You’re totally right. The definition of insanity is the incapacity to form criminal intent necessary for legal responsibility. Chris is an evil malignant narcissist.
I think she was definitely involved. She lied through her teeth. Watching her interviews, I can't believe they didn't suspect her. She needed to be fully investigated.
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning! 2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work. 3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them. 4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing. 5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris! 6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone. 7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police. = SHE WAS INVOLVED.
@zara-zq1oi I've always wondered ehat it is about Chris that had this demon so obsessed to the point she forced this coward to commit such a heinous crime, he didnt have the backbone to say no and then get a divorce or something..then they didn't even get to be together cause Nicole called the cops right away cause she knew her friend like the back of her hand..
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning! 2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work. 3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them. 4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing. 5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris! 6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone. 7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police. = SHE WAS INVOLVED.
In exactly what way?? Chris Watts killed his wife and two children. No one else. He could've changed his mind at any time. And it doesn't matter if there was anyone else with him - or not. He is a psychopath
It wasn't what they knew but who they knew. Nicole's Dad is a Cop, she gets a deal in return for her statement against Chris. It should be noted that she said nothing against Shannan
Kinsey, thank you for covering true crime! The way you organize, present, and interview is well suited to it, and you can help a lot of interested people understand and learn from it. Keep it up please!
I'm in the UK and followed this case in 2018 and was always convinced that Nicole was part of what happened and actually helped Chris in the early morning that he took the body of his wife and the kids out to the oil field.
Nicole's phone pinged early by Chris's house on the morning of the murder. She wanted to be his 'first'. Nicole's interview needs analysis by the behaviour panel. Listen to her interviews, the tone of her voice. Nicole got away with it.
There was one specific moment where Nichol makes it a point to inappropriately compliment the male officer’s polo (seriously, it was legitimately just a regular polo) in the middle of giving an answer to the officer’s question *about the disappearance & presumed murder of a woman and her two babies*. It was WILD.
Hi Kinsey ♥️ I truly believe that his Mistress NK murdered those beautiful little girls and he killed his wife. They did all of it together! It’s so upsetting that she was never held accountable for anything. Hopefully God willing she will be found out one day soon. I also think her father had something to do with her not being held accountable, 😖
I think the girlfriend knew more than she was letting on. I do think she was pushing him to choose between them and for some reason he thought he could wipe the slate clean by killing them. Chilling.
There is vague evidence she helped him dispose of the bodies. The truck at his house and a faint outline of someone with a ponytail. And her online activity. I agree with you, Kinsey.
I have always thot she had something to do with this case and I appreciate you covering it. Its sickening she got away with whatever part she did play.
Exactly! If you watched her interviews, she LIED and LIED and the investigator basically treated this poor excuse for a human being as a "victim" of Watts. He, was her victim who she converted into a monster like her.
Exactly! If you watched her interviews, she LIED and LIED and the investigator basically treated this poor excuse for a human being as a "victim" of Watts. He, was her victim who she converted into a monster like her.
He should of been given the Death Penalty straight away. One of the most horrible crimes I have ever seen in my 61 years of life. He needs to take responsibility for his disgusting actions.
I’ve always thought that Nicole kessinger had something 2 do with the murders. To me Chris didn’t seem clever enough 2 think the whole thing up by himself
@@susivarga7303it’s not but iv watched enough true crime to know not many murder plots are smart… 1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning! 2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work. 3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them. 4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing. 5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris! 6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone. 7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police. = SHE WAS INVOLVED.
It wasn't clever. It was an ill-conceived, badly executed disaster. How was he planning to explain the sudden disappearance of his family when people knew about the problems in the marriage? And why would he place the bodies of his wife and children on at own work site? He's stupid.
@@zara-zq1oi I did not say she wasn't. I just reacted to op claiming the plan was clever Actually, the plan being so idiotic makes me wonder if a cunning, manipulative mistress could be involved at all.
I want to know why NK's father was permitted to sit in during her interrogation. He was acting as if he was her legal counsel. I've never seen an interrogation like it. That alone is suspicious to me.
It was not a detainee interrogation. It was a witness voluntarily offering info. Under those circumstances, with no cause for detaining her, they had to do whatever it took to keep her in the room and start the ball rolling. It was a good move.
A witness? So she WAS there? Sounds like those suspicions are warranted. She absolutely was involved. No one acts like that when they're innocent. She wasnt even shocked that her boyfriend murdered his entire family. The most emotion she showed was when she brought up that he had told her he had found his wife' wedding ring and she, annoyed, said she told him to pawn it. That alone is enough to raise an eyebrow. Then all the googes searches,stalking before hand, etc....I dont know any reasonable person wouldnt draw the conclusion that she likely either was aware of it or had some participation in it. Not an innocent person at all. @@susivarga7303
Didnt Nicole Google Shannon a whole year before the murders in September of the year before? Wasn't that proven in records? I do believe I saw that in retracted phone records. To me that shows she was stalking Chris and Shannon a full year before.
What sad horrible incomprehensible murder/s...interesting watch..kinsey you are an astute detailed journalist..very versatile and talented in your approach 👏
I followed this from the start and so many excellent utube crime creators were cancelled because they said she was involved. Her GPS, no alibi - her interrogation was sketchy! I knew this wouldn’t go away.
I'm glad your talking about this ....she guilty as hell phone ping car so so much ..that giggle on a voicemail was sinister..rip Shannon and those beautiful children. I hope justice will be served 🙏
I agree with you Kinsey. The search Nicole made before even meeting Chris, spelling Shanann’s name correctly. Even without evidence to look at and hold I think we all know she was behind it. That’s why she wanted to listen to the phone call he had with the detective- she was either scared he’d crack or her guilty conscience told her to stay in the know on everything about this case. Those two are such a level of evil that it’s hard to fathom.
This type of murderer truly thinks and wants people to believe ill of their female victims, even though it's totally out of their previous character or behavior patterns. 'She left town without contacting anyone, including her own family, she abandoned her husband and didn't let him know where his children are. How could she? She's a bad woman.' These men think they can blame the woman, keep the assets, and get sympathy from others in the process.
I aways thought the mistress hid something. Chris' parents are also something else, especially the mother. She blamed Shanann for her own murder during a TV interview. A complete narcissistic psycho. If you have the stomach to watch it. Good luck.
Since his horrendous crimes were committed, he has cited “an unstoppable force”, “Shanaan herself”, demonic possession”, and now his mistress… anyone but himself. His refusal or psychological inability to take responsibility for his own decisions & actions is very telling. He is truly a monster & beneath contempt.
This is what I believe. If you think about how some coercive people persuade their partners to sign away financial rights, human rights , give up families etc it is not so difficult to understand. Humans are influenced through advertising, advisors etc. This phenomena sits on that cline of coercion. On one end of the cline it will be mild behavioral modification on the other it's criminal. And if this man was raised to accept these sorts of relationships - this was the norm for him. He pays the price - whatever he says won't change that, but it may help society prevent others doing the same.
No it was 100 percent cw. This blaming a woman for a man's crime. There really is little motive for nk why there was much motive for chris who had this hate built over many years which his family as well made it ok. Some people claim nk was jealous becuase of the posts on Facebook but in reality shannan was just pretending everything was perfect and most people find her Facebook too much anyway. And nk had her own life and own way of doing things rightly or wrongly so i see no reason this idea she wanted shannans life and it was chris that told her the marriage wasn't working and they were getting a divorce so she knows their life on facebook is not the reality. She clearly didn't know when the family went missing he killed them and of course no one suspect that happened unless you were part of this or you knew shannan well which her neighbor did but nk didnt. It is just the same misogyny that chris plays too that women tell him what to do when on reality as with all men if it is important to them they aren't going to just do what a woman tells them.
@notbaltic280 no it was all his idea and neither nk or cw knew the other well enough to plan a murder thst they don't know if the other will go along and not go to the cops or just be scared away from the relationship. Chris was acting using his nice guy persona and nk had no idea the level of hate towards his wife. She had zero to do with it.
And the idea nk wanted shannans perfect life and perfect family I mean she knew it wasn't the reality from what chris told her that this was just marketing for the mlm thrive om facebook and actually she had debt issues.
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning! 2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work. 3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them. 4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing. 5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris! 6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone. 7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police. = SHE WAS INVOLVED. And
Chris Watts will never man up and take responsibility because his Mum says it's Shannan's fault. I notice his Mum has never mentioned Kessenger. Now Chris wants us to believe that God doesn't want him in jail
She didn’t have to go to the area covered by that camera. A neighbour, Betty, one house away described seeing her vehicle the next morning further along.
When several narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths gang up, are in a friendship or relationship, they hype each other up to do evil things. They plan evil stuff together, commit the crime together and then cover up for each other.
There was a video that shows Nicole leaving the Watts House the early Morning of the Horrific Incident. I think it came from the ring doorbell or the Neighbours Security Camera
Yes, people are still interested in this because if you’ve watched the interviews of Nichol Kessinger, she lies so much in those interviews that it’s obvious that she has some level of involvement. There are a lot of people who want the case re-opened and Nichol Kessinger put on a lie detector and asked about her involvement. There was some kind of agreement with NK beforehand. Why did she bring her dad to the first two interviews? She was 30 years old, not a kid or a teenager. And why is the DA so protective of her that he has come out and said (on his wife’s TH-cam channel) that people need to stop contacting him and asking him to reopen the case and investigate NK, that she isn’t guilty of anything and all of us are a bunch of internet detectives and we don’t know how to do the law enforcement and attorneys jobs and to leave him alone. Why did NK delete all of her phone info involving Chris Watts and tried to destroy her SIM card? Why did her phone ping near the Watts’ home at 6:16am on the day of the murders. Why did she not show up to work until afternoon and then leave early at 3pm? Most people who can’t leave this case alone believe NK was involved in some way.
She knew married, pregnant wife, and 2 small girls. In light of her truck and a ping on her cell phone she was in the area. And she was there for a reason. I don’t think she wanted him to do what he did but once it was done she was aware of Shannan’s death. She may have walked away after she saw that he had killed her. At this point the girls were still alive. She at the very least knew Shannan was dead but not about the girls. He killed them at the work site.
This guy is clueless Kinsey. So many youtubers have covered this case extensively that can give reasons why Nicole was involved. You know more than this guy knows. At least you are giving facts of Nicole's lies, google searches, phone destruction and so much more. You can pick out and compare Nicole's inconsistencies in her first 2 or 3 interviews. I followed daily and it's hard to get off Watts' Island
I don’t think the mistress physically had anything to do with the murders. I do think she played mind games with him . I think she influenced him by saying things like I want to give you a baby boy . She was morally wrong and walked away without a scratch .
No one can make a man murder his wife, unborn son and two little girls; and unless Nicole had a gun to his head, she was not an accomplice to the crime.
The DA didn't do there job right when they interviewed NK ...and her dad interveened far to much when they was questioning her, she was an adult she should of been interviewed alone , she deleted all her txt messages to chris and deleted lots of meta data ...the morning of the murders she was on the phone to CW for over an hour but when questioned couldn't remember what they spoke about !!! DA should be held accountable for not doing there job right !
Sehe ich genauso ,der sollte verklagt werden ,wegen Vertuschung der Beweise ,ich hoffe das S.W. und Babys Gerechtigkeit bekommen,es wird langsam Zeit🤨😴
It truly horrific how that could be done to shannon but more incomprehensible those three poor babies. CW blamed his wife and feel mistress was a factor. If she hasn't remained in touch he will blame her as never accepted responsibility. ❤
How could Nicole Kessingers phone have pinged in the area of the Watts hous, in the early hours of the morning of those terrible murders if she and her phone were not in that area ??
Of course he blames Nicole. I mean, he apparently slipped and fell in to her. And as Chris is very, very clumsy, it not only happened repeatedly at one occasion, but repeatedly during many occasions. 🤦🏼♀️
There’s SO MUCH more here than meets the eye. She also googled the address of Chris and Shanann the night before the incident . Hummmmm maybe she realized he hadn’t put the house on the market and was angry, which is possibly why he called the realtor the next day. Also, he deleted his facebook about 2 weeks after they were well on their way to an affair, maybe because he didn’t want NK’s friends to start snooping around and follow the trail?
Shan'nan did not make any money at all ...all she did was spend Chris's money and put them in debt over $400,000! She wouldn't have been able to keep that house if she worked five jobs. She was a hypochondriac, plagued with OCD and suffered Munchausen by proxy trying to make her little girls think they were sick all the time keeping them pumped up with medication. Chris should have just walked away from her. She certainly wasn't worth spending the rest of his life in prison for. Nobody is, and she was not driven by love she was driven by greed and codependency. It was proven she couldn't hold on to a man . Way to controlling and who the hell wants to live their life online? I think Shan'nan played a big part in getting herself and her children murdered. You could always see Chris in the background of those stupid Facebook posts and you could tell he was disgusted and miserable with her.
Also obsessed w/ this case, Kinsey! While *obviously* what Chris did was beyond evil and hell is too good for him, I just couldn’t help but notice the similarities between the personalities of Shanann & Meghan Markle, tbh. The relationship dynamics between the couples were/are striking (between Shanann&Meghan’s public attention-seeking behaviors, obsessive need to project an illusion of perfection, dominant/abrasive personalities, spending insanely beyond their means, catalysts for estrangement from the mens’ families, etc.). When royal commentators say the RF has been concerned about the trajectory of H&M’s seemingly inevitable split for years, it’s outcomes like the Watts’s that likely terrify them.
And I tend to agree that Nichol was involved more likely than not. The fact she had Chris send her a pic from the Oil site the morning of the body disposal, to prove he was there, sealed the deal for me.
Question that we need to bear in mind: who is responsible for an act , the puppet or the puppet master? If the puppet is genuinely of diminished responsible - the statement "crazy ramblings" would suggest that - then surely we have to ask this question. It doesn't alter that society needs to be protected against the "puppet" - but it does change the nature of that protection. The idiom "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the World" came about through centuries of observation. We should not blithely dismiss compound knowledge as unfounded prejudice.
That book would just be a snooze fest. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He was always just sort of an even keel, blank slate that Shannan could direct and manipulate. This in no way makes her guilty for her own murder and the murder of their daughters, regardless of what he wants us to believe. The hubris! The innate evil hidden just under his surface was activated by lust for his mistress. Chris failed to blame Shannan for what he did, and now I doubt he'll be able to pass the buck to Nicole. It's too late, whether she was involved or not.
Why are you talking to this guy? He’s obviously clueless about the case. There are so many TH-camrs that you could talk to that no so much and have investigated Very in-depth from the beginning.
Chris and his father was so stupid by not saying they want a lawyer!!! Which turned out better for Shanann's family!!! It's a bit too late to bring in Jezebel!!! She went to the cops herself rite away!!! Hearing her on tape I will always believe she helped Chris in everyway!!! May Shanann and her babies rest in peace forevermore!!! 🌿🌹🌿
On a related note, someone should look into that product that she sold that he was using. I won't say the name here but it's not difficult to find. I have a mild mood disorder, but that stuff sent me into a state of mania, a prolonged "up", where I lost like 30 lbs and was getting in shape (which was a good thing) but I was taking risks with my career and money, and became practically obsessed with a man that was no good. With very heightened sx drive. Sound familiar? That product has a LOT of ingredients including a proprietary blend that i haven't seen in other similar products. I used it for a whole year, everyday, and then one day I just gagged when I tried to drink the shake, lol. Once I stopped using it, within a couple of months I evened out. This was in 2016-2017.
Shannan was devastated with grief. She is no longer alone in her fight since August 13, 2018!! She has N-A, Nat, the police and the whole world, including international TH-camrs and anonymous people who continue to defend with force and conviction, her memory and that of her 3 babies, beyond anything she could imagine !
NIcole seemed like a phoney and a creep who couldn't care less about Shanane and the "kiddos" but Chris, alone, murdered his wife and children. She's too smart to be directly involved in something like that.
I do believe Nicole knew something would take place that night,early hrs of the morning.I do believe she was casing the area.Nicole was a stalker.Nicole is a predator. She messed with his mind,and it was nothing but lust,the forbidden fruit.Morally she is accountable.Nicole helped destroy a family.I doubt Nicole’s life,would be easy.My husband had an affair many years ago,believe me,I know the type of woman Nicole is.Blessings from Australia 🇦🇺.Rest in peace Shanann and her babies.❤
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They were not reported missing on October 18th, please check your facts.
It's NOT insanity....It is EVIL personified period.
You’re totally right. The definition of insanity is the incapacity to form criminal intent necessary for legal responsibility. Chris is an evil malignant narcissist.
It can be both - insanity and evil.
I agree. Nicole should be held accountable.
Nicole's Dad is a high ranking Police Officer. A deal was made and Nicole threw Chris under the bus and walked. Simple
Fascinating! His mother is a nightmare, you can almost see why he turned out how he did.
His mom was a nasty piece of work. She repeatedly bad mouthed the woman her son murdered. A decent person would not do that.
@@chilipepper9498she did badmouth shannan when she thought shannan had hurt the children. That’s what watts initially confessed to.
Like mother, like son - both are sociopaths or psychopaths.
@@Greenbeans70 she hated Shannan from the minute she met her. A real threat to Cindy's control is a woman more intelligent than she is
Welcome to my Mother In Law. Just bloody cold.
I think she was definitely involved. She lied through her teeth. Watching her interviews, I can't believe they didn't suspect her. She needed to be fully investigated.
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning!
2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work.
3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them.
4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing.
5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris!
6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone.
7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police.
= SHE WAS INVOLVED.
@zara-zq1oi I've always wondered ehat it is about Chris that had this demon so obsessed to the point she forced this coward to commit such a heinous crime, he didnt have the backbone to say no and then get a divorce or something..then they didn't even get to be together cause Nicole called the cops right away cause she knew her friend like the back of her hand..
I completely believe him, he is guilty af but she was in on it
I loved when the FBI agent looks at Watts and goes "So your not a good liar" after administering the lie detector test.
This was a truly horrific crime.
Thank God for her good friend Nickole Atkinson for refusing to give up and phoning the police. I'm sure this helped solve this so quickly.
Nikole Atkinson and Officer Coonrod are the real heroes here
She even said how he might have done it.
I think that She is DEFINITELY, 100% involved in some way
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning!
2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work.
3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them.
4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing.
5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris!
6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone.
7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police.
= SHE WAS INVOLVED.
In exactly what way?? Chris Watts killed his wife and two children. No one else. He could've changed his mind at any time. And it doesn't matter if there was anyone else with him - or not. He is a psychopath
THANKYOU a thousand times for addressing the injustices of ignored evidence of a colluding murderer. It’s like an itch that can’t be scratched.
It wasn't what they knew but who they knew. Nicole's Dad is a Cop, she gets a deal in return for her statement against Chris. It should be noted that she said nothing against Shannan
@@suemcgregor9248 He's not. He's a mason.
Kinsey, thank you for covering true crime! The way you organize, present, and interview is well suited to it, and you can help a lot of interested people understand and learn from it. Keep it up please!
I'm in the UK and followed this case in 2018 and was always convinced that Nicole was part of what happened and actually helped Chris in the early morning that he took the body of his wife and the kids out to the oil field.
I agree with Kinsey. Nicole kessinger was creepy. Off the wall creepy.
Nicole's phone pinged early by Chris's house on the morning of the murder. She wanted to be his 'first'. Nicole's interview needs analysis by the behaviour panel. Listen to her interviews, the tone of her voice. Nicole got away with it.
There was one specific moment where Nichol makes it a point to inappropriately compliment the male officer’s polo (seriously, it was legitimately just a regular polo) in the middle of giving an answer to the officer’s question *about the disappearance & presumed murder of a woman and her two babies*. It was WILD.
She constantly refused to say Shan'ann's name. Would only refer to her as "that woman". 🤬
His mother was awful. I will agree with what someone else said here for chris to take the lives of those lovely little girls who adored him is so sad
Great guest and episode. Keep doing OTHER than H/M! ❤
Excellent analysis and show Kinsey. I'm appreciating your multifaceted talent and reporting. Stay unfiltered ✌
Love you Kinsey! You are totally unfiltered 😊, you make my day!
Hi Kinsey ♥️ I truly believe that his Mistress NK murdered those beautiful little girls and he killed his wife. They did all of it together! It’s so upsetting that she was never held accountable for anything. Hopefully God willing she will be found out one day soon. I also think her father had something to do with her not being held accountable, 😖
I’ve watched her police interviews and I’m shocked they didn’t pursue her involvement more.
I think the girlfriend knew more than she was letting on. I do think she was pushing him to choose between them and for some reason he thought he could wipe the slate clean by killing them. Chilling.
There is vague evidence she helped him dispose of the bodies. The truck at his house and a faint outline of someone with a ponytail. And her online activity. I agree with you, Kinsey.
I have always thot she had something to do with this case and I appreciate you covering it. Its sickening she got away with whatever part she did play.
Exactly! If you watched her interviews, she LIED and LIED and the investigator basically treated this poor excuse for a human being as a "victim" of Watts. He, was her victim who she converted into a monster like her.
Exactly! If you watched her interviews, she LIED and LIED and the investigator basically treated this poor excuse for a human being as a "victim" of Watts. He, was her victim who she converted into a monster like her.
He should of been given the Death Penalty straight away. One of the most horrible crimes I have ever seen in my 61 years of life. He needs to take responsibility for his disgusting actions.
I’ve always thought that Nicole kessinger had something 2 do with the murders. To me Chris didn’t seem clever enough 2 think the whole thing up by himself
Well, it wasn't THAT clever..... a trail of evidence, suspect after 5 minutes, caught with ease, broken to confess after a few hours.
@@susivarga7303it’s not but iv watched enough true crime to know not many murder plots are smart…
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning!
2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work.
3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them.
4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing.
5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris!
6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone.
7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police.
= SHE WAS INVOLVED.
@@zara-zq1oi
Both of them are basically horny dummies.
That was my point, the whole plan was stupid.
It wasn't clever. It was an ill-conceived, badly executed disaster. How was he planning to explain the sudden disappearance of his family when people knew about the problems in the marriage? And why would he place the bodies of his wife and children on at own work site? He's stupid.
@@zara-zq1oi
I did not say she wasn't. I just reacted to op claiming the plan was clever
Actually, the plan being so idiotic makes me wonder if a cunning, manipulative mistress could be involved at all.
I m o someone in prison, writing books, should not benefit monetarily from the books.
I want to know why NK's father was permitted to sit in during her interrogation. He was acting as if he was her legal counsel. I've never seen an interrogation like it. That alone is suspicious to me.
It was not a detainee interrogation. It was a witness voluntarily offering info. Under those circumstances, with no cause for detaining her, they had to do whatever it took to keep her in the room and start the ball rolling. It was a good move.
She was a witness.
To you guys everything is suspicious.
A witness? So she WAS there? Sounds like those suspicions are warranted.
She absolutely was involved. No one acts like that when they're innocent. She wasnt even shocked that her boyfriend murdered his entire family. The most emotion she showed was when she brought up that he had told her he had found his wife' wedding ring and she, annoyed, said she told him to pawn it. That alone is enough to raise an eyebrow. Then all the googes searches,stalking before hand, etc....I dont know any reasonable person wouldnt draw the conclusion that she likely either was aware of it or had some participation in it. Not an innocent person at all. @@susivarga7303
Didnt Nicole Google Shannon a whole year before the murders in September of the year before? Wasn't that proven in records? I do believe I saw that in retracted phone records. To me that shows she was stalking Chris and Shannon a full year before.
I've read all of this about Nicole before, and I think she was 100% in on it....
What sad horrible incomprehensible murder/s...interesting watch..kinsey you are an astute detailed journalist..very versatile and talented in your approach 👏
I followed this from the start and so many excellent utube crime creators were cancelled because they said she was involved. Her GPS, no alibi - her interrogation was sketchy!
I knew this wouldn’t go away.
I agree with Kinsey, the evidence points to her guilt
I'm glad your talking about this ....she guilty as hell phone ping car so so much ..that giggle on a voicemail was sinister..rip Shannon and those beautiful children. I hope justice will be served 🙏
She was definitely involved 💯
I agree with you Kinsey. The search Nicole made before even meeting Chris, spelling Shanann’s name correctly. Even without evidence to look at and hold I think we all know she was behind it. That’s why she wanted to listen to the phone call he had with the detective- she was either scared he’d crack or her guilty conscience told her to stay in the know on everything about this case. Those two are such a level of evil that it’s hard to fathom.
This type of murderer truly thinks and wants people to believe ill of their female victims, even though it's totally out of their previous character or behavior patterns. 'She left town without contacting anyone, including her own family, she abandoned her husband and didn't let him know where his children are. How could she? She's a bad woman.' These men think they can blame the woman, keep the assets, and get sympathy from others in the process.
I aways thought the mistress hid something. Chris' parents are also something else, especially the mother. She blamed Shanann for her own murder during a TV interview. A complete narcissistic psycho. If you have the stomach to watch it. Good luck.
Sick sick man
Since his horrendous crimes were committed, he has cited “an unstoppable force”, “Shanaan herself”, demonic possession”, and now his mistress… anyone but himself. His refusal or psychological inability to take responsibility for his own decisions & actions is very telling. He is truly a monster & beneath contempt.
He basically killed his girls twice! He is despicable.
He basically tried to kill Shannan twice too. He murdered her then tried to set her up for the little girls deaths
Just terrible 😞 😕
Great interview
I agree with you Kinsey!
Nicole Googled a lot of suspicious things.
That's true
NK and CW are despicable. One was the brain and the other the executioner of the dirty work. It's abominable ! Unspeakable !
This is what I believe. If you think about how some coercive people persuade their partners to sign away financial rights, human rights , give up families etc it is not so difficult to understand.
Humans are influenced through advertising, advisors etc. This phenomena sits on that cline of coercion. On one end of the cline it will be mild behavioral modification on the other it's criminal.
And if this man was raised to accept these sorts of relationships - this was the norm for him. He pays the price - whatever he says won't change that, but it may help society prevent others doing the same.
No it was 100 percent cw. This blaming a woman for a man's crime. There really is little motive for nk why there was much motive for chris who had this hate built over many years which his family as well made it ok. Some people claim nk was jealous becuase of the posts on Facebook but in reality shannan was just pretending everything was perfect and most people find her Facebook too much anyway. And nk had her own life and own way of doing things rightly or wrongly so i see no reason this idea she wanted shannans life and it was chris that told her the marriage wasn't working and they were getting a divorce so she knows their life on facebook is not the reality. She clearly didn't know when the family went missing he killed them and of course no one suspect that happened unless you were part of this or you knew shannan well which her neighbor did but nk didnt. It is just the same misogyny that chris plays too that women tell him what to do when on reality as with all men if it is important to them they aren't going to just do what a woman tells them.
@notbaltic280 no it was all his idea and neither nk or cw knew the other well enough to plan a murder thst they don't know if the other will go along and not go to the cops or just be scared away from the relationship. Chris was acting using his nice guy persona and nk had no idea the level of hate towards his wife. She had zero to do with it.
And the idea nk wanted shannans perfect life and perfect family I mean she knew it wasn't the reality from what chris told her that this was just marketing for the mlm thrive om facebook and actually she had debt issues.
1- There are TWO cars in the neighbours surveillance footage! Another neighbour says they saw her car there that morning!
2- Her phone pinged at their house that morning, something not reflected in her previous drives to work.
3- She asked Chris for photo proof that he was at the site where his family was found… the morning he buried them.
4- she told him to pawn the wedding ring when she knew shannan was missing.
5- she was searching shannan of Facebook months before meeting Chris!
6- she lied to police repetitively and deleted evidence from her phone.
7- her father was aloud to sit in on the interview and direct police. Her father is deeply connected to police.
= SHE WAS INVOLVED. And
Great show
Of course he is trying to point the finger elsewhere. If anything, they did this together.
I don't know if she was envolved. I do know they did not investigate her properly.
She was checking to make sure he did it.
Chris Watts will never man up and take responsibility because his Mum says it's Shannan's fault. I notice his Mum has never mentioned Kessenger. Now Chris wants us to believe that God doesn't want him in jail
Well we see what happens when christofur thinks for himself.
Wouldn’t the neighbours CCTV have picked up the mistresses vehicle?
She didn’t have to go to the area covered by that camera. A neighbour, Betty, one house away described seeing her vehicle the next morning further along.
Yes
When several narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths gang up, are in a friendship or relationship, they hype each other up to do evil things. They plan evil stuff together, commit the crime together and then cover up for each other.
Chris and Nichoe most hated Monsters of the world.
Yep she was involved, absolutely 😢
Ask yourself this: Woukd this have happened if the mistress wasn’t in the picture?
There was a video that shows Nicole leaving the Watts House the early Morning of the Horrific Incident. I think it came from the ring doorbell or the Neighbours Security Camera
Another raging narcissist that take 0 accountability
I think she showed up there.All hell broke loose.Only thing that makes any sense to me.
True crime and Royal news. So Kinsey is officially the best ever
How could he kill his children,wife and unborn child , a father is supposed to protect his children.
Yes, people are still interested in this because if you’ve watched the interviews of Nichol Kessinger, she lies so much in those interviews that it’s obvious that she has some level of involvement. There are a lot of people who want the case re-opened and Nichol Kessinger put on a lie detector and asked about her involvement. There was some kind of agreement with NK beforehand. Why did she bring her dad to the first two interviews? She was 30 years old, not a kid or a teenager. And why is the DA so protective of her that he has come out and said (on his wife’s TH-cam channel) that people need to stop contacting him and asking him to reopen the case and investigate NK, that she isn’t guilty of anything and all of us are a bunch of internet detectives and we don’t know how to do the law enforcement and attorneys jobs and to leave him alone.
Why did NK delete all of her phone info involving Chris Watts and tried to destroy her SIM card? Why did her phone ping near the Watts’ home at 6:16am on the day of the murders. Why did she not show up to work until afternoon and then leave early at 3pm?
Most people who can’t leave this case alone believe NK was involved in some way.
I could talk about this case forever. This guy is beyond frightening. Smothering 2 preschoolers...ur preschoolers. Is there any case that comes close?
My mind is blown!
She knew married, pregnant wife, and 2 small girls. In light of her truck and a ping on her cell phone she was in the area. And she was there for a reason. I don’t think she wanted him to do what he did but once it was done she was aware of Shannan’s death. She may have walked away after she saw that he had killed her. At this point the girls were still alive. She at the very least knew Shannan was dead but not about the girls. He killed them at the work site.
This guy is clueless Kinsey. So many youtubers have covered this case extensively that can give reasons why Nicole was involved. You know more than this guy knows. At least you are giving facts of Nicole's lies, google searches, phone destruction and so much more. You can pick out and compare Nicole's inconsistencies in her first 2 or 3 interviews. I followed daily and it's hard to get off Watts' Island
Nicole Kesinger is guilty as sin - doesn’t mean he’s any less evil!!!
I don’t think the mistress physically had anything to do with the murders. I do think she played mind games with him . I think she influenced him by saying things like I want to give you a baby boy . She was morally wrong and walked away without a scratch .
We all knew from the door cam she was involved.
No one can make a man murder his wife, unborn son and two little girls; and unless Nicole had a gun to his head, she was not an accomplice to the crime.
The DA didn't do there job right when they interviewed NK ...and her dad interveened far to much when they was questioning her, she was an adult she should of been interviewed alone , she deleted all her txt messages to chris and deleted lots of meta data ...the morning of the murders she was on the phone to CW for over an hour but when questioned couldn't remember what they spoke about !!! DA should be held accountable for not doing there job right !
Sehe ich genauso ,der sollte verklagt werden ,wegen Vertuschung der Beweise ,ich hoffe das S.W. und Babys Gerechtigkeit bekommen,es wird langsam Zeit🤨😴
It’s all on him.
Yes - the female detective said “chicks can be crazy” which allowed him to feel justified in blaming Shanann. It was a circus!
It truly horrific how that could be done to shannon but more incomprehensible those three poor babies. CW blamed his wife and feel mistress was a factor. If she hasn't remained in touch he will blame her as never accepted responsibility. ❤
How could Nicole Kessingers phone have pinged in the area of the Watts hous, in the early hours of the morning of those terrible murders if she and her phone were not in that area ??
Of course he blames Nicole.
I mean, he apparently slipped and fell in to her. And as Chris is very, very clumsy, it not only happened repeatedly at one occasion, but repeatedly during many occasions. 🤦🏼♀️
There’s SO MUCH more here than meets the eye. She also googled the address of Chris and Shanann the night before the incident . Hummmmm maybe she realized he hadn’t put the house on the market and was angry, which is possibly why he called the realtor the next day. Also, he deleted his facebook about 2 weeks after they were well on their way to an affair, maybe because he didn’t want NK’s friends to start snooping around and follow the trail?
Nice hearing you NOT talking about the stupid MM/PH cons and the BRF. Nice hearing you do real news.
I think because there was no trial there are still lots of questions need answering.
It's all Chris. No one forced him to do any of it. He would love that so many people are blaming the woman.
Of course she knew 😂
Nichole totally was involved.
Shan'nan did not make any money at all ...all she did was spend Chris's money and put them in debt over $400,000! She wouldn't have been able to keep that house if she worked five jobs. She was a hypochondriac, plagued with OCD and suffered Munchausen by proxy trying to make her little girls think they were sick all the time keeping them pumped up with medication. Chris should have just walked away from her. She certainly wasn't worth spending the rest of his life in prison for. Nobody is, and she was not driven by love she was driven by greed and codependency. It was proven she couldn't hold on to a man . Way to controlling and who the hell wants to live their life online? I think Shan'nan played a big part in getting herself and her children murdered. You could always see Chris in the background of those stupid Facebook posts and you could tell he was disgusted and miserable with her.
Nothing you say justifies murder. He hated her, walk away.
Also obsessed w/ this case, Kinsey! While *obviously* what Chris did was beyond evil and hell is too good for him, I just couldn’t help but notice the similarities between the personalities of Shanann & Meghan Markle, tbh. The relationship dynamics between the couples were/are striking (between Shanann&Meghan’s public attention-seeking behaviors, obsessive need to project an illusion of perfection, dominant/abrasive personalities, spending insanely beyond their means, catalysts for estrangement from the mens’ families, etc.). When royal commentators say the RF has been concerned about the trajectory of H&M’s seemingly inevitable split for years, it’s outcomes like the Watts’s that likely terrify them.
And I tend to agree that Nichol was involved more likely than not. The fact she had Chris send her a pic from the Oil site the morning of the body disposal, to prove he was there, sealed the deal for me.
I agree with Kinsey
I agreed with you not him!!
Question that we need to bear in mind: who is responsible for an act , the puppet or the puppet master?
If the puppet is genuinely of diminished responsible - the statement "crazy ramblings" would suggest that - then surely we have to ask this question.
It doesn't alter that society needs to be protected against the "puppet" - but it does change the nature of that protection.
The idiom "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the World" came about through centuries of observation. We should not blithely dismiss compound knowledge as unfounded prejudice.
That book would just be a snooze fest. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. He was always just sort of an even keel, blank slate that Shannan could direct and manipulate. This in no way makes her guilty for her own murder and the murder of their daughters, regardless of what he wants us to believe. The hubris!
The innate evil hidden just under his surface was activated by lust for his mistress.
Chris failed to blame Shannan for what he did, and now I doubt he'll be able to pass the buck to Nicole. It's too late, whether she was involved or not.
Why are you talking to this guy? He’s obviously clueless about the case. There are so many TH-camrs that you could talk to that no so much and have investigated Very in-depth from the beginning.
I can’t believe that I could hate him even more!
Chris and his father was so stupid by not saying they want a lawyer!!! Which turned out better for Shanann's family!!! It's a bit too late to bring in Jezebel!!! She went to the cops herself rite away!!! Hearing her on tape I will always believe she helped Chris in everyway!!! May Shanann and her babies rest in peace forevermore!!!
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Nk didn't go to the cops on her own, her job went to them first. Why you protecting a murderess?
On a related note, someone should look into that product that she sold that he was using. I won't say the name here but it's not difficult to find. I have a mild mood disorder, but that stuff sent me into a state of mania, a prolonged "up", where I lost like 30 lbs and was getting in shape (which was a good thing) but I was taking risks with my career and money, and became practically obsessed with a man that was no good. With very heightened sx drive. Sound familiar? That product has a LOT of ingredients including a proprietary blend that i haven't seen in other similar products. I used it for a whole year, everyday, and then one day I just gagged when I tried to drink the shake, lol. Once I stopped using it, within a couple of months I evened out. This was in 2016-2017.
Shannan was devastated with grief. She is no longer alone in her fight since August 13, 2018!! She has N-A, Nat, the police and the whole world, including international TH-camrs and anonymous people who continue to defend with force and conviction, her memory and that of her 3 babies, beyond anything she could imagine !
Her ph pinged in there area the morning of the murders. It never usually did only the two other times she said she was at the house.
NIcole seemed like a phoney and a creep who couldn't care less about Shanane and the "kiddos" but Chris, alone, murdered his wife and children. She's too smart to be directly involved in something like that.
I just dont believe, with him being the coward that he is, that he would have gone down without taking her with him, if she were actually involved
I agree with Ted.
Sorry, but this guy has no idea what he’s talking about. He needs to do his homework.
I believe he did it. Why were they all at his place of work if he was so innocent
I do believe Nicole knew something would take place that night,early hrs of the morning.I do believe she was casing the area.Nicole was a stalker.Nicole is a predator. She messed with his mind,and it was nothing but lust,the forbidden fruit.Morally she is accountable.Nicole helped destroy a family.I doubt Nicole’s life,would be easy.My husband had an affair many years ago,believe me,I know the type of woman Nicole is.Blessings from Australia 🇦🇺.Rest in peace Shanann and her babies.❤