UNIX before Linux (1982)

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  • @guatagel2454
    @guatagel2454 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

    It's 2024 and this video is still useful and entertaining.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Should be shown in schools!

    • @esraeloh8681
      @esraeloh8681 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funny, I thought it was painful & cringy while useful

    • @moldovanmoldovan7593
      @moldovanmoldovan7593 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if those windows of the top floor, shown in the beginning, still shine at night. I would do it sometimes in the memory of K&R

    • @youtubeaccount931
      @youtubeaccount931 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@esraeloh8681 i'll take that aesthetic over what we have today

    • @lanchanoinguyen2914
      @lanchanoinguyen2914 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nothing new in computer science history but yeah,it's still a reminder to newbies script kiddies that how great those programmers really were.

  • @bvds2007
    @bvds2007 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The best intro to Unix I’ve ever come across. The fact this is presented in its historical context makes it so much better.

  • @JohnnySacc
    @JohnnySacc หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I pass this building everyday and had no idea unix was created there. What a legendary place

    • @combinedstudy6427
      @combinedstudy6427 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are talking about Murray Hill, New Jersey, Bell Laboratory? Right Brother?.

  • @AlexanderDeWolf-v7q
    @AlexanderDeWolf-v7q หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    Pipes one of the most useful concepts from Unix. I started with BSD 4.2 in 1983.

    • @8BitRetroJournal
      @8BitRetroJournal หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really? Pipes were only introduced to UNIX in 1983? Other operating systems had them built-in around that time. The Sinclair QL's QDOS, which was developed in 1983 and released on January 12, 1984, had pipes built into its kernel and that was a small microkernel OS. I would have thought pipes were integral way before that, so that's quite surprising.

    • @BigSneakyDuck
      @BigSneakyDuck หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@8BitRetroJournal Pipes were introduced to UNIX back in 1973, he's just saying his introduction to UNIX was via the Berkeley Software Distribution, which helped popularise UNIX outside AT&T and evolved into the FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD operating systems (among others!) today. Fun fact: the BSD daemon logo commonly known as "Beastie" originates in a cartoon drawn by Phil Foglio in 1976 of daemons clambering over pipework plumbed up around a PDP-11, with a tap from the pipes dripping into a bucket labelled "NULL". The Dartmouth Time-Sharing System had a similar concept called "communication files" back in the 1960s.

    • @mrj505
      @mrj505 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@8BitRetroJournal He said "I started", not "it started". He was talking about when he started using BSD, not when Unix got pipes

    • @8BitRetroJournal
      @8BitRetroJournal หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrj505 Oh, my bad. Thanks for the clarification. I read the "I" as "It" accidentally and it didn't make much sense. It was neat seeing the demo the one gent gave and he wasn't using pipes just routing, so I wonder when the | operator was introduced.

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ah, BSD. I ported the BSD TCP/IP stack from Big Endian to Little Endian.

  • @alexsheepherd
    @alexsheepherd หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Intro music is "New Dawn" by Francis Monkman if anyone is interested

  • @g.carbonell8219
    @g.carbonell8219 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    These guys paved the path for all the personal computing that came later, including Apple. Dennis passed away along with Steve Jobs; sadly, society had its memorial for the pupil and not for the mentor. Without UNIX/C, no Apple would have ever existed.

  • @mendodsoregonbackroads6632
    @mendodsoregonbackroads6632 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I like how they “Piped” all the different people in different departments together to explain how the system works, and to tell the story.

  • @lenkapenka6976
    @lenkapenka6976 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    This priceless material !!!! Thanks for uploading....

  • @AjithKp560
    @AjithKp560 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This is a legendary video, because the legends of Bell Labs - Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson and Brian Kernighan featuring in this video... Again, everyone featuring in this video are legends... But, these three are my favorites...

  • @garydunken7934
    @garydunken7934 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This video is gold. Thanks for sharing.

  • @UKbrownSkinBoy
    @UKbrownSkinBoy หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    "Unix.. is not likely to be in the dictionary, ever".
    Ah, bro you're too modest.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🤣

    • @nineironshore
      @nineironshore หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its not in merriam webster 😞

    • @StEvUgnIn
      @StEvUgnIn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At least, it's found in Jurassic Park and Tron as a reference.

    • @prestonferry
      @prestonferry 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@StEvUgnInwhen you say in TRON as a reference, was it the name or the UNIX-Like OS that was called SolarOS or the actual name UNIX?

    • @StEvUgnIn
      @StEvUgnIn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@prestonferry Solaris and BSD both belong to the family of UNIX systems. GNU and Minix are just inspired by the architecture of UNIX.

  • @JonahDOrsky
    @JonahDOrsky หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Wow. I bought the C book written by Dennis Ritchie and Kernighan and never knew who Kernighan was until now. What an absolute legend. These guys literally paved the way for the future. It's wild watching this video and seeing how far things have come but the concepts he mentions are very interesting. He says "make little programs that can be combined to create a very complex program." basically the concept of functions in Python I guess but as im teaching myself c right now I think i really needed to hear that

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It’s amazing how much of it is still relevant!

    • @ZighyBlue
      @ZighyBlue หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's more similar to npm node modules in nodejs than functions in python....

    • @Minolrx
      @Minolrx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same idea as microservises that has everybody crazy.

    • @drooplug
      @drooplug หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's really more about shell scripts.

    • @midlandscoder
      @midlandscoder หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      most software is or should be made of small programs

  • @denisnasyrtdinov6796
    @denisnasyrtdinov6796 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Such clear minds and reasoning: even after UNIX have become commercial, it kept the genes of its academic roots and great initial principles that are still with us: be simple and focus on single purpose.

    • @ristokolttonen9208
      @ristokolttonen9208 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Linux now is incredibly bloated and does billions of things. I still use it.

    • @prestonferry
      @prestonferry 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ristokolttonen9208 what? Linux or UNIX?
      How do you even use a pure form of UNIX today?

  • @Guneenya
    @Guneenya 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    My grandmother is in this video! Sadly, in 1999 her body was discovered in the branches of an apple tree. Still, this brings back great memories.

    • @Remigrator
      @Remigrator 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      What do you mean "discovered in the branches of an apple tree"? I have questions.

    • @jimbotron70
      @jimbotron70 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Remigrator Hanging, I suppose...

    • @perguto
      @perguto 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you mean the woman at 11:20?

  • @bcspm1bcspm158
    @bcspm1bcspm158 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The text-to-speech part was a surprise to me.

    • @bigp3t3_cpt
      @bigp3t3_cpt หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      16:20 that sip of coffee

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Around 1983 or so my family got a TI-99-4a. A friend of Dad's also had one with the speech synthesizer attachment. It would play the video game Parsec which would say "Great Shot, Pilot!" (more like great scott, pilot!) after surviving another round. I think I read somewhere that it used the same chip as a "Speak n Spell".

    • @brandonspears2028
      @brandonspears2028 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bigp3t3_cpt This is the part where I paused and had to look at the comments. 😂

    • @em7dim9
      @em7dim9 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean, we had text-to-speech programs on the C64, and that was in 1982 as well. You could make it say anything you want.

  • @tsankotsankov760
    @tsankotsankov760 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing CS history lesson. So interesting to see how much the things have changed, and how much the things are actually pretty much the same.

  • @PanchoPU88
    @PanchoPU88 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We are just standing on the shoulders of these giants. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @rohitisnow3490
    @rohitisnow3490 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautiful video ! We have come far and for anyone to understand how this all started, this is a great video

  • @AMindInOverdrive
    @AMindInOverdrive 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did computer programming in college back in 1993-96 - We used Vax terminals with unix on them. The college had Windows PC also but most of our programming was done on the Vax

  • @joebonansinga1284
    @joebonansinga1284 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Lorinda Cherry sipping coffee while the system 'spoke' that long number is comedy gold. LOL.
    RIP Maam.

    • @joeldick6871
      @joeldick6871 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Came here to say that

  • @potato9832
    @potato9832 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Peak bearded UNIX. What's wild today is those cabinet sized hard drives were high technology at the time of filming.

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Post-hippy, but they started their own subculture.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    It's kind of awesome seeing the progenitors of so much of the software I use on a daily basis at such a young age. I think Kernighan may be revealing a bit of the psychology that separates *nix users from Win/DOS users too, in that his goto for analyzing the words in a sentence was to lowercase everything. If you've read any of the example code that Microsoft has ever provided, you might notice that their goto is often to uppercase words. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but it's just a weird quirk I've noticed over the years.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      good catch

    • @thewatcher5271
      @thewatcher5271 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, How Many Times Have I Typed, dir/a/l/ogn/p Lowercase Is Easier To Read. Thank You. (Like #6 - Reply #2)

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's because Unix is generally case sensitive, and DOS/Windows is generally not. We tend not to use capital letters in Unix because then you have to also remember what is caps and what is not. Just make it all lowercase and you don't have to remember. In Windows, it doesn't matter.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stargazer7644 Partially true, but wouldn't explain why a majority of Microsoft programmers like to uppercase strings to perform comparisons. And we've got upper and lower casing available to us on both platforms via C's standard library.

    • @intrepidis1
      @intrepidis1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe it's because a lower case "L" can look like the number "1" in some fonts, and other such things?

  • @Appalling68
    @Appalling68 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Just wow! I am SO HAPPY this video came across my feed!!

  • @d.g.567
    @d.g.567 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What were applications back then are literally just functions today, and functions are being used today to built tomorrow’s applications. What a journey so far

  • @jonarmani8654
    @jonarmani8654 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's so crazy that computers as slow and limited as those things were still capable of doing that full AI render of Jodie Foster toward the end

  • @stevenray8737
    @stevenray8737 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Learning C, back in 2000, dramatically changed my life. Its all thanks to these pioneers at Bell Labs. Thanks for sharing!

    • @JosephEdicoes
      @JosephEdicoes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were some particularly book(s) did you use back then?

    • @stevenray8737
      @stevenray8737 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JosephEdicoes Yes, it was a SAMS book called "Teach yourself C in 21 Days". The Authors are Peter Aitken and Bradley L. Jones.

  • @BespokeJoe
    @BespokeJoe 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    When I hear Make America Great Again, this is what comes to my mind.

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yazz! I don’t necessarily think everyone has that particular idea, though.

    • @keithcampbell6352
      @keithcampbell6352 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I definitely agree. This was the golden age of computing.

  • @nathanas64
    @nathanas64 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing how far we’ve come!

  • @desvendandoornasaude4127
    @desvendandoornasaude4127 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What an amazing video!

  • @Mohandas.Gandhi
    @Mohandas.Gandhi หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    11:07 It's kind of funny that the analogy for file systems being like files in a filing cabinet is now something that people in the year 2025 can use to understand how filing cabinets were organized. Total flip.

    • @jan80trs
      @jan80trs 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And yet, it's a difficult concept, apparently. I'm still loosing my hair over it, explaining it to users in our company.

    • @daniellapain1576
      @daniellapain1576 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not everyone grew up with a filing cabinet but one thing that you can do with a filing cabinet is label the file names with colour. To this day this is still not a feature of any major OS unless you’re in a terminal environment. If you’ve ever looked at a wall of files trying to find a certain configuration file that are among other file types with the same file icon then you might understand what I mean. Just want the option in the rename scheme for human legibility.

    • @YadraVoat
      @YadraVoat 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@daniellapain1576 Um, what? 😅 Various Apple operating systems have had filesystems with eight flag-bits for assigning colors to Hierarchical File System (HFS) files and folders since the early 1990s or earlier ( HFS itself was introduced in 1985) and numerous Linux file managers (filesystem explorers) such as Thunar, have centralized databases for tagging colors onto files and folders even if the underlying filesystems (such as Ext4) don't directly support it (but with the extended-attributes feature you can tag a file with anything it's just a question of how the programs you use to view them, handle that metadata)....oh, sorry did you mean you wanted it in a console application? I wrote all that before realizing you might. 😅 Yeah it's been kind of a GUI thing.

    • @daniellapain1576
      @daniellapain1576 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@YadraVoat I mean when you hit rename you do not get the option to customize text color on gui file system. Maybe used to be a feature but I haven’t seen it for modern systems.

  • @irfanbaig1888
    @irfanbaig1888 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    lol @ the lady drinking her coffee while the computer finishes saying the number. classic.

  • @JPs-q1o
    @JPs-q1o 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I didn't know that Dennis Ritchie was so eloquent and well-spoken.

  • @DivulgarQqerCoisa
    @DivulgarQqerCoisa 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    amazing, thank you for sharing

  • @JoaquinRoibal
    @JoaquinRoibal 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you for this video. I am taking a Linux Course and IT software course to learn these skills to be in IT. Absolutely loved the history of this video, and helped me to understand many concepts which I had not before such as the entire purpose of Unix being created. It's incredible to see the progress of software and OS's today. My favorite part was the quote that if they kept doing telephone switching by hand, they would need every person in America to be a telephone switcher.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching!!

    • @CasinoWoyale
      @CasinoWoyale 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why are you thanking the uploader?
      The uploader merely copied this content (presumably without permission) from the AT&T Tech Channel.

  • @raz0229
    @raz0229 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    16:05 The robotic voice in the background while the presenter sips her coffee killed me for some reason, lol

  • @TheSamweiss
    @TheSamweiss 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    we are still using these commands, it's a tremendous work they did at this time. Looking forward for decennies, genius people - thanks Bell labs !!

  • @OrbitTheSun
    @OrbitTheSun 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The dc (desk calculator) program, which was shown, is on my Linux to this day, but I haven't used it ever.

  • @Tertioptus
    @Tertioptus หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In 2024, "UNIX" is indeed in most dictionaries.

  • @damianm-nordhorn116
    @damianm-nordhorn116 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Such gifted and resourceful yet humble and sympathetic guys!
    They probably lived good lives, but imagine they had been born a couple of decades later.
    They would've been SHOWERED with money.

    • @swooka689
      @swooka689 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really, Dennis Ritchie died alone, still working at bell labs. Very humble and low key. Never been married and no kids. He died around same time Steve Jobs did and everyone praised Jobs when Unix made apples success possible.

  • @JG27Korny
    @JG27Korny 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    40 years later the same idea of pipelines but with AI. Now the AI agents in pipelines bring the next tech revolution.

  • @kairysisKrantas
    @kairysisKrantas หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    16:12 "that will take some time" sips the drink.

  • @NateEngle
    @NateEngle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool comparing the archive footage of Brian Kernigan with the recent interviews with him that are posted on the Computerphile channel.

  • @4thesakeofitname
    @4thesakeofitname หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow that's a great archival content...

  • @spacenerd757
    @spacenerd757 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was 10 years old when this video was released. At 20 years old I was was a freshman at a university working as a consultant to the 4th year CS graduate students teaching them how to use SunOS/Solaris on sparc lunchboxes.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used SunOS in college too! Feels like the good old days!

  • @marcelohpinheiro
    @marcelohpinheiro 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I enjoyed this video very much.

  • @longlost8424
    @longlost8424 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    is that bill moyers narrating this? sure sound s like him..... for me its memory lane as I knew some of the developers of unix. met them back in the 1970s as I was getting into computing.... 47 years later and 1 retirement (back in 2002, working on my second now) behind me, I'm still in love with the industry.....

  • @FirstNameLastName-hahaha
    @FirstNameLastName-hahaha 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow .. Kernigan and Richie in the flesh .. heroes .. and the rest

  • @TheHolym4n
    @TheHolym4n 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just love how these great software engineers/gurus look like deer caught in the headlights staring at the camera 😄, they were human after all.

  • @cheesetoochalk
    @cheesetoochalk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow. So much in this video is taken for granted now. Especially by programmers.

  • @lifebyvikk6751
    @lifebyvikk6751 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    How can I be like these guys! Absolute legends!

    • @FhargaZ
      @FhargaZ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glasses and sweaters.

    • @blackneos940
      @blackneos940 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FhargaZ And beards.

    • @intrepidis1
      @intrepidis1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Learn Rust and write Linux software. 👌

  • @mk553
    @mk553 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Unix is definitely in the dictionary now!

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Back then, few could afford a minicomputer.

    • @mk553
      @mk553 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewlankford9634 That's true. The best my family could do, was a TRS-80.

  • @youtubeaccount931
    @youtubeaccount931 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Epic. Thanks for this

  • @kebman
    @kebman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My god, I love that computer voice. I would make it a super-villain in my movie, except ... he would actually only do good! A misunderstood hero!

  • @AlexAnsbergsCyber
    @AlexAnsbergsCyber 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    10:27 he just described agile. He was so ahead of his time!

  • @SanjaySingh-oh7hv
    @SanjaySingh-oh7hv 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh neat, John R. Mashey is in this video. I remember reading about him as a lead architect of the MIPS processor line. I didn't know he was part of Bell Labs as well. Bell Labs has had some very important people in its ranks over the years.

  • @codecaine
    @codecaine หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still a gem of a video.

  • @mingmillennium
    @mingmillennium หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Through constant abstraction, it is increasingly difficult for CS majors to escape their comfort zone to learn how the computer work.

    • @Bradgilliswhammyman
      @Bradgilliswhammyman 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is good to know the basics..but that tech is changing all the time. The are not going to be coding in assembly or machine language. Never bad to learn but it isn't something they will be using unless architecting new hardware...and tbh, GPU probably taking over.

  • @Wally-gm6ec
    @Wally-gm6ec หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Those folks IQ were off the charts, but yet they couldn't tell you what a spark plug was lol

  • @reinisignatans2340
    @reinisignatans2340 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The future was in 1982

  • @osman3404
    @osman3404 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We take for granted what AI can do these days and we forget the history of computing that lead to it

  • @smalldoguser69
    @smalldoguser69 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unix is now in the Cambridge English Dictionary

  • @harveybc
    @harveybc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seeing this makes me think about many of today's "youths" who scoff that us old folks saying we no nothing of computers. I wonder how many of today's "computer geeks", (other than the Linux ones who are terminal savvy), would just sit and stare wondering what do I do.
    The last bit about checking grammar syntax reminds me of programs that were add on to many word processors.

    • @SomeDudeInBaltimore
      @SomeDudeInBaltimore 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      To be fair, in this time period, the vast majority of people had never even seen a computer in person yet. When young people talk about older folks not being technologically literate, they are usually talking about their normie parents or grandparents, not the ubernerds who worked on these systems.

    • @harveybc
      @harveybc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SomeDudeInBaltimore That might have been true in the past. I'm over 70 and was in my 20's when I got my first computer. People 50 years old grew out diapers when a lot of people had computers. And back then, while a lot of games were available most who had them actually used them for stuff like word processing.

  • @bankaa9293
    @bankaa9293 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the time when Unix makes computers easy to use

  • @RagHelen
    @RagHelen 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn't have imagined Ritchie to be so well-combed back then.

  • @jr_Linux
    @jr_Linux 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    dude this is awesome, as a newer linux user after using windows for yrs just randomly saw this on my home feed on yt, and this is amazing now i understand where cat grep and | came from.
    anyone else think we need to bring back the information at the end of this video where it shows you what your writing grade level is?? i think thats information that we need in 2025, showing the real incompetance of people. and there grade level, but we all know corporate america wouldn't do this cause it would just prove the education system is trash.

  • @stevelamprou
    @stevelamprou หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Listening about pipelines in 1982!

  • @trump1678
    @trump1678 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video!

  • @jimhollywood2763
    @jimhollywood2763 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I started my UNIX/C journey in 1983

    • @OrbitTheSun
      @OrbitTheSun 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here. I started with UNIX version 6 on a PDP-11.

  • @navarrodba
    @navarrodba 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool. I wish I had started using unix earlier.

  • @BaldingEagle51
    @BaldingEagle51 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    @2:47 oh, how the role of OSes has changed. Now, the OS is to enforce the proprietary formats, platforms and APIs of the maker, and to prevent as many programs from running as possible.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So true!! We need to go back!!

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's being a little harsh. APIs are way better than a barebones "kernel" (really just firmware), BASIC and/or a disk "operating system", and lots of very limited programs with redundant code. Unix created great standards and almost beat getting preemptive multitasking to the desktop before Windows NT. MS reimplemented a subset of Unix standards poorly but created some other ones even dedicated Linux people use. The thing to do is keep Unix/Linux open so that users have a choice.

  • @peteryakubu3434
    @peteryakubu3434 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    this is actually beautiful. It is truly amazing see where we are coming from. Now we just code in python and call it a day.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine no Google or ChatGPT to look up commands too!

    • @chickenspaceprogram
      @chickenspaceprogram หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@williamedwardhahn i mean, they did at least have manpages, so it wasn't so hard

    • @ivanheffner2587
      @ivanheffner2587 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chickenspaceprogramThey also had volumes of print manuals filling shelves in their IT libraries for when you needed a reference but weren’t paying for CPU time. Shared computing systems at this time were still a scarce resource. You didn’t want to spend your minutes reading the man pages if you didn’t need to.

  • @erco8000
    @erco8000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The old and super powerful Unix 😊

  • @miraculixxs
    @miraculixxs หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video should just humble everyone who thinks creating educational content is somehow a recent invention.

  • @HappyCheeryChap
    @HappyCheeryChap หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    It's a Unix system. I know this.

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      🦕

    • @burtonrodman
      @burtonrodman หลายเดือนก่อน

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow หลายเดือนก่อน

      Line not in book. Most of the iconic lines in that film are in the book, but not iconic ("welcome to Jurassic Park") or said by the same characters ("deplorable excess of personality").

    • @bane112
      @bane112 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's an interactive cd-rom!!

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Actually all of the computer stuff in the book reads like a non-computer person's idea of what code looks like

  • @alexellz
    @alexellz หลายเดือนก่อน

    A note on the file system analogy, (my opinion). It is very important to take it a step further and acknowledge that the words and characters are used to represent concepts and ideas (past, present or future).
    That might seem unnecessary or taking it a step too far, but it’s my view that if that part is left implied that is the point where tech becomes alienating to those who don’t appreciate the craft for what it is and it’s usefulness.
    That seems to be an overlooked point of synthesis between real and digital. Without explicitly stating why the file cabinet and documents exist in the first place and why it is being converted to digital a lot of substance is left obscured. Certain things cannot be left unsaid, like a parent talking to a child. It is incomplete to assume the purpose of something is immediately realized.
    Edit: 11:15

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is the future generation going to think when the original design metaphors are no longer relevant. Filing cabinets are already pretty rare!

    • @alexellz
      @alexellz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ that’s what I’m saying, not putting in the effort to go from 95% to 100% is a dangerous game. Doesn’t seem like a big deal at first but within a few generations things become wildly off-axis.

    • @alexellz
      @alexellz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I think paper, manual and analog systems should be a permanent fixture in education K-12

  • @hanssteuerfuzzi5182
    @hanssteuerfuzzi5182 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good video. What we also learn from it is that excessive use of computers might be bad for your eyesight 😅

  • @myoriginalname
    @myoriginalname หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These guys look like the lone gunmen from X files

  • @mikezooper
    @mikezooper 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kernigan and Richie created C too. A programming language. Amazing!

    • @vorrnth8734
      @vorrnth8734 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They created C to make developing Unix easier and more portable. So no coincidence here.

  • @robertnicora7566
    @robertnicora7566 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vidéo to discover why Unix and Linux are always better than others.

  • @kalles8789
    @kalles8789 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those were the pioneers

  • @mikestaub
    @mikestaub หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Where are you finding these gems?

  • @tujuprojects
    @tujuprojects 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Someone could make a documentary what those peoples’ lives were and are they still around.

  • @anteparts
    @anteparts 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this summarizes my university years 🤗

  • @Tarabass
    @Tarabass 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @3:30
    Ken Thompson: "on a mini computer"
    Dennis Ritchie sitting behind a monitor 5 feet deep

  • @moldovanmoldovan7593
    @moldovanmoldovan7593 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    RIP K&R. We might join you at 01 AM 19 Jan 2038

    • @nandi123
      @nandi123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who are K&R?

    • @damianm-nordhorn116
      @damianm-nordhorn116 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nandi123
      Google it. ..probably better "k&r wiki(pedia)" and figure out what fits this video's topic.
      Then Google for "k&r pdf" or "k&r c pdf" and download one from some non-shady website, such as a known University.
      First one I see in the Google search right now is from UCSD.

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha.

    • @bjsvec
      @bjsvec หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nandi123I think he means Ken and Dennis or Thompson and Ritchie.

    • @nandi123
      @nandi123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bjsvec Ken is still alive.

  • @MichaelBehrnsMiller
    @MichaelBehrnsMiller 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah the glorious days of synchronous programming

  • @13orrax
    @13orrax 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    im only watching this in case i have to get Jurassic park back online

  • @Bradgilliswhammyman
    @Bradgilliswhammyman 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow Dennis Ritchie, he co-wrote the original book for Programming in C.

    • @intrepidis1
      @intrepidis1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, that's because he actually created the C programming language himself. Legend.

  • @commandersprocket
    @commandersprocket 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, Unix -> Plan 9 OS -> Linux. Unix started as hack so Thompson could play a game "space travel" on a PDP-7...Plan 9 OS was the *fully intentional* follow-up OS. MS-DOS was a low-quality copy of Killdall's CP/M (likely only adopted by IBM because Mary Gates knew the IBM Chairman), and Windows was a lower-quality copy of Kildall's GEM.

  • @mikakorhonen5715
    @mikakorhonen5715 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "You mean you have to use your hands?"

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “That’s like a baby’s toy!”

    • @alexanderlins8905
      @alexanderlins8905 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha I love a good old back to the future reference!

  • @MMarc64x
    @MMarc64x 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you take this video as a training course it still works today. That the strength of this OS.

  • @buw4494
    @buw4494 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Was that Richard Stallman in red sweater 3:44 ?

    • @Grenadierkicksass
      @Grenadierkicksass หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same question here. Does not know he worked at Bell Labs. Even his biographie does not mantioned it.

    • @YouthWaster
      @YouthWaster หลายเดือนก่อน

      No

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like him, but I don't think he lived in the area.

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow หลายเดือนก่อน

      No

  • @BsktImp
    @BsktImp หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Gen Z watching for the 80s fashions?

    • @williamedwardhahn
      @williamedwardhahn  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those outfits are fresh!

    • @andrewlankford9634
      @andrewlankford9634 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      EARLY 80's fashion. Thompson and co were top Bell Lab employees and didn't have to care how they looked.

  • @MNpale
    @MNpale 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    03:30 Enter “mini computer” 😂

  • @SomeDudeInBaltimore
    @SomeDudeInBaltimore 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was born the year this was made. My daily driver OS is Debian Linux now.

  • @josesardinas7660
    @josesardinas7660 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started with SCO 386 back in the 80s 🙂

  • @PaulTopping1
    @PaulTopping1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But Mr. Kernighan, "unix" is in the dictionary!

  • @pmarreck
    @pmarreck 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "making computers easier to use"
    Well that didn't age well

  • @STSwhisperer
    @STSwhisperer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Unreal

  • @sdpolukhin
    @sdpolukhin หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought this was a "programmers are also human" video because of the thumbnail😅

    • @kevinkeryk
      @kevinkeryk หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same. I clicked on it expecting some over-exaggerated and funny explanations of why UNIX is better than Linux. Instead, I actually learned some things.