Refurbing a system means, You check the board with a volt meter, You check the caps, conections. You clean and reassemble and replace any fans, grease and thermal paste ect.
I saw that trick before, if a company gets into drama they might do the job for 3-4 weeks, until the drama goes away and after that do the same old thing they always did
Can someone name one business that does all that? Because I haven't been able to find one that does all that. In fact I've called 50+ retro video game stores. NOT ONE replaces thermal paste. At most they blow out the consoles, if they even do that. I'll ask for the 100th time in these comments. Can somene give me ONE business that does it? Because I have yet to find one, but apparently according to everyone in the comments, that's what everyone does. But they can't seem to name me one business that does it. I'm not trying to defend DKOldies, I have never, and would never purchase from them because of price alone. I'm just trying to set the record straight with all this bullshit misinformation like every game store does this besides DKOldies. If anything 0.01% of these business go inside and do a real clean up. EDIT: So it seems like no one can name a business that actually refurbishes consoles with thermal paste, or are not reading what I'm actually asking. Just what should/shouldn't be done in the business isn't what I'm asking. I agree with it and am not fighting against. But when it comes to "refurbished" and thermal paste. That is not a common thing. That is my argument. 2nd EDIT: So no business refurbishes their consoles at all is what I'm reading.
The only way would be to disassemble completely and soak them all in isoprophyl and scrub with a toothbrush for hours on end. It simply wouldn’t be feasible.
@@Ohbrotherthisguystinks98 there is cleaned and spotless, two different things. Getting it immaculately clean would be impossible without tons of time. These companies should be at least cleaning them inside though.
As a matter of fact, I wondered if anybody had scraped enough crud from inside their game consoles from DKOldies to make the own little Gilligan's island yet 🏝?
I personally wouldnt mind a documentary on the beginning of dk oldies to where we are now. I'm curious if the prices increased due to their social media success because I didnt hear of them until a year ago.
@@jrob0021 It's bad on youtube as well. I watch a lot of thrifting and reseller videos and whenever someone finds some decent games at a thrift store there are always people in the comments claiming that the video is fake because they never find anything like that at their local thrift stores. Sometimes I love the internet, but the rest of the time I really hate it.
DKOdies is everywhere. I can't escape them. I've gone past the point of insanity, I am beyond the point of no return, I can't even comprehend anymore. That blonde guy is driving me insane. I am losing my grip on reality.
exactly they are exposing them selfs and making it worse now its basically them saying oops you caught us but we won't admit we did wrong and plz dont stop buying from us .... what they did its called false advertising and people should sue the sht out if them
This is actually turning into like a legitimate huge scandal imo. All of these employees coming out, the videos about drew hassling employees. I'm actually mind blown at this company. Awesome video Jacob! Btw I am actually studying IT and am basically becoming a technician, it wouldn't take more than 20-25 minutes for a GOOD technician to take apart a console and blow it out. These consoles aren't blown out. Case closed.
You’re now part of my routine, I’ll listen to you talk about anything even when DK is dried up just keep ‘em coming bro! EDIT: the reason why is that Jacob is based, just refreshing to hear someone’s opinion about anything random when they have good takes
as an artist you would get the meanest comments thrown at you and they would call it "critique", actually critique a popular business and suddenly you're bullying them. smh
The morale of this story is: About fifteen years ago, I should have invested in used consoles from eBay, built myself a nice stockpile, began refurbishing them PROPERLY, and selling them for 2/3 the price of DirtyKrapOldies (and with OEM controllers).
I think my biggest issue with this entire situation is they have not made a statement to address the situation. They are quietly changing things behind the scenes hoping people forget.
This video just makes me glad I'm not on Facebook. The problem that these people don't seem to understand is that he's buying REFURBISHED consoles, not used ones. If it was listed as just used, I could understand if the inside is dusty because they wouldn't be expected to even open the console, but if they claim to refurbish it the least you can expect it for it to be cleaned thoroughly, inside and out.
It would of been so much easier if items are listed as used then everything that is mentioned wouldn't be a issue. Refurbished and not delivering is the issue some people don't get it
I agree with you Jacob. I have refurbished Joycons, Switch consoles, Gameboy Advance, and DS consoles I’ve always torn it apart and cleaned all the part with Alcohol and scrubbed them. I’ve also reshelled the items I sold. Everything looked brand new and was fully functional that I sold. The amount DK Oldies charges is 2X or 2.5X from what eBay sellers charge. It’s pretty insane the margins they’re making and not refurbishing consoles.
Ever since I started to learn how to tear down used systems I bought off like from a pawnshop. I feel everyone could learn what I'd used to refurbish looks different if they take thier time. I love tear down videos. Like if I have a bad part I can just replace it myself. Like my original ps2 need a new disk tray.
Exactly! We watch your video to see wat kind of experience you have with each company. Putting ourselves in your shoes to see what our best option is for ordering the consoles of our dreams. Keep posting!🔥🤙🏽
There's always going to be haters on the internet unfortunately. Anyone who knows anything about refurbishments will agree what DKOldies is doing is a scam. Keep up the great videos brother!
Hey Jacob, I know everyone has been concentrated on calling out DK Oldies as a scammer, but there are other people also getting ripped off. This guy named Dennis Collects literally films himself screwing other people over for $1000's in retro video game trades. I made a video on this guy, and he actually replied to it saying that because they approach him it's not his fault for giving them insanely low prices. Anyways, just thought I'd bring this up since it hits close to home for me. Cheers, Max
Yah luckily, I never fall for overpriced things. Although, I have gotten scammed for underpriced things though. To good to be true nonsense. But I am pretty good at both. But yah with dkoldies, you just are not getting a good deal.
i like how I ordered a pink wii remote with wii motion plus inside just before youtube recommended your dkoldies scam videos! now I hope not to get a plastic shard covered in bubble wrap!🤣🤣🤣 EDIT: I bought it from DKOldies
" If you order a refurbished console, dont expect it new"? Right so if i order a pepperoni pizza, i shouldnt expect a pepperoni pizza? If you order a green pair of shoes, should i expect a brown pair?
Since when we have to listen and take any advices from strangers on youtube and excepting from us to follow em? Jacob You do what you want to do as video/concept and who doesen't like em dont see em as simple as that , keep up the good work buddie , much love from Greece...
I’m not on Facebook. And according to all those comments, I really don’t wanna be. It blows my mind how bad they are there, and how supportive we all are here, and not just calling him a liar for the sake of arguing.
Jigsore has since deleted all his videos about DK Oldies because his former colleague or someone who works there leaked some private info that wasn't public. So he deleted them to keep his family safe or something along those lines. He's making one final long video.
I made mention of that on a comment thread directly on a dkoldies video this morning. That company is about the biggest dumpster fire trash heap that's ever existed
Imagine buying a used car and they say they cleaned it and detailed it so its sparkly and nice then you get into it and its covered in food stains and smells like fish. Oh but they SAID its been cleaned so it must just be you
Random question, but has he made any comments about the panels being having an almost identical break on both the “New” 360 from Goodwill or the DK Oldies 360 he’s made videos on? It looks like he may have just swapped the top panel onto the Dk Oldies system from the goodwill system.
It makes me wonder how many of those _'enlightened'_ individuals were working for the guy and trying to throw shade for daring to bring their scam to light. As for the changes, they won't last. It's to get the spotlight off their backs so they can return to business as usual.
At my repair shop we detail consoles. Cleaning, spraying, washing, and thermal paste and we charge $65 - $85 for it. Yes it usually takes 30mins to an hour depending on how gunked they are.
If what this guy is saying is true, and some employees were "going rogue" and actually properly cleaning consoles, that would explain why there are some DK defenders out there claiming they got pristine consoles. Turns out the employees doing the right thing helped muddy the waters for management.
Another problem with dkoldies is when you're looking through the games there's a price listed so you click on it and go to buy it and the price changes to a higher amount
Im 💯 support you and your channel bro. You stated all the facts. Love your contents. Respect how u handle and have the level of patience reading through all those negative comments. 👍🏽
Keep up the good work! I made a video highlighting some of the spam comments on youtube that defend DKOldies, but I'm guessing those people from facebook just hear a bit of criticism and had a knee-jerk defensive reaction, put the blinders on and stepped on the gas.
In the same vein if the facebook comments. You had a comment on an earlier dkoldies video that said its a "conflict of interest" that you make these videos when you haven't mentioned your company a single time in these videos.
I did my part. Yesterday or the day before I got someone on FB to admit they were wrong about Jacob R and these videos. So at least some of them aren't too far gone, luckily.
dk oldies sell's a "refurbished" game cube for 200, I go to a local flea market where someone was selling them for 65 with 2 original controllers and they at least tested them there and stated they weren't opened.
"The one that used to be the bad chamber, until the recent refurbishing that is. Of course, we've been calling it the new chamber, but we really should number them. Uh, take them to the refurbished chamber that was once bad" - King Bumi of Omashu when asked about refurbished chamber mean
Does blowing out a console = refurbished?? (no)
Yeah no lmao
No, that doesn’t make it clean and therefore not refurbished
In the words of joey "NO"
does buring your house down keep you warm?
It's DKoldished.
Refurbing a system means, You check the board with a volt meter, You check the caps, conections. You clean and reassemble and replace any fans, grease and thermal paste ect.
exactly ,not a clean with some paper
I saw that trick before, if a company gets into drama they might do the job for 3-4 weeks, until the drama goes away and after that do the same old thing they always did
@@paradoxzee6834won’t work as people on TH-cam will still just check the consoles again and them the drama will start again
😉👌
Can someone name one business that does all that? Because I haven't been able to find one that does all that. In fact I've called 50+ retro video game stores. NOT ONE replaces thermal paste. At most they blow out the consoles, if they even do that. I'll ask for the 100th time in these comments. Can somene give me ONE business that does it? Because I have yet to find one, but apparently according to everyone in the comments, that's what everyone does. But they can't seem to name me one business that does it.
I'm not trying to defend DKOldies, I have never, and would never purchase from them because of price alone. I'm just trying to set the record straight with all this bullshit misinformation like every game store does this besides DKOldies. If anything 0.01% of these business go inside and do a real clean up.
EDIT: So it seems like no one can name a business that actually refurbishes consoles with thermal paste, or are not reading what I'm actually asking. Just what should/shouldn't be done in the business isn't what I'm asking. I agree with it and am not fighting against.
But when it comes to "refurbished" and thermal paste. That is not a common thing. That is my argument.
2nd EDIT: So no business refurbishes their consoles at all is what I'm reading.
"it's near impossible to get every piece of dust out" im sorry how many years have these guys been in business
Its near Impossible if you dont open it up, thats for sure
The only way would be to disassemble completely and soak them all in isoprophyl and scrub with a toothbrush for hours on end. It simply wouldn’t be feasible.
@@jonvitrano8394 how bout not selling a dirty product that says it's clean then 😭
@@silenthill4 what method would you use to clean corrosion and caked on grime/dirt inside of electronics?
@@Ohbrotherthisguystinks98 there is cleaned and spotless, two different things. Getting it immaculately clean would be impossible without tons of time. These companies should be at least cleaning them inside though.
*I like how the face of Joey becomes more cursed in every video*
*Same*
he looks like sid from ice age now lol
He looks like my autistic cousin
Eventually you're going to need a ultra wide screen to see Joey's face completely!
Haha, that was the first thing I noticed. I got a good laugh when this video started.
Maybe DKOldies prices will go down now. Imagine how much cheaper shipping will be without the weight of all that dust inside the consoles
😂
As a matter of fact, I wondered if anybody had scraped enough crud from inside their game consoles from DKOldies to make the own little Gilligan's island yet 🏝?
Keyword (imagine)
Mistake number one : using Facebook
Mistake number two : expecting Facebook users to be rational
100%! I avoid Facebook comments 99% of the time, but every once in a while I’ll go down that rabbit hole 😂
Facebook sounds worse than twitter lol
@@mcchuu4780 oh it 100% is
@@mcchuu4780 Exponentially worse than Twitter. Many people want to turn Twitter into a troll hellscape like Facebook
Oh is TH-cam where the geniuses hang out? Sweet
I swear a Netflix series is coming about DKoldies.
I can imagine making joey a black dude and drew his slave master
I personally wouldnt mind a documentary on the beginning of dk oldies to where we are now. I'm curious if the prices increased due to their social media success because I didnt hear of them until a year ago.
Wouldn’t being interesting enough
@@hueso5071 No Netflix docs are interesting
I’ll let you guys know when the Netflix guys reach out for an interview 😂
Great video. They have also updated their product descriptions to mention ‘replica controllers’ instead of compatible controllers.
Hahahaha wow...
Lol wow, that doesn’t make it much better 😂
They legit just have to say "Compatible 3rd party controller". All DKOldies has to do is say "Used console" and all this controversy would go away.
@@mickeybat5816 true but they know sales would drop by being honest.
@@mickeybat5816 Yah but then they couldn't sell them triple the price of what they actually cost lol.
Ive been on your facebook page and had to help some kids understand what was going on. "Fake for views" is all people say on facebook.
Yeah people on Facebook think everything is faked 😂
@@jrob0021 And yet they fall for fake news about medicine and stuff.
@@jrob0021 It's bad on youtube as well. I watch a lot of thrifting and reseller videos and whenever someone finds some decent games at a thrift store there are always people in the comments claiming that the video is fake because they never find anything like that at their local thrift stores. Sometimes I love the internet, but the rest of the time I really hate it.
@Seth pickups videos never used to be like that
I've been watching pickups videos for over 12 years
It used to be wholesome
DKOdies is everywhere. I can't escape them. I've gone past the point of insanity, I am beyond the point of no return, I can't even comprehend anymore. That blonde guy is driving me insane. I am losing my grip on reality.
lol
Everywhere I go... I always see his face.
That's good maybe it will keep people from buying dirty consoles from them.
Lmaooo joey haunts your dreams to?
@@AfroDyke same
Joey’s starting to creep me out the more you alter his face 😂
LOLOLOLOL
So trueeeeeeeer
😂
Joey is creepy
They wouldn't have changed anything had their problems not been publicized. Thank you for calling them out for future buyers.
exactly they are exposing them selfs and making it worse now its basically them saying oops you caught us but we won't admit we did wrong and plz dont stop buying from us .... what they did its called false advertising and people should sue the sht out if them
This is actually turning into like a legitimate huge scandal imo. All of these employees coming out, the videos about drew hassling employees. I'm actually mind blown at this company. Awesome video Jacob! Btw I am actually studying IT and am basically becoming a technician, it wouldn't take more than 20-25 minutes for a GOOD technician to take apart a console and blow it out. These consoles aren't blown out. Case closed.
You’re now part of my routine, I’ll listen to you talk about anything even when DK is dried up just keep ‘em coming bro!
EDIT: the reason why is that Jacob is based, just refreshing to hear someone’s opinion about anything random when they have good takes
Same here honestly
Thanks bro I really appreciate that 🙏
@@jrob0021 thank you for making these amazing videos man! You are the goat
@@jrob0021 of course man!
@minifigness you must be from Facebook 😂 everyone there thinks my videos are fake
as an artist you would get the meanest comments thrown at you and they would call it "critique", actually critique a popular business and suddenly you're bullying them. smh
He’s since deleted videos on his TH-cam channel because he says a dkoldies employee leaked his personal information.
The morale of this story is:
About fifteen years ago, I should have invested in used consoles from eBay, built myself a nice stockpile, began refurbishing them PROPERLY, and selling them for 2/3 the price of DirtyKrapOldies (and with OEM controllers).
That picture of Joey is getting so cursed
It's so good
I think
It's getting so sexy. God it makes me so wet nya~
Saying "you live in your parents basement" is something someone says when they live in their parents basement
I think my biggest issue with this entire situation is they have not made a statement to address the situation. They are quietly changing things behind the scenes hoping people forget.
Joey's face gets cursed each time when a new video comes out...
thats how he really looks after each transaction.
So what the ex employee is saying is that Dustin isn't dusting their consoles ....eh eh eh get it
I'll leave now
The cursed Joey faces on the screen just keep getting better
People are just ignorant! Keep bringing to light all the bad stuff in the retro games community!! Thanks a lot!!
This video just makes me glad I'm not on Facebook. The problem that these people don't seem to understand is that he's buying REFURBISHED consoles, not used ones. If it was listed as just used, I could understand if the inside is dusty because they wouldn't be expected to even open the console, but if they claim to refurbish it the least you can expect it for it to be cleaned thoroughly, inside and out.
13:48 - 14:25 that alone is all we really need to know about DK Oldies being lazy scum bags. They deserve a lawsuit against them
It would of been so much easier if items are listed as used then everything that is mentioned wouldn't be a issue. Refurbished and not delivering is the issue some people don't get it
"It's refurbished don't expect a new console". What if I sold him a used car that didn't work, could I say it's a used car, don't expect it to work?
DKOldies: “Thanks to you guys, we are now wiping our butts after we crap!”
I agree with you Jacob. I have refurbished Joycons, Switch consoles, Gameboy Advance, and DS consoles I’ve always torn it apart and cleaned all the part with Alcohol and scrubbed them. I’ve also reshelled the items I sold. Everything looked brand new and was fully functional that I sold.
The amount DK Oldies charges is 2X or 2.5X from what eBay sellers charge. It’s pretty insane the margins they’re making and not refurbishing consoles.
Ever since I started to learn how to tear down used systems I bought off like from a pawnshop. I feel everyone could learn what I'd used to refurbish looks different if they take thier time. I love tear down videos. Like if I have a bad part I can just replace it myself. Like my original ps2 need a new disk tray.
Congrats you just described how anyone can learn anything
Exactly! We watch your video to see wat kind of experience you have with each company. Putting ourselves in your shoes to see what our best option is for ordering the consoles of our dreams. Keep posting!🔥🤙🏽
There's always going to be haters on the internet unfortunately. Anyone who knows anything about refurbishments will agree what DKOldies is doing is a scam. Keep up the great videos brother!
The Joey cursed pictures are the cherry on top lol
Hey Jacob,
I know everyone has been concentrated on calling out DK Oldies as a scammer, but there are other people also getting ripped off.
This guy named Dennis Collects literally films himself screwing other people over for $1000's in retro video game trades.
I made a video on this guy, and he actually replied to it saying that because they approach him it's not his fault for giving them insanely low prices.
Anyways, just thought I'd bring this up since it hits close to home for me.
Cheers,
Max
The image of joey in the back went from joey, to side form ice age
These DKOldies videos never get old!
The fact DKOldies even has a "cosmetically flawed" option should really tell you their stuff is overpriced
Yah luckily, I never fall for overpriced things. Although, I have gotten scammed for underpriced things though. To good to be true nonsense.
But I am pretty good at both. But yah with dkoldies, you just are not getting a good deal.
Nice to know they have a room specifically for getting blown out.
i like how I ordered a pink wii remote with wii motion plus inside just before youtube recommended your dkoldies scam videos! now I hope not to get a plastic shard covered in bubble wrap!🤣🤣🤣
EDIT: I bought it from DKOldies
" If you order a refurbished console, dont expect it new"? Right so if i order a pepperoni pizza, i shouldnt expect a pepperoni pizza? If you order a green pair of shoes, should i expect a brown pair?
Since when we have to listen and take any advices from strangers on youtube and excepting from us to follow em? Jacob You do what you want to do as video/concept and who doesen't like em dont see em as simple as that , keep up the good work buddie , much love from Greece...
I’m not on Facebook. And according to all those comments, I really don’t wanna be. It blows my mind how bad they are there, and how supportive we all are here, and not just calling him a liar for the sake of arguing.
Not gonna lie I'm unsubbing for a bit, it's DKOldies every single day.
“Every single customer gets blown out”
Jigsore has since deleted all his videos about DK Oldies because his former colleague or someone who works there leaked some private info that wasn't public. So he deleted them to keep his family safe or something along those lines. He's making one final long video.
I made mention of that on a comment thread directly on a dkoldies video this morning. That company is about the biggest dumpster fire trash heap that's ever existed
Yeah dude was totally doxxed
Wow that looks like something the Corleone family would do. Creepy.
@@jonpeley God father reference. I like you
@@Twili8697 talking about video games we could use Sal Marcano too.
I love the photo of hairpiece Joey in the background! 😝
Yeah DkOldies is definitely a scam.
And a very big one.
They also dox people
The guy who is supposed to clean the systems is named Dustin? You can't make this stuff up!
Nearly spit my drink out at the first sight of that Joey picture behind you. Keep up the good work
"And since your order got picked to be filmed, I'm adding Anthony's soul to it"
I love how the picture of joey gets more and more distorted
There is a lot of dead horses on TH-cam recently.
Imagine buying a used car and they say they cleaned it and detailed it so its sparkly and nice then you get into it and its covered in food stains and smells like fish. Oh but they SAID its been cleaned so it must just be you
Random question, but has he made any comments about the panels being having an almost identical break on both the “New” 360 from Goodwill or the DK Oldies 360 he’s made videos on? It looks like he may have just swapped the top panel onto the Dk Oldies system from the goodwill system.
That picture of ol'gingerbush on the right is an improvement.
It makes me wonder how many of those _'enlightened'_ individuals were working for the guy and trying to throw shade for daring to bring their scam to light. As for the changes, they won't last. It's to get the spotlight off their backs so they can return to business as usual.
Imagine trying to defend a store.
It's like white knighting McDonald's after someone insulted Ronald McDonald
That pic should be a SCP.....its so cursed 🤣🤣🤣
At my repair shop we detail consoles. Cleaning, spraying, washing, and thermal paste and we charge $65 - $85 for it. Yes it usually takes 30mins to an hour depending on how gunked they are.
If what this guy is saying is true, and some employees were "going rogue" and actually properly cleaning consoles, that would explain why there are some DK defenders out there claiming they got pristine consoles. Turns out the employees doing the right thing helped muddy the waters for management.
Another problem with dkoldies is when you're looking through the games there's a price listed so you click on it and go to buy it and the price changes to a higher amount
17:10 This guy is basically explaining exactly who DKOldies demonstrate how they "clean" Gamecube consoles if anybody seen those shorts.
i wasn't ready for the joey image on the monitor
That Joey face blowing the cartridge should be on a tshirt
I like how you have joeys high school senior photo in the background 😂
People who have seen your videos understand why you're shining a light on the situation.
The picture on the tv screen is beyond cursed 😳
Ohh. They are doing it now? So it's been false advertising up to this point? Doesn't this open them up to potential law suits?
the joey in the background during the beginning killed me.
Screen saver in the background
"Heyyyyy you guys"
It's mind-boggling that so many ppl do not know the definition of the word "refurbished"
So are they so backlogged with consoles that they received that they can’t even blow a freaking air compressor into.
Im 💯 support you and your channel bro. You stated all the facts. Love your contents. Respect how u handle and have the level of patience reading through all those negative comments. 👍🏽
How do DKOldies even interpret the word refurbish? I sure would like to see them elaborate on that
Thank you Jacob!
Me: Mom can we get Joey from DKOldies.
Mom: But we have Joey from DKOldies at Home.
Joey from DKOldies at home.
Watching Jacob r and review tech changed my views on refurbished consoles. Thanks 🙌
Yeah I also refurbish my lawn every fall season.
Keep up the good work! I made a video highlighting some of the spam comments on youtube that defend DKOldies, but I'm guessing those people from facebook just hear a bit of criticism and had a knee-jerk defensive reaction, put the blinders on and stepped on the gas.
Waiting for the interview with a former Lukie Games employee.
LMAO! Joey looks like a manta ray or like Rocky Dennis!
Hey babe, wake up! New Jacob R vs DKoldkes just dropped!
Bruh this guy has got to get over this. Not a good look how obsessive he’s been about it
Yeah I'm starting to think he's gay for them
If they sold these consoles as "used with some new accessories", and for a lower price, it would be perfectly acceptable.
"when you go to a restaurant you don't expect new food do you, someone is literally opening it and making it for you. So what if there's hair in it*
I also admire how calm, cool, and collected you are when you’re dealing with stupidity. You’re a better man than me my brother
In the same vein if the facebook comments. You had a comment on an earlier dkoldies video that said its a "conflict of interest" that you make these videos when you haven't mentioned your company a single time in these videos.
Why did you do that to Joey’s face 😂😂
lol
I did my part. Yesterday or the day before I got someone on FB to admit they were wrong about Jacob R and these videos. So at least some of them aren't too far gone, luckily.
FOLLOWED ! i gotchu ! we stand for JACOBR
Your TV kills me. Gonna watch the Goonies again now.
Keep exposing them!
I saw a short they did the other day showing the backwards compatible ps3 when he showed the usb ports on the back they were dusty as hell
Joey's face now looks like a zando zan from the last star fighter.
Those pictures of Joey in the background are too much! 😂
Did not matter how much they clean it. Their prices are crazy high
dk oldies sell's a "refurbished" game cube for 200, I go to a local flea market where someone was selling them for 65 with 2 original controllers and they at least tested them there and stated they weren't opened.
People from Facebook doesn't even know what "Refurbished" is.
"The one that used to be the bad chamber, until the recent refurbishing that is. Of course, we've been calling it the new chamber, but we really should number them. Uh, take them to the refurbished chamber that was once bad"
- King Bumi of Omashu when asked about refurbished chamber mean