Just to clear something up about PC Paintbrush. I was not aware at the time that a lot of the issues I was experiencing with it might have been caused by the VM I was using and my inexperience with such old computer operating systems and software. I simply installed PC Paintbrush and reviewed my experience with it as it was. I also want to clarify that I did not rank these older versions compared to the newer ones. I ranked them based on how simple, accessable and fun they are to use. The earlier versions had a lot of issues and annoyances that made me place them where I did on the list. If I where to change something though I'd place the original PC Paintbrush in E (given the VM issues arent there) and would put PC Paintbrush 2.0 in D. And one more thing. If I skipped a version, its because little to nothing was changed in that update. I explain that being the reason for skipping Vista in the video but the same rule applies for Windows 8 and 10 Paint.
yeah LOL. Seeing these systems in 16-color modes was triggering 199x trama "oh crap did my video drivers unalive themselves **AGAIN**". A bit like waking up and thinking you're late for your old, old school...
There's a real low chance u see this comment but anyways. I was one of those who had one of those Acer Laptops that could convert into a tablet. And it came with this app called Fresh Paint, made by ....... you guessed it, Microsoft. There's no way you'd try but just letting you know of its existence Its still on my Microsoft store library page
Fun fact about Paint 3D, it used to have the ability to browse user-submitted models and add them to your project. I can't find much on it other than A) a single article from 2018, and B) two images I have saved on my PC using models retrived from it. Those two images also probably hint at why the feature was removed, as they both contain actual models of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm guessing copyright concerns from people doing junk like that are what did it in but, again, can't find much. I just remember opening Paint 3D one day and that feature was gone.
@@MattHedgern thats so strange! But that is also giving me the idea that it would be great if there was more connectivity in the regular version of Paint like that. Maybe have weekly contests or a Miiverse like place to submit drawings to
. Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Paint deserves to be called a part of internet history, if we didn't make mlp bases or draw warrior cat oc animatics in Paint I think majority of internet artists wouldn't exist
@@Remake5182 The only time it was free was when you got a free copy of it whenever you bought a mouse. Nowadays, it's part of the microsoft tax built into every computer
@@Remake5182 because it was included in the biggest operating system, not because it was free. even if you JUST had a computer and didn't know how to do much else, you had paint installed and could draw with it
Even if it is VERY obvious those earlier animations of yours were made in MS paint, it was still kinda impressive, i can't imagine the amount of time it took to make since Paint has no layers. Amazing how you cam a long way!
can we talk about how good these drawings are?! ms paint for windows 7 was my first introduction to digital art and I remember I didn't know how to screen record anything, so I used my phone pointed at the screen, and recorded that way lol
win95's paint actually has a normal colour picker, and it draws pretty much the same as xp one, with some very minor differences. the reason it did those weird gradients in the video is because windows 95 was running in 16 bit colour mode, as opposed to the full colour mode. moreover, that also impacts performance, hence drawing wasn't the comfiest. vista had a bigger update with a different default colour palette and updated icons.
That's pretty wack that it took until 2006 to get quality of life improvements like that. Shit like that is the stuff that held back PC as an art platform for 20 years. They were doing heartstopping color-paletted art on the Amiga in 1985. But without the internet, it had nowhere to go...
It also had better zoom sliders and more undo steps. I copied it from my Vista VM and used it on Windows 7 and 8 since it was better than the Windows XP Paint but still very similar.
I know people have probably mentioned it before, but for the sake of my sanity: The pixel gradient is caused by Windows 3.1 and 95 running in 16 Colour Mode. in 256 colour mode (and beyond) you mostly get the actual colours
This also touches on a unique feature in the Windows 95/98 color pickers: next to the sliders are two boxes labeled "Color" and "Solid", and you could double-click on the latter one to round/snap the RGB values to the shown solid color. Because dithered areas interfered with the ability to flood-fill and color-erase.
@@JorArg-c7s I had actually thought about it and was planning on doing it. But I could not find a good way to record off of all those different PC's I would gave needed so I decided against it
@@Mallerd for 95 and down, you could've setup 86box. it can be annoying as hell, but would have allowed you to setup basically period accurate hardware through emulation, including proper GPUs
It makes me SO MAD this video is that underrated. I thought this was some video from 8 months ago with at least a million views but dude Peak content right here, please keep it up
You hit the nail with this one, paint being this simple is the reason why it is so good, as a child I would find myself spending countless hours on my parents pc just drawning on paint, and even nowdays as I just got into University (I'm coursing for Eletrical Enginner) I find myself going back to paint cuz drawning eletric squematics for some of the exams IS SO DAMN EASY and confortable, draw some lines, name the components, boom, that is why I love paint.
The only limit is truly your imagination, and it's possible to do soft blushes and highlights well with a bit of knack. It's great for 8 bit to 32 bit art creations, and if you need color swatches they can be imbeded into the canvas and erased as necessary. I have a caveman brain. I just want to draw, I don't want to fool around with multiple menus before my cat timer runs out.
i grew up on paint 7, and win 7 in general. its where i learned about flash games, youtube, and the internet in general. i mainly played purble place or minesweeper, but could barely remember paint. the second i saw the text bubbles i instantly remembered. what a classic version
One thing Paint 3D did have to offer 3D-wise was that you could select parts of an image and turn them into flat 3D planes, which, when used right, allowed for a very rudimentary layer system. This was neat until Microsoft added an actual layer feature into MS Paint, still, great video. Really made me appreciate Paint even further
Windows XP-7 paint will always be the nostalgic version for me it also really helped me get intouch with digital art as a whole and just messing around with stuff back when i was a kid was the most fun thing ever Thanks for making this video it really brought back a lotta nostalgia!
The main reason your colors were gradiented/dithered under Win3.1 and 95 is because of the color depth settings for the OS itself, this isn't because of the version of paint itself. 95's paint is capable of doing the same colors, this is just its way of approximating em when Windows 95 itself is disabled from showing more accurate ones.
14:50 HAWAII PART: II!!!! 24:00 there’s the guy from Hawaii part: II album cover 27:56 more Hawaii Part: II 28:59 Hawaii Part: II stair case 29:14 full Hawaii Part: II
12:12 for what it's worth, windows 95 fully supports 32-bit colour with the right driver. the colours are just becoming quantized because your display is set to a lower colour depth. in fact, even windows 3.1 supported this. the issue isn't with paint; it's trying its best to approximate a colour that the operating system isn't configured to display properly. windows xp will act similarly if you reduce the colour depth.
The staple experience of Paint as a kid is saving your drawing as a Jpeg and then opening it another time and trying to use the fill bucket and the blocky compression artifacts fucked it up, or fill bucket not affecting the pixels around text due to having no tolerance.
I remember being a child at my grandma’s that had a Windows 7 PC (My mom updated it right when it came out) and I just opened paint, fill the background black, and use the spray tool to fill that canvas with random pixels of every color that I could have made and then I would show it to my grandma. I think her computer has still that painting saved, even if now the computer has half screen made of dead pixels. Sorry for the long rant but it was a good memory that needed to be shared
The mention of trackball mice being a standard once upon a time made me turn to dust. I grew up with those, and it was a rite of passage for classmates to steal your trackball.
I'm surprised you left out Windows Vista Paint, it's sad you didn't check it out considering you loved XP paint. I'd say Vista paint is the definitive edition. It's same as the Windows XP Paint but with updated icons. It increased the undo steps from 3 to 10 (or maybe more) and had a better zoom slider you could use to easily zoom in and out, and a lot more compared to the XP paint. So it was still similar to XP paint but with a few better features. I remember I copied it from my Vista VM and used it in Windows 7 and 8 instead of the newer paint.
Paint 3D was such a wild thing. I had totally forgotten about it until watching this, but I remember playing with it for so many hours when I was younger. I made so many little projects that all got like 10% done and then never got finished lol.
(looks at title) For my money, XP. The moment anti-aliasing became a part of MS Paint was when MS Paint lost its identity. Then again, that's what I used for pixel art for quite a while. Game Maker's drawing tools were pretty much XP's Paint for a long while, but slightly better thanks to easy color-blending and letting you do transparencies if you wanted them.
one thing about paint 3d is that making drawings using the 3d shapes is fun, but i think it adds to how much of a failiure it is that its more fun making 2d art with its 3d features than doing anything 3d with them
you overlooked the version from vista, its almost the same as xp but it has the ability to zoom out the canvas further than 100%, 10 undo steps as opposed to just three, and a nicer colour pallet in my opinion
This is my absolute favorite video from you so far!! So well made, and I loved seeing all of the drawings throughout the video, can't wait to see more videos from you in the future! (Also - was not expecting that FNAF collab jumpscare and that was fun)
Great comprehensive video! Not only a good timeline of the history of the program, but funny and entertaining to boot. You can clearly see your passion come out for the little program that has always been here on PC for so long.
It's 3 or more years I'm using paint 3d to basically make EVERY 2D THING from game sprites, to concept arts for my 3d models (obviously I use blender for 3d) and even mentally editing images (to fix the fact that there are no layers I usually open more than one trasparent background tab at the same time) the magic selection feature is ALIVE: it's like trying to comunicate with an alien using a pencil and an ereaser but I usually get something acceptable. I also use it for my youtube thumbnails.
Paint is always my go to for pixel art. It's fast, simple, and not complicated. Even when I'm on someone else's PC, I still have access to it. I love that Paint finally have transparency support now so my sprites no longer have to dedicate a single colour for transparency. As for the layers, i just save each layers separately. This also lets others work on the same image since there is no complex file formats that some programs support but others don't. It's just a bunch of png images. Although, one thing that I hated about it is that the max zoom level is less than the previous versions so working on smaller res sprites is a bit more annoying. The 1px size eraser is also for some reason displayed as 2x2 pixel even though it is actually 1px.
I love seeing all the different drawings throughout this. Even if it was kind of necessary, considering these are reviews for an art program, but it shows a lot of personality and I appreciate that they aren't just generic redraws of the same basic prompts over and over
Windows 3 Paintbrush actually _can_ move selections with a transparent background; you just need to set the right-click colour to the matte you want to use, and then drag them around with the right mouse button. Perhaps the most valuable thing you missed during the 95 to XP transition was the ability to select a colour from the image with the eyedropper and then add it to the palette. Paintbrush never had that capacity, since it was envisioned as being for 16-color displays. (Although all that stuff about dithered colours could be bypassed with a good SVGA driver under Windows 3.11.) At some point they changed the colour picker for changing palette entries to default to the current primary (left-click) colour. And _another_ nifty secret: Paint 95 had not only left and right mouse button colours, but a _third_ colour accessed by ctrl-clicking with any tool.
Great video! I myself like using Paint 7, especially painting and blending colors with pencil brush. However, this video encouraged me to see for myself what Paint 3D brushes have to offer!
Honestly I LOVE this video! as someone who's always drawn in paint and even if I do have advanced programes I will always go back to paint it's fun to see how it grew! also you now have a new subscriber :D! And even the animations you did as a kid looked AMAZING! especially for ms-paint!
Paint for Windows Vista is the XP version but updated slightly. Also, Windows 95 Paint has support for full colour (at least 98 SE does), you probably had Windows set to 256 colours.
28:24 This doesn't even need a new file format, PNG supports storing multiple layers in a single file. Looking around a little, TIFF is apparently meant for this, though SVGs with embedded PNGs would be the most compatible.
The brushes in paint 3d are great, the 3d parts are awful. Nobody would genuinely use it as a modeling program when blender exists. I dont even think you can extrude in paint 3d, a very important tool for 3d modeling.
I too remember building civilizations in paint on windows xp, with each new step saved as a picture, I could then play the whole thing as an evolution over thousands of years (sometimes getting into animating scenes image after image rather than years separating them). Fun times.
I'd argue Vista/7's paint felt the most definitive simply because of how modern the UI felt at the time, and some of the options it gave you for tools was, while buggy, was pretty useful. I just wish they made a better fill bucket.
It did support 16 colors in EGA mode from the first version. The PC Paintbrush 2.0 version he talks about later shows what that looks like. It's not until version 3.0 that it supports VGA mode and 256 colors, though.
You say in the video that Paint 3d has no audience, but *it does* have an audience, just an extremely niche audience is all. The people in the Baldi’s Basics Modding Community tend to use Paint 3d to make Pre-Rendered characters - often dithered - because a lot of them aren’t experienced with other, better 3d modeling software.
this video was so good , it kept me captivated and reminded me about how i used to have fun on paint 95/xp with my sister on that old computer and how much i used to love paint 7 and draw on it often even back when i didn't have a graphic tablet and wasn't using it well, this version has flaws but for meit makes it perfect (awesome doodles and drawings btw!!)
I still use MS Paint for most of my image edits! Good ol' simplicity. My preferred versions are the classic Win95-XP Paint. I don't like the Win7 Paint and it's relatives nearly as much because it smooths out the pixels. I need my edits to be pixel perfect.
ALL the different versions of Paint you say? Where's FRESH PAINT then, buster? Where is it?? Absolute FRAUD. Obviously kidding! But Fresh Pain could use a bit of love.
I'm only halfway through the video, but the music just became Cliffside Quest from Yooka-Laylee: And the Impossible Lair and it hit me like a truck because I love this song. I'm a huge MS Paint lover. For years all I used was MS Paint, and I still return every week or so to draw art on an old Windows 7. And even on my modern Desktop and Laptop, I tend to use MS Paint for quick doodles, sketches, and edits. I adore the program and all it has done for me over the years. This video has been fascinating-- I get to see where all of this started, and how it's progressed. I appreciate this video and it was a joy to see someone else who cares this much about the program! EDIT: to defend the weird brushes in Paint 7!! I will agree that they are utterly awful and hard to use, but I've been able to get pretty good use out of a few of them. Mainly, the Spray Can, (Fancy)Pencil, and Crayon tools. I tend to always use the pencil tool, as the aliased lines allow the paint bucket to work properly. But Sometimes I will do extra shading by creating copies of the flat color versions of my canvas. I will use the crayon tool to create a detailed, painterly shading style. I'll do it a color at a time, and then paste the copy with flat colors, using that color as the transparent selection. Then I'll copy that and do the next color. You can end up with very detailed artwork in the end. Same applies for the (fancy)Pencil tool, but it's more situational. The copy transparency method is also good for applying gradients. I rarely use it because making gradients in MS Paint is a MASSIVE pain. But it's basically the only way to get the artwork colored correctly. Finally, the spray can kinda speaks for itself. It's aliased, which makes it super easy to work with. If you make the brush SUPER HUGE using ctrl+(+), the spray will be applied slower. This allows for a lot of precision shading and it's fun to mess around with. I think despite being fancy, they are simple in the sense that they are hard to work with. You have to get creative to work with such limited features, so making stuff with them feels all the more satisfying.
I love paint 3d lol, i use it all for my projects and racecar paint schemes, and have been for 4 years.... a little bit of me died when you said it was bad 😭😭😭
I wanted to mention that you lacked high color support on Windows 3.1 and 95 due to the fact that you didn't install any video drivers, which is why you couldn't choose as many colors as you could on Windows XP or later versions of Windows, oh and, the reason why drawing felt uncomfortable for you is because of how mouse emulation works in a lot of virtual machine tools and emulators, as they aren't accurate, and may likely never be.
The reason why the old paint programs had those weird color gradients, is just due to hardware limitations. You could only display 16 colors, so if you wanted anything that wasn’t one of those exact 16, you’d have to mix colors together to make them kinda smear together into the one you want.
Vinesauce joel did the bob ross painting in mario paint as well years ago and got some insane results by only using the spraycan. You can get something close to blending with how it will slowly fill the area the longer you hold it down.
Pretty cool video, I appreciate your dedication on going through every version of paint to search the best version. I personally grew my art skills on digital art on windows 7 paint, it had it's quirks of course but the pencil tool was the best drawing tool!
i've spent so much time in win8's paint (pretty much exact same as win7 iirc) you made me remember how much i was missing the bucket having brushes as filling btw great video and art
Was a great video, I enjoy from start to end. My personal fav paint is from xp too since it was my introduction to digital art, although I didn't nothing good or interesting as many people It has nothinf to do with the video but I want to congrat you for making me watch a full 30 minutes video and made it feel like it was just like 10 minutes. And also, you speak very clearly and I was able to understand you perfectly at all times, my native language is not English, so seeing that I was able to watch your video without subtitles and realizing later that it was in English was so peak. Thanks for a grat video
Was oddly nostalgic despite never using MSpaint outside of seldom instanced at school. I used MyPaint like twice and did the rest of my art and animations in Scratch for years
Man, I have spent so much time in MS Paint as a child haha! Even though I never was as good with it as you apparently are, very impressive what you can do in Paint! 🤯 I, like you, also used to make little "games" in it, like moving planets around or made a crude dress-up game for my Sister. Thanks for the nostalgia! 😁
Just to clear something up about PC Paintbrush. I was not aware at the time that a lot of the issues I was experiencing with it might have been caused by the VM I was using and my inexperience with such old computer operating systems and software. I simply installed PC Paintbrush and reviewed my experience with it as it was. I also want to clarify that I did not rank these older versions compared to the newer ones. I ranked them based on how simple, accessable and fun they are to use. The earlier versions had a lot of issues and annoyances that made me place them where I did on the list. If I where to change something though I'd place the original PC Paintbrush in E (given the VM issues arent there) and would put PC Paintbrush 2.0 in D. And one more thing. If I skipped a version, its because little to nothing was changed in that update. I explain that being the reason for skipping Vista in the video but the same rule applies for Windows 8 and 10 Paint.
yeah LOL. Seeing these systems in 16-color modes was triggering 199x trama "oh crap did my video drivers unalive themselves **AGAIN**". A bit like waking up and thinking you're late for your old, old school...
Btw, you can set wallpapers in win 3.1, I just don't think through paint itself
There's a real low chance u see this comment but anyways. I was one of those who had one of those Acer Laptops that could convert into a tablet. And it came with this app called Fresh Paint, made by ....... you guessed it, Microsoft. There's no way you'd try but just letting you know of its existence
Its still on my Microsoft store library page
Yeah the 4 colours is due to CGA graphics drivers and the 16 colours in paint is due to a lack of a 256 colour video driver.
true all windows 8 paint added were the metro and basic themes so...
Fun fact about Paint 3D, it used to have the ability to browse user-submitted models and add them to your project. I can't find much on it other than A) a single article from 2018, and B) two images I have saved on my PC using models retrived from it. Those two images also probably hint at why the feature was removed, as they both contain actual models of Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm guessing copyright concerns from people doing junk like that are what did it in but, again, can't find much. I just remember opening Paint 3D one day and that feature was gone.
@@MattHedgern thats so strange! But that is also giving me the idea that it would be great if there was more connectivity in the regular version of Paint like that. Maybe have weekly contests or a Miiverse like place to submit drawings to
i remember that feature was my favourite, so sad it’s gone
oh i remember that, i was really confused when all the models that i used to laugh at with my friends in elementary school were gone
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For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
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The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Used to mess around with it at school hah
Paint deserves to be called a part of internet history, if we didn't make mlp bases or draw warrior cat oc animatics in Paint I think majority of internet artists wouldn't exist
It's amazing how much of a step forward and step back it was, simultaneously. We had amazing computer art in 1985. It just wasn't on the IBM PC.
Yeh, but that was because Paint was free.
@@Remake5182 The only time it was free was when you got a free copy of it whenever you bought a mouse. Nowadays, it's part of the microsoft tax built into every computer
@@Remake5182 because it was included in the biggest operating system, not because it was free. even if you JUST had a computer and didn't know how to do much else, you had paint installed and could draw with it
@@sonicSnap I agree, that too.
I first started drawing digitally on paint 7. Really takes me back when I made low quality animatics. Awesome video buddy.
@@cjdestroyahanimation7729 There is just something so cozy about drawing in Paint 7! Its so cool that we share a love for that version :D
Even if it is VERY obvious those earlier animations of yours were made in MS paint, it was still kinda impressive, i can't imagine the amount of time it took to make since Paint has no layers. Amazing how you cam a long way!
Same! I grew up with windows 7, but I don't care about drawing that much nowadays.
can we talk about how good these drawings are?! ms paint for windows 7 was my first introduction to digital art and I remember I didn't know how to screen record anything, so I used my phone pointed at the screen, and recorded that way lol
Thank you so much for the compliment on the drawings :D
@@MallerdYour welcome
I always thought of Paint 3D as a different software than regular Paint
especially because theyre separate apps
me too
YEA PAINT 3D IS RHE BEST
I was cracking up a lot at the insane drawings with 0 context. Excellent video Mallerd!
win95's paint actually has a normal colour picker, and it draws pretty much the same as xp one, with some very minor differences.
the reason it did those weird gradients in the video is because windows 95 was running in 16 bit colour mode, as opposed to the full colour mode. moreover, that also impacts performance, hence drawing wasn't the comfiest.
vista had a bigger update with a different default colour palette and updated icons.
Yes exactly, that's what I came to say
That's pretty wack that it took until 2006 to get quality of life improvements like that. Shit like that is the stuff that held back PC as an art platform for 20 years. They were doing heartstopping color-paletted art on the Amiga in 1985. But without the internet, it had nowhere to go...
It also had better zoom sliders and more undo steps. I copied it from my Vista VM and used it on Windows 7 and 8 since it was better than the Windows XP Paint but still very similar.
@@tsm688What took until 2006? The post you are replying to states that Windows 95 had it. The 95 represents the year 1995.
I know people have probably mentioned it before, but for the sake of my sanity: The pixel gradient is caused by Windows 3.1 and 95 running in 16 Colour Mode. in 256 colour mode (and beyond) you mostly get the actual colours
for my sanity: the “gradient” is called dithering
I know it's called dithering, since I'm a sprite artist myself. I have no idea why in that moment I completely forgot that word lmao
This also touches on a unique feature in the Windows 95/98 color pickers: next to the sliders are two boxes labeled "Color" and "Solid", and you could double-click on the latter one to round/snap the RGB values to the shown solid color. Because dithered areas interfered with the ability to flood-fill and color-erase.
I feel like most of the problems are caused by using a virtual machine, But I don't blame you for not going through old pc/windows bs
@@JorArg-c7s I had actually thought about it and was planning on doing it. But I could not find a good way to record off of all those different PC's I would gave needed so I decided against it
@@Mallerd for 95 and down, you could've setup 86box. it can be annoying as hell, but would have allowed you to setup basically period accurate hardware through emulation, including proper GPUs
@@MallerdI use VGA to HDMI adapters with an HDMI capture card
ok but the MS Paint with Bob Ross was kinda pretty and I think I'm considering giving it a go now..........
It makes me SO MAD this video is that underrated.
I thought this was some video from 8 months ago with at least a million views but dude
Peak content right here, please keep it up
Overrated*
@@GiovanniKody100 what
do you even know what I tried to mean LOL
real
You hit the nail with this one, paint being this simple is the reason why it is so good, as a child I would find myself spending countless hours on my parents pc just drawning on paint, and even nowdays as I just got into University (I'm coursing for Eletrical Enginner) I find myself going back to paint cuz drawning eletric squematics for some of the exams IS SO DAMN EASY and confortable, draw some lines, name the components, boom, that is why I love paint.
The only limit is truly your imagination, and it's possible to do soft blushes and highlights well with a bit of knack.
It's great for 8 bit to 32 bit art creations, and if you need color swatches they can be imbeded into the canvas and erased as necessary.
I have a caveman brain. I just want to draw, I don't want to fool around with multiple menus before my cat timer runs out.
14:48 Hawaii Part: II mentioned 🗣️💯
REAL
I was just about to comment this
Let’s fucking go.
i grew up on paint 7, and win 7 in general. its where i learned about flash games, youtube, and the internet in general. i mainly played purble place or minesweeper, but could barely remember paint. the second i saw the text bubbles i instantly remembered. what a classic version
One thing Paint 3D did have to offer 3D-wise was that you could select parts of an image and turn them into flat 3D planes, which, when used right, allowed for a very rudimentary layer system. This was neat until Microsoft added an actual layer feature into MS Paint, still, great video. Really made me appreciate Paint even further
Windows XP-7 paint will always be the nostalgic version for me it also really helped me get intouch with digital art as a whole and just messing around with stuff back when i was a kid was the most fun thing ever Thanks for making this video it really brought back a lotta nostalgia!
The main reason your colors were gradiented/dithered under Win3.1 and 95 is because of the color depth settings for the OS itself, this isn't because of the version of paint itself. 95's paint is capable of doing the same colors, this is just its way of approximating em when Windows 95 itself is disabled from showing more accurate ones.
0:24 NOOO SO CLOSE TO THE CORDERR
But the other times, oh it did hit the corner meow meow
That genuinely pissed me off.
@@Cyancloud13 meow meow
@@4rumani yes meow
14:50 HAWAII PART: II!!!!
24:00 there’s the guy from Hawaii part: II album cover
27:56 more Hawaii Part: II
28:59 Hawaii Part: II stair case
29:14 full Hawaii Part: II
12:12 for what it's worth, windows 95 fully supports 32-bit colour with the right driver. the colours are just becoming quantized because your display is set to a lower colour depth. in fact, even windows 3.1 supported this.
the issue isn't with paint; it's trying its best to approximate a colour that the operating system isn't configured to display properly. windows xp will act similarly if you reduce the colour depth.
When i was younger, for some reason i tought the colors in the Windows 7 paint icon were gummy bears.
The staple experience of Paint as a kid is saving your drawing as a Jpeg and then opening it another time and trying to use the fill bucket and the blocky compression artifacts fucked it up, or fill bucket not affecting the pixels around text due to having no tolerance.
I remember being a child at my grandma’s that had a Windows 7 PC (My mom updated it right when it came out) and I just opened paint, fill the background black, and use the spray tool to fill that canvas with random pixels of every color that I could have made and then I would show it to my grandma. I think her computer has still that painting saved, even if now the computer has half screen made of dead pixels.
Sorry for the long rant but it was a good memory that needed to be shared
your editing style is incredibly engaging!! fantastic video!
Thank you so much!!! I'm really happy with how my editing skills have developed over the course of making these videos :D
21:28 ayo dutch jumpscare xD
I should've expected from the accent but still ! Gekoloniseerd ;)
@@TheGameBoyss Ik hou van verven op de computer
Man, I love it when I put a _black canvas_ on my _black canvas_ so the _black canvas_ turns into a _black canvas_
Mate, unlike me, you actually know what you're doing when it comes to MS Paint. I had no idea you could make 2D animations with MS Paint.
The mention of trackball mice being a standard once upon a time made me turn to dust. I grew up with those, and it was a rite of passage for classmates to steal your trackball.
14:48 TALLY HALL MENTIONED, THE HOARDE HAS BEEN SUMMONED
There was also a Windows 8 spin-off called Fresh Paint, that’s largely forgotten
I'm surprised you left out Windows Vista Paint, it's sad you didn't check it out considering you loved XP paint. I'd say Vista paint is the definitive edition. It's same as the Windows XP Paint but with updated icons. It increased the undo steps from 3 to 10 (or maybe more) and had a better zoom slider you could use to easily zoom in and out, and a lot more compared to the XP paint. So it was still similar to XP paint but with a few better features. I remember I copied it from my Vista VM and used it in Windows 7 and 8 instead of the newer paint.
Awesome video! The transparency icons at 12:22 were so nostalgic lol. So many memories.
Paint 3D was such a wild thing. I had totally forgotten about it until watching this, but I remember playing with it for so many hours when I was younger. I made so many little projects that all got like 10% done and then never got finished lol.
The 10% done and never getting finished projects I've made kinda hold a special nostalgic place in my head haha
I love all the little drawings and doodles just in the background
(looks at title)
For my money, XP. The moment anti-aliasing became a part of MS Paint was when MS Paint lost its identity. Then again, that's what I used for pixel art for quite a while. Game Maker's drawing tools were pretty much XP's Paint for a long while, but slightly better thanks to easy color-blending and letting you do transparencies if you wanted them.
The Windows XP and Windows 7 versions are peak
one thing about paint 3d is that making drawings using the 3d shapes is fun, but i think it adds to how much of a failiure it is that its more fun making 2d art with its 3d features than doing anything 3d with them
you overlooked the version from vista, its almost the same as xp but it has the ability to zoom out the canvas further than 100%, 10 undo steps as opposed to just three, and a nicer colour pallet in my opinion
omg i love how creative you are with your drawings
This is my absolute favorite video from you so far!! So well made, and I loved seeing all of the drawings throughout the video, can't wait to see more videos from you in the future!
(Also - was not expecting that FNAF collab jumpscare and that was fun)
@@HillelArt thank you so much Hillel. Also the Springtrap from the collab is literally one of my favoritr drawings Ive ever made haha
Great comprehensive video! Not only a good timeline of the history of the program, but funny and entertaining to boot. You can clearly see your passion come out for the little program that has always been here on PC for so long.
@@SwooshxBear I absolutely love Paint! It has meant a lot for me and I sincerly hope it will continue to mean a lot to other people in the future
It's 3 or more years I'm using paint 3d to basically make EVERY 2D THING from game sprites, to concept arts for my 3d models (obviously I use blender for 3d) and even mentally editing images (to fix the fact that there are no layers I usually open more than one trasparent background tab at the same time) the magic selection feature is ALIVE: it's like trying to comunicate with an alien using a pencil and an ereaser but I usually get something acceptable.
I also use it for my youtube thumbnails.
“This version is so incredibly limiting, you can’t make anything good with it”
*proceeds to make a piece better than anything I could ever do*
Finished the video and was shocked by the view count. This video deserves so much more love and praise
Paint is always my go to for pixel art. It's fast, simple, and not complicated. Even when I'm on someone else's PC, I still have access to it. I love that Paint finally have transparency support now so my sprites no longer have to dedicate a single colour for transparency. As for the layers, i just save each layers separately. This also lets others work on the same image since there is no complex file formats that some programs support but others don't. It's just a bunch of png images.
Although, one thing that I hated about it is that the max zoom level is less than the previous versions so working on smaller res sprites is a bit more annoying. The 1px size eraser is also for some reason displayed as 2x2 pixel even though it is actually 1px.
I watched this video and couldn't stop watching, loved seeing the Realign cover you did in Paint 11 btw xD
@@ManicBestia Im so happy somebody already recognized that cover!!! One of my favorite albums of all time. It means a lot to me
Everything about XP is definitive.
Great video 👏
my favorite part about this video are the drawings you've made along all the paint versions
I love seeing all the different drawings throughout this. Even if it was kind of necessary, considering these are reviews for an art program, but it shows a lot of personality and I appreciate that they aren't just generic redraws of the same basic prompts over and over
The people have spoken! We need MS Paint: Remastered.
Windows 3 Paintbrush actually _can_ move selections with a transparent background; you just need to set the right-click colour to the matte you want to use, and then drag them around with the right mouse button.
Perhaps the most valuable thing you missed during the 95 to XP transition was the ability to select a colour from the image with the eyedropper and then add it to the palette. Paintbrush never had that capacity, since it was envisioned as being for 16-color displays. (Although all that stuff about dithered colours could be bypassed with a good SVGA driver under Windows 3.11.) At some point they changed the colour picker for changing palette entries to default to the current primary (left-click) colour.
And _another_ nifty secret: Paint 95 had not only left and right mouse button colours, but a _third_ colour accessed by ctrl-clicking with any tool.
Great video! I myself like using Paint 7, especially painting and blending colors with pencil brush. However, this video encouraged me to see for myself what Paint 3D brushes have to offer!
Honestly I LOVE this video! as someone who's always drawn in paint and even if I do have advanced programes I will always go back to paint it's fun to see how it grew! also you now have a new subscriber :D!
And even the animations you did as a kid looked AMAZING! especially for ms-paint!
Paint for Windows Vista is the XP version but updated slightly. Also, Windows 95 Paint has support for full colour (at least 98 SE does), you probably had Windows set to 256 colours.
You forgot Windows Vista's MS Paint !
It's Windows XP's with a nicer UI, a better default color palette and a larger undo buffer.
Your drawings are awesome, even in the old versions of paint. 😊
27:57 HAWAII PART 2??
28:24 This doesn't even need a new file format, PNG supports storing multiple layers in a single file.
Looking around a little, TIFF is apparently meant for this, though SVGs with embedded PNGs would be the most compatible.
The brushes in paint 3d are great, the 3d parts are awful. Nobody would genuinely use it as a modeling program when blender exists. I dont even think you can extrude in paint 3d, a very important tool for 3d modeling.
Yeah plus you can rotate sh!t or adjust bucket strength or blah blah blah
I too remember building civilizations in paint on windows xp, with each new step saved as a picture, I could then play the whole thing as an evolution over thousands of years (sometimes getting into animating scenes image after image rather than years separating them). Fun times.
Also your username makes sense now "typ hier om te zoeken"... LOL!
@@easycompzeelandold2521 ik ben blij dat iemand eens niet denkt dat mijn username een eend moet voorstellen
him: **talking**
me: **waiting for the logo to hit the corner**
I'd argue Vista/7's paint felt the most definitive simply because of how modern the UI felt at the time, and some of the options it gave you for tools was, while buggy, was pretty useful.
I just wish they made a better fill bucket.
2:36 can it be that you only have 4 eye-bleeding colors because you run in CGA mode? Wikipedia says it supported EGA too, should be better.
It did support 16 colors in EGA mode from the first version. The PC Paintbrush 2.0 version he talks about later shows what that looks like. It's not until version 3.0 that it supports VGA mode and 256 colors, though.
Can we just talk about how cultured this man is in different franchises?
You say in the video that Paint 3d has no audience, but *it does* have an audience, just an extremely niche audience is all. The people in the Baldi’s Basics Modding Community tend to use Paint 3d to make Pre-Rendered characters - often dithered - because a lot of them aren’t experienced with other, better 3d modeling software.
There's people modding Baldi's Basics? 💀
@@declanmoore yeah, it was made in unity, so it’s pretty easy to mod
@@declanmoore It's been happening for a long time now
"I'm going to call it Caveman Paint from now on"
*Proceeds to keep calling it PC Paintbrush, and barely use that nickname afterwards*
I literally didn't use it after that point haha. Admittedly a mistake on my part
@@Mallerd Thank you for responding! It could potentially be confusing anyway, to be fair
@@Mallerd fatal mistake
BTW these are not "color gradients" this is called color dithering.
Referring to 14:21 and older paint versions
you are so good at drawing!
my man drew every single of my favorite music artists, MGMT, Tally Hall (or Miracle Musical).. awesome video
The Rare MGMT AND Tally Hall fan Unite!
14:50 HOLY SHIT HAWAII PART II SKDVVW9SXVWUS
Oh cool a video about MSPaint.
*watching the video*
Paint got LAYERS???
Very recent and bare bones feature.
this video was so good , it kept me captivated and reminded me about how i used to have fun on paint 95/xp with my sister on that old computer and how much i used to love paint 7 and draw on it often even back when i didn't have a graphic tablet and wasn't using it well, this version has flaws but for meit makes it perfect (awesome doodles and drawings btw!!)
I still use MS Paint for most of my image edits! Good ol' simplicity. My preferred versions are the classic Win95-XP Paint. I don't like the Win7 Paint and it's relatives nearly as much because it smooths out the pixels. I need my edits to be pixel perfect.
ALL the different versions of Paint you say? Where's FRESH PAINT then, buster? Where is it??
Absolute FRAUD.
Obviously kidding! But Fresh Pain could use a bit of love.
I'm only halfway through the video, but the music just became Cliffside Quest from Yooka-Laylee: And the Impossible Lair and it hit me like a truck because I love this song.
I'm a huge MS Paint lover. For years all I used was MS Paint, and I still return every week or so to draw art on an old Windows 7.
And even on my modern Desktop and Laptop, I tend to use MS Paint for quick doodles, sketches, and edits.
I adore the program and all it has done for me over the years. This video has been fascinating-- I get to see where all of this started, and how it's progressed. I appreciate this video and it was a joy to see someone else who cares this much about the program!
EDIT: to defend the weird brushes in Paint 7!! I will agree that they are utterly awful and hard to use, but I've been able to get pretty good use out of a few of them. Mainly, the Spray Can, (Fancy)Pencil, and Crayon tools. I tend to always use the pencil tool, as the aliased lines allow the paint bucket to work properly. But Sometimes I will do extra shading by creating copies of the flat color versions of my canvas. I will use the crayon tool to create a detailed, painterly shading style. I'll do it a color at a time, and then paste the copy with flat colors, using that color as the transparent selection. Then I'll copy that and do the next color. You can end up with very detailed artwork in the end. Same applies for the (fancy)Pencil tool, but it's more situational. The copy transparency method is also good for applying gradients. I rarely use it because making gradients in MS Paint is a MASSIVE pain. But it's basically the only way to get the artwork colored correctly.
Finally, the spray can kinda speaks for itself. It's aliased, which makes it super easy to work with. If you make the brush SUPER HUGE using ctrl+(+), the spray will be applied slower. This allows for a lot of precision shading and it's fun to mess around with.
I think despite being fancy, they are simple in the sense that they are hard to work with. You have to get creative to work with such limited features, so making stuff with them feels all the more satisfying.
i loved this video, i think your art is really cool and hearing the splatoon music was such a pleasant surprise :)
Paint 95, XP and 7 were peak
I love paint 3d lol, i use it all for my projects and racecar paint schemes, and have been for 4 years.... a little bit of me died when you said it was bad 😭😭😭
I loved watching that. I've seen plenty of histories of illustration or drawing, but, until now, nothing of the digital versions.
Had to go see if Vista had a version of paint... It's Paint XP with new graphics
This is an excellent video! Very well made!
dude these paintings are absolutely amazing
when I was kid, I'm mostly remember paint XP on an old computer (yes, the one that looks like a white box or a TV)
I wanted to mention that you lacked high color support on Windows 3.1 and 95 due to the fact that you didn't install any video drivers, which is why you couldn't choose as many colors as you could on Windows XP or later versions of Windows, oh and, the reason why drawing felt uncomfortable for you is because of how mouse emulation works in a lot of virtual machine tools and emulators, as they aren't accurate, and may likely never be.
The reason why the old paint programs had those weird color gradients, is just due to hardware limitations. You could only display 16 colors, so if you wanted anything that wasn’t one of those exact 16, you’d have to mix colors together to make them kinda smear together into the one you want.
My definitive version of Paint is PaintNET. A nice bridge between MS Paint and more advanced software, plus it's free
Vinesauce joel did the bob ross painting in mario paint as well years ago and got some insane results by only using the spraycan. You can get something close to blending with how it will slowly fill the area the longer you hold it down.
when you started drawing hawaii: part ii i deadass pointed at my screen and said "hawaii: part ii? hawaii: part ii?" tally hell has consumed me
Paint 7 is THE GOAT
Pretty cool video, I appreciate your dedication on going through every version of paint to search the best version.
I personally grew my art skills on digital art on windows 7 paint, it had it's quirks of course but the pencil tool was the best drawing tool!
I think the default paint brush is unironically one of my favorite digital brushes ever
@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW I will agree with you. It is a classic, just a little annoying for the paint bucket tool.
i love old win vista paint. it's basically XP paint but with better zooming. best.
As a certified paint enthusiast (I made my first drawing when I was 2 or 3), I grew up on Windows XP paint so obviously it's the best
i've spent so much time in win8's paint (pretty much exact same as win7 iirc)
you made me remember how much i was missing the bucket having brushes as filling
btw great video and art
Was a great video, I enjoy from start to end. My personal fav paint is from xp too since it was my introduction to digital art, although I didn't nothing good or interesting as many people
It has nothinf to do with the video but I want to congrat you for making me watch a full 30 minutes video and made it feel like it was just like 10 minutes. And also, you speak very clearly and I was able to understand you perfectly at all times, my native language is not English, so seeing that I was able to watch your video without subtitles and realizing later that it was in English was so peak. Thanks for a grat video
Was oddly nostalgic despite never using MSpaint outside of seldom instanced at school. I used MyPaint like twice and did the rest of my art and animations in Scratch for years
Man, I have spent so much time in MS Paint as a child haha! Even though I never was as good with it as you apparently are, very impressive what you can do in Paint! 🤯
I, like you, also used to make little "games" in it, like moving planets around or made a crude dress-up game for my Sister. Thanks for the nostalgia! 😁
You made me watch 30min about MS Paint. Congratulations 👏🎉
Appreciate it my man!
I love all the art doodles you made for this video