I am 59 years old, I just picked up my horn after not practicing for over 23 years. Using your ideas I could hit high C effortlessly. Why isn't this common knowledge. I so appreciate your video. With the new horizons that have been open, I can't to play again! Thank you much! I immediately shared this video with my brother. We played together for many years. I hope it inspires him too.
I’ve been a professional for years now playing lead trumpet all the way to tuba. After experiencing a bout of embouchure tension that I just couldn’t shake, this video gave me the single biggest jump in playing efficiency I’ve ever experienced. Thank you so much.
I have struggled for years to understand tounge position and how if affects range. Tried this today and the concepts finally clicked. Thank you. My range just went up about 3-4 notes.
I have been struggling to play high notes for months. This was the best advice I've gotten so far. I'm now able to play The Last Post, a goal I've had since a child! Thank you so much!
This is great! I’m always looking for new ways to teach tongue position to my students, and I think this will really help them understand the concept quickly! Thanks!!
I have sort of figured this out myself after seeing those x-rays of that one horn player. It was SUPER useful to hear someone talk clearly about this. Cheers! TH-cam resources like this has taught me about as much as my teachers did, if not more.
I wish I had seen this 49 years ago when I first started playing. This is brilliant. Might be the best video for trumpet playing ever created. Too bad most of us had to discover this the hard way over years of effort. Thanks for sharing.
The only bad thing is that I'm at work with my trumpet in the room and my boss is next door and I'm going to have to wait for him to leave so I can experiment with this concept lol.
I am 53 and just started playing the trumpet three months ago. This is the most amazing insight into the instrument that I now love. I’m going to try it out today!
This is possibly the greatest video of all time. I’m not even a trumpet player, I play horn and it works. It just works. I’ve been struggling with range for so long and didn’t realize it was this easy to fix. I can’t believe I just needed to rethink the focal point. You are a godsend
I liked how you gave a profile and pointed to different areas for attention and focus. Most teachers continue to face my/student view. Now to practice.
Oh my god. I couldn't play well quality high notes before. However, after watching this video, I could play a smooth high C for 12 bars!Wow!Thank you very much!
Thanks a lot ! Very, very useful ! I was loosing my time figuring out the tongue position without success. That and your last video on apperture : a gold mine for my problems with improving range. Thank you
Wow! I'm impressed by your generosity by you sharing this tip with the rest of us. I'm a composer/piano player ex professional trumpet player. I think I can be quite expressive with the trumpet's voice but the range limit can put a brake on my ideas. It worked as soon as I tried it. Thank you.
wow, need to sit with this for a bit but already I think you may have changed my whole game! thank you for making the time to create this video and share this insight
That was the missing link, thank you very much. When I returned playing trumpet, I looked around on TH-cam, found many helpful tips, to train my lips etc. I recognized that I learn whistling as a side effect. Me as a singer asked the principle trumpeter of the orchestra if he can whistle: yes he can, he told me that he can whistle every trumpet concert. So I have a task, bringing my throat in congruence, resonance to the tone pitch.
Really interesting! With a clarinet or sax, you can position your tongue in such a way that the resonance in your mouth fully overcomes the instrument’s resonance. By this means you can do a glissando.
Well presented. I will try to think of this next time I play. A lot of what you have is nicely broken down for people when never read the written notes of many famous method books. Sounds like you had access to the right teachers and have what you really need. A desire to excel and the guts to stay locked in the room and then get out and play whenever you can ! Good job .
Well Ryan, I just happened to catch your video before my practise session, and it really unlocked something for me. Obviously I knew about the importance of tongue position but somehow it never translated into my playing. After hearing your explanations and watching you demonstrate, something clicked. Thank you, and I look forward to your next videos.
This is brilliant. I’ve been coming to this conclusion, too, just recently. It’s not the “speed” of the air that tongue arching does at all. That never made sense. It is the size and resonance of the mouth chamber! That’s why some trumpeters have a distinctive sound (think Wayne). Their oral cavities have unique shapes! I look forward to more from you. Thanks!!
Hey Ryan! This video popped into my recommended feed today, absolutely brilliant! This is exactly what I do, and it was taught by Jay Saunders at UNT. Great job explaining it and making it super clear. I’m definitely going to share this with all of my students. Bravo!
Man, that makes me so happy to hear that, especially coming from you. So great to hang at ITG!!! Teach me more about Jay Saunders' approach to this . . . did he use the pitch of the half-whistles as well? Or focus more on the sensation of the "focal point" between the tongue and the top of the mouth?
It was so fun hanging at ITG! He would focus on sensation. Everything was about the feeling of it all. A bunch of us would figure out that it felt like a whistle like you describe. He would talk about how our tongues are able to handle tons of micro movements that can be harnessed to make playing in the upper register easier. I remember when it clicked for me, it was incredible. We all would also talk about the balance of air usage and aperture pucker to achieve a “lower” tongue position to gain headroom in range. Hope you are well!
Thanks for the tips, I recently bought a trumpet and a Cornett and I am trying to learn how to play them by myself. Up to now I sound terrible but luckily I got myself a silent brass system so I am the only one hearing this tortures 😉 maybe (hopefully) I will improve my sound with your tips. 👍
Hi Ryan. Fantastic eye-opener. We think so often of air velocity and volume contributing to air pressure but rarely do with think of the stuff going on "behind-the-lips". This idea of a focal point really interests me!
Ryan!!! I went to ASU with you! Hope you remember me. I had to learn trombone a few years ago to pay the bills and I’m now getting back into trumpet. Been struggling with high notes while relearning trumpet. Just hit a double G within 30 min of watching this video!!!
Man, of course I remember you! I was always so inspired by your piccolo playing and the ease of your approach to the horn. Honestly, I still tell my students about you from time to time. I'm sooooo glad this felt helpful you in some way. Our community of trumpeters is definitely the better for having you back in it!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this . . . :-) @@DaveMel-p9i
thank you so much ryan. you had helped me a lot. you introduced the idea of "passage" and in a way is pretty similar to what happens to singers (and we can also experiment it) when they go up in the register. there are a couple times where you have to do a small modification to keep going up with fluidity and no tension. well, its reasonable that the same thing happens when playing trumpet. great discovery!!
Hello Ryan, I have been playing since I was 12 and now 62. I have heard so much about this in the last 5 years or so how important the tongue placement is like whistling and the higher the whistle, focus on where the tongue is. Ive never had personal training except in school and learned to play more by ear then read music. My point is that I still struggle with this concept for some reason and like you said okd habits are hard to let go. The high C is very comfortable and only if i could nail this concept i know it would help so much. I will not stop trying and focus on everything. I just recently had major back surgery so I'm not allowed playing my horn or even my military bugle for taps services. So I also figured this would be a good time to learn and focus on this type of exercise and the placement of the tongue and even use a mouthpiece to just listen to the air of a lower note to the higher note which that I understand. Thank you again Sir for taking the time and I look forward to following your site to listen to your playing. I love watching the videos with the lotus trumpets and Adam Rapa as well. Thank you again for everything. 👍🏻🎺
@ryanstrumpet no problem Ryan. Busy schedules always have reasons to take time to respond. I recently had a major back surgery November 4th which has set me back some but won't cause me to stop. I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas and safe New Year Sir.
@@davidharrison3074 Merry Christmas to you as well, David! With the back surgery, the episodes on breath/breathing may be of particular help to you right now. Especially the mantra, "exhalation is relaxation." Best wishes to you and yours :-)
@ryanstrumpet thank you. I will look at that technique. I have used box breathing for many years which is a little tough right now. I'll never quit sir. Thank you again for what you do to help others including me. 👍🏻🎺
Very interesting explanation, I will try...so I am an amateur playing French horn for about 50y now, and it is pain... Horn has a conical mouthpiece and there are the most common Eb, F and B horns (i play orchestral double and single B), but the beauty is French horn is not domicile like other horns, one day you are ready for a Carnegie Hall, next day you are trashed to depression. So I find my own way to be consistent: long notes mid range, slurred harmonics- slowly, and when it comes to High, I practice scale to one whole above I need, but newer on account of the tone, the empire that I built every day, (that was Wynton Marsalis explanation on trumpet playing), - keep in mind, you shape an air and air is all you have.
Wow, super cool. Been playing amateur for twenty years in various bands. Always consider my comfortable playing register stopped at C above the stave. Gave this a go and pop immediately f# 4 octaves crazy
There are corollaries to singing here that to my knowledge have yet been 'mapped.' I wish singers understood the degree to which the diameter allowed in the vocal tract plays in how the vibrators react. It also underscores how it is possible that trumpet player's top end can be greatly disrupted when a trumpet player loses weight (the tongue, losing fat, actually changes girth), just as singers often do. The very small change in the air pathway has huge effects. Very good video. I will play for my singing students. (I used to be a trombonist and often teach with a mouthpiece nearby to give a clear mental picture what the unseen vocal folds are doing)
Great video with really valuable content! Shifting the focal point also means a change in tongue position, doesn't it? The tongue arches to a maximum in the highest notes and lies pretty much flat in the low notes.
Brilliant content!! I can't wait to try and practice this, putting it into practice. Something I would point, no related to the content itself, but would be cool on the next videos: As you made very well on separating the sections inside the video, you can make that separations and markings on the timestamps in the video, so it turns easier to watch each session and find them to rewatch (what I'll do pretty much now on!!). Cheers!
I remember last year I struggled to consistently hit anything above an F, and then a masterclass person said to think about changing the shape of your mouth when going higher, and it literally doubled my upper range, and I can regularly play super F now. This also happened around the same time as I started expanding my lower range to the F 2 octaves below concert F.
Day 2 of saying "thank you". I'd like to write a bit more. I've heard Adam Rapa talk about it of course, but it never "clicked" somewhat. After watching this lesson was like "Yeah I think I get it", but I didn't want to get to excited. Lo and behold, I slurred up to a high C, not "loud" per se, but clear. NOW I practice "notes", not "low notes", not "high notes". Playing high has become just playing. Of course, the notes are a lot closer, so I have to be a lot more precise with tonguing. Speaking of which, do you have some tips to share about tonguing high notes without risking over/undershooting it?
"Playing high has become just playing." Yes! Love it! As for the tonguing, I've found the following reminders helpful in my practice and teaching: 1) Remember that the heart of accuracy is accurately imaging (hearing in your mind) the *precise* pitch that you want, imbued with an emotional character. 7/10 times, if I alternate playing and singing (falsetto!) the accuracy challenges will either improve a lot or resolve themselves. 2) Invite/allow the strike of the tongue to be a natural extension of deliberately maintaining the same Vowell-shape or mouth-chamber-shape or tongue-position (whichever of those phrases works best for your mind). In other words, if the tongue is causing problems, it's likely causing them because it is either moving too much (and disturbing the Vowell-shape), or it's striking in a place that is incongruent with the Vowell-shape that's working when you slur to it. Bottom line: 1) hear it. 2) sing with the same Vowell shape. Hope that helps!
I've been playing the trumpet since I was 7 years old. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how everything works. Sound is created by air being pushed from the lounges by the muscles squeezing around them and then forced through the lips and then the upper lip vibrates against the lower lip. More air (pressure) equals more volume except when ascending. The higher we play the more air pressure we need to exert to overcome the resistance created by the muscle contractions of the embouchure and the added mouthpiece pressure needed to create a seal around our embouchure. All of this is explain in Mr. Holifield's Practical Approach series of books for the Trumpet Player
Thanks, Ryan. Will definitely work on this. I picked up my horn again, about 5 years ago, after 60+ Years. Not doing too badly. I'm starting to increase my practice time and things are sounding a bit better. I've been able to hit high D (with some effort!), and have occasionally hit an Eb and high E. But I don't own them yet. And I'm expending way too much physical energy! Hopefully your method of controlling the airflow in the chamber behind the lips will help.
I’m with you. I’m 67 and picked up my horn a year ago when my son asked me to play for his funeral. Ryan has just proven that my resonance chamber is so non standard that this doesn’t work for me. I expend way too much energy so can only practice for maybe 25 min but can get a solid C D and E.
Yes. With an understanding that the placement itself is as much about resonance as it is about airstream.... wish I'd understood it a *long* time ago! :-)
Also, sorry if I'm spamming a bit (though as far as I'm aware YT's algorithm loves comments right?), I LOVE the concept that lips are not the cause. I'm really liking it as I practice. I try NOT to think about lips when I practice. One thing that has helped me a lot with this, correct me if I'm wrong, was putting one of those clip-tuners (guitar tuners) in the bell when practicing long tones. I don't think about the lips, when my lips start giving up and I start to go flat the tuner tells me, so I don't have to worry about that, and I just strengthen my breath or raise my tongue a little bit.
Thanks a lot, since I discovered this technique, I know understand how these professional trumpet player that I heard managed to catch sometimes these super high notes without any difficulty clearly and moreover playing piano, I didn't get how this was possible to make that and make it look so easy. Now I get it ! 1 question though, do you think that even with this technique, it requires a certain level of let's say "muscle" in the lips in order to make so high or is it really 90% made by the tongue position in the mouth ?
Love this question. The gentleman I study with right now, Newell Dayley, is 84, and no longer plays. In his words, he doesn't have the muscle to play anymore. But, he can pick up a horn and play a high G without any difficulty, because he knows exactly how to setup inside his mouth. To my mind, the question of muscle is more about endurance than range. Assuming a healthy, simple setup of the lips, the resonance of the mouth is extremely important, even key.
@@ryanstrumpet Thanks a lot for your reply, this helps a lot. I played a lot when I was young but stopped playing for 25 years, now it's been 4 months since I started to play again because I have a project with a band, so, in terms of muscle, I'm in the building process ! Regarding the high notes, since I saw your video, I am trying everyday to find what fits the best for me. I found out that there are different possibilities in how one can position his lips, tongue and even the teeth to make it work. And it happens sometimes that when I find the correct relative position of all this, yes, the sound goes out loud and clear.....and clean. So, now it's just a matter of practicing everyday, identify more precisely what works for me, feel it so that this can be "printed" in my body and becomes automatic.
@@sylvaincalmels1284 Check out episodes 6, 7, 8, and 9 for embouchure basics and "chop builders." If that's the phase you're in, they will likely be helpful!
This video is awesome! Thanks for the awesome new paradigm of range on the trumpet. Unfortunately watching the video makes me feel like I have cataracts or something....
Wow It's very interesting, thanks a lot to share this concept. I never heard this before. I'm a comeback player and at this moment I'm in big trouble to get back an acceptable range. I'm very interested in getting more information to work on the 3 focus points. Should it be possible for you to help ? Thx
Hey Ryan, really interesting video!! I saw Adams tipps on range, the focal points make a lot of sense to me. I noticed that i use them exactly that way when i whistle, with a distinct register break when switching the focal point. I never could emulate that feeling on the trumpet though, seeing you do it just that way motivates me to try it again. Maybe i was blowing too much air, thinking i need to make the lips vibrate using breath support. Thanks a lot!
My favorite description of air is something I heard Joe Allessi say . . . . that he thought about the airstream as being "conversational." I think that's it. . . . for reals. . . . that's all we need. If it's enough air to make the vocal folds vibrate in speech, it's enough for the lips to vibrate in trumpet-song 🙂
Interesting. There's a reason I've stuck to low brass for over 20 years. My range on trumpet is absolute garbage. The only upper brass instrument I've ever been successful in playing has been horn, the back pressure is a help. I'll be getting the trumpet out tomorrow to try this.
Hi dear Ryan , I’ve been watching your videos a lot 😊 Again thanks !! Allow me to ask a Question : when you demonstrate the transition from the first focal point to the second and third , are you actually using the exact sounds / and the exact air speed like demonstrated in the video ?! ( 6:16 minutes ) The air speed seems so “little “ ?! What exactly is the tongue doing ? ( maybe a another video with a visualiser or something?☺️😊😊) Thank you again ! Your fan 😀
Hi @shamslife9182 -- As best I can, yes, those are the sounds/air speed (when I'm playing well). When I fall into less efficient habits, I tend to work much harder :-) Sometimes, it helps my students when I have them imagine rolling a Boba pearl along the top of their mouth . . . the further back the imaginary Boba pearl, the lower the pitch. Thank you for these questions! Please keep asking :-)
Again kind sir . Feeling flattered you answer me ! I have many questions ☺️ For the time being , to leave you your well deserved peace , i allow myself to ask only this : When I do this exercise my throat seems to be not „opened „, blocking , or constricted , whatever we will call it . What do you recommend to „open „ the throat ? Thanks a lot ! And let us know your patrions site ..
@@shamslife9182 You've touched on one of the most common challenges I have faced as a player, and virtually all of my students face: constricting or choking the exhale in the throat. There are several possible causes . . . from the physical to the psychological . . . . On the physical side, the information in the "Breath" episodes should be very helpful. The issue often stems from simply over blowing . . . we confuse "support" with bracing ourselves or bearing down. Refocus the energy of the exhale at the "tip of the lip," and be sure you're not "sitting down" on the air (see the second breath episode). It may also be that the tongue is simply too high in the mouth (too close to the roof of the mouth) and is backing up the airstream. Bottom line, if thinking about tongue level this way doesn't help your sound get more resonant, and your approach feel easier, half-whistles may not be the best door into understanding tongue level for you. On the psychological side . . . I struggled with "clinching" for most of my career, until I had a profound experience connected to some trauma-related healing, and all of a sudden it went away. This left me wondering if "the clinch" might sometimes be connected to our ability (or inability) to settle into, trust, and confidently give expression to our inner voice. It's all so connected. . . . Anyhow . . . keep "the real trumpet guru" close by in your practice (resonant sound, ease of response), and be willing to test and challenge every bit of information you learn until you find your own proverbial path up the mountain. Best wishes!
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This is the most brilliant and needed fix for easier playing that I have heard in the last 40 years of my playing. Thank you!!!
Glad to hear that it's helping your playing! Thanks for the kind note 🙂
Fix ????? Forget it.
Oh man! I don't want to get left behind, so I'm getting right on these exercises now! Thank you!
I am 59 years old, I just picked up my horn after not practicing for over 23 years. Using your ideas I could hit high C effortlessly. Why isn't this common knowledge. I so appreciate your video. With the new horizons that have been open, I can't to play again! Thank you much!
I immediately shared this video with my brother. We played together for many years. I hope it inspires him too.
I love this! Thank you so much for sharing this experience with me. Here's to keeping the joy alive!
I’ve been a professional for years now playing lead trumpet all the way to tuba. After experiencing a bout of embouchure tension that I just couldn’t shake, this video gave me the single biggest jump in playing efficiency I’ve ever experienced. Thank you so much.
I have struggled for years to understand tounge position and how if affects range. Tried this today and the concepts finally clicked. Thank you. My range just went up about 3-4 notes.
I have been struggling to play high notes for months. This was the best advice I've gotten so far. I'm now able to play The Last Post, a goal I've had since a child! Thank you so much!
So glad it's helping! Thank you, @sarayyoung6834!
That's interesting. I haven't heard it described in quite that way before. I know what I'm doing this afternoon!
This is great! I’m always looking for new ways to teach tongue position to my students, and I think this will really help them understand the concept quickly! Thanks!!
I have sort of figured this out myself after seeing those x-rays of that one horn player. It was SUPER useful to hear someone talk clearly about this. Cheers!
TH-cam resources like this has taught me about as much as my teachers did, if not more.
Where can you find these x rays
I wish I had seen this 49 years ago when I first started playing. This is brilliant. Might be the best video for trumpet playing ever created. Too bad most of us had to discover this the hard way over years of effort. Thanks for sharing.
The only bad thing is that I'm at work with my trumpet in the room and my boss is next door and I'm going to have to wait for him to leave so I can experiment with this concept lol.
@@williamstadelmeyer3563 lol
The best video by a mile, that explains higher notes. Thanks for sharing!!!
I believe that I've instinctively been doing that....Now I plan to be more intentional! Thank you
I am 53 and just started playing the trumpet three months ago. This is the most amazing insight into the instrument that I now love. I’m going to try it out today!
Nice job describing how sounds happen on the trumpet -such a difficult concept for players to understand.
This is possibly the greatest video of all time. I’m not even a trumpet player, I play horn and it works. It just works. I’ve been struggling with range for so long and didn’t realize it was this easy to fix. I can’t believe I just needed to rethink the focal point. You are a godsend
SAME I HOPE IT WORKS!!
What is so nice is that you maintain a beautiful open tone as you reach higher.
I liked how you gave a profile and pointed to different areas for attention and focus. Most teachers continue to face my/student view. Now to practice.
Oh my god. I couldn't play well quality high notes before. However, after watching this video, I could play a smooth high C for 12 bars!Wow!Thank you very much!
Thank you so much Sensay 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks a lot ! Very, very useful ! I was loosing my time figuring out the tongue position without success. That and your last video on apperture : a gold mine for my problems with improving range. Thank you
Wow! I'm impressed by your generosity by you sharing this tip with the rest of us. I'm a composer/piano player ex professional trumpet player. I think I can be quite expressive with the trumpet's voice but the range limit can put a brake on my ideas. It worked as soon as I tried it. Thank you.
wow, need to sit with this for a bit but already I think you may have changed my whole game!
thank you for making the time to create this video and share this insight
The vocal points are so essential!
That was the missing link, thank you very much. When I returned playing trumpet, I looked around on TH-cam, found many helpful tips, to train my lips etc. I recognized that I learn whistling as a side effect. Me as a singer asked the principle trumpeter of the orchestra if he can whistle: yes he can, he told me that he can whistle every trumpet concert.
So I have a task, bringing my throat in congruence, resonance to the tone pitch.
Really interesting! With a clarinet or sax, you can position your tongue in such a way that the resonance in your mouth fully overcomes the instrument’s resonance. By this means you can do a glissando.
Thank you so much. Much more range and less effort. This class changed my way of thinking about the high register. Amazing
Before viewing this video I could hit a C# if I was lucky. Seconds after viewing the video I hit High E! This is extrememly good advice!
As an accordion player, other instruments fascinate me, especially Brass. I love all the brass family and this guy really knows what he is doing.
Well presented. I will try to think of this next time I play. A lot of what you have is nicely broken down for people when never read the written notes of many famous method books. Sounds like you had access to the right teachers and have what you really need. A desire to excel and the guts to stay locked in the room and then get out and play whenever you can ! Good job .
Well Ryan, I just happened to catch your video before my practise session, and it really unlocked something for me. Obviously I knew about the importance of tongue position but somehow it never translated into my playing. After hearing your explanations and watching you demonstrate, something clicked. Thank you, and I look forward to your next videos.
Hey man, great playing with you on Kobie Watkins' gig. I just upgraded my C trumpet to a Schilke CX-5. I can't wait to try this soon.
Thanks, Sean! Lemme know how it works out!
I wish this video existed in the 90's, haha. I can effortlessly and consistently play an E above the staff in my 40's now, wow!
So glad that it's feeling helpful to you! All my best on your trumpet adventures!
This is brilliant. I’ve been coming to this conclusion, too, just recently. It’s not the “speed” of the air that tongue arching does at all. That never made sense. It is the size and resonance of the mouth chamber! That’s why some trumpeters have a distinctive sound (think Wayne). Their oral cavities have unique shapes! I look forward to more from you. Thanks!!
Well let's see if it works! About to give this a go!
Thanks for the valuable information!!!
You save my life bro.
Thks!
Just trying to improve my high notes specifically increased my range by 4 whole steps in 2 months and I’ll take it
Hey Ryan! This video popped into my recommended feed today, absolutely brilliant! This is exactly what I do, and it was taught by Jay Saunders at UNT. Great job explaining it and making it super clear. I’m definitely going to share this with all of my students. Bravo!
Man, that makes me so happy to hear that, especially coming from you. So great to hang at ITG!!! Teach me more about Jay Saunders' approach to this . . . did he use the pitch of the half-whistles as well? Or focus more on the sensation of the "focal point" between the tongue and the top of the mouth?
It was so fun hanging at ITG!
He would focus on sensation. Everything was about the feeling of it all. A bunch of us would figure out that it felt like a whistle like you describe. He would talk about how our tongues are able to handle tons of micro movements that can be harnessed to make playing in the upper register easier. I remember when it clicked for me, it was incredible. We all would also talk about the balance of air usage and aperture pucker to achieve a “lower” tongue position to gain headroom in range. Hope you are well!
This is solid gold. Thanks so much for sharing this!
really good video brother, thanks for sharing
I love this tutorial mate, I wish I can learn it or understand how u do those shifts I'd be grateful.
God this is so brilliant
I echo all the good comments - amazing! Mind blowing! It works. Unlocks the puzzle. I love the half whistle. Thank you so much!
So glad it feels helpful! Best of luck to you in your trumpet adventures!
Excelente enseñanza maestro!!! Muchas gracias saludos desde Argentina ❤
Gracias, Guido! Saludos también desde Utah!
Thanks for the tips, I recently bought a trumpet and a Cornett and I am trying to learn how to play them by myself. Up to now I sound terrible but luckily I got myself a silent brass system so I am the only one hearing this tortures 😉 maybe (hopefully) I will improve my sound with your tips. 👍
Now, that's why I pay the internet. Thank you for posting this great advice!
You’ve changed (in better) my sound! thanks!
So glad it felt helpful!
Hi Ryan. Fantastic eye-opener. We think so often of air velocity and volume contributing to air pressure but rarely do with think of the stuff going on "behind-the-lips". This idea of a focal point really interests me!
Fascinating.
This is incredible content. Amazing concept. Thank you so much!
You're welcome, Erik :-) Thank you for hanging out with it --
Ryan!!! I went to ASU with you! Hope you remember me. I had to learn trombone a few years ago to pay the bills and I’m now getting back into trumpet. Been struggling with high notes while relearning trumpet. Just hit a double G within 30 min of watching this video!!!
This is David Melancon btw
Man, of course I remember you! I was always so inspired by your piccolo playing and the ease of your approach to the horn. Honestly, I still tell my students about you from time to time. I'm sooooo glad this felt helpful you in some way. Our community of trumpeters is definitely the better for having you back in it!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this . . . :-)
@@DaveMel-p9i
thank you so much ryan. you had helped me a lot. you introduced the idea of "passage" and in a way is pretty similar to what happens to singers (and we can also experiment it) when they go up in the register. there are a couple times where you have to do a small modification to keep going up with fluidity and no tension. well, its reasonable that the same thing happens when playing trumpet. great discovery!!
it was really fun working with you
-robby
Hello Ryan, I have been playing since I was 12 and now 62. I have heard so much about this in the last 5 years or so how important the tongue placement is like whistling and the higher the whistle, focus on where the tongue is. Ive never had personal training except in school and learned to play more by ear then read music.
My point is that I still struggle with this concept for some reason and like you said okd habits are hard to let go. The high C is very comfortable and only if i could nail this concept i know it would help so much. I will not stop trying and focus on everything. I just recently had major back surgery so I'm not allowed playing my horn or even my military bugle for taps services. So I also figured this would be a good time to learn and focus on this type of exercise and the placement of the tongue and even use a mouthpiece to just listen to the air of a lower note to the higher note which that I understand. Thank you again Sir for taking the time and I look forward to following your site to listen to your playing. I love watching the videos with the lotus trumpets and Adam Rapa as well.
Thank you again for everything. 👍🏻🎺
Thank you for these kind words, David! I'm sorry I missed this note until now. Sending my best to you on your trumpet journey!
@ryanstrumpet no problem Ryan.
Busy schedules always have reasons to take time to respond.
I recently had a major back surgery November 4th which has set me back some but won't cause me to stop.
I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas and safe New Year Sir.
@@davidharrison3074 Merry Christmas to you as well, David! With the back surgery, the episodes on breath/breathing may be of particular help to you right now. Especially the mantra, "exhalation is relaxation." Best wishes to you and yours :-)
@ryanstrumpet thank you. I will look at that technique. I have used box breathing for many years which is a little tough right now. I'll never quit sir. Thank you again for what you do to help others including me. 👍🏻🎺
Very interesting explanation, I will try...so I am an amateur playing French horn for about 50y now, and it is pain... Horn has a conical mouthpiece and there are the most common Eb, F and B horns (i play orchestral double and single B), but the beauty is French horn is not domicile like other horns, one day you are ready for a Carnegie Hall, next day you are trashed to depression. So I find my own way to be consistent: long notes mid range, slurred harmonics- slowly, and when it comes to High, I practice scale to one whole above I need, but newer on account of the tone, the empire that I built every day, (that was Wynton Marsalis explanation on trumpet playing), - keep in mind, you shape an air and air is all you have.
This was great wow
Wow, super cool. Been playing amateur for twenty years in various bands. Always consider my comfortable playing register stopped at C above the stave. Gave this a go and pop immediately f# 4 octaves crazy
Love it!!! So glad it feels helpful!
Great lesson. Very useful 👍
Very nice approach! Sweet sound! ❤
There are corollaries to singing here that to my knowledge have yet been 'mapped.' I wish singers understood the degree to which the diameter allowed in the vocal tract plays in how the vibrators react.
It also underscores how it is possible that trumpet player's top end can be greatly disrupted when a trumpet player loses weight (the tongue, losing fat, actually changes girth), just as singers often do. The very small change in the air pathway has huge effects.
Very good video. I will play for my singing students. (I used to be a trombonist and often teach with a mouthpiece nearby to give a clear mental picture what the unseen vocal folds are doing)
Wow this is so Helpful
THANKS! I wish I had known this 65 years ago! Too late to help me now, but that's not your fault. Masterclass stuff.
Very Helpful!
Awesome!
Cool. Good stuff. Thanks!
Wow thank you so much for that info !!! 😊
That was a great concept greatly explained, gonna give this a try
Very good video 👍🏼
Straight out of the Reinhardt Pivot System manual. It works.
OMG - thank you so much 🎺🇬🇧
Very nice🎉
I want to learn this method..Terribly exited🎺🎺🐝🐝🐝How can I learn from you??
Great!!!!!
Great video with really valuable content! Shifting the focal point also means a change in tongue position, doesn't it? The tongue arches to a maximum in the highest notes and lies pretty much flat in the low notes.
Brilliant content!! I can't wait to try and practice this, putting it into practice.
Something I would point, no related to the content itself, but would be cool on the next videos: As you made very well on separating the sections inside the video, you can make that separations and markings on the timestamps in the video, so it turns easier to watch each session and find them to rewatch (what I'll do pretty much now on!!).
Cheers!
I remember last year I struggled to consistently hit anything above an F, and then a masterclass person said to think about changing the shape of your mouth when going higher, and it literally doubled my upper range, and I can regularly play super F now. This also happened around the same time as I started expanding my lower range to the F 2 octaves below concert F.
Day 2 of saying "thank you".
I'd like to write a bit more. I've heard Adam Rapa talk about it of course, but it never "clicked" somewhat. After watching this lesson was like "Yeah I think I get it", but I didn't want to get to excited. Lo and behold, I slurred up to a high C, not "loud" per se, but clear. NOW I practice "notes", not "low notes", not "high notes". Playing high has become just playing.
Of course, the notes are a lot closer, so I have to be a lot more precise with tonguing. Speaking of which, do you have some tips to share about tonguing high notes without risking over/undershooting it?
"Playing high has become just playing." Yes! Love it!
As for the tonguing, I've found the following reminders helpful in my practice and teaching: 1) Remember that the heart of accuracy is accurately imaging (hearing in your mind) the *precise* pitch that you want, imbued with an emotional character. 7/10 times, if I alternate playing and singing (falsetto!) the accuracy challenges will either improve a lot or resolve themselves. 2) Invite/allow the strike of the tongue to be a natural extension of deliberately maintaining the same Vowell-shape or mouth-chamber-shape or tongue-position (whichever of those phrases works best for your mind). In other words, if the tongue is causing problems, it's likely causing them because it is either moving too much (and disturbing the Vowell-shape), or it's striking in a place that is incongruent with the Vowell-shape that's working when you slur to it. Bottom line: 1) hear it. 2) sing with the same Vowell shape.
Hope that helps!
@@ryanstrumpet thanks a lot! I'll keep that in mind 🤗
not many trumpet players' faces don't change the color when they play that high. Will definitely try!
I've been playing the trumpet since I was 7 years old. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how everything works. Sound is created by air being pushed from the lounges by the muscles squeezing around them and then forced through the lips and then the upper lip vibrates against the lower lip. More air (pressure) equals more volume except when ascending. The higher we play the more air pressure we need to exert to overcome the resistance created by the muscle contractions of the embouchure and the added mouthpiece pressure needed to create a seal around our embouchure. All of this is explain in Mr. Holifield's Practical Approach series of books for the Trumpet Player
Sounds like you've found what works for you. Wonderful!
Thanks, Ryan. Will definitely work on this.
I picked up my horn again, about 5 years ago, after 60+ Years. Not doing too badly. I'm starting to increase my practice time and things are sounding a bit better. I've been able to hit high D (with some effort!), and have occasionally hit an Eb and high E. But I don't own them yet. And I'm expending way too much physical energy! Hopefully your method of controlling the airflow in the chamber behind the lips will help.
I’m with you. I’m 67 and picked up my horn a year ago when my son asked me to play for his funeral. Ryan has just proven that my resonance chamber is so non standard that this doesn’t work for me. I expend way too much energy so can only practice for maybe 25 min but can get a solid C D and E.
Very impressive. Thanks. But how do you move the focal spot forward? I'm stuck in the middle register.
Great video, Ryan! That's very new information for me, too. I can't wait to try it out. Your new Lotus sounds really good 🙂
I'm loving it :-)
that isn't a suped-up Olds studio?? huh@@ryanstrumpet
Спасибо!!!👍
Thanks for this video! I’m going to try this concept. Is it actually another way of describing tongue placement?
Yes. With an understanding that the placement itself is as much about resonance as it is about airstream.... wish I'd understood it a *long* time ago! :-)
Love it
helpful. thanks
Also, sorry if I'm spamming a bit (though as far as I'm aware YT's algorithm loves comments right?), I LOVE the concept that lips are not the cause. I'm really liking it as I practice. I try NOT to think about lips when I practice. One thing that has helped me a lot with this, correct me if I'm wrong, was putting one of those clip-tuners (guitar tuners) in the bell when practicing long tones. I don't think about the lips, when my lips start giving up and I start to go flat the tuner tells me, so I don't have to worry about that, and I just strengthen my breath or raise my tongue a little bit.
It really is such an important principle.... So glad it feels helpful!
Dynamite video! I wish I would have learned this 30 years ago too. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Ryan! I'll share this with my kids at Merit. Glad you popped up on my feed :)
Hey David! Thanks for that! Episodes 2 and 3 may be the biggest help to them. Got to find center before range. So good to hear from you!
i love it. So insightful and helpful!! thank you ryan.
Thanks a lot, since I discovered this technique, I know understand how these professional trumpet player that I heard managed to catch sometimes these super high notes without any difficulty clearly and moreover playing piano, I didn't get how this was possible to make that and make it look so easy. Now I get it ! 1 question though, do you think that even with this technique, it requires a certain level of let's say "muscle" in the lips in order to make so high or is it really 90% made by the tongue position in the mouth ?
Love this question. The gentleman I study with right now, Newell Dayley, is 84, and no longer plays. In his words, he doesn't have the muscle to play anymore. But, he can pick up a horn and play a high G without any difficulty, because he knows exactly how to setup inside his mouth. To my mind, the question of muscle is more about endurance than range. Assuming a healthy, simple setup of the lips, the resonance of the mouth is extremely important, even key.
@@ryanstrumpet Thanks a lot for your reply, this helps a lot. I played a lot when I was young but stopped playing for 25 years, now it's been 4 months since I started to play again because I have a project with a band, so, in terms of muscle, I'm in the building process ! Regarding the high notes, since I saw your video, I am trying everyday to find what fits the best for me. I found out that there are different possibilities in how one can position his lips, tongue and even the teeth to make it work. And it happens sometimes that when I find the correct relative position of all this, yes, the sound goes out loud and clear.....and clean. So, now it's just a matter of practicing everyday, identify more precisely what works for me, feel it so that this can be "printed" in my body and becomes automatic.
@@sylvaincalmels1284 Check out episodes 6, 7, 8, and 9 for embouchure basics and "chop builders." If that's the phase you're in, they will likely be helpful!
This video is awesome! Thanks for the awesome new paradigm of range on the trumpet. Unfortunately watching the video makes me feel like I have cataracts or something....
Wow It's very interesting, thanks a lot to share this concept. I never heard this before. I'm a comeback player and at this moment I'm in big trouble to get back an acceptable range. I'm very interested in getting more information to work on the 3 focus points. Should it be possible for you to help ? Thx
Hi Eric --
I'm not really in a position to take on more students right now, but maybe check in with me over the summer again!
thank you
Hey Ryan, really interesting video!! I saw Adams tipps on range, the focal points make a lot of sense to me. I noticed that i use them exactly that way when i whistle, with a distinct register break when switching the focal point. I never could emulate that feeling on the trumpet though, seeing you do it just that way motivates me to try it again. Maybe i was blowing too much air, thinking i need to make the lips vibrate using breath support. Thanks a lot!
My favorite description of air is something I heard Joe Allessi say . . . . that he thought about the airstream as being "conversational."
I think that's it. . . . for reals. . . . that's all we need. If it's enough air to make the vocal folds vibrate in speech, it's enough for the lips to vibrate in trumpet-song 🙂
YESSS !
Interesting.
There's a reason I've stuck to low brass for over 20 years. My range on trumpet is absolute garbage. The only upper brass instrument I've ever been successful in playing has been horn, the back pressure is a help.
I'll be getting the trumpet out tomorrow to try this.
I agree.
Hi dear Ryan ,
I’ve been watching your videos a lot 😊
Again thanks !!
Allow me to ask a Question : when you demonstrate the transition from the first focal point to the second and third , are you actually using the exact sounds / and the exact air speed like demonstrated in the video ?! ( 6:16 minutes )
The air speed seems so “little “ ?!
What exactly is the tongue doing ?
( maybe a another video with a visualiser or something?☺️😊😊)
Thank you again ! Your fan 😀
Hi @shamslife9182 --
As best I can, yes, those are the sounds/air speed (when I'm playing well).
When I fall into less efficient habits, I tend to work much harder :-)
Sometimes, it helps my students when I have them imagine rolling a Boba pearl along the top of their mouth . . . the further back the imaginary Boba pearl, the lower the pitch.
Thank you for these questions! Please keep asking :-)
Again kind sir . Feeling flattered you answer me !
I have many questions ☺️
For the time being , to leave you your well deserved peace , i allow myself to ask only this :
When I do this exercise my throat seems to be not „opened „, blocking , or constricted , whatever we will call it . What do you recommend to „open „ the throat ?
Thanks a lot !
And let us know your patrions site ..
@@shamslife9182 You've touched on one of the most common challenges I have faced as a player, and virtually all of my students face: constricting or choking the exhale in the throat.
There are several possible causes . . . from the physical to the psychological . . . .
On the physical side, the information in the "Breath" episodes should be very helpful.
The issue often stems from simply over blowing . . . we confuse "support" with bracing ourselves or bearing down.
Refocus the energy of the exhale at the "tip of the lip," and be sure you're not "sitting down" on the air (see the second breath episode).
It may also be that the tongue is simply too high in the mouth (too close to the roof of the mouth) and is backing up the airstream.
Bottom line, if thinking about tongue level this way doesn't help your sound get more resonant, and your approach feel easier, half-whistles may not be the best door into understanding tongue level for you.
On the psychological side . . . I struggled with "clinching" for most of my career, until I had a profound experience connected to some trauma-related healing, and all of a sudden it went away. This left me wondering if "the clinch" might sometimes be connected to our ability (or inability) to settle into, trust, and confidently give expression to our inner voice. It's all so connected. . . .
Anyhow . . . keep "the real trumpet guru" close by in your practice (resonant sound, ease of response), and be willing to test and challenge every bit of information you learn until you find your own proverbial path up the mountain.
Best wishes!
Gracias!!!