It's more of an SUV than 95% of what they call SUVs these days. Locking differential, 6 speed manual, decent ground clearance = better than 100% of the car based Crossovers out there
Your whole weird kid analogy is spot on. There was a kid who moved into my neighborhood when I was like 12, and at first he was strange and I avoided him, but his mom invited me over one day and they were very kind and I became good friends with him. They moved a few years later, but I think about them from time to time
I ran into a HS acquaintance a couple of years ago, soon after he had purchased a Renegade. He really loved it, and he was really excited to tell me that it had the same engine as my Abarth. It really seems like a B-side from Jeep that appeals to enthusiasts who haven’t fully dedicated their lives to angry-headlight Jeep bro culture.
Lol thanks for reviewing my car Nick! Was really nice to meet you ❤️ I do very much like this car if only because its so bare bones, yet modern and comes with a warranty. I absolutely loathe infotainment systems and driving aids. I also appreciate the manual, even if the clutch can be a pain sometimes. I would never recommend anyone buy a 2.4l auto Renegade. Hopefully next year I'll have another car for you as well
Thanks for getting this reviewed! I have the exact same car but white. It’s done a faithful 130k miles now and I still average 34mpg real world. It’s been a joy.
My 2015 1.4 6sp Latitude is closing in on 170,000 miles. I've owned it since new and the only unscheduled repairs it's needed were a new radiator at around 130k and a replacement uConnect head unit (under warranty) back in 2017. It's an ideal family hauler for a family of 3 and a dog, and a practical commuter as well. One of the best all-around dailies I've ever owned. I'd buy another if they'd sell me a manual.
I knew a lady who lived on an Indian reservation. She wanted a car that she could daily back and forth into Gallup,NM but she didn't really need another full sized suv. Apparently it does really well on the dirt roads and whatnot out in Navajo country and it's decent on gas so win win.
2015 Jeep Renegade: For the insecure male who thinks driving a Kia Soul (insert RCR old guy voice here) "might have people think he goes to THOSE clubs in Filth-a-delphia. That's not me!"
"Yes, officer, I'm 50, I was a street artist, i mean I'm still but my wrist right now is in shambles so no more graffiti for me, I only draw them on paper. Yes, I have tattoos of my children names. Yes, my parents were rich but I did art school and embraced the poor guy from the bad ghetto aesthetic. Yes I work in corporate now but i still wear oversized shoes and brightly coloured sweaters, and constantly bore down my colleagues with my superiority complex of being less and oppressed. Yes, that badly parked Renegade it's mine."
"Yes, my parents own the company, but I'm an embarrassment to the family, so they have to hire an outside CEO. They did give me a token management position, but made sure that I don't decide on anything important."
You always know it's a Roman video when it's 720p. Totally fits the Race To The Bottom feel. Edit: My 2014 Civic Si Coupe had a clutch delay valve. It can be modded to give better clutch feel and engagement and it's a night and day difference. Totally worth the trouble. Basically there's a little plastic part inside the slave cylinder and once removed, lets the hydraulic fluid flow through way better.
Maybe that's why I was drawn to this car! (I'm the owner.) Growing up my mom had a first gen crv with a manual, and I absolutely loved riding in it. Now that you mentioned it... It does feel extremely similar. Nostalgia is a funny thing. I still have the trunk picnic table.
@@liamc9585 Interesting point, i know this is overtalked but you know the B20 engines in the CRV were bulletproof, what your opinion on the 1.4 turbo so far?
@@luisdietsch52 change the oil religiously, but apart from that no issues. They do have a timing belt that should be replaced every 70k miles, but a lot of people have gotten to well past 150k miles on the original belt.
Here in Brazil we had the Renegade with the 1.8L Etorq paired with a 6 speed slushbox. Man, that thing is actually slower than many 1L cars I drove. And it rolls! They roll, baby, they roll! But those shopping mall warriors love'em.
First of all, 10/10 video. Secondly, on to the subject of the transmission. This is the exact reason that those "Endangered Species" stickers exist. A real perfect storm of pissing in the party's punch. Let's break it down, one-by-one. -Small displacement engine: Emissions and CAFE regs make tiny engines the way to go. This one is tasked with moving a modern and thus heavy (~3,100 lbs) vehicle. Thus, a turbo has to be introduced to match the engine to the job. Turbos=lag. -Throttle-by-wire: Emissions require the use of throttle-by-wire to prevent rich spikes which would crank emissions, introducing rev-hang and lag. -Clutch delay valve: Because companies don't trust people to understand how to be gentle, they expect people to just dump the clutch. If you try to drive the thing how you're supposed to drive a manual, you'll be stacking, you guessed it, more lag. The result is a manual where you release the clutch slowly, and it still isn't engaged, so you let the rest of the way go. BAM, stalled. Okay, restart. Let's be real gentle this time, and BAM. Still stalled. There isn't enough rotating mass at idle to get this thing going. Let's feed in some throttle, but you didn't account for the rev-hang, and BAM stalled. You have to stack recalibrations on recalibrations. The best cars disappear before you and do as you request without you even thinking about it. You've got to go on an adventure, Nick. An adventure to a time before those regulations caused these problems.
I've got 50 inch jumbotron screen in my Subaru and I definitely miss having a simple dash. Except for Android Auto.. Can't live without it but I definitely want some knobs.
@@PrydeWater901 Exactly what my 2017 Impreza has and it's fucking glorious. And Android Auto mostly works (not sure whether it's just Subaru being flaky, or the fact that I'm using a phone basically the same age as the car)
My mom is still making payments on her White 2.4 9AT. I was driven to school in this thing as a kid before taking the bus made more sense. The buses bench seats were on par if a tad better than all the seats in her Renegade. I regrettably got my license with this thing, and almost got t-boned by oncoming traffic due to how thick the A pillars are. The fact this thing had a manual saddens me- they didn't even try to make it usable. I can imagine offloading with it would involve second guessing and hovering over the e-brake constantly considering how little it took to stall. I would have never driven my last three manual cars if the transmission was setup this way.
I rented one of these for a week. It was comfy and a little nimble on city streets. When I got on it though i could smell the transmission getting too hot. It was the auto
I got youtube premium a while ago because i was blasted with ads about the ford fecalsport claiming its better than the renegade every five goddamn seconds
If you have an iPhone, you can use brave. It has adblock, and lets you play videos with the screen off. UI is a bit crap, but I’d rather deal with a worse UI than pay like $20/mo
I got it because I had had enough of J Lo interrupting me with her Goli ads, especially when listening to "Elysium/Honor Him/Now We Are Free" from Gladiator.
This car isnt for 'jeep guys' at all: its for the girl whose dream car was a wrangler, then find out on the test drive that it handles like shit on-road.
Owned a 2018 manual for a while. Abarth pieces fit on this engine btw. Actuators, blow off valves, turbo wraps. Alpha 4C coils and plugs! The exhaust can be bolted off after the cats, threw in a turndown tip and wreaked havoc in town. One of the most fun I had in a company lease ;)
Your 3 tier system reminds me of Zero Punctuation’s Top 5 Best, Worst, and Blandest system of ranking games of the year. What you’re getting at isn’t unheard of, for what it’s worth Roman - the car is okay and that’s okay
“It just does what you expect it to do without much in the way of complaint.” This is how I felt about my folks’ 2018 Compass that they had for a few years. Yes, it would use a quart of oil between oil changes from factory. Yes, it rode a bit rough. But, it was a base model 2.4L automatic with no frills. It was a $20k car at the time. It was a commuter for us all. I drove it my first semester of college and drove it everywhere in the state. It got okay gas mileage for what it was and handled well. I’m totally fine with a Renegade or Compass. They are just cars with nothing to hide and nothing to brag about. They both just exist and say “Here I am. Take care of me and I’ll take care of you.”
From another view point, a jeep branded fiat panda isn't the worst idea. At least in my mind Fiat panda is the reliable(maybe) regular car of humble man, with taller chassis and bigger room and somewhat off-roadable in a compact car. Outside of fiat-chrysler build quality, it's something that can be respected.
The Fiat Panda is such a great car. If Fiat had the balls of selling it to US and Asia it will cause a riot, but no, Italy has to be represented by the worst reliable products corporate can make I guess... you won't get the Panda, here's another Alfa/Maserati SUV that will brick the moment you'll leave the showroom
This is a size bigger than the Panda, same platform as the Fiat 500X. I think the Panda would sell well in the US as a Jeep but disappear without trace as a Fiat.
I bought my 2019 Mazda3 with the basic packages just because I really enjoyed that all the major controls were buttons and knobs, yet it still had a decent screen and Apple CarPlay at the same time. This is the level of electronics integration I want in my vehicle...and I say that as someone who has worked in technology for almost 30 years now. I live on the bleeding edge of tech, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. My car's #$%^ing interior isn't one of them.
You forgot the liberty renegade!! I had a 07! She was pretty sick. I put a lift on it and 31s but the 4wd was good and it came with factory wide body and roof lights and hella lights on the front bumper. Better than a base wrangler!
When I was a teenager we got a Buick Somerset off of a relative of ours. I saw one parked at the local mechanic’s this morning. I would love to see a regular car review of this absolutely weird car. The things I remember most genuinely about it are the digital displays for EVERYTHING and the odd smell of the very plush interior.
i have a 2017 latitude with the same power train. its not my favorite car, but its been a great car. its done everything ive asked it to do and all it wants in return is routeing maintenance. just about to hit 150k miles and still averaging 31-33mpg on my commute
I had a last second gig six hours away and the production company rented this for me. I had the nicest trim, farthawk, or whatever. That thing was never not overheating and drove just horribly.
I used to have a '13 Abarth 500 with that engine (but a five speed) and it was not the easiest thing to get used to, but in all fairness, that was coming off of 9 years driving a first gen xB that shifted so light that it was happy to float the gears once I got the hang of rev-matching it
It was the off-road trim on the KJ and KK Liberty, with the 3.7L V6 and Command-trac or Selec-Trac depending on the options. I loved mine, and it's the smallest vehicle I've ever owned where I could take a hardhat off while sitting in it, despite the sunroof.
The drivetrain was also shared with the Dodge Dart. It was a fun and zippy little car. We had the 2.4l, despite one recall on the shifter cable and the coolant plastic T-joint melting; it was a good car.
I rented one and the doors felt so cheap, like I could rip one off by hand. I know that’s probably not true but it didn’t have the heft I would’ve wanted. But it got me around Florida for a week fine I guess
I’ve never met a single person who liked their Renegade. Most felt like it was too small (obviously). One person had issues with her 3 year old Renegade breaking down. Lol.
These sold quite well, and I advocated for people to get them because they were just... Good. Not great. But good. Then in 2018 FCA lost their shit, stopped updating them, started increasing prices of all Jeeps and RAMs to cover for their mistakes with Alfa Romeo and Maserati back home, and when the worst event of 2020 happened suddenly there were Jeep Renegades sitting at $32,000 in packs of fifty on dealership lots when most other manufacturers looked like the Mojave Desert with how empty they were. Inventory was up to two hundred days for Renegades at one point, and with the new Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer incoming Stellantis dragged them off the lots with a cane hook and sold them to wholesalers. So suddenly last summer there were a bunch of these 2020 and 2021 models, brand new and unused, showing up in auction houses getting yoinked by used dealers and pumped onto their lots for $15,000. I bet some of them have five grand in mileage from lot ferrying and test drives despite never once being titled.
As soon as I heard Roman's voice, I knew this was Race to the Bottom. Whenever I look at these, I'm reminded of a fun-sized girl I worked with whom I thought I was going to get with, just because she owned one of these.
You just now hitting 40... Better armor up, cause old age has got you in its sights! I had to buy a Ford Flex just so my spine didn't shatter with every bump in the road! I miss driving something low, fast and sporty to hit the back roads in, but that would hurt just trying. I'm just 41 but I was born with a twisted spine that got worse after 3 rear end hits, the last one put in out of the driving game for good. I was a speed courier for all of my adult life as driving didn't hurt my back, I was doing 400 miles a day for work and then another 100 to 200 miles just taking my girl out riding in the mountains. I LOVED DRIVING! Now it hurts me to get out too much to want to get out.... I have to settle for playing Forza to get my driving fix. (but it isn't even close to the real thing, at least it keeps my reflexes sharp)
I had a renegade as a rental for almost 6 weeks... I'd never personally buy one just because of the problems it had (like the seat wiring harness if you had to put the seat all the way back and down because your tall making the airbag abs and ess and seatbelt light come on)but man was that thing peppy to drive alot faster than you think it would be and the seats were extremely comfortable and lastly it feels ALOT bigger on the inside than it is
Funny thing is that in eastern Europe it's still will be a "cool-looking" Jeep. *Nico Bellic accent* "Yeah, it's actually a FIAT, but look at this Jeep design and badge! It's like almost having a Wrangler or Cherokee!"
@christianhighlights4434 why? It has tripple the gas milage of my old vehicle, a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, has 4wd, and can tow my trailer. It has everything I need. I already have a sports car for "fun". This vehicle is exactly what I will need for snow storms
@@moonscar119I just hope you planning on someone else doing the oil changes, are ready to replace lug bolts and are ready for the engine to develop head issues and major oil leaks around 100,000 miles. And yikes, your using it to tow?
This guy needs to be in every board room so he can roast them. I had a Jeep Patriot. I hated the engine, hated the transmission, but was very happy with how well it handled in the snow. Now I drive a stick shift Mazda 3, and it's very reliable, but in Midwest winters, I really wish I had a decent 4-wheel drive.
I helped my (now ex) girlfriend purchase one at a Honda dealership used when we were intending on purchasing a used CRV that was sold 30 minutes before we got there. It has blown every bulb except for headlights at least once, cooling fan failure, and thermostat failure. Not exactly the most intrusive breaks to happen to vehicles, but I definitely wasn't impressed by the 2018 2.4L renegade.
Bought a lightly used, same-spec 2018 and knew it was important to be in on the joke right away when driving a car that looks like Barbie designed it after dropping a tab of acid. At least the Fiat Renegatto looks better than the 500X, which answers the question “what would snot look like if it were a car?” Also, after 100k miles, no real problems. No one is more surprised than I.
The 500X really is ugly. It looks like a Fiat 500 that ate too much cake, gained a double chin and went up three pants sizes. I saw one the other day and had to do a double take because I utterly forgot they existed.
I mean, I love my renegade. Same engine and six speed, only differences are mine has the sunroof that lets you basically take off the entire roof, and instead of lowering my suspension I lifted it. Also it has a tow hitch. And before someone says that a tow hitch on something like this is useless, I moved to Florida last year and drove literally halfway across the country pulling a fully loaded uhaul trailer in that renegade. And it did so fantastically, especially given I made the entire 28 hour trip in one go with only stops for gas and to pee.
this thing is a sleeper rally car, especially if you've ever taken it off to the dirt. i bet the manual is even better than the auto i drove in the desert.
To understand the Renegade imo you need to understand the wider Marcchiore strategy for Jeep then Stellantis: to redefine The Car around the SUV. Sure, the Compass and Renegade *seem* to fall under the same SUV size category, but they’re fundamentally built around two European car design identities: the city car (Renegade) and the small station wagon (Compass), except “SUV-ified.” It explains their international success where buyers are less sensitive to car size (or rather, prefer their cars under 5m/16ft), and more presentation/interior.
I was with my uncle for a wedding in utah and he and I got a Jeep renegade for the tental car because it was cheap. The first thing he did was try to adjust the reae view mirror and it just fell off.
I'm an old soul too at 44 yo. I'd rather have a BIG front ashtray, two ashtrays in the back for the kids (*kidding, muck off big tobacco), but something metal in the rear, column shift slushbox, and three passengers couch front seat than a screen 🎉
12:50 To let my inner pedant out for a minute, Renegade was also use as a trim level for the first-gen Liberty (KJ), and (according to Wikipedia) as a limited edition trim on the second-gen from 2009-2011. So, technically, only a 4 year sabbatical
All I can think of when I hear the word "Renegade" is that cologne brand from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas that had that great radio commercial. Lady: Sir this is not a bathroom! Man: Oh really? *urinating* Lady: Ugh not on my shoes!
The Renegade was never made for Jeep Guys. It was made for people who admire Jeep Guys and fantasize about being a Jeep Guy too. Also for the partners of Jeep Guys who want to feel like they're sharing something in common.
My experience with this car is with the 2.4L auto. It was bought by a loved one who was fresh off a mental breakdown and bought brand new when their XJ was not working out anymore, complete with 7 year loan and a horrid interest rate to boot. I've had to pick that person up multiple times because this thing is always having something wrong with it, and eats through consumables like crazy. I see this thing and I can almost taste MLM essential oils. I can almost smell the 15 fast food cups in the passenger floorboard. I've never seen the inside of one of these things clean in the wild. to me, Its just behind the Nissan lineup for bumper car status. Its like a chariot of mental illness, financial illiteracy, self destructive tendencies, and the inability to take accountability (that stationary object always comes out of nowhere). Its not that this car is inherently worse than every other car out there, I'm sure they are "fine" with decent care. But MAN did they try to steal Nissan's share of horrid drivers and subprime loans.
I feel vindicated by this video, because about seven years ago I had a rent-a-car Renegade (literally from Enterprise) that I put like 700 miles on, and I did genuinely like driving that thing. Maybe the Renegade is like Metallica's "Load" album. It's actually really good, but nobody wants to admit it to their friends. Thumbs up Roman 👍
Jeep Renegade: Rental agencies still charge SUV rates for it.
No, these are considered upgrade for Hertz gold members. Ask me how I know.
If you get one of these, the rental company should pay YOU.
@@2steaksandwiches665 I am so, so sorry for your pain.
It's more of an SUV than 95% of what they call SUVs these days. Locking differential, 6 speed manual, decent ground clearance = better than 100% of the car based Crossovers out there
Yes. It’s a small SUV at Enterprise lol.
Jeep Renegade: My taillights have nipple tassels to hide the naughty bits.
AHAHAHA I'll never be able to look at the tailights the same again. 💀💀
The automotive equivalent of Old Country Buffet is one of the most appropriate descriptions I've heard from you guys in many years.
Your whole weird kid analogy is spot on. There was a kid who moved into my neighborhood when I was like 12, and at first he was strange and I avoided him, but his mom invited me over one day and they were very kind and I became good friends with him. They moved a few years later, but I think about them from time to time
That’s a nice comment.
I ran into a HS acquaintance a couple of years ago, soon after he had purchased a Renegade. He really loved it, and he was really excited to tell me that it had the same engine as my Abarth.
It really seems like a B-side from Jeep that appeals to enthusiasts who haven’t fully dedicated their lives to angry-headlight Jeep bro culture.
I feel like it took the place of the Dart tbh
Am I the HS friend? Because ever since I flipped a Abarth for a 17 Renegade 6mt I haven't shut up about my Italian American lunchbox.
@@unseengrubdoes said lunchbox have an accent?
Lol thanks for reviewing my car Nick! Was really nice to meet you ❤️
I do very much like this car if only because its so bare bones, yet modern and comes with a warranty. I absolutely loathe infotainment systems and driving aids. I also appreciate the manual, even if the clutch can be a pain sometimes. I would never recommend anyone buy a 2.4l auto Renegade.
Hopefully next year I'll have another car for you as well
Thanks for getting this reviewed! I have the exact same car but white. It’s done a faithful 130k miles now and I still average 34mpg real world. It’s been a joy.
The pleasure was all mine, Liam! Thank you for volunteering and for just being such a swell guy.
My 2015 1.4 6sp Latitude is closing in on 170,000 miles. I've owned it since new and the only unscheduled repairs it's needed were a new radiator at around 130k and a replacement uConnect head unit (under warranty) back in 2017. It's an ideal family hauler for a family of 3 and a dog, and a practical commuter as well. One of the best all-around dailies I've ever owned. I'd buy another if they'd sell me a manual.
Your car's pretty oddly endearing in its simplicity.
There may be a clutch delay valve delete kit to solve that problem.
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In the name of the Fargo, the Sundance, and the Spirit R/T...
"I've been 40 for the past 20 years"
I feel personally attacked
Same.
We are a proud and welcoming company of curmudgeons!
I've felt 80 since I was 8. I can't wait to get there. :3
Us Gen Xers have been 30 for 40 years, so there!
Imagine how Arn Anderson feels. Man was 40 for 30 years.
I knew a lady who lived on an Indian reservation. She wanted a car that she could daily back and forth into Gallup,NM but she didn't really need another full sized suv. Apparently it does really well on the dirt roads and whatnot out in Navajo country and it's decent on gas so win win.
But it's a terrible car with an even worse transmission.
@@aliabdallah102uh did you watch the review
2015 Jeep Renegade: For the insecure male who thinks driving a Kia Soul (insert RCR old guy voice here) "might have people think he goes to THOSE clubs in Filth-a-delphia. That's not me!"
My Heart. *clutches heart*
I drive a soul, and I wanted one of these things so bad when they were new
it's not like that
My sister told her boyfriend not to drive a Soul, despite being bi herself. I mean the kind of bi where she has mostly dated women and has short hair.
Drive a Renegatto, owned two Souls. Don't go to THOSE clubs, not that there is anything wrong with that.
and old people. Lol so what. Get whatever car you can in this hellscape.@@JohnSmith-wx9wj
Wait, men actually drive these??
I personally haven't seen it.
Jeep Renegade: The Official Vehicle of "I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD THIS ISN'T A FIAT, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THIS IS A FIAT?!"
I’ve had people get angry when I ask them how they like their Fiat.
Jeep Renegade: The official car for people who just need a Corolla but want to feel ~adventurous~
A Corolla would be a massive upgrade over this
@@vadim6385 Oh for sure. Almost an incalculable upgrade
lots of adventures to their local mechanic
@@vadim6385 An expensive upgrade. A Corolla costs more than a small, simple car should.
@notmirelnam248 Renegade starts at $29,445. Corolla starts at $23,145. How would you price the corolla?
"Yes, officer, I'm 50, I was a street artist, i mean I'm still but my wrist right now is in shambles so no more graffiti for me, I only draw them on paper. Yes, I have tattoos of my children names. Yes, my parents were rich but I did art school and embraced the poor guy from the bad ghetto aesthetic. Yes I work in corporate now but i still wear oversized shoes and brightly coloured sweaters, and constantly bore down my colleagues with my superiority complex of being less and oppressed. Yes, that badly parked Renegade it's mine."
I believe in world peace, equality and cocaine. Also am heading up our local chapter of NIMBY.
@@theseventysevenmiles spot on lol
"Yes, my parents own the company, but I'm an embarrassment to the family, so they have to hire an outside CEO. They did give me a token management position, but made sure that I don't decide on anything important."
@@vadim6385 "I've successfully completed six marriages and rehabs. I know adversity."
You always know it's a Roman video when it's 720p. Totally fits the Race To The Bottom feel.
Edit: My 2014 Civic Si Coupe had a clutch delay valve. It can be modded to give better clutch feel and engagement and it's a night and day difference. Totally worth the trouble. Basically there's a little plastic part inside the slave cylinder and once removed, lets the hydraulic fluid flow through way better.
As a first Gen CRV enthusiast, I felt right at home in the renegade. Really felt like a new and improved version of a 25 years old CRV.
Maybe that's why I was drawn to this car! (I'm the owner.) Growing up my mom had a first gen crv with a manual, and I absolutely loved riding in it. Now that you mentioned it... It does feel extremely similar. Nostalgia is a funny thing. I still have the trunk picnic table.
Minus the whole "reliability" thing
@@liamc9585 Interesting point, i know this is overtalked but you know the B20 engines in the CRV were bulletproof, what your opinion on the 1.4 turbo so far?
@@luisdietsch52 change the oil religiously, but apart from that no issues. They do have a timing belt that should be replaced every 70k miles, but a lot of people have gotten to well past 150k miles on the original belt.
@liamc9585 you gotta do the clutch slave cylinder mod
Here in Brazil we had the Renegade with the 1.8L Etorq paired with a 6 speed slushbox. Man, that thing is actually slower than many 1L cars I drove. And it rolls! They roll, baby, they roll! But those shopping mall warriors love'em.
esse 1.8 extorque é mo bom na minha palio weekend adventure so q é verdade no renegade o carro não anda
The Sony X-plode speaker taillights get me every time.
A friend of mine has one. Engine light came on, we checked the codes. There were 15 codes, all of them transmission related
They should have bought the 6 speed.
🇮🇹👌
The Jeep renegade- waving 👋 at wrangler owners and they don’t wave back
I stopped waving at Jeep Wrangler people
I drive an FJ40 and definitely don't wave back. And God forbid you put one of those f*cking ducks on my cowl
Official headlights that were inspired by the look of a guy busting when he promised to pull out
I looked at the headlights again after reading this and now I'll never be able to unsee it.
Username seems apt. 😂
First of all, 10/10 video.
Secondly, on to the subject of the transmission. This is the exact reason that those "Endangered Species" stickers exist. A real perfect storm of pissing in the party's punch. Let's break it down, one-by-one.
-Small displacement engine: Emissions and CAFE regs make tiny engines the way to go. This one is tasked with moving a modern and thus heavy (~3,100 lbs) vehicle. Thus, a turbo has to be introduced to match the engine to the job. Turbos=lag.
-Throttle-by-wire: Emissions require the use of throttle-by-wire to prevent rich spikes which would crank emissions, introducing rev-hang and lag.
-Clutch delay valve: Because companies don't trust people to understand how to be gentle, they expect people to just dump the clutch. If you try to drive the thing how you're supposed to drive a manual, you'll be stacking, you guessed it, more lag.
The result is a manual where you release the clutch slowly, and it still isn't engaged, so you let the rest of the way go. BAM, stalled. Okay, restart. Let's be real gentle this time, and BAM. Still stalled. There isn't enough rotating mass at idle to get this thing going. Let's feed in some throttle, but you didn't account for the rev-hang, and BAM stalled. You have to stack recalibrations on recalibrations.
The best cars disappear before you and do as you request without you even thinking about it. You've got to go on an adventure, Nick. An adventure to a time before those regulations caused these problems.
I've got 50 inch jumbotron screen in my Subaru and I definitely miss having a simple dash. Except for Android Auto.. Can't live without it but I definitely want some knobs.
Two-knob radio, three-knob hvac. The way god intended.
@@PrydeWater901 Exactly what my 2017 Impreza has and it's fucking glorious. And Android Auto mostly works (not sure whether it's just Subaru being flaky, or the fact that I'm using a phone basically the same age as the car)
Renegade. Built in Italy since 1941. At least it says that ALL over the interior...
OmG, iT's A cOmMuNiSt!!?? D:
It’s a bit like Italy taking revenge on Jeep for WW2.
i live in the italian alps (Muncion), 1 in 3 cars here is a white jeep renegade
The spider on the door trim has a text bubble next to it saying “ Ciao Baby “ Gotta love it😭😂😭😂😭
My mom is still making payments on her White 2.4 9AT. I was driven to school in this thing as a kid before taking the bus made more sense. The buses bench seats were on par if a tad better than all the seats in her Renegade. I regrettably got my license with this thing, and almost got t-boned by oncoming traffic due to how thick the A pillars are.
The fact this thing had a manual saddens me- they didn't even try to make it usable. I can imagine offloading with it would involve second guessing and hovering over the e-brake constantly considering how little it took to stall. I would have never driven my last three manual cars if the transmission was setup this way.
My daughter kept me up all night but at least there’s a new video right now
I felt this bro
That awkward elbow touch of 2 guys that don't know each other well lol
😂😂😂
“Logos…logos…ethos…pathos…”
That was subtle, but that was damn good. A little something for the English Comp. nerds in the audience.
I rented one of these for a week. It was comfy and a little nimble on city streets. When I got on it though i could smell the transmission getting too hot. It was the auto
Jeep Renegade...the car of OMG ROMAN IS DOING THE SMITHS "ASLEEP" AS THE OUTRO SONG!!! That was a deep cut, Nick. Well done.
Especially since “Renegade” by Styx was RIGHT THERE.
@@marty_mcvader I was actually thinking of using that, but I'm almost positive I already used it for something, even though I can't remember for what.
It's my favorite Smiths song!
I got youtube premium a while ago because i was blasted with ads about the ford fecalsport claiming its better than the renegade every five goddamn seconds
I got it because I can turn the screen off and keep listening to podcasts. No ads is great too.
If you have an iPhone, you can use brave. It has adblock, and lets you play videos with the screen off. UI is a bit crap, but I’d rather deal with a worse UI than pay like $20/mo
it's 2024, "we make the free version so shitty it forces people to buy our product" is commonplace and it's very silly
I got it because I had had enough of J Lo interrupting me with her Goli ads, especially when listening to "Elysium/Honor Him/Now We Are Free" from Gladiator.
@@michaeldurrett8388 _laughs in Brave browser_
This car isnt for 'jeep guys' at all: its for the girl whose dream car was a wrangler, then find out on the test drive that it handles like shit on-road.
Thats my front door neighbor.
Lol this. atleast it doesnt have the worlds worst suspension issues that are found on wranglers.
Owned a 2018 manual for a while. Abarth pieces fit on this engine btw. Actuators, blow off valves, turbo wraps. Alpha 4C coils and plugs! The exhaust can be bolted off after the cats, threw in a turndown tip and wreaked havoc in town. One of the most fun I had in a company lease ;)
The refining (or revealing?) of Roman's authorial voice has been one of my favorite things about the recent history of this channel.
Your 3 tier system reminds me of Zero Punctuation’s Top 5 Best, Worst, and Blandest system of ranking games of the year. What you’re getting at isn’t unheard of, for what it’s worth Roman - the car is okay and that’s okay
“It just does what you expect it to do without much in the way of complaint.”
This is how I felt about my folks’ 2018 Compass that they had for a few years. Yes, it would use a quart of oil between oil changes from factory. Yes, it rode a bit rough.
But, it was a base model 2.4L automatic with no frills. It was a $20k car at the time. It was a commuter for us all. I drove it my first semester of college and drove it everywhere in the state. It got okay gas mileage for what it was and handled well.
I’m totally fine with a Renegade or Compass. They are just cars with nothing to hide and nothing to brag about. They both just exist and say “Here I am. Take care of me and I’ll take care of you.”
From another view point, a jeep branded fiat panda isn't the worst idea.
At least in my mind Fiat panda is the reliable(maybe) regular car of humble man, with taller chassis and bigger room and somewhat off-roadable in a compact car.
Outside of fiat-chrysler build quality, it's something that can be respected.
The Fiat Panda is such a great car. If Fiat had the balls of selling it to US and Asia it will cause a riot, but no, Italy has to be represented by the worst reliable products corporate can make I guess... you won't get the Panda, here's another Alfa/Maserati SUV that will brick the moment you'll leave the showroom
This is a size bigger than the Panda, same platform as the Fiat 500X. I think the Panda would sell well in the US as a Jeep but disappear without trace as a Fiat.
Hehehehe panda huehuehuehue, its a souped up doblo underneath
The Roman learning to drive stick at 40 in a review car is great
Good thing you editied the video before blowing through that stop sign. @4:34...😂
Roman is the stellantis of rcr reviews.
I bought my 2019 Mazda3 with the basic packages just because I really enjoyed that all the major controls were buttons and knobs, yet it still had a decent screen and Apple CarPlay at the same time. This is the level of electronics integration I want in my vehicle...and I say that as someone who has worked in technology for almost 30 years now. I live on the bleeding edge of tech, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. My car's #$%^ing interior isn't one of them.
You forgot the liberty renegade!! I had a 07! She was pretty sick. I put a lift on it and 31s but the 4wd was good and it came with factory wide body and roof lights and hella lights on the front bumper. Better than a base wrangler!
Ohhh yeah I remember those! Did that light bar grow as much rust as it looked like it would? I recall them being a giant blob of plastic
When I was a teenager we got a Buick Somerset off of a relative of ours. I saw one parked at the local mechanic’s this morning. I would love to see a regular car review of this absolutely weird car. The things I remember most genuinely about it are the digital displays for EVERYTHING and the odd smell of the very plush interior.
i have a 2017 latitude with the same power train. its not my favorite car, but its been a great car. its done everything ive asked it to do and all it wants in return is routeing maintenance. just about to hit 150k miles and still averaging 31-33mpg on my commute
I had a last second gig six hours away and the production company rented this for me. I had the nicest trim, farthawk, or whatever. That thing was never not overheating and drove just horribly.
Roman was in his bag on this one!
I used to have a '13 Abarth 500 with that engine (but a five speed) and it was not the easiest thing to get used to, but in all fairness, that was coming off of 9 years driving a first gen xB that shifted so light that it was happy to float the gears once I got the hang of rev-matching it
You can delete the clutch delay release valve, and make it feel more normal.
Looks like the description is for a 1991 Lincoln, but the video is for a Renegade
Oof, my bad! Thanks for the heads up!
@@LimitedTimeRoman It was a great video as usual!
@@jrope3991 Thank you! That genuinely makes my day.
I believe there was also a Renegade edition of the Liberty at one point...
It was the off-road trim on the KJ and KK Liberty, with the 3.7L V6 and Command-trac or Selec-Trac depending on the options. I loved mine, and it's the smallest vehicle I've ever owned where I could take a hardhat off while sitting in it, despite the sunroof.
Jeep Renegade: The official car of internally going "but I don't want the guys down at the pickleball court to think I'm not straight"
2015 Jeep Renegade: The official car of Craig.... RIP craig.
The drivetrain was also shared with the Dodge Dart. It was a fun and zippy little car. We had the 2.4l, despite one recall on the shifter cable and the coolant plastic T-joint melting; it was a good car.
I rented a renegade for a week, it was the cheapest model on the lot. That said it wasnt terrible.
I rented one and the doors felt so cheap, like I could rip one off by hand. I know that’s probably not true but it didn’t have the heft I would’ve wanted. But it got me around Florida for a week fine I guess
My neighbor had one for a few years then one day it disappeared and reappeared then a little while later left on a flat bed.
That's how I felt about the Kia Soul. Previously experienced a rented Mitsubishi Outlander Sport and I hated it.
I’ve never met a single person who liked their Renegade. Most felt like it was too small (obviously). One person had issues with her 3 year old Renegade breaking down. Lol.
this is unironically a great car with the Diesel engine and awd, even though it's a crossover
A coworker has one and ever since they had it. There's more glitter in that oil than the 4th of July.
Roman rarely hates cars because he likes the people who share them with him. Nothing wrong with that.
The CarMax 21% interest special
Another Jeep Renegade fun fact: Initially they had an issue where they were able to do a stoppie and lift the rear wheels off the ground.
These sold quite well, and I advocated for people to get them because they were just... Good. Not great. But good.
Then in 2018 FCA lost their shit, stopped updating them, started increasing prices of all Jeeps and RAMs to cover for their mistakes with Alfa Romeo and Maserati back home, and when the worst event of 2020 happened suddenly there were Jeep Renegades sitting at $32,000 in packs of fifty on dealership lots when most other manufacturers looked like the Mojave Desert with how empty they were. Inventory was up to two hundred days for Renegades at one point, and with the new Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer incoming Stellantis dragged them off the lots with a cane hook and sold them to wholesalers.
So suddenly last summer there were a bunch of these 2020 and 2021 models, brand new and unused, showing up in auction houses getting yoinked by used dealers and pumped onto their lots for $15,000. I bet some of them have five grand in mileage from lot ferrying and test drives despite never once being titled.
Nice review Roman, I'll admit that you are really starting to get your voice for these reviews! Keep up the good work!
This is the default security vehicle for security guards
As soon as I heard Roman's voice, I knew this was Race to the Bottom.
Whenever I look at these, I'm reminded of a fun-sized girl I worked with whom I thought I was going to get with, just because she owned one of these.
The best part about the Renegade is driving behind one. They rear has "friend shaped car" energy.
You just now hitting 40... Better armor up, cause old age has got you in its sights! I had to buy a Ford Flex just so my spine didn't shatter with every bump in the road! I miss driving something low, fast and sporty to hit the back roads in, but that would hurt just trying. I'm just 41 but I was born with a twisted spine that got worse after 3 rear end hits, the last one put in out of the driving game for good. I was a speed courier for all of my adult life as driving didn't hurt my back, I was doing 400 miles a day for work and then another 100 to 200 miles just taking my girl out riding in the mountains. I LOVED DRIVING! Now it hurts me to get out too much to want to get out.... I have to settle for playing Forza to get my driving fix. (but it isn't even close to the real thing, at least it keeps my reflexes sharp)
I had a renegade as a rental for almost 6 weeks... I'd never personally buy one just because of the problems it had (like the seat wiring harness if you had to put the seat all the way back and down because your tall making the airbag abs and ess and seatbelt light come on)but man was that thing peppy to drive alot faster than you think it would be and the seats were extremely comfortable and lastly it feels ALOT bigger on the inside than it is
Funny thing is that in eastern Europe it's still will be a "cool-looking" Jeep.
*Nico Bellic accent* "Yeah, it's actually a FIAT, but look at this Jeep design and badge! It's like almost having a Wrangler or Cherokee!"
I literally bought a 2023 last monday. 13 miles on the odometer and "brand new"..... LOVE IT!!! It was a steal
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Hey if you like it who cares.
I pity you brother.
@christianhighlights4434 why? It has tripple the gas milage of my old vehicle, a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, has 4wd, and can tow my trailer. It has everything I need. I already have a sports car for "fun". This vehicle is exactly what I will need for snow storms
@@moonscar119I just hope you planning on someone else doing the oil changes, are ready to replace lug bolts and are ready for the engine to develop head issues and major oil leaks around 100,000 miles.
And yikes, your using it to tow?
Welcome to the world of Italian cars. Have driven them for over 30 years and only once made an exception. Went back as fast as possible 🇮🇹😄
Lol the description is completely wrong.
EDIT: fixed now, but next upload is apparently a Lincoln Towncar.
This gotta be one of the most fun videos I’ve seen lately.
This guy needs to be in every board room so he can roast them.
I had a Jeep Patriot. I hated the engine, hated the transmission, but was very happy with how well it handled in the snow. Now I drive a stick shift Mazda 3, and it's very reliable, but in Midwest winters, I really wish I had a decent 4-wheel drive.
I helped my (now ex) girlfriend purchase one at a Honda dealership used when we were intending on purchasing a used CRV that was sold 30 minutes before we got there. It has blown every bulb except for headlights at least once, cooling fan failure, and thermostat failure. Not exactly the most intrusive breaks to happen to vehicles, but I definitely wasn't impressed by the 2018 2.4L renegade.
Best review yet IMO, hysterical, honest, and informative.
Bought a lightly used, same-spec 2018 and knew it was important to be in on the joke right away when driving a car that looks like Barbie designed it after dropping a tab of acid. At least the Fiat Renegatto looks better than the 500X, which answers the question “what would snot look like if it were a car?” Also, after 100k miles, no real problems. No one is more surprised than I.
The 500X really is ugly. It looks like a Fiat 500 that ate too much cake, gained a double chin and went up three pants sizes. I saw one the other day and had to do a double take because I utterly forgot they existed.
I mean, I love my renegade. Same engine and six speed, only differences are mine has the sunroof that lets you basically take off the entire roof, and instead of lowering my suspension I lifted it. Also it has a tow hitch. And before someone says that a tow hitch on something like this is useless, I moved to Florida last year and drove literally halfway across the country pulling a fully loaded uhaul trailer in that renegade. And it did so fantastically, especially given I made the entire 28 hour trip in one go with only stops for gas and to pee.
We're going to be nostalgic for the FCA years when we get the Renault-based 2029 Jeep Hurgleburgle.
Citroen*
If this didn’t have the Jeep name associated with it, I think it would have been more successful than the scion and the cube
I would never own one (because Chrysler), but I've always like the Renegade. It has personality and it's adorable.
A trails in the sky reference?!?! Didnt expect that tune
Not crazy about these, but I can’t deny that y’all clawed through the depths to find the single best renegade spec possible 😭
Jeep renegade, because an Eddie Bauer ad showing a Jeep lifestyle spoke to me 6 years ago. And now I'm apart of that lifestyle and still an idiot.
I wasn’t expecting a parody of Sleep by The Smiths at the end
As a fellow member of the Arn Anderson lifestyle club about to turn 30, I feel that already 40 line.
this thing is a sleeper rally car, especially if you've ever taken it off to the dirt. i bet the manual is even better than the auto i drove in the desert.
To understand the Renegade imo you need to understand the wider Marcchiore strategy for Jeep then Stellantis: to redefine The Car around the SUV. Sure, the Compass and Renegade *seem* to fall under the same SUV size category, but they’re fundamentally built around two European car design identities: the city car (Renegade) and the small station wagon (Compass), except “SUV-ified.” It explains their international success where buyers are less sensitive to car size (or rather, prefer their cars under 5m/16ft), and more presentation/interior.
I was with my uncle for a wedding in utah and he and I got a Jeep renegade for the tental car because it was cheap. The first thing he did was try to adjust the reae view mirror and it just fell off.
I'm an old soul too at 44 yo. I'd rather have a BIG front ashtray, two ashtrays in the back for the kids (*kidding, muck off big tobacco), but something metal in the rear, column shift slushbox, and three passengers couch front seat than a screen 🎉
Jeep renegade: The official car of the budget conscious “adventurous” mom who thinks 2 inches of snow is the next Moab.
12:50 To let my inner pedant out for a minute, Renegade was also use as a trim level for the first-gen Liberty (KJ), and (according to Wikipedia) as a limited edition trim on the second-gen from 2009-2011. So, technically, only a 4 year sabbatical
One of my favorite outro songs yet!
Buddy of mine drove one and said the A pillars are so dangerously thick, he was convinced he would hit a pedestrian within a week if he owned one.
I had a 2016 manual version of this. I sold it for a BMW two series. I miss that jeep a lot.😢
All I can think of when I hear the word "Renegade" is that cologne brand from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas that had that great radio commercial.
Lady: Sir this is not a bathroom!
Man: Oh really? *urinating*
Lady: Ugh not on my shoes!
The Renegade was never made for Jeep Guys. It was made for people who admire Jeep Guys and fantasize about being a Jeep Guy too. Also for the partners of Jeep Guys who want to feel like they're sharing something in common.
Best one time use car on the market! I had a almost new one as a rental and in comparison to the Kia Soul S rentals I have had it comes very short.
My experience with this car is with the 2.4L auto. It was bought by a loved one who was fresh off a mental breakdown and bought brand new when their XJ was not working out anymore, complete with 7 year loan and a horrid interest rate to boot. I've had to pick that person up multiple times because this thing is always having something wrong with it, and eats through consumables like crazy. I see this thing and I can almost taste MLM essential oils. I can almost smell the 15 fast food cups in the passenger floorboard. I've never seen the inside of one of these things clean in the wild. to me, Its just behind the Nissan lineup for bumper car status. Its like a chariot of mental illness, financial illiteracy, self destructive tendencies, and the inability to take accountability (that stationary object always comes out of nowhere).
Its not that this car is inherently worse than every other car out there, I'm sure they are "fine" with decent care. But MAN did they try to steal Nissan's share of horrid drivers and subprime loans.
I feel vindicated by this video, because about seven years ago I had a rent-a-car Renegade (literally from Enterprise) that I put like 700 miles on, and I did genuinely like driving that thing. Maybe the Renegade is like Metallica's "Load" album. It's actually really good, but nobody wants to admit it to their friends. Thumbs up Roman 👍