Persona 3 Reload: The Reaper Level 16/Single Persona/No NG+ (Merciless) [No DLC]

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  • Thanks for the support on this video I noticed it sort of blew up with engagement which never really happened to me before! I love to break megaten games in ways nobody else does so if that's your thing feel free to stick around! I am currently the only one to have pulled off this strategy at all and especially at this low lvl
    Me and ‪@cantthinkofbettername5065‬ had been discussing strategies for a few different challenges, he's a dataminer and is always super helpful when calculating odds or looking into the AI of enemies and a bunch of stuff, after realising something about the reaper we knew it was hypothetically possible to manipulate his AI and beat him at the lowest possible level with no ng+. He also made the amazing thumbnail so huge shoutout to him!
    In comparison to my Lavenza Level 1 fight I'm unsure where to rank this. Possibly harder but hard to tell. I knew mathematically it was possible but it combines AI Manipulation and a lot of luck. I'll explain the strategy
    Whenever you are under an ailment like fear or confusion the Reaper will ALWAYS try to exploit your vulnerability with physical attacks so by keeping yourself feared with Weird Takoyaki the reaper will hit himself. The chance of being feared is very low and there is a high chance that with no ailment on you die, this took around 25 tries.
    The first half of the fight is fast. He'll open with some sort of move to exploit a team member usually Mitsuru and will Primal Force with a 1 more, usually this ends up with all teammates dead but sometimes one can live and very rarely I had all survive. His final move will be Heat Riser always. After he will spam single target phys moves as long as you are under fear.
    The second half of the fight he will start with an Insta-Kill then follow up with a single target phys and from then on providing you are feared he will use Akasha Arts or Vorpal Blade then follow up with an insta-kill. Homunculus is okay for surviving those however it removes your ailment so I chose Archangel for a specific reason. (You can also choose Gurulu at this level).
    Abusing mutations you can essentially choose almost any 4 skills in the game you want so here I chose Repel Slash, Repel Strike, Repel Pierce, Null Dark. Archangel naturally nulls Light so it would stop the homunculus taking away my ailments and creating more needless rng. If you choose Gurulu you'd go for Null Light instead.
    Then the other 4 moves must come either from the persona or skill cards so looking at the ones currently accessible I went for Arrow Rain and I will explain why. Rakunda to make the Repels deal more to the Reaper. Stagnant Air, this was supposed to increase the odds of items inflicting ailments however it doesnt seem likely, same with using Fear boost ring and Ailment boost which I had tried previously, the results seemed to be the same odds regardless. And the final skill was just a dodge passive but it never triggered in attempts ever.
    My Full Build:
    MC Level 16: (Can be as low as 14 mandatory fights only but I accidentally fought guardians without Akihiko and gained too much exp. I used the skip to reach the Reaper tutorial floor and missed out all Arqa part 2 guardians though)
    Archangel - Level 10:
    Arrow Rain (Sword 4)
    Rakunda (Sword 3)
    Stagnant Air (Sword 3)
    Dodge Elec (Sword 4)
    Repel Slash (Tier 7, Mutated)
    Repel Strike (Tier 7, Mutated)
    Repel Pierce (Tier 7, Mutated)
    Null Dark (Tier 6, Mutated)
    It takes a long process of fusing back and forth till your moves mutate up and up and getting money required for the items and personas necessary is tedious since you can only do a few fights and you need those for shuffle time cards so doing it this low is a very tedious and tight process.
    Equipment:
    Weapon: Gladius (+10hp)
    Armour: Rash Guard (Not important)
    Shoes: Inline Skates (+3 Ag but not important)
    Accessory: Earrings of Grit (Endure)
    At level 16 if you use the computer to give you +7hp and Gladius for +10 that takes your max hp over 200. This is important to lower rng as Weird Takoyaki heals for 100hp and you cannot use it to try and fear yourself if you are max hp. So you go into the fight at 1hp which allows you 3 uses till you reach full health instead of 2. Arrow Rain is the highest hp costing move we have access to at this part of the game so if we do reach max hp and are feared we can attempt to use it to lower our health to allow us to reapply a Weird Takoyaki after it wears off. Sometimes it's better to go for a Rakunda for the more damage especially if you have Endure left which will leave you back at 1hp and allow for more Takoyaki's. Theoretically it is possible without Archangel or Gurulu my original attempts were with Nekomata but the IKs taking away my ailments made the fight longer and much more luck intensive and it's heavily rng based as it is. You can go into the fight as low as level 14 like I said but really there is no difference in the strategy at all.
    Thanks for watching and enjoy more masochism! ♡

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  • @Ziroikabi
    @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +606

    A lot of people don't seem to know what skill mutations are or how it works. It's briefly in the description but I'm making this a pinned comment so I can just keep referring people to it. I will explain the full strategy in order to mutate anything you want at any level and how the Reaper AI works so anyone can try this for themselves.
    First just know it will take a lot of saving and reloading and second a lot of money. I did this at minimum level so up until this area it was a mandatory fights only run, with the occasional fight to gain skill cards once I hit Arqa. The Reaper spawns F62 first so you cant fight him lower level so by missing all fights possible I could stay low levelled. Once I beat Emperor and Empress I used the guardian skip method showcased in my other video to stop gaining exp from any guardian in the 2nd half of Arqa. Doing all this meant I barely gained money so in order to get money I worked jobs and smashed breakables to sell materials. 99x of all Thebel materials can net you over 100k yen in a single tartarus trip and that's excluding other chest items and when you hit Arqa you can get even more. After accumulating a ton of money you then fuse 2 personas. Any 2 it doesn't matter since the 4 skills I wanted are passives any persona can inherit them. You can use skill cards you have to fill empty slots in your personas to allow the full 4 moves to pass down.
    Essentially you save and fuse until a tier 1 skill mutates into a tier 2. Then you take this new persona and fuse it with anything else until that tier 2 skill mutates into a tier 3. Then 4, 5 and 6. Any time a mutation did not happen I simply reloaded to save money. Repel Passives are tier 7s so at this point it becomes a bit more tedious in that you need the mutation to be the exact skill you want but its the same thing you reset until the tier 6 mutates into Repel Strike for example. Now you can mutate another skill upwards and as long as every fusion you make sure to pass down Repel Strike you will keep it. Eventually after hours of resets you will get Repel Strike, Repel Slash, Repel Pierce and Null Dark. Null Dark is tier 6 so it's the same you just need to do it lower than the repels.
    Once you have all 4 moves I just found a fusion combination that ended with the result being Archangel and pass all 4 of them down and there is your triple repel Archangel. It's impossible to mutate more than 4 this low level but with special fusions you can do 5. But anymore than 5 is strictly not possible. The other 4 moves were put on via skill cards that are obtainable at this point in the game.
    Now for the fight itself. Essentially if you are under the fear condition (or any conditon that increases the probability of crits) the reaper will try to exploit you by ALWAYS using a physical move. He picks his move before his target so when solo it is exceedingly rare he will target your weakness normally. However when exploiting you his AI doesn't look for passives so here we use Weird Takoyaki in an attempt to keep ourselves under a constant state of fear. The 2 issues are it's a low chance to happen so this is very rng based even if you have the setup correct and if you are at full hp you cannot use the item. To mitigate the first one we enter the fight at 1hp to allow us 3 uses of Weird Takoyaki and give ourself a physical move, we use this when at full hp in order to drain it back down to allow us another use, there is luck in this too in that when under the fear condition you have a chance to not act. Any other time we have a free turn we use Rakunda to debuff the Reaper to make him take more damage. The first half of the fight he will use 2 single target physical moves of any type randomly with the highest chance being a Slash at 50.5%, Strike being 25% and Pierce being 24.5% except on a 1 more he will always Primal Force in this scenario.
    When you hit the last half of his hp he will use either Vorpal Blade or Akasha Arts with Vorpal Blade being a 50.5% chance and Akasha Arts being 49.5% meaning Pierce Repel is not needed at this part of the run since he will never use it. The problem with choosing a persona for this section is his second move per turn he will use an Instant Kill move which will always hit you. This isn't the end of the world as homunculus will save you, however doing so will remove your fear condition and that creates a ton more rng having to reapply fear every single turn so here I used Archangel as he naturally Nulls Light. Remember I can only mutate 4 skills maximum so my 4th skill is Null Dark to prevent insta kills from removing my status ailment. Then it's just pray that rng is in your favour. Hope that clears up anything ♡

    • @math_skill1
      @math_skill1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Just curious, did you reset for every single fusion that didn't mutate? The chance of mutation on a given fusion is multiplied depending on how many fusions you've done on the current day (up to 5x after 50 fusions), so it should actually save you time/money if you allow some failures.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I kept going if a different skill mutated so like say I was at tier 6 going for a repel and a tier 2 mutated to tier 3 I kept that since that would help with another. I knew about the mutation and accidents increasing every 10 fusions in increments but CTOBN who originally datamined it all told me it resets after a success so that would just mean more money wasted but potentially faster mutations since I wouldnt need to reset and could gain the multiplier. But honestly got a bit lazy and tired of smashing items to sell for money since that took such a long time and since I had a "low" amount I really need each fusion to have a mutation and count for something

    • @math_skill1
      @math_skill1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ziroikabi Hmm, the counter resets after a success? Strange, that hasn't been my experience... I can definitely relate to the "smashing items sucks" part though 🙃

    • @cantthinkofbettername5065
      @cantthinkofbettername5065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A few small corrections. For one, the counter resets each in-game day. I'm not sure when I gave the impression that it was after a success (or if it was before or after I figured out what the counter was), but I apologize for that.
      Second, a bit more detail on the Reaper's AI targeting. It will specifically check for if a party member has "Confuse" or "Fear" (though the distinction between that and what Ziro said is only relevant for getting Frozen/Shocked randomly or being dizzied after a knockdown, as you cannot self-inflict Distress). If that condition is met, despite only doing this behavior in response to Fear and Confuse, he will then lock himself into a physical move that targets a party member with any standard ailment (if above half HP, otherwise it's AoE anyways. Also "Standard ailment" in this case means excluding Downed, Dead, Orgia Mode, and Overheat).
      This means that (for example), if you have just a party member with Poison, he will not do this behavior. However if you have a party member with Fear and another party member with Poison, then he will do this behavior, but can target either of those party members.

    • @TheFakeMakotoYuki
      @TheFakeMakotoYuki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is fear the only debuff that weird takoyaki can give?

  • @tuvieeclips
    @tuvieeclips 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1545

    the fact that reaper fully went ballistic on mitsuru after her cool intro screen is so funny to me lol

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

      His AI seems to prioritise her first so 9/10 she'd die first before even getting a turn. Unsure as to why but sometimes it would let Mitsuru have a turn before the reaper it was rare but it happened this attempt. I wonder if it is due to her never having used her persona by this point but not sure. And that Junpei counter was amazing, the only time it ever triggered in all attempts

    • @cantthinkofbettername5065
      @cantthinkofbettername5065 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      @@Ziroikabi To speak from my PoV on this, this isn't a "seems to" thing. When the reaper attempts to target weaknesses (which he always does action 1 of turn 1), he will always check if Mitsuru is present before checking for anyone else, and if he detects someone when checking for weaknesses he will go for that weakness 51 times out of 101 (except for Ken, who he will always go for). In addition to that, if he fails the 51/101 all 3 times (which can only happen if Ken isn't present), the random attack he does instead is more likely to incidentally be fire than anything else (aside from Slash or Strike I guess), though the target for it in that scenario would be just non-null rather than Mitsuru specifically.

    • @jajathenewking6131
      @jajathenewking6131 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@Ziroikabinah the Reaper just targets her first, It happened to me just the other day.

    • @Majeedz93
      @Majeedz93 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she's just a girl

    • @feefington
      @feefington 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      "Let me show that i haven't lost my touch. LET'S GO! PENTHESILE- ⚰️"

  • @aerodynamo4874
    @aerodynamo4874 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +533

    The hilarity of the start holy shit, seeing Mitsuru have her initial "I'm far stronger than you'd ever believe" cutscene while casting Rakunda, and then being fucking annihilated with Agidyne for like 1600 damage 😭😭

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      I'm not quite sure why but occasionally Mitsuru would outspeed the reaper. It only happened a few times in all my attempts, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact she hadn't used her persona by this point but it's hilarious that both that and Junpei counter happened on the winning try

  • @JoaHosoi
    @JoaHosoi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1030

    Fuuka: you genuinely stand no chance! you need to run!
    Ziro: "give me 7 minutes."

    • @toasterfighter
      @toasterfighter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      "I only have 7 minutes to spare to play with you"

    • @saidbrizzo2187
      @saidbrizzo2187 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Seven minutes, seven minutes is all i can spend to play with you

    • @toasterfighter
      @toasterfighter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@saidbrizzo2187 7 minutes ago

    • @NaotoShirogane-ig6jz
      @NaotoShirogane-ig6jz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@saidbrizzo2187 If I am correct, that's a villain protagonist named "Albert Wesker" reference...

    • @saidbrizzo2187
      @saidbrizzo2187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@NaotoShirogane-ig6jz yeah you are correct naoto

  • @marioagainsttheworld6248
    @marioagainsttheworld6248 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1266

    I can only imagine being in Mitsuru's place: You just go back to the front lines, your field of expertise. The so called leader decides its a good ideia to fight a mighty enemy, you get knocked the fuck out and he somehow wins. I'd be flabbergasted 😂

    • @ZorkasIshmael
      @ZorkasIshmael 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

      Imagine Fuuka watching the whole thing confused between being horrified and grabbing the popcorn...

    • @REXZero00
      @REXZero00 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I be fearful of Doorkun.

  • @hk-47droid64
    @hk-47droid64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +414

    The "I'll Totally Crit Him This Time" Reaper.

  • @AriOfTheStars
    @AriOfTheStars 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1613

    Nah, I’d reflect.

    • @CalWhimsical
      @CalWhimsical 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      hi ari :3

    • @todeckeri
      @todeckeri 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      btw he actualy didnt die, so he stronger tham strongest

    • @SupremeLordBruv
      @SupremeLordBruv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Imaginary technique: megidolan

    • @todeckeri
      @todeckeri 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      reverse technik, helel
      cursed technik, satan
      hollow armagedon

    • @YukiSnow75
      @YukiSnow75 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not funny

  • @cantthinkofbettername5065
    @cantthinkofbettername5065 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +515

    Im still genuinely stunned that it worked out exactly how i thought it would.

    • @briandorough498
      @briandorough498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Im so confused lol how does archangel reflect all physical damage, block light and dark, and what does the takoyaki have to do with this? 😂

    • @briandorough498
      @briandorough498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      OH lol nvm im dumb. I just dont understand how you got all those moves so early on and what the takoyaki did, does fear manipulate his AI somehow?

    • @briandorough498
      @briandorough498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol. Nvm again. I see the video description 🤦‍♂️

    • @namieblinker5922
      @namieblinker5922 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      ​@@briandorough498 Being inflicted with fear and dizzy prompts the reaper's AI to use physical moves on the aflicted target to do a knockdown, you can get mutations for passive moves by doing fusions, so for example if you have a "dogde pierce" passive, it has a chance to evolve into "evade pierce", if you keep evolving it, it will reach "repel pierce", that process can be repeated for other 3 skills (since archangel is a low level persona, it can only evolve a max of 4 skills, but high level personas can evolve 5).

  • @Patameuh
    @Patameuh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +781

    When developers rewards you for making the impossible.
    Bro really went from lvl 16 to lvl 99

    • @Thelowestofthelowtiers
      @Thelowestofthelowtiers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

      Fuuka leveled up to 99 as well. You got a maxed leader AND a maxed navigator with a useful therugy.

    • @witheburning8756
      @witheburning8756 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      How is that possible ? I beat the reaper at lvl 80 and I got only 10 lvl

    • @heeho8929
      @heeho8929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      @@witheburning8756 experience is split among each living party member, so finishing the fight solo basically quadruples the experience gained

    • @witheburning8756
      @witheburning8756 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@heeho8929 oh ok thank you I didn't know, maybe I should use this to get lvl99

    • @canaldeumdesucupadoaleator853
      @canaldeumdesucupadoaleator853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Wow, i still didn't fight him in reload. Thats a hell loat of xp is more than the otter games right?

  • @mismis3153
    @mismis3153 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +455

    Gigachad junpei countering the reaper though...

    • @dinaradisaputra6021
      @dinaradisaputra6021 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      He's da man

    • @howisthis8849
      @howisthis8849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      i was level 60 fighting the reaper and Junpei *killed* him with a counter
      never took him out of the team afterwards, he's DA MAN

    • @Eternal_light85
      @Eternal_light85 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      common junpei w

    • @brettwilliams522
      @brettwilliams522 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lasted way longer then I expected he would lol. He do be the goat

  • @cringeposting435
    @cringeposting435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    "why are you hitting yourself? why are you hitting yourself?"

    • @alwayschill4522
      @alwayschill4522 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this comment

    • @Jimmeeehhh
      @Jimmeeehhh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your barrier's the one hitting me!

  • @somecrappyname
    @somecrappyname 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    Lvl 99 fuuka is so actually nice!!! Cause a lot of sp for scans and full access to her abilities

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      We don’t understand how rng works in reload yet but if we found a way to manipulate skill mutations like in persona 5 and 4 this could become part of the speedrun. Not just for level 99 early on and access to Siegfried but also like you said all Fuuka abilities early would make tartarus much faster as well!

    • @lenblackquill8608
      @lenblackquill8608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Ziroikabiwhy Siegfried?

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@lenblackquill8608 Siegfried is easily the best middle tier persona in the game. He competes with all the level 80+ super personas while just passively learning good skills for a slash build. He absolutely destroys bosses and takes little time to make so the speedrun just levels up his social link and boom you use him for the entire game once you get him

    • @thunderstar7682
      @thunderstar7682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@lenblackquill8608also he’s a necessary unit for unlocking one of the best theurgy moves in the game.

    • @Shotgungunshot1
      @Shotgungunshot1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lenblackquill8608No idea if the speedrun does it… But Siegfried with the right build and the Scarlet Havoc Theurgy (which he helps unlock) just straight one shots every border floor boss.
      Plus you can get him much earlier than the other busted Personas

  • @lucaslovellette2140
    @lucaslovellette2140 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    That 9 damage from junpei carried you holy shit. They don’t call him Da Man for nothing

  • @Neltharak
    @Neltharak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

    The reaper hitting you with evil smile while on 1 hp and unfeared was clutch, what a bro, lmao

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      I honestly thought this attempt was going to fail he usually tentarafoos quite a bit in the first half but I never had him evil smile me at all then twice in the same fight was pretty insane

  • @russellhtf6969
    @russellhtf6969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    You really made Mitsuru's first fight back in the field against the Reaper ☠️

  • @kingcrimson2615
    @kingcrimson2615 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    “Orpheus clip that sh!t” 🗣️🔥

  • @hoangvu6326
    @hoangvu6326 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Eat some weird ass takoyaki, fight the embodiment of Death, and win by doing nothing.
    Truly a gun Jesus moment.

    • @TreyDobe
      @TreyDobe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sounds like something Luigi would do.

    • @waves2378
      @waves2378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wait, I thought *TAKAYA* was gun Jesus.

  • @hexy_boi
    @hexy_boi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    The skyrocket to lv 99 is crazy (ik you get ridiculously more xp from fights where you underleveled but its still wild)

  • @C4AZ3_Kaze
    @C4AZ3_Kaze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Fuuka just casually watchin as makoto uses 1% of his power

    • @andytan2960
      @andytan2960 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      By eating food, sure enough

  • @Haleazy
    @Haleazy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    bro's arcana is an uno card

  • @Shotgungunshot1
    @Shotgungunshot1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Your strategy here was really impressive, and the amount of prep to do this is insane…
    That being said I think Junpei was the real MVP of this fight.

  • @3xbt7
    @3xbt7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    i decided to look at your channel after seeing this vid and like… man i thought i was starting to get somewhat knowledgeable in persona and your channel completely humbled me 😭 great job though!

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Lmao thanks I appreciate this a lot! I just feel like 99% of popular persona videos are generic build videos or min max things which, while cool to see isn't really impressive at all. I'm not exactly great at content creation but I just like doing dumb challenges that nobody else will do and comments like this always make my day and motivate me to do more!

  • @Jafsey
    @Jafsey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    “Let me show you that I haven’t lost my touch” *dies instantly*

  • @jionmallick5902
    @jionmallick5902 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Damn not getting a Megidolaon spam after all the Repels is insane. Crazy good manipulation of the Reaper's AI.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      Fun fact he will only Megidolaon in 2 situations (that i know of) If the first move his turn was Virus Breath the second will always be Megidolaon. Or if he used Concentrate the prior turn.
      But since we are feared which gives a high chance for him to crit us the AI will try to exploit that and only spam physical moves. His AI actually picks its move before the target so it never checks for passives or attack/magic mirrors. Even with my strategy it involved getting lucky with self fear and took around 25 attempts total

    • @jionmallick5902
      @jionmallick5902 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Ziroikabi I've seen that his AI is a lot more forgiving in Reload. In FES if you used Tetrakarn or Marakarn he would immediately cast Megidolaon to bypass that, and while I never used Tetra/Mara or Attack/Magic Mirror in Reload due to being single member-only, Ken's Divine Intervention Theurgy in Reload doesn't trigger Megido despite essentially fulfilling the same purpose.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah in FES you can just use Thunder Reign or Thunder Call to cheese him then. But that requires you be a high enough level to get Thor or Odin. Mutations work a bit different in FES compared to Reload but I may try and do a minimum possible level reaper win on that too

    • @osamah5498
      @osamah5498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​Giga chad fes' reaper vs negative infinite iq royal's reaper​@@jionmallick5902

    • @keetosyamba7
      @keetosyamba7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Ziroikabi, what is mutation? I didn't understand even after reading the description.😅 Is it a shuffle time that gets you cards or what?

  • @Shiroyasha2704
    @Shiroyasha2704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    It's crazy to see this level of thinking and AI manipulation, I loved this. Congrats for making it doable!

  • @inanewbugatti
    @inanewbugatti 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    "persona 3 reload is a hard game" persona 3 reload:

    • @redhood7778
      @redhood7778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Other versions weren't either. Persona 3 is the easiest in the franchise.

    • @CantHandleThis6
      @CantHandleThis6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@redhood7778Cap

    • @xaviersejour9183
      @xaviersejour9183 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Reload is Brain dead. Never really see the game over screen unless bad luck

    • @adopted996
      @adopted996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Think I only saw the game over screen in the original like 3 times, maybe I'm misremembering but I don't remember it being very difficult apart from some bosses​@@xaviersejour9183

    • @cryptidcloud
      @cryptidcloud 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      delusional ​@@xaviersejour9183

  • @DeadByDaz
    @DeadByDaz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Love the thumbnail

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      CTOBN made it for me, who also datamined the game he did such a great job of it!

  • @tuviaso
    @tuviaso 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    from a simple idea to an actual doable strat, this is wild

  • @Xevailo
    @Xevailo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Impressive! And I salute you for actually taking the time to explain everything about this setup, so others (like me) can learn from it! :)

  • @the.creature.has.escaped
    @the.creature.has.escaped 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'd like to imagine after this, everyones just looking at the mc like '... how?' and hes just as emotionless as always.

  • @Rusted71
    @Rusted71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Bro said stop hitting yourself 💀

  • @Cinsvids
    @Cinsvids 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Seven minutes. Seven minutes is all I can spare to play with you.

    • @brendansage6876
      @brendansage6876 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      GOATed Resident Evil reference

  • @jhxe
    @jhxe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Nah, I'd [Repel Slash]

  • @Not_Alanius
    @Not_Alanius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The irony of the Cups Minor Arcana card after the battle is just-I can't put it into words.

  • @htmlguy23498
    @htmlguy23498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So impressive !! Good job !

  • @ShioSatou
    @ShioSatou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    p3r really is the game of all time.

  • @brendansage6876
    @brendansage6876 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fuuka: "No! You don't stand a chance!"
    Makoto: "Don't worry, Fuuka. I have an ace up my sleeve..."
    _pulls all three Repel Phys skill cards out of his jacket sleeves_

  • @hahapoorguy
    @hahapoorguy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like that reaper helps you with fear by himself

  • @Persona-Fan-n6c
    @Persona-Fan-n6c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is surprising me a lot. Honestly I could never do this!!!.
    Keep up the great work!!! ❤❤🎉🎉

  • @MrPanda4441
    @MrPanda4441 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What is Junpei doing? His best.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      He did a great job. That counter activating near the start was actually the only time it ever happened in all my attempts at it haha

  • @UltearM
    @UltearM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is actually insane wtf. Completely new game and vanilla

  • @kershkomlev4440
    @kershkomlev4440 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fuuka going completely insane while all her friends getting annihilated. And Door-kun (while under fear): "trust the process"

  • @KhaosMerX
    @KhaosMerX 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As is tradition, Mitsuru dies in one hit to fire no matter the equipment...

  • @outcast5732
    @outcast5732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    “Wow, you destroyed that guy without even touchin him 😵”

  • @revenge425
    @revenge425 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    You stand no chance
    Mitsuru: I am far more in my element here, let me show you that I havent lost my touch
    proceed to die 2 seconds later 😂

  • @samufranco995
    @samufranco995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mitsuru: I'll show you that I haven' t lost my touch
    Reaper: So survive my agidyne

  • @jj209th6
    @jj209th6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So i can tell you manipped the ai into using physical moves with fear. But would you have lost if he'd used 1 more magic attack?
    Still crazy that this is possible though, and Mitsuru dying immediately like that after her cutscene is hilarious

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah. I had earrings of grit which endures 1 hit but it got used up. As long as I kept feared it was fine he would only use physicals (insta kills as well if he was in phase 2) whenever it wasnt on I was at risk of dying essentially

  • @Deadude_
    @Deadude_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you do the most insane things and i’m all here for it

  • @emperorkiva8063
    @emperorkiva8063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Me watching the video:
    USE A MAGIC ATTACK OR SOMETHING YOU STUPID AI

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

      We purposefully fear ourselves so the AI tries to exploit your vulnerability with a physical move to crit you so as long as fear is active he will never ever use magic

    • @emperorkiva8063
      @emperorkiva8063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Ziroikabi Ohhh I see it now

    • @howisthis8849
      @howisthis8849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      theres a similar exploit in P5R, where you use a ring of gluttony to force the reaper to spam megidolaon every turn.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@howisthis8849 a lot of bosses have that. It’s not really an exploits its just ring of gluttony gives you a mirror for an attack. A lot of secret bosses will just spam almighty if you have a mirror up to bypass it

  • @derrickmacklin9458
    @derrickmacklin9458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is absolutely marvelous

  • @lautael5299
    @lautael5299 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congrats, that's a great strategy

  • @AzukalexixEvolution
    @AzukalexixEvolution 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Arahabaki is proud

  • @Guppys_hair_ball
    @Guppys_hair_ball 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Finally hes almost dead- GOD DAMMIT"

  • @KaptainFalkon
    @KaptainFalkon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love how brain dead the comments on this video are. Yes, the game is extremely easy if you "exploit" the extremely rng heavy Skill Change system in fusions with a less than 1 in 20 change rate while constantly rerolling skills until you miraculously get the THREE skills you absolutely need for this to work (which took 25 attempts according to the video) so a ton of save scumming is required for this strat.
    PLUS, knowing the weird datamined ai shenanigans of The Reaper and how he interacts with very specific ailments that you couldn't know without a tremendous amount of trial and error without looking it up.
    You guys are definitely 5D chess masters and aren't pulling shit out of your asses. I swear to god SMT fans think they are the greatest RPG players who ever walked the earth and when someone comes up with a genuinely impressive workaround that took hours and hours to do your first thought it "GAME EZ. GAME BROKE 👎🏼"

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@KaptainFalkon the battle itself took about 25-30 attempts with the setup. Mainly due to Weird Takoyaki having very low odds to self fear. The save scumming mutation chains took hundreds if not thousands of resets, basically more time than 99% of the player bases entire game time just to get these mutations. (Literally over 100 hours)
      First had to do minimum battles possible which was easy, then when this section of tartarus unlocked because this floor is the earliest the reaper spawns. I had to do the alt tab pc skip I showcased in my other video that allows you to skip past all the tartarus guardians of that zone by inducing lag to bypass the fight triggers. I could have done it for Thebel guardians too however due to exp scaling if you do 0 fights before Priestess and Emperor & Empress using the skip you actually get more levels in the end
      So then i needed to get over 100,000 yen without doing any battles for all the fusions I was going to need to do and rebuying personas back from the compendium. 99 of every thebel material from breakables gives around 130,000 from selling.
      Then generally if you get a mutation it goes up 1 tier. (Not always sometimes it can go up 2 in rare circumstances or sometimes it will drop a tier or stay the same tier but most often it increases a tier)
      Because I’m a low level eventually the persona im mutation chaining on reaches my mc level so I then need to actually stop chaining 1 fusion before then fusion accident and pray i get a very low level persona i can chain again. Accident results are entirely based on -10 -> +1 of MCs level (ingredients dont matter)
      Sadly due to the save loads I don’t have an accurate exact time this took but I’d argue this is more impressive than my challenge run when i beat the game solo, orpheus only, mandatory fights only, merciless.

    • @KaptainFalkon
      @KaptainFalkon 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Ziroikabi That's what I was thinking as someone who did a second playthrough, actually delving into min maxing this time around and holy balls the rng is so bad for so many skills. I cannot imagine how long it would've taken at such a low level with limited resources. The tedium had to have been the hardest part of the challenge for sure.

  • @swame
    @swame 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! @cantthinkofbettername5065 is the real Fuuka, isn't it?

  • @caeruleumluna9630
    @caeruleumluna9630 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is interesting. How’d you get a tier 7 skills to mutate for, when the earliest you can get a Tier 7 skill-having Persona is on level 40 (Vidyaraja’s Blessing from DLC’s Cendrillon)? This is according to the fusion calc’s skill list table ofc

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Skill mutations. Fuse 2 personas to upgrade the tier by 1. Fuse off the result to something else till that upgraded move mutates again to higher tier. Lots of save scumming and time was involved obviously. And you can only pass down 4 moves at once so the maximum I could have is 4 moves being the 3 repels and 1 null dark. The other 4 moves were skill cards obtainable that early

  • @KorehaMugen
    @KorehaMugen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro took all the exp for himself

  • @leothelion6323
    @leothelion6323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Me who thought that beating reaper on level 50 was badass 😅😅😅
    Never thought of using takoyaki or musle drink to do that
    Great job on showing the reaper who's boss 👍👍👍

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are a madman.

  • @TheAzulon
    @TheAzulon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meanwhile in the background you can hear "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself"

  • @SilentVinyl
    @SilentVinyl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Certified "why are you hitting yourself?" build

  • @kemosonicfan123lbp
    @kemosonicfan123lbp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Level 99 from 1 fight lmao

  • @MuhammadZafri-kn7br
    @MuhammadZafri-kn7br 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    im on lvl 39 now i can fuse girimehkala with some repel but for some reason he weak to dark can we withstood those attack eventually?
    edit: i don't really want to waste all my money on those endure accessories so will muscle drink useful for poison?

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Poison doesn’t increase crit chance so it wont manipulate his AI into going for phys. You can farm homunculi to stop yourself dying from Light/Dark insta kill but using homunculus removes your ailment making it a ton more rng because in phase 2 you’ll need to spam reapply ailments every turn. (The odds of getting a self inflict ailment is around 20% so its very luck based even if you only need to do it once every 4 turns)
      He usually will just Primal Force on a one more so theoretically you dont need to block light and dark buuutt its luck based even with blocking it so without your chances are likely worse than 1/5000 odds of a successful attempt

    • @MuhammadZafri-kn7br
      @MuhammadZafri-kn7br 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ziroikabi i don't wanna spend my life grinding for money but thx anyway👍

  • @ARCEUS493ZELDA
    @ARCEUS493ZELDA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    and here we thought reaper flu in the original persona 5 was funny

  • @howisthis8849
    @howisthis8849 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fuuka isn't a true believer😔

  • @TigeriPlaysGames
    @TigeriPlaysGames 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the reaper is super susceptible to AI abuse! on my first time, i realized i could keep a team member poisoned the whole time so he wouldnt use any other status moves that could rob me of a turn, just do his very managable damge

  • @phillippeandpheather5379
    @phillippeandpheather5379 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could say that he decided to REFLECT on his actions.

  • @delifresh221
    @delifresh221 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we must now acknowledge that archangel is the new mf who repels physical

  • @humber2512
    @humber2512 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing...
    Btw you misspelled "Theoretically" in the last paragraph of the description.

  • @SolidArc91
    @SolidArc91 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t get how you got the repel skills. What do you mean by fuse?

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You fuse 2 personas till you get a skill change and they mutate. Repeat this for 100 hours (not joking) and you eventually get them

  • @ThisIsActuallyJiji
    @ThisIsActuallyJiji 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Stop hitting yourself!"

  • @camomilia
    @camomilia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hello!!! i think i understood pretty much everything from the description and the pinned comment but i still have a doubt... in the shuffle time, how did u get the j level of cards if u barely fought just 2 boss (so having just few arcanas cards) ?
    thx u so much for any response, this channel is so interesting :-)

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You automatically get J shuffle times from beating the reaper since he is a special encounter. He’s classed as a final block enemy
      Edit: You unlock new major arcanas from doing Monad but the rank of the cards themselves is never effected by that its purely based on the enemy fought (or +1 if arcana burst is active)

    • @camomilia
      @camomilia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ziroikabi oooh i didnt know about that! i thought the only way to raise cards' level was to "fill" all the free spots on the down left, then with the last card u get the new letter
      still tysm!!!!

  • @ZI5H4N
    @ZI5H4N 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Active suicide risk makes a reaper unalive himself

  • @canaldeumdesucupadoaleator853
    @canaldeumdesucupadoaleator853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funy how low % runs are usually harder than normal runs, reeper low% need so much preps

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh definitely. Speedrunners can get to endgame in around 10 hours on merciless. It took me MUCH longer than that just to do the mutating alone. Even a casual playthrough would likely be faster to fight the reaper lol

  • @pawep2966
    @pawep2966 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Two megidoloans and It would be over in instant xD

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Thanks to AI manipulation he would never megidolaon. That's why we fear ourself on purpose so he thinks he can exploit you with a physical move and it just repels back

  • @Swig4578
    @Swig4578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nah bro definitely paid the reaper.

  • @TreyDobe
    @TreyDobe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought the Reaper would randomly use an Almighty elemented attack or maybe I'm thinking of P5 I guess.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He only uses Megidolaon in 2 states. If he is concentrated or his first attack was Virus Breath. He never checks for mirrors or passives in reload lol. There are also a bunch of AI checks he does when someone is feared but Atlus made it a guarantee to attempt to crit and put that as the priority. So none of the other AI checks ever happen lol

    • @TreyDobe
      @TreyDobe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Ziroikabi I gotcha and that's neat to know!

  • @icookchildrenandeatthem9085
    @icookchildrenandeatthem9085 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brokeback Tartarus

    • @SaviorOfEdge
      @SaviorOfEdge หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man of culture

  • @IrvingIV
    @IrvingIV 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you stranger.
    That button will eventually be mine.

  • @hollocatt
    @hollocatt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi!! i just wanted to say thank you for this video ^^ I've just finished getting all the skill mutation needed and apparently save scumming helps a lot instead of trying to keep doing fusion if the previous one didn't get you one!! (wasted a lot of money)
    but i did get a lot of great skills and actually got a lot of magic mastery (i did reload my save tho so i didn't waste money) but now I'm just grinding more money to buy the accessory and I'll update if necessary! thanks again!!

  • @ReksSlater
    @ReksSlater 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg that lucky with the last evil smile

  • @SportsGaming-ll3ru
    @SportsGaming-ll3ru 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “No shadows detected”
    Yea and no friends :(

  • @typhlosino6426
    @typhlosino6426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The ammount of brain power this took was so clever I was surprised

  • @cryptidcloud
    @cryptidcloud 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bro is a god

  • @VypxQ
    @VypxQ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Junpei did his share

  • @Kamui_Merc
    @Kamui_Merc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro that was so badass

  • @Luzent
    @Luzent 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Babe wake up, new reaper cheese just dropped

  • @acelolee_
    @acelolee_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    didn't know that this was possible lol. and those monstrous exp 😂

  • @thebannedking1107
    @thebannedking1107 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “OUR LEADERS IN DANGER”
    “… smh gimme a minute”

  • @winster32
    @winster32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reaper: *breaths*
    Me: No u

  • @Delta_Fox7
    @Delta_Fox7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HOW DID HE MANAGE TO ONLY USE PHYSICAL ATTACKS??? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE??????????
    Edit: I just read the description and I am amazed, you deserve a subscription. Congrats 👏👏👏

  • @rerolol
    @rerolol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this might become the new meme for mitsuru.

  • @broderickbusch9641
    @broderickbusch9641 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude this dude made the reaper embarrass himself with skill issues. That’s mad skill and dedication for max swag

  • @mentos124
    @mentos124 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    IS THAT THE GRIM REAPER??????

  • @MIDO44444
    @MIDO44444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got my ass beat by the reaper and now I see a lvl 16 beat it, never felt like having a massive skill issue as much as this one xD

  • @ijscnb
    @ijscnb 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think bro got beyond protect

  • @SaviorOfEdge
    @SaviorOfEdge หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:04
    "Haha, one!"

  • @Snowy_is_sad
    @Snowy_is_sad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of the cringy comments are making fun of Kirijo for some f***ing reason while I’m just trying to mimic the strategy

  • @lewis9s
    @lewis9s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m guessing having a status effect causes the Reaper to use physical attacks which then allowed you to repel them and with Archangel naturally having null light, you just needed null dark to complete the build that would nullify his light and dark spells. A surprisingly effective strategy indeed.

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeh any ailment that gives increased crit chance like fear/confusion/distress. We use fear since you cant have full hp to use any heal item and confuse would mean you never get a turn to act so you need turns to use a hp cost move to drain your own hp on purpose. And distress while good cannot be self inflicted. Luckily weird Takoyaki gives fear while only healing 100 unlike every other ailment heal.
      You dont need to null light and dark since homunculus work but insta kills remove ailments which creates more rng. So either Archangel with Null Dark or Gurulu with Null Light work here

  • @Zkeleton969
    @Zkeleton969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does reaper really not use fire/elec/wind/ice? Talk about a design flaw, it would be nice if superbosses could “cheat” and see your resistances to always avoid them

    • @Ziroikabi
      @Ziroikabi  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He does. He has heavy variants of every attack in the game. I and a friend datamined his AI and found a flaw with how it works when an ally is feared/confused/distressed. They give a crit rate increase and the reapers AI will try to exploit that by using physical attacks. Thats why I spam Weird Takoyaki to try make Makoto feared on purpose so the reapers AI will mess up. Any turn im not feared has a high chance for instant death. The description and pinned comment go into more detail about mutations and how to manipulate his AI