Deep Space Nine rarely gets the credit it deserves for telling a layered, nuanced political story in the space opera format. It was character-driven, carefully plotted, and probably the best overall written Star Trek. It deserved a movie. It deserves a movie.
+Gary Dorgan I agree that it was lacking in the exploration which died but wasn't really noticed because it was so weak from the start. however in the grand scheme of things trek it is a pivotal point in which much of the politics etc of the trek verse got a really big fleshing out I'd wager without it videos like this wouldn't be worth the effort making as the back story would be so weak behind the main races
I enjoyed DS9 very much. It was a welcome change of pace from all the space ship based Treks. But it had time enough to tell its story to the very end, and did. Any revisiting now would be anticlimactic and would also damage sales of the post TV series novels. In fact, any new 24th century based shows would be set in a no win universe, where androids, holograms, and other devices are being declared sentient and demanding equality, if not superiority over biological beings. Add to that the fact that the Borg have assimilated much of the galaxy and will continue until all beings are either Borg or destroyed. It makes any stories set during that era futile at best. The timeline does need a reboot. But JJ Trek and Discovery are not the way to do it. But that's the way the owner's of the franchise have chosen, in addition to shutting down any fan efforts that show the right way, leading to Trek's death as both a cult phenomenon and a cultural icon. The ONLY path now is for creative fans to create a new shared universe devoid of Trek trappings, but guided by Trek philosophies.
Gary, that is a very narrow-minded view. Considering all the various races and corresponding issues, Star Trek can't ONLY be about "trekking and exploration". There are far too many races/factions out there with their own agenda for it to ONLY be about trekking and exploration. DS9 shown light and detail that many Trek fans craved for whether it was more detailed politics, larger combat scenes and combat info, intricacies of various intel agencies like the Obsidian Order to more details about the histories of Klingon houses or the Romulan-Federation relationship. Contrary to what you think, had DS9 never existed, it would've done Star Trek lore a DIS-service.
There is little hope of a shared fan timeline, the nearest equivalent would be the C0DA of The Elder Scrolls. The result of which is an official timeline which is directionless and homogenized and a fan-timeline which likes to declare itself as cannon but is both directionless and also utterly asinine taking - if you know TES, it's a game series set in a medieval fantasy, well C0DA currently has space-faring elves living on a mechanical planet. C0DA is a warning that no cobbled together fannon will ever be well structured enough to functionally replace the official cannon(s) and no matter how bad the official cannon appears to be, it's several steps better than an overall fannon. The best you could hope for is a singular fannon architect to gain some sort of cult following, but it is unlikely to ever gain any real traction.
I've always wish the Romulans were a bit more fleshed out. Also wish Trek would explore more of the non-humanoid races. Seeing the Tholians return in Enterprise was kinda nice.
The movies have nearly ruined the Romulans as an interesting and morally ambiguous antagonist. First, they introduced the stupid Reman retcon in Nemesis and then they blew up the entire planet in the reboot.
Kinda Agree with the nemesis part but not because of the story line, more because of how they did it.. The Stoy is actually very fitting, Romulan old guard military Commanders disagreeing with the new pro Federation sentiments in the senate fearing the romulan star empire to loose its place among the super powers trying to overthrow the goverment? Sounds as romulan as it gets And the destruction of Romolus is giving us a nice possibility to have a view in the Romulan culture, more then just seing a warbird commander but actually learning about how they think, rituals and stuff and if you continue with the very interesting but unfortunatly non Canaon books you get a super interesting story line, where the newly formed Romulan Republic supported and recognized by the federation and its allies is struggling in a fight for power agains the old self proclaimed empress Sela witch is stillt having major influence duo to most romuland not trusting an Republic (wich is kinda semi democratic) leading to the brink of a civil war (and I think it continues, just didnt read the next book, know back on the list) Just realized I wrote all of that to an 4 year old comment, lol
The reboot series needs more politics and meaningful messages. Next generation left you with something to consider about, the battles to enjoy, and the politics!
The illogic in that story: The vulcans were capable to build FTL-ships thousands of years ago. And in an amount to transport thousands of individuals. And 2000 years later they were still sitting on vulcan without beeing totaly technical superior to others.
TOFKAS01 if you lock up 99% of your creativity behind a metric ton of mental barriers and fanatic conservatism... progress is probably looked down upon
The war between Earth and Romulus was fought with impulse powered craft. Negotiations to end hostilities was conducted over sub space, way before Archers Enterprise. Watch Balance of Terror, where Kirk and the Bridge Crew are astounded and surprised at the first visual of a Romulan and the ensuing animosity from one member of said crew towards Spock
the fact that being asked about equality his immediate thought is "BUT Where WILL IT END? How MUCH DO WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU TO GET YOU TO SHUT UP AND DO WHAT WE TELL YOU?" instead of even considering what equality is is SO TELLING
I read one theory that Romulus was the actual original homeworld of the Vulcans/Romulans; 1) Romulus looks more hospitable compared to the desert-like world of Vulcan. 2) You have one side that is more pacifist while the other is more war-like. Which side is more likely to have been able to force the other off a planet?
Not in TOS, but in the novel "The Romulan Way". Surak's philosophy eventually prevailed on Vulcan, leaving a dissident group led by S'task to leave the planet on an exodus to the stars. S'task was essentially the first Romulan.
The destruction of Romus in the new Star Trek movie makes no sense. We have seen it many time that Romulan have some of the best scientist and engineers as they often surprise the Federation with devious technologies. It is hard to imagine the Romulan wouldn't notice their sun is going supernova and have no time to evacuate.
It wasn't the Romulan system's home star that supernovaed it was that of the nearby Hobus System.caused by A protomatter device used by Taris and Colonel Hakeev.
i like him, but i find he's really quite a dick to everyone outside of the bridge staff, even himself (or Thomas, rather). The only friendly interactions he has throughout the series is with the bridge staff (a.k.a main cast)
According to canon, the Remen was never established as a separate species from the Vulcan/Romulans. In fact, they gave several clues that Remen might be the result of Romulan genetic experimentations on their own people, as they display several Vulcan features, including green blood.
I hope they'll somehow have Romulans in the upcoming series. Always loved when they showed up in an episode. Tomalak was my favorite Ever thought of doing a video on the Soong family?
Don't listen to the haters, keep doing Trek and Tolkien alongside ASOIAF. I, personally, could do without the Star Wars videos as I never have found that universe very coherent outside of the original trilogy but I'm sure there are others who like it so I'm not complaining. :)
Anyone who loves Star Trek agrees that DS9 is the best Star Trek series to date. Mainly because of the Dominion War. I suggest you watch it if you have Netflix.
Honestly canon has always been very iffy with Star Trek. So it up to you as a fan if you want to see it as canon or not I guess. I like STO so I see it as canon. Which also mean that the JJ trek stuff is a separate time line (Called the Kelvin timeline in STO)
most fans of the shows and movies don't like the games because they think its not canon and only based off of the views the fans made. star trek online has a canon history and has mentioned janeway, picard, and kirk on many occasions. it has also mentioned the new timeline but only making it sound like rumors or sperate events, which in my opinion is a good thing. ive liked the shows and the movies but im not biased on shit on star trek, since i am also a player of sto myself and a avid gamer and anime casual. i don't understand why the STO part, since it extends into the 25th century, isn't considered to be canon by most trek fans. maybe it needs to have a show to be considered canon?
Yu Yu Neko Daisuke you are a disgrace to anime fans/otakus everywhere. get off the internet before someone dox's you and sends someone to beat your ass.....
I enjoyed the trilogy by Sherman and Shwartz "Vulcan's Soul" wherein the Remans were actually genetically modified Vulcans left there to be the slave labor.
According to Q, the 100 war between the Vulcans and Romulans was started by Q. As stated to captain Janeway by Q in the Startrek Voyager episode deathwish
Whomever owns the rights to the star trek franchise and makes tv series and movies has canonical authority! it could be God awful but its canon nonetheless.
No mention of the Mintakans (TNG "Who Watches the Watchers")? I like to think they descended from some lost landing party of the Romulans or the Debrune, which would explain their similar forehead ridges.
except the talsiar lead by tasha yar bitch daughter Sela is a major pain in the ass tash was captured on the Enterprise C forced into harem had a daughter tasha attempted rebel was" killed" but a investigation/ rescue mission late in the game proves the father lied tasha died on a prison planet with rest of survivors at last encounter she request you come to the prison cell she is in you give her the hologram of tasha she asks to be told about her mother although i wish i could put her on a shuttle craft and launch a high yield quantum torpedo spread at it
The Romulans abandoned their plan to have shinzon infiltrate the Federation as Picard when they realized that he looks NOTHING like Picard.... despite him being a clone of Picard.
D.M.S. I don't know that there was enough information onscreen. In one episode, Weyoun says The Dominion has been around for 2,000 years; in another, he says 10,000. The female changeling says that they're timeless, so, it can't be established when they came into existence. In "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River", Weyoun tells the story of the Vorta, but, I don't think he says when (correct me if I'm wrong).
Since it would appear that Romulus was more hospitable than Vulcan, it would make sense for the Romulans to have lost some of the physical strength of their Vulcan cousins. It would make sense that the Romulans would still be stronger than humans, but generations on Romulus would no longer have had to survive on such a harsh planet. It's been mentioned that Romulans have evolved enough that they were no longer physiologically identical to Vulcans. I'd just like to see their physical strength strength addressed since they've emphasized that Vulcans are 3 times stronger and faster than humans, and Klingons are stronger and have more endurance than humans. It would be interesting to know how the Romulans stack up.
Some minor errors (not necessarily with the history just some nitpick things, ex. USS Enterprise NX-01, it's just Enterprise NX-01) but still worth watching, great refresher to my knowledge of STAR TREK.
The apparent distinction between Vulcans and Romulans may be just a natural variation among individuals in both populations. Pronounced brows may just be more prevalent among Romulans than Vulcans. The proof? Before The Next Generation, the Romulans we saw on screen had no brow ridges (the lower ranked centurions wore helmets that obscured their foreheads--maybe they had ridges!). According to the producers, they wanted a different look for Romulans when TNG started. However, even after TNG’s fourth season, there’s the example of Romulan ambassador Nanclus from the movie “The Undiscovered Country” who very clearly had no ridges. Also, Spock was able to travel about in public on Romulus without prosthetics and without attracting any apparent attention (other than from Romulan intelligence). So then are there any Vulcans with brow ridges? In TNG “Gambit”, there was the Vulcan revolutionary T’Paal who was acting undercover as a Romulan but there’s nothing in the episode to indicate that her brow ridges weren’t natural. Also, if you look back at the original series episode “Amok Time”, Spock’s wedding party had helmets that, like the Romulan centurions of the same era, covered their foreheads (maybe some were Vulcans with brow ridges!)
mariolis1000 I think the Romulan war could’ve been their answer to Star Wars the clone wars series and I think this series should’ve aired on nickelodeon should’ve been made in 2006 and aired from 2006 to 2009 with three seasons (Who should make and produce the series i vote Steve marmel The former developer of Danny phantom i’m saying it should been made by the same guys that did Danny phantom) and it would be a micro series (similar to the clone wars 2003 microseries) like and comment if you agree
im not really sure, they've never really said anything about it. seeing as how there is no show that picks up after TNG, i would think all STO content should count. Adds more to the Star Trek story
Interesting and informative. I am curious about the art you employed. The drawing of Vulcan with ice caps and oceans (seas) was great. Especially, having the southern ice cap appears to be feeding that Southern sea. It's similar to the subsurface melt sea under the Southern pole of Saturn's moon Enceladus. Do you by any chance have a place on the web where I could see a larger version of the drawing? I have always wondered what the ecology of Vulcan would be like. I remember a novel written back in the 80's or 90's. I can not recall the author, or the title, but it described early Vulcan's prior to a star flair that did terrible damage in a burn over. It may have been "STRANGERS FROM THE SKY", and I think it was written by the same author. I hope you do more such video's. Great work, and best of luck in your future endeavours. Please, contact me by email if you do.
STO takes place after the last known events of the Canon Universe and continues the story in its own way but because it is only a game it is not considered alpha canon, so new and future star trek movies and tv shows that want to further the story will not take it into consideration. STO is part of Beta canon which involves novels, games, and comics.
All I wanna know is why they’re Space Rome. They have Rome’s government, titles, and much of its culture. Now I know we saw a literal 20th century Rome in TOS, but I still want an actual explanation for space Romulus and Remus.
On the way to what became Romulus they observed ancient earth & thought "these Roman guys are cool! One day we'll become fine allies!" But when they finally saw what Earth became they were disgusted because we became space commie/hippies!
Sisko having a Romulan killed off and frame it on his enemy so that the Romulans join forces? A "good guy" doing something like that is pretty dark for Star Trek... I need to watch DS9.
DS9 is my fav star trek series because it explores the darker sides of humanity which can never fully disappear. The ep you are referring to is called, In the Pale Moonlight, and it is, imo, the best episode of Star Trek ever. :)
CivilizationEx by comparison TNG - when Gene Roddenbery was still directly involved - always doubled down to make the Federation look good. the best example is the episode "Conspiracy". TNG writers simply wanted the admirals to be corrupt and planning a coup'd'etat but Roddenbery refused to let them do it; arguing that the Federation is "above that"
I am not sure what to think of this... It DOES explain a lot (I was somewhat confused), but this sort of sounds like a "future that did not happen", though I am sure that humans will meet someone with Romulan characteristics (if we haven't already). And maybe Vulcans, too, but one can only hope not at the same time... (People seem to be one thing or the other [we are logical, but also emotional], but not both at the same time.)
Ok, maybe with the new Picard series to come, I have to accept the Hobos Nova as canon. But all I am reading is "...after the desolve of the romulan empire...". Sure there would have been a time of internal turmoil and isolation where the romulans are trying to rebuild and find a new homeworld. Maybe away from their former borders, deeper into the beta-Quadrant. But after that, they will be back again in at least old strenght. Its called STAR-Empire for a reason, so they will have plenty of worlds to choose off. But no - the will become a thrid class race... klingon servants and starfleet officers. And this makes me sad. I can't believe the writers decided that the Romulans just ignored the fact that the Hobos Star was destableising and didn't do nothing. This is just stupid nobody would do this! If earth would have been destroyed it would be "We will defend our glorious federation and stand up to our ideals. Anyway it was just a planet, we still live and we will prevail". With any other race: "Our Homeplanet was destroyed, all is lost we will die." Thank you, idiotic writing! I will miss the Star-Empire. The only interesting villans left.
Try reading, My Enemy, My Ally and The Romulan Way by Diane Duane. The two novels tell a non-canon story about the Rihannsu/Romulans that IMHO is better.
I'm wondering how the Romulan-Earth war ended up in Earth's favor. Shouldn't the Romulan Star Empire tech be far more advanced than Earth tech? Perhaps I missed something somewhere in canon which exlains this.
Deep Space Nine rarely gets the credit it deserves for telling a layered, nuanced political story in the space opera format. It was character-driven, carefully plotted, and probably the best overall written Star Trek. It deserved a movie. It deserves a movie.
+Gary Dorgan I agree that it was lacking in the exploration which died but wasn't really noticed because it was so weak from the start. however in the grand scheme of things trek it is a pivotal point in which much of the politics etc of the trek verse got a really big fleshing out I'd wager without it videos like this wouldn't be worth the effort making as the back story would be so weak behind the main races
technically way of the warrior was a tv movie, but I get what you mean, still though it's done and any more would diminish it
I enjoyed DS9 very much. It was a welcome change of pace from all the space ship based Treks. But it had time enough to tell its story to the very end, and did. Any revisiting now would be anticlimactic and would also damage sales of the post TV series novels.
In fact, any new 24th century based shows would be set in a no win universe, where androids, holograms, and other devices are being declared sentient and demanding equality, if not superiority over biological beings. Add to that the fact that the Borg have assimilated much of the galaxy and will continue until all beings are either Borg or destroyed. It makes any stories set during that era futile at best.
The timeline does need a reboot. But JJ Trek and Discovery are not the way to do it. But that's the way the owner's of the franchise have chosen, in addition to shutting down any fan efforts that show the right way, leading to Trek's death as both a cult phenomenon and a cultural icon.
The ONLY path now is for creative fans to create a new shared universe devoid of Trek trappings, but guided by Trek philosophies.
Gary, that is a very narrow-minded view. Considering all the various races and corresponding issues, Star Trek can't ONLY be about "trekking and exploration". There are far too many races/factions out there with their own agenda for it to ONLY be about trekking and exploration. DS9 shown light and detail that many Trek fans craved for whether it was more detailed politics, larger combat scenes and combat info, intricacies of various intel agencies like the Obsidian Order to more details about the histories of Klingon houses or the Romulan-Federation relationship. Contrary to what you think, had DS9 never existed, it would've done Star Trek lore a DIS-service.
There is little hope of a shared fan timeline, the nearest equivalent would be the C0DA of The Elder Scrolls. The result of which is an official timeline which is directionless and homogenized and a fan-timeline which likes to declare itself as cannon but is both directionless and also utterly asinine taking - if you know TES, it's a game series set in a medieval fantasy, well C0DA currently has space-faring elves living on a mechanical planet.
C0DA is a warning that no cobbled together fannon will ever be well structured enough to functionally replace the official cannon(s) and no matter how bad the official cannon appears to be, it's several steps better than an overall fannon.
The best you could hope for is a singular fannon architect to gain some sort of cult following, but it is unlikely to ever gain any real traction.
I feel like I'm in a history lecture class in the Federation Academy.
And Geordi is the teacher.
Star fleet academy
@@trekmasterflex7476 right. I just recently started getting into ST.
Gay
We are 🥺
"Something bad was gonna happen but then the Enterprise...." lol.
And usually the Enterprise is barely spaceworthy when its forced into service!
I've always wish the Romulans were a bit more fleshed out. Also wish Trek would explore more of the non-humanoid races. Seeing the Tholians return in Enterprise was kinda nice.
The Gorn too as well not much about them after TOS.
Just now realized the Romulans were based on the Romans. Derp.
Does that mean the Vulcans are based on the ancient Greeks?
I knew that when I binged TOS.
duh lol
Romulus and Remus didn’t give it away?
This and the ''divide et impera'' espionage, and the slavery ofc
0:55 "Romulus" and "Remus" That allways gets me...
I wonder what Romulan reaction if they reading history of earth and find out Roman Empire and Romulus and Remus story of romans
Romulans are my favorite Star Trek race
Romulans were so cool and Sela was a great character, sucks Romulus got destroyed in the new movies.
The movies have nearly ruined the Romulans as an interesting and morally ambiguous antagonist. First, they introduced the stupid Reman retcon in Nemesis and then they blew up the entire planet in the reboot.
Could not agree more, Nemesis and J.J Abrams really messed with the Romulans.
Kinda Agree with the nemesis part but not because of the story line, more because of how they did it..
The Stoy is actually very fitting, Romulan old guard military Commanders disagreeing with the new pro Federation sentiments in the senate fearing the romulan star empire to loose its place among the super powers trying to overthrow the goverment?
Sounds as romulan as it gets
And the destruction of Romolus is giving us a nice possibility to have a view in the Romulan culture, more then just seing a warbird commander but actually learning about how they think, rituals and stuff and if you continue with the very interesting but unfortunatly non Canaon books you get a super interesting story line, where the newly formed Romulan Republic supported and recognized by the federation and its allies is struggling in a fight for power agains the old self proclaimed empress Sela witch is stillt having major influence duo to most romuland not trusting an Republic (wich is kinda semi democratic) leading to the brink of a civil war (and I think it continues, just didnt read the next book, know back on the list)
Just realized I wrote all of that to an 4 year old comment, lol
The reboot series needs more politics and meaningful messages. Next generation left you with something to consider about, the battles to enjoy, and the politics!
My sweet summer child
@@aloneinthedark99 I wish I could return to that blissful ignorance and hope
There are few comments that have aged as poorly as this one
I never saw this video coming! Awesome work!
OMG so cool. I love how you incorporated everything!!
Awesome series, looking forward to videos about the Dominion.
Gods! you just keep getting better and better, I'm gonna try and help you get through your long to do list.
The illogic in that story: The vulcans were capable to build FTL-ships thousands of years ago. And in an amount to transport thousands of individuals. And 2000 years later they were still sitting on vulcan without beeing totaly technical superior to others.
TOFKAS01 if you lock up 99% of your creativity behind a metric ton of mental barriers and fanatic conservatism...
progress is probably looked down upon
@@boooster101 cringe
The war between Earth and Romulus was fought with impulse powered craft. Negotiations to end hostilities was conducted over sub space, way before Archers Enterprise. Watch Balance of Terror, where Kirk and the Bridge Crew are astounded and surprised at the first visual of a Romulan and the ensuing animosity from one member of said crew towards Spock
I love the romulands so much, these dark elves are very interesting
the fact that being asked about equality his immediate thought is "BUT Where WILL IT END? How MUCH DO WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU TO GET YOU TO SHUT UP AND DO WHAT WE TELL YOU?" instead of even considering what equality is is SO TELLING
Also the NX-01 was not the USS Enterprise, merely The Enterprise!
TriAngulum Studios Audio Comics Not even "the" _Enterprise_ . Just _Enterprise_ .
Fancy seeing you here 😎
These are just so fantastic.
It's crazy to think 1 race was able to become so many great forces in the alpha and beta quadrant.
This is an amazing vid! Keep up the good work!
I read one theory that Romulus was the actual original homeworld of the Vulcans/Romulans; 1) Romulus looks more hospitable compared to the desert-like world of Vulcan. 2) You have one side that is more pacifist while the other is more war-like. Which side is more likely to have been able to force the other off a planet?
It was stated in tos that they fled Vulcan because they didn't want to. Follow the teachings of Surak,
Not in TOS, but in the novel "The Romulan Way". Surak's philosophy eventually prevailed on Vulcan, leaving a dissident group led by S'task to leave the planet on an exodus to the stars. S'task was essentially the first Romulan.
Thought Vulcan was like that because it was all nuked out and turned into a wasteland.
Vulcan is the original homeworld of the Romulans
"A brief history of the Roman Empire from their days as exiles to their rise as a superpower."
FTFY
Would make a video about the Cardassians??
Nice summary. Clears things up somewhat
The destruction of Romus in the new Star Trek movie makes no sense. We have seen it many time that Romulan have some of the best scientist and engineers as they often surprise the Federation with devious technologies. It is hard to imagine the Romulan wouldn't notice their sun is going supernova and have no time to evacuate.
I see your point
Nickolas Schieber everyone sees it except JJ
Peichen01 Exactly. That was stupid. They should have enough ships and time to evacuate before leaving to chance.
It wasn't the Romulan system's home star that supernovaed it was that of the nearby Hobus System.caused by A protomatter device used by Taris and Colonel Hakeev.
Mike Gallant I don't know if Star Trek Online is canon or not.
Very interesting vid about the Romulan Empire! ;)
The Kelvin Timeline exists in an alternate universe anyway, the prime universe is unaffected by the Kelvin timeline.
Kelvinverse.
I wish they would do an episode or write a story on the Debrune in Trek. Flipping great video.
Looks like they did, at least in novels. memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Debrune
Love your vids! Keep em up!
The Romulans just always pulling crazy power moves.
Commander Riker will always be my favorite character from Star Trek
i like him, but i find he's really quite a dick to everyone outside of the bridge staff, even himself (or Thomas, rather).
The only friendly interactions he has throughout the series is with the bridge staff (a.k.a main cast)
Mine is Q, Data, Picard, Spock
According to canon, the Remen was never established as a separate species from the Vulcan/Romulans. In fact, they gave several clues that Remen might be the result of Romulan genetic experimentations on their own people, as they display several Vulcan features, including green blood.
I hope they'll somehow have Romulans in the upcoming series. Always loved when they showed up in an episode. Tomalak was my favorite
Ever thought of doing a video on the Soong family?
More Star Trek pls
Omg yes please
Yeah. I love game of thrones, but your Star Trek playlist is very lacking
I liked many of the Romulan outfits, especially that large grey top.
Don't listen to the haters, keep doing Trek and Tolkien alongside ASOIAF. I, personally, could do without the Star Wars videos as I never have found that universe very coherent outside of the original trilogy but I'm sure there are others who like it so I'm not complaining. :)
Star Wars is my favorite source of lore, well it was. Before they cut the EU.
People are complaining about Trek Lore!? Come on, how many youtube pages do Trek Lore? That is an awful thing to complain about in my opinion.
Is the Dominion war covered in Deep Space 9?
Yes it makes up the last 3 or 4 seasons.
+CivilizationEx awesome, thanks
Anyone who loves Star Trek agrees that DS9 is the best Star Trek series to date. Mainly because of the Dominion War. I suggest you watch it if you have Netflix.
you need to watch the dominion stuff on ds9. it's great. the character arcs of Sisco and Gul Dukat are fantastic.
Voyager has always been my favourite.. Such a good series
Why do I find Star Trek mildly boring but these videos as the coolest thing ever 😅
Any chance of you doing historical notes from Star Trek Online?
I'm not sure if STO is cannon
Not likely no :(
Honestly canon has always been very iffy with Star Trek. So it up to you as a fan if you want to see it as canon or not I guess. I like STO so I see it as canon. Which also mean that the JJ trek stuff is a separate time line (Called the Kelvin timeline in STO)
most fans of the shows and movies don't like the games because they think its not canon and only based off of the views the fans made. star trek online has a canon history and has mentioned janeway, picard, and kirk on many occasions. it has also mentioned the new timeline but only making it sound like rumors or sperate events, which in my opinion is a good thing. ive liked the shows and the movies but im not biased on shit on star trek, since i am also a player of sto myself and a avid gamer and anime casual. i don't understand why the STO part, since it extends into the 25th century, isn't considered to be canon by most trek fans. maybe it needs to have a show to be considered canon?
Yu Yu Neko Daisuke you are a disgrace to anime fans/otakus everywhere. get off the internet before someone dox's you and sends someone to beat your ass.....
I enjoyed the trilogy by Sherman and Shwartz "Vulcan's Soul" wherein the Remans were actually genetically modified Vulcans left there to be the slave labor.
1:31 Ah yes, “highly encouraged”. I suppose that’s one way of putting it.
According to Q, the 100 war between the Vulcans and Romulans was started by Q.
As stated to captain Janeway by Q in the Startrek Voyager episode deathwish
I do not consider JJ Abrams star trek as cannon
Whomever owns the rights to the star trek franchise and makes tv series and movies has canonical authority! it could be God awful but its canon nonetheless.
katakisLives With protest I see your point
Shoot the canon at it.
JJ Abrams ruined Star Trek.
Aquarius1011 how?
No mention of the Mintakans (TNG "Who Watches the Watchers")? I like to think they descended from some lost landing party of the Romulans or the Debrune, which would explain their similar forehead ridges.
Pls do a video about the:
* Dominion - Star Trek
* Cardassian Union/Empire - Star Trek
* First Order - Star Wars
Great video
i love the romulans
question how many romulans does it take to change a light bulb
@@warriorgaming1604 wow, a whole year and nobody took you up on that joke...
@@darthjimmi1481 every star trek fan knows that joke
Great video!
This is all very fascinating.
And in STO, the Romulans are now a fractured shell of their former selves.
except the talsiar lead by tasha yar bitch daughter Sela is a major pain in the ass tash was captured on the Enterprise C forced into harem had a daughter tasha attempted rebel was" killed" but a investigation/ rescue mission late in the game proves the father lied tasha died on a prison planet with rest of survivors at last encounter she request you come to the prison cell she is in you give her the hologram of tasha she asks to be told about her mother although i wish i could put her on a shuttle craft and launch a high yield quantum torpedo spread at it
Brilliant stuff!! Would you be able to do one about the Soong-type androids?
Maybe one day
The Romulans abandoned their plan to have shinzon infiltrate the Federation as Picard when they realized that he looks NOTHING like Picard.... despite him being a clone of Picard.
Will there be a history of the Dominion episode?
D.M.S. I don't know that there was enough information onscreen. In one episode, Weyoun says The Dominion has been around for 2,000 years; in another, he says 10,000. The female changeling says that they're timeless, so, it can't be established when they came into existence. In "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River", Weyoun tells the story of the Vorta, but, I don't think he says when (correct me if I'm wrong).
Romulans where based upon the Roman Empire > hence the the senate and proconsul praetors
GuyOfTheUniverse and reem is the second planet or his brother
No shit Sherlock, Remus & Romulus the mythical founders of Rome, shit writing honestly.
And they share a star system with the Remans saying something
and the romans also thought their people were superior to all others.
Great videos! With the new series Star Trek Discovery I hope to see more videos dedicated to Star Trek :)
Could you do a video about the Ferengi?
Wow your models look great
DO MORE STAR TREK VIDEOS PLEASEEEEE!!!
Since it would appear that Romulus was more hospitable than Vulcan, it would make sense for the Romulans to have lost some of the physical strength of their Vulcan cousins. It would make sense that the Romulans would still be stronger than humans, but generations on Romulus would no longer have had to survive on such a harsh planet. It's been mentioned that Romulans have evolved enough that they were no longer physiologically identical to Vulcans. I'd just like to see their physical strength strength addressed since they've emphasized that Vulcans are 3 times stronger and faster than humans, and Klingons are stronger and have more endurance than humans. It would be interesting to know how the Romulans stack up.
very nice m8 u deserve a sub
Thank you!
I'm surprised that there is no Federation video
It would be way too long since they're the stars of the show.
Needs to be updated to include new cannon from Picard...
The Romulan Empire is basically the Roman Empire
I don't know what could have given you that insane idea...
do they even attempt to explain this in the shows?
+Ecaf Tnuc Hell, Kirk and company found a planet that actually was a modern day Roman Empire
well done.
Romulus never fell, and it never can.
love the star trek lore, boo to the new trek being part of this. great work!
Where does commander Tabok of the Romulans fit in all this? There was no mention of him. He’s the most badass Romulan there is!
Ah, Space Romans
amazing!!!
I love it!
:)
Some minor errors (not necessarily with the history just some nitpick things, ex. USS Enterprise NX-01, it's just Enterprise NX-01) but still worth watching, great refresher to my knowledge of STAR TREK.
'Ree-man' not 'REmun'
Thank you
as the Rock would say IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS or in this case SPECIES
I reject JJ Abrams time line
@@BoatLoadofType97s exactly, it's even called the Kelvin timeline. It's not like it affected the main show timeline.
So the remens are not all related in some way to romulans or vulcans thought kinda look like them in a way?
Where did the romulan head rigges from TNG come from? Any explanation for that in universe?
The apparent distinction between Vulcans and Romulans may be just a natural variation among individuals in both populations. Pronounced brows may just be more prevalent among Romulans than Vulcans. The proof? Before The Next Generation, the Romulans we saw on screen had no brow ridges (the lower ranked centurions wore helmets that obscured their foreheads--maybe they had ridges!). According to the producers, they wanted a different look for Romulans when TNG started. However, even after TNG’s fourth season, there’s the example of Romulan ambassador Nanclus from the movie “The Undiscovered Country” who very clearly had no ridges. Also, Spock was able to travel about in public on Romulus without prosthetics and without attracting any apparent attention (other than from Romulan intelligence).
So then are there any Vulcans with brow ridges? In TNG “Gambit”, there was the Vulcan revolutionary T’Paal who was acting undercover as a Romulan but there’s nothing in the episode to indicate that her brow ridges weren’t natural. Also, if you look back at the original series episode “Amok Time”, Spock’s wedding party had helmets that, like the Romulan centurions of the same era, covered their foreheads (maybe some were Vulcans with brow ridges!)
Uh, this video stops at 5:57, wonder why...
no it does not
mikapoful you’ll have to forgive him. He seems like one of those guys who doesn’t like the Kelvin Alternate Timeline
Such a shame when Enterprise got cancelled ...
we never saw the Earth-Romulan war , which was being hyped up in the few romulan scenes
mariolis1000 I think the Romulan war could’ve been their answer to Star Wars the clone wars series and I think this series should’ve aired on nickelodeon should’ve been made in 2006 and aired from 2006 to 2009 with three seasons (Who should make and produce the series i vote Steve marmel The former developer of Danny phantom i’m saying it should been made by the same guys that did Danny phantom) and it would be a micro series (similar to the clone wars 2003 microseries) like and comment if you agree
Any up date from Picard?
There is more.............Romulan Republic, Iconanians, Empress Sela
Isn't Romulan Republic and the Iconanians versus Romulan republic just part of STO ?
im not really sure, they've never really said anything about it. seeing as how there is no show that picks up after TNG, i would think all STO content should count.
Adds more to the Star Trek story
From what i got from the wiki. Star trek online is a part of expanded universe. But I hope too that it is part of the cannon.
T0R10US CZ its like star wars all over again
Yes. It is
Interesting and informative. I am curious about the art you employed. The drawing of Vulcan with ice caps and oceans (seas) was great. Especially, having the southern ice cap appears to be feeding that Southern sea. It's similar to the subsurface melt sea under the Southern pole of Saturn's moon Enceladus. Do you by any chance have a place on the web where I could see a larger version of the drawing? I have always wondered what the ecology of Vulcan would be like. I remember a novel written back in the 80's or 90's. I can not recall the author, or the title, but it described early Vulcan's prior to a star flair that did terrible damage in a burn over. It may have been "STRANGERS FROM THE SKY",
and I think it was written by the same author. I hope you do more such video's. Great work, and best of luck in your future endeavours. Please, contact me by email if you do.
Love it good job are who now going to do the Cardassasions
will you ever do videos on starcraft ,mass effect, witcher or elder scrolls
Maybe one day, but probably not for awhile
will you please do one on vulcans alone?
Definitely will at some point. :)
So how does the lore of Star Trek online fit into this with the Romulan republic etc
STO takes place after the last known events of the Canon Universe and continues the story in its own way but because it is only a game it is not considered alpha canon, so new and future star trek movies and tv shows that want to further the story will not take it into consideration. STO is part of Beta canon which involves novels, games, and comics.
That's a shame, I really like the Romulan republic
very good :D
Do a video on vulcans please and mention Spock.
Romulan: the SPQR in SPACE
All I wanna know is why they’re Space Rome. They have Rome’s government, titles, and much of its culture. Now I know we saw a literal 20th century Rome in TOS, but I still want an actual explanation for space Romulus and Remus.
On the way to what became Romulus they observed ancient earth & thought "these Roman guys are cool! One day we'll become fine allies!" But when they finally saw what Earth became they were disgusted because we became space commie/hippies!
Some of those planets are also names of the Romulan Warbirds in their fleet too.
Sisko having a Romulan killed off and frame it on his enemy so that the Romulans join forces? A "good guy" doing something like that is pretty dark for Star Trek... I need to watch DS9.
DS9 is my fav star trek series because it explores the darker sides of humanity which can never fully disappear. The ep you are referring to is called, In the Pale Moonlight, and it is, imo, the best episode of Star Trek ever. :)
CivilizationEx by comparison TNG - when Gene Roddenbery was still directly involved - always doubled down to make the Federation look good.
the best example is the episode "Conspiracy".
TNG writers simply wanted the admirals to be corrupt and planning a coup'd'etat but Roddenbery refused to let them do it; arguing that the Federation is "above that"
when you and your allies are losing a war anything to draw neutral planet goes
I am not sure what to think of this... It DOES explain a lot (I was somewhat confused), but this sort of sounds like a "future that did not happen", though I am sure that humans will meet someone with Romulan characteristics (if we haven't already). And maybe Vulcans, too, but one can only hope not at the same time... (People seem to be one thing or the other [we are logical, but also emotional], but not both at the same time.)
I find it ironic that JJ Abram would use the Romulans to kill Gene Roddenberry's universe....
Ok, maybe with the new Picard series to come, I have to accept the Hobos Nova as canon. But all I am reading is "...after the desolve of the romulan empire...". Sure there would have been a time of internal turmoil and isolation where the romulans are trying to rebuild and find a new homeworld. Maybe away from their former borders, deeper into the beta-Quadrant. But after that, they will be back again in at least old strenght. Its called STAR-Empire for a reason, so they will have plenty of worlds to choose off. But no - the will become a thrid class race... klingon servants and starfleet officers. And this makes me sad.
I can't believe the writers decided that the Romulans just ignored the fact that the Hobos Star was destableising and didn't do nothing. This is just stupid nobody would do this! If earth would have been destroyed it would be "We will defend our glorious federation and stand up to our ideals. Anyway it was just a planet, we still live and we will prevail". With any other race: "Our Homeplanet was destroyed, all is lost we will die."
Thank you, idiotic writing!
I will miss the Star-Empire. The only interesting villans left.
The debrune I don’t think I heard of them where did you heard about the debrune
Anyone else notice with these Star Trek Empires whenever the Emperor/Empress dies, the Empire just Stagnates/Declines under an oligarchy?
This has probably been suggested, but can you make videos on the Cardassians in the future?
Definitely will at some point, but I am debating doing the Ferengi first, I really love them.
Can you make about the Romulan Republic
Ah, Cannon and the eternal question of what is and what makes cannon cannon. What would we do with out it's ability to screw with our heads?
Thanks for including JJ's stuff.
Try reading, My Enemy, My Ally and The Romulan Way by Diane Duane. The two novels tell a non-canon story about the Rihannsu/Romulans that IMHO is better.
I'm wondering how the Romulan-Earth war ended up in Earth's favor. Shouldn't the Romulan Star Empire tech be far more advanced than Earth tech? Perhaps I missed something somewhere in canon which exlains this.
Earth had powerful allies like the Vulcans.