Aclaration: Sorry, I messed up on 3:21! Skills don't have better chances of mutating into magic mastery, every rank 8 has the same chance, it works more like, by inheriting the highest weight skills (high weight = skills have more chance mutating into them, in my case brave blade and almighty amp) you completely remove that factor and indirectly skyrocket your chances of getting magic mastery! It works pretty much the same, but my wording can throw some people off.
I'm still confused The weights I understand, but what are the adjusted weights? They can't be percentages, as the total adds up to more than 100% Additionally, what if you are fusing two personas from two different packs? Which pack gets prioritized? I'm trying to get Almighty Amp and I'm having a rough time translating the calculator
you wanna focus on the "simple weight combiner" page, and just put the pack there, then whichever number is highest in column "I" that's what you inherit (make sure for them to be rank 8 skills)@@kemosonicfan123lbp
This is an INCREDIBLE breakthrough, just slightly too late for me. I have moved on from this game with 300 hours, probably my favourite game ever made (This or FES) and I just sat through the grind and got it on 4 personas, for each extreme element skill. But when I come back to this game for The Answer, I literally cannot explain enough how SUBSTANTIAL these changes in odds are. Transferring 4-6 skills all with a 25% +, I repeat, TWENTY FIVE PERCENT PLUS chance of changing into magic mastery is fucking INCREDIBLE!!!! I literally cannot thank you a enough, I will subscribe, like and share this video to my whole family (also huge SMT fans) so we can all get this skill far easier. I repeat, from an SMT veteran who knew there had to be some secret mechanics regarding skill changes, THANK YOU!!!
@@tuvieeclips 25 percent for skills which manipulate to specifically manipulate into magic mastery when using personas in the same arcana band no? Am I misunderstanding?
@@Megidolaon999 ok so here goes long explanation it's more accurate to say 1/200, to 1/400 it depends assuming they're the same skill, any skill is equally likely as any other to become magic mastery the reason which one it is matters is because some skills have higher weights, so if Magic Mastery is a 1.3/x then removing the higher weight skills means a smaller x For example, in my case by inheriting brave blade and almighty amp, I completely eliminate the chances of other skills mutating into them, which massively helps because they're the most common mutation for devil + priesstess rank 8 skills. you probably saw the weights themselves, and thought they were percentage chances not realizing it wasn't out of 100 and also not realizing that the weights were for "the odds that said skill is the result itself" rather than the odds that the source skill becomes magic mastery
My advice is to compare different arcana combinations in the mutations calculator. For example, hermit and fool = priestess, but also priestess and priestess = priestess. But the former only contains rank 8 skills with 21% spawn probability maximum, while the latter shows 2 skills with 35%. These are the ones that interest you to pass in fusion in order to boost your chances for MM. I was successful immediately when I took this into account.
Since we have seen the code now. Right before or on fullmoon the chance of mutation is higher and on a new moon the chance of an accident is higher. Also the more personas u fuse on the same day the higher the chance of a mutation.
Since you need diamond dust on goemon, that ends up there's only 3 rank 8 skills that must be mutated making the chances even more worse. I'm about to give, been trying for 4 days, Same path fusion as your video since I looked it up in the calc, passing these rank 8 skills: Diamond dust, Brave blade, God's hand and Almighty amp. LMAO I see Morning star and Heavens blade mutated too many times now.
i got heartbroken when i finally got magic mastery coz the diamond dust also got mutated into demonic decree.. i feel like maybe i would get an easier time getting a heavens blade on cendrillion..
Ok, I'm not 100% sure about this, so I want to make sure. Basically, fusing Personas from Packs 3, 5, and 6 and inheriting skills of ranks 7 and 8 will give a chance of one of them turning into Magic Mastery, with rank 7 skills being a 0.3% and rank 8 being 1.3% chance of turning into Magic Mastery. At least, that's what I saw on the calculator. Is that right?
@@tuvieeclips So, I just checked Pack 4 and noticed there were 0s across the board. Does this mean I won't be able to have a Thanatos with Magic Mastery? Because every single one of the Personas necessary to make him is of the Death Arcana, which is that pack.
So how would I go about getting Magic Mastery onto Orpheus Telos? What skills should I be giving it? I was at it for two weeks straight and to no avail, giving it one of every Severe spell, Morning Star, other high tier skills like Arms/Spell Master, Firm Stance, Ali Dance, even Magic Ability in the vain hopes that could mutate into Magic Mastery, but nothing worked at all
if I remember correctly Orpheus telos can't get magic mastery at all, for some reason some packs are locked out of being in the magic mastery mutation pool, I would suggest another persona to get it
it's kinda primitive at the time, and i couldn't copy the calculator myself to try and experiment another stuff, what i would suggest is try fusing pack 6 + pack 6 personas and inherit brave blade, almighy amp, god's hand and megidolaon
It's so annoying that the game itself still doesn't properly specify things that are stackable / caps ngl (also very annoying that you can't transfer magic mastery ~ driver elements too) Regarding the data you showed on 4:04, is that cap counting Makoto ultimate weapon that has already Magic Ability built in or nah? I do wonder what's the best setup for non-driver personas to max out the damage, including that weapon passive.
Does the fusion calculator work for special fusions? Lets say I want it on Orpheus Telos, how would I know what pack it is in since there’s 5 personas that fuse into it?
Explaining the spreadsheet in a video will kinda drag on for a while, specific combinations require very different stuff, I suggest you contact me or CTOBN via discord for more in detail questions
Based on "Simple Weight Combiner" tab, for pack 2 demons, I think Primal Force and Brave Blade has highest chance of mutating. But when I plug those skills into "Calculator" tab, it shows chance of mutating to Magic Mastery is 0. May I ask what am I missing? @@tuvieeclips
Does it stack with Amp and boost? I commented on this video and he said it does not? Would it also stack with Magic Ability? th-cam.com/video/fvaNqH5v7HA/w-d-xo.html
Wonder how much damage king and I would do if you replaced your first 4 moves with shift boost, shift amp, magic ability, and multi target boost. It’s even more overkill than it already is but that sounds so cool
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Aclaration:
Sorry, I messed up on 3:21!
Skills don't have better chances of mutating into magic mastery, every rank 8 has the same chance, it works more like, by inheriting the highest weight skills (high weight = skills have more chance mutating into them, in my case brave blade and almighty amp) you completely remove that factor and indirectly skyrocket your chances of getting magic mastery!
It works pretty much the same, but my wording can throw some people off.
I'm still confused
The weights I understand, but what are the adjusted weights? They can't be percentages, as the total adds up to more than 100%
Additionally, what if you are fusing two personas from two different packs? Which pack gets prioritized?
I'm trying to get Almighty Amp and I'm having a rough time translating the calculator
you wanna focus on the "simple weight combiner" page, and just put the pack there, then whichever number is highest in column "I" that's what you inherit (make sure for them to be rank 8 skills)@@kemosonicfan123lbp
@@tuvieeclips ty
Magic Mastery is so hard to get, that a video describing how to get it easily is worthy of being a premiere.
Bros explaining magic mastery like it’s diavolos stand 😭😭🙏🏾
😭💀
This is an INCREDIBLE breakthrough, just slightly too late for me. I have moved on from this game with 300 hours, probably my favourite game ever made (This or FES) and I just sat through the grind and got it on 4 personas, for each extreme element skill. But when I come back to this game for The Answer, I literally cannot explain enough how SUBSTANTIAL these changes in odds are. Transferring 4-6 skills all with a 25% +, I repeat, TWENTY FIVE PERCENT PLUS chance of changing into magic mastery is fucking INCREDIBLE!!!! I literally cannot thank you a enough, I will subscribe, like and share this video to my whole family (also huge SMT fans) so we can all get this skill far easier. I repeat, from an SMT veteran who knew there had to be some secret mechanics regarding skill changes, THANK YOU!!!
it's not 25%!
but it is definitely better than the usual odds, I'm glad it helps
@@tuvieeclips 25 percent for skills which manipulate to specifically manipulate into magic mastery when using personas in the same arcana band no? Am I misunderstanding?
@@Megidolaon999 ok so here goes long explanation
it's more accurate to say 1/200, to 1/400
it depends
assuming they're the same skill, any skill is equally likely as any other to become magic mastery
the reason which one it is matters is because some skills have higher weights, so if Magic Mastery is a 1.3/x
then removing the higher weight skills means a smaller x
For example, in my case by inheriting brave blade and almighty amp, I completely eliminate the chances of other skills mutating into them, which massively helps because they're the most common mutation for devil + priesstess rank 8 skills.
you probably saw the weights themselves, and thought they were percentage chances
not realizing it wasn't out of 100
and also not realizing that the weights were for "the odds that said skill is the result itself"
rather than the odds that the source skill becomes magic mastery
Ive been waiting for this!
My advice is to compare different arcana combinations in the mutations calculator. For example, hermit and fool = priestess, but also priestess and priestess = priestess. But the former only contains rank 8 skills with 21% spawn probability maximum, while the latter shows 2 skills with 35%. These are the ones that interest you to pass in fusion in order to boost your chances for MM. I was successful immediately when I took this into account.
Those chances are insane! Glad you finally got it, my friend.
i’m happy you finally got it 😊 amazing video
thank you for the constant support my man
Since we have seen the code now.
Right before or on fullmoon the chance of mutation is higher and on a new moon the chance of an accident is higher.
Also the more personas u fuse on the same day the higher the chance of a mutation.
You know where we going with this.
Aint that right?
LOOKII!!!!
Also is this formula only for mastery or for other skills like almighty amp as well?
also works for almighty amp but thats way easier to get
I got magic mastery on a Horus on a mutation on diamond dust
Since you need diamond dust on goemon, that ends up there's only 3 rank 8 skills that must be mutated making the chances even more worse. I'm about to give, been trying for 4 days, Same path fusion as your video since I looked it up in the calc, passing these rank 8 skills: Diamond dust, Brave blade, God's hand and Almighty amp. LMAO I see Morning star and Heavens blade mutated too many times now.
i got heartbroken when i finally got magic mastery coz the diamond dust also got mutated into demonic decree.. i feel like maybe i would get an easier time getting a heavens blade on cendrillion..
Ok, I'm not 100% sure about this, so I want to make sure. Basically, fusing Personas from Packs 3, 5, and 6 and inheriting skills of ranks 7 and 8 will give a chance of one of them turning into Magic Mastery, with rank 7 skills being a 0.3% and rank 8 being 1.3% chance of turning into Magic Mastery. At least, that's what I saw on the calculator. Is that right?
you got it, althought i'm pretty sure you need rank 8 and some packs change weight values, but as for a general run down, you got the idea
@@tuvieeclips So, I just checked Pack 4 and noticed there were 0s across the board. Does this mean I won't be able to have a Thanatos with Magic Mastery? Because every single one of the Personas necessary to make him is of the Death Arcana, which is that pack.
@@milesstorzillo7650 I'm not sure about specific personas, but yes there are some personas that can't get magic mastery at all
TY Omg 🐐🐐🐐🐐
So how would I go about getting Magic Mastery onto Orpheus Telos? What skills should I be giving it?
I was at it for two weeks straight and to no avail, giving it one of every Severe spell, Morning Star, other high tier skills like Arms/Spell Master, Firm Stance, Ali Dance, even Magic Ability in the vain hopes that could mutate into Magic Mastery, but nothing worked at all
if I remember correctly Orpheus telos can't get magic mastery at all, for some reason some packs are locked out of being in the magic mastery mutation pool, I would suggest another persona to get it
That makes a lot of unfortunate sense, because I was at it for weeks
im sorry for your loss man@@VerkatosEnsei
And since lucifer’s blade already has magic ability you dont need to put one on your elemental persona cool😊
indeed
@tuvieeclips I know this is about Magic Mastery, but how is that you have null to everything in that goemon when I see nothing to null everything?
omnipotent orb accesory from beating the secret boss
You should teach us how to use the calculator cuz my ADHD brain can't process it
it's kinda primitive at the time, and i couldn't copy the calculator myself to try and experiment another stuff, what i would suggest is try fusing pack 6 + pack 6 personas and inherit brave blade, almighy amp, god's hand and megidolaon
Trying get MM for Kaguya and Magatsu izanagi,the best i got is heaven's blade
for them it is possible i believe, i wish you the best luck brotha
Update: finally got MM on Chernobog mutation from diamond dust
@@rahmansepti540 ayyy, im glad
:)@@tuvieeclips
It's so annoying that the game itself still doesn't properly specify things that are stackable / caps ngl (also very annoying that you can't transfer magic mastery ~ driver elements too)
Regarding the data you showed on 4:04, is that cap counting Makoto ultimate weapon that has already Magic Ability built in or nah? I do wonder what's the best setup for non-driver personas to max out the damage, including that weapon passive.
I always assume by this point in the game people have Lucifer's blade
and yeah it is pretty annoying how much Atlus sucks at explaining builds xD
@@tuvieeclips thanks
Does the fusion calculator work for special fusions? Lets say I want it on Orpheus Telos, how would I know what pack it is in since there’s 5 personas that fuse into it?
the calculator itself i think it's not ready for more than dyad fusions, but it's actually easier to get magic mastery on special fusions
@@tuvieeclips I’ve definitely noticed this, especially because of how many skills can be inherited by specifically Telos
Is it possible to acquire magic ability through skill mutation or is that one really just exclusive to messiah and telos?
mutation, and very common
Can u share which persona u use to fuse to get GOEMON PERSONA TO MUTATE MAGIC MASTERY
i literally did in the video xD
How does your goemon blocks every kind of damage if it has no resist skills?
omni orb
@@tuvieeclips thank you, didn’t knew that item existed, im in late november at the momento
how are you getting diamond dust on goemon?
inherit only
Does full moon affect magic mastery chance?
it's hearsay, nor can I confirm or deny, but I did get magic mastery on a full moon
Can you have both magic mastery and magic ability?
yes, however magic ability shouldn't be in any build since the MC's ultimate weapon has it by default
tbh I would drop insta heal for stb or mtb
I was planning on putting st/mt boost but the damage cap has already been reached, so it would be wasted slots
Could you guide us on hoe tp read it i think i get it but sill am confused
it's kinda hard to explain, I didn't make the calculator myself so if anything i suggest reaching out to ctobn!
Yeah….. i can’t figure out how to read these spreadsheets, a tutorial would be greatly appreciated
Explaining the spreadsheet in a video will kinda drag on for a while, specific combinations require very different stuff, I suggest you contact me or CTOBN via discord for more in detail questions
Where can i find your discord? I also interest too but i don’t understand how to use this spreadsheet.
Based on "Simple Weight Combiner" tab, for pack 2 demons, I think Primal Force and Brave Blade has highest chance of mutating. But when I plug those skills into "Calculator" tab, it shows chance of mutating to Magic Mastery is 0. May I ask what am I missing?
@@tuvieeclips
some pack combinations can't get magic mastery at all, maybe try a different one and see if the error persists
Does it stack with Amp and boost? I commented on this video and he said it does not? Would it also stack with Magic Ability?
th-cam.com/video/fvaNqH5v7HA/w-d-xo.html
how do you make it nullify everything ??
omnipotent orb
Hehehe
2 of them
How to fuse goemon?
Wonder how much damage king and I would do if you replaced your first 4 moves with shift boost, shift amp, magic ability, and multi target boost. It’s even more overkill than it already is but that sounds so cool
it wouldn't affect it because damage cap has already been reached
Magic Ability isn't necessary because Minato's ultimate weapon has it
Wait
I thought they removed the damage cap in this game
@@homerlol9058 no, it's just higher
I give up
if it makes you feel better it's barely worth it
@@tuvieeclipsTY 🐐
Me who uses a mod to just easily get magic mastery 💀
i really didn't want to use mods, it felt wrong for me, however idc it's a single player game, enjoy your easy magic masteries XD
@@tuvieeclips I actually did the same thing but I gave up in the end since it is hard to get it the normal way and just used a mod 😂