One Of These Is THE WORST SCRAMBLERS I've Ridden... | Moto Guzzi V85TT VS BMW R9T Urban GS

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  • @spitescorner
    @spitescorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    What's your pick? The R9T for some off road flair and cruiser vibes, or the Guzzi for a neo-retro sport tourer with some dirt road chops?

    • @nickmcfarland6822
      @nickmcfarland6822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Spite I've got a Himalayan if you want to borrow it for a video

    • @desertbear4410
      @desertbear4410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      V85TT is an underrated bike for the price. I picked one up last year and I ride it daily (when im not buried in snow lol). my other 2 bikes have been relegated to strictly off road (300cc 2 stroke) and hard off road adventure 790R. anything else I grab the keys to my Guzzi, such an enjoyable ride especially when you dump the boat anchor instal a Y pipe and a nice aftermarket can.... riding bliss

    • @henrietn
      @henrietn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@desertbear4410 hey man. I got a v85tt from 2019. Do you mean removing the catalytic converter? Any more things you need to do ? And yea v85tt all the way for comfort.

    • @joesutherland225
      @joesutherland225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Guzzi been a fan boy for 40 yrs

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@desertbear4410 which 2 stroke? I love 2 strokes man. The soundtrack can be an acquired taste but once you get it you fall hard for it. Especially if you understand the technical side of why it’s sounding like it does etc.

  • @andrewgee241
    @andrewgee241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    I hope Whitney becomes a regular contributor to Spite's Corner. Spite doesn't seem threatened by allowing other people to shine unlike you know who.

    • @trippyrides5674
      @trippyrides5674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Say what you will about Spite parting ways with you-know-who, at least he had an on-air sendoff (sucky as it was). Whitney's exit didn't even get a mention :(

    • @dw0095
      @dw0095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Y'all love the soap opera drama. Move on, heal your emotional wounds 🤣

    • @jesusdavidburgosgarcia3055
      @jesusdavidburgosgarcia3055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@trippyrides5674 Wait, she's also out? Low move not to even mention it :(

    • @andreas.619
      @andreas.619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jesusdavidburgosgarcia3055 yeah yn is a total scum bag

    • @Masse24796
      @Masse24796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I knew that Josh has a new job, but I thought Whitney still was a Team Member on YN?

  • @ryanashley347
    @ryanashley347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    Spite and Whitney Absolutely Rule!!!!!!!!!!

    • @JoshPhillips7781
      @JoshPhillips7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed. As an on screen duo, just really fun. 2 very down to earth people that just f*cking love riding. I actually liked seeing how two bikes that don't really compare... compared. Especially given two very different riding preferences. You should do this more often. Next up: Panigale vs. RS 1250. They both have big engines... Good enough for me... Lol

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshPhillips7781 do you mean the v4 ?

    • @JoshPhillips7781
      @JoshPhillips7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrishart8548 clearly

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshPhillips7781 hardly fair 1260 V4 vs a dumb underpowered boxer engine that's basically still air cooled with a tiny bit of water cooling it half the power and 50% more weight. How about the s1000rr instead.

    • @JoshPhillips7781
      @JoshPhillips7781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrishart8548 I think you're missing the point here... Compare two bikes that really shouldn't be compared. I'm pretty sure the Pani and S1000RR have been compared to death already.

  • @culturedsquid8442
    @culturedsquid8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Whitney and Spite have so much chemistry.. I love watching them chill and talk bikes.

  • @jasonepley9650
    @jasonepley9650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I love my V85TT. It’s way better than I needed it to be. Thoroughly enjoyed a 6800 mile ride through 22 states this year on it. It’s a competent Swiss Army knife multi tool of a motorcycle. It does more than 1 thing & does them all well.

    • @billwilliams9362
      @billwilliams9362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it an upright ride ?

    • @bangladeshiadventurer1621
      @bangladeshiadventurer1621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I did 22,000 miles and 40 states over 4 months period on this guy.. absolutely flawless snd loved it to bits!

    • @TravisTerrell
      @TravisTerrell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billwilliams9362 Very much so, look at it lol

  • @motorcyclesplanet
    @motorcyclesplanet ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sold my Beemer and got 85tt , very satisfied :)

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you back with a bmw again yet ?

    • @motorcyclesplanet
      @motorcyclesplanet ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chrishart8548 No But i Went Back Further meaning Back To HONDA lol Still Have The GUZZI , and sorry but will never go back to BMW , Servicing and maintainance is too demanding and expensive

    • @oluffriesthomsen7680
      @oluffriesthomsen7680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course there is more power in a 1200 cc contra a 850
      Its not just power, i would say driveability will count for more.

  • @whatsstefon
    @whatsstefon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The V85TT is not dad jeans, it’s the cool grandpa that no one expects did some crazy shit in his 20s.

  • @harryjennings5602
    @harryjennings5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I love Whitney's attitude.
    -- I don't want a motorcycle that makes me think, "This is the pinnacle of engineering and I am connected to road and machine."
    -- I want a motorcycle that makes me think, "What the hell were these guys thinking?

    • @ws8080
      @ws8080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah - not me. Sorry, but quirky isn't what I want and definitely not at that price.

    • @dantownsend4246
      @dantownsend4246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe they are thinking navigating Starbucks parking lot . Remember to stand on the pegs for speed bumps

  • @c_kemper
    @c_kemper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had an Africa Twin… made the mistake of riding a V85TT… a few weeks later it was in my driveway.

    • @MusicMath123
      @MusicMath123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can you tell what was the decision point?

    • @c_kemper
      @c_kemper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MusicMath123 when I pulled away 🤣

  • @gsleatherworks2442
    @gsleatherworks2442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I bought a 2020 V85 Travel on a whim and was very pleasantly surprised.
    Unless you need to feel your eyes pushed back into the back of your head power, the V85 will put a smile on your face. It’s not a race bike-it’s an air-cooled 850 with shaft drive! However……
    Get rid of the cat with a y pipe and it sounds pretty darn good. Add an angostini or mistral pipe with a mild tune and you’ll have a hard time keeping from wrapping the throttle.
    Still won’t win any races but you’ll have lots of fun. The bike actually handles better than you’d expect.

  • @ykph5188
    @ykph5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Guzzis are an acquired taste...they are not a sport bike from a Japanese manufacturer,but the modern day retro from Italy...I personally think they are doing great things....

  • @markschick3796
    @markschick3796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Whitney's here! Excellent. Whitney and Spite's ride reviews from the [other channel which shall not be named...] were always entertaining and informative. Glad to see the team back together.

  • @JamiePryke
    @JamiePryke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Bought a v85tt early this year. Within a couple of months I'd taken it from the UK, through Spain and over the Alps to its home in Mandello for a photo at the Moto Guzzi gate. The bike just makes you feel good.

    • @yesmichaels4571
      @yesmichaels4571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      imbuing a850 TT travels well

  • @paulbutler5067
    @paulbutler5067 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Moto Guzzi for sure. My son has the V7 Stone, which has the same engine, and I am looking at the V85tt. Just nice motorcycles. Fun, simple, reliable, efficient, and well styled machines. They just put a smile on your face every time you ride it; the way motorcycling was supposed to be.

    • @davidphillips7255
      @davidphillips7255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are not the same. A lot of the time when I would be cruising along in sixth on my V7, at the same speed I will be in fifth with my V85. The V85 doesn't feel quite as grunty but at the same time it is a much freer spinning, much more responsive and quicker bike. It feels more modern. That doesn't make the V85 better, just different. I like them both. In terms of performance and handling the V7 feels more like a brand new vintage bike. Great fun, but on a twisty bumpy country road I can ride much more quickly on the V85 with less effort.

  • @vincenttarquini4235
    @vincenttarquini4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely the Moto Guzzi for me. I will be 68 in March and am 6'5" 280Lbs with a 32" inseam. Living in South Dakota, we have a fair amount of unpaved roads and a lot of miles between major towns and cities. Long distance comfort, good road manners, and a high MPG are a must out here. I already own a Victory Vision Tour which is a great mile muncher, but at 900lbs a little much for running around town and a little hairy on dirt and gravel. The Guzzi would be a great second motorcycle for both commuting and as a back up bike for long trips. The down side is that the nearest dealer is about 150 miles away as the crow flies. Thanks for the fair review,

  • @geecee4746
    @geecee4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Guzzi is a really special bike, nothing like it.

  • @chrissunde1104
    @chrissunde1104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really enjoyed this video as a v85tt owner who almost bought an r9t. Bring back Whitney when possible. She adds a valuable and interesting perspective.

  • @shadyvito
    @shadyvito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "there is something very Italian refrigeratory about it" maybe the greatest comparison ever uttered about a motorcycle!

  • @avv2231
    @avv2231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks! So I bought a 2022 V85TT Guardia D'Onore. You reinforced my decision.

  • @eddyhoughton6542
    @eddyhoughton6542 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude(s), I'm so glad you didn’t slate the Guzzi. I ride a V7 (853) and I'm on the point of getting an ADV bike, the Guzzi 85TT is right up there against the Triumph Tiger 900, KTM 890, and Norden 901. I'm test riding one next week, and can't wait. The V7 is a gorgeous little bike, and for being well short of 100 HP is surprisingly quick.

  • @christiankirkenes5922
    @christiankirkenes5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Oh sick, Spite's got a friend. Good to see he found someone with a personality for a change. Happy new year mate, looking forward to watching your journey through 2023!

  • @SlyBSer
    @SlyBSer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Really glad you guys got the V85 instead of the RE as I actually just placed an order for the V85 earlier this week! Keep up the great content!

  • @drc1577
    @drc1577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very cool video as I actually have these two bikes in my garage.
    The R9T is the equivalent of a sports car (reminds me of a Porche) sexy, lots of torque and very fast with a stiff suspension.
    The V85 is just a great all-around bike. Enough power for town rides and highways, capable enough off-road to get you through dirt roads without issues, its good looking and most important for me it’s super comfortable. Like Spike said “A couch on 2-wheels”.
    My favorite hands down: the V85TT.

  • @papatorr3669
    @papatorr3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    To all you newer riders, especially the younger ones: I just got back from a 1 hour ride on a Kawasaki VN 750 cruiser on twisty, hilly, mountainous gravel roads on the Foothills near Skyline Drive. More challenging than the off-road sections showed in the video. My advice is don't spend anymore than you would need to get a Himalayan; in fact you can spend half as much. If you're going to do a lot of off-road work get a dual purpose bike between a 250 and a 650. But even on gravel roads more challenging than the ones shown here I had a great time on my Vulcan 750. And I own a TW200, XT225, and the DR650. (Now I'm not recommending any other cruiser, and I've had a lot.) Use the $6-7,000 you'll save for trips gear and time off work. I've been riding since 1975 and have over two dozen bikes. Do yourself a favor and listen to an old man looking out for you!

    • @beer3029
      @beer3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have seen people in Central America ride scooters in places that 99.9% of adventure bike riders would never dream of going.

    • @papatorr3669
      @papatorr3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beer3029 I fantasize going through some place in Central America on my dual range hi/lo transmission Honda CT110! It's really quite the little hill climber in LO gear.

    • @schrodingersmechanic7622
      @schrodingersmechanic7622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I picked up a CRF300L and I've been enjoying the crap out of it. It's so much fun when I find a new dirt road to explore and for my skill level it's more than adequate for single/ double track.

    • @papatorr3669
      @papatorr3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schrodingersmechanic7622 That's an excellent choice! Finding the right fit for each rider is very important. So for me: The taller seat on the CRF is harder on my hip joint the day after compared to an XT. Also the XT compresses to a lower seat height when my weight is on it. And a used XT is cheaper than a CRF, another consideration. Also XT has a six-speed transmission. Is the CRF 5 speed or 6 speed? I got my XT 225 for $2,000 with 12,000 mi. So it's a great choice for an older, shorter, guy on a budget. The CRF300 is a better bike on a spreadsheet comparison, though.

    • @schrodingersmechanic7622
      @schrodingersmechanic7622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@papatorr3669 the crf is a 6 speed. I bought mine "used" with 200 miles on it for $5k. I imagine that bike will outlive me if I keep up on maintenance. I never expected a slow bike to be so much fun.

  • @jonparker1712
    @jonparker1712 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What the V85TT lacks in outright grunt compared to a Stelvio or GS, it makes up for in feeling lighter and more nimble. One of the best handling motorcycles I’ve owned.

  • @joe2479
    @joe2479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys nailed this review. I love my new V85TT.

  • @stiggy186
    @stiggy186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've spent a few hundred miles on a V85 and it's just a ludicrously comfortable place to sit, and I'm 6'7". Very impressive bike.

  • @andrewearly4589
    @andrewearly4589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Always awesome to see Whitney on the channel! Great bikes to feature. Happy New Year!

  • @ericmcdonald7313
    @ericmcdonald7313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got my 2020 TT85 from AF1. Love it. I am not a hard core speed rider and just love the way it handles. Such a beauty to look at as well. Great video

  • @CunananBanana
    @CunananBanana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm glad Moto Guzzi is getting some attention. Loving the videos Spite!

  • @DrewMonge
    @DrewMonge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So cool to see Whitney on the channel. She's so down to Earth and sweet.

  • @markmcintosh7095
    @markmcintosh7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I put the taller windscreen on my v85tt and with the bags I love it. It does everything good.

  • @SuperNova-Steve
    @SuperNova-Steve ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guzzi Looks like a great tourer, Beemer looks like a great Weekender

  • @Simulera
    @Simulera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Moto Guzzi makes addictive, solid, rider-conceived motorcycles. They last and are really wonderful things that age well. I rode many BMW’s for years, bought many new and used older ones from the late 1970s up through 2015. Now I don’t. I still like some older ones, R-69s, R-75, R-90, R-100 and especially R-80 G/S. But the 2007-ish to now, I tried but they lost me. The newer, the less I like them unfortunately and I do not like feeling that way. The brand new ones are just not so nice to ride- or to own, in my opinion. I think I’m not alone, but not sure as I’m not really a hater and don’t want to go around talking bad but there it is. And I’ve had two bikes with the engine that is on the 9T there. It’s a sort of harsh and buzzy motor, some of them have notchy transmissions. Seats, well, no. Seems odd for such a price point. So - didn’t like them that much anymore although I tried almost out of habit or loyalty or hope or something, but liked them less anyway as time went on. To the point that when the follow-on water boxer engine series came out, gave a try, didn’t feel it, then when the price point shifted up again as well as the weight, when they got even fussier etc., it was a revelation - and a relief - to happen discover riding around on a Moto Guzzi. Twin, air, shaft, great brakes, good handling, mellow, quality build, serviceable ( though shaft service is not easy, it must me said). There are not enough dealers but it works out for various reasons. Worth a try imo, any model of new Guzzi is really ok enough to try out. They’re all cool, nice to ride around on, interesting and unusual. Some more unusual than others, true enough.

  • @Eidrian111
    @Eidrian111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely looooooooooveeeeeee the V85TT. The only bike I would buy from the dealership.

  • @anthonypellegrino1633
    @anthonypellegrino1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome to see Whitney on here !

  • @luispnrf
    @luispnrf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After months of doubt I went with Moto Guzzi V85TT (exact same color) since the R1250GS was too expensive and never saw the RnineT GS as a GS and after 1,5 years I couldn't be happier with my choice. It is great for commuting, travel and some off road. But the Moto Guzzi V-twin engines (with the exception of the new engine from the V100) are not new tech, they're from the 60's.

    • @cochazza
      @cochazza 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And to think that wheels are tech from thousands years ago and we're still using them

  • @kraventhearcher
    @kraventhearcher ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I tend to be on the same page as Whitney. I like the bikes that somehow escape the bean counters and were passion projects. The v85 is cool, but the actual R9T scrambler with spoke wheels is way better as an esoteric all roads mount for me. I'd put the V85 against the F850, really. I might match her R9t against a V9 or something of the bobber/standards from Gootsie.
    It's important not to crucify the quirky bikes on the altar of precision marketing targets and absolute flavor of the month market niches.
    They're both great bikes that have wonderful quirky character. It just depends on what kind of weirdo you are and what weird thing are you going to do with them, which is usually the way you have epic fun on a motorcycle.

  • @Loftus84
    @Loftus84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice to see you guys together again !
    Great comparison. The motoguzzi seems like a good alternative to other adv / sports touring options.

  • @josephbraca5271
    @josephbraca5271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why are you comparing an almost 1200 cc vs a 850 and then saying it has more power? Shouldn't it?

  • @Rover4387
    @Rover4387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great to have the band back together!!!

  • @anthonyraimondo683
    @anthonyraimondo683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love my V85 TT. Every time I ride it I grin like an idiot

  • @EseJuey
    @EseJuey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whitney is such a lively and entertaining partner for spite. They really work together well

  • @ricatiman
    @ricatiman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a former Moto Guzzi 850 owner, I have always wondered what's so great about BMW - So I have now had 2 on extensive rides and owned one( just 4 months), and I got to say, they all suck hard in ways that matter to me as a rider - handling being my number one - BMW just cannot (flat twins) handle, on or off road, as well as that Guzzi. And BMWs are so common - you see them every day but the Guzzi draws attention everywhere, and not just from motorcyclists. Sadly gone from the quiver, replaced by a Ducati Monster S2R1000 now.

  • @1Chuck4U2C
    @1Chuck4U2C ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking at both of these bikes, and finally decided on the Guzzi, I went into the dealer thinking BMW Scrambler and walked out with the Guzzi. The Out the Door Price with all the Boxes was Less Expensive. My next DYI Bike Build is a 2003 HD Sportster Scrambler

  • @Cludnugget
    @Cludnugget 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That v85 is one hell of a good looking adv bike

  • @troyangle7311
    @troyangle7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome to see Whitney you two work so well together...hope she becomes a more permanent contributor

  • @djsomers100
    @djsomers100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review and descriptions! V85TT Centenario owner here and BMW lover. V85 is a really special bike.

  • @karlbishop7481
    @karlbishop7481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a Gootsie lover. I thought when I saw the title another Guzzi blood bath. Surprised because of all the Beemer owners in the world. What really cracked me up was when you called the Beemer quirky. That's a term that has been associated with Guzzis for decades. BTW the colors on the Guzzi are the 100th anniversary colors.

  • @MayaConner16
    @MayaConner16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the dual-host setup here. Also wonderful to see Whitney on your channel!

  • @rubenangelvarisco4233
    @rubenangelvarisco4233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spectacular Guzzi !!

  • @yescavol1637
    @yescavol1637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a treat to see Whitney again! I really enjoy the banter back and forth between you two and hope there will be more of this. I do like the looks of the Moto Guzzi but that’s just me liking odd things. 1950’s Italian refrigerator 😂

  • @shadyvito
    @shadyvito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I kid you not. I was watching a video last night and said that I miss you doing these with Whitney. You guys make a good team.

  • @dasko3
    @dasko3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    @Whitney_Does is so brilliant in pairing these two as a matchup!

  • @todi5088
    @todi5088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another example of appleorangism: the TT85 is an adv bike and the R9T is a scrambler. Either you compare the TT85 to the F850GS or the R9T to the V7 Stornello (which probably also sucks at off-road)

  • @stuarthammond1009
    @stuarthammond1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    R1200 air/oil cooled unit is a motorcycle great , sadly the rest of this machine is NOT premium especially the front forks, you would find better on a Chinese 125. The top r9t comes with premium suspension but not this one. So you have too chuck money at it. The guzzi is absolutely unique it is in a class of ONE. You don't sit on it you wear it . Guzzi were once brought buy guzzi owners this bike as changed all that. Dealers report part ex's from all the other manufacturers. It's different but so is the beemer so may not be for everyone. Best bike I have ever ridden/owned and so proud to see it in my garage and be part of something very very special

  • @phil4986
    @phil4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review. Always love when Whitney adds her take on things. The R9T is an awesome looking bike. BMW really knows how to finish their motorcycles. That said a MotoGuzzi V twin makes a very special sound. I'd have to hear it run but it looks great especially the way you sit on it, really looks comfortable.

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never thought it would be controversial for me to point out that the Guzzi’s v twin is just a v twin and it’s mounted sideways, and the bmw motor is a flat twin not a parallel twin, but both were said here. The first in the video, the second in the comment section spite called the boxer a p-twin. I feel like I’m being pranked 😂
      Luckily In reality it’s a v twin which makes it a great motor

  • @sachan9081
    @sachan9081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video! Just my 2 cents why I like it so much:
    You talk about aspects while demonstrating them (off road capabilities, on road)
    You aren't just rambling in a helmet mic for the entire video
    Switching between the 2 views while having a dialogue is refreshing
    You both have your own honest opinions to give
    Well edited together. I love the drone views in between.

  • @MK384
    @MK384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the content. No give aways or selling. Just pure love of riding.

  • @David-mu5rv
    @David-mu5rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It seems that the V transverse engine offers great smoothness. I owned an 82 Honda CX. It was my first bike and I may consider Guzzi someday.

  • @D.Brett.Cartwright
    @D.Brett.Cartwright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While you're riding Guzzi's, please try out a Griso? It's more in line with the RnineT.

  • @thierryfaquet7405
    @thierryfaquet7405 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see Whitney again ! Love those double testing versus comparison like you did on the previous channel you both were on.

  • @ytoblivion7753
    @ytoblivion7753 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve just discovered your channel after being curious about where you went, I love that you’re bringing in the people from you know who! You were the reason I watched him and it’s so sad what happened but it’s so so so good to see you building your own thing! Keep up the good work man!

  • @erocnw1341
    @erocnw1341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the two person, two bike type of review where each person rides both bikes back to back. and compares them. This gives riders and readers a specific way to gauge the performance of a bike. I also understand Whitney's comment that a bike that is easier to ride and smoother isn't always the most fun.

  • @eddielopez7272
    @eddielopez7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @whitney you compare the V85TT to the Pan America,sorry to told you this but there are not in the same category. V85TT is a middle weight adventure bike. Pan America competes against the Triumph Tiger 1200, BMW R 1250 GS, Suzuki Vstrom 1250 etc etc .

  • @papatorr3669
    @papatorr3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Great video, I'm a fan, you two are good together. Do your best to follow up on your initial plans of having a Himalayan and a KLR 650.

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm not giving up, that's coming for sure

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@spitescorner Please consider using this on future reviews- Instead of pointing out flaws and stating them as such, point out where it could be improved and how. No bike reviewer does this, they merely criticize without offering solutions. I strongly believe changing this aspect on your reviews would GREATLY enhance your relationships with manufacturers and dealerships.

    • @andreimuresan6987
      @andreimuresan6987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      KLR 650 vs KTM 390 ADV will also be interesting

    • @papatorr3669
      @papatorr3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spitescorner Please include Whitney on the KLR650 review to represent us shorter riders. I think your KLR 650 is a good fit for you. I would not recommend it to Whitney and would love to hear her feedback. At 5'4" I had to choose between lowering my KLR650 or selling it. I sold it for two reasons. It was a wonderful design from the factory and it lost some capability by lowering it. Reason 2 was that they made a better bike for shorter riders from the factory, the DR 650. Then of course you can go the other direction and get an even taller 650 from Honda. I'm dating myself as these are all decade old models and designs.

    • @IndependentVictor
      @IndependentVictor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spitescorner Oh I'm waiting that one like crazy. It's actually the only two adventure bikes I adore

  • @AZGeek520
    @AZGeek520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both and the R9T Scrambler is a blast to ride in the mountain twisties, but not off-pavement, and not for 200 mile rides. The V85TT is the better bike for all-around utility and the one I take for long, multi-state rides. Not a perfect bike, but it does a lot of things remarkably well. Thanks for the comparison.

  • @johnconti1329
    @johnconti1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Guzzi is not an opposed twin. Its a transverse mounted V twin.

  • @Big_DT
    @Big_DT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see Whitney on the channel. MG V85TT all the way.

  • @paulprosser4108
    @paulprosser4108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have rode both those bikes back to back, No one in their right mind would pick the B.M.W over the Moto Guzzi, which is a better bike all-round.

  • @tuicks11
    @tuicks11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice one! Would love to also see a full V85TT video.

  • @shadetreesurgeon
    @shadetreesurgeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was truly amazed by the moto guzzi when I spent a weekend on one. Absolutely astounding that they could design something so gorgeous and the engineering team could make the engine just as exciting as instant potatoes. That engine is a snooze fest 😴

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's not helped by the fact that it makes no noise. I bet an exhaust would liven things up. What good is a motorcycle if you can't annoy your neighbors with it?

    • @Thunder_Bear_mg
      @Thunder_Bear_mg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dammit shadertree! We went over this. Just because it’s an Italian motorcycle doesn’t mean it’s gonna be a pasta rocket. The engine is only an air cooled pushrod vtwin 850 engine. you can’t expect 1200 performance from it.

    • @BlueberryFennec
      @BlueberryFennec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Moto Guzzi V7. Same engine, but slightly detuned. The stock exhaust is a snooze fest, agreed. But with the Mistral exhaust, it becomes absolute music.

    • @alejandrorebelde5314
      @alejandrorebelde5314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spitescorner If you take out the cat and get a Y the sound gets better immediately

    • @geecee4746
      @geecee4746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its fast enough, and handles beautifully

  • @markellott5620
    @markellott5620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm in the process of switching from BMW to Guzzi. I do like the big boxers and enjoyed my time with the RT, but the new Italian beauty has stolen my heart. So I'm buying a V100 Mandello. In this case, off road, the R1250GS is probably a better bet, but heavy. As you say, the RnineT is more a styling exercise. It's a shame you didn't get to do the Himalayan. I've got a Scram and that is very planted on the dirt.

  • @warriorpoet9629
    @warriorpoet9629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 1200 GS and I think it’s probably the best adventure tourer ever made. However I love Moto Guzzis and I really feel that BMW can get it really right or really wrong. The GS is poetry but the 1800 hundred cruiser and the scrambler just don’t seem to crack it somehow.

  • @BrotherSilverback
    @BrotherSilverback 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "I'm a great fan of Moto Guzzi...I didn't know they were doing the ADV thing." Credibility =zero

  • @joesutherland225
    @joesutherland225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And everytime I ride the guzzi people inevitably say hey cool bike even squids lol

  • @jimmyb4982
    @jimmyb4982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys have good chemistry. Oh, yeah, the Moto Guzzi would be my pick. It has it in spades.

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    'Round these parts Guzzi is like the dad-bikiest brand that ever took to the road. I only know one person under 50 with a Guzzi, and that's because she's literally riding her dad's bike. 🤣
    HOWEVER, I love the Guzzi style, though I've only ever ridden the V7 Racer, and even that only on a closed course. They just look damn cool to me. The dads aren't wrong! I'd ride the heck out of a V85TT.

  • @curtholloway7627
    @curtholloway7627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I picked up my 2023 V85TT in November of 2023 and have fallen in love with it. The bike just seems to be a good all around bike. I now spend equal time in the saddle between it and my 2022 Harley Davidson Lowrider ST.

  • @michaelhawes7185
    @michaelhawes7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that r9t is beautiful 😍 ❤️

  • @RAF238thCdr84
    @RAF238thCdr84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A motorcycle that reminds you of a refrigerator...., Whitney is one of a kind!
    You two need to do a Ural and take turns in the side car... that would be hilarious!

  • @mikekearsley2407
    @mikekearsley2407 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid. I bought a V85TT 3 months ago and have been enjoying the motorcycle. You might want to compare the V85TT with other mid size ADV bikes. Thanks from Seattle.

    • @HDB112
      @HDB112 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Triumph 850 and BMW F850GS.

  • @insatiable_mind
    @insatiable_mind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s always good to see Whitney. I would go for the Moto Guzzi if that was my thing.

  • @cwroberts79
    @cwroberts79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Both cool bikes, given the option I’d take the guzzi.

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A man after my own heart

  • @nomad74777
    @nomad74777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always enjoy seeing that abandon gas barbecue grill on your off road demos.

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's how you know it's a good video. The surprise grill

  • @drgeoffangel5422
    @drgeoffangel5422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The R Nine T is just a raw beast! That's it's appeal! I have one and its very rideable especially on twisty roads!

  • @brucewygal133
    @brucewygal133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I chose the Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'Onore. My other bike is a 2004 Victory Vegas which kinda is like the BMW in that it is old school with lots of torque and cruiser style handling. The Moto Guzzi handles so good in comparison and that makes it a blast to ride on the twisty's. It also does pretty good on tails that aren't too gnarly. The motor in the Victory is it's strong point and I love it for that and the styling is awesome. Two great bikes that are very different. Lucky me!

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Victory’s are dope they deserved to stick around. I loved their design language. Their cop bike is the best ever made too

  • @aussie1546
    @aussie1546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    comparing Pan Am to V85???? why not compare prices of those two, you can by two V85 for one Pan Am.
    Pan Am is up there in league, and cannot be cmpared to midclass. Compare Pan AM to super tenere, or GS1250, then you will see where you stand and what you get. V85 is awesome multi tool with retro and modern look at same time. Very outstanding bike

  • @two-up
    @two-up ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello great material very nice filmed ;)

  • @smallbobcat08o.g.47
    @smallbobcat08o.g.47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Spite. Good to see you hanging with Whitney too. Both of you are awesome.

  • @SummitCoyote
    @SummitCoyote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am not shocked that Whitney would get the BMW again. She sorta seems to have a fondness for odd and quirky bikes. I get the draw to kinda the less refined more mechanical raw feel. It is definitely a thing plenty of people enjoy. Me, between the two, the V85TT would win out I think for my personal interests.

  • @brantfurr986
    @brantfurr986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video... I've been shopping for a road-oriented adv bike, and the V85TT just keeps winning the mental wrestling match that is new bike shopping... It also helps that the base price includes luggage... the V85 is simple-ish to work on, is reportedly very comfortable, and a competent enough off-roader to easily explore gravel fire roads... If I'm going to ride trails, I'm going to take me EXC-F 500... everyone keeps trying to lump the V85 in the same category as the BMW F850, the KTM 890, and the Tigert 900, but really, I think it's more of a competitor with the V-Strom, the Versys, and the other pseudo-ADV bikes.
    Thanks for an enjoyable video, and it's given me plenty more to think about.
    Would you choose the V85TT over a V-Strom 1000?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Power wise the 85tt is comparable to the 800cc v-strom. In most cases the v85tt is down on power. Heavy, and expensive.

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it’s nothing like the 890 & crewe

    • @VictorLowther
      @VictorLowther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Power wise, it will cruise all day at 85 and break 100 in a pinch, so the V85TT is fine there. The handling and the shaft drive are where it is at.

    • @SlyBSer
      @SlyBSer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man I was having a very similar debate in my head while cross shopping ADV bikes. Ultimately the looks and charm of the V85 won me over and I pulled the trigger on one this last week!

    • @marekmroczkowski2775
      @marekmroczkowski2775 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SlyBSercongratulations! You not going to regret your decision, motto guzzi v85tt travel is awesome, more you raid more you will love it. Has unique looks and sound plus shaft drive, according to mechanical reviews new motto guzzi shaft drive is better than bmw.

  • @clarkgraves56
    @clarkgraves56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love seeing you and Whitney together!!

  • @bronsonscott
    @bronsonscott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    already at 100k subs keep it going bud !

  • @sportstermissions
    @sportstermissions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great chemistry, non cringey content. I don't know who the female is, but she comes off as a real biker and very knowledgable. I hate motovlogs with the women are just eye candy! Good job!

    • @smallbobcat08o.g.47
      @smallbobcat08o.g.47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They worked together at yammie noob before he fired spite.

    • @sportstermissions
      @sportstermissions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@smallbobcat08o.g.47 I have not watched yammie noob since the firing. Screw that guy.

    • @smallbobcat08o.g.47
      @smallbobcat08o.g.47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sportstermissions same. Lots of people feel that way.

  • @LannyGood
    @LannyGood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guzzi guy here, happy to see you get
    on one, was looking at v85 or v7 for my next bike after my breva, hope you do reviews of more

    • @stevensullivan3121
      @stevensullivan3121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      V85tt hands down, own one! Absolutely love it, coming from a 60 years rider, plus many worn out machines of every brand.

  • @buckymoto1784
    @buckymoto1784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I looked at both these bikes and chose the V85 cos I want to tour and green lane.

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the R9T UGS, and the engine is awesome, it power wheelies in 2nd gear very easily, loads of torque everywhere, sounds great even with stock exhaust. The only thing I felt was a disappointment was the budget suspensions that were just "ok" on road, offroad they were quite out of place.

  • @23headlines17
    @23headlines17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see you guys talk together

  • @kokilimonke
    @kokilimonke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Moto Guzzi is coming out with a new ADV next autumn. The Moto Guzzi V100 Stelvio, with the same water cooled engine that they have on the V100 Mandello