More pipe-dreams. Nothing new really, cargo bikes are only about 130 years old and in that time they have found very few real uses. I like the idea and they may have a place and serve a purpose somewhere but security is non-existent. Four guys could pick it up, fully loaded, and drive away.
20- years ago them first scooters were not practical to use as a work load vehicle. Strictly them scooter bikes were meant for kids of a minimum speed and range. Now, the batteries evolved to be practical to use as I myself uses e bike everyday for 20 miles and still have battery which 20 years ago I would of had to re buy every dam 3 to 4 months of the old lead acid ones. The new lithium has changed everything to having more people using e bikes as a norm.
Not only for cargo bikes but it also can be an innovative way for wheelchairs as the front or rear suspension design on the Gleam E-cargo bike or the Stroke cargo bike can make a perfect suspension for rigid frame sport wheelchairs. I'm a paraplegic that has gone through two wheelchairs and now on my third one as I write this message since the year of 2010 I've been a paraplegic And all thy wheelchairs I've seen and used all have stiff frames which is directly mounted or have an adjustable clip base on axel that can move forward or back depending on the center of gravity you like and even switch out with a carbon axel tube for a lighter chair. But like I said this would be an innovative idea for wheelchairs. Making this type of suspension, plus that amazing idea of it always be level. due to the awesome suspension we'll never need to worry of flipping sideways thanks to the Gleam escape cargo bikes suspension mounted on a wheelchair... how cool would that be... or take the bike idea and just put a wheelchair seat frame that could attract to the back itself.
Anything available today in the United States of America that we could just take this Sunday and go buy one or do we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and are you showing us stuff available in other parts of the world that we cannot order soon I have check some of these in the videos and they’re not available yet or at all in America
yeah this is pretty stupid. It has its place but if you think this is going to transform the entire logistical industry...Lol. before you say anything, i rode my e-bike every day to work. Having work with delivery/courier services before in my younger days, one person is expected to hit 30-50 targets a day and a package could be as heavy as 20-30 kilos. This measly e-cargo bike won't cut it and it only mean a logistic company needs 2-3 more workers to cover the range of a driver with a cargo van.
Ощущение что наша цивилизация деградировала лет на 90, начале 20 века было подобно. Велосипеды, велосипеды с прицепами, им на смену пришли автомобили. Только прошло уже 100 лет, у нас должен быть воздушный транспорт или новые источники энергии.....
The accent's not bad, he's actually very understandable. I don't know, but I'm guessing that the problem is that the writers didn't completely write out the script, and that the narrator doesn't know anything about what the specs signify.
whaat ....this armadillo kost 8000 ...damn...iam homeless..since three years and dont get new flat...since corona started.. this amadillo could be my complete home...🙏🙏🙏
///Тема интересная,так как теперишний вариант автомобиля просто огромный,занимает много места на дороге, но при этом там обычно 1 человек в 5 местном автомобиле.Это плохо.Но нужно развивать электрические транспортные средства именно с кабиной, при этом значительно меншего размера ,ширины и веса чем автомобиль.
You just could build a really light three or 4 whell car with an efficient 50 or 100ccm motor and all transportation problems would be solved. You could have done that since one hundred years.
There is a trade here. Lower the CO2 but electric motors produce Ozone. Before you come back at me, look it up. I learned about ozone, lighting creates ozone, electric motors has small sparks going on which creates ozone.
8000 € for the Vlove armadillo is dirt cheap . With it sophisticated suspension and high grade parts it's amazing they can sell it at that price .There are lots of EMTBs that sell for 8000€ and aren't any where near as sophisticated .
No , the VLove is a very high quality quad . it has been purchased by DHL and other big companies that were looking for machines that could take a lot of abuse .
I don't think people realize, the practicality of e-bikes. I can pull a trailer with little or not effort, even up hills. WHY we haven't gone to e-bike transport sooner...is beyond me.
@@justpassingthrough4802 In comparison to what? Car? Electric bike is way cheaper and healthier. Manual bike? Way more range and less negative impact of hills and stuff.
The problem is you can buy a decent used car for a price of an e-bike which is not even a cargo bike. Some cargo bike is more expensive than a cheaper new car. Something went wrong again. The idea was very good but on the process the greed destroyed the whole thing again or simply the small volume manufacturing is still a very outdated solution when you want to make average things for average people. The e-cargo bikes/motorbikes fate is the same like the e-cars. They are way too expensive for average guys, so their market is very limited and very small.
In India these non polluting tricycles should be used extensively, regrettably Indians won't prefer pedalling all they want a full fledged ev which runs on its own.
Dunno, but in my opinion, only Velove Armadillo looks somewhat credible for small cargo delivery. But choosing hydrogen fuel cell as a power source and providing no cover\shelter for the driver is...strange, at least.
sortimo cargo is not produced anymore. (actually produced by HNF Nicolai) concept was not really good enough to compeet. there is a different company with the same concept (pedalpower xloader). cooperating with a university researching for a selfriding cargobike.
why build a bike when you can just build a scooter that you can sit on. And have removable plug in battery on the trailer compartment, that you are pulling. That way you can travel long range or have long operation time. You can simply pull out the battery and install a new charge battery and off you go again.
In India these non polluting tricycles should be used extensively, regrettably Indians won't prefer pedalling all they want a full fledged ev which runs on its own.
I love ❤️ electronic bikes but the truth is the vast majority of charging is done through electricity that has been harvested via coal burning it’s just a fact and the weak cargo / towing capacity 🤔well it’s a nice thought 💭
These may work for local delivery in smaller downtown areas but they won’t regular roads. They’re too slow and will be more formidable for regular traffic to deal with on the road.
Merely tilting the wheels side to side is no use I guess someone needs to read my thesis on how you can tilt side to side but platform remains level to ground especially useful for food carriers
Hurrah...there IS Hope for Humanity with these wonderful vehicles! I pray there will soon be a "critical mass" achieved, & municipal infrastructure will reflect the vital need for these vehicles. Sure, not "smart" for folks stuck in "suburban sprawls", sadly, but PERFECT for Urbanites!! More, more... please!
Nice bikes when you go to the beach and take a few beers, and a towel with you. Without the car parking hassle. I just do not see any practicality for small shops or cafe's. Deliver me 5 casks of 50 ltr beer, 10 cases of coca-cola. 2 boxes of beer glasses, 20 ltr of liquor, 2 bar stools, 10 ltr. of cleaning agent, coasters, 4 boxes of deep frozen bitterballen, etc, etc.. Paying 20,- extra for ordering under 400,- worth of deliveries?
very cool bikes though i'll never use anything with hub motors they just can't climb hills especially at these low powers advertised(250-500watts) makes them flat ground limited, strictly mid-drive only and nothing short of bafang BBSHD an 52+volts(more volts = less amps = less heat build up = less likely to burnout ..... more wattage eg, 1000+watts plus gears means climbing hills and hauling weight is easier = less strain on motor and parts all this means more reliable vehicles/bikes) ........ i have built my own e-bikes started with hub very quickly upgraded to mid-drive now done a total of 33,700km (19,000miles) mids are far better .......
a) Most cities don't have hills. Or any serious hills to speak of. b) You can still take some serious hills with 250 Watt electric assist. Albeit, of course, slower than with a 1000 Watt electric assist.
@@wimahlers 🤣🤣🤣 a) wrong, there's a hell of a LOT of cities all over the world that are built on hills, try looking passed you nose b) wrong, 250w hubs can't pull the skin off set custard let alone climb hills will much more than their own weight c) you have no idea what you are talking about..........
@@arronjohnston742 For every hilly city you name that is a problem for a 250 Watt commuter bicycle I can easily name 10 for which it isn't. By the way, I cycled (and cycle) a lot. Among others I lived and cycled in Oslo, Norway. Did so on a peddle bicycle. No problem.
@@arronjohnston742 I owned and cycled on a 250 Watt commuter e-bike for many years. The Netherlands has the most e-bikes per capita in the world. Literally millions of e-bikes. Most, virtually all, e-bikes riden by the Dutch are 250 Watt e-bikes. As to taking hills with a 250 Watt e-bike see, among others: th-cam.com/video/OCQyQsYjmlA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/_TdjZ3Nuwyw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/_obRtdlg79Q/w-d-xo.html (Dutch: Hill test showing the difference between various 250 Watt motors. The difference being torque)
Quick reminder - CO2 is what plants breathe. Reducing CO2 emissions means killing plants. By the way I would like to see these bikes performing on snowy / rainy weather.
Quick reminder - CO2 is what plants breathe. Increasing CO2 emissions means killing plants. By the way you can see these bikes performing on snowy / rainy weather.
@@sureevennot3418 "And I wish you to ride 20 km on a bike in snowy day." I did and do. I cycle 50 km (2 x 25 km) every working day. No matter the weather. By the way, too much CO2 does shift the flora diversity in a negative way for us humans. That is the reality. See, among others: wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change_on_plant_biodiversity From source: "... Changes in long term environmental conditions that can be collectively coined climate change are known to have had enormous impacts on current plant diversity patterns; further impacts are expected in the future.[4] It is predicted that climate change will remain one of the major drivers of biodiversity patterns in the future.[5][6][7] Human actions are currently triggering the sixth major mass extinction our Earth has seen, changing the distribution and abundance of many plants. ..."
They'd work fine. I ride a cargo bike (not trike) to work year-round near Boston, snow, rain, whatever. For example, this is what no-hands on light, foot-packed snow looks like. th-cam.com/video/MhZ3SkcCKhU/w-d-xo.html My one-way commute is 10km, so if it snows, then I ride 20km on a snowy day.
Adjust your reader to pronounce the "wh" to Watt Hour.
More pipe-dreams. Nothing new really, cargo bikes are only about 130 years old and in that time they have found very few real uses. I like the idea and they may have a place and serve a purpose somewhere but security is non-existent. Four guys could pick it up, fully loaded, and drive away.
They failed until now because the infrastructure isn't build to provide any place for them.
That's a politic decision and not a permanent one.
20- years ago them first scooters were not practical to use as a work load vehicle. Strictly them scooter bikes were meant for kids of a minimum speed and range. Now, the batteries evolved to be practical to use as I myself uses e bike everyday for 20 miles and still have battery which 20 years ago I would of had to re buy every dam 3 to 4 months of the old lead acid ones. The new lithium has changed everything to having more people using e bikes as a norm.
Quais são os valores de cada Electric Cargo Bikes?
сдрассьти... бред сумасшедего!! это велосипеды со стоимостью ремонта как моя машина!
Not only for cargo bikes but it also can be an innovative way for wheelchairs as the front or rear suspension design on the Gleam E-cargo bike or the Stroke cargo bike can make a perfect suspension for rigid frame sport wheelchairs.
I'm a paraplegic that has gone through two wheelchairs and now on my third one as I write this message since the year of 2010 I've been a paraplegic And all thy wheelchairs I've seen and used all have stiff frames which is directly mounted or have an adjustable clip base on axel that can move forward or back depending on the center of gravity you like and even switch out with a carbon axel tube for a lighter chair.
But like I said this would be an innovative idea for wheelchairs. Making this type of suspension, plus that amazing idea of it always be level. due to the awesome suspension we'll never need to worry of flipping sideways thanks to the Gleam escape cargo bikes suspension mounted on a wheelchair... how cool would that be... or take the bike idea and just put a wheelchair seat frame that could attract to the back itself.
Very clever designs and they look great too.
they look great....in CA,NM,AZ, how about in snow, wind, rain, etc?
Anything available today in the United States of America that we could just take this Sunday and go buy one or do we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and are you showing us stuff available in other parts of the world that we cannot order soon I have check some of these in the videos and they’re not available yet or at all in America
200 kilograms? You could tow a nano house with that.
Yes, with a powerful electric motor, this is not much.
yeah this is pretty stupid. It has its place but if you think this is going to transform the entire logistical industry...Lol.
before you say anything, i rode my e-bike every day to work.
Having work with delivery/courier services before in my younger days, one person is expected to hit 30-50 targets a day and a package could be as heavy as 20-30 kilos.
This measly e-cargo bike won't cut it and it only mean a logistic company needs 2-3 more workers to cover the range of a driver with a cargo van.
I agree that legislation need some adjustment to allow for higher power and cargo load bikes.
Ощущение что наша цивилизация деградировала лет на 90, начале 20 века было подобно. Велосипеды, велосипеды с прицепами, им на смену пришли автомобили. Только прошло уже 100 лет, у нас должен быть воздушный транспорт или новые источники энергии.....
Tradução em Deus
I would have been interested in this if the commentary wasn’t so abysmal.
With all these designs, were is the protection for the most valuable cargo of all? The operator.
Too bad the editors can't find a native human speaker for these programs. You lost me at 7:56.
Lost me at 0:50
The accent's not bad, he's actually very understandable. I don't know, but I'm guessing that the problem is that the writers didn't completely write out the script, and that the narrator doesn't know anything about what the specs signify.
@@mikecurtin9831 The real problem is that it is not a human speaking. It's HAL in his new career.
@@unclegeorge7845 Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
whaat ....this armadillo kost 8000 ...damn...iam homeless..since three years and dont get new flat...since corona started.. this amadillo could be my complete home...🙏🙏🙏
///Тема интересная,так как теперишний вариант автомобиля просто огромный,занимает много места на дороге, но при этом там обычно 1 человек в 5 местном автомобиле.Это плохо.Но нужно развивать электрические транспортные средства именно с кабиной, при этом значительно меншего размера ,ширины и веса чем автомобиль.
I agree
Check out what B-Line is doing in Portland! These types of vehicles work great and can replace many many truck trips in cities.
You just could build a really light three or 4 whell car with an efficient 50 or 100ccm motor and all transportation problems would be solved. You could have done that since one hundred years.
There is a trade here. Lower the CO2 but electric motors produce Ozone. Before you come back at me, look it up.
I learned about ozone, lighting creates ozone, electric motors has small sparks going on which creates ozone.
Gleam and velove is 🔥
When the speaker has no idea what "W" means ...
Just say double-u instead of Watt :-)
Какой же это все таки бред. Деградация. Транспорт для маленького городишки с бедным населением и без ресурсов преподносится как прорыв... Глупость.
8000 € for the Vlove armadillo is dirt cheap .
With it sophisticated suspension and high grade parts it's amazing they can sell it at that price .There are lots of EMTBs that sell for 8000€
and aren't any where near as sophisticated .
sophisticated but does not mean it good quality. The bike is make with metal or cheap suspension that could rust.
No , the VLove is a very high quality quad . it has been purchased by DHL and other big companies that were looking for machines that could take a lot of abuse .
I love all of the designs!
Now I wonder if I can buy it for personal use.
is for a future without cars...
Why pedals! Is the physical effort of a delivery service no longer enough?: Regulations ! More and more ridiculous!
--Ultra-LOW COST
--Price of 11999 EUROS
WHAT?!?
I hate that robot-voice. Spoils the video for such a good subject.
I don't think people realize, the practicality of e-bikes. I can pull a trailer with little or not effort, even up hills. WHY we haven't gone to e-bike transport sooner...is beyond me.
Because of the weather? Ever tried to ride a bike when it´s cold and wet?
@@bluebear6570
You asked: Ever tried to ride a bike when it´s cold and wet?
Answer: Yes.
For the average person, I dont see the big advantage of having an electric bike.
@@justpassingthrough4802
Change your infrastructure from car oriented to human oriented, then you see.
@@justpassingthrough4802 In comparison to what?
Car? Electric bike is way cheaper and healthier.
Manual bike? Way more range and less negative impact of hills and stuff.
cool idea - great video 👍
kind of fun , from cars to bikes. looks we going backwards . in 50 years we be naked hunting with electric spear
What's your future vision? Tanks as cars, just because they are even bigger than SUVs?
@@alphastratus6623 everything was fine .before all of you Woke people came to fruit . All your we need ev crap
ok very good
The problem is you can buy a decent used car for a price of an e-bike which is not even a cargo bike. Some cargo bike is more expensive than a cheaper new car. Something went wrong again. The idea was very good but on the process the greed destroyed the whole thing again or simply the small volume manufacturing is still a very outdated solution when you want to make average things for average people. The e-cargo bikes/motorbikes fate is the same like the e-cars. They are way too expensive for average guys, so their market is very limited and very small.
Es lo mejor que he visto en cargo bike.
any serious delivery person would just go all electric, instead of trying to push 150 watts all day when batteries do 500watts.
In India these non polluting tricycles should be used extensively, regrettably Indians won't prefer pedalling all they want a full fledged ev which runs on its own.
Good summary of the Velove Armadillo
Where do you get the sustainable materials to build these bikes and batteries? Surely not from mining with machines run on petroleum.
Fair point, but compare the resource requirement of 1 tesla model 3 with a standard ebike... That's where the real difference is.
You can mine with electric power
Dunno, but in my opinion, only Velove Armadillo looks somewhat credible for small cargo delivery. But choosing hydrogen fuel cell as a power source and providing no cover\shelter for the driver is...strange, at least.
All of these bikes cost way too much.
sortimo cargo is not produced anymore. (actually produced by HNF Nicolai) concept was not really good enough to compeet. there is a different company with the same concept (pedalpower xloader). cooperating with a university researching for a selfriding cargobike.
why build a bike when you can just build a scooter that you can sit on. And have removable plug in battery on the trailer compartment, that you are pulling. That way you can travel long range or have long operation time. You can simply pull out the battery and install a new charge battery and off you go again.
In India these non polluting tricycles should be used extensively, regrettably Indians won't prefer pedalling all they want a full fledged ev which runs on its own.
I love ❤️ electronic bikes but the truth is the vast majority of charging is done through electricity that has been harvested via coal burning it’s just a fact and the weak cargo / towing capacity 🤔well it’s a nice thought 💭
Bonjour, pouvez vous m'indiquer le prix de cette machine à trois roues articulées et quel magasin en France les revends.😊
imagine if it was quicker and more informative to say watt hours, instead of the abbreviation doubleyeuw hatche Wh aaat? wow!
This is future ? How about buses with pedals for passengers ? HA-HA.
What regular people can afford 5000.00 dollar based price bicycles
The computer generated voice makes this unwatchable.
Don’t care 🤷♂️ I am never going to work for anybody
Robot voice. Turned off.
These may work for local delivery in smaller downtown areas but they won’t regular roads. They’re too slow and will be more formidable for regular traffic to deal with on the road.
Merely tilting the wheels side to side is no use I guess someone needs to read my thesis on how you can tilt side to side but platform remains level to ground especially useful for food carriers
Chat GPT4 garbage...
**# PORQUE AINDA NINGUÉM PERGUNTOU NO PREÇO$$$??? É SEGREDO??#**
NWO: “let’s get these and turn the world into Vietnam”
I hate AI voice over
it wasnt the brightest idea to try to take that large van like cargo bike down that narrow alley now was it
Bought bicycle but my knees gave up.
It's about time we go all electric..
wow
Jakarta ada yg jualnya dimana min ... 😊
I could haul so many bags of cans on that np!
Eventually we'll be seeing electric cargo bike drag races on the streets lol
1:27 wtf u need a kickstand for
Wau sepeda nya keren sekali👍
Brilliant video. Humans breathing don't mix with toxic vehicle emmisions.
👍
wagon wheels will always be a weak point
Yes goot
Brazil?
Hurrah...there IS Hope for Humanity with these wonderful vehicles! I pray there will soon be a "critical mass" achieved, & municipal infrastructure will reflect the vital need for these vehicles. Sure, not "smart" for folks stuck in "suburban sprawls", sadly, but PERFECT for Urbanites!! More, more... please!
Здравствуйте где можно купить и сколько стоит эти велосипеды
Здравствуйте. Лучше всех вам ответят производители, ссылки найдете под этим видео, на описаниях.
Sadly not in the US
спасибо
Nice bikes when you go to the beach and take a few beers, and a towel with you. Without the car parking hassle.
I just do not see any practicality for small shops or cafe's.
Deliver me 5 casks of 50 ltr beer, 10 cases of coca-cola. 2 boxes of beer glasses, 20 ltr of liquor, 2 bar stools, 10 ltr. of cleaning agent, coasters, 4 boxes of deep frozen bitterballen, etc, etc..
Paying 20,- extra for ordering under 400,- worth of deliveries?
Is every order this big or bigger? I know a plenty of local producers who sell by the boxes, not by the vanloads.
Not only are cargo bikes a great idea, they look cool af.
very cool bikes though i'll never use anything with hub motors they just can't climb hills especially at these low powers advertised(250-500watts) makes them flat ground limited, strictly mid-drive only and nothing short of bafang BBSHD an 52+volts(more volts = less amps = less heat build up = less likely to burnout ..... more wattage eg, 1000+watts plus gears means climbing hills and hauling weight is easier = less strain on motor and parts all this means more reliable vehicles/bikes) ........ i have built my own e-bikes started with hub very quickly upgraded to mid-drive now done a total of 33,700km (19,000miles) mids are far better .......
a) Most cities don't have hills. Or any serious hills to speak of.
b) You can still take some serious hills with 250 Watt electric assist. Albeit, of course, slower than with a 1000 Watt electric assist.
@@wimahlers 🤣🤣🤣 a) wrong, there's a hell of a LOT of cities all over the world that are built on hills, try looking passed you nose b) wrong, 250w hubs can't pull the skin off set custard let alone climb hills will much more than their own weight c) you have no idea what you are talking about..........
@@arronjohnston742
For every hilly city you name that is a problem for a 250 Watt commuter bicycle I can easily name 10 for which it isn't.
By the way, I cycled (and cycle) a lot. Among others I lived and cycled in Oslo, Norway. Did so on a peddle bicycle. No problem.
@@wimahlers lol you don't know a thing about e-bikes, just because you bicycle doesn't mean a thing... 250w isn't enough, never will be...
@@arronjohnston742
I owned and cycled on a 250 Watt commuter e-bike for many years.
The Netherlands has the most e-bikes per capita in the world. Literally millions of e-bikes. Most, virtually all, e-bikes riden by the Dutch are 250 Watt e-bikes.
As to taking hills with a 250 Watt e-bike see, among others:
th-cam.com/video/OCQyQsYjmlA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/_TdjZ3Nuwyw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/_obRtdlg79Q/w-d-xo.html (Dutch: Hill test showing the difference between various 250 Watt motors. The difference being torque)
Quick reminder - CO2 is what plants breathe. Reducing CO2 emissions means killing plants. By the way I would like to see these bikes performing on snowy / rainy weather.
Quick reminder - CO2 is what plants breathe. Increasing CO2 emissions means killing plants. By the way you can see these bikes performing on snowy / rainy weather.
@@wimahlers I will not debate the paranormal science of an alternate reality. And I wish you to ride 20 km on a bike in snowy day. Good luck!
@@sureevennot3418
"And I wish you to ride 20 km on a bike in snowy day."
I did and do. I cycle 50 km (2 x 25 km) every working day. No matter the weather.
By the way, too much CO2 does shift the flora diversity in a negative way for us humans. That is the reality. See, among others:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change_on_plant_biodiversity
From source:
"... Changes in long term environmental conditions that can be collectively coined climate change are known to have had enormous impacts on current plant diversity patterns; further impacts are expected in the future.[4] It is predicted that climate change will remain one of the major drivers of biodiversity patterns in the future.[5][6][7] Human actions are currently triggering the sixth major mass extinction our Earth has seen, changing the distribution and abundance of many plants. ..."
They'd work fine. I ride a cargo bike (not trike) to work year-round near Boston, snow, rain, whatever.
For example, this is what no-hands on light, foot-packed snow looks like. th-cam.com/video/MhZ3SkcCKhU/w-d-xo.html
My one-way commute is 10km, so if it snows, then I ride 20km on a snowy day.
@@davidchase3269 You confuse extreme sports with being a supplier.
In an ideal world with no hills
no hills or blizzards