I’ve lost consistent high range due to numbness and swelling of the lips. I’ve used a Bach 10.5 for a long time and recently switched to 7C thinking maybe I needed more room to buzz. Any suggestions on what to do?
had a stroke and my range is gone. just listening in for some tips. playing out on the street in my wheelchair is my only way to survive now and some days i can't even make a sound. starting back out with pedal tones trying to get my face flexible again. it's a long hual. i had no medical help, but the first thing i got moving was my valve fingers. hope i can get my chops back. thanks.
thanks, can use any help I can get even just some good vibes (hey, vibes sounds like a safe instrument, too bad I don't have some vibes, a wuss could play those without stroking out haha) at this point, some days I sound pretty good now, and some days I can't get a decent sound out at all lol.
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I just want you to know that I hit an F above the staff for the 1st time in my life with almost no effort just by making this adjustment. The next day I went even higher! You changed my life! 🎉
A week with tongue arching, and my range is a full sixth higher, and more effortless. This tounge stuff... I thought i was just born to not play high. For 20 years i thought that. Thank you ❤
If Im being honest its the night before my audition for the top band at my high school and Ive been struggling with my two octave scales and wondering why I cant get high and that tongue arch thing literally just increased my range by like four nots and theyre easy to get out and I cannot thank you enough actually a lifesaver
OMG, this technique is awesome! I watched this video just a few hours ago and already feel massive improvement! Still can't climb over my highest note, but I can stay there forever. After watching this, third octave C feels like second octave F!
Thank you for this video. I have been discouraged over endurance and range issues in my playing recently, and this gives me hope for my progress and helps me with the way to achieve it. Many thanks.
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Hey Kurt, this video and visual demonstration of the tongue arch has helped me immensely in the really high notes coming out effortlessly. I'm an advanced player with strong chops but just a slight adjustment of my tongue under my lower teeth made my Martin Committee soar! Thanks bro.
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Kurt: Don Reinhardt taught me tongue arch and lip compression, ( rolling in and rolling out). He also taught me diaphragm compression. He warned against over breathing, also, as you do. You are absolutely right and correct. Good work.
Doc Reinhardt did? Hmmm that is contrary to what other Doc students have told me. He was more of a pivot man, wasn't he? and upstream type player I think
Hi, I have a question - I've been working on the tongue arch and found it really useful - after struggling with high notes for years and being told just 'air' and 'muscle' and strength exercises not really helping me, this is really awesome! Just wondering - when tonguing crisply the tongue tip needs to be at the base of the upper teeth not at the base of the lower teeth (gum line), and I can't maintain a tongue arch with the tip of my tongue up there - how do you get around that? Should I be able to? Thanks!!
While TONGUE ARCH is employed, you can NOT tongue with the tip because the tip is anchored behind the bottom teeth. So, we tongue just a little bit up from the tip where the bend starts to happen. This bended part of the tongue acts as the secondary percussive attack against the roof of the mouth just behind the top teeth. Yes, it takes time and skill to master this so it sounds like normal SINGLE tonguing!
Excellent advice. Your comments at 6:12 completely true. I think for some players who don't need to play high regularly they end up neglecting tongue arch and just let chops do the work but as you explain this limits them for going high and even if they can play high they have poor endurance. Then when they need to go high there's too much pushing on face, squeezing etc. going on. I've been there. I still sometimes fall into that trap. I think what's helped me is doing more of those lip trills but getting tongue arching to do most of the work not chops.
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@Swedishnbkongu OMG! I can't believe I saw your comment. I played for over 30 years until a skiing accident about 10 years ago where I bit completely through my upper lip. The plastic surgeon did a good job of fixing the look,. But I'm left with a ridge of scar tissue in my upper lip. It completely ruined my embouchure. I've been looking for others with similar injuries to see if they've been able to overcome them either through adjusting how you play or by medical procedure. It kills me to not have played for so long now. It was SUCH a huge part of my life. I can still play but my range and tone suck. Feels like almost like I'm starting over again. And maybe that's the answer. It's just so frustrating to go from where I was back to where I am now. Anyway, just wanted to reach out to you.
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This is such a great video. Not only on content, but presentation. “Try to not let the higher note come out.” That is going to have the student learn it with a goal in mind. Wonderful. I play for a living and am going to put your concept into my practice routine to make some minor changes. I subscribed. Well done!
Holy crap! Talk about the right tip at the right time: I've been working on technique a lot recently - practicing the Clarke exercises and scales to increase range and fluidity as well as double-tonguing them to get my articulation up to scratch. This was excruciating at first but is starting to feel more natural and relaxed, partly as a result of discovering 'Anchor Tonguing'. This is tonguing by 'anchoring' the tip of the tongue behind the bottom row of teeth then pronouncing the 'Tu' with the arch of the tongue (the medial-dorsal surface) It turns out that this is what I started doing naturally, before discovering that it is advocated by some top masters, including Clarke himself!It allows you to tongue without breaking the air stream, leading to a real fluidity. Then after watching this video I tried it for high notes and oh my...increased my range instantly! High C/D feels effortless with this technique. The best bit, however, is that I can use the identical tongue position for both techniques, meaning double tonguing high notes just became about 10 times easier!!!!! Total revelation!!
I've been experimenting with this technique, but I can't figure out how to maintain tonguing if the tip of my tongue is anchored to my lower teeth. I typically tongue to the roof my my mouth. Is this incorrect? A hangover from learning flute first? Cheers.
If you are tonguing in the upper register, you end up tonguing with the forward bend in your tonuge, UNLESS...you are double or triple tonguing up there...then it's all chops!
I enjoy playing low parts on trumpet and you have helped me in the higher range were I would start to thin out in my sound but I'm switching over to tuba due to my skill and enjoyment in playing low parts thanks for the help :D
My man…. I’m 42 years old. I was a hell of a trumpet player up until I was 22 when I quit. I was technically great and my tone was great but I could never hit the upper register worth a damn. I would hit lesser skilled players who could but o swear they were gate-keeping. I just came across this video twenty years later and applied the tongue arch and now I’m shitting out double G and C… god damn, thank you!
I stopped playing in Freshman year, and then now ten years later, I've picked it up again and for the life of me I couldn't remember how to make those high notes. This helps a lot.
dude!!!! You explain it way better so far I got more sound with you but I still have to build out of the red so it takes time My teacher makes me feel incompetent as a newbie. I' mgoing to follow what you say and then surprise him. I need time
My new year's resolution was to get to double high C. Since I began to focus on my range I've gotten a few notes higher. Right now Im at F over high C. I've been stuck there for months, but the high register I had when I began (Bflat to D) has gotten so much more powerfull and less brittle
I have a question, so, one day, I could play high (for me) hitting a double g and a, but the next day and the next week after that, I can not play a note like high c. Although I did warm down that day and I have a continuous warmup that I use everyday. Thoughts?
Haha same bruh you get some lucky days as well Well I haven't been getting unlucky days My problem was based on my stress and pressure on lips I am filled with stress so I can relax now without any pressure on lips and play nicely with a nice high range with a rich tone I don't about your problem
lol I still haven't arrived at that age yet! However, in my early 20's they started to get a better quality sound and more power....mp to mf. Now it can be ff to fff. Difficult to be consistent up there. Bud Brisbois and only a handful of some others were what you would call consistent
I mean I'm only a senior in high school and what this mam is saying is 100% true. highest I can play right now is around a high C and D sometimes E I have played Double G before many times but Still working on it. believe me it takes smart practice and patience. just be careful don't over practice. take breaks when needed. don't hurt yourself. it takes time and practice.
Joseph dont try to give advice unless your comment makes sense, you just said that the highest you could play is a high c d or e. A double g is two notes above that. By double g if you mean the first one above the staff, that is a high g and not very high. Once again, check your facts before you try to help people with them.
On some good days, I could play high high Bs and Cs effortless while on some bad days I could barely play high high Gs, a note that I play frequently and should not be a problem. Any particular reason why this happens?
Well, gotta tell ya: THAT? Is the very challenge in playing a brass instrument. It is the plight of ALL brass players. You can watch the most celebrated brass musicians of all time have a bad day on a performance and really screw up many things....it just happens
I recognize this... I play trumpet for almost 7 years now... Just since a few months my amazing first chair players all left and all of a sudden now I'm playing first chair with a friend of mine at equal level. We feel responsible to pick the section up and want to get really better. As said above, I recognize this problem but I seem to have it even worse than anyone I know. Usually my reach just gets to the high C and D, but I have had days where I could barely play the E below. Also I can't get a good sound and before you hear the note I play you hear like air blowing through, if you get what I mean... Any tips to play just a little bit more consistent?
I've been playing roughly the same time as you and I know exactly what you mean by, "air blowing through". I don't get this too often - probably 1 or 2 times per month - however, probably because I don't regularly practice; only 3 hours worth from 2 days a week. It could be that you are overworking, however I would not recommend following my routine. If not, then it could be something psychological.
Yes, what he is saying is very true, I'm going to be a freshman this year and I'm already in first chair just because I've practiced so much, my band teacher is a wood wind player but my chorus teacher has a major in trumpet, he taught the brass players the process but many of them didn't practice it enough
Hi Kurt, i have decently sized lips and i tend to get ulcers on the inside of my bottom lip. Do you think this would be caused by too much pressure, incorrect embrouchure or my lip size.
Maybe all 3, but more than likely your body is too acidic either genetically or by using too much spice, jalapenos, chiles, etc... Try a double dose of tagamet for 2-3 days and see if that evens out the acid and helps those canker sores diminish
I have a question I've been playing for 8 years and didn't get the right technique taught to me( like embrouchure)I was taught to play dead send her in the middle of my mouth so with the arch of the tongue that I'm trying to do how what I do tonguing wow doing the arch with my tongue?
Hey Kurt, very, very beginning student and in my 60s. Seems my tongue goes naturally into an arch, but then, also, the sides of the tongue curve forward. So the tongue arches, but in addition the sides of the tongue come forward, so the tongue is curved but in two dimensions: up and down and forward. Good? Bad? Indifferent? Thanks.
I appreciate this video being made my dude. I’m getting back into playing trumpet as there was nothing more than to be better at my first instrument. Finally picked one up (Yamaha 2320) and am stoked. Was ironically called out here with playing high. I failed the G scale every week during our scales test my freshman year in intermediate concert band because I refused to let it beat me and give in to going low G (another challenge later). Your video reminds me how rewarding working towards the goal is and hope it influences other up and coming players to do the work.
Hi, I tried your method, but if I attack a note with my tongue touching my lower teeth instead of my upper teeth, the sound is very dirty and not controlled. Maybe because I've never done it before. But all the teachers and books told me to touch my upper teeth. Also, for the lower notes I need a flexible jaw, and the tongue arch creates an obstacle to the free jaw. So Can I use the tongue arch only in the upper register? How can I connect the lower and upper register if they have different tongue positions? I need a pause to change the tongue position in this case
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE Now I am studying on my own, discovering new methods like yours, that is why I ask questions, because it is different from how I played before
Thanks for the video! Just wondering how to do you achieve sharp, pure tonguing with your tongue anchored? I have always used the tip of my tongue at different heights to control the pitch and this has allowed for sharp tonguing, i will try this technique later though!
I have never had a good range at all so I would imagine that is why. I tried this today and certainly found higher notes required less pressure but the notes sounded muddy :(
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***** i really dont know...Like i said my band doesnt practice outside of marching band season...i dont know about everyone else but i wanna audition for a band...and the way i sound now will not be acceptable for a college...ive made region band...#9 chair and i auditioned for all state missed by a chair...so i wanna make sure i make it next time...i have to get better Show less
In 6th grade I did band and I quit and I'm in eighth grade and I wanna do band again next year but I played clarinet and I forgot mostly everything about band. I wanna try trumpet. Should I take lessons and try to do band next year?
Sure why not. Get some lessons with a local trumpet teacher for a month and then decide if you like it enough to put in the practice to be able to get back in band
Well in my band I don't think anyone can get back in the band if they quit which I will never quit band I'm about to get trumpet p1 I'm p2 right now Edit: I'm now in six grade and I've been in band for 6 years.... I started in first grade
It’s up to you, but you have to be sure this is what you want to do, it’s not fair wasting ppl time, if you love playing then excel, if you just like it than you’ll just quit again, your at that age were you can excel to have professional quality skills but you have to really want it, hard work is the key and determination 😎🎺
Great! Soon after some attempt, I have succeeded in raising from middle C to middle B, just varying the leve of tongue tip, without any relevant lips effort! Thanks a lot for your impressive instructions !
I am mainly a sax/keyboard guy and pick up a trumpet occasionally on the gig to play a few simple things, nothing elaborate. I've messed around with the trumpet since high school and I can hit high "C" most of the time but rarely use it on the gig, "A", "Bb" is usually the highest I'll venture. Also my mouthpiece placement is hopelessly to the right of center, always has been always will be; that will never change. So I had my doubts about trying this technique. Just five minutes ago I played a middle "G", arched my tongue, and a "C" popped out immediately, the very first time trying it. I couldn't believe my ears. It was truly a light bulb moment and gives me some hope that even a misfit like myself who plays off to the side has some chance of increasing my range, even at the ripe old age of 60! Thanx Kurt!!
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Believe me, if I ever decide to attack the instrument seriously, I will sign up for whatever you're doing chief! Right now i got my hands full trying master the tongue arch. It manifests itself much easier on the low notes, though in my first practice session yesterday I was able to get a high "Bb" to pop up to "C". Then I went to "C" and the "D" wanted to come out, but not just yet, more practice, more chops!
It takes a lot of practice to get it to work and I notice it's more difficult the higher you go. But I have increased my range by two notes now and can get C# and D to come out reliably. Don't think I'll ever need to go higher than that, thanx for everything man!
i am 11 and i just got my trumpet yesterday and i have no idea how to play it and the high notes are the most easy notes for me.... what is your point??
Hi, Kurt - Something really amazing just happened to me, and I’d like to know what you think. I was whistling while I was waiting in my apartment door / hallway (great resonant space) for the delivery guy to come up. I noticed my mouth felt much different, much stronger, and my whistling has improved! Do you think it’s because I’ve picked up my cornet again and started gradually (carefully) developing my embouchure?
TRUMPETSIZZLE I guess you’re right at that, aren’t you! Ha! Doing everything I can to start building chops on the cornet after not playing trumpet for 30 years... Going great. Would like to dash-about NYC with my horn every day, but my vintage OHSC is too bulky Obsessed over a gig bag, obsessed some more... Like the Ritter Sessions because it’s so lightweight and contoured... However, I couldn’t wait, so today I toted my horn, mouthpiece and stand to work in my well-padded backpack... Mission accomplished: After work, I sat on a bench at Broadway and West 94th Street and noodled away, off and on, building chops and resting... Holy cow, is this going to be a good strategy! Tote the ‘net about, treat it with care, and play a bit every chance I get. Fun to see the ear-training/intervals kick in, once I know what song and key I want, popping out a song impromptu is getting easier and easier - NICE!
i used to be able to play high but after 15 years i lost most of it picked it back up about a week ago so im back i the process good video thanks for uploading
Wow, it really works! Granted, it will take some time to get the same control, tone and volume for the new register, but dang if it doesn’t really make notes up there easy! Thanks! Wish I’d learned this like 40 years ago!
Hey quick question, I fall into the category of players who have never used the tongue arch before, and I've done so because I was never able to get it to work properly. I've tried many times over a couple of years to figure it out, but I still to this day have had no luck. I've just now tried doing the exercise at around 11:50 in the video, but all I've gotten out of it is a really thin sounding "G". Any tips to help develop this skill from the ground up? Thanks so much.
I am a trumpet player about to go to my 2nd year of college and my range I good at around a double g or so what would you recommend me do to get that maynard style in a way?
Great ! After some attempts, in a minute or less, I have succeeded in raising from C to B just varying the level of the tongue tip without any increase of air and lips pressure !
So, middle school jazz band, all the first chairs graduated and we have a bunch of 7th grade trumpets, first year in jazz, E on the staff was rather difficult. Fast forward to December of that year, I can hit double high G with some consistency (I’m first chair) and the others aren’t far behind. I completely agree with what he says though
How do you use the tongue arch without cutting off the air? I hate the headaches. It's so draining. On horn, I use angles to pop out high notes, but on this collegiate holton trumpet with Bach 2.5 C, It's just not working. My sound is too thick.
Great advice, just like my trumpet tutor in 1966-69 taught. My past experience includes trumpet 5th grade through sophmore-college, bands, stage bands, youth symphony, mastering Arban's method, Claude Gorden, etc. I just retired from my engineering (day) job, bought a beautiful Charlie Melk refinished/valve aligned Conn 28B similar to my old trumpet. I will definitely look you up if/when I need help-lessons.
I list my confidence after an injury , from over practicing, and it took me 6 months to play above the staff. Years later, as the 2nd trumpet solo improviser guy I am starting to play high again after discovering a more efficient mouthpiece and with systematic practice . It has to be fun and it takes careful planned practice.
How long did it take you to get the first C above the staff? I've been playing for about 3 years now and am constantly wondering if my technical difficulties come from a lack of chops due to my recent start on the horn, or wrong playing (though the more I read, the less a "correct, universal embouchure" seems to be.) About that tongue arch thing, I focus on it but It feels weak at a certain point. It seems my chops get in its way sometimes. Know the reason?
Let's see high c? Maybe the summer before my Junior year. Yes, at this stage in my life I know most of the reasons players encounter certain difficulties...
Kurt Thompson It might be that I'm not tightening my corners enough during my long tones, because when I try lip thrills, my embouchure isn't stable enough to support the air pressure (from e to g above the staff) . Does that make sense to you?
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You are arching your tongue to far in the back instead of up near the front. So, you are blocking off the air and causing it to shove right up and through your nose. Kinda like when you swallow coke or a drink, but then laugh, burp or whatever....that drink comes out your nose!
Yes Sarah, you should work on bending the tongue closer to the tip. Remember, the tip is anchored and touching behind your lower teeth so focus on the bend (arch) right there instead of back in your throat!
I’ve realised that I push my trumpet harder to my lips when I try to push out higher notes. Is that bad? And how would that be helping me get higher notes?
Any chance you have an opinion. I played for 20 years pushing in. over the last 5 years I've stopped pushing in and freed up air flow. BUT, the damage I sustained when.pushing in has left me with nil capacity to pay bottom g to low g in performance. ie free flowing air. I need to use my push in technique which mentally changes my air flow idea. with the exception of these low notes I can blow a range over 7-8 octaves. I have started playing pedal tones with air. (Greg Spence Australia). How do I retrain my lip muscles for this low range. (If I was to pay an advanced Arban etude with my.new technique is impossible because of no.low range. If I use my old technique in can get close to.perfection but I would move my lips for every note)
I am currently in the summer going into my senior year of high school, I have played lead for a year in my schools jazz band, what sort of things would you recommend to improve my range from around high D to E to into the double octaves? What techniques and books would you recommend for someone at my level?
OK. OK. OK. I finally clicked subscribe! I must say that you do an excellent job of explaining difficult concepts in a very accessible manner. I wish I'd known some of this stuff all the years I struggled to develop range using an improper framework, which as you know DOES NOT WORK. Alas, most band instructors don't teach these things correctly, or at least, they don't emphasize them enough.
i can see why a lot of players cant play high but what happed when you can only reach a G and the tone has degraded to where it sounds like a bunch of pops instead of a steady clear vibration? i have tried different positions, more top lip, less, roll in roll out. i used to have a decent tone but it just ended. ive been mpc buzzing, free buzzing and the callett method and nothing lasts. sounds airy. any ideas?
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE its been 50 years since horn lessons. im 63 and did fairly well for decades. i stopped for a few years but am back again. one day about a year ago, things went south. this airy sound started in and its never been the same. i can get a few lower note songs on the flug but anything over an e is really awful. the horn really makes this popping airy sound stand out but is somewhat covered with the flug.
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Kurt I'm having real trouble with the arch. it feels like I'm doing it but still nothing happens. when I try to play a G and arch to a C I'm still playing a G. Anyone have tips?
Hard to give tips on this unless I watch you play by video and you are studying with me. You might try Low C to Middle G. Otherwise there are other options, but I need to spend time with you to see what you are doing incorrectly.
You need to focus on many other things besides range if you can play a double G. etudes, tonguing, style, tone, power, dynamics, accuracy, multiple tonguing just to name a few. Are you getting top scores and solo and ensemble festival? Are you first in everything you try out for: regional, all county, mid state bands???
+Kurt Thompson Hey can you please help me with the "process". I wanna get better but the band director i have doesn't teach us. So i try and teach myself. I'm first chair because i take music very serious. But i wanna get better so, can you help me???
+Young Thug NO SIR . That is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY TO MUCH Effort .. You don't need that . I've been playing trumpet for 3 years . That's never happened to me
my band teacher always points us the trumpets out he killed my dreams and i will still keep p going because i can learn improve i can get better one of the fellow trumpets already switch
That was me in high school and college. I had really strong chops and could play up to the high D consistently and strong all night long, but could go no higher no matter how much I practiced. My E sounded exactly like when you played with no tongue arch.I think I was just muscling all that with a ton of air and chops now lol. Never once had one of my instructors mention tongue arch before. Thank you for the explanation, really excited to start practicing this as I'm getting back into the instrument as a comeback player
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I’ve lost consistent high range due to numbness and swelling of the lips. I’ve used a Bach 10.5 for a long time and recently switched to 7C thinking maybe I needed more room to buzz. Any suggestions on what to do?
had a stroke and my range is gone. just listening in for some tips. playing out on the street in my wheelchair is my only way to survive now and some days i can't even make a sound. starting back out with pedal tones trying to get my face flexible again. it's a long hual. i had no medical help, but the first thing i got moving was my valve fingers. hope i can get my chops back. thanks.
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thanks, can use any help I can get even just some good vibes (hey, vibes sounds like a safe instrument, too bad I don't have some vibes, a wuss could play those without stroking out haha) at this point, some days I sound pretty good now, and some days I can't get a decent sound out at all lol.
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Bob Martin - work on ur core....working with expanding and strengthening the abs and lungs....u can do it....never say never.
Adapt the mindset of "achieving" ! Then slowly....step by step...."achieve" it.
I just want you to know that I hit an F above the staff for the 1st time in my life with almost no effort just by making this adjustment. The next day I went even higher! You changed my life! 🎉
Glad I could help
A week with tongue arching, and my range is a full sixth higher, and more effortless.
This tounge stuff... I thought i was just born to not play high. For 20 years i thought that. Thank you ❤
Glad it helped
If Im being honest its the night before my audition for the top band at my high school and Ive been struggling with my two octave scales and wondering why I cant get high and that tongue arch thing literally just increased my range by like four nots and theyre easy to get out and I cannot thank you enough actually a lifesaver
Very kool...glad it helped!
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OMG, this technique is awesome!
I watched this video just a few hours ago and already feel massive improvement!
Still can't climb over my highest note, but I can stay there forever. After watching this, third octave C feels like second octave F!
Great to hear!
Thank you for this video. I have been discouraged over endurance and range issues in my playing recently, and this gives me hope for my progress and helps me with the way to achieve it. Many thanks.
You're welcome and keep us posted on your progress!
Great thanks.
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Hey Kurt, this video and visual demonstration of the tongue arch has helped me immensely in the really high notes coming out effortlessly. I'm an advanced player with strong chops but just a slight adjustment of my tongue under my lower teeth made my Martin Committee soar! Thanks bro.
Glad it was helpful!
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Kurt Thompson yeah I’m in band with braces and after a few weeks I could get my high C again
Kurt: Don Reinhardt taught me tongue arch and lip compression, ( rolling in and rolling out). He also taught me diaphragm compression. He warned against over breathing, also, as you do. You are absolutely right and correct. Good work.
Doc Reinhardt did? Hmmm that is contrary to what other Doc students have told me. He was more of a pivot man, wasn't he? and upstream type player I think
This is by far the best resource I have seen for properly explaining what is wrong and how to fix it. Thank you very much
Very kind...Thanks!
Hi, I have a question - I've been working on the tongue arch and found it really useful - after struggling with high notes for years and being told just 'air' and 'muscle' and strength exercises not really helping me, this is really awesome! Just wondering - when tonguing crisply the tongue tip needs to be at the base of the upper teeth not at the base of the lower teeth (gum line), and I can't maintain a tongue arch with the tip of my tongue up there - how do you get around that? Should I be able to? Thanks!!
While TONGUE ARCH is employed, you can NOT tongue with the tip because the tip is anchored behind the bottom teeth.
So, we tongue just a little bit up from the tip where the bend starts to happen. This bended part of the tongue acts as the secondary percussive attack against the roof of the mouth just behind the top teeth.
Yes, it takes time and skill to master this so it sounds like normal SINGLE tonguing!
Excellent advice. Your comments at 6:12 completely true. I think for some players who don't need to play high regularly they end up neglecting tongue arch and just let chops do the work but as you explain this limits them for going high and even if they can play high they have poor endurance. Then when they need to go high there's too much pushing on face, squeezing etc. going on. I've been there. I still sometimes fall into that trap. I think what's helped me is doing more of those lip trills but getting tongue arching to do most of the work not chops.
Thanks for your insightful comment!
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Kurt Thompson What do you know about embouchure injuries?
Kurt Thompson I have braces, is there a good way to improve my range. I'm 2 no chair and I need range alot
@Swedishnbkongu OMG! I can't believe I saw your comment. I played for over 30 years until a skiing accident about 10 years ago where I bit completely through my upper lip. The plastic surgeon did a good job of fixing the look,. But I'm left with a ridge of scar tissue in my upper lip. It completely ruined my embouchure. I've been looking for others with similar injuries to see if they've been able to overcome them either through adjusting how you play or by medical procedure. It kills me to not have played for so long now. It was SUCH a huge part of my life. I can still play but my range and tone suck. Feels like almost like I'm starting over again. And maybe that's the answer. It's just so frustrating to go from where I was back to where I am now. Anyway, just wanted to reach out to you.
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I have been playing trumpet for 2 years and can't play high notes :/ Im going to a very skilled band next year that plays very high...I got to learn..
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This is such a great video. Not only on content, but presentation.
“Try to not let the higher note come out.” That is going to have the student learn it with a goal in mind. Wonderful.
I play for a living and am going to put your concept into my practice routine to make some minor changes. I subscribed. Well done!
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Holy crap! Talk about the right tip at the right time: I've been working on technique a lot recently - practicing the Clarke exercises and scales to increase range and fluidity as well as double-tonguing them to get my articulation up to scratch. This was excruciating at first but is starting to feel more natural and relaxed, partly as a result of discovering 'Anchor Tonguing'. This is tonguing by 'anchoring' the tip of the tongue behind the bottom row of teeth then pronouncing the 'Tu' with the arch of the tongue (the medial-dorsal surface) It turns out that this is what I started doing naturally, before discovering that it is advocated by some top masters, including Clarke himself!It allows you to tongue without breaking the air stream, leading to a real fluidity.
Then after watching this video I tried it for high notes and oh my...increased my range instantly! High C/D feels effortless with this technique. The best bit, however, is that I can use the identical tongue position for both techniques, meaning double tonguing high notes just became about 10 times easier!!!!! Total revelation!!
Very glad this helped!
Love it when the right tip comes along at the exact right time and something just clicks in your head :)
I've been experimenting with this technique, but I can't figure out how to maintain tonguing if the tip of my tongue is anchored to my lower teeth. I typically tongue to the roof my my mouth. Is this incorrect? A hangover from learning flute first? Cheers.
If you are tonguing in the upper register, you end up tonguing with the forward bend in your tonuge, UNLESS...you are double or triple tonguing up there...then it's all chops!
Right. I was wondering if that was the case. Feels pretty slow right now but i'll put some practice into it. Cheers.
I enjoy playing low parts on trumpet and you have helped me in the higher range were I would start to thin out in my sound but I'm switching over to tuba due to my skill and enjoyment in playing low parts thanks for the help :D
I am glad this helped Adam
My man…. I’m 42 years old. I was a hell of a trumpet player up until I was 22 when I quit. I was technically great and my tone was great but I could never hit the upper register worth a damn. I would hit lesser skilled players who could but o swear they were gate-keeping.
I just came across this video twenty years later and applied the tongue arch and now I’m shitting out double G and C… god damn, thank you!
I stopped playing in Freshman year, and then now ten years later, I've picked it up again and for the life of me I couldn't remember how to make those high notes. This helps a lot.
Glad to hear it
dude!!!! You explain it way better so far I got more sound with you but I still have to build out of the red
so it takes time My teacher makes me feel incompetent as a newbie. I' mgoing to follow what you say and then surprise him. I need time
wow thanks
Love this instruction. I've been playing for years and never knew anything about this.
There must be a million videos on obtaining high range but this really helped me. Thank you!
My new year's resolution was to get to double high C. Since I began to focus on my range I've gotten a few notes higher. Right now Im at F over high C. I've been stuck there for months, but the high register I had when I began (Bflat to D) has gotten so much more powerfull and less brittle
Good to know
What impact, if any, do defective heart valves (mitral valve prolapse) have on range and endurance?
I have a question, so, one day, I could play high (for me) hitting a double g and a, but the next day and the next week after that, I can not play a note like high c. Although I did warm down that day and I have a continuous warmup that I use everyday. Thoughts?
Haha same bruh you get some lucky days as well
Well I haven't been getting unlucky days
My problem was based on my stress and pressure on lips
I am filled with stress so I can relax now without any pressure on lips and play nicely with a nice high range with a rich tone
I don't about your problem
It's the plight of every trumpet player...comes with the territory my friend
🙂
This is a sincere question. At what age were you able to play double high C's on a regular basis? I appreciate your response!
lol I still haven't arrived at that age yet! However, in my early 20's they started to get a better quality sound and more power....mp to mf. Now it can be ff to fff. Difficult to be consistent up there. Bud Brisbois and only a handful of some others were what you would call consistent
I mean I'm only a senior in high school and what this mam is saying is 100% true. highest I can play right now is around a high C and D sometimes E I have played Double G before many times but Still working on it. believe me it takes smart practice and patience. just be careful don't over practice. take breaks when needed. don't hurt yourself. it takes time and practice.
Amen!
Joseph High C as in the first octave?
MadGoals no. they mean ABOVE the staff
Joseph dont try to give advice unless your comment makes sense, you just said that the highest you could play is a high c d or e. A double g is two notes above that. By double g if you mean the first one above the staff, that is a high g and not very high. Once again, check your facts before you try to help people with them.
No I mean double G I just wasn't typing it out correctly so that's why it wasn't making sense. I need to work on my grammar
On some good days, I could play high high Bs and Cs effortless while on some bad days I could barely play high high Gs, a note that I play frequently and should not be a problem. Any particular reason why this happens?
Well, gotta tell ya: THAT? Is the very challenge in playing a brass instrument. It is the plight of ALL brass players. You can watch the most celebrated brass musicians of all time have a bad day on a performance and really screw up many things....it just happens
I recognize this... I play trumpet for almost 7 years now... Just since a few months my amazing first chair players all left and all of a sudden now I'm playing first chair with a friend of mine at equal level. We feel responsible to pick the section up and want to get really better. As said above, I recognize this problem but I seem to have it even worse than anyone I know. Usually my reach just gets to the high C and D, but I have had days where I could barely play the E below. Also I can't get a good sound and before you hear the note I play you hear like air blowing through, if you get what I mean...
Any tips to play just a little bit more consistent?
I've been playing roughly the same time as you and I know exactly what you mean by, "air blowing through". I don't get this too often - probably 1 or 2 times per month - however, probably because I don't regularly practice; only 3 hours worth from 2 days a week. It could be that you are overworking, however I would not recommend following my routine. If not, then it could be something psychological.
Endangered Koala practice?
I've found that doing lots of lip slurs to build endurance greatly lowers the frequency of these bad days, but you have to practice them consistently.
would bending the pitch up a half step instead of breaking to the next harmonic accomplish the same thing?
Yes...and NO. bending the pitch up actually consitutes somewhat of a no valve scale....but I already have that covered
Yes, what he is saying is very true, I'm going to be a freshman this year and I'm already in first chair just because I've practiced so much, my band teacher is a wood wind player but my chorus teacher has a major in trumpet, he taught the brass players the process but many of them didn't practice it enough
sounds about right
Hi Kurt,
i have decently sized lips and i tend to get ulcers on the inside of my bottom lip. Do you think this would be caused by too much pressure, incorrect embrouchure or my lip size.
Maybe all 3, but more than likely your body is too acidic either genetically or by using too much spice, jalapenos, chiles, etc...
Try a double dose of tagamet for 2-3 days and see if that evens out the acid and helps those canker sores diminish
I have a question I've been playing for 8 years and didn't get the right technique taught to me( like embrouchure)I was taught to play dead send her in the middle of my mouth so with the arch of the tongue that I'm trying to do how what I do tonguing wow doing the arch with my tongue?
You tongue at the front bend of the tongue arch on the roof of your mouth
Thank you for this video. I am going to replay this video until it clicks
Wonderful!
Hey Kurt, very, very beginning student and in my 60s. Seems my tongue goes naturally into an arch, but then, also, the sides of the tongue curve forward. So the tongue arches, but in addition the sides of the tongue come forward, so the tongue is curved but in two dimensions: up and down and forward. Good? Bad? Indifferent? Thanks.
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I appreciate this video being made my dude. I’m getting back into playing trumpet as there was nothing more than to be better at my first instrument. Finally picked one up (Yamaha 2320) and am stoked. Was ironically called out here with playing high. I failed the G scale every week during our scales test my freshman year in intermediate concert band because I refused to let it beat me and give in to going low G (another challenge later). Your video reminds me how rewarding working towards the goal is and hope it influences other up and coming players to do the work.
You can do it and thanks for the kind words!
Hi, I tried your method, but if I attack a note with my tongue touching my lower teeth instead of my upper teeth, the sound is very dirty and not controlled. Maybe because I've never done it before. But all the teachers and books told me to touch my upper teeth. Also, for the lower notes I need a flexible jaw, and the tongue arch creates an obstacle to the free jaw. So Can I use the tongue arch only in the upper register? How can I connect the lower and upper register if they have different tongue positions? I need a pause to change the tongue position in this case
ok, well what does your trumpet lesson teacher say??
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE Now I am studying on my own, discovering new methods like yours, that is why I ask questions, because it is different from how I played before
Thanks for the video! Just wondering how to do you achieve sharp, pure tonguing with your tongue anchored? I have always used the tip of my tongue at different heights to control the pitch and this has allowed for sharp tonguing, i will try this technique later though!
If your tongue is floating at various levels above the staff, you are most certainly skating on thin ice
I have never had a good range at all so I would imagine that is why. I tried this today and certainly found higher notes required less pressure but the notes sounded muddy :(
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I play trumpet but I steal cant play high notes 😯😓😣
hey its me i haven't been on in a while...but i really do need help
Are you practicing the right stuf?
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i really dont know...Like i said my band doesnt practice outside of marching band season...i dont know about everyone else but i wanna audition for a band...and the way i sound now will not be acceptable for a college...ive made region band...#9 chair and i auditioned for all state missed by a chair...so i wanna make sure i make it next time...i have to get better
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In 6th grade I did band and I quit and I'm in eighth grade and I wanna do band again next year but I played clarinet and I forgot mostly everything about band. I wanna try trumpet. Should I take lessons and try to do band next year?
Sure why not. Get some lessons with a local trumpet teacher for a month and then decide if you like it enough to put in the practice to be able to get back in band
Well in my band I don't think anyone can get back in the band if they quit which I will never quit band I'm about to get trumpet p1 I'm p2 right now
Edit: I'm now in six grade and I've been in band for 6 years.... I started in first grade
@@brittanydavis4593 wow, I play trombone and have played since 7th. I am a sophomore.
It’s up to you, but you have to be sure this is what you want to do, it’s not fair wasting ppl time, if you love playing then excel, if you just like it than you’ll just quit again, your at that age were you can excel to have professional quality skills but you have to really want it, hard work is the key and determination 😎🎺
Hi Kurt. What's your trumpet it's which model?
Thanks in advance for your reply
It is a Bob Reeves, Stomvi, Cambrass .468 multi bore V-raptor collaboration built in 2002.
Great! Soon after some attempt, I have succeeded in raising from middle C to middle B, just varying the leve of tongue tip, without any relevant lips effort! Thanks a lot for your impressive instructions !
Hey glad this helped!
My pleasure!
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I am mainly a sax/keyboard guy and pick up a trumpet occasionally on the gig to play a few simple things, nothing elaborate. I've messed around with the trumpet since high school and I can hit high "C" most of the time but rarely use it on the gig, "A", "Bb" is usually the highest I'll venture. Also my mouthpiece placement is hopelessly to the right of center, always has been always will be; that will never change. So I had my doubts about trying this technique. Just five minutes ago I played a middle "G", arched my tongue, and a "C" popped out immediately, the very first time trying it. I couldn't believe my ears. It was truly a light bulb moment and gives me some hope that even a misfit like myself who plays off to the side has some chance of increasing my range, even at the ripe old age of 60! Thanx Kurt!!
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Believe me, if I ever decide to attack the instrument seriously, I will sign up for whatever you're doing chief! Right now i got my hands full trying master the tongue arch. It manifests itself much easier on the low notes, though in my first practice session yesterday I was able to get a high "Bb" to pop up to "C". Then I went to "C" and the "D" wanted to come out, but not just yet, more practice, more chops!
It takes a lot of practice to get it to work and I notice it's more difficult the higher you go. But I have increased my range by two notes now and can get C# and D to come out reliably. Don't think I'll ever need to go higher than that, thanx for everything man!
Great video! A question: from what note should one start to use tongue arch? From the note above the note which is currently your highest?
It depends, but usually around E near the top of the staff, but definitely by High G
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE Thanks man!
i am 11 and i just got my trumpet yesterday and i have no idea how to play it and the high notes are the most easy notes for me.... what is your point??
hehehe
I have a audition for laguardia next month and I can only play notes below a A. I just can't play high. What should I do?
Consider taking lessons...with anyone
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE lmao ok
Hi, Kurt - Something really amazing just happened to me, and I’d like to know what you think.
I was whistling while I was waiting in my apartment door / hallway (great resonant space) for the delivery guy to come up. I noticed my mouth felt much different, much stronger, and my whistling has improved! Do you think it’s because I’ve picked up my cornet again and started gradually (carefully) developing my embouchure?
I need to hear and watch you play, and whistle to answer this!
TRUMPETSIZZLE I guess you’re right at that, aren’t you! Ha!
Doing everything I can to start building chops on the cornet after not playing trumpet for 30 years...
Going great. Would like to dash-about NYC with my horn every day, but my vintage OHSC is too bulky
Obsessed over a gig bag, obsessed some more... Like the Ritter Sessions because it’s so lightweight and contoured...
However, I couldn’t wait, so today I toted my horn, mouthpiece and stand to work in my well-padded backpack...
Mission accomplished: After work, I sat on a bench at Broadway and West 94th Street and noodled away, off and on, building chops and resting...
Holy cow, is this going to be a good strategy! Tote the ‘net about, treat it with care, and play a bit every chance I get. Fun to see the ear-training/intervals kick in, once I know what song and key I want, popping out a song impromptu is getting easier and easier - NICE!
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Im a trombonist and i really appreciate this video
What tips can you give on how to build "chops"? Because I don't even know where to start in training my chops to where they need to be for range.
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This helped me a lot!
I'm a legit player mostly Latin trombone and I dont tire at all any more!
Thanks a lot!
fantastic to hear!
i used to be able to play high but after 15 years i lost most of it picked it back up about a week ago so im back i the process good video thanks for uploading
Glad you got back in the game!
Thank your for this great video! I wonder how can I tongue notes while maintaining the tongue arch (in order to keep the altitude)?
You tongue with the forward bend in your tongue at the roof of your mouthpiece
Wow, it really works! Granted, it will take some time to get the same control, tone and volume for the new register, but dang if it doesn’t really make notes up there easy!
Thanks! Wish I’d learned this like 40 years ago!
great
Kurt, this is showing promise very quickly. Which video do you suggest next on the TCE?
Hey kurt. Quick question. When you say high notes does it mean maynard high or low c to high g. Thanks kurt
Above High C and typically upper register: High C to Double High G.
I’m trying to learn to get better on my shofar. This should be the same advice right?
Don't think so
Kurt, they should have a Ferguson band for you! Out front, like "you know who." Luv your all around playing.
Mike
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Davis, Ca.
Hey quick question, I fall into the category of players who have never used the tongue arch before, and I've done so because I was never able to get it to work properly. I've tried many times over a couple of years to figure it out, but I still to this day have had no luck. I've just now tried doing the exercise at around 11:50 in the video, but all I've gotten out of it is a really thin sounding "G". Any tips to help develop this skill from the ground up? Thanks so much.
TIP #1: Get the best teacher for the job!
Who are you studying with and why is it they are not helping you out?
I am a trumpet player about to go to my 2nd year of college and my range I good at around a double g or so what would you recommend me do to get that maynard style in a way?
Listen, play along with Maynard and be prepared to invest hard work and $$$ in a teacher to coach you there to your goal!
Great ! After some attempts, in a minute or less, I have succeeded in raising from C to B just varying the level of the tongue tip without any increase of air and lips pressure !
Great!
So, middle school jazz band, all the first chairs graduated and we have a bunch of 7th grade trumpets, first year in jazz, E on the staff was rather difficult. Fast forward to December of that year, I can hit double high G with some consistency (I’m first chair) and the others aren’t far behind. I completely agree with what he says though
Great job!
DOUBLE HIGH G!!??!?!?!?!?
Thanks a lot from Romania :)
Glad it helped!
How do you use the tongue arch without cutting off the air? I hate the headaches. It's so draining. On horn, I use angles to pop out high notes, but on this collegiate holton trumpet with Bach 2.5 C, It's just not working. My sound is too thick.
Calibration
Great advice, just like my trumpet tutor in 1966-69 taught. My past experience includes trumpet 5th grade through sophmore-college, bands, stage bands, youth symphony, mastering Arban's method, Claude Gorden, etc. I just retired from my engineering (day) job, bought a beautiful Charlie Melk refinished/valve aligned Conn 28B similar to my old trumpet. I will definitely look you up if/when I need help-lessons.
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I list my confidence after an injury , from over practicing, and it took me 6 months to play above the staff. Years later, as the 2nd trumpet solo improviser guy I am starting to play high again after discovering a more efficient mouthpiece and with systematic practice . It has to be fun and it takes careful planned practice.
Indeed it does!
this has changed my life
very great to hear!
How long did it take you to get the first C above the staff? I've been playing for about 3 years now and am constantly wondering if my technical difficulties come from a lack of chops due to my recent start on the horn, or wrong playing (though the more I read, the less a "correct, universal embouchure" seems to be.) About that tongue arch thing, I focus on it but It feels weak at a certain point. It seems my chops get in its way sometimes. Know the reason?
Let's see high c? Maybe the summer before my Junior year. Yes, at this stage in my life I know most of the reasons players encounter certain difficulties...
Kurt Thompson It might be that I'm not tightening my corners enough during my long tones, because when I try lip thrills, my embouchure isn't stable enough to support the air pressure (from e to g above the staff) . Does that make sense to you?
I would have to spend some time with you to get any more detailed....
I play off the side and my highest note in comfort zone is a D but I can hit up to an E. Does playing off the side affect my range?
It could, but it sounds like maybe it is affecting your range positively.
I'm a trumpet player in eighth grade. is a high c above the staff a high note for my grade ?
better than what I could do back then. In Junior High you really need to focus on technique. Go to those solo and ensemble festivals. Get those fingers faster, tonguing better, tone better. Then? Later on when you are almost a man in 11th grade or 12th grade, THAT'S when you come to me to get the testosterone for TOTAL DOMINATION of anyone within a 500 mile radius of you! www.trumpetsizzle.com
Wow that was so beautifuly said and I love how your not trying your just being yourself just talking and that's why you get your message across so clear bro so thank you very much! Blessiiiings to ya!!!!!!
Thanks very much!
Hi, when I attempt to hit high notes air begins to escape through my nose. Do you have any tips to help?
You are arching your tongue to far in the back instead of up near the front. So, you are blocking off the air and causing it to shove right up and through your nose. Kinda like when you swallow coke or a drink, but then laugh, burp or whatever....that drink comes out your nose!
Kurt Thompson Thank you so much! That should definitely help.
Yes Sarah, you should work on bending the tongue closer to the tip. Remember, the tip is anchored and touching behind your lower teeth so focus on the bend (arch) right there instead of back in your throat!
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I’ve realised that I push my trumpet harder to my lips when I try to push out higher notes. Is that bad? And how would that be helping me get higher notes?
Could be
Any chance you have an opinion. I played for 20 years pushing in. over the last 5 years I've stopped pushing in and freed up air flow. BUT, the damage I sustained when.pushing in has left me with nil capacity to pay bottom g to low g in performance. ie free flowing air. I need to use my push in technique which mentally changes my air flow idea. with the exception of these low notes I can blow a range over 7-8 octaves. I have started playing pedal tones with air. (Greg Spence Australia). How do I retrain my lip muscles for this low range. (If I was to pay an advanced Arban etude with my.new technique is impossible because of no.low range. If I use my old technique in can get close to.perfection but I would move my lips for every note)
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I have a tongue tie, meaning my tongue is stuck to the bottom of mouth. Is this going to be a problem for getting higher notes with a tongue arch?
Not sure. I would have to work with you and find out.
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I am currently in the summer going into my senior year of high school, I have played lead for a year in my schools jazz band, what sort of things would you recommend to improve my range from around high D to E to into the double octaves? What techniques and books would you recommend for someone at my level?
Have you looked at this to at least make sure you are doing these?
th-cam.com/video/64r4-xEBNeo/w-d-xo.html
what school do you go to
I've been putting my tongue in the right place this whole time without even knowing it!
Lucky You!
Talk about physically demanding, is it normal that I get dizzy (Gillespie?) while practicing long notes? Or should I take it easier?
normal, but yeah, take it easy
I've gone through the process we'll put dude. I don't got great range but am at the High D right off the top of the scale.
Super!
OK. OK. OK. I finally clicked subscribe! I must say that you do an excellent job of explaining difficult concepts in a very accessible manner. I wish I'd known some of this stuff all the years I struggled to develop range using an improper framework, which as you know DOES NOT WORK. Alas, most band instructors don't teach these things correctly, or at least, they don't emphasize them enough.
Great
Been playing for 2 years already 1st trumpet I just caught up quick but still want to improve
Great
i can see why a lot of players cant play high but what happed when you can only reach a G and the tone has degraded to where it sounds like a bunch of pops instead of a steady clear vibration? i have tried different positions, more top lip, less, roll in roll out. i used to have a decent tone but it just ended. ive been mpc buzzing, free buzzing and the callett method and nothing lasts. sounds airy. any ideas?
What did your lessons teacher say?
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE its been 50 years since horn lessons. im 63 and did fairly well for decades. i stopped for a few years but am back again. one day about a year ago, things went south. this airy sound started in and its never been the same. i can get a few lower note songs on the flug but anything over an e is really awful. the horn really makes this popping airy sound stand out but is somewhat covered with the flug.
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Kurt I'm having real trouble with the arch. it feels like I'm doing it but still nothing happens. when I try to play a G and arch to a C I'm still playing a G. Anyone have tips?
Hard to give tips on this unless I watch you play by video and you are studying with me. You might try Low C to Middle G. Otherwise there are other options, but I need to spend time with you to see what you are doing incorrectly.
@@TRUMPETSIZZLE well thanks anyways. I'll try to keep working on it.
I'm in 9th grade. On a good day can hit a double G but never hit above. Will the tonnage arch help me that much?
I meant tounge
You need to focus on many other things besides range if you can play a double G. etudes, tonguing, style, tone, power, dynamics, accuracy, multiple tonguing just to name a few.
Are you getting top scores and solo and ensemble festival? Are you first in everything you try out for: regional, all county, mid state bands???
thank you so much for those tips! It's very useful!!!
good to hear
Hey, great video, very interesting.I cant seem to get the tongue arch thing.. I cant tell if I am doing it right... It keeps dropping back down.
thanks
So I can play a b sometimes a c and sometimes a d I want to increase my range but everything I do I can't play any higher any tips?
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If you anchor your tongue against your teeth using it to arch up, how do you create articulations reliably?
with the forward bend in the tongue
When you were talking about tounge arch, I was so worried but then I was doing it right
Glad to hear you got it!
You are a good teacher for band very honest and really realistic.
Very kind thanks
Kurt Thompson you're welcome :)
So, the tongue arch definitely works. But, how do you work this with tonguing, either single tonguing or double?
And another question that kinda goes with it then... Are you arching towards the front or back of your tongue?
Practice and correct striking with an alternative part of the tongue
front
Thanks!
this video really helped me
That's great!
+Kurt Thompson Hey can you please help me with the "process". I wanna get better but the band director i have doesn't teach us. So i try and teach myself. I'm first chair because i take music very serious. But i wanna get better so, can you help me???
of course i can help you...that's my job and how I make my living!
is it normal to get a bump on my lip when im playing.
+Young Thug NO SIR . That is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY TO MUCH Effort .. You don't need that . I've been playing trumpet for 3 years . That's never happened to me
oooh...so that means im blowing a little to hard??? And can you and kurt like email me because it would be easier for me....thugyoung353@gmail.com
and i dont have any money to do the trumpet lesson :(
I've been using The Maggio book. improved sound and range. no point having range with a scratchy sound
Maggio won't really get you there. Better to have a scratchy sound with amazing range then...no range!
my band teacher always points us the trumpets out he killed my dreams and i will still keep p going because i can learn improve i can get better one of the fellow trumpets already switch
What????
That was me in high school and college. I had really strong chops and could play up to the high D consistently and strong all night long, but could go no higher no matter how much I practiced. My E sounded exactly like when you played with no tongue arch.I think I was just muscling all that with a ton of air and chops now lol. Never once had one of my instructors mention tongue arch before. Thank you for the explanation, really excited to start practicing this as I'm getting back into the instrument as a comeback player
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