They must have listened.. My MPR 6.5 creedmoor will reset the trigger in April 2022, Even if I try to force a fail with pressure. You had me worried for a second,Thank you.
I purchased a MPR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Here is a list of the problems that I encountered. The muzzle break was mis-timed so it was cockeyed on the barrel. The rail is out of mil specs so only certain types of scope rings will fit. Vortex precision rings when mounted and torqued to spec had wobble in them. Night force rings fit tightly. At first I thought the rings were bad but I tried them on five other rails and they worked perfectly.I had to bed the rail because it was off enough to were it flexed the rail too much when screwed all of the way down. This could lead to unnecessary pressures placed on the scope of you don’t lap your scope rings, which can lead to tracking issues. Their customer services was very good. And the gun does shoot a .5” 5 shot group at 100 yds. I do love the gun though, I just wished these issue didn’t happen with my gun.
I’m getting a .338 in two months and was heavily eyeing this or the savage 110 elite, I want this more bcuz of the lighter weight but the comments have me concerned, glad to know it’s seems to be working fine tho
My question is how did they allow a 2500 $ gun out the factory this way, Someone failed at their job in the Quality Control dept, how annoying. Sending it, waiting to recieve it after spending that kind of money. Youre a man of patience
So one of the primary functions of this $2,000+ rifle doesn't work and that is supposed to be okay by the manufacturer? What was the turn around time for this gunsmithing?
I want one of these so bad! On paper it nails all my requirements. It does seem like CA has QC issues though! I've also heard CA customer service isn't the best.
Great information and so very well explained. Man that answers lots of questions I have regarding my Christensen ELR in 338 and why it won’t extract most of the cases (factory ammo)
Thank you for this update! I purchased a MPR in 338 Lapua, issues I have with mine is: the handguard countersink holes being over countersink on one side and under countersink on the other. Bottom 4 look good. Fitting of handguard to chassis looks hand done and not square (gap), and originally the handguard was not centered, however when loosening the screws and re tightening them the handguard would be centered enough to not notice visually an offset. Loose stock when in the locked position (not folded) Pitted barrel Bolt timing (sticky bolt with factory GMM 250 and 300 grain about 80% of the time) Sharp bolt knob Super heavy trigger (personal opinion) Bolt timing is horrible and after I sent pictures in to Christiensen of the pitting they told me it will smooth out over time. (I took offense to this because pitts don't smooth out, they will get worse, in addition the barrel copper fouls like none other. After cleaning copper you can see copper spots, then when you get the rest out you can see the pitts). And I haven't seen this thing shoot sub moa as of yet. I've invested half of a new barrel ($500 80 rounds) just to see if it will smooth out, 338 lapua is not cheap and pitting of any kind from a new barrel is unsat!
I am sorry to hear that. I sure hope mine shoots sub moa or I will be one unhappy customer. I will say that I never strip copper from the bore of my rifles. I have found with every rifle I have owned they shoot better fouled. I will clean out the carbon build up every 150 rounds or so but I leave the copper.
just got an MPR in 6.5 SPC, there is little to no visible movement backwards of the bolt when I cycle the action. Maybe a couple thousandths tops. It' really doesn't move. I'll shoot and test and see if I get any issues for sticking cases when I load.
Who in Alaska do you recommend fixing your rifle? I have a 6.5PRC shooting 3in groups. I’m in anchorage and just want to take it somewhere to have it repaired.
The only fair comparison would be to other Remington 700 clones or a Remington 700. The other rifle comparisons are irrelevant. Designs are different and different designs have more or less primary extraction etc.
Those defects are a clear indicator or poor craftsmanship. Even thought they are somewhat minor, they should not be sipping rifles in that condition for what they cost. I was just about to buy one of these but I'll pass. Thanks for the informative video.
Hello...thanks for the info. I have a chance to buy one of these in 300 win mag, would you buy this or a Savage 10/110 Elite Precision 300 Win? Which one do you think would be more accurate?
Is that for a new MPR or a used one? All steel barrel on the MPR or carbon fiber? They would both make excellent rifles. And they should both be sub moa. They are both made by reputable companies that stand behind their products. The MPR will be a much lighter rifle. Thats a double edge sword though. Lighter weight is nicer to carry but usually less stable while shooting. Weight increases stability while shooting. But sucks if you want to hunt with it. Will this be a range rifle only? Are you planning on hunting with it? If you are going to be hiking with it I would get the MPR. If you want to shoot unsupported I would get the MPR. If it's range only off a bench or bipod save the money and buy a Savage 110/100 elite. Another option and I cannot believe I am saying this is a Remington magpul enhanced in 300 win mag. I found one on gun deals the other day for $630 or so and decided to risk it. It is a superb rifle. Ceracoat finish instead of the crappy finish Remington usually uses. Oversized bolt handle, decent stock, threaded barrel, and 5r rifling. I have had some bad experiences with model 700s not having scope base holes drilled straight and bolts being missed timed. This rifle is the best sample of a model 700 I have seen in 15 years. Just bed the recoil lug area with some devcon and you are going to have a very accurate rifle. Just giving you ideas and some things to consider. I hope this helps.
@@TheFullNeilson Hello and thanks for the response. I know there's some real jack-wagons on YT ruffing you up about stuff. Sometimes I'm the one doing that...LOL. But there's a lot of people anxious to see if you got the bugs worked out of this thing. Keep up the good work and get your third video up so we can all take a deep breath. Keep posting keep spreading good information. Don't let the jack-wagons get to you...if you can help it...easier said than done sometimes. PS - its brand new in the box for the price I mentioned and it's all CF so I thought man...that's hard to pass up....right?
@@peaceprayer595 Yeah that is hard to pass up. If the bolt is timed properly and you need a great long range hunting rifle I would jump on that. It really just depends on what you want to do with it. I will try and get some videos made this summer on both those rifles. Have a nice day.
If factory ammo is sticking too the bolt is miss timed or their is a problem with the chamber of your rifle. Send it in and let them look at it and fix it.
Great and educational video. Hopefully it's enough to make it work. It sure is disappointing though when you spend the money for a semi custom and they can't get the basic mechanics right. I'm not much of a rifle guy but I sure would be upset if I got a poorly fit Wilson combat 1911😂. At those price points you aren't just paying for something that will work but your paying for something you can be proud of and that showcases mechanical beauty. At least I do. That rifle might shoot well enough but I doubt you'll ever be truly happy with it. In that sense and in that market it's a fail no matter what size groups it shoots. Disappointing, as I like the rifle, I am looking for something exactly like that. Heavy enough to soak up recoil but still portable. I love the way yours looks but I'm afraid it's a hard pass for me. I was actually waiting to see what happened with yours. Maybe bergara, seekins... who knows. Maybe I'll avoid the 700 platform all together given what I learned here. I'll never buy another bolt action without checking primary extraction... when gun shops complain I'll just blame you 😂.
If there is enough primary extraction to cycle the rifle easily and smoothly I will be happy with it the way it is. If there's not enough not I will talk to Christensen Arms or send my bolt off to accutig and get it fixed. Then I will be happy. If you price out what it would cost to build a similar custom rifle then I think you will understand why I am willing to put up with more than what others might tolerate. Good luck checking bolt timing in a gun shop 99 percent of the people who work their will think you are crazy because they do not know what it is. Avery Neilson
Hey I am sorry but I went to reply to one of your other comments and I accidently removed it. I am a big fan of masterpiece arms chassis. I have used a variety of other chassis and they are the most comfortable to me. They make a hybrid and ba lite chassis which is what I would use if I were building my own rig and trying to keep the weight reasonable. I also like the KRG bravo chassis. They are pretty reasonable in price and also pretty light. The barrel you throw on your rifle will be what affect the balance and weight more than just about anything. I hope this helps good luck. Avery Neilson
@@TheFullNeilson have you heard of JTAC? I’m looking into the Sig Cross, MPR, and the JTaC(Howa 1500 action), all in 6.5 Cm. Worried about quality on the Mpr but I love the lightweight design, folding stock, etc. the JTac is pretty sweet too but just not much feedback on the inter webs.
Sir, would you explain it to us what is the issues with your 300 win mag after Christensen Arms fixed your riffle because i just bought CA MPR 300 win mag too Really appreciate it
So after sending in the rifle the first time the rifle would not shoot even close to sub moa. It averaged groups of 2-3 inches depending on ammo. The best group I got was 1.5 inches. So I sent it back a second time. They verified my findings and replaced the barrel, action, and bolt. Now it shoots 1/2-3/4 moa. I like the rifle design and now that they have delivered on the quality that should be their from the factory I am happy with both rifles. I do think they did right by me. My only reservation is that the initial quality control of what they are sending out the door seems to be all over the place. Hope this answers your question. Have a nice day.
Thank you so muuucch for your answer, because i just bought this rifle and on the way ship to FFL and i love the design of CA MPR and this will add my collection
Was sold on this rifle until watching your two videos. Can anyone verify this issue with their own MPR or has anyone checked MPR's in stores to see if this is an issue model wide? When's your third video coming out? Wondering if you'd still recommend the rifle with the given issue?
I have a second one of these rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor which is excellent quality. If you are buying it sight unseen you are going to be taking a gamble. I do not have any plans to shoot a 3rd video anytime soon. TH-cam has killed off any incentive I might have had. I am now spending what free time I have with my family and personal hobbies. I have been too busy fishing to do much shooting so far this summer. If anything changes I will post a video. Have a nice day. Avery Neilson
I have not heard of a single issue with the short action MPR rifles. I would not recommend any of the long action MPR rifles right now. My 300 win mag is a mess. I will be making a follow up video on it at a later date. If weight is a big factor purchase an MPR. If weight is a none issue buy a Tikka.
Well it really depends on what you are going to do with it. This is a very nitch rifle. If I wanted the best prs rifle those you named would all be a much better choice. This rifle represents to me the ultimate long range field rifle. Mine weighs 10.5-11 pounds with a scope. Most PRS rifles weigh 16 to 25 pounds or so. Great for games bad for hunting. Unless animals or vehicles are packing the weight for you carrying a heavy rifle is no fun. The balance of the rifle is also superb if you need to shoot free hand. This is required at times in the field. Thanks for your comment you are not wrong. Just helping you understand the thought process. Ask yourself what you want to do with your rifle. Then buy or build the right tool for the job. Have a nice day.
Sir, I have 'fat finger dyslexia'. I cannot finger text. You need a pointer. Your fat finger pointer gives the viewer a guess factor to what you're trying to get across. Try using a pencil, or other pointed object like a long toothpick. Your otherwise excellent explanation would go a lot further. Thanks
I review alot of rifles which means I have alot more rifles than optics. My two main scopes are about $2500 dollars each. They are on qd mounts so I can easily swap them from rifle to rifle. I could not afford to buy one of these for every rifle I own. Anyway thought I would help you learn something new today so you would know what you are talking about. Have a nice day.
They must have listened.. My MPR 6.5 creedmoor will reset the trigger in April 2022, Even if I try to force a fail with pressure. You had me worried for a second,Thank you.
Great review. Thank you for teaching me about the bolt timing and trigger reset. No I am going to go try it on two of my Christensen arms rifles....
I purchased a MPR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Here is a list of the problems that I encountered. The muzzle break was mis-timed so it was cockeyed on the barrel. The rail is out of mil specs so only certain types of scope rings will fit. Vortex precision rings when mounted and torqued to spec had wobble in them. Night force rings fit tightly. At first I thought the rings were bad but I tried them on five other rails and they worked perfectly.I had to bed the rail because it was off enough to were it flexed the rail too much when screwed all of the way down. This could lead to unnecessary pressures placed on the scope of you don’t lap your scope rings, which can lead to tracking issues. Their customer services was very good. And the gun does shoot a .5” 5 shot group at 100 yds. I do love the gun though, I just wished these issue didn’t happen with my gun.
.338 mpr here, purchased in July 21. None of these problems with my rifle. Must have sorted them out.
Im hoping so I just picked up a 300 prc before watching this video but it could have been gen 1 problems hopefully sorted out
I’m getting a .338 in two months and was heavily eyeing this or the savage 110 elite, I want this more bcuz of the lighter weight but the comments have me concerned, glad to know it’s seems to be working fine tho
Thanks for all the information, great video. I will check all future bolt rifles in store before purchase, including The mpr I am going to purchase.
Have you shot this rifle yet? Does it need to go back to Christiansen? Please let us all know....3rd video please😁
My question is how did they allow a 2500 $ gun out the factory this way, Someone failed at their job in the Quality Control dept, how annoying. Sending it, waiting to recieve it after spending that kind of money. Youre a man of patience
Nice to hear they fixed the issues. However I don't plan on buying a gun with any potential issues, they should get it right the first time.
So one of the primary functions of this $2,000+ rifle doesn't work and that is supposed to be okay by the manufacturer?
What was the turn around time for this gunsmithing?
After 2000 rounds with my MPR, zero issues with extraction
Same here, he sounds like a mumbling bumbling idiot.
Just bought a 338 mpr and noticed that mine has about
Very detailed review. Thanks
I want one of these so bad! On paper it nails all my requirements. It does seem like CA has QC issues though! I've also heard CA customer service isn't the best.
I’m actually having that issue with extracting on a recent purchase for one of these. Good to know
Saved me $2300. Thank you
Great information and so very well explained. Man that answers lots of questions I have regarding my Christensen ELR in 338 and why it won’t extract most of the cases (factory ammo)
How about a shooting evaluation, over 40 mins of video on the same rifle without a shot fired...
Thank you for this update!
I purchased a MPR in 338 Lapua,
issues I have with mine is:
the handguard countersink holes being over countersink on one side and under countersink on the other. Bottom 4 look good.
Fitting of handguard to chassis looks hand done and not square (gap), and originally the handguard was not centered, however when loosening the screws and re tightening them the handguard would be centered enough to not notice visually an offset.
Loose stock when in the locked position (not folded)
Pitted barrel
Bolt timing (sticky bolt with factory GMM 250 and 300 grain about 80% of the time)
Sharp bolt knob
Super heavy trigger (personal opinion)
Bolt timing is horrible and after I sent pictures in to Christiensen of the pitting they told me it will smooth out over time. (I took offense to this because pitts don't smooth out, they will get worse, in addition the barrel copper fouls like none other. After cleaning copper you can see copper spots, then when you get the rest out you can see the pitts). And I haven't seen this thing shoot sub moa as of yet.
I've invested half of a new barrel ($500 80 rounds) just to see if it will smooth out, 338 lapua is not cheap and pitting of any kind from a new barrel is unsat!
I am sorry to hear that. I sure hope mine shoots sub moa or I will be one unhappy customer. I will say that I never strip copper from the bore of my rifles. I have found with every rifle I have owned they shoot better fouled. I will clean out the carbon build up every 150 rounds or so but I leave the copper.
just got an MPR in 6.5 SPC, there is little to no visible movement backwards of the bolt when I cycle the action. Maybe a couple thousandths tops. It' really doesn't move. I'll shoot and test and see if I get any issues for sticking cases when I load.
I just checked my ridgerunner it's perfect! You had me sweating bullets LOL.
How's the rifle doing now that you're had it back awhile? How's shot recovery and spotting impacts working out with such a lightweight magnum?
Who in Alaska do you recommend fixing your rifle? I have a 6.5PRC shooting 3in groups. I’m in anchorage and just want to take it somewhere to have it repaired.
For that kind of issue it needs to go back the Christensen arms.
The only fair comparison would be to other Remington 700 clones or a Remington 700. The other rifle comparisons are irrelevant. Designs are different and different designs have more or less primary extraction etc.
Great video! How has the gun been performing since the repairs?
Poorly its about to go back for a second time. The 6.5 MPR I have is great. The 300 win mag is a mess. Sorry to get back to you so late.
I have had a new ruger 22 rifle with a crooked handguard. They fixed it no problem. All those problems is simply sloppy quality control
Those defects are a clear indicator or poor craftsmanship. Even thought they are somewhat minor, they should not be sipping rifles in that condition for what they cost. I was just about to buy one of these but I'll pass. Thanks for the informative video.
Hello...thanks for the info. I have a chance to buy one of these in 300 win mag, would you buy this or a Savage 10/110 Elite Precision 300 Win? Which one do you think would be more accurate?
Is that for a new MPR or a used one? All steel barrel on the MPR or carbon fiber? They would both make excellent rifles. And they should both be sub moa. They are both made by reputable companies that stand behind their products. The MPR will be a much lighter rifle. Thats a double edge sword though. Lighter weight is nicer to carry but usually less stable while shooting. Weight increases stability while shooting. But sucks if you want to hunt with it. Will this be a range rifle only? Are you planning on hunting with it? If you are going to be hiking with it I would get the MPR. If you want to shoot unsupported I would get the MPR. If it's range only off a bench or bipod save the money and buy a Savage 110/100 elite. Another option and I cannot believe I am saying this is a Remington magpul enhanced in 300 win mag. I found one on gun deals the other day for $630 or so and decided to risk it. It is a superb rifle. Ceracoat finish instead of the crappy finish Remington usually uses. Oversized bolt handle, decent stock, threaded barrel, and 5r rifling. I have had some bad experiences with model 700s not having scope base holes drilled straight and bolts being missed timed. This rifle is the best sample of a model 700 I have seen in 15 years. Just bed the recoil lug area with some devcon and you are going to have a very accurate rifle. Just giving you ideas and some things to consider. I hope this helps.
@@TheFullNeilson Hello and thanks for the response. I know there's some real jack-wagons on YT ruffing you up about stuff. Sometimes I'm the one doing that...LOL. But there's a lot of people anxious to see if you got the bugs worked out of this thing. Keep up the good work and get your third video up so we can all take a deep breath. Keep posting keep spreading good information. Don't let the jack-wagons get to you...if you can help it...easier said than done sometimes. PS - its brand new in the box for the price I mentioned and it's all CF so I thought man...that's hard to pass up....right?
@@peaceprayer595 Yeah that is hard to pass up. If the bolt is timed properly and you need a great long range hunting rifle I would jump on that. It really just depends on what you want to do with it. I will try and get some videos made this summer on both those rifles. Have a nice day.
I’m having this problem with my 6.5 prc you have to force the bolt up the last 1/8” to get it to unlock
Factory ammo or reloads?
@@TheFullNeilson both factory 143’s and reloaded 156’s they say it’s a Corbin ring doing it
If factory ammo is sticking too the bolt is miss timed or their is a problem with the chamber of your rifle. Send it in and let them look at it and fix it.
Have they fixed your 300 yet ?
Great and educational video. Hopefully it's enough to make it work. It sure is disappointing though when you spend the money for a semi custom and they can't get the basic mechanics right. I'm not much of a rifle guy but I sure would be upset if I got a poorly fit Wilson combat 1911😂. At those price points you aren't just paying for something that will work but your paying for something you can be proud of and that showcases mechanical beauty. At least I do. That rifle might shoot well enough but I doubt you'll ever be truly happy with it. In that sense and in that market it's a fail no matter what size groups it shoots. Disappointing, as I like the rifle, I am looking for something exactly like that. Heavy enough to soak up recoil but still portable. I love the way yours looks but I'm afraid it's a hard pass for me. I was actually waiting to see what happened with yours. Maybe bergara, seekins... who knows. Maybe I'll avoid the 700 platform all together given what I learned here. I'll never buy another bolt action without checking primary extraction... when gun shops complain I'll just blame you 😂.
If there is enough primary extraction to cycle the rifle easily and smoothly I will be happy with it the way it is. If there's not enough not I will talk to Christensen Arms or send my bolt off to accutig and get it fixed. Then I will be happy. If you price out what it would cost to build a similar custom rifle then I think you will understand why I am willing to put up with more than what others might tolerate. Good luck checking bolt timing in a gun shop 99 percent of the people who work their will think you are crazy because they do not know what it is. Avery Neilson
Has the "snow" melted yet?
What light weight adjustable chassis would you suggest I look at if I decide to build my own?
Hey I am sorry but I went to reply to one of your other comments and I accidently removed it. I am a big fan of masterpiece arms chassis. I have used a variety of other chassis and they are the most comfortable to me. They make a hybrid and ba lite chassis which is what I would use if I were building my own rig and trying to keep the weight reasonable. I also like the KRG bravo chassis. They are pretty reasonable in price and also pretty light. The barrel you throw on your rifle will be what affect the balance and weight more than just about anything. I hope this helps good luck. Avery Neilson
@@TheFullNeilson have you heard of JTAC? I’m looking into the Sig Cross, MPR, and the JTaC(Howa 1500 action), all in 6.5 Cm. Worried about quality on the Mpr but I love the lightweight design, folding stock, etc. the JTac is pretty sweet too but just not much feedback on the inter webs.
Sir, would you explain it to us what is the issues with your 300 win mag after Christensen Arms fixed your riffle because i just bought CA MPR 300 win mag too
Really appreciate it
So after sending in the rifle the first time the rifle would not shoot even close to sub moa. It averaged groups of 2-3 inches depending on ammo. The best group I got was 1.5 inches. So I sent it back a second time. They verified my findings and replaced the barrel, action, and bolt. Now it shoots 1/2-3/4 moa. I like the rifle design and now that they have delivered on the quality that should be their from the factory I am happy with both rifles. I do think they did right by me. My only reservation is that the initial quality control of what they are sending out the door seems to be all over the place. Hope this answers your question. Have a nice day.
Thank you so muuucch for your answer, because i just bought this rifle and on the way ship to FFL and i love the design of CA MPR and this will add my collection
Who in Alaska do you recommend for bolt timing ? Thanks for your review
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@@TheFullNeilson Thanks. I live here in Alaska so good information to have .
Any updates?
The 6.5 rifle has been great from day one. The 300 went back 2 times with them replacing nearly everything before it would shoot sub moa.
Was sold on this rifle until watching your two videos. Can anyone verify this issue with their own MPR or has anyone checked MPR's in stores to see if this is an issue model wide?
When's your third video coming out?
Wondering if you'd still recommend the rifle with the given issue?
I have a second one of these rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor which is excellent quality. If you are buying it sight unseen you are going to be taking a gamble. I do not have any plans to shoot a 3rd video anytime soon. TH-cam has killed off any incentive I might have had. I am now spending what free time I have with my family and personal hobbies. I have been too busy fishing to do much shooting so far this summer. If anything changes I will post a video. Have a nice day. Avery Neilson
Have you fired it yet? I’m interested in buying one.
Yes I have. I have 2 of them. The 6.5 Creedmoor ran great the 300 win mag has issues.
Is it a Rem 700 clone or an actual Rem?
Clone
One smart dude, I wish you could’ve been my English Teacher. In conclusion, you would say it is a good rifle or go buy a Tikka ?
I have not heard of a single issue with the short action MPR rifles. I would not recommend any of the long action MPR rifles right now. My 300 win mag is a mess. I will be making a follow up video on it at a later date. If weight is a big factor purchase an MPR. If weight is a none issue buy a Tikka.
I feel like there are better options for a precision rifle now. John Hancock, Badrock precision, mpa all have 2k rifles based on custom actions.
Well it really depends on what you are going to do with it. This is a very nitch rifle. If I wanted the best prs rifle those you named would all be a much better choice. This rifle represents to me the ultimate long range field rifle. Mine weighs 10.5-11 pounds with a scope. Most PRS rifles weigh 16 to 25 pounds or so. Great for games bad for hunting. Unless animals or vehicles are packing the weight for you carrying a heavy rifle is no fun. The balance of the rifle is also superb if you need to shoot free hand. This is required at times in the field. Thanks for your comment you are not wrong. Just helping you understand the thought process. Ask yourself what you want to do with your rifle. Then buy or build the right tool for the job. Have a nice day.
CA seems to have a very poor quality control. Damn, so many issues on the same gun.. come on
Sir, I have 'fat finger dyslexia'. I cannot finger text. You need a pointer. Your fat finger pointer gives the viewer a guess factor to what you're trying to get across. Try using a pencil, or other pointed object like a long toothpick. Your otherwise excellent explanation would go a lot further. Thanks
I would never trust a guy that pulls out 3 guns and 0 have a scope. Not a shooter
I review alot of rifles which means I have alot more rifles than optics. My two main scopes are about $2500 dollars each. They are on qd mounts so I can easily swap them from rifle to rifle. I could not afford to buy one of these for every rifle I own. Anyway thought I would help you learn something new today so you would know what you are talking about. Have a nice day.