2019 Moto Guzzi V85TT Review | Ugly duckling or classy Italian stallion?
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- 2019 Moto Guzzi V85TT Review: I'm thrilled to say that the nice folks at Wheels Motorcycles in Peterborough have lent me my first ever Moto Guzzi motorcycle to try for a few days!! In the next week or so I shall ride the pants off this puppy and bring you my findings, but in the mean-time here's my first impressions review!
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Got to love a Guzzi, they do stuff their own way and that's what I really like about them....
Indeed.
Remeber as a kid staring wide eyed at somebody's 850 Le mans , god i wanted that bike, so different to the Japanese stuff of the day.
I've owned two Le Mans, a 1982 MkIII and 1990 MkV. Different yes they are but oh so satisfying.
I loved the LMII but wanted to tour so bought the Spada Royale
Me too. I used to sit in bed at night as a teenager looking at a magazine with a full page photo of a black and gold Le Mans
@@pja7 "Me too. I used to sit in bed at night as a teenager looking at a magazine with a full page photo of" We have all been there, that's why we all wear glasses.
Thanks for the review. Very informative. Having read it……..I’m picking up my v85 in 2 days time followed by riding home through the Peak District. No test ride, I know I’ll love it. Life is too short to dither about. Bikes……the only therapy we need 😊
Congratulations on the new bike!
Thanks for posting. It vibrates, it shakes, it bakes, all metal, air cooled, clunky shifter wow a true retro! I have always had a soft spot for the Guzzis. Surprising they can keep up with Euro standards with an air cooled engine. Love the color scheme, the head lights. Great video.
As a Guzzi owner I think the paint scheme is "odd" there are other options such as matte grey and matte blue that are more standard. Now in general Guzzis are different so until you actually get on and ride one it's hard to understand why we folks love em so much!!! Great review keep em coming...
Thanks Mitch - will do!
Yeah, I like the red one.
I definitely enjoyed my recent ride on a V7 iii Racer. The detailing is wonderful and you really feel the brand cares about the little things. It's easy to understand why enthusiasts are so dedicated to the firm.
As a Guzzi owner, you should've known that this particular paint scheme is an hommage to the 1985 V65TT that participated in Paris-Dakar ;-)
That said, I do agree that the bike looks a bit better in standard colours, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder of course. Those bikes also come as standard on more road-oriented rubber. Personally, I quite like the looks of this V85.
@TheMissendenFlyer should definitely try the V7 III. That bike is in a way the Porsche 911 amongst bikes. Been around for over 50 years and has slowly evolved and become better with age. Just like the V85, it looks underpowered on paper, but in reality it's got plenty of go, right in the usable rev-range. Feels way more powerful than the specs make you believe.
Looking forward to a review :)
Interesting how so many in the comments seem to want to compare this to the 1200 GS instead of the 850 GS. Great review as usual.
Great review. Love Guzzi's... refreshing to have a non conforming bike with bags of character and great build quality. Every Guzzi i have ever ridden always made me smile and installed that special feeling. I think this bike is priced well for such a capable and do it all machine. Being a twin with low down grunt only ticks another big box.
I think Moto Guzzi have a winner here 👍
I would agree. The 2019s were completely sold out in August here in the US. The 2020s are starting to trickle in now. Looking forward to a go on one before year's end.
I wish I had a Moto Guzzi dealer nearby. They are few and far between here in the states. Lovely looking and sounding bike.
Took one of these out for a test ride a couple of days ago... absolutely loved everything about it. My normal ride is a R1200R for home and CRF250 at work. This is kind of somewhere in between. Loved it that much am currently in negotiations to part x my 2017 R1200R for one....
Did you ever swap the 1200R for the Guzzi?
@@aidanreilly5469 Yes I did a year last September. Thinking of swapping again. Love the bike but fallen out with dealer and Moto Guzzi re servicing issues
@@jigerland439 That's a shame. It's a great looking machine too.
@@jigerland439 that’s such a shame !☹️ some dealerships ruin things by very poor customer service
Wow, you ride a CRF250 for work, you must have a great job.
It's a shame that you have been let down by the dealership.
Guzzis are about the last bike you can maintain yourself, so I know that you shouldn't have to, be you could just order stuff online and take the maintainance into your own hands, this will give you a closer bond with the bike.
Love this bike! It's the only adventure-style bike I actually like the looks of. And it looks better in the flesh. Thanks for the video Mr Flyer!
I've bought one. I love V 85 TT, it's a modern Guzzi, easy, well built sharing classic concepts with modern ideas. Thanks Moto Guzzi ( and Piaggio)
You know it´s me because im behind a white van, ha ha ha. Glad to se my favorite youtbe bike review site doing my favorite bike brand. I have done 205,000km on my California 1100, without much more than service and maintenance. Im glad you like this different but very rewarding bike. Cheers from a fellow flyer.
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OMG! Finally! Next the V7III! AND OH that sound! Love it!
I've owned one since it came into the UK. I am 22 years old and ride a Guzzi since this is A2 compliant and I love the look of the motorcycle. How many companies can say that they have younger riders on their classically styled bikes?
As always from The Missenden Flyer; very well done and professional review. Thumbs up for he V85TT!
Remember when everyone thought the R80 G/S looked weird, especially the Paris Dakar version? Guzzi gearboxes tend to loosen up after a while, and the slowish steering makes them really stable. Thanks for another great review. 👍
Its shocking to me he thinks this bike doesn't look good. He's been staring at GS's too long
He said the same thing about the RE Himalayan. The man's got no taste :D
Looks are subjective and I’m not a fan of the garish colour scheme although the red frame looks great 👍
I rather like this bike, love the color scheme and you’re right, from what I could see the details were impressive. Thank you again for an excellent assessment! Well done as usual
Got one and love it - Tank is plastic not metal and the headlights are full LED
Thanks for the clarification on the lights....
I was thinking the headlights were full led as well
Love it 😍 My V strom is shaking in the garage now.
Uh oh!!
The V Strom still beats this on power though, I'm buying me a V-Strom next spring!
@@OperationFoxley19441 it depends wether your talking about 650 or 1000...i wish i had one guzzi and could be the v7 but i cant justify the price/specs compared to any other japanese brand
My v Strom went to fund this. Not disappointed.
@@farmoboy83 The 1000 dude sorry, the V strom 1000 has a violent engine.
@ 7:45 -- Actually, it's an in-line V-twin, since whether an engine is "transverse" or "in-line" depends upon the crankshaft orientation, *NOT* where the cylinders end up sticking out! ;-) Nice review, enjoyed it very much. BTW, it seems to be just a fact of life that shaft drive bikes have heavy & clunky shifting: I've ridden several different brands over the years, & they're all notorious in that way. Helps to preload the shift lever before releasing the clutch to "pop" it into the next gear smartly & then engage clutch again & off you go.... Doesn't matter whether it was my old XS Eleven Yamaha, '86 Honda G'wing, 2003 V11LM Guzzi or any other shaftie, there's just something about the added inertia that makes them all respond to being massaged into gear in the same manner. Thanks to my old pal Dave Dow for the pro tip. Ride on, Dave, wherever you are!
Incorrect, it's definitely not an inline V-twin as the crankshaft rotation is transverse to the direction of travel.
@@endurojimmy3109 eh?
@@oldguzziguy Confused? Well Moto guzzis and BMW boxers have always been referred to as transverse twins. Maybe to differentiate them from a conventional V twin such as a Harley Davidson, Indian etc or maybe because of their crank throw dictates the cylinders layout being transverse in the frame. In fact on the Moto Guzzi spec sheet they described the engine as transverse (and they should know).
To confuse matters, in the car industry cars such as the Mini had the engine turned through 90° so they could shorten the wheelbase and they described this as a transverse engine as it was mounted at 90° in the engine bay.
You will always get someone trying to apply this logic to motorcycles, but it's pointless and muddies the water.
Possibly because the engine of a Motorcycle is generally seen we described the engine rather than haow it's mounted for example an inline four, parallel twin, V twin or a transverse V twin.
I learned the trick for engaging 1st gear from an MG forum. They recommend pressing down on the gear lever while gently releasing the clutch lever. Worked every time on my Breva 750.
Became standard operating procedure for both my Breva 750 and BMW R80. Easy as.
So happy to see you do the Guzzi review! I think it is a beautiful bike. As you say, lots of character.
Your quite right about how it grows on you. At first glance, I thought butt ugly but the more I looked at it. It grew on me. Bug eye lights on the front are the hardest for me to take.
This is the first bike I have every liked with dual headlights like that. Very nice review Sir. Thank you.........Sal : )
I've been waiting patiently for this one, and am delighted that you appeared pleasantly surprised by the ride! I've now tested a couple and found the handlebars almost too wide for London congestion, but loved how easily the cruise control works. I also ventured along a wooded trail, and found the turning circle WAY better than I am used to on my Tracer.
Not to put a damper on things but there is a fair buzz on Guzzi forums about oil being sprayed out of that rear shaft. Might only be affecting 10% and it is believed to result from over filling the oil there, but oil and rear tyres are never a good combo. The UK dealer hadn't heard of this a few months back so must be rare.
Out of all the bikes I've owned, the one I loved the most was my 1990 Moto Guzzi Le Mans MkV. I also briefly owned a 1982 Le Mans MkIII. I owned the MkV for 11 years from new and covered over 120,000 klms on the girl. Big, red and noisy, and a fabulous mile muncher. Almost anti-social. 1000 kilometres days were covered often.
She's no longer of this Earth. My Le Mans MkV ended up in a ditch at 120kph in the rain returning from the 2001 Phillip Island World Superbikes.
Rain in Australia? I remember that (just). Riding in the rain? Like Alan Bond, "I don't recall"....
All those cars! They are everywhere! This is "Nightmare on every street!" :-) As usual, a lovely made film.
Thank you John - appreciated!
Surprising that a mature and seasoned rider, such as yourself, had never ridden a Guzzi before. ;-) I want to warn you that they're addictive. I've owned and ridden many over the last forty years and I was fortunate to lead demo rides for Piaggio during the '16 & '17 Sturgis Rally where I led many trips up and down Vanocker Canyon. I, of course, was able to ride all of the Guzzi models and they all have that same engine and transmission feel. A little clunky but positive, reassuring, and an engine sound that only a V done the way it's meant to be can produce. They have decent pulling power throughout the rpm range, but really like to stay above 4,000. The shifting becomes much more exact as they break in. They also hold a steady line in the twisties albeit the steering is heavier and slower than some other machines. We Guzzi riders become so accustomed to these that most of us stay with this brand for years. (I do own several other makes at the present time and have owned almost 30 bikes since 1971.) I enjoy your reviews as you are one of the few who seem to take time to understand a bike and have a nice delivery. Come to the Black Hills area and I'll show you some great roads.
Thank you....may be one day I’ll make it over! Thanks for watching and for stopping by...A
This is the Italian Harley Davidson.. got a character that you either love or hate
Now you have it in adventure skin too.. yumm
Hi TMF - an interesting first ride. Looking forward to the fuller review. Thanks again, yours aye, Alan
Thanks mate for the " most exellent review " I have been onto to you for some time about reviewing the V85TT . Thankyou VERY much from the Land of Aus.
I thought fellas from down under would shy away from air cooled bikes because of the intolerable heat in summers.
How DO air cooled bikes fare in Australian summers?
MackP January to March is our worst times in most places of Australia. We’re I live in February/ March most days are between 34-44 degrees. But northern Australia is Warner for most of the year. But air cooled bikes seem to do ok with modern oils theses days .
Nice to see you get onto a Guzzi at last TMF. I'll be curious to see how much it grows on you over the coming days.
This will probably be my next bike. I'll wait a year or two for the bugs to get worked out. Thank,you for FINALLY reviewing a Moto Guzzi!
Hiya TMF, never heard anything bad about them, people I knew that owned them loved them. Hope you're enjoying the sunny days :)
I'm glad to see they use a regular ignition key. Another nice review TMF.
Me too!
Thanks for picking up this lesser-reviewed bike. For some reason, Moto Guzzi aren't very common. Could be due their divisive looks. Wonder what happens when you drop it and that protruding engine case hits the ground. An aftermarket guard would be a worthwhile investment.
Could be the lack of dealerships (or support). I bought a Breva 750 when a dealer was in town, now the closest is 200km away...
It’s hard to believe this is your first Guzzi. I really like them as a nice, mature person’s bike. They remind me a bit of Harley Davidson without the macho image and excess weight.
17:44 UK, where even the petrol pumps say "Sorry." 😉. On a serious note, it would be interesting to hear about heat from the cylinders on one's legs. Seems that configuration will make for pleasant cooler rides, by not so much in the heat of summer. Maybe in the next video?
Stay tuned!!
The best vid of the 85 TT I've seen so far👍, I do like the look of the bike but unsure of it as a two up tourer as its lack of power so hopefully moto Guzzi brings out a 1100/1200. Good video
same here. I test rode it and loved everything, but lack of power. Scrambler 1200 has a great engine, but didnt do it for me. Waiting for sth in the region of 100+ hp and I will buy it:)
As a Moto Guzzi California Aluminium Sport owner and former BMW R1150GS owner Moto Guzzi could have made this bike for me. With the price being more than I can afford it will be a while, but with a favourable first impressions from you, plus we didn't have to wait for the white van, Mrs H may be unimpressed Asni go into saving.mode :-)
Excellent review TMF, had two Guzzi’s before the GS (California 1100 & Norge 1100), loved both of them. Only heard good things about the TT so far so is a defo contender for, and fits the ‘middleweight’ bracket too which is where I think it’s at for me next time. Look forward to seeing more. I love the unique Guzzi styling btw.....it’s going to grow on you too😉
Mmm, maybe!
Test rode one, really liked it! And looks better in the flesh too!
Excellent first review. It's great to see shaft drive on a relatively small capacity engine. Triumph and BMW please take note!
I agree I wish Triumph would put shaft drives in the Tiger 800. Love the Tiger but I hate chain maintenance. Every bike I've ever owned has been chain drive.
Great balanced review, as ever, for bikers who live in the real world. If you get the chance, try a Guzzi V7 111 - another characterful, practical bike that is also pretty.
Visited a Moto Guzzi showroom in Northern Ireland - in the flesh the bike is absolutely unique. I'd compare it to buying a Lexus or Alfa versus buying a BMW or Merc. Good first review TMF 😁
Yes good comparison I think!
I test rode one a few weeks back and fell utterly in love with it, great engine character and fantastic handling, although I'd have it in the grey and not the "Ronald McDonald" colour scheme
Yes, I feel only "clown types" are drawn to the Ron Mac colour scheme 🎅
Looks really good to my eye. The lights will split opinion but as a Street Triple owner I don't mind them. I had a quick look at the other colours and the bike looks better in grey, less gaudy and nicely understated. Looking forward to seeing your update. Thanks again TMF.
Remins me so much of my old Le Mans, Nice looking bike and a fantastic vlog. Ride safe Andy
Looks great to me. Also I'm pleased to see more bikes in the 8 to 900 c.c range ..im guilty of having many1.0 11 12 1300 c.c adventure and tourer bikes but wonder why when smaller ccs are perfectly adequate..
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Mr. Flyer- I've looked forward to your tests of this machine! To me it is the prettiest of the ADV bikes, despite looking like Donald Duck from the front. It would have been in the running for my next bike except that a 1250GS came available first. Please try it out with Mrs. Flyer on the passenger seat too, as this aspect of riding is often not reviewed. Thanks, Bob
Oops! Too late - sorry!
Comfort, easy maintenance, 4.9liter per 💯 km, screw tappets pushrods, oh my this bike is amazing 👍
I quite like it, not sure about the bright red frame work with this colour scheme though, otherwise I think it looks great. Thanks for another great review Mr Flyer! 👍
Exceptional video quality and as always very informative
Great review as always... not really a Guzzi fan but cheaper than I was expecting. 😎
Pleased you liked it TMF! Hope you can get a go on a V7 or another Guzzi, feel like they'll get under your skin eventually. Love my Griso.
Great review! Big issue with Guzzi is the limited dealer network in USA and parts availability.
Sounds awesome!! Really nice bike
I nearly bought an 850 La Mans Moto Guzzi in the early 80's when I lived in Oz, brilliant handling but as I was 6foor 1nch then (I have shrunk since) I was a bit gangly on it, beautiful looking machine, ended up buying a Laverda Jota instead. All the best 👍👍😎
Rode an 850 T3 years ago attached to a Squire adult and child sidecar. Worked really well and the T3 had 1 front disc linked to the rear brake for co-ordinated braking. The handlebar lever controlled the other disc. Braking system great especially for slowing a heavy sidecar. The torque of the bike was powerful enough to get the outfit moving. Excellent engine and full of character. Love shaft drive bikes.
Like it.
Diversity is good.
Question mark dealerships for travellers, but looks and sounds a great bit of nicely equipped and not over complicated kit.
Hopefully more reliable than my brothers old v75. Sure it will be.
Good stuff.
Happy travels.
You nailed some Guzziesque issues. Your trouble with first is completely normal. I would prime the shifter first. You also get big clunks when shifting. Getting it into N can also be tricky and sometimes when shutting from 1 to 2 ....up pops N!!! I've been riding for 36 years and like you said there is nothing like riding a Guzzi.
True for older Guzzis, but the V85 shares the same new 6-speed gearbox with V7 & V9, and they shift like a knife through butter once you refine your technique.
I have never ever had a false N, or any kind of mis-shift on my V7. Those straight-cut gears whine like buggery though, but that's all part of the charm.
Great to see the marque alive and well,piaggio should be proud.
IMO easily the best looking adventure style bike out there .
The bike looks really classy in the gun-metal gray........Sal : )
Great looking bike, better than any KTM i have ever seen, love the colour scheme.
Be careful Mr Flyer, I bought my V7 9 years ago and now can't bear to part with it (nor can my wife). So a second bike is now necessary (damn, damn!) There's something about how that transverse v makes its power. You're dead right about the vibrations btw: I test rode a Kawasaki z1000sx last week and the high frequency vibrations at 5k-5.5k were a real issue on an otherwise pretty flawless bike - I had tingly fingers and buttocks for a couple of hours after riding. I'm thinking of getting a ducati supersport instead even though the Kwakker is a much more capable bike overall (and cheaper). I think the biggest problem with the V85 is the tubed tires. Guzzi could have learnt from ze Germans and given us spoked wheels that run tubeless. Great review though. I've been waiting for Guzzi to put that engine in a V7 chassis for a couple of years. Hopefully at EICMA...
They did already it's called a V9...
@@BigMoeFo Well, not exactly. The V85 is a brand new engine which makes 80bhp, whereas the V9 engine makes about 55bhp. Also, and this is just personal taste, I'm not keen on either the bobber or roamer looks-wise or handling-wise, whereas obviously I'm a fan of the V7 (at least once i took the rear fender off it, installed mistral exhausts and put some hagon shocks and fork springs on it. Oh, and lowered the instrument panel.... the list goes on.
Great review Andy! Good to see you enjoying a Goose 🙂
I’ve seen several reviews of the V85TT now and they all seem to agree that’s it’s a lovely bike, full of character and really puts a smile of your face - with the only issue being its looks. I like it - not at first but it’s grown on me. Would I buy one? Maybe. If I had the means to own multiple bikes then I think the V85TT would certainly be a contender for a spot in my garage, but the trouble is if you can only afford one or two bikes making a decision is so difficult with so many great bikes to choose from.
First world problems eh? 😂
A great review Andy 👍
Andy 🏴
TMF the van magnet! Great review and lovely bike
Thank you!
I like the way it looks it's different from other adventure bikes
Looks great. Very clean design.
I really I want a Guzzi one day, badly. I still love the Grisso, just a gorgeously designed machine.
Griso is the best looking Guzzi, I agree. Don't know if they make it anymore. Maybe they do.
Loved the V11 LeMans from the early 00’s. Hard to find those second hand in the US
I do love the 1980s Dakar vibe and all the wonderful wonderful details the brand is known for on full display with the V85TT. I find the paint scheme appealing as well, but I can understand why others feel differently.
I hope you road test the 2021 moto Guzzi V7 stone with the 853cc engine
Nice video, great Motorbike and AMAZING Trademark 🏍🇮🇹👍
...and I live in the Ghostown that made this Motorbikes 😉
I like it. There is always something unique about them.
Thanks for the review.
Absolutely great review as always. How about Yamaha tenere 700? Any review soon?
Sadly I don’t have access to one, but when I do I’ll bring you my review....stay tuned!
I don't like the looks. But a lot of riders ignore Moto Guzzi. Maybe because of the sparse dealer network? I owned a 2012 white Moto Guzzi Norge 1200 sport tourer for a while, and I absolutely loved it! It was unique in so many ways. It was super comfortable, tons of power, wind protection and had character. People don't know what to compare it to. You would be very pleasantly surprised how nice it rides. Gas mileage wasn't great but I liked it almost as much as my "14 BMW R1200RT.
Great to see Guzzi have improved their build quality. Loved that engine back in the 80s prefer it to the Boxer. I'd have one but not in those colours.
splodge 57 improved their build quality ??? My 2007 Griso is beautifully built
Blu Atlante, Mmmm....
Would be interested to know if there is much vibrations at motorway cruising speeds through the pegs/seat/bars. I like this bike, but noticed you made a point of putting a T when pronouncing Guzzi 😁, this is tres important. Can’t wait for a update on this one, thanks TMF.
Duncan Blanchard check out bike social Simon Hargreaves rode one for 19 hours or something like that it’s on the u tube
Yar, just like the T in pizza!
Another stonking TMF review, interesting bike, reminds me of my first GS 1100 which was yellow and red! Reckon this could sell well, providing the dealer service network is up to it!
The lady in the petrol station defo heard you 😂 im torn on this bike, not usually my thing but i am actually liking the strange look of it
Love the look of this. Refreshingly different.
Another great review TMF. I think these look great. Unusual design but classic Guzzi. Moto Corsa in Gillingham are my local dealer for these. My wife and I just got back from riding the Amalfi coast on a rented 300cc Vespa. It's probably a bit of a holiday romance but it would be good to hear your opinion of the larger cc scooters. Keep up the great content.
Always liked them, quirky, retro. Reminds me of the early GS which started my eye on dual-sport bikes. I nearly bought a Stelvio, but they are just too tight with the length of my legs so I went with the GS. The way they carried up the frame tubing in the back is very nice for carrying the load of luggage and passenger.
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EWAN MCGREGOR IS THE AMBASSADOR FOR THE V85 TT. He is the one who turned me on to the BMW GSA and I have to say I feel the same as you do about this bike . It is growing on me and is the only bike that I may get other than a BMW GSA.
Andy,
A great review, come and try a Le Mans 1, to see how things have changed in 40 years, the handling of their Tonti inspired frames has always been great. The torquey Guzzi V twin engines will typically do many 1,000’s of miles if properly serviced etc, at £10.8k it looks fantastic value & a bit different... Tim
Think it was Bike social a guy rode a thousand miles in 20 odd hours on one of those Guzzi's . He said the frame paint was chipping a bit on his but loved the bike.
Oooo....i love it. Great review Andy.
Thanks Ken...
I love the company and the ethics behind Moto Guzzi, where else can you pick up hand built Italian motorcycles for this price. If you're ever around Wheels again, it'd be cool to grab a coffee with you. They're the local dealer I go too aswell, everytime I walk round I wanna leave on a damn Guzzi
I looked at the moto guzzi for my current bike. Really nice bikes and vibration isn't intrusive as far as I could tell.
Love the look of this bike.
It's so lovely. I've seen it in the metal quite a lot. I see a lot of Italian tourists coming thru my town. It's gorgeous. Not to big, not to small. Sounds like a motorcycle should sound. I'd get one so bad but I do a lot of town riding especially during the summer with our Mediteranean hear. I don't like it being air cooled. I'm probably wrong but.
Hit the nail on the head there TMF. Italian bikes are just cool. End of👍
Enjoyed the first review Tmf bike looks great thanks from Danny
Fully understandable that you had missed Moto Guzzi. New company established in 1921. :)
After a 30 year break from bikes I bought a V7 II and 4 years on it still feels great, even commuting to work feels like an occasion on a Guzzi! Be careful Andy, once bitten by the bug there's no going back...
PS. I prefer the Red/White colour scheme, and apparently a Capnord front mudguard bolts straight on the V85 :-)
A totally unique looking bike. Personally I really like it. Be interesting to hear your option once you've covered a few more miles.
Stay tuned!
Cool looking bike. Great review!