Cheif,before i watch,mad props for taking Billy Hoskinsons call late at night to help with a fuel issue,youve got plenty of folks saying that time with him at your house was a good mentoring and got him fired up to succed.Hs mom and dad are top notch great buckeyes lol,but again it was nice to see a guy "YOU" take the time to respond to the little guy looking for answers,and your guess was correct.have safe motoring and i watch all your videos to,even at 60 lol.
The block in my Malibu is a Speedmaster Cast Iron severe duty block with billet main caps. We’ve built 2 engines out of them and they held up very good.
Also, the Speedmaster block doesn’t require taller lifters. They use standard lifters. Easier to get when you need them, and they can come in and out without pulling the heads
Idk if them boys understand how lucky they are to have such great parents and friends and connections around them …? Why I would give just to have one person to call period… haha 😂 maybe 🤔 one day I can make some connections just to be able to ask questions… 😂… keep up keeping it real Justin and Jackie … Also the Old Man and all he does and the ppl they have around them … y’all are some of the best … 😅… “ASK ME “ 😂
Dam shame we don't build notta in this country, Tin valves were the rage in 80s 90s, hang in there chief, old street racer from Nashville, take care of yourself and neighbors
You two are really living the dream. I’m so happy to see you both in real life chasing your dreams. Go get it MWSC. CaddyJack will be right in no time.
Best comment section on YT, period! So much engagement. The genuine content + down to earth good people = the best kind of success on YT. Your fans will rally behind you when it counts. Appreciate the videos! Great work on the editing Jackie, it is already top notch and only getting better!
thank you! we try to stay connected in the comments, cause if you gonna watch the vid aaand you gonna take the time and energy to comment, the least we could do would be to read your comments and reply to as many as we can
Man I'm really digging these engine related episodes Chief and Jackie! Brings back some good old memories. If two bores side by side are both 4.185 on a std 4.400 bore CL sbc, that leaves .215 between the cyl to seal the head gasket, which is plenty AFAIK. Now bore one of the holes another .020 @ 4.205, you'd only have .010 less @ ~.205 between the cyl's. Bore stability becomes a real concern though and more so on nitrous. It would likely have pretty crappy ring seal under full power with the bores moving around. In my mind, a 4.185, 4.4 bore CL sbc would be questionable for a high power nitrous deal. If that block proves savable on the main line, I'd sleeve the 4.205 hole and fill the block up to the water pump holes min, as a band aid before it's honed. Better yet consider switching it to methanol and fill the block all the way up to the deck.
Chief, this guy is on the right track to sleeve over size cylinders. If your patching for now to put the money towards the rotating assy. Would be money well spent based on a Chinese block or any newer blocks. Love you and Jackie videos
I would not re-sleeve the 4.205 cylinder unless it's broken... this will disturb the cylinders on each side too much and make them worse. Filling is a good idea either water pump hole on gas or full deck on methanol. Use a diamond plateau hone finish if possible. Set 2nd ring +.005 over the top ring and just reuse old rings so you don't have to buy multiple sets. Don't be too worried if the rings end up on the big side with Nitrous . .035 top and .040 2nd still will be ok with good breather system. Try and get .0028 on main clearance and .0025 on the rods as close as you can. I'm still building race engines at 63 (40 years +)
@@supertunesupertune I'm sure his machinist would know how to finish the cylinders for whatever rings he decides to go with. Good point on the sleeves with siamese bores though. Sleeving could lead to disruption/distortion and weakening the interface/structural integrity of the adjacent bores. Seems we agree on filling the block though. Old retired guy here. Worked as a machinist in aerospace and ran an automotive machine shop. Built and dynoed my fair share of race engines over the years as well.
Being a serious animal lover. It's so cool to see how much you love animals as well. I've come to find in my years of living. That people who are animal lovers are really good people in general. Keep the videos coming.
I met chief in Bristol few years back he was busy as hell taken the rear end out of the crow and out of Sean's pile and went on to win against Byrd bros.just a throw back . chief and Jackie are great . wish the luck they're having would change here lately. Please keep up the great work I really enjoy seeing the content that is produced from producer Jackie😉
Glad it looks like it can b repaired even if it’s only for a little bit. Also thanks chief for being so helpful not only on your channel but helping billy and his family out is awesome! Can’t wait for the 2nd Tuesday of the week!
Ouch that looks expensive I hope you get it done I been watching you for 11 years and I’ll stay with you and Jackie stay safe cheers keep or Dragging and have fun catch ya ❤️💪🦘🇦🇺
Happy to see it’s getting done in a timely manner. Can’t wait to see you both out testing again. I bet it will produce some surprising numbers after all you found.
My favorite channel you tell it like it is no BS And you have a woman that is every man's dream not afraid to Work and get dirty great job to both of you
Thanks for telling the rest of the story...once those bearings straitened out the tangs and start to spin (who knows, bad line bore, too quick a rebuild job, clearances too tight or flat out not checked, rods not checked and resized after replacing rod bolts on the big end, or an unprimed startup in too cold weather when all the parts are shrunken to closest tolerances), the welding job began and extreme heat began radiating outward from 7 to 8, to Main 4 in a cascade eventually leading to the bent crank (no telling if it was bent slightly in a prior repair, not checked and just reused either), and each bore being differently fixed at different times (shown by the different bore sizes according to your detailed measuring), that block has been through hell and back a few times. Once he line bores it properly and balances the internals to match, new crank and hones the cylinders to custom match each piston overbore (since it appears you have the necessary pistons to correctly fill each hole, new rods and crank going in, and he only needs to match up 1 piston to bore as the other 7 are still appear useable from your inventory, and 1 main cap to repair, bearings and seals and reassembly and mild machining otherwise), it is a budget rebuild vs a new block and all new internals. It will be a fine spare in emergency use backup, you can quickly use for content while her other bullet waits for parts and to be completed, and get it again lined out, and know what it would do when and if you need to use it later. Hopefully the timing works perfectly for both of you this time, and it stays together, you get all motor pulls, a few spray pulls, a decent working tune that you can depend on and lots of data with no oiling issues. And that her parts come in and the other engine is completed in the meantime, so you can pull that 1 out whole and working, as I agree it may do even better than what it did since you already have a good data head start on the tune (as long as you pay strict attention to where that cam was installed last time...am sure you did keep great notes since you even re-checked rod clearances on the disassembly). Degreeing that cam to get close to the prior install will be key to using that prior data correctly as you know. He is right, proper balance of the reciprocating mass internally and proper clearances (main and rod bearings, piston to bore, ring gaps, etc), and that block will not even know the bores/pistons are all different sizes, though you will know if you do a compression check of each hole as combustion chambers at installed height heads on and torqued will vary slightly, though no more than a factory small block that has never been machined. Head combustion chambers that have received no work especially cast alum heads upon proper ccing will often show as much as a 2-3 cc difference between chambers, so there is that, and (I run a Stocker and we cannot touch the combustion head chamber at all, so no changing that mfg issue)...I have not done so on mine, but am sure since we can bore cylinder over to 80 thou over and still be within our ruleset before a block is out of compliance and unusable, but rest assured I am sure someone in the past has figured out the way to balance out the smaller head chamber cc issue to larger is to overbore only specific cylinders to even out and match cylinder to head volumes exactly on purpose and still stay within the very specific extreme ruleset we bought into and still take full advantage, where yours is just by former/current breakage and repair. Here is wishing your path on that repair is smooth for you both, and think you will already be getting showered with valves, call Billy and see what uncle Bob has on his shelves, as I am sure he has a bunch and may have just what you need.
Great video!! I'm always so scared of buying used stuff. Unfortunately sometimes it cost as much or more on the other end to get thing sorted out. Got to start somewhere i guess. I would be more than happy to fix your oil pan or build you a new one! I've been a welder/fabricator for pretty much 40 plus years. Thanks for the updates. Its cool to watch you guys on videos vs the old FB and Instagram days.
Hope y'all get that figured out brother. Dang can't find a woman like jacki these days she holds her own lol she picks up the block heck most woman these days can't pick up a mop are broom lol good luck interested in seeing what it was.
The lines in main journals are from tooling to center line in machine when u deck the block check deck hight .piston clearance to head, an valves. Circle track deck blocks to get comp. Cause they can't change piston in certain classes just something to think about .great video s can't wait for the next one God bless
ust a note. We have built many Chevy engines for circle track. That oiling problem you had is one that we fixed by drilling a hole with a #10 or #12 fitting in the front where an original small blocked off or possibly just a flat spot is there. This feeds the main oil gallery for the mains FROM THE FRONT (aka front oiling). We blocked off the passage from the filter housing area that feeds the rear of the motor first. Then put a filter adapter plate with a#10 or #12 fitting out to a remote filter with an in/out to the new fitting in the front of the motor. This feeds all the mains evenly. We also put in .060 restrictors from the mains feeding the cam bearings. This keeps more oil to the mains feeding the rods because the cam bearings don't need that much oil. Hope this helps you out....
Hey Big Chief love the video. You and Jackie and the cats always make me laugh 😂... Yeah another thing when you bore the cylinder over so much and I know you have to correct stuff but it can make the motor overheat because the cylinders get so thin. But I know you got to do what you got to do just to get by I feel you I wish I had some valves for you. God bless you Big Chief we love you brother 👍
Your perseverance and make it happen attitude will push you through any walls of adversity! I pray that your needs be met and your up and running in a few short days! God Bless you, Justin and Jackie!
Im sad to watch this video, Why?? Because now I'm all caught up from all the way back to the Out of alignment rear axle and torn up crank in the Corvette from last summer. You guys just make such great content. And make me laugh so hard with your banter back and forth with each other.
This video is why I watch this channel and mainly only this channel outside of my fishing channels.. Jackie and Chief are the most down to earth people on the interwebs and Chief, if I had valves that you needed I would send them to you without a thought. Unfortunately I am not into racing and i have none. But, I would if I had them. I truly hope that someone can come through for you on this. Content was great as always. I hope ya'll get this thing fixed soon because I miss watching Jackie smoke dem Hoosiers.....
@@justinshearer3016 If you are ever in South Carolina around Spartanburg, look me up and I'll take you fishing....got the call on my heads today $1,400 then I get my truck back on the road....YAY !!!
Absolutely love the wealth of knowledge you provide us with. I'm not a gear head but love watching your content. Still to this date the funniest video ever is when you and Shawn are comparing sparkplugs to soldiers . ROTGLMFAO everytime I watch it.
Hi Chief N Jacky! I was watching old rerun of you building Crow for Gas monkey challenge amazing how far you come shows persistence pays off. Caddy jack will be on top soon with you guys and friends hard work 💪 ❤️
I had a engine go bad 8000rpm 383, looks like the No. 2 main cap spun a bearing. Rod got a little hot, but bearings actually looked OK. Bought a new crank and had another block (mid 70s 350 4 bolt main) and had it machined to match the pistons. Best I can tell, the NO. 2 main cap walked a bit. The machine shop that did the new work likes to stake the caps to ensure they are tight so hopefully that doesn't happen again. So, $1200 or so to get the new block ready. $600 for a new chi-com crank. New rings, clean the pistons, check the rods.... I'm going to lower the rpms a bit and run a big block oil pump. BTW, the old crank looked good, probably could have been fixed .010 or .020 under - but I had it mag'd and it showed a crack right at the radius. It is now a boat anchor somewhere.
Back in my racing days. #1 cause for failure was oil starvation. I went to a sump system with external oil tank. two oil pumps. Pretty much eliminated my cavitation issue.
Another great video. Keep it up you two. It's nice to see that even the pros struggle. I've learned a ton about this sport watching the channel! Thank you for passing the knowledge down.
I had almost the exact same thing happen. I hung a rod thru the oil pan and drive the car on the trailer. Obviously a spun bearing similar to what you found. I started measuring the bearings. The thickness of the bearings where slightly off. Now the one that failed was toast and I couldn’t check it. My theory is some of the bearings didn’t have the clearance they should have. ( It was a bought short block that I didn’t build ).
Thanks for the mention justin. I do know an engine. Being an award winning machinist and my first car was a 1972 gran torino sport. They made 888 of them.at 14 years old Mine wasnt the cobra jet 429. I had the c4 transmission and a high output 302 with a 4 barrel. It had 57000 original miles was pearl white. Needed new valve seats. It smoked like a banshee. My first truck was a 1983 chevy Silverado short wheel base 2wheel drive. Black all original it had the beauty rails amd beauty rings and got about 10 mpg with a 305. I've always worked on engines small and large from tearing my fathers 25 horse Johnson tiller handle boat motor apart one day when he was st work at the age of 4 or 5. You could say I've always been intrested in analyzing the internals and how they work in an engine. I work on all types. Most people dont know the difference in a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. They think one you just add oil to the fuel or that they got powerbands in them actually a band lol or they dont have valves only ports. Well that's not always the case. My 353 Detroit 3 cylinder diesel engine in my skidder. Is actually a 2 stroke diesel with a blower and it has valves and camshaft all the other parts a 4 stroke diesel say a Cummins 6bt would have. Only engines I'm not hands on familiar with is the rotary engine or the turbine engine and some other exotic engines that are out there. If you can envision it you can make it our very creative creations all spring from imagination. I love the in depth video's talking about tolerance and clearance I nerd out on that shit. What I really need is an invitation from yall to come and help and be apart of the building and the work to wear my talents and skills can be of value and of use in something that matter's instead of a small logging operation that is one day going to get me killed. Cant wait for another video godbless
Great video. I am surprised Billy Jr or the old Man don't have any extra valves... I am sure you have asked them already. Chief & Jackie you 2 love birds crack me up sometimes. Some of the shit you 2 say. Anyway Thank you for sharing.
Right all the stuff Billy bought when trying to get ready for Mega Cash Days he had 2 or 3 aluminium blocks with wrong heads I bet if The Old man Diggs thru his stuff he got something cheif could use.
Loving these videos, excellent content. Always look forward to catching the next one, looking forward to seeing the Caddy back on the strip.And oh ya, it’s awesome when you tell jokes🤣🤣👍
Hi Jackie an chief how do I go about getting merchandise from you guys y’all are my favorite racers I love the crow an caddy bad asf chief lucky have Jackie she took him to another level plus she loves work on cars much as chief that’s really awesome
Looks like a rod bolt backing out and peeled the cap back. IDK how but no broken bolt and seeing the shape of what’s left that’s what it looks like. No bolt is getting pulled out of a rod without splitting and leaving threads.
Awesome video as usual and i have one question or just a wish PLEASE TEST CADDY JACK AND THE VETTE TOGETHER ONCE THE ENGINE IS FIXED Just a small race perhaps.
Only sure way to prevent it from happening, is sell it or leave it in the garage, but what fun would that be. You roll the dice every time you fire one up, pull to the burnout box, and do what you do. Keep the videos coming, keep your chin up, and let's et eat.
I run Canton cylinder that hold 2 quarts of oil under pressure for cold start and for when parachute used to cover oil starvation from oil thrown away from oil pickup. Simply and works for saving bearings giving twice bearings life for me.
13:20 - Birds chirping, *crows a crowing* , (my add), . Good chuckles - Thank you. Wishing better main journal oiling and good reliable parts during the rebuilt engine runs.
Miss Jackie! I'm gonna send my wife out to okla to be your shadow for a few weeks!!! She definitely needs some "help your husband load the engine block" training!!!! Nice to have a partner with similar interest.
Sorry to say, oil starvation caused this chain of events. #4 is the last to get oil. You starve #4 main to the point of Bronze, you kill #7 rod. Once the rod bearing disintegrates, the piston travels further in both directions. Now it's hitting the counterweights at BDC and valves and the cylinder head at TDC. If it doesn't rip the pin out of the piston on the bottom, it will hit the head on the compression stroke to the point it wants to stop the crank in it's tracks, bends the crank, and ejecto-mundo the rod. Especially at rpm. During overlap, It hits the open valve to the point of wanting to push it back up through the rocker and snaps the tips off the aluminum rockers. With steel rockers, it wants to bend pushrods...It doesn't take much for all of this to happen, as you were aware of when it first starting "acting" different. Will always give clues. Snowball effect, it all stemmed from starving #4 main. If it happened just like this before you got it, and it happened again while you have it, the issue lies in the current oil system. A few things I look for when I see this: -How much oil is being run? -Oil drainback. -Returns at the back of the heads? -Return in the valley? -Windage tray? And if so, ample return to the pickup? -is the pickup isolated in the pan? -Type of pump? Geroter or spur gear? -Windage -Aeration due to Windage or too much oil? -How much vacuum is being pulled at rpm? Oil pressure doesn't equal oil volume. 2 different things. Checking oil pressure at the back of the engine doesn't tell the whole story of what's going on up front. As for the block. It's very common for guys running nitrous to have slightly different bore sizes, as they only repair what is needed at the time of failure. It has seen it's fair share. However, wall thickness is NOT the issue with these blocks, as they are usually .250" thick at 4.200". I build A LOT of big inch small blocks at that bore and larger. At 4.250", they are still about .200" thick, which is plenty. Don't ever go by the "recommended" max bore size. BUT, the issue becomes sealing area for the gasket. BIG nitrous, you don't want a lot less than about .200" between cylinders. It also depends on how you are sealing it. A good setup can see roughly .185"-.190" before you start having real issues. 4.210" is the limit with nitrous for me, a small block at 4.250" is the limit for NA in a 4.400" bs block. Boost is where you really limit the bore for gasket sealing benefits.
Man I know u probably hear this alot but miss seeing ya on the outlaws one of my favorite racers , cause u say it how it is no bootlicking. Be safe friend
Well I have not had a chance to read all the comments so somebody may have come up with a similar response but from what I can see due to that being the rear Rod that gets hotter than any of them and I'm wondering if maybe you need clearances were too tight and just like you're saying and oiling issues inside the crankshaft where to get overly hot swelling up and caused it to overheat
Chief, the bore spacing really sounds off, and the oil issue sounds like the motor may need a different kind of racing oil cause, correct me if I'm wrong different race oils have a different viscosity ratio right ?
Spun the main bearing slowed the oil to rod dont takes long to seize a rod especially if the rod bearing was a little tight and that Jackie john force burnout didn't help either lol that thing will pick up a good bit I believe
Man I just glad y’all back or I just found you again. Love watching you and Jackie working together getting alone hanging out. I’m from S W Ga keep it up
Good luck guys!Big fan for years! Love what you guys are doing. Thanks for sharing Glad that you have more time to do so Quick question do you believe in Breaking in the rebuilt engine?
if we install new rings, ill have her put it on the brake a couple times to load the rings and use non synthetic oil for the first trip out. My usual break in procedure for drag racing engines is start it up and put it on the brake a few times, and its ready to pull the trigger
Love watching your videos , IMO I think the problem is coming from the screen door cylinder , it obviously was blowing the oil back in the oil gally causing loss of oil on the bearing and burning up , the other bearings were unaffected because of the extra pressure . Let that soak in , or not
HI HOW DO I GET YOUR CAR YOU SIGNED ? PLUS WAS THE ENGINE STEAMED BE FORE REBUILD ? AND BRUSHED ALL GALLEYS ? I HAVE WATCHED YOU ON YOUR SHOWS !! IF YOU CHANGE HEADS GO TO SPLADE HEADS FOR CHEVY OR DARTS HEADS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THEM . BUT WILL NEED SHEET METAL INTAKE . THEY ARE THE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE BIG BLOCK CHEVY FOR SMALL BLOCK CHEVY KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING .
great content, reminded me of me trying my first build.Had what I was told was a 351M. Got a rebuild kit. Put everything together n turned the key. Heard a load klunk n nothing. Found out a 351M crank will mess up a 351W block n piston n pushrods.
Unfortunately there are a lot of engine shops that think they have a clue but dont. Add to that the ".001 of clearance is plenty" crowd and you have disaster in a cast iron box. Did you check ring gap? Is the block o-ringed? That would help with sealing between cylinders. Figure 8 with a single wire between the cylinders.
@justinshearer3016 if its that thin I dont see any gasket preventing cylinder crossover once you start to really spray it. And once it starts its just going to blow torch the block. I know its not in the budget for another block and pistons but spending money on the current one may just be the same as lighting it on fire, lol!
I'm pretty sure that small block will perform well once she's rebuilt. It doesn't sound all that bad. I was expecting worse initially tbh. I hope you get the parts you need soon because I really want to see how she's going to run this time around. I think it will surprise some folks! I can't wait until you've got Caddy Jack where you want it to be. I'm really looking forward to the street action! Loving the content guys, keep it coming! #midweststreetcats 🐈
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Cheif,before i watch,mad props for taking Billy Hoskinsons call late at night to help with a fuel issue,youve got plenty of folks saying that time with him at your house was a good mentoring and got him fired up to succed.Hs mom and dad are top notch great buckeyes lol,but again it was nice to see a guy "YOU" take the time to respond to the little guy looking for answers,and your guess was correct.have safe motoring and i watch all your videos to,even at 60 lol.
Agreed!
Billy still have that devil woman around that tried to rip his family apart?
i am a billy th3 kid fan
I thought it was hilarious that Tommy put a pic of Chief from Pinks LMAO 🤦🏻😆😂 Was just classic.
and im a fan of tommy also but dont tell him that he will get all big headed lol
The block in my Malibu is a Speedmaster Cast Iron severe duty block with billet main caps. We’ve built 2 engines out of them and they held up very good.
Also, the Speedmaster block doesn’t require taller lifters. They use standard lifters. Easier to get when you need them, and they can come in and out without pulling the heads
seeeee....thats what im sayin
4+ digit power tho?
Idk if them boys understand how lucky they are to have such great parents and friends and connections around them …? Why I would give just to have one person to call period… haha 😂 maybe 🤔 one day I can make some connections just to be able to ask questions… 😂… keep up keeping it real Justin and Jackie … Also the Old Man and all he does and the ppl they have around them … y’all are some of the best … 😅… “ASK ME “ 😂
Stock original 32k speed master block right bill
Dam shame we don't build notta in this country, Tin valves were the rage in 80s 90s, hang in there chief, old street racer from Nashville, take care of yourself and neighbors
Lol that dog wants chief's attention! Just watched Billy channel and it was cool you helped him out !
You two are really living the dream. I’m so happy to see you both in real life chasing your dreams. Go get it MWSC. CaddyJack will be right in no time.
thank you chris! we appreciate it!
Hahaahaa I immediately stopped exactly at 2.32 when I heard that, what a reaction!!!! Ok now I'll watch the rest! Thanks for the walk through!!!
Best comment section on YT, period! So much engagement. The genuine content + down to earth good people = the best kind of success on YT. Your fans will rally behind you when it counts. Appreciate the videos! Great work on the editing Jackie, it is already top notch and only getting better!
thank you! we try to stay connected in the comments, cause if you gonna watch the vid aaand you gonna take the time and energy to comment, the least we could do would be to read your comments and reply to as many as we can
@@justinshearer3016 just made my day sir! long time fan and listener #83
Thank you for being so kind to animals. I loved the chonky machine shop pooch
Love how often y’all have been posting videos! I have faith we’ll see Jackie making hits in caddy jack again soon.
Man I'm really digging these engine related episodes Chief and Jackie! Brings back some good old memories.
If two bores side by side are both 4.185 on a std 4.400 bore CL sbc, that leaves .215 between the cyl to seal the head gasket, which is plenty AFAIK. Now bore one of the holes another .020 @ 4.205, you'd only have .010 less @ ~.205 between the cyl's.
Bore stability becomes a real concern though and more so on nitrous. It would likely have pretty crappy ring seal under full power with the bores moving around. In my mind, a 4.185, 4.4 bore CL sbc would be questionable for a high power nitrous deal.
If that block proves savable on the main line, I'd sleeve the 4.205 hole and fill the block up to the water pump holes min, as a band aid before it's honed. Better yet consider switching it to methanol and fill the block all the way up to the deck.
Chief, this guy is on the right track to sleeve over size cylinders. If your patching for now to put the money towards the rotating assy. Would be money well spent based on a Chinese block or any newer blocks. Love you and Jackie videos
I would not re-sleeve the 4.205 cylinder unless it's broken... this will disturb the cylinders on each side too much and make them worse.
Filling is a good idea either water pump hole on gas or full deck on methanol. Use a diamond plateau hone finish if possible. Set 2nd ring +.005 over the top ring and just reuse old rings so you don't have to buy multiple sets. Don't be too worried if the rings end up on the big side with Nitrous . .035 top and .040 2nd still will be ok with good breather system. Try and get .0028 on main clearance and .0025 on the rods as close as you can. I'm still building race engines at 63 (40 years +)
@@supertunesupertune I'm sure his machinist would know how to finish the cylinders for whatever rings he decides to go with.
Good point on the sleeves with siamese bores though. Sleeving could lead to disruption/distortion and weakening the interface/structural integrity of the adjacent bores.
Seems we agree on filling the block though.
Old retired guy here. Worked as a machinist in aerospace and ran an automotive machine shop. Built and dynoed my fair share of race engines over the years as well.
This is the big chief we all wanted! Awesome content, love the back and forth with src as well!! Too funny!!
Aww! The doggie was so happy to see you! ❤
Good video , props to the little lady , sticking in there , your a lucky man !!
Being a serious animal lover. It's so cool to see how much you love animals as well. I've come to find in my years of living. That people who are animal lovers are really good people in general. Keep the videos coming.
This engine opened up the eyes to exactly what block you actually need, just love the content
Thanks for the video comment update
I met chief in Bristol few years back he was busy as hell taken the rear end out of the crow and out of Sean's pile and went on to win against Byrd bros.just a throw back . chief and Jackie are great . wish the luck they're having would change here lately. Please keep up the great work I really enjoy seeing the content that is produced from producer Jackie😉
Glad it looks like it can b repaired even if it’s only for a little bit. Also thanks chief for being so helpful not only on your channel but helping billy and his family out is awesome! Can’t wait for the 2nd Tuesday of the week!
Hi Jackie, Chief, I'm getting spoiled on tuesday's and thursday's for your videos. Hope these repairs are fast don't cost too much. Thanks guys!!!!
Ouch that looks expensive I hope you get it done I been watching you for 11 years and I’ll stay with you and Jackie stay safe cheers keep or Dragging and have fun catch ya ❤️💪🦘🇦🇺
Happy to see it’s getting done in a timely manner. Can’t wait to see you both out testing again. I bet it will produce some surprising numbers after all you found.
Animals know kind people, that dog and your cats love you guys
My favorite channel you tell it like it is no BS And you have a woman that is every man's dream not afraid to Work and get dirty great job to both of you
yaaa buddy
And beautiful
Thanks for telling the rest of the story...once those bearings straitened out the tangs and start to spin (who knows, bad line bore, too quick a rebuild job, clearances too tight or flat out not checked, rods not checked and resized after replacing rod bolts on the big end, or an unprimed startup in too cold weather when all the parts are shrunken to closest tolerances), the welding job began and extreme heat began radiating outward from 7 to 8, to Main 4 in a cascade eventually leading to the bent crank (no telling if it was bent slightly in a prior repair, not checked and just reused either), and each bore being differently fixed at different times (shown by the different bore sizes according to your detailed measuring), that block has been through hell and back a few times.
Once he line bores it properly and balances the internals to match, new crank and hones the cylinders to custom match each piston overbore (since it appears you have the necessary pistons to correctly fill each hole, new rods and crank going in, and he only needs to match up 1 piston to bore as the other 7 are still appear useable from your inventory, and 1 main cap to repair, bearings and seals and reassembly and mild machining otherwise), it is a budget rebuild vs a new block and all new internals.
It will be a fine spare in emergency use backup, you can quickly use for content while her other bullet waits for parts and to be completed, and get it again lined out, and know what it would do when and if you need to use it later.
Hopefully the timing works perfectly for both of you this time, and it stays together, you get all motor pulls, a few spray pulls, a decent working tune that you can depend on and lots of data with no oiling issues. And that her parts come in and the other engine is completed in the meantime, so you can pull that 1 out whole and working, as I agree it may do even better than what it did since you already have a good data head start on the tune (as long as you pay strict attention to where that cam was installed last time...am sure you did keep great notes since you even re-checked rod clearances on the disassembly).
Degreeing that cam to get close to the prior install will be key to using that prior data correctly as you know. He is right, proper balance of the reciprocating mass internally and proper clearances (main and rod bearings, piston to bore, ring gaps, etc), and that block will not even know the bores/pistons are all different sizes, though you will know if you do a compression check of each hole as combustion chambers at installed height heads on and torqued will vary slightly, though no more than a factory small block that has never been machined.
Head combustion chambers that have received no work especially cast alum heads upon proper ccing will often show as much as a 2-3 cc difference between chambers, so there is that, and (I run a Stocker and we cannot touch the combustion head chamber at all, so no changing that mfg issue)...I have not done so on mine, but am sure since we can bore cylinder over to 80 thou over and still be within our ruleset before a block is out of compliance and unusable, but rest assured I am sure someone in the past has figured out the way to balance out the smaller head chamber cc issue to larger is to overbore only specific cylinders to even out and match cylinder to head volumes exactly on purpose and still stay within the very specific extreme ruleset we bought into and still take full advantage, where yours is just by former/current breakage and repair.
Here is wishing your path on that repair is smooth for you both, and think you will already be getting showered with valves, call Billy and see what uncle Bob has on his shelves, as I am sure he has a bunch and may have just what you need.
Great video!! I'm always so scared of buying used stuff. Unfortunately sometimes it cost as much or more on the other end to get thing sorted out. Got to start somewhere i guess. I would be more than happy to fix your oil pan or build you a new one! I've been a welder/fabricator for pretty much 40 plus years. Thanks for the updates. Its cool to watch you guys on videos vs the old FB and Instagram days.
Great video, Chief. Some great explanation of what's going in with the engine.👍
U can't believe how much I enjoy watching you. U and Jacki make my day alot better. God bless both of u 4 taking the time 2 do this.
oh i bet you say that to all the gals
@@justinshearer3016 naw just u, an Jacki. But that street racing channel got some nice content 2. Not as pretty as you an Jacki tho. Close.
Hope y'all get that figured out brother. Dang can't find a woman like jacki these days she holds her own lol she picks up the block heck most woman these days can't pick up a mop are broom lol good luck interested in seeing what it was.
Keep us posted bud. Thanks so much for sharing.
Wow I am loving the engine breakdown videos. Thanks for sharing.
Life kicked me in the b@lls today. Thank you very much for the smiles. Wishing the best for all yall
The lines in main journals are from tooling to center line in machine when u deck the block check deck hight .piston clearance to head, an valves. Circle track deck blocks to get comp. Cause they can't change piston in certain classes just something to think about .great video s can't wait for the next one God bless
"gave it one hell of an Indian wrist burn or whatever" I literally laughed my ass off at this 🤣
When Chief said “yeah I need a lot of things” I felt that 😂
Chief cracks me up! We’re on max max!!! I’m glad you guys can have a laugh when it’s all looking sad!
Good work and thank you for the updates. You will get it right and show everyone what it takes to make a competitive race car.
I love hearing you say "this deal" I wish whatever issue could be resolved I would love to see u back on the show with the gang
I'm laughing so hard I can't listen but big Chief has figured it out but you guys are wonderful and beautiful
ust a note. We have built many Chevy engines for circle track. That oiling problem you had is one that we fixed by drilling a hole with a #10 or #12 fitting in the front where an original small blocked off or possibly just a flat spot is there. This feeds the main oil gallery for the mains FROM THE FRONT (aka front oiling). We blocked off the passage from the filter housing area that feeds the rear of the motor first. Then put a filter adapter plate with a#10 or #12 fitting out to a remote filter with an in/out to the new fitting in the front of the motor. This feeds all the mains evenly. We also put in .060 restrictors from the mains feeding the cam bearings. This keeps more oil to the mains feeding the rods because the cam bearings don't need that much oil. Hope this helps you out....
Love getting all the tech updates. Keep up the great videos
Hope y'all get everything back together with no issues bro I really enjoyed the show keep them coming.
Hey Big Chief love the video. You and Jackie and the cats always make me laugh 😂... Yeah another thing when you bore the cylinder over so much and I know you have to correct stuff but it can make the motor overheat because the cylinders get so thin. But I know you got to do what you got to do just to get by I feel you I wish I had some valves for you. God bless you Big Chief we love you brother 👍
Your perseverance and make it happen attitude will push you through any walls of adversity! I pray that your needs be met and your up and running in a few short days! God Bless you, Justin and Jackie!
Gotta love callies stuff. They always come back faster and stronger
Im sad to watch this video, Why?? Because now I'm all caught up from all the way back to the Out of alignment rear axle and torn up crank in the Corvette from last summer. You guys just make such great content. And make me laugh so hard with your banter back and forth with each other.
This video is why I watch this channel and mainly only this channel outside of my fishing channels.. Jackie and Chief are the most down to earth people on the interwebs and Chief, if I had valves that you needed I would send them to you without a thought. Unfortunately I am not into racing and i have none. But, I would if I had them. I truly hope that someone can come through for you on this. Content was great as always. I hope ya'll get this thing fixed soon because I miss watching Jackie smoke dem Hoosiers.....
thanks man!!!! i watch a couple of fishing channels myself from time to time lol....after this deal i might take up fishing lol
@@justinshearer3016 If you are ever in South Carolina around Spartanburg, look me up and I'll take you fishing....got the call on my heads today $1,400 then I get my truck back on the road....YAY !!!
Absolutely love the wealth of knowledge you provide us with. I'm not a gear head but love watching your content. Still to this date the funniest video ever is when you and Shawn are comparing sparkplugs to soldiers .
ROTGLMFAO everytime I watch it.
My old lady loves throwing a hotdog down the hallway 😂. Great vid guys🤠
Hi Chief N Jacky! I was watching old rerun of you building Crow for Gas monkey challenge amazing how far you come shows persistence pays off. Caddy jack will be on top soon with you guys and friends hard work 💪 ❤️
Thanks, for bringing us on this journey. Can't wait to see the car back on the road soon.
I had a engine go bad 8000rpm 383, looks like the No. 2 main cap spun a bearing. Rod got a little hot, but bearings actually looked OK. Bought a new crank and had another block (mid 70s 350 4 bolt main) and had it machined to match the pistons. Best I can tell, the NO. 2 main cap walked a bit. The machine shop that did the new work likes to stake the caps to ensure they are tight so hopefully that doesn't happen again. So, $1200 or so to get the new block ready. $600 for a new chi-com crank. New rings, clean the pistons, check the rods....
I'm going to lower the rpms a bit and run a big block oil pump.
BTW, the old crank looked good, probably could have been fixed .010 or .020 under - but I had it mag'd and it showed a crack right at the radius. It is now a boat anchor somewhere.
All the luck in the world to you and Jackie on your engine. Hope to see you racing soon.
Killing it on the vid’s taking up bill an Billy’s slack too keep it up chief an Jackie
Back in my racing days. #1 cause for failure was oil starvation. I went to a sump system with external oil tank. two oil pumps. Pretty much eliminated my cavitation issue.
Chief and Jackie y'all rock! Love the channel and content! Peace
Another great video. Keep it up you two. It's nice to see that even the pros struggle. I've learned a ton about this sport watching the channel! Thank you for passing the knowledge down.
I had almost the exact same thing happen. I hung a rod thru the oil pan and drive the car on the trailer. Obviously a spun bearing similar to what you found. I started measuring the bearings. The thickness of the bearings where slightly off. Now the one that failed was toast and I couldn’t check it. My theory is some of the bearings didn’t have the clearance they should have. ( It was a bought short block that I didn’t build ).
i don't know anything about engines, i just come here to see chief.
and to have an ice cold sodi pop....big fan homie!
Thanks for the mention justin. I do know an engine. Being an award winning machinist and my first car was a 1972 gran torino sport. They made 888 of them.at 14 years old Mine wasnt the cobra jet 429. I had the c4 transmission and a high output 302 with a 4 barrel. It had 57000 original miles was pearl white. Needed new valve seats. It smoked like a banshee. My first truck was a 1983 chevy Silverado short wheel base 2wheel drive. Black all original it had the beauty rails amd beauty rings and got about 10 mpg with a 305. I've always worked on engines small and large from tearing my fathers 25 horse Johnson tiller handle boat motor apart one day when he was st work at the age of 4 or 5. You could say I've always been intrested in analyzing the internals and how they work in an engine. I work on all types. Most people dont know the difference in a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. They think one you just add oil to the fuel or that they got powerbands in them actually a band lol or they dont have valves only ports. Well that's not always the case. My 353 Detroit 3 cylinder diesel engine in my skidder. Is actually a 2 stroke diesel with a blower and it has valves and camshaft all the other parts a 4 stroke diesel say a Cummins 6bt would have. Only engines I'm not hands on familiar with is the rotary engine or the turbine engine and some other exotic engines that are out there. If you can envision it you can make it our very creative creations all spring from imagination. I love the in depth video's talking about tolerance and clearance I nerd out on that shit. What I really need is an invitation from yall to come and help and be apart of the building and the work to wear my talents and skills can be of value and of use in something that matter's instead of a small logging operation that is one day going to get me killed. Cant wait for another video godbless
Chief love the show. I have learned a lot from this show thanks. Semper Fi
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Hooah!
Love these videos, I always learn something. Thank you.
Great video. I am surprised Billy Jr or the old Man don't have any extra valves... I am sure you have asked them already. Chief & Jackie you 2 love birds crack me up sometimes. Some of the shit you 2 say. Anyway Thank you for sharing.
Right all the stuff Billy bought when trying to get ready for Mega Cash Days he had 2 or 3 aluminium blocks with wrong heads I bet if The Old man Diggs thru his stuff he got something cheif could use.
Loving these videos, excellent content. Always look forward to catching the next one, looking forward to seeing the Caddy back on the strip.And oh ya, it’s awesome when you tell jokes🤣🤣👍
Jackie an chief are the best love watching all there content
Hi Jackie an chief how do I go about getting merchandise from you guys y’all are my favorite racers I love the crow an caddy bad asf chief lucky have Jackie she took him to another level plus she loves work on cars much as chief that’s really awesome
Looks like a rod bolt backing out and peeled the cap back. IDK how but no broken bolt and seeing the shape of what’s left that’s what it looks like. No bolt is getting pulled out of a rod without splitting and leaving threads.
Awesome video as usual and i have one question or just a wish
PLEASE TEST CADDY JACK AND THE VETTE TOGETHER ONCE THE ENGINE IS FIXED
Just a small race perhaps.
I have a carbureted 283 that identifies as a 550 inch Donavan mechanically injected hemi, # the struggle is real
You guys are so lucky to have Gerald. Cant wait to see Caddyjack up and running again
Love your videos man keep cranking them out imma keep watching
COOL VIDEO CHIEF AND JACKIE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE ENGINE BACK IN THE CAR SEE YOU NEXT TIME STAY SAFE
Only sure way to prevent it from happening, is sell it or leave it in the garage, but what fun would that be. You roll the dice every time you fire one up, pull to the burnout box, and do what you do. Keep the videos coming, keep your chin up, and let's et eat.
true dat!
Man if you have to put that other converter in, omg. You guys rock!
I run Canton cylinder that hold 2 quarts of oil under pressure for cold start and for when parachute used to cover oil starvation from oil thrown away from oil pickup. Simply and works for saving bearings giving twice bearings life for me.
Love the videos miss you on outlaws hope you can come back someday
I think push rod length rocker geometry needed a bit tighter cuz hi rpm gna expand dramatically
13:20 - Birds chirping, *crows a crowing* , (my add), . Good chuckles - Thank you. Wishing better main journal oiling and good reliable parts during the rebuilt engine runs.
Miss Jackie! I'm gonna send my wife out to okla to be your shadow for a few weeks!!! She definitely needs some "help your husband load the engine block" training!!!! Nice to have a partner with similar interest.
Love to hear you talk about converters, staters and the different applications and such. Great Content BTW! Bye :)
Sorry to say, oil starvation caused this chain of events. #4 is the last to get oil. You starve #4 main to the point of Bronze, you kill #7 rod. Once the rod bearing disintegrates, the piston travels further in both directions. Now it's hitting the counterweights at BDC and valves and the cylinder head at TDC. If it doesn't rip the pin out of the piston on the bottom, it will hit the head on the compression stroke to the point it wants to stop the crank in it's tracks, bends the crank, and ejecto-mundo the rod. Especially at rpm. During overlap, It hits the open valve to the point of wanting to push it back up through the rocker and snaps the tips off the aluminum rockers. With steel rockers, it wants to bend pushrods...It doesn't take much for all of this to happen, as you were aware of when it first starting "acting" different. Will always give clues. Snowball effect, it all stemmed from starving #4 main.
If it happened just like this before you got it, and it happened again while you have it, the issue lies in the current oil system. A few things I look for when I see this:
-How much oil is being run?
-Oil drainback.
-Returns at the back of the heads?
-Return in the valley?
-Windage tray? And if so, ample return to the pickup?
-is the pickup isolated in the pan?
-Type of pump? Geroter or spur gear?
-Windage
-Aeration due to Windage or too much oil?
-How much vacuum is being pulled at rpm?
Oil pressure doesn't equal oil volume. 2 different things. Checking oil pressure at the back of the engine doesn't tell the whole story of what's going on up front.
As for the block. It's very common for guys running nitrous to have slightly different bore sizes, as they only repair what is needed at the time of failure. It has seen it's fair share. However, wall thickness is NOT the issue with these blocks, as they are usually .250" thick at 4.200". I build A LOT of big inch small blocks at that bore and larger. At 4.250", they are still about .200" thick, which is plenty. Don't ever go by the "recommended" max bore size. BUT, the issue becomes sealing area for the gasket. BIG nitrous, you don't want a lot less than about .200" between cylinders. It also depends on how you are sealing it. A good setup can see roughly .185"-.190" before you start having real issues. 4.210" is the limit with nitrous for me, a small block at 4.250" is the limit for NA in a 4.400" bs block. Boost is where you really limit the bore for gasket sealing benefits.
if there is a head on the nail, you just sunk it dead center!!! thank you for all of that info and the time it took to write it up!
@@MidwestStreetCarsAuto Very welcome. As long as someone reading it can learn even a little something, then it's time well spent. Happy to help.
Rock n Roll guy's, good stuff man! I myself cannot wait to see Jackie's motor in that deal, God that's gonna be a bad azz nitrous rig for sure!
Man I know u probably hear this alot but miss seeing ya on the outlaws one of my favorite racers , cause u say it how it is no bootlicking. Be safe friend
Well I have not had a chance to read all the comments so somebody may have come up with a similar response but from what I can see due to that being the rear Rod that gets hotter than any of them and I'm wondering if maybe you need clearances were too tight and just like you're saying and oiling issues inside the crankshaft where to get overly hot swelling up and caused it to overheat
Chief, the bore spacing really sounds off, and the oil issue sounds like the motor may need a different kind of racing oil cause, correct me if I'm wrong different race oils have a different viscosity ratio right ?
I look forward to every video.....thanks for the updates
Thanks again Chief
Spun the main bearing slowed the oil to rod dont takes long to seize a rod especially if the rod bearing was a little tight and that Jackie john force burnout didn't help either lol that thing will pick up a good bit I believe
Looks like you guys will have the motor back together in no time. Should pick up some time at the track. Thanks for the video. Love the content.
I am learning so much from these videos!
I hope you show the welding and fabrication on the oil pan???
Man I just glad y’all back or I just found you again. Love watching you and Jackie working together getting alone hanging out. I’m from S W Ga keep it up
You guys are awesome keep sending videos they are interesting 🚦
Good luck guys!Big fan for years! Love what you guys are doing. Thanks for sharing Glad that you have more time to do so Quick question do you believe in Breaking in the rebuilt engine?
if we install new rings, ill have her put it on the brake a couple times to load the rings and use non synthetic oil for the first trip out. My usual break in procedure for drag racing engines is start it up and put it on the brake a few times, and its ready to pull the trigger
Love watching your videos , IMO I think the problem is coming from the screen door cylinder , it obviously was blowing the oil back in the oil gally causing loss of oil on the bearing and burning up , the other bearings were unaffected because of the extra pressure . Let that soak in , or not
HI HOW DO I GET YOUR CAR YOU SIGNED ? PLUS WAS THE ENGINE STEAMED BE FORE REBUILD ? AND BRUSHED ALL GALLEYS ? I HAVE WATCHED YOU ON YOUR SHOWS !! IF YOU CHANGE HEADS GO TO SPLADE HEADS FOR CHEVY OR DARTS HEADS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THEM . BUT WILL NEED SHEET METAL INTAKE . THEY ARE THE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE BIG BLOCK CHEVY FOR SMALL BLOCK CHEVY KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING .
Jackie don't go straining to hard. You gonna bust out those jeans! 😂
I don't think they will post that video if it happens...just sayin'.
great content, reminded me of me trying my first build.Had what I was told was a 351M. Got a rebuild kit. Put everything together n turned the key. Heard a load klunk n nothing. Found out a 351M crank will mess up a 351W block n piston n pushrods.
Oh yeah, much larger counterweight size!
Another great video,Thanks Guys. And best of luck finding the parts u need, hopefully it isn't to hard to get those valves. Thanks
Unfortunately there are a lot of engine shops that think they have a clue but dont. Add to that the ".001 of clearance is plenty" crowd and you have disaster in a cast iron box.
Did you check ring gap?
Is the block o-ringed? That would help with sealing between cylinders. Figure 8 with a single wire between the cylinders.
not oringed.....heck im not even sure we could fit orings between the cylinders lol
@justinshearer3016 if its that thin I dont see any gasket preventing cylinder crossover once you start to really spray it. And once it starts its just going to blow torch the block.
I know its not in the budget for another block and pistons but spending money on the current one may just be the same as lighting it on fire, lol!
We had cranks bow real bad on out top alcohol motors . But we ran billet aluminum blocks so we had the mains welded and recut.
The truck tag is classic! Love it. 😂😂keep the videos coming.
good catch lol....in oklahoma lots of folks get what it means but you go anywhere else and nobody gets it lol
I don’t get it, from
Australia haha
really cool
@@justinshearer3016 please explain for the Florida rednecks out there I thought it was a NoTime thing
@@danielsimpson6641 its cherokee for man who walks with no watch
I'm pretty sure that small block will perform well once she's rebuilt. It doesn't sound all that bad. I was expecting worse initially tbh. I hope you get the parts you need soon because I really want to see how she's going to run this time around. I think it will surprise some folks!
I can't wait until you've got Caddy Jack where you want it to be. I'm really looking forward to the street action! Loving the content guys, keep it coming!
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