, but, really? Three “Dungeons & Dragons” movies?
17:07 Well that's not quite true. Because in the script that he was cast in, he never wore the suit, he was written to be a car mechanic helping Batman's Batmobile to locate where Penguin's device is. He was referred to as "The Kid" who loved reading Batman comics and idolized him, and wore coveralls with the letter R on the side. During the finale before Batman fights Penguin, he would show up again and hand him the device he found earlier and re-tweaked it to the denominator button to launch the missiles. Batman thanks him, asking his name and after he says "Call me Robin" he vanishes after Batman turns away, making him smile. He was taken out since he had no purpose in the story and was overcrowded. But in terms of wearing the Robin suit is pure buzzfeed article BS.
"Give me your wallet."
-Bob Kane, 2023.
Can't believe I never came across this classic quote until seeing this video.
4:40 Bat symbol? I'll do you one better, what about the Bat signal? That's MINE now.
In addition to Max Shrek being the actor who played Nosferatu in the silent classic, Penguin’s look must have also been inspired by Don Cheney’s character from
the lost “London After Midnight” movie of the same era.
Not only my favorite Batman movie, it's the best Batman movie.
3:53 It is very funny you say that, because in the 2021 anthology comic 'Gotham City Villains' there was an AU story in which the Penguin and Catwoman are a couple.
And that story was written by Danny Devito.
John Fetterman showing up in two Aussies talking about Tim Burton's 1992 film Batman Returns was not something I had on my bingo card. Bloody legend he is, kicking that quack doctors butt.
Isn't Fetterman that mentally retarded guy in America the Demonrats are trying to say is a Senator or something? Lol...if you allow yourself to be led by a retard what does that make you?
I had the same thought haha
Just had an "Ayyye that's my guy!" moment
As a fellow Pennsylvanian, this joke slaps harder than johns stroke. 🎉
One day this show pierced my ear drums through YT suggested autoplay and as I was about to change it, I decided to stay on. I am now done with every single Caravan of Garbage thanks for the entertainment lads
It's still strange to me that Burton picked two of the few Batman villains that aren't twisted freaks in the comics, basically everyone else is but Catwoman is just a burglar and Penguin is a short fat guy in a tux lol.
I don't really like the weird stuff in this, to each their own I guess, but the best part in this movie for me is when Penguin and Batman are facing off, and Catwoman just backhand springs in-between them. They just kinda stare at her in disbelief, then she just says dryly, "Meow." EXPLOSION!! Good stuff.
s/o to max shreck. formidable villain
Yeah I don't care what it's not faithful, but I was definitely one of the kids that saw it and was more confused than anything. For the record, this movie did come out before I was born and I just watched it on tv every now and then so maybe my opinion would change now.
I remember Penguin more than I do Batman 🤦🏽♂️😂 and that weird little scene where the pushchair/pram with baby Penguin in it just rolls down to the penguins? 😂🤣
I love it when big name movie stars leave likes on such humble TH-cam shows, it’s so classy
There literally IS an episode of Batman ‘66 where Penguin runs for mayor and Batman has to run against him.
I honestly consider this one of my favourite Batman movies.
Me too! It's definitely Tim Burton at his weirdest but I love how unique this is from all the other Batman films.
13:27 This is actually quite interesting and it confirms something I thought while I was buying up all the Batman 2 toys. The Penguin toy does have a more "traditional" look. I liked it but I didn't realize it's like the SAME as the old toy??? It is the exact same????? That might make them more valuable? Hmmmmmm. Now what did I do with it? Lol
I was born in the mid 90's but I loved superheroes and we had this movie on VHS and my mother refused to let me watch it for years. I think Danny Devito really traumatized her that she wanted to shield me from all of the black vomit and nose biting 😂
I think James missed the point of the Bat-Signal scene. This version of Bruce Wayne is completely broken and aimless. He literally can't think of anything else to do but sit around and wait for an excuse to become Batman. It's absolutely a character choice, not an oversight.
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STILL the best editing on TH-cam. Boggles the mind!
I love these videos. I’m blown away by all of the on screen references to very specific American references for a channel made by two Australians and edited by a Canadian.
Well done all.
The Chris Pratt part 😂
As a kid, I never presumed Batman was murdering the henchmen. The style is cartoony enough that I figured, big dude could survive getting blown up, he'd get arrested and be covered in soot. Fire breather guy could have stop-drop-rolled in the snow and be fine, lol. I mean... we don't SEE them die. ;)
“He did a reverse chumbawumba” I love Mason
Good to see that this channel's thumbnail game extends to this video, about the greatest superhero movie of all time. Keaton's like 'Yep that's right' in this one.
I just rewatched the Burton movies and I gotta say, Returns is definitely my favorite of the two. I used to not be able to watch it because Danny's Penguin scared me too much lol
It's grown on me over the years. I still prefer the first one but I can appreciate what Burton was trying to do with Returns. It's definitely his film more than the first one was.
Michelle Pfeiffer’s Catwoman is one of the greatest movie performances of all time. She’s incredible
5:35 Noo definitelyyy had a guy come in 😂 but I do love the kills in this, I remember being a kid and thinking, he’s NOT holding back like a “superhero” would 😂
Batman Returns still remains my favorite Batman movie, the perfect blend of darkness and cartooness. Michelle Pferfifer will always be the best Catwoman.
I have waited 4 years for this. Constantly watching the first Batman video thinking that a Batman returns was made.
As a kid I loved this movie, I watched it at least once a week for about a year. I tried watching it recently and couldn't stand this dumb POS movie. The only good thing about it is catwoman
I hate myself for laughing at “no catwoman don’t whip me on the bottom” 🤣
I like Penguin coming back for a second before really dying. Joker, Shreck, the muscle guy who gets strapped to a bomb and chucked down a random shaft; all genuinely bad guys so they die quickly. Penguin? Tragic villain. Ultimately loses to his misguided rage. We see him one last time, not as a bad guy, but a lost soul. He is honored in death by the penguins who came to claim him as one of their own. Sad music overlays the scene.
I love the evolution of the trivia section to always being "Green Trivia... plus that montage of the guy yelling RODNEY!"
This is still my favorite Batman movie, Tim Burton’s aesthetic just fits so well with Gotham
This is the definitive Batman film to this day. It’s everything a Batman movie should be.
It’s my favourite Christmas film
Egghead origin deserves a comment. You earned it by going above and beyond with the deep cut. Well done, well done.
Thank you for keeping Rodney, it’s truly the highlight of my week
I think it’s kinda fucked up that with this movie, no one had issue with making the cat woman suit so impractical and ridiculous that it had to be single use. So they made dozens and dozens of them and presumably just threw them away at the end of the day.
But in Batman and robin, Alicia silverstone gained a few pounds and couldn’t fit into her suit anymore, so instead of making her a new one or adjusting the one she had and just continuing on like normal. The media instead decided to body shame her and basically say she’s not attractive anymore cause she’s “fat”.
So I guess the lesson is, it doesn’t matter how much money you piss away or how inefficiently you do things, as long as you’re skinny and hot then no one will complain. Smh
I love the Burton Batman films. I did as a kid (definitely watched both of these under 10 y/o) and still do. Now I like to think there wasn't another Batman film until 2005.