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Musty, a couple of suggestions for your channel if you don't mind. For your new videos: recording your tracks without the jam tracks, adding this later if you want - I'm sure most viewers want to hear the tone of each gear, from pickup to the speaker, by themself, not mixed because the jam track distracts from the original tone. And, a video where you try different settings on the Green Russian with your amp alone set up as you like it, and also changing them on the amp to see how it can sound bad, fizzy or muddy, if the setting is not fine on the amp side too. One of your videos I liked best is the one where you are seated on the floor setting up your amp and pedals with no jam track going on. Cheers.
Problem with your theory is, guitars were designed to be played with other musicians as in a live setting. If you're going to spend your entire existence playing by yourself then you're really missing the point of being a musician.
Finally! Somebody who knows how to use a fuzz pedal without treating it like a distortion pedal. I believe that soaring leads is where the Big Muff shines, and when you're shredding with one, you're really missing the point of a SUSTAINER pedal. Great job.
The biggest problem with Muffs is cutting through. Most Muffs have a scooped eq, not conducive to cutting through. The best solution I have found is running a treble booster into the Muff. It also helps if you use a Muff that has a bit more mids, like the Russian Muff.
Hi Musty!! I'm the guy who asked you about big muff pi and AC15 amp having tone problems (muddy, dark and a lot of bass). I have changed the pedal order and it got a lot better. Now my chain is: guitar -> Blues Driver -> Big Muff -> Delay -> Amp. Also I had to find better eq setting in my AC15 like cutting tone, lowering treble a bit and so on. It got better but its not optimal as your tone. Thanks for your videos!
I'm a huge pumpkins fan and use a Strat into ac15 finding muffs to not really work for big solos even though they sound great alone. I definitely noticed improvements when cutting bass before the muff, and they also seem to react well to taking more gain on, however I've found it tricky to "re-voice" the muff with pedals after it, other than an EQ or very transparent drive types. I think the foxx tone machine and a few other higher compression fuzzes can do great muff impressions too- stacking a few drives with lower gain and cascade into big saturation. Good luck!
Try using the normal channel of the AC15, the Top Boost channel is famously not great with pedals. Using a mid boosted overdrive (tube screamers, klons and the like) before the big muff are great as well, especially live. You don’t even have to add gain, and it just helps push things along. Lastly, doing some research into which BM you’re using and the differences between them is worthwhile, as they all do things differently.
I have 70's dynacomp Green muff reissue 80's Guvnor Mooer crunch Mooer Elady flange Mooer 90 phaser Tc Echo v1 Ehx holy stain ( reverb/chorus/trem) Into pro jr This video has helped me balance my tone more Thanks
I really thought this was a great vid … you demonstrated much and informationally very exceptional. I’ll try these tips. Don’t sell yourself short on “tone is in the fingers” … you did what is not easy, you properly emulated how DG plays.
Great Video and great tones !!! Just, when you put a number behind the volume, sustain or gain, is it on a scale of 15? 20? Or should the numbers be considered like hours on a clock, and 14 is then if it was 14:00 on a clock ?? Thank you !
Very good pedal, I used to own one. I gave it away to one of my good friends. He didn't use it one bit and doesn't even give it back. I can do a review if I can get another one.
Awesome video Musty, as a relative beginner this is so helpful. When I have my muff set to unity it is about 9.30, volume if I was to run it at 14.00 I'd be fielding calls from down the street lol. Do you just adjust your amp volume when bumping the muff up that high? I'm just confused as I was led to believe to run pedals at unity volume. I love this channel !!
Hey Musty, great channel on Gilmour/Pink Floyd. Congrats. I saw the other day an old post of yours here asking advice about how to set up your Big Muff with your Laney Cub 12r because you couldn't get these great tones you achieve now. How did you do it? did you change the speaker or tubes on this amp? or is it just better settings on both sides? Cheers.
nothing is changed, I just experiment with tone knobs better. I hear my amp better, I can pair pedals better. It's all about playing more and trying new things. I used to record with the mic going a bit off just to have a bit darker sounds. It wasn't the best idea. you know, it's funny, sometimes I record the best, THE BEST video. 2 months later it's crap to my ears like Stan Marsh from South Park. 5 months later I'm trying to get that exact sound again... This sh*t will never extinct and that is why we love guitar, pedals, amps.
@@mustyguitar Good to hear you didn't mod the amp, only your ears. I guess you increased the mids. You must know Big Muffs work better with amps that have good mids, like Hiwatt and Marshall, and not with Fender and Vox.
@@mustyguitar I personally found it a major improvement, but I can't tell you what to do, my friend - I don't believe that my experience justifies such advice. Also, your tone is excellent so.... :)
Hi Mustafa, I really appreciate all the hard work that you put into this channel! Could you please help me attain the heavy raw fuzz tone on Time '72 Rainbow Theater concert, pre DSOTM release? I believe he was using a fuzz face into a uni-vibe. This live recording has the best versions of these classics, I think.
a big muff cannot get that sound, I tried countless settings with at least 5-6 different big muffs. personally I don't like that gritty fuzz sounds, I don't like pompeii sounds as well. So I didn't experiment with a whole lot of vintage fuzz pedals, but I played: - *sunface bc108* and it does great sounds regarding dark side and wembley 1974 sounds - *jam pedals fuzz phrase* great for dark side, even though it's germanium, maybe needs a bit more gain from the amp if you're playing low output pickups. you can use overdrive as well for boosting. - *boss fz-1w* PERFECT sounding fuzz for me, it's silicon, it's boss, powering is easy, sounds very good for pompeii and dark side studio tones. I briefly played it so I didn't try a whole lot of different sounds. - *Dunlop JHF1* someone from the comments recommended to me, I'm so sorry I can't remember the name :I sounds wonderful and has great clean up sound. Perfect for time solo and pompeii sounds. I tried a few different jim dunlop and a couple more "boutique" fuzzes but these 4 would be my choice. I'm gonna cover some 1972-1974 sounds in the near future when I get a few pedals in a few months, when I go to italy, so I can't give more defined answers right now. edit: honestly, the tone on echoes funky part, the one I played with big muff sounds very, veery good for my taste. Only 1975 LA concert has better sound than a big muff I guess, but this is my opinion and it always changes :D
I have a Big Muff Pi (first fuzz pedal I bought back in 2016 when my band was playing a Smashing Pumpkins song because I wanted to get Billy Corgan's guitar tone (which I've always loved)) and I bought a Ram's Head last summer so I could have a smaller fuzz pedal for my board (plus I wanted to get Gilmour's tones as well), and have actually gotten kinda close with mine so I'll definitely be using some of these settings as well because they sound damn good. I just want to ask which song are you playing for the last example, I've never heard that song but it sounded absolutely awesome
i have a fond appreciation for the green russian muff now. it only took me a year and kit raes big muff page to realize that it is actually alot better than i thought. but i still like my patriarch more due its versatility. my only problem now is some circuits of rams head dont fit my setup all that well. i have a 73 rams head and i think its tone is kinda dull, even with a bright compressor. have you tried any more varients of rams head, or is the reissue just hard to beat.
Nice chops but having a hard time understanding the settings you suggest. The "MAX" is pretty self explanatory but if the knobs max out at 10 why v: 14 and tone: 11. Can you help me to understand. It would also help if the still image of the pedal showed the settings youre suggesting. Thanks
Hey bro. Thank you so much for all you do. Question: with the differemt volume settings, I find that I am not close to unity. So when I turn off the Muff the volume drops dramatically. I'm not sure what to do about that. Especially at a gig where sometimes I need it and sometimes I don't. When you are not at unity you constsntly have to readjust your pedals mid gig and that looks bad bent over your board all the time
I enjoy your videos. What do you mean when you say that volume or tone is set at 10 or 14, etc. Is max at 20? I might suggest going to a 1-100% percentage scale.
Gotcha. I suspected you might be using a 24 clock, but I’ve never used 24 hour time on an analog 12 hour clock face. Conversion is easy, though. Thank you.
Hi really like your vids can you use just the classic big muff + a boss blues driver just the 2 peddles how would you set them up to get somewhere nr the gilmore tone great vid by the way great playing
Hey Patrick, So, I tried classic white big muff too but it's really not that good, at least for my taste. I needed to work on it so much, with EQ or with another drive pedal. Even then, it didn't sound right for me. You can try to kill that muffled, boomy, boxy fuzz sound with an EQ but that still wouldn't be quite right. I suggest you get a big muff like this one, it's budget friendly actually and Boss BD-2 can sound awesome with it, or on it's own for overdrive tones. watch this video about bd-2: th-cam.com/video/oLRxnvQkCaA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Musty iam trying to build some sort of small rig i got the older looking big muff the bigger type one and a boss BD2 waza what sort of phaser would be good + a MXR phase 90 or scripts may be ? or what would you suggest to add to my build iam new to this i could never get what you have thats out of my price range i just want some idea of getting a similar floyd sounds thanks for any help keep up the great info and guitar workyou are doing@@mustyguitar
@@patricklennon8345 I think the best phaser is the script logo mxr custom shop. but before the phaser, I think you should consider changing your big muff, because that big silver box model is not ideal for Gilmour's big muff sounds. It's so fizzy. I'm not saying that won't sound good, but it wouldn't be ideal.
@@patricklennon8345phase95 is the best Mxr phaser. It gets the best of both 90 and 45 tones. Script Phase 45 setting is best for 70s Gilmour tones (for me).
Hey man. I just became a Patreon. I love your content and your explanations are so much better than the other DG tone channels. I wish I didn't have to sacrifice anything because your videos are so great. But I do. And I know you put so much work into your product. But your tone settings have always been a source of confusion. On the other "inferior" channels, they put actual pics of their pedals with the actual settings. This makes it so easy to screenshot and emulate. You, on the other hand place generic photos and describe your settings. What does V14 or Tone 13 even mean if there are no markings on the unit. In another video you described the RT 20 as "Wet 9 Dry 11". The RT 20 does not have these settings. Still with you brother. Just trying to give some constructive critique so we can better understand.
First of all, thank you for the constructive comment. I love reading these. "You" are the reason videos are better than last year. And gonna be better next year. Second, everyone, and I mean everyone I interact talks like "gain around 12 o'clock" and it became this lingo. I just didn't think it would be that problematic, since, what else can that mean? on scale of what? Of course it's o'clock because it's like a standard. Or, or, maybe that's the way "I" think and yeah couple of other comments said the same thing, I should've add "o'clock" :) Third and most important, the actual settings are ACTUALLY at the screen of the start of each solo :) I don't know what's confusing about that, don't think this the wrong way, I'm really curious and expecting feedback on this. I just write on a plain background, with pedals, and settings, and even on my Patreon, I literally go pedal by pedal. How can that be confusing and how can I make this better? You can get screenshot of this video on the screens and of course play with them a little, I mean, that's obvious. How can EVERY SETTING give you the same result on different setup and different volume and different guitar and different room? How is 01:22 confusing? How is 09:54 confusing? Mooer has level, depth and rate. L-D-R. green russian has volume, tone, gain, V-T-G. Forth, I always experiment with settings, sometimes on some tone, I use RT20 with wet 9 dry 11 and sometimes I use wet 7 dry 12. There isn't a fixed setting for anything man. I share whatever I feel needs to be shared. If I liked rt20 on wet 9 dry 11 settings 5 months ago, and now favor 7 and 12, why would that be confusing or anything? They are both different sounds for different applications. On the turning away on this video has wet 9 and dry 11. Not now john has wet 7 and dry 12. AREN'T THEY DIFFERENT SOUNDING FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS? :) Try them both, see for yourself. I used to use big muff on tone knob very low, it sounded good at that time for my taste, now I prefer to have a bit more treble. Doesn't that very common thing? I share both settings and if you use those settings, you get the tone on the video, of course every rig might differ and you might need to experiment. So I can offer you a refund if you're not satisfied with Patreon, instantly, like right now. I'm building a page there that's an archive, FOR ME FIRST. Most of the times when I prepare a video, I go back and watch it myself and say: "nice tone, sh*t, I'm gonna use the same thing now", because those sounds are a result of trying out several different pedals, hundreds of settings and countless hours. Or I say "how did I play this thing, let me check the tutorial or tab". If anyone wants to join the fun there, it's their call :) just like you, who are welcome! Honestly, I don't think this is confusing but rather very, very, VERY, VEEERY easy to understand. I f*kin wish there was a video like this back when I started this channel. I would give my right ball for this. Just a guy says he's gonna try to get stuff, (personally) sounds awesome, shares it, gives me all the pedals and settings. What else can there be in a video? Well, maybe "o'clock" :)
I bought a black Russian Muff in my 20s because it was cheaper than the US made Muff and I was broke from drinking with my friends 😂 I was shocked to learn years later that, ironically, the Sovtek Muff is worth a lot more than its NYC counterpart of the same era. I know just about every "secret to better tone" trick for the Big Muff but I'm surprised somebody said it sounds thin. That's literally the opposite of what a Muff sounds like.
@@mustyguitar I'm not sure how the it compares to the green Russian because I've only used the black and the current NYC Nano Muffs. It has an almost overwhelming amount of low end and it sounds cleaner, or less saturated. Almost like there's clean signal blended in parallel to the Muff's signal. But yes, the mid-scoop can cause the guitar to disappear behind others instruments. I never thought of using thin as an adjective to describe it. I use a Wampler overdrive with a 3 band EQ before the Muff in my signal chain. Volume at unity, gain at minimum, mids past noon, bass and treble to taste. Another overdrive, the Electro-Harmonix Hot Tubes, is my dirty boost/compression between the Muff and Modeller or audio interface. It's a very versatile and severely underrated overdrive and I think it's the lowest cost drive they sell currently. Truly a hidden gem.
Thank you for your work, amazing stuff. What do you think of cheaper big muff alternatives? I got myself Big Fuzz by MoskyAudio recently, and I love the "Gilmour tones" I get. I can totally understand if you are pedal purist though and don't look at cheaper stuff 😁😁
well, the cheapest I tried is mooer's triangle clone I guess, which is just a bit more cheaper that green russian. It sounds like it's trying to do a good job but it doesn't :) I actually like mooer's stuff quite a lot. moskyaudio big fuzz looks like it can do a lot of different style, like tonebender, which is cool, but I think demos out there doesn't sound very good. I personally am first time hearing the pedal from you. I'm not pedal purist btw, most of the stuff on my channel, that I use very, VERY regularly are very cheap. BD-2, cheap mxr dynacomp mini, green russian, ram's head. these are not that expensive man, did you see some "boutique" pedals or whatever that means... I'm a believer that you can get great tones with even the cheapest stuff. Probably amazon basics has good pedals on it too that we can work on :)
@@mustyguitar thanks for the answer. The reason I wanted to try moskyaudio big fuzz is because Josh Scott once tried their previous take on big muff called "Mini Muff" on a stream and said that it is identical to big muff and really recommended it. So as far as I understand the first mode on that pedal is 𝝅 which is supposed to be big muff. I have no way of comparing the two though. It's been couple of months since I got into effects pedals. Never cared about matching someone's tones before. Your channel is a great inspiration and such a gem for a Gilmour fan! Never met a bigger tone geek
@@odeo- listening a lot of pedals without seeing them is really a game changer. I love doing blind tests. I always surprise myself. I did a lot a few years later and always landed on the pedals I'm using now. I'm gonna do a full pedalboard video. in the near future.
I covered the best sorrow dvd solo and it's gonna be live one of these days. I tried a couple of different big muffs for my tone guide on Patreon about sorrow pulse dvd sound, I think I got as close to it as any man in a bedroom can. I show alternative pedals and sounds, SOOO, yeah, patriarch sounds wonderful and I recommend it.
I'm struggling to follow the numbering on the pedals here. What would 14 correlate to on the pedals?? usually I'd read people taking about 12 o'clock/ noon - being straight up the middle. 2 o'clock being to the right of noon.. what would 14 be?? :)
The "tone is in the fingers" BS annoys me too. Dynamics are in the fingers, but tone is in the gear. Not even the people who say that really believe in it. Otherwise they wouldn't be buying and pursuing specific gear.
I tried it on a guitar store very briefly, I think it's closer to fuzz face than a big muff. It's a tone bender type pedal? It would do better for earlier Gilmour tones I guess but don't expect a Comfortably Numb out of it. Just my opinion.
My question about the big muff: i use the green russian through the cub 12r 1w input but... if i use the vol knob past 9oclock on the big muff it literally blows the doors to the room off! How should i be using the volume knob?
@@mustyguitar i have vox ac10 and i use a compressor and after big muff green with delay mxr carbon copy … just before Regardless of the songs i have chorus corona and At the end of the chain a reverb pedal corona too… ahhh a pedal volume its very important for gilmour style
@mustyguitar sorry 😅 i would really like to rejoin the patreon some day soon. I tend to run the gain around 4 and the volume about 5 and everything else changes depending on what im playing
Hey, whenever I solo using a big muff (I don't have this issue with overdrives), some of the notes (the higher the worst) cut after I play them making it impossible to sustain a note (like a noise gate that's too sensitive), anyone else has that issue ?
@@mustyguitar Sorry I'm only seeing your message now!!!!!!!!!!! Turns out my pedal was underpowered lol everything works fine now that I have a proper power supply
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Should we do overdrive an compression version of this video?
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Musty, a couple of suggestions for your channel if you don't mind. For your new videos: recording your tracks without the
jam tracks, adding this later if you want - I'm sure most viewers want to hear the tone of each gear, from pickup to the
speaker, by themself, not mixed because the jam track distracts from the original tone. And, a video where you try
different settings on the Green Russian with your amp alone set up as you like it, and also changing them on the amp
to see how it can sound bad, fizzy or muddy, if the setting is not fine on the amp side too. One of your videos I liked best
is the one where you are seated on the floor setting up your amp and pedals with no jam track going on. Cheers.
Agree with this
We're here for the supposed how to.
Ok you can play great...
Waste of my time
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😂😂You remind me of Rick with a silent P@@RobertMurphy-wm3ge
Problem with your theory is, guitars were designed to be played with other musicians as in a live setting. If you're going to spend your entire existence playing by yourself then you're really missing the point of being a musician.
@@RobertMurphy-wm3ge Let's see your demo then, tough guy.
Finally! Somebody who knows how to use a fuzz pedal without treating it like a distortion pedal. I believe that soaring leads is where the Big Muff shines, and when you're shredding with one, you're really missing the point of a SUSTAINER pedal.
Great job.
The biggest problem with Muffs is cutting through. Most Muffs have a scooped eq, not conducive to cutting through. The best solution I have found is running a treble booster into the Muff. It also helps if you use a Muff that has a bit more mids, like the Russian Muff.
Maybe learn to dial your amp correctly then?
Since you’re so smart and savvy, maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and create your own video.
man you really nailed those tones and the licks too! outstanding work
Great work man, great!
amazing tones and guideline once again!!
Sweet playing sir.
"Tone is all in the fingers = bullshit." Agree. 100%. Unless you count writing the checks, clicking the "buy" button and twirling the knobs as "tone."
Tone is its own thing and it usually comes at the cost of good playing.
Outstanding as always. Killer tones. Glad I picked up one of these muffs. Thank you! 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
you got it!
Thank you so much for this Demo!!!!!! Very much appreciated! 🤘
Hi Musty!! I'm the guy who asked you about big muff pi and AC15 amp having tone problems (muddy, dark and a lot of bass). I have changed the pedal order and it got a lot better. Now my chain is: guitar -> Blues Driver -> Big Muff -> Delay -> Amp. Also I had to find better eq setting in my AC15 like cutting tone, lowering treble a bit and so on. It got better but its not optimal as your tone. Thanks for your videos!
I'm a huge pumpkins fan and use a Strat into ac15 finding muffs to not really work for big solos even though they sound great alone. I definitely noticed improvements when cutting bass before the muff, and they also seem to react well to taking more gain on, however I've found it tricky to "re-voice" the muff with pedals after it, other than an EQ or very transparent drive types. I think the foxx tone machine and a few other higher compression fuzzes can do great muff impressions too- stacking a few drives with lower gain and cascade into big saturation. Good luck!
Try a boost before the Muff, a common & obvs one for this is a tube screamer as it’s cutting the lows & you can shape the mids
Try using the normal channel of the AC15, the Top Boost channel is famously not great with pedals. Using a mid boosted overdrive (tube screamers, klons and the like) before the big muff are great as well, especially live. You don’t even have to add gain, and it just helps push things along. Lastly, doing some research into which BM you’re using and the differences between them is worthwhile, as they all do things differently.
Thanks! I never use top boost unless he keyboard player forgets his amp i let him use my too boost
Thanks! I never use top boost unless he keyboard player forgets his amp i let him use my top boost
Thank you for this insane video! I know what my next pedal’s gonna be!
I have
70's dynacomp
Green muff reissue
80's Guvnor
Mooer crunch
Mooer Elady flange
Mooer 90 phaser
Tc Echo v1
Ehx holy stain ( reverb/chorus/trem)
Into pro jr
This video has helped me balance my tone more
Thanks
Congratulations?
I really thought this was a great vid … you demonstrated much and informationally very exceptional. I’ll try these tips. Don’t sell yourself short on “tone is in the fingers” … you did what is not easy, you properly emulated how DG plays.
Thank you!
Finding the proper gear is a lifelong challenge, but you have to remember, you're only as good as the last time you played.
Very helpful info, thank you @mustyguitar - I’d definitely love a similar video on compression :)
I got a new compressor pedal and I’m gonna use that on the video!
Excellent as usual my man 👌
Great Video and great tones !!! Just, when you put a number behind the volume, sustain or gain, is it on a scale of 15? 20? Or should the numbers be considered like hours on a clock, and 14 is then if it was 14:00 on a clock ??
Thank you !
yes, it's 14:00, so 2 pm.
it's always o'clock. I should've made that clearer I guess.
What do you think about the JHS Muffuleta ? I've seen some videos and sounds very honest to me. Tks!
Very good pedal, I used to own one. I gave it away to one of my good friends. He didn't use it one bit and doesn't even give it back. I can do a review if I can get another one.
Your playing is great... you should treat yourself to the EHX Rams Head ReIssue for the icing on the cake. It's THE sound, straight out of the box.
I have it man, it's a beast for sure. Love the pedal.
Awesome video Musty, as a relative beginner this is so helpful. When I have my muff set to unity it is about 9.30, volume if I was to run it at 14.00 I'd be fielding calls from down the street lol. Do you just adjust your amp volume when bumping the muff up that high? I'm just confused as I was led to believe to run pedals at unity volume. I love this channel !!
Hey Musty, great channel on Gilmour/Pink Floyd. Congrats. I saw the other day an old post
of yours here asking advice about how to set up your Big Muff with your Laney Cub 12r
because you couldn't get these great tones you achieve now. How did you do it? did you
change the speaker or tubes on this amp? or is it just better settings on both sides? Cheers.
nothing is changed, I just experiment with tone knobs better. I hear my amp better, I can pair pedals better. It's all about playing more and trying new things. I used to record with the mic going a bit off just to have a bit darker sounds. It wasn't the best idea.
you know, it's funny, sometimes I record the best, THE BEST video. 2 months later it's crap to my ears like Stan Marsh from South Park. 5 months later I'm trying to get that exact sound again... This sh*t will never extinct and that is why we love guitar, pedals, amps.
@@mustyguitar Good to hear you didn't mod the amp, only your ears. I guess you increased the mids.
You must know Big Muffs work better with amps that have good mids, like Hiwatt and Marshall, and
not with Fender and Vox.
@@utubepassengerThe Cub12r is famous for being like a mini HiWatt/JCM800 hybrid:)
@@mattgilbert7347 Sure, and mids are key here.
Great stuff, man. Love the Laney Cub12r, i have one. I swapped out the stock HH speaker for a Vintage 30. Big improvement for me, anyway.
How are you enjoying it? Should I upgrade too?
@@mustyguitar I personally found it a major improvement, but I can't tell you what to do, my friend - I don't believe that my experience justifies such advice. Also, your tone is excellent so....
:)
Hi Mustafa, I really appreciate all the hard work that you put into this channel! Could you please help me attain the heavy raw fuzz tone on Time '72 Rainbow Theater concert, pre DSOTM release?
I believe he was using a fuzz face into a uni-vibe. This live recording has the best versions of these classics, I think.
a big muff cannot get that sound, I tried countless settings with at least 5-6 different big muffs. personally I don't like that gritty fuzz sounds, I don't like pompeii sounds as well. So I didn't experiment with a whole lot of vintage fuzz pedals, but I played:
- *sunface bc108* and it does great sounds regarding dark side and wembley 1974 sounds
- *jam pedals fuzz phrase* great for dark side, even though it's germanium, maybe needs a bit more gain from the amp if you're playing low output pickups. you can use overdrive as well for boosting.
- *boss fz-1w* PERFECT sounding fuzz for me, it's silicon, it's boss, powering is easy, sounds very good for pompeii and dark side studio tones. I briefly played it so I didn't try a whole lot of different sounds.
- *Dunlop JHF1* someone from the comments recommended to me, I'm so sorry I can't remember the name :I sounds wonderful and has great clean up sound. Perfect for time solo and pompeii sounds.
I tried a few different jim dunlop and a couple more "boutique" fuzzes but these 4 would be my choice. I'm gonna cover some 1972-1974 sounds in the near future when I get a few pedals in a few months, when I go to italy, so I can't give more defined answers right now.
edit: honestly, the tone on echoes funky part, the one I played with big muff sounds very, veery good for my taste. Only 1975 LA concert has better sound than a big muff I guess, but this is my opinion and it always changes :D
Many thanks, I'll anxiously await your future coverage of the '72-'74 sounds!@@mustyguitar
I have a Big Muff Pi (first fuzz pedal I bought back in 2016 when my band was playing a Smashing Pumpkins song because I wanted to get Billy Corgan's guitar tone (which I've always loved)) and I bought a Ram's Head last summer so I could have a smaller fuzz pedal for my board (plus I wanted to get Gilmour's tones as well), and have actually gotten kinda close with mine so I'll definitely be using some of these settings as well because they sound damn good. I just want to ask which song are you playing for the last example, I've never heard that song but it sounded absolutely awesome
Thank you for your kind words Andrew! last 2 songs are "take a breathe" and "on an island"
@@mustyguitar I do know On An Island but I'm not too familiar with Take A Breath so I'll definitely check that one out, great as always man
Not sure what you mean by v:14 but great video
volume: 14 o'clock.
Hi there! Unbelievably great tone there! Anyway, what do you reckon of the newer Laney Super Cub 12 compared to the older Laney Cub 12 that you have?
I'm not sure Simon, I haven't had a chance to try it. I'm guessing they are pretty similar but don't listen to me, listen to the amp.
i have a fond appreciation for the green russian muff now. it only took me a year and kit raes big muff page to realize that it is actually alot better than i thought. but i still like my patriarch more due its versatility. my only problem now is some circuits of rams head dont fit my setup all that well. i have a 73 rams head and i think its tone is kinda dull, even with a bright compressor. have you tried any more varients of rams head, or is the reissue just hard to beat.
Nice chops but having a hard time understanding the settings you suggest. The "MAX" is pretty self explanatory but if the knobs max out at 10 why v: 14 and tone: 11. Can you help me to understand. It would also help if the still image of the pedal showed the settings youre suggesting. Thanks
10 o’clock, 14 o’clock.
Hey bro. Thank you so much for all you do. Question: with the differemt volume settings, I find that I am not close to unity. So when I turn off the Muff the volume drops dramatically. I'm not sure what to do about that. Especially at a gig where sometimes I need it and sometimes I don't. When you are not at unity you constsntly have to readjust your pedals mid gig and that looks bad bent over your board all the time
For the time solo any reserve, and Dymacomp compressor setting ???
I enjoy your videos. What do you mean when you say that volume or tone is set at 10 or 14, etc. Is max at 20? I might suggest going to a 1-100% percentage scale.
It’s o’clock Doug
Gotcha. I suspected you might be using a 24 clock, but I’ve never used 24 hour time on an analog 12 hour clock face. Conversion is easy, though. Thank you.
What are your amp settings for Time solo?
I use the reissue ramshead.and just like the rest of us we don't sound just like Gilmour
As I see you were using chorus and rotary at the same time?
And no flanger here?
Im confused again which effects to use for Gilmour sound :))))
watch this, Mark Knopfler: th-cam.com/video/RWnkK7dxPPw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUMZ2lsbW91ciB0b25l
Hi really like your vids can you use just the classic big muff + a boss blues driver just the 2 peddles how would you set them up to get somewhere nr the gilmore tone great vid by the way great playing
Hey Patrick,
So, I tried classic white big muff too but it's really not that good, at least for my taste. I needed to work on it so much, with EQ or with another drive pedal. Even then, it didn't sound right for me.
You can try to kill that muffled, boomy, boxy fuzz sound with an EQ but that still wouldn't be quite right. I suggest you get a big muff like this one, it's budget friendly actually and Boss BD-2 can sound awesome with it, or on it's own for overdrive tones.
watch this video about bd-2: th-cam.com/video/oLRxnvQkCaA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Musty iam trying to build some sort of small rig i got the older looking big muff the bigger type one and a boss BD2 waza what sort of phaser would be good + a MXR phase 90 or scripts may be ? or what would you suggest to add to my build iam new to this i could never get what you have thats out of my price range i just want some idea of getting a similar floyd sounds thanks for any help keep up the great info and guitar workyou are doing@@mustyguitar
@@patricklennon8345 I think the best phaser is the script logo mxr custom shop. but before the phaser, I think you should consider changing your big muff, because that big silver box model is not ideal for Gilmour's big muff sounds. It's so fizzy. I'm not saying that won't sound good, but it wouldn't be ideal.
Thanks for your reply musty think i will get the russian green muff and the script mxr and try them out thanks patrick
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@@patricklennon8345phase95 is the best Mxr phaser. It gets the best of both 90 and 45 tones. Script Phase 45 setting is best for 70s Gilmour tones (for me).
Hey man. I just became a Patreon. I love your content and your explanations are so much better than the other DG tone channels. I wish I didn't have to sacrifice anything because your videos are so great. But I do. And I know you put so much work into your product. But your tone settings have always been a source of confusion. On the other "inferior" channels, they put actual pics of their pedals with the actual settings. This makes it so easy to screenshot and emulate. You, on the other hand place generic photos and describe your settings. What does V14 or Tone 13 even mean if there are no markings on the unit. In another video you described the RT 20 as "Wet 9 Dry 11". The RT 20 does not have these settings. Still with you brother. Just trying to give some constructive critique so we can better understand.
First of all, thank you for the constructive comment. I love reading these. "You" are the reason videos are better than last year. And gonna be better next year.
Second, everyone, and I mean everyone I interact talks like "gain around 12 o'clock" and it became this lingo. I just didn't think it would be that problematic, since, what else can that mean? on scale of what? Of course it's o'clock because it's like a standard. Or, or, maybe that's the way "I" think and yeah couple of other comments said the same thing, I should've add "o'clock" :)
Third and most important, the actual settings are ACTUALLY at the screen of the start of each solo :) I don't know what's confusing about that, don't think this the wrong way, I'm really curious and expecting feedback on this. I just write on a plain background, with pedals, and settings, and even on my Patreon, I literally go pedal by pedal. How can that be confusing and how can I make this better? You can get screenshot of this video on the screens and of course play with them a little, I mean, that's obvious. How can EVERY SETTING give you the same result on different setup and different volume and different guitar and different room? How is 01:22 confusing? How is 09:54 confusing? Mooer has level, depth and rate. L-D-R. green russian has volume, tone, gain, V-T-G.
Forth, I always experiment with settings, sometimes on some tone, I use RT20 with wet 9 dry 11 and sometimes I use wet 7 dry 12. There isn't a fixed setting for anything man. I share whatever I feel needs to be shared. If I liked rt20 on wet 9 dry 11 settings 5 months ago, and now favor 7 and 12, why would that be confusing or anything? They are both different sounds for different applications. On the turning away on this video has wet 9 and dry 11. Not now john has wet 7 and dry 12. AREN'T THEY DIFFERENT SOUNDING FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS? :) Try them both, see for yourself. I used to use big muff on tone knob very low, it sounded good at that time for my taste, now I prefer to have a bit more treble. Doesn't that very common thing? I share both settings and if you use those settings, you get the tone on the video, of course every rig might differ and you might need to experiment.
So I can offer you a refund if you're not satisfied with Patreon, instantly, like right now. I'm building a page there that's an archive, FOR ME FIRST. Most of the times when I prepare a video, I go back and watch it myself and say: "nice tone, sh*t, I'm gonna use the same thing now", because those sounds are a result of trying out several different pedals, hundreds of settings and countless hours. Or I say "how did I play this thing, let me check the tutorial or tab". If anyone wants to join the fun there, it's their call :) just like you, who are welcome!
Honestly, I don't think this is confusing but rather very, very, VERY, VEEERY easy to understand. I f*kin wish there was a video like this back when I started this channel. I would give my right ball for this. Just a guy says he's gonna try to get stuff, (personally) sounds awesome, shares it, gives me all the pedals and settings. What else can there be in a video? Well, maybe "o'clock" :)
I bought a black Russian Muff in my 20s because it was cheaper than the US made Muff and I was broke from drinking with my friends 😂 I was shocked to learn years later that, ironically, the Sovtek Muff is worth a lot more than its NYC counterpart of the same era. I know just about every "secret to better tone" trick for the Big Muff but I'm surprised somebody said it sounds thin. That's literally the opposite of what a Muff sounds like.
It sounds thin in the mix. How do you compare the black one with green one or the sovtek one? I’ve never used black one
@@mustyguitar I'm not sure how the it compares to the green Russian because I've only used the black and the current NYC Nano Muffs. It has an almost overwhelming amount of low end and it sounds cleaner, or less saturated. Almost like there's clean signal blended in parallel to the Muff's signal. But yes, the mid-scoop can cause the guitar to disappear behind others instruments. I never thought of using thin as an adjective to describe it. I use a Wampler overdrive with a 3 band EQ before the Muff in my signal chain. Volume at unity, gain at minimum, mids past noon, bass and treble to taste. Another overdrive, the Electro-Harmonix Hot Tubes, is my dirty boost/compression between the Muff and Modeller or audio interface. It's a very versatile and severely underrated overdrive and I think it's the lowest cost drive they sell currently. Truly a hidden gem.
What color strat is that
Thank you for your work, amazing stuff. What do you think of cheaper big muff alternatives? I got myself Big Fuzz by MoskyAudio recently, and I love the "Gilmour tones" I get. I can totally understand if you are pedal purist though and don't look at cheaper stuff 😁😁
well, the cheapest I tried is mooer's triangle clone I guess, which is just a bit more cheaper that green russian. It sounds like it's trying to do a good job but it doesn't :) I actually like mooer's stuff quite a lot.
moskyaudio big fuzz looks like it can do a lot of different style, like tonebender, which is cool, but I think demos out there doesn't sound very good. I personally am first time hearing the pedal from you.
I'm not pedal purist btw, most of the stuff on my channel, that I use very, VERY regularly are very cheap. BD-2, cheap mxr dynacomp mini, green russian, ram's head. these are not that expensive man, did you see some "boutique" pedals or whatever that means...
I'm a believer that you can get great tones with even the cheapest stuff. Probably amazon basics has good pedals on it too that we can work on :)
Great tones, I have this pedal, and a Helix. Line 6 have just added this model to the Helix, so I must do an A/B test
@@mustyguitar thanks for the answer. The reason I wanted to try moskyaudio big fuzz is because Josh Scott once tried their previous take on big muff called "Mini Muff" on a stream and said that it is identical to big muff and really recommended it.
So as far as I understand the first mode on that pedal is 𝝅 which is supposed to be big muff.
I have no way of comparing the two though. It's been couple of months since I got into effects pedals. Never cared about matching someone's tones before. Your channel is a great inspiration and such a gem for a Gilmour fan! Never met a bigger tone geek
@@odeo- listening a lot of pedals without seeing them is really a game changer. I love doing blind tests. I always surprise myself. I did a lot a few years later and always landed on the pedals I'm using now. I'm gonna do a full pedalboard video. in the near future.
How does the Green Russian stack up against the Patriarch?
I covered the best sorrow dvd solo and it's gonna be live one of these days. I tried a couple of different big muffs for my tone guide on Patreon about sorrow pulse dvd sound, I think I got as close to it as any man in a bedroom can. I show alternative pedals and sounds, SOOO, yeah, patriarch sounds wonderful and I recommend it.
I'm struggling to follow the numbering on the pedals here. What would 14 correlate to on the pedals?? usually I'd read people taking about 12 o'clock/ noon - being straight up the middle. 2 o'clock being to the right of noon.. what would 14 be?? :)
O’clock
The "tone is in the fingers" BS annoys me too. Dynamics are in the fingers, but tone is in the gear. Not even the people who say that really believe in it. Otherwise they wouldn't be buying and pursuing specific gear.
thank you! You're so generous!
Where is that rubber strip that always’ve been on your fingers?😮
100k sub and I reveal the secret behind it
edit: jk, that would be hella g*y
@@mustyguitar :))))
Hello, I have a Satisfaction Plus pedal. Do you think I can achieve a Glmourish tone wth it even if it does not have a sustain nob? Tx
I tried it on a guitar store very briefly, I think it's closer to fuzz face than a big muff. It's a tone bender type pedal? It would do better for earlier Gilmour tones I guess but don't expect a Comfortably Numb out of it. Just my opinion.
@@mustyguitar Thanks for your input!
My question about the big muff: i use the green russian through the cub 12r 1w input but... if i use the vol knob past 9oclock on the big muff it literally blows the doors to the room off! How should i be using the volume knob?
If you want to push the volume of the pedal the more we reduce the gain on your app to a minimum
I thought we covered this on Patreon Zak, you left me alone there :(
What are your amp settings?
@@mustyguitar i have vox ac10 and i use a compressor and after big muff green with delay mxr carbon copy … just before Regardless of the songs i have chorus corona and At the end of the chain a reverb pedal corona too… ahhh a pedal volume its very important for gilmour style
@@jeanfrancoisdubois9073 pedal volume is important for the harmonics of THAT pedal too. Some pedals are very sensitive to that.
@mustyguitar sorry 😅 i would really like to rejoin the patreon some day soon. I tend to run the gain around 4 and the volume about 5 and everything else changes depending on what im playing
I really can't deal with the sustain at its max...
Looks more like a small muff, I have a real Big Muff.
Fuzz is like salt on food and should be treateed to taste ...dont use to much though !
Volume at 14? tf? lol
O'clock
Hey, whenever I solo using a big muff (I don't have this issue with overdrives), some of the notes (the higher the worst) cut after I play them making it impossible to sustain a note (like a noise gate that's too sensitive), anyone else has that issue ?
can you specify a little? what amp? what settings on the big muff? when are you losing sustain? on what fret?
@@mustyguitar Sorry I'm only seeing your message now!!!!!!!!!!! Turns out my pedal was underpowered lol everything works fine now that I have a proper power supply
The beginning of this video sounds terrible.. absolute noise and cacophony...
I absolutely love it, which is what matters