Thank you so much! A very informative video. I have a 2011 Chevrolet Suburban that the family uses for sing-a-long joy rides, camping and driving in flooding streets. It was suggested that I set up the following rig for more effective battery usage. I would really appreciate you guys opinion about this... diode battery isolator: Primary battery- to car starter amp Secondary battery- to all audio, custom subwoofer, all dvd-blueray screens (kids watching movies & online videos) Alternate battery- inverter, battery charging docks, fridge & heaters when camping What would it visually look like to DIY set up something like this?
Thanks for your comment! Unfortunately we do not know what is available interstate to be able to provide you with accurate information regarding what you are trying to achieve.
In practice it is a non-issue. A plain or smart isolator won't overcharge a lead-acid leisure batt since the alternator voltage is so low (possible exception of Gel batts that have lower Vabs requirements). A DC-DC won't overcharge because of the programmed stages will allow it to drop to Float.
Do not use with lithium iron sulfate batteries...could destroy your alternator...instead use a DC- DC charge controller between main battery & aux..battery..Infact should be used with lead acid as well..!!!
What I’m hearing from this is that if I have an older style alternator (2003 Jeep TJ), An isolator is adequate. Furthermore, a DC-DC charger would more or less be a waste of money. Correct?
Hi Jay mind ya business. Thanks for your comment. An Isolator will only charge an auxiliary battery to 80% as it does not condition the battery to 100% like a DCDC charger would. With modern batteries we recommend a Dc-Dc charger for correct charging applications.
@@accelerateoffgridtouring So I have a very small 56Ah AGM auxiliary battery bank which is made up of (x2) 28Ah batteries in parallel for the refrigerator in my Jeep. Id love to run a DCDC charger between my starter battery and my battery bank but the smallest DCDC I’ve found is 20A which puts out too much power for my 56Ah setup. Are there any DCDC options for a bank as small as mine?
I have a 2007 Jeep Commander. I have a 200ah AGM battery that I want to use as the aux battery. Do I need the isolator or the dc to dc? What gauge wire should I use to run to it? When camping and with the car off, can I hook up my solar panel to the aux battery without having to do anything to the isolator?
An isolator is typically a continuouis-duty solenoid. A "smart" isolator is the same but with voltage-sensing circuits that try to run the isolator only when the starter battery is being actively charged. The cut-in is typically something like 13.4v.
In this case can I use a Solar Panel always connected to the Auxiliary Battery to charge the auxiliary battery when the car is moving (solar panel with solar regulator + alternator charging) or parking (engine off - only solar charging)?
Yes, multiple charging sources can be applied to the same battery bank. Note that solar charging voltage (or resting Li voltage) can confuse some "smart" isolators. They can get tricked into keeping the relay closed when the engine is off.
It's "smart" in that it knows when to turn on, not that it knows when Li is charged. I do charge mine with an isolator but I put in an inline switch to disable the isolator when voltage climbs higher than I want
@@accelerateoffgridtouring thank you! Do you know what years Honda Odyssey will require a battery to battery charger instead of an isolator because of a smart alternator?
So on a rv setup with a isolator and agm house batteries should the starting battery be a agm rather than a flooded lead acid ? If all are agm will this change the only getting 80 % ?
im installing a 4000watt inverter in my 07 uplander with two deep cycle batteries in back plus my alternator is 125amp I like to know should I use 125 or better fuse for this set up inline between battery and inverter.
Promaster Ram Van Man Needs Help With An AC DC Set Up In a 2016 159' Promaster Hi Top!... HI! Thanks so much for your videos! I'm sorry to ask you for help when you've done such a nice job on your video already. But I'm confused! And, I'd "really really appreciate" just "Any Advice" you all can give me for my AC & DC power needs. And if ya think DC-DC charger is needed. And if so, could ya please tell me how to get one shipped to US? I'm thinking I probably do need one. B/c, I need to power up "2" 1000 Watt Amplifiers" (drawing 2.3 Amps a piece) for "Two" 2 Hour Shows ("Without Having To Recharge The Batteries!"). One on Sat & One on Sunday! But if 2 100 Amp batteries won't handle the task? I'll run outta power and I'll need a DC DC charger for my Sun Show. Or, another item I need, which is an AC Receptacle which, I guess would go to an AC To DC battery charger as well Since I'll only run my amps at 3/4 power for 4 total hours, I'll be powering about 750 watts each. So, I'm hoping that a couple 100 or 110 Amp or even 120 amp (if needed) deep cell sealed batteries (or lithium Ion Batts) hooked up in parallel; will power my amps. If so, at the end of weekend' I'll take them home and trickle charge them during the week; to prepare for the next upcoming gig! But it still just may not be enough! So my question is: Will "2" 12 V, 100 Amp Batteries (of any kind?) power my "2" 1000 Watt Amps For Two "2 Hour Shows" at 3/4 volume? I do realize that, "Testing Them" would of course tell me. But, I'm trying to figure it all out first!! This way, I know what kind of batteries & inverter etc. to get. Plus, I need an A/C Receptacle that I can plug a power chord up to (on the outside of the van) and then (on the inside of the van)... Have it go to (I think) an A/B Switch, where... I think I'd be choosing between the following... A) Power coming from the receptacle that would supply AC power to (I'm guessing) a AC to DC charger for charging up the dual aux batteries to power the inverter and the amps that (w/an inverter) may draw 4 amps at the very most. B) Vehicle's Starting Battery that (I'm guessing), will go to a DC to DC Charger that will allow me to charge all the batteries via the van's alternator if that is not too much on the van's alternator. I've heard of a device that can automatically recognize when AC is plugged up and then automatically stop using the battery power. Unless it still sends the power onto the batteries but keeps them charged. Not sure what happens when AC power is provided when batteries run low. Maybe the AC Power is converted and I can keep my amps plugged up to the inverter & batteries, instead of having to unplug the amps and have to then plug them into the A/C receptacle? Not sure. But, I am sure that many folks use DC and through some simply process; they then switch to AC. I'm just not sure how, or what I need to power up. And, how to hook it all up. But I sure hope someone will please help me understand. B/c I have so much to figure out to convert my van, so I can bring folks the entertainment! Also, since I'm going to run a box fan or, maybe just a 10 or 12" fan, and, since I also need to run a laptop for a few hours each weekend as well... I'm thinking a 100 Watt solar panel suitcase may power most fans but don't know how long. Also, for a few hours of laptop use, I've just ordered a Chavon 326 Watt Battery Generator which I think should work ok! So I have at least bought my first item ha! YAE!!!! LOL!!!! I just hope that Two 12 Volt 100 (or 110 or 120 Amp Batts?); will power 1500 watts for 4 hours! I have heard a 100 Watt Solar Suitcase will power a box fan! I just don't know how long? And, I'm pretty sure the 326 watt Chavon battery generator will power the laptop. Just not sure how long. And I'm not sure of anything yet really! So, I'd be "Grateful" for "Anyone" (successfully running something similar) telling me "Anything" to help me figure it all out... So I can start planning my conversion van project! Also... I Really Appreciate the time you've taken to read my post about my needs and ideas! And, any time you may take to help advise me on what the items I need; Where I can go to get em and; a diagram for hook up if you'd be so kind! Thanks So Much!!!
> could ya please tell me how to get one shipped to US They are all over amazon. > at the end of weekend' I'll take them home and trickle charge them during the week; t FULLY charge them back home, and allow lead to float. Lithium won't need float. Google "AGM charging for weekenders" > if that is not too much on the van's alternator. Promaster comes stock with 180A alternator and has a 220A optional alt. > Plus, I need an A/C Receptacle that I can plug a power chord up to Automatic transfer swiches will select between inverter and shore power (when available)
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I'd listen to her talk about programming a vcr. Only thing missing is a Koala Bear. Very enjoyable vid.
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If you live in Boston, its what you use to start your car :)
*thanks for this information very helpful*
Very easy to understand
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Such a great informative video, thanks!
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Thank you so much! A very informative video.
I have a 2011 Chevrolet Suburban that the family uses for sing-a-long joy rides, camping and driving in flooding streets. It was suggested that I set up the following rig for more effective battery usage. I would really appreciate you guys opinion about this...
diode battery isolator:
Primary battery- to car starter amp
Secondary battery- to all audio, custom subwoofer, all dvd-blueray screens (kids watching movies & online videos)
Alternate battery- inverter, battery charging docks, fridge & heaters when camping
What would it visually look like to DIY set up something like this?
Thanks for your comment!
Unfortunately we do not know what is available interstate to be able to provide you with accurate information regarding what you are trying to achieve.
Wow that was great. Cheers for the tips, awesome.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
How do I avoid overcharging my leisure battery (small amp hours)
In practice it is a non-issue. A plain or smart isolator won't overcharge a lead-acid leisure batt since the alternator voltage is so low (possible exception of Gel batts that have lower Vabs requirements). A DC-DC won't overcharge because of the programmed stages will allow it to drop to Float.
@@fratermus5502 If I got around to it I would be using a Lithium 50 AH Battery, got solar at the moment, cheers!
Do not use with lithium iron sulfate batteries...could destroy your alternator...instead use a DC- DC charge controller between main battery & aux..battery..Infact should be used with lead acid as well..!!!
Cheers
What I’m hearing from this is that if I have an older style alternator (2003 Jeep TJ), An isolator is adequate. Furthermore, a DC-DC charger would more or less be a waste of money. Correct?
Hi Jay mind ya business. Thanks for your comment. An Isolator will only charge an auxiliary battery to 80% as it does not condition the battery to 100% like a DCDC charger would. With modern batteries we recommend a Dc-Dc charger for correct charging applications.
@@accelerateoffgridtouring
So I have a very small 56Ah AGM auxiliary battery bank which is made up of (x2) 28Ah batteries in parallel for the refrigerator in my Jeep. Id love to run a DCDC charger between my starter battery and my battery bank but the smallest DCDC I’ve found is 20A which puts out too much power for my 56Ah setup. Are there any DCDC options for a bank as small as mine?
Is there a setup for a Jeep renegade Trailhawk?
How does one know it they have a computer controlled alternator? Or roughly what years did they start using compter controlled alternators?
@@accelerateoffgridtouring Thanks very much for the detailed reply.
I have a 2007 Jeep Commander. I have a 200ah AGM battery that I want to use as the aux battery.
Do I need the isolator or the dc to dc?
What gauge wire should I use to run to it?
When camping and with the car off, can I hook up my solar panel to the aux battery without having to do anything to the isolator?
nothing better than a hot aussie chick talking about off roading
Is the isolator the same or similar to a continuous solenoid?
An isolator is typically a continuouis-duty solenoid. A "smart" isolator is the same but with voltage-sensing circuits that try to run the isolator only when the starter battery is being actively charged. The cut-in is typically something like 13.4v.
In this case can I use a Solar Panel always connected to the Auxiliary Battery to charge the auxiliary battery when the car is moving (solar panel with solar regulator + alternator charging) or parking (engine off - only solar charging)?
Yes, multiple charging sources can be applied to the same battery bank.
Note that solar charging voltage (or resting Li voltage) can confuse some "smart" isolators. They can get tricked into keeping the relay closed when the engine is off.
very good video
Can this smart battery alternator work on a 200ah lithium leisure battery?
It's "smart" in that it knows when to turn on, not that it knows when Li is charged. I do charge mine with an isolator but I put in an inline switch to disable the isolator when voltage climbs higher than I want
How would the radio drain the lights if the starting battery is isolated when not running?
@@accelerateoffgridtouring thank you! Do you know what years Honda Odyssey will require a battery to battery charger instead of an isolator because of a smart alternator?
Her accent is mesmerizing.
I was thinking the same ..where the mind goes.. I spent the first minute learning the rest was wondering if she had a big brother...
So on a rv setup with a isolator and agm house batteries should the starting battery be a agm rather than a flooded lead acid ? If all are agm will this change the only getting 80 % ?
im installing a 4000watt inverter in my 07 uplander with two deep cycle batteries in back plus my alternator is 125amp I like to know should I use 125 or better fuse for this set up inline between battery and inverter.
Can this work for my 2005 Land Cruiser vx 100 with factory dual battery?
Thx next time I go camping I’m leaving the power toys at home
I want to add a second battery to my 1992 dodge Dakota, what do I need. no clue what the alternator is, sorry
Pretty much a battery charger that’s on the side of the engine. Keeps the battery charged wile running fuel pump lights radio etc etc.
Promaster Ram Van Man Needs Help With An AC DC Set Up In a 2016 159' Promaster Hi Top!...
HI! Thanks so much for your videos! I'm sorry to ask you for help when you've done such a nice job on your video already. But I'm confused! And, I'd "really really appreciate" just "Any Advice" you all can give me for my AC & DC power needs. And if ya think DC-DC charger is needed. And if so, could ya please tell me how to get one shipped to US? I'm thinking I probably do need one. B/c, I need to power up "2" 1000 Watt Amplifiers" (drawing 2.3 Amps a piece) for "Two" 2 Hour Shows ("Without Having To Recharge The Batteries!"). One on Sat & One on Sunday! But if 2 100 Amp batteries won't handle the task? I'll run outta power and I'll need a DC DC charger for my Sun Show. Or, another item I need, which is an AC Receptacle which, I guess would go to an AC To DC battery charger as well
Since I'll only run my amps at 3/4 power for 4 total hours, I'll be powering about 750 watts each. So, I'm hoping that a couple 100 or 110 Amp or even 120 amp (if needed) deep cell sealed batteries (or lithium Ion Batts) hooked up in parallel; will power my amps. If so, at the end of weekend' I'll take them home and trickle charge them during the week; to prepare for the next upcoming gig! But it still just may not be enough! So my question is: Will "2" 12 V, 100 Amp Batteries (of any kind?) power my "2" 1000 Watt Amps For Two "2 Hour Shows" at 3/4 volume?
I do realize that, "Testing Them" would of course tell me. But, I'm trying to figure it all out first!! This way, I know what kind of batteries & inverter etc. to get. Plus, I need an A/C Receptacle that I can plug a power chord up to (on the outside of the van) and then (on the inside of the van)... Have it go to (I think) an A/B Switch, where... I think I'd be choosing between the following...
A) Power coming from the receptacle that would supply AC power to (I'm guessing) a AC to DC charger for charging up the dual aux batteries to power the inverter and the amps that (w/an inverter) may draw 4 amps at the very most.
B) Vehicle's Starting Battery that (I'm guessing), will go to a DC to DC Charger that will allow me to charge all the batteries via the van's alternator if that is not too much on the van's alternator.
I've heard of a device that can automatically recognize when AC is plugged up and then automatically stop using the battery power. Unless it still sends the power onto the batteries but keeps them charged. Not sure what happens when AC power is provided when batteries run low. Maybe the AC Power is converted and I can keep my amps plugged up to the inverter & batteries, instead of having to unplug the amps and have to then plug them into the A/C receptacle? Not sure. But, I am sure that many folks use DC and through some simply process; they then switch to AC. I'm just not sure how, or what I need to power up. And, how to hook it all up. But I sure hope someone will please help me understand. B/c I have so much to figure out to convert my van, so I can bring folks the entertainment!
Also, since I'm going to run a box fan or, maybe just a 10 or 12" fan, and, since I also need to run a laptop for a few hours each weekend as well... I'm thinking a 100 Watt solar panel suitcase may power most fans but don't know how long. Also, for a few hours of laptop use, I've just ordered a Chavon 326 Watt Battery Generator which I think should work ok! So I have at least bought my first item ha! YAE!!!! LOL!!!! I just hope that Two 12 Volt 100 (or 110 or 120 Amp Batts?); will power 1500 watts for 4 hours! I have heard a 100 Watt Solar Suitcase will power a box fan! I just don't know how long? And, I'm pretty sure the 326 watt Chavon battery generator will power the laptop. Just not sure how long. And I'm not sure of anything yet really! So, I'd be "Grateful" for "Anyone" (successfully running something similar) telling me "Anything" to help me figure it all out... So I can start planning my conversion van project! Also... I Really Appreciate the time you've taken to read my post about my needs and ideas! And, any time you may take to help advise me on what the items I need; Where I can go to get em and; a diagram for hook up if you'd be so kind!
Thanks So Much!!!
Thanks!
> could ya please tell me how to get one shipped to US
They are all over amazon.
> at the end of weekend' I'll take them home and trickle charge them during the week; t
FULLY charge them back home, and allow lead to float. Lithium won't need float.
Google "AGM charging for weekenders"
> if that is not too much on the van's alternator.
Promaster comes stock with 180A alternator and has a 220A optional alt.
> Plus, I need an A/C Receptacle that I can plug a power chord up to
Automatic transfer swiches will select between inverter and shore power (when available)
I'd buy whatever she's selling !!! 😍
Great job accent sounds good too
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