Yamaha FJ09/FZ09/MT09 Tracer Slipper Clutch Upgrade and cable update

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  • @2007s197
    @2007s197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, this is exactly what i needed to find for my 2016 FJ. My basket is so bad now that my hands go numb in about 30 minutes. Ordering parts list tomorrow

  • @Nine_883
    @Nine_883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought that cable. I had to push my bike 1.2 miles yesterday. Good tip on that radiator mount. That’s why I watch these videos. The hurdles are exposed. Your pain is my reward so thanks for that little tip!,

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you appreciate it!

  • @alextaaffe8284
    @alextaaffe8284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is awesome! My clutch has become increasingly loud, and only at 14,000 miles. I've already done the clutch cable upgrade, but I will likely do this slipper clutch soon. It's so bad that it shakes the whole bike. It does go away when the lever is pulled in, but I think it's time to upgrade to the slipper. Thanks for this great video!

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to help. Put on that spring cushion washer thing opposite from what I did in the video. I went back and fixed it, but it seemed to work fine either way.

    • @Nine_883
      @Nine_883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is annoying too. I bought some Bluetooth ear buds.

  • @DirtyHammmer
    @DirtyHammmer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info. Ordered everything I’ll need for this swap on my fz09 and this vid will help a lot, thank you!

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, reportedly, that spring cushion washer should go on the other way. Hasn't caused any problems yet but I'm going to flip it around anyway.

    • @jj1607jj
      @jj1607jj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi, are you able to list all the parts in your description? thanks :)

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jj1607jj I'd have to pull the part numbers from the video at this point, same as you. If you post them as a reply here I'll change the description though

    • @jj1607jj
      @jj1607jj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blurglide
      Lighter Springs x 3
      B90-16173-00
      Adsorber Pads x 3
      1TD-16178-00
      Bolts x 3
      2CR-16337-00
      REAR PRESSURE PLATE
      B90-16352-00
      NUT
      90179-20010
      CLUTCH BOSS
      B90-16321-00
      PRESSURE PLATE
      B90-16350-00
      SLIPPER CLUTCH PACK (IN ORDER OF INSTALL)
      1TD-16384-00 - PLATE SEAT X 1
      1TD-16383-00 - SPRING CUSHION X 1
      B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
      5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
      B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
      1TD-16324-00 - CLUTCH DISC NEAR THE OUTER PRESSURE PLATE
      B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
      Total Friction Disc (16321) - 6pcs
      Total Thin Friction Disc (16331) - 3pcs
      Total Clutch Disc (16325) - 7pcs
      Total Clutch Disc near outer pressure plate (16324) - 1pc
      TOTAL STACK thickness
      42.7 TO 43.5mm
      1.68" - 1.71"
      New Gasket - 1RC-15461-00
      New Clutch Cable hose - 2PP-26335-02
      Kindly correct any part number that is wrong and quantity. Thanks

    • @betamaxtuned
      @betamaxtuned 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blurglide u mean spring perch is opposite installed? And do u have to remove clutch basket and grind back of it kist like on fz09?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betamaxtuned Part 16383, seen at 3:35 in this video. You have to remove the clutch basket, but no grinding is necessary.

  • @joem5639
    @joem5639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Thanks for posting. I just purchased a 2015 fj-09 with 2,800 miles on it. It rides like new so I won’t need to upgrade the clutch but I will replace the clutch cable for sure. Just learned that my bike’s VIN falls within the recall for the shift cam segment stopper. Is your bike affected and if so what did you do about it?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not familiar with that recall. Please share!

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  ปีที่แล้ว

      Also...the slipper clutch is REALLY nice unless you're mostly riding on the highway.

    • @joem5639
      @joem5639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blurglideYes it is! I was downshifting aggressively and noticed rear wheel hop.

  • @unicycle52
    @unicycle52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 17:30 in the video, the action of the lever and comments are WRONG. The clutch cable will have no tension on it and the clutch won't release if the actuator arm moves that freely. When the cover is installed correctly, the resistance on that actuator arm should be more than you can move with your thumb. (Just like when you removed the cable to start the job. Very stiff.) What you are showing is just the action of the small return spring on the cover. Great effort on the video, but this error should be edited.

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah- I had to go fix that. The little geared bar (a rack) that pulls on the clutch wasn't properly engaged

  • @jj1607jj
    @jj1607jj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lighter Springs x 3
    B90-16173-00
    Adsorber Pads x 3
    1TD-16178-00
    Bolts x 3
    2CR-16337-00
    REAR PRESSURE PLATE
    B90-16352-00
    NUT
    90179-20010
    CLUTCH BOSS
    B90-16321-00
    PRESSURE PLATE
    B90-16350-00
    SLIPPER CLUTCH PACK (IN ORDER OF INSTALL)
    1TD-16384-00 - PLATE SEAT X 1
    1TD-16383-00 - SPRING CUSHION X 1
    B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    5TA-16321-00 - FRICTION DISC
    5VY-16325-00 - CLUTCH DISC
    B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
    1TD-16324-00 - CLUTCH DISC NEAR THE OUTER PRESSURE PLATE
    B90-16331-00 - THIN FRICTION DISC
    Total Friction Disc (16321) - 6pcs
    Total Thin Friction Disc (16331) - 3pcs
    Total Clutch Disc (16325) - 7pcs
    Total Clutch Disc near outer pressure plate (16324) - 1pc
    TOTAL STACK thickness
    42.7 TO 43.5mm
    1.68" - 1.71"
    New Gasket - 1RC-15461-00
    New Clutch Cable hose - 2PP-26335-02
    Kindly correct any part number that is wrong and quantity. Thanks

    • @denberholfule4551
      @denberholfule4551 ปีที่แล้ว

      clutch boss is b90-16371-00. there is no part number that is b90-16321-00

  • @raidid7607
    @raidid7607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Luck man !

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did this 6 months ago. Just rode it today. It's working fine.

  • @plllot9713
    @plllot9713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where did you source the parts? when I try looking them up online here in Europe, only the clutch boss on its own costs 300 bucks xD thanks for the guide. if I can source the kit for around 300 dollars I'm definitely going for it!

  • @whocarescameraj1809
    @whocarescameraj1809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    careful on those cheap engine guards, I have the same ones. left side had the bolt break off in the engine while I was riding..

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit- thanks! If I still have my OEM bolts maybe I'll put -em back.

  • @desertrider325
    @desertrider325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah. Thanks !

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome. Thanks for watching. That spring cushion goes on the other way from how I showed in the video

  • @brodybud
    @brodybud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy freaking locktite my man wow

  • @oportuguesmarco9192
    @oportuguesmarco9192 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have all the references for the dfriction disk and the clutch plates please?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s in the video. If you’d like to write them all down though id be happy to put them in the description

  • @daicol
    @daicol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Vid, thanks for sharing! I'm not brave enough to try this upgrade but was looking for tips on the clutch setup. My MT09 2015 is hard on the hand was going to have a check inside. Looks like my rod is not aligned (dot and arrow). Should be turned in more for sure. What problems do u think that could cause short and long term? Cheers

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You basically wouldn't get a consistent amount of lever motion per unit of cable throw. If it's misaligned though, someone has probably messed with your clutch

    • @daicol
      @daicol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blurglide I think I will open it tomorrow and try and align it. Will check the disks and set the spring nut torques too. I bought the bike last october and the more I look at it the more I find dodgy work! Could be something related to the Cam tensioner recall that Yamaha did last year? I guess I can open the clutch cover without draining any oil? Do you think I should change the gasket just for doing the work above? Will probably find some suprises inside! Thanks. I was so jealous when you moved your clutch with 2 fingers at the clutch side!

  • @tonydoms4955
    @tonydoms4955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2015 MT-09 Tracer, the clutch works fine, except it is very heavy to actuate, have you found yours any lighter since undertaking the upgrade?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes- the assist clutch has much lighter springs because the clamping force comes more from the ramps than from spring pressure alone. I'd say lever effort is less than half of the old clutch. I have excellent grip strength, but the is much easier even for me in stop and go traffic

  • @keeno86
    @keeno86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video. I assume no more slippage? Did you buy the PartsShark bundle?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's working great. Nevertheless, I flipped that spring cushion around yesterday, just to be safe, and kind of damaged the gasket again trying to get the pull rod lined up with the housing, so I ordered a new one. I got the parts shark XSR900 bundle, but since my old clutch was slipping I replaced all of the friction disks that are to be reused in the upgrade, too. Everything was new.

    • @keeno86
      @keeno86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blurglide yeah the pull rod alignment is easily the most frustrating part of the whole job. Did you do any research into aftermarket plate stacks? Ive totally burned mine up after about 20k miles, and I'm torn wether I should go the slipper route or just get a new stack and keep the stock hub. Did you notice a difference between the old and new cable?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keeno86 I did not! How'd they burn up so quick? The problem with mine was they always seemed to drag, even with the clutch fully engaged, it'd really *thunk* into gear and want to creep forward. I kept reducing play until that went away, but I wasn't getting full engagement at that point, which is what caused the clutch to prematurely wear out in the first place.

    • @keeno86
      @keeno86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blurglide that's the same feeling I've had. I think that in combination with track time and (bad) wheelies is what killed it. Would you recommend the slipper? Big difference in shifting? I am mostly considering it for the fact that itd probably prevent premature clutch wear again

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keeno86 Absolutely. HUGE difference in smoothness, even if you don't nail the rev matching. It feels like a new bike. Effort is maybe 1/3 as much so much better in stop and go. I'm sure clamping force is much greater under load, too. You can feel the ramps....the last little bit of takeup is more abrupt and positive. As long as you're in there spend the extra $220 for the slipper/assist upgrade. For shifter feel though...Rotella T6. Wow.

  • @desertrider325
    @desertrider325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever have to remove the oil pump drive sprocket as mentioned in the manual? I don’t understand why Yamaha wants that removed before pulling the clutch apart.

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything worked fine the way I did it in the video, except that washer spring was backwards. That didn't seem to make a difference but I flipped it around anyway. Also, in the video, the little pull rack wasn't engaged to the clutch stack, so the lever pull won't be THAT light.

    • @desertrider325
      @desertrider325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you leave it disengaged on purpose? And also what time stamp does it show that part and how do you engage it? Did you leave it Disengaged?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@desertrider325 You mean the little pull rack? No...I went back and fixed it after I stopped filming. Everything in the video is fine except how light the lever action is...it just takes a little trial in error to get the little rack in the center of the clutch to engage properly when you put the cover plate back on.

    • @desertrider325
      @desertrider325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever swap the cover for the one with the dampener? 5:35 in he shows it and explains it. th-cam.com/video/z-Jd3ITZJDo/w-d-xo.html

  • @ssalo27
    @ssalo27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. What windshield you using?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a V-stream plus. Makes it more useable year-round, but I still get enough buffeting on the top of my helmet to make things blurry at high speed. Also, the curves focus sunlight and as mildly melted my instrument cluster

  • @jessigv2006
    @jessigv2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saludos, Podrían compartir el link donde hacer la compra del sistema.

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used partshark.com

  • @DLehrke
    @DLehrke 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have a 2014 fz-09... can I follow all the same parts and do this?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it should all be the same. FJ-09 is just the touring version of the FZ-09. Same bike with more range and comforts (and consequently, weight)

  • @Impervium1090
    @Impervium1090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, I’ve followed everything, and now I got the case cover back on with the arrow lined up with the dot, but when I put the arm back on the clutch cable it doesn’t seem to want to spring it back into place. The spring is attached correctly to the arm. Any ideas?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the little geared rack that actually pulls on the outer pressure plate is not in properly. It probably got installed a bit crooked. In the video, when I can actuate the clutch down by the engine with one finger and comment on how much easier it is...that's what was happening. Take the cover plate back off and try again. Also make sure the little return spring on the external lever is put back, too.

    • @Impervium1090
      @Impervium1090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      blurglide by “geared rack” you mean the thing that goes into the little hole of the cover plate and lines up with the teeth of the rod, right?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bret Halleran correct. A gear that’s been flattened out to a line is called a rack

    • @Impervium1090
      @Impervium1090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      blurglide just pulled it back apart and it was installed fine. The problem with that piece is that it’s a magnet on the end, and I’m not sure if it’s just mine, but it’s a pretty weak magnet. So one little touch to it and it falls out of place super easily. Very frustrating and difficult to get the case cover back on. I wish the magnet was stronger, I wonder if ordering a new one will be stronger

  • @brodybud
    @brodybud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    put an impact on mine without a clutch tool come it come off

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow- nice tip! You didn't have to hold the basket at all? Did you get it smoking hot? I only had a 1/4" impact at the time, but have subsequently bought a 1/2".

  • @malcolm9287
    @malcolm9287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many miles on that original clutch?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only like 12,000. It was misadjusted when I bought it.

  • @1600gtl
    @1600gtl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part list pls. Thank you

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I go through every part by number in the video

    • @1600gtl
      @1600gtl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blurglide Ok. I suspect that I might have missed some pieces. I inspired your video and did some research and reached the whole list at www.yamaha-motor.eu/kv/kv/service-maintenance/parts-catalogue/ Thank you

  • @Nine_883
    @Nine_883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy you really know you’re nuts and bolts. 🤣

  • @TheBingo1951
    @TheBingo1951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    troppo gioco ha la levetta della frizione sul carter ,lascia perdere !!!

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sì, il pignone non stava innestando la cremagliera in quella ripresa, quindi ho dovuto rifarlo