For your "Ressource busy" problem: You have to unmount the drive first. It was still mounted. It was even visible in the finder app. Maybe this helps next time. 🙂
The number of things he messed up just not reading the directions properly was killing me, he like skimmed them or something, I actually think he was just copying commands and not reading what was between them
@@rabiddoughnuts Which is a dangerous trap to get into when troubleshooting/learning new things. This is a major reason why I'm torn when it comes to people using ChatGPT etc, if they're using it to ask well formulated questions they've tried fixing themselves, tried looking up on the Wiki, Forums, Reddit and are still having issues then sure, with good prompting LLM's can be very helpful in approaching the issue from multiple angles! But most it just becomes a habit of (Problem)-*urn to ChatGPT asking for help* (Copying what ChatGPT says) Every time and the brain will just mostly take a backseat from the learning process. He'd have found out about archinstall which for a beginner would have at least made things easier for him. I still enjoy seeing more and more people trying Linux or talking about it, but I still think retention is a major issue as esp younger generations in early/late teens if there's a noticeable amount of friction seem to mostly peace out mentally.
The thing about arch is... while it has this reputation of being super hard (granted a deserved reputation), it is INCREDIBLY well documents. The arch installation guide makes it so easy to set up. And the journey of setting up archlinux will make you much better at linux.
Sorry but I have to desagree about the part of well documented. If it was well documented it should't be that hard to install and upcoming problems should be easier to solve. For me it sometimes seemed like it was explained in a way that only the Arch programmers could understand, with some terminology that they assume I should know but I don't. Only my opinion
@@sergiosanchez3267 Every word and every link on that Installation page matters. The language is concise and precise. People just want to run the next command before understanding what they're actually doing - this video is a prime example of that.
@@gryzus2475 Although not every link and every line matters to every person. You really have to read through and understand what it's saying in order to discern what you need for your installation and what instructions apply to a different configuration. But I agree people skip over way too much and wonder why it doesn't work.
@@sergiosanchez3267 It's hard to understand when you haven't learned the concepts of unix systems yet. That's why I said installing arch is also a great learning experience. If you were to go to a distro like ubuntu and say just give me the bare minimum and don't install anything else, then reboot and set up everything through tty it would be a very similar experience. Any guide for doing that would be very similar to the arch install guide and just as difficult if you don't understand the core concepts.
@@sergiosanchez3267/videos The arch wiki is the best source of info ever, you have a full installation guide, designed for people that don't understand what is going on and then general recommendations. I disagree with "arch is hard", arch is just minimal which lets you customize a bunch of things, you can do that with any distro, arch just comes without the bloat. Arch has design directions that you might prefer or not, like systemd or the rolling nature of the releases, hence things breaking sometimes since you are using the newest possible updates and so on. The installation does what it does on anything else, including windows, it just isn't graphical: 0. We use a liveboot that contains minimal things and allows us to do anything on the pc 1. Partition your disks 2. Format them 3. Mount them 4. Install the core of the system 5. generate a table that does the mounting automatically when booting 6. Boot into the new system - done 7. Configure things like users, permissions, time, language (you can ofc do all that through the live boot) 8. Configure a bootloader, internet access, display server, package manager, window manager, display manager and so on Why this isn't done automatically? Because at each step you have a plethora of choices you can make depending on what you want to achieve. The actual installation of arch takes 10 min, the big timesink is configuring everything else (step 8), but that is also the fun part. You need to have it done one time and then use the same configs in all of your subsequent installations. Using AI in the video is so cringe, just do a google search and you find 10 people asking similar questions in forums. Those are very basic and always have an answer.
can we please talk about its enhanced movie and video editing skills? it was very exciting to watch this video with the change of environment and the tiled displays. now let's have some fun with arch linux.
There's more than one post saying Arch is great for beginners and I think they are deeply underestimating their own skill level. For the kind of person who can't keep an Android phone for a week before getting malware on it, or people who *just* need a browser and office suite to get to work, Linux Mint is a clear way to go and they can start learning more about the actual desktop after they've already been using it for a while. Some people want a car to get to work. Some people want to get a nice paint job on a pre-made car. And some people want a car where they've picked and vetted every screw, bolt, sparkplug, light, carborator, and engine model in their car. That's who Arch and Gentoo is for. That said even with zero interest in Arch as a distro/guideline, the Arch wiki is an *excellent* learning resource for anyone who has questions about how their desktop works.
Arch is definitely not great for beginners. Well, if you have unlimited time, want to do a lot of research and use weeks to get a working operating system, it may be, but that is not the case for most people. I recommend starting with something that is easy to install with a GUI, earn to do everything using the terminal, then try Arch to get a deeper understanding of how a Linux distro works. Arch definitely has a lot of advantage, with rolling release and no bloatware, so it's worth a try as soon as you learn the basics.
You remind me of me 12 years ago. It was the first successful installation of Archlinux on the third try )) Arch is the perfect distro for a linux newbie imho. It allows you to understand how the system works from the inside. Welcome to the family 😃🤝
I've been using Arch Linux full time for 3 years now. I don't think I'll ever switch. After installing it a bunch of times you realize it's as easy as following the arch wiki. That's all you really need to do. Apart from that, you just need to know the essential packages for wifi and stuff, and it just works. (And don't forget to install the bootloader XD). I've been really enjoying its lightweight nature along with Hyprland WM. And I learned a lot about GNU/Linux itself.
1.) Don't use chat GPT to help install Arch. Use the manual and the arch forums. 2.) Most people who want to use an arch system and not deal with the pain of install can simply use a good arch based distro, like CachyOS. CachyOS is very easy to install and they also optimize their kernel for performance.
Installing Arch is not about obtaining an Arch install, but about gaining experience of setting up a working Linux system. Installing Arch via the ArchWiki Guide is akin to 'Linux From Scratch' without the compiling of packages. It really makes you aware of the planning required to do it straight through. Tbh, it is an experience anyone wanting to get deeper in Linux should do every once and again to refresh their knowledge of basic system troubleshooting. Now would also be a great time to tell you about the Arch install script... ;-D
If you use the arch installer, it's actually really fast and straightforward. If you want to install each and every bit yourself, then it can be a headache. I use the quicker install then just tweak things once I'm inside. Much less stressful
Using the installer will bite you in the ass down the line once you encounter some issues (which will happen on a rolling release) and you don't know how to recover / configure your system manually. It's quite useful for people already proficient, but I wouldn't recommend it for first-timers.
@vincentschult1725 that's weird, the install I'm on now has made it a year without problems. But when I fresh installed without the installer, I encounter way more issues, especially when it came to using an nvidia gpu. Maybe I just got lucky
@@joea9222 I guess it depends on what kind of things you dabble in. If you want secure boot to work properly for example, I think you should definitely know what you're doing (especially if you plan on using fwupd to get firmware updates, a borked secure boot signing process can really mess up a lot here) But of course if you're happy with archinstall more power to you, elitism is stupid! If you have a spare machine or space for a VM I think it's still a good idea to practice the manual install a bit there.
Archinstall is HORRIBLE! Basically defeats the purpose and stability of Arch. And if you say "well archinstall gets your system set up in just a few minutes" so does Linux Mint and countless other preconfigured distros! If you want an arch install without wrangling with a terminal and a trash script, just use the countless forks with Calamares installers!
Hey Kalle! I'm so happy to see that you're back to uploading again (and looks like you have been since a month!) I know they're not very easy to make but I - and most of my developer friends, love watching you build things. Like your python automation videos, one day/one video builds etc. I really hope you'll do more of those again. Would also love to see your startup devlogs but as someone with hundreds of unfinished projects, I'll understand if you don't want to continue with it 😅
As someone who has written/edited arch wiki articles, this was so painful to watch. not even 5 min in and I'm screaming efibootmgr at the screen 😅 but, you made it & you'll only learn more as you go. Welcome to the club. Now you run arch btw 😊
im glad you had problems, seriously. so many 'perfect' installs of arch on youtube its great to have an honest 'its not all plain sailing'. but pain is how we learn. arch is an exam if you like, not so much a test of technical skill, but of knowledge, how to adapt the guide to your system such as language, partitions etc installing successfully (without the installer) and getting to that initial login prompt. something to be proud of. i use arch (XFCE) btw 🐧
You can use Ventoy to create bootable usb drives with no headache. After you install Ventoy on the usb drive, it will detect any iso files you copy on it and let you boot any of them. Also, if you find Arch Linux installer too barebones and obtuse, use Endeavor OS which is just Arch Linux with a more user friendly installer.
Kudos to you for being transparent about the installation. Arch Linux took a few tries for me to install the first time, and I had major mess ups that required me to re-install months in. The longer you keep using it, the faster future installations are and breakages (which are usually the users fault) become less daunting as you know how to repair it. It’s immensely satisfying, but requires a time commitment.
I recommend everyone to use and start with arch. Years down the line, you’ll know why. That’s all. Basically you’ll be way ahead of everyone around you.
I really appreciate your struggle through the entire process. Your perseverance and transperancy really make the process enjoyable. that's what a problem solver actually do in its daily life. Kudos to your efforts man 🙌
when i installed arch linux for the first time it was in a virtual machine just to try it. needed several tries to get it done... nowadays i use arch linux on a desktop computer and i had no problems installing it (well the partition layout i chose has its flaws but everything works...) some troubles portrayed in this video i can definitely understand. but some issues you've had are simply the result of not reading the installation guide in its entirety (e.g. 1.7 Connect to the Internet or 2.2 Install essential packages) but hey, you did it, congratulations, now you can have a lot of fun with the next rabbit holes: actual setup of your system(browser, mails, software you need), customizing xfce, installing other desktop environments and finally breaking your system with strange aur packages...
Took on the arch challenge couple of months ago. I feel you. Quite a learning experience. Good fun though and it is currently my favorite operating system.
It's not hard, just actually *read* the guide, I get the feeling he just hopped from command to command copying them without worrying about how it tells you to tailor them to your machine, like with his partition issue, it tells you exactly what you need, he only had that problem because he wasn't paying attention
The guide tells you just to install some basic packages during install, but you can install more in that phase, for example iwd for wireless connections. It would have saved him a lot of time, but he wouldn't learn as much as he did.
Whenever something fails on your system and the cracked-out searchbot suggests to check the logs for an error is usually is a wise thing to quickly check. Most of the time these error logs will tell you what is wrong and you can move on with your day after fixing it. When using distros like Arch this is kinda important.
something that I think could be clarified better is how non-optional installing extra stuff ahead of time either via pacstrap or chrooted pacman is if your end goal is a desktop, the wiki says they're optional which is technically true but to actually do things they aren't really and it gives a false message of them being nice to haves for the guided use case
For mounting the iso what is a good thing to do is have a usb with ventoy so that u can just put the iso file. And for next time please read documentation instead of chatgpt. The reason mainly is u have to read documrntation is it is well documented so no need for this type of search.
I'm sortof new to this, but getting to a point that installing Arch is not a mega hurdle for me is my aim. I realize it'll take time. It's helpful reference that you showed what was going on onscreen almost the whole way, thanks for that.
I use Arch btw, but it's the Garuda Gaming Distro, it has everything you need already installed and configured and has a fancy graphical installer tool, which is the one in the video from the start. Also I noticed on Linux if you have a weird file name with dashes and underscores and other things it's harder to use the terminal, so I usually rename the file to a one or two letter word.
Great video! If I started using arch just like you did, I’d probably give up on it. However, I started using Arch with a preconfigured Hyrpland and I’ve enjoyed using it since then. I think this is what makes using Arch fun. It’s complicated at first but once you get past that phase, you probably won’t want to switch to another distro
I saw your videos wjen I was in college and saw your video happy to see you again after 6 years I am senior software Engineer working in a US company and also running a company of IT services and digital marketing . Thanks for giving me a path lots of love from india
A little heads up since it seems your a newbie in linux, while installing you are logged in as root and root is the superuser, the reason why you couldnt use the sudo command is because the sudo command is basically a call out to the root user, so while logged in as root you dont need to use the sudo command you could have typed pacman -S nano/vim without sudo
"archinstall" is also a faster way to do this. Yes, you learn more the old "traditional" way of installing, however it saves you time and you still have full control of the setup :)
Modules that could be missing is normal for a arch install, since most modules are used for specific hardware, for example if you using a desktop and that desktop doesnt have wifi in the arch logic way there is no need to install the module that does the wifi part, same goes to a bunch of modules
The cool thing is, you just need to mount the partitions and do `arch-chroot /mnt` no need to redo everything. Installing the bootloader is also the step i most often field to do correctly when I was starting out.
I use Arch, by the way, but for a tiny virtual machine that I need to be super lightweight and fast. Beside of that, instead of spending tons of my time installing and customizing Arch as a desktop OS, I choose other distros that are preconfigured and work out of the box to save some time to be more productive. Typing this on LMDE.
OMG... I wish so much I could have helped you do this! I use Arch Linux BTW, for about seven years now. At home and at work. On my server and in my homelab.
Been using Arch for a year now after distro hopping many many times. It's great with a good window manager like Hyprland, I love it. Still dual boot with windows for gaming and some other software occasionally.
Installing Arch Linux manually was a great Linux learning experience. Though i recommend doing it on a virtual machine first, get that to a usable state before you wipe out your disk for the challenge.
I know I'm late to the party, but technically you could install Manjaro Linux, which is also based on Arch. But this is quite entertaining to see someone installing Arch from the base. You got a new subscriber here. Coming from a half-Linux user (because my work PC is Windows and my gaming PC is Linux, so that's the reason on the half pun)
@@researchandthinkprimarily I've already migrated to Ubuntu even though it's half usable to me. Just using the PC as a web and gaming machine. Right now I'm happy with it.
I have no bootable device problem too and after i mount boot partition from my uefi bios settings it getting around 2 to 3 minutes to boot so i stop use it and i install Ubuntu by the way 😢 I use dell inspiron laptop ..
You don't need to redo everything, just boot the install media, mount everything under /mnt again, and call arch-chroot again and pick up where you left off. BTW, you forgot to install a boot loader (Either efibootmgr or GRUB)
Prime example why I used an Arch-based distro. edit: unrelated, but your experience reminded me of when I try install Debian with no desktop so I had to install almost everything too.
It's hard, but the instruction manual is robust enough that this is only a minor issue. I'm glad that games work on linux now or I never would have switched. It's a whole new experience and I feel like I own my computer again.
Hi Haliden, Arch seems far more difficult to install than Linux Mint Cinnamon. I didn't have to use the terminal or anything. I'm a novice when it comes to installing a new OS, but I like Cinnamon 22. There are a few bugs, but overall, I love it over the other 3 Ubuntu OS's I used. I attempted to install Ubuntu on my previous laptop--a Dell, and it did not work no matter what I did. I couldn't change the boot schedule.
Yup. Most distros have a graphical installer which makes things easy. Arch linux also has an install script. You boot up into the live environment using the usb stick and then run the ‘archinstall’ command. It’s really easy and fast. Try it out in a virtual machine if you’re interested. Arch can be quite fun if you are into that sort of thing and you learn a lot about linux in general while getting things to work in arch. You can use that knowledge in your ubuntu or mint machine
I had something similar happen with another distro on a Dell computer. I hit F12 on bootup, went to the bottom selection and switched from UEFI to Legacy, and after restarting, the system booted from the hard drive.
I used ubuntu, kali, zorin, gentoo many many years ago and after seeing so much advancement and updates, Im giving it a go again this time around using pop! Os. Worst case scenario i have a backup of mint and windows 10 if i need to revert. Relearning linux from square one all over again. Should be fun and not a complete headache😅
True, archinstall will make it easier... but @Hallden, you did a good job by doing the manual installation first! Doing so has the capacity to make you a much more educated and experienced Arch user, and will serve you well in the future!
@@egokhanturk But the point for most users is to get a working OS and do your job as soon as possible. I personally wouldn't use arch without archinstall, but there is no AUR on ubuntu, only stupid ppa/flatpaks.
I use arch btw 14:04 those are just DELL problems i faced it too after a lot of trying it worked and i am using it for more than 2 years with no problems i escape this problem use ThinkPad
Is there a decent guide to installing arch on a virtual machine? I’ve tried it 3 times and each one has gone ok but then either doesn’t have internet or is missing packages.
Arch linux is like Lego or Airfix. Some boys would want toys that work out-of-the-box, batteries included; some boys would rather enjoy the process of customising they own toys. Nothing wrong with either, just don't complain about the other.
I installed Arch for the first time in about 2 hours (not including waiting for it to download). I didn't hit the same issues you've run in to. Hopefully Day 2 went better than Day 1.
to setup dhcp on any interface just dhclient enps0sXX or wlanXX that would make a dhcp request and configure the interface ip, the routes and /etc/resolv.conf
Hallden, would you have used the Arch Linux Wiki Manual? Or were there useful inquiries from GPT that helped/assisted in the process from start to finish? If so can you provide them. Eg. Configuration redundancy?
Desktop environment (Graphical user interface) its a personal choice of each, but probably you should install KDE Plasma to get most from what Linux can provide on PC. Also GNOME is an option, but i feel like to this date KDE Plasma is more packed with features.
For the average user that only complicates it further. Bad advice for someone trying Arch for the first time. Look at the guy, even installing basic Arch is a pain for some people.
For your "Ressource busy" problem: You have to unmount the drive first. It was still mounted. It was even visible in the finder app. Maybe this helps next time. 🙂
I wanted to say the same thing.
The number of things he messed up just not reading the directions properly was killing me, he like skimmed them or something, I actually think he was just copying commands and not reading what was between them
@@rabiddoughnuts Which is a dangerous trap to get into when troubleshooting/learning new things. This is a major reason why I'm torn when it comes to people using ChatGPT etc, if they're using it to ask well formulated questions they've tried fixing themselves, tried looking up on the Wiki, Forums, Reddit and are still having issues then sure, with good prompting LLM's can be very helpful in approaching the issue from multiple angles!
But most it just becomes a habit of (Problem)-*urn to ChatGPT asking for help* (Copying what ChatGPT says)
Every time and the brain will just mostly take a backseat from the learning process.
He'd have found out about archinstall which for a beginner would have at least made things easier for him.
I still enjoy seeing more and more people trying Linux or talking about it, but I still think retention is a major issue as esp younger generations in early/late teens if there's a noticeable amount of friction seem to mostly peace out mentally.
The thing about arch is... while it has this reputation of being super hard (granted a deserved reputation), it is INCREDIBLY well documents. The arch installation guide makes it so easy to set up. And the journey of setting up archlinux will make you much better at linux.
Sorry but I have to desagree about the part of well documented. If it was well documented it should't be that hard to install and upcoming problems should be easier to solve. For me it sometimes seemed like it was explained in a way that only the Arch programmers could understand, with some terminology that they assume I should know but I don't. Only my opinion
@@sergiosanchez3267 Every word and every link on that Installation page matters. The language is concise and precise. People just want to run the next command before understanding what they're actually doing - this video is a prime example of that.
@@gryzus2475 Although not every link and every line matters to every person. You really have to read through and understand what it's saying in order to discern what you need for your installation and what instructions apply to a different configuration. But I agree people skip over way too much and wonder why it doesn't work.
@@sergiosanchez3267 It's hard to understand when you haven't learned the concepts of unix systems yet. That's why I said installing arch is also a great learning experience. If you were to go to a distro like ubuntu and say just give me the bare minimum and don't install anything else, then reboot and set up everything through tty it would be a very similar experience. Any guide for doing that would be very similar to the arch install guide and just as difficult if you don't understand the core concepts.
@@sergiosanchez3267/videos The arch wiki is the best source of info ever, you have a full installation guide, designed for people that don't understand what is going on and then general recommendations. I disagree with "arch is hard", arch is just minimal which lets you customize a bunch of things, you can do that with any distro, arch just comes without the bloat. Arch has design directions that you might prefer or not, like systemd or the rolling nature of the releases, hence things breaking sometimes since you are using the newest possible updates and so on.
The installation does what it does on anything else, including windows, it just isn't graphical:
0. We use a liveboot that contains minimal things and allows us to do anything on the pc
1. Partition your disks
2. Format them
3. Mount them
4. Install the core of the system
5. generate a table that does the mounting automatically when booting
6. Boot into the new system - done
7. Configure things like users, permissions, time, language (you can ofc do all that through the live boot)
8. Configure a bootloader, internet access, display server, package manager, window manager, display manager and so on
Why this isn't done automatically? Because at each step you have a plethora of choices you can make depending on what you want to achieve. The actual installation of arch takes 10 min, the big timesink is configuring everything else (step 8), but that is also the fun part. You need to have it done one time and then use the same configs in all of your subsequent installations.
Using AI in the video is so cringe, just do a google search and you find 10 people asking similar questions in forums. Those are very basic and always have an answer.
As a clueless Ubuntu/Linux Mint user I found this quite informative and entertaining
I use arch btw
I use it too, and it's such a bliss. I love it
Btw I too
I'm installing it now
For me, installing arch has become as easy as installing linux mint. Lol
@@DV-ml4fm i did speedrun arch installs, my current PB is 1m14s from archiso to installed tty
can we please talk about its enhanced movie and video editing skills? it was very exciting to watch this video with the change of environment and the tiled displays. now let's have some fun with arch linux.
There's more than one post saying Arch is great for beginners and I think they are deeply underestimating their own skill level.
For the kind of person who can't keep an Android phone for a week before getting malware on it, or people who *just* need a browser and office suite to get to work, Linux Mint is a clear way to go and they can start learning more about the actual desktop after they've already been using it for a while.
Some people want a car to get to work. Some people want to get a nice paint job on a pre-made car. And some people want a car where they've picked and vetted every screw, bolt, sparkplug, light, carborator, and engine model in their car. That's who Arch and Gentoo is for.
That said even with zero interest in Arch as a distro/guideline, the Arch wiki is an *excellent* learning resource for anyone who has questions about how their desktop works.
Arch is definitely not great for beginners.
Well, if you have unlimited time, want to do a lot of research and use weeks to get a working operating system, it may be, but that is not the case for most people.
I recommend starting with something that is easy to install with a GUI, earn to do everything using the terminal, then try Arch to get a deeper understanding of how a Linux distro works. Arch definitely has a lot of advantage, with rolling release and no bloatware, so it's worth a try as soon as you learn the basics.
You remind me of me 12 years ago. It was the first successful installation of Archlinux on the third try )) Arch is the perfect distro for a linux newbie imho. It allows you to understand how the system works from the inside.
Welcome to the family 😃🤝
I've been using Arch Linux full time for 3 years now. I don't think I'll ever switch. After installing it a bunch of times you realize it's as easy as following the arch wiki. That's all you really need to do. Apart from that, you just need to know the essential packages for wifi and stuff, and it just works. (And don't forget to install the bootloader XD). I've been really enjoying its lightweight nature along with Hyprland WM. And I learned a lot about GNU/Linux itself.
1.) Don't use chat GPT to help install Arch. Use the manual and the arch forums. 2.) Most people who want to use an arch system and not deal with the pain of install can simply use a good arch based distro, like CachyOS. CachyOS is very easy to install and they also optimize their kernel for performance.
Don't use chatgpt. Period.
@@MelroyvandenBerg Chatgpt is very useful. Saying something like this doesn't make any sense.
imo instead of cachyos you've got endeavour which is also very easy to install
@@DarthVader11912 Using ChatGPT really does not make any sense - just follow the Archwiki and you'll be ready very quickly.
@@user-kp9du8cs1r in my experience, endeavouros is just buggy as hell but others may vary.
Installing Arch is not about obtaining an Arch install, but about gaining experience of setting up a working Linux system. Installing Arch via the ArchWiki Guide is akin to 'Linux From Scratch' without the compiling of packages. It really makes you aware of the planning required to do it straight through.
Tbh, it is an experience anyone wanting to get deeper in Linux should do every once and again to refresh their knowledge of basic system troubleshooting.
Now would also be a great time to tell you about the Arch install script... ;-D
Totally agree 👍
If you use the arch installer, it's actually really fast and straightforward. If you want to install each and every bit yourself, then it can be a headache. I use the quicker install then just tweak things once I'm inside. Much less stressful
Using the installer will bite you in the ass down the line once you encounter some issues (which will happen on a rolling release) and you don't know how to recover / configure your system manually. It's quite useful for people already proficient, but I wouldn't recommend it for first-timers.
@vincentschult1725 that's weird, the install I'm on now has made it a year without problems. But when I fresh installed without the installer, I encounter way more issues, especially when it came to using an nvidia gpu. Maybe I just got lucky
@@joea9222 I guess it depends on what kind of things you dabble in. If you want secure boot to work properly for example, I think you should definitely know what you're doing (especially if you plan on using fwupd to get firmware updates, a borked secure boot signing process can really mess up a lot here)
But of course if you're happy with archinstall more power to you, elitism is stupid! If you have a spare machine or space for a VM I think it's still a good idea to practice the manual install a bit there.
if you're going to use the arch installer, why not just go with EndeavourOS?
Suggestion for the next video: use the archinstall command , you will get this done in the first day. It would be nice to see the difference
Archinstall is HORRIBLE! Basically defeats the purpose and stability of Arch. And if you say "well archinstall gets your system set up in just a few minutes" so does Linux Mint and countless other preconfigured distros! If you want an arch install without wrangling with a terminal and a trash script, just use the countless forks with Calamares installers!
@@billybobjankens12 nerd
Hey Kalle! I'm so happy to see that you're back to uploading again (and looks like you have been since a month!)
I know they're not very easy to make but I - and most of my developer friends, love watching you build things. Like your python automation videos, one day/one video builds etc. I really hope you'll do more of those again.
Would also love to see your startup devlogs but as someone with hundreds of unfinished projects, I'll understand if you don't want to continue with it 😅
As someone who has written/edited arch wiki articles, this was so painful to watch. not even 5 min in and I'm screaming efibootmgr at the screen 😅 but, you made it & you'll only learn more as you go. Welcome to the club. Now you run arch btw 😊
Must have been quite exhausting😂
quite ambitious of you to use ChatGPT to install Arch, welcome to the 'I use arch btw' gang
im glad you had problems, seriously.
so many 'perfect' installs of arch on youtube its great to have an honest 'its not all plain sailing'. but pain is how we learn.
arch is an exam if you like, not so much a test of technical skill, but of knowledge, how to adapt the guide to your system such as language, partitions etc
installing successfully (without the installer) and getting to that initial login prompt.
something to be proud of.
i use arch (XFCE) btw 🐧
You can use Ventoy to create bootable usb drives with no headache. After you install Ventoy on the usb drive, it will detect any iso files you copy on it and let you boot any of them. Also, if you find Arch Linux installer too barebones and obtuse, use Endeavor OS which is just Arch Linux with a more user friendly installer.
I was waiting for you to finish what you started long time back. Good to see that you finally use Arch btw 🎉
Kudos to you for being transparent about the installation. Arch Linux took a few tries for me to install the first time, and I had major mess ups that required me to re-install months in. The longer you keep using it, the faster future installations are and breakages (which are usually the users fault) become less daunting as you know how to repair it. It’s immensely satisfying, but requires a time commitment.
Very entertaining video to watch! 🎉 The quality of the production is so high. Nice job!
Tackar tackar!!
I recommend everyone to use and start with arch. Years down the line, you’ll know why. That’s all.
Basically you’ll be way ahead of everyone around you.
just start with any arch based linux, when you know your way around you can move on to real arch
I really appreciate your struggle through the entire process. Your perseverance and transperancy really make the process enjoyable. that's what a problem solver actually do in its daily life. Kudos to your efforts man 🙌
I did all of the same mistakes you did in this video when I first installed Arch😅 Great video!
when i installed arch linux for the first time it was in a virtual machine just to try it. needed several tries to get it done...
nowadays i use arch linux on a desktop computer and i had no problems installing it (well the partition layout i chose has its flaws but everything works...)
some troubles portrayed in this video i can definitely understand. but some issues you've had are simply the result of not reading the installation guide in its entirety (e.g. 1.7 Connect to the Internet or 2.2 Install essential packages)
but hey, you did it, congratulations, now you can have a lot of fun with the next rabbit holes: actual setup of your system(browser, mails, software you need), customizing xfce, installing other desktop environments and finally breaking your system with strange aur packages...
Awesome video!
congratulations, you're part of the club now
loved the finale "I think I can say now... I use arch btw"
Took on the arch challenge couple of months ago. I feel you. Quite a learning experience. Good fun though and it is currently my favorite operating system.
This was the best 40 minute break I've had in a while. Thanks.
Congratulations on getting the install done!
A for effort, but damn you hit every pothole didn't ya? Good job in the end.
33:18 good to see you creative and refreshed after the break
ps- try kde plasma next
I use Hyprland btw
Brooo Your video quality is insane
me watching this before starting the arch installation fingers crossed
It's not hard, just actually *read* the guide, I get the feeling he just hopped from command to command copying them without worrying about how it tells you to tailor them to your machine, like with his partition issue, it tells you exactly what you need, he only had that problem because he wasn't paying attention
The guide tells you just to install some basic packages during install, but you can install more in that phase, for example iwd for wireless connections. It would have saved him a lot of time, but he wouldn't learn as much as he did.
loved the picture with ur dad
Haha thank you!
Kalle, please share with us some hair care tips man! Your hair looks amazing.
Whenever something fails on your system and the cracked-out searchbot suggests to check the logs for an error is usually is a wise thing to quickly check. Most of the time these error logs will tell you what is wrong and you can move on with your day after fixing it. When using distros like Arch this is kinda important.
something that I think could be clarified better is how non-optional installing extra stuff ahead of time either via pacstrap or chrooted pacman is if your end goal is a desktop, the wiki says they're optional which is technically true but to actually do things they aren't really and it gives a false message of them being nice to haves for the guided use case
For mounting the iso what is a good thing to do is have a usb with ventoy so that u can just put the iso file. And for next time please read documentation instead of chatgpt. The reason mainly is u have to read documrntation is it is well documented so no need for this type of search.
I'm sortof new to this, but getting to a point that installing Arch is not a mega hurdle for me is my aim. I realize it'll take time. It's helpful reference that you showed what was going on onscreen almost the whole way, thanks for that.
Now you definitely owe us a video of you installing arch using the archinstall script
I use Arch btw, but it's the Garuda Gaming Distro, it has everything you need already installed and configured and has a fancy graphical installer tool, which is the one in the video from the start. Also I noticed on Linux if you have a weird file name with dashes and underscores and other things it's harder to use the terminal, so I usually rename the file to a one or two letter word.
Great video!
If I started using arch just like you did, I’d probably give up on it. However, I started using Arch with a preconfigured Hyrpland and I’ve enjoyed using it since then. I think this is what makes using Arch fun. It’s complicated at first but once you get past that phase, you probably won’t want to switch to another distro
best Arch advice i ever got was Read The Fucking Manual, RTFM.
I saw your videos wjen I was in college and saw your video happy to see you again after 6 years
I am senior software Engineer working in a US company and also running a company of IT services and digital marketing .
Thanks for giving me a path lots of love from india
Insert a comment about using ventoy here
necessary ventoy plug
A little heads up since it seems your a newbie in linux, while installing you are logged in as root and root is the superuser, the reason why you couldnt use the sudo command is because the sudo command is basically a call out to the root user, so while logged in as root you dont need to use the sudo command you could have typed pacman -S nano/vim without sudo
"archinstall" is also a faster way to do this. Yes, you learn more the old "traditional" way of installing, however it saves you time and you still have full control of the setup
:)
Babe wake up Hallden's uploading again!
Modules that could be missing is normal for a arch install, since most modules are used for specific hardware, for example if you using a desktop and that desktop doesnt have wifi in the arch logic way there is no need to install the module that does the wifi part, same goes to a bunch of modules
The cool thing is, you just need to mount the partitions and do `arch-chroot /mnt` no need to redo everything.
Installing the bootloader is also the step i most often field to do correctly when I was starting out.
Even the error logs looks cool in linux for non-tech guy and for linux user it's a kind of nightmare where he loves it and hates it at the same time
Congrats on installing arch! Now, it's time to hop between desktop environments like gnome, kde and explore trending ones like hyprland.
Bring me back to the days how I installed window 95. Not to that extend but similar feelings
Use Ventoy to that usb drive , so you can have all the distro installers you want.
I use Arch, by the way, but for a tiny virtual machine that I need to be super lightweight and fast. Beside of that, instead of spending tons of my time installing and customizing Arch as a desktop OS, I choose other distros that are preconfigured and work out of the box to save some time to be more productive.
Typing this on LMDE.
OMG... I wish so much I could have helped you do this! I use Arch Linux BTW, for about seven years now. At home and at work. On my server and in my homelab.
Nice editing! Also, I forgot how nice the XPS laptops looked
Awesome video, I know that you know Garuda is arch based. Installing arch the way you did taught me, there's still a lot to learn.
Wow a better more lively and brighter apartment... congratulations 🎉
Been using Arch for a year now after distro hopping many many times. It's great with a good window manager like Hyprland, I love it. Still dual boot with windows for gaming and some other software occasionally.
Installing Arch Linux manually was a great Linux learning experience.
Though i recommend doing it on a virtual machine first, get that to a usable state before you wipe out your disk for the challenge.
Ventoy works with Arch btw!
Brew install ventoy maybe...
or git clone it.
Works for me everytime.
I know I'm late to the party, but technically you could install Manjaro Linux, which is also based on Arch. But this is quite entertaining to see someone installing Arch from the base. You got a new subscriber here.
Coming from a half-Linux user (because my work PC is Windows and my gaming PC is Linux, so that's the reason on the half pun)
Manjaro sucks use endevor or cachyos as they are better arch based distros overall.
@@researchandthinkprimarily I've already migrated to Ubuntu even though it's half usable to me. Just using the PC as a web and gaming machine. Right now I'm happy with it.
I have no bootable device problem too and after i mount boot partition from my uefi bios settings it getting around 2 to 3 minutes to boot so i stop use it and i install Ubuntu by the way 😢
I use dell inspiron laptop ..
Arch is one of the best documented distros out there
I finally got a successful Arch installation to work a few weeks ago. Felt like beating a dark souls boss.
You don't need to redo everything, just boot the install media, mount everything under /mnt again, and call arch-chroot again and pick up where you left off. BTW, you forgot to install a boot loader (Either efibootmgr or GRUB)
Prime example why I used an Arch-based distro.
edit: unrelated, but your experience reminded me of when I try install Debian with no desktop so I had to install almost everything too.
13:58
What you can do here is
mount /dev/[your root partition] /mnt
Mount /dev/[your boot partition] /mnt/boot
Then arch-chroot /mnt
It's hard, but the instruction manual is robust enough that this is only a minor issue. I'm glad that games work on linux now or I never would have switched. It's a whole new experience and I feel like I own my computer again.
Hi Haliden, Arch seems far more difficult to install than Linux Mint Cinnamon. I didn't have to use the terminal or anything. I'm a novice when it comes to installing a new OS, but I like Cinnamon 22. There are a few bugs, but overall, I love it over the other 3 Ubuntu OS's I used.
I attempted to install Ubuntu on my previous laptop--a Dell, and it did not work no matter what I did. I couldn't change the boot schedule.
Yup. Most distros have a graphical installer which makes things easy. Arch linux also has an install script. You boot up into the live environment using the usb stick and then run the ‘archinstall’ command. It’s really easy and fast. Try it out in a virtual machine if you’re interested. Arch can be quite fun if you are into that sort of thing and you learn a lot about linux in general while getting things to work in arch. You can use that knowledge in your ubuntu or mint machine
Arch user here. I'm happy to help should you have questions.
That's why people don't use another distro after Arch. Cause it's so damn hard to install that you don't want to do it again
@Hallden please do a video using neovim and i3 for the work flow next , that would be great.
It would be a nice follow up video to this.
I had something similar happen with another distro on a Dell computer. I hit F12 on bootup, went to the bottom selection and switched from UEFI to Legacy, and after restarting, the system booted from the hard drive.
What a man, what a house! I love it.
I used ubuntu, kali, zorin, gentoo many many years ago and after seeing so much advancement and updates, Im giving it a go again this time around using pop! Os. Worst case scenario i have a backup of mint and windows 10 if i need to revert. Relearning linux from square one all over again. Should be fun and not a complete headache😅
bro forgetting to install boot loader and saying "I don't know what's wrong i'm doing" ....
Bro didn't even have a boot partition
@@Delta225 life
from where did you got "only one me" instrumental? i couldn't able to find it on internet!
just use Arch install script and will make your life easy
True, archinstall will make it easier... but @Hallden, you did a good job by doing the manual installation first! Doing so has the capacity to make you a much more educated and experienced Arch user, and will serve you well in the future!
But the point is not next-next installation. The manual way teaches you to unix systems and computers. You are understanding beheind the scene
@@egokhanturk But the point for most users is to get a working OS and do your job as soon as possible. I personally wouldn't use arch without archinstall, but there is no AUR on ubuntu, only stupid ppa/flatpaks.
If it actually works.
@@NotLiamH it does works, and i use it every time to reduce the suffering while installing arch
# archinstall go brrrrrr
I use archinstall btw
Now u can use arcoinstall. Much better than archinstall.
is it included in the iso?
@@sadakatu.tanzil yup. just type the command when booting the iso
did you look it up on youtube? @ 18:00
they should add a warning to the guide in the pacstrap section, now I always include netools, etc..
I use arch btw
14:04 those are just DELL problems i faced it too after a lot of trying it worked and i am using it for more than 2 years with no problems
i escape this problem use ThinkPad
1- you make super quality videos.
2- yeah, I liked seeing you suffer 😆
3- if you can use vim, you should have no problems with Arch 😊
Gentoo is harder to use than Arch. Arch can be installed just by running archinstall from the livecd
shh don't tell him that
Is there a decent guide to installing arch on a virtual machine? I’ve tried it 3 times and each one has gone ok but then either doesn’t have internet or is missing packages.
What about the touch command to create a new file and then append into it? Is touch by default available?
Instead of installing a text editor.
That works too
welcome to "I use arch btw" world
For linux, I have a problem with battery life when not plugged in, it drains too fast. Someone help me, please :((
Gentoo and linux from scratch considered much harder to do then arch
...but its harder to call them distros
Arch linux is like Lego or Airfix.
Some boys would want toys that work out-of-the-box, batteries included; some boys would rather enjoy the process of customising they own toys.
Nothing wrong with either, just don't complain about the other.
Arch is KISS (keep it stupid simple), Wiki is great... You see what happens when you don't read docs correctly and you don't read the logs
Arch has vim. I don't think any linux distro omits it at all. Run "vi", not "vim".
I installed Arch for the first time in about 2 hours (not including waiting for it to download). I didn't hit the same issues you've run in to. Hopefully Day 2 went better than Day 1.
to setup dhcp on any interface just dhclient enps0sXX or wlanXX that would make a dhcp request and configure the interface ip, the routes and /etc/resolv.conf
Hallden, would you have used the Arch Linux Wiki Manual? Or were there useful inquiries from GPT that helped/assisted in the process from start to finish?
If so can you provide them.
Eg. Configuration redundancy?
13:12 unmount not found… doesn’t check the output proceeds to reboot
Desktop environment (Graphical user interface) its a personal choice of each, but probably you should install KDE Plasma to get most from what Linux can provide on PC. Also GNOME is an option, but i feel like to this date KDE Plasma is more packed with features.
Watching this I had the same problems he had. I even used archinstall and still had problems.
nuke the desktop environment and install a window manager like Hyprland if you want the full experience :p
For the average user that only complicates it further. Bad advice for someone trying Arch for the first time. Look at the guy, even installing basic Arch is a pain for some people.
@stingfiretube dude you just install hyprland and kitty with pacman, boot into it and edit the config file, boom you got a window manager
Hi Hallden can you list your Playlist that you used here? Love your Work.