Inlay End Grain Boards - Lessons Learned - 316
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I get way more value from your honesty in explaining mistakes than I do from some channels' over-produced, idealized versions of projects. Perhaps some people prefer the fake image of flawlessness - I prefer realism. Please keep making these types of videos.
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I agree!! Thanks for sharing!
I doubt I could make woodworking videos with real "realism". Every other word is a curse word. Tools do get thrown or slammed down. The occasional project even gets kicked. When on the rare instance things to go right its all smiles and sunshine......till I F it up doing that "last little thing".
@@SW-zu7ve That sounds like me ! LOL
I sincerely appreciate the work you put into teaching others. Wasn’t too long ago you were roughing it in the garage like us common folk 😂. It’s great to see you grow and share your experience, not just mindless copy/paste clickbait. You and a few others have been a huge part of my growth and I hope to pay it forward as I’m able. Thanks 🙏
I applaud your patience and the finished end grain looks amazing. Thanks for sharing the process!
What I learn the most from doing things myself is that it will always take at least 10X longer than they guy on TH-cam makes it look. Thanks, Jay!
The magic of editing. 🙂
OH brother!!!
True, I saw a guy on youtube build a house in an hour. I went out and tried to just find my tape measure... that was 2 weeks ago.
@@nevermindthebull0cks You put it someplace safe...
Hi, I agree totally. I liked the fact that Jay talked about the number of days it took but I sure would like to see a breakdown of time spent on each part of a build in the description. Still enjoyed the video and his analysis of what went wrong 👍.
There's a lot of knowledge in what you just presented. In woodworking achieving perfection is difficult because you're working with a natural material. Great video.
Love your honesty and desire to learn from your mistakes!!!
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is how we learn, don't give up, you do great work
This was really well done. Ton of information that will make this easier when I decide to jump into this.
They came out looking great! One of the things I appreciate about and some others that I follow is that you’re honest and do point out what you learned from making something. Exposing “mistakes” is helpful to anyone who would like to make something similar. The major goal of my TH-cam channel is to help other woodworkers. If I don’t point out my mistakes and poor technique than others will think I’m doing everything “right.” That doesn’t help them. I think your goal is the same. Obviously from your success there are many who agree. Now, if I can one day be able to afford a CNC so that I can make cutting boards like those you tried to make and thus learn from your mistakes. Thanks Jay.
I usually shy aware from long videos, ( videos over 10 or 12 minutes). But Jay has a way to keep my interest going, even in a 23 minute video. Great video.
Paul Ratay ...even a 23 minute video! Now THATS a concentration span!
1.75x speed is your friend ;)
I usually shy away from short videos, (videos under 10 or 12 minutes). 20 minute videos normally have more interesting things to say and more knowledge to share. Learning takes time.
Was it 23 minutes - I actually didn't notice!
Yes, me too; 10-12 minute videos often keep me awake, as long as it's not just heap-hoop-flickering.
I think the key is to stick to the point like Jay does and staying technical.
Other videos bring in a lot of humour and jokes to help getting rid of some of the problems, but Jay does better; he hides the fun stuff and does not highlight it.
-This is very rewarding, when you watch the video again ... each time you watch it, you have a chance of finding another fun detail.
That’s a lot of lessons. Thanks for passing hem on. Sorry you couldn’t finish them as you originally thought but glad they weren’t a total loss.
Love the cutaway demonstration of the problem. Nice job Jay, good lessons learned. They look awesome though.
Great Vid man.... Love the fact that I'm not the only guy who shits the bed doing projects. Between you and Mark Lindsay I have learned a wealth of CNC knowledge!! Thank you!
Striving for absolute perfection and yet at the same time highlighting the smallest of your mistakes is one of the things that makes your channel so great.
I've learnt so much from you over the years mate, thank you.
They turned out great. Lessons learned will make the next ones turn out amazing.
Great video and information Jay! This easily could have been a "beauty" video with everything that is a "lesson learned" being left out. Thanks for sharing this and your experiences and real timeline of this project! Keep it up!
I think my jaw was dropped the entire video. You're awesome, Jay!
Excellent video with many "pointers" for all of us. Thanks for taking the time. I've saved this one to my CNC category for re-watching. Think about this too ....... Your WORST is often better than many people's BEST !!!!!
Thorough honesty educates us all. Much appreciated !
$500-1,000 for each piece without even blinking an eye! the level of detail is incredible! Beautiful work and attention to detail! Well done!
The lemonade you made when you found the flaw in the inlay worked out very well. I am sure you have some very happy State fans that are happy with the outcome. Thanks for sharing the good and the lessons learned in this project. Thanks
Great that you are honest about your mistakes. I prefer this to as we all makes mistakes and we can learn from your honesty. Thanks Jay.
I was thinking I would not like the bubinga ones, but once you got the finish done I think those 2 are my favorites. Very nice work.
You have incredible talent and sticktoitiveness, may it never let you down. Your analogy reminded me of this song. Kenny Rogers Baseball Song - "The Greatest"
Very much appreciate the tips. Haven't yet jumped into CNC yet but love these real life lessons.
A smart person learns from their mistakes, the smarter person learns from someone else's mistakes. Thanks for the teaching.
Way too beautiful to have been used as a carving board. Bravo!
Thanks for your honesty and "lessons learned". Very much appreciated.
Jay, I have learned a LOT from your videos and I really appreciate you showing your errors, it shows that not everyone is perfect and that we all learn from our projects. These still came out beautifully! Perfectionism is not a flaw, it just makes us all better woodworkers. Great work again and thanks for sharing.
I love this kind of video Jay. I like seeing pros overcome mistakes/challenges that invariably come up.
This may be the most helpful video I have seen about this yet, because you actually point out the difficulties, thanks! The outcome looks great, very inspiring!
Jay, that is a LOT of lessons-learned for one video. But I say every mistake is either a learning opportunity or a design opportunity. Yours included a re-purposing opportunity. Thank you for your candor.
That's beautiful work Jay 👍!
it takes a lot to swallow your pride and point out all the failures in this set of projects. However, you did a great service to everyone watching by explaining those failures and how to mitigate them. Keep it up Jay they still looked killer even if they didn't end up being used for the original purpose.
I like the honesty and everything about this video - thumbs up! Wait, I lied. I'm an Auburn Tiger so I liked just about everything in this video. Nice work!
These look really good. thanks for sharing your experience. I respect driving for best possible performance. But serious. looks really good!
Beautiful wall pieces Jay! These things happen, and a quick win project is usually my plan of action when things go wrong. Thanks for sharing the mistakes and timeline... Watching a 20 min. video on TH-cam then trying to replicate a project gets frustrating when it seems to take so long, but having the understanding that things take time, even for the pros helps me stay motivated. Keep at it, and keep inspiring the rest of us.
You may have grounded out during this project, but with lessons learned, a grand slam is in your future. I appreciate your explanations.
Have a new AVID CNC 5' x 12' coming in the first of the year. Your video was most helpful! Thank you.
Great Video Jay. Thanks for sharing the journey.
Not trying to take pleasure in your frustration but this video was actually quite motivating for me. It's (for a lack of a better term) nice to see that even the pros I look up to are still learning from their mistakes. Great content. Thanks
Hugely helpful - I just did two v carve inlays and had problems with the hollow sound as well, I knew the inlay didn't go in the pocket all the way, but I didn't know how to fix it, now I do. Thanks! I also had a problem where the inlay plug didn't fill the pocket all the way, so some letters and curves are hollow, not sure about that one.
I really appreciate what you are trying to say about lessons and failures . I have actually been writing a book on what you are trying to explain but with a lot more depth. I saved your video so I can get you a copy in a few weeks once it’s done. What’s funny is the reason we both understand the concept is the same reason we are interested in these inlays.
Hey Jay,
Gotta say, I would LOVE to work in the shop next to you, the way you explain and demonstrate is just awesome!
Thanks for sharing 😊
Regards
Lars
Other-guy-replacement.
Wow that has to be the most creepy comment on this v8deo jay reads, lol
Great analogy at the end there Jay!
Excellent video, the highs and lows of a woodworker. I agree we may be hard on ourselves but it’s usually where I learn the most. And they do look awesome. Take Care
I’ll leave the short and sweet. The message right below from a Tony Miller summed it up perfect! I can just imagine the frustration you were having with this. I’m a Woodworker and get excited to try new projects but by the time I hit lessons learned 3 or 4 I’m usually out of steam and the excitement is at a bare minimum. Keep making saw dust.
-Bob-
Awesome work Jay! 👍🏻👊🏻
Lessons learned are always the best videos! Keep them coming.
Thanks for this. The boards are beautiful, and I think the video is immeasurably more useful and interesting with the lessons learned than it would be without.
There are epoxies of low enough viscosity that a small hole drilled from the back might have worked to strengthen the boards enough for cutting board use. But eliminating the glue pocket sounds simpler for future projects.
The "lessons learned" are a great way to leap forward. Good stuff!
Acknowledging failure is not as beneficial as articulating the error.
"I'm really good at screwing up the simple things." Oh, I can relate so much.
Hey Jay! While the project didn't come out the way you wanted, the fact that you recognize the learning process is huge and you'll know how to fix the issues you had for the next time you do this.
Love it Jay, very thorough
Very interesting video Jay. Thanks for taking the time to describe this in detail. Learned a lot and appreciate the honesty.
Hey Jay, great video! I really appreciate your perspective regarding mistakes made. As a perfectionist in recovery I really think your outlook is a great compromise between the mentality of “it needs to be perfect to be worthwhile” and “done is better than perfect”. The latter is actually a great view if used, as you have here, to learn and continually improve. Rushing through something without implementing improvements learned through mistakes, in my opinion, is not the proper view when using the “done is better than perfect” approach. Again, great job! Keep it up!
You can still save those for cutting blocks if you wanted to. It would be tedious, but doable. From the backside drill 2 holes just deep enough to reach the cavity on opposing sides of the cavity and inject slow setting epoxy. Just a thought.
...the sign of every great carpenter is how well they can hide their mistakes.
HAILSTATE!!! Awesome job brother!
I don't like to make mistakes, but that's when I do learn the most. Good Point Jay!
Prounounced...Nye-trill...beautiful work. Thanks.
Thank you.
My brother played baseball at Miss St. back in the early 90s. He'd love a board like this!
Great video! This must be about the 100th time I’ve watched this one in particular haha. In regards to the folks who say that you’re too hard on yourself, I hear that same comment also when it comes to the work I do. My grandfather use to always tell me “there’s always something to improve upon. You should always make each piece better than the one before it. There’s nothing wrong with having flaws in your piece, but know that being your own worst enemy when it comes to your work shows that you take pride in the pieces you make.” By no means am I the same caliber craftsman as you are, I’m an ironworker by day, and woodworking is a hobby, but I’ve learned so much from your videos. From fundamentals to some of the tips and tricks of the trade. Keep up the great work Jay!
Beautiful work
Very nicely done. I like your hammer. I just set up my c3 31 comfort.
They look great.
Clearly a proud Michigander, outstanding
Even though you didn't get what set out for, I think they ended up looking great!
Thank you...its nice to see someone as experienced as you make a mistake once in a while..as a new woodworker I make mistakes all the time...the learning process. However the difference between us, when you mess up it still looks good 🤔 .Mine becomes firewood. 😂
Great learning video for others. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video. When I took my MBA, I asked the Profs to provide examples of business ventures that failed, with analysis of why, instead of only successes. A person can learn a lot from things that didn't go exactly as planned. Or, they should, anyway. :-) The pieces still came out looking nice. I'd say, nice adaptation from cutting board to wall art.
Thank you for the wonderful content Jay. I see you have a $20 Festool pencil too! 🤣
Great project, and Go Dawgs!!! MSU class of 81'.
Hey Jay, thank you for taking the time to highlight your difficulties found during the process. This is both educational as well as helpful for those who get discouraged while learning. Would it be possible to open a few voids in the back and backfill with epoxy?
I’ve always wanted to try using inlays on a cutting board but was concerned about the glue gap and exposure to moisture. Thank you for sharing your lessons learned and sparing me from repeating your mistakes. Nice job and thanks for being humble! You’ve likely seen some of the boards done by mtmwood. He does lots of inlays in his cutting boards but I believe he uses endmill bits throughout the entire process. I’m going to rewatch one to see for sure. Maybe some of his posted plans include details about his technique.
I thought you did a fantastic job. Keep up the great videos.
Awesome video love the way you except the mistakes and just move on . They turned out very nice and your video as always very informative. Wow your shop has had a ton of tools added and upgrades . Looking top notch professional you have come a long way from apartment shop video days . Glad you are doing so well and having fun at the same time.
Great advice on Dont lean over the saw blade👍
Cool approach....
Wow, I have been watching you for a while and never knew you lived in Starkville! Hail State!
Jay, I too ruined several drum sanding belts when trying to flatten a glue up that was too wide for my planer. I'm now religious about using a random orbital sander to remove all visible glue before sending it through the drum sander. I simply need a larger planer;-) Great work and thanks for sharing your lessons learned! BTW, I've found that I get much less chip out when I run the vbit first and then the clearance bit during inlay operations....in either face or end grain.
I think they look great. Wish I could do something like that for Michigan, Red Wings, Tigers, Lions or Pistons..
Nice job. I can not wait to become good enough to make those kinds of mistakes!!
Grettings from Poland :)
Great work Jay. I understand your thoughts at the end. I am always self critical but that is in my nature. My Linda tells me that the work is great but I think this is not as good as I can do. All I want to do is a job that is as good as I can do with the equipment I have, so if there is an issue I think is not the equipments fault, I know it is me and thus not as good as I know I can do. I hope that makes sense !!
Great info, thanks for sharing it.
Jay, you could glue these in with epoxy to fill the gap. When you clamp down, the epoxy will seep out and leave a thin black outline around the letters after sanding. It actually looks kind of cool. It would have been nice to see your v carve start and finish depths. I am still learning and appreciate all of your efforts. Thanks
Hail State!
Andrew Westerfield Hailstate! Really wish I knew about this channel when I still lived in Starkville
Re. glue: Use a foam paint roller to apply the glue when making the glue-ups for cutting boards. This give a perfect amount of glue and perfect coverage, leading to less squeeze-out.
Great job with what you did. I think you could still use these as cutting boards by not putting any feet on them, routing a juice groove on the backside (side without the inlay) and don't route handles. This way you could cut on the backside and not scratch up you inlays and not worry about the hollow area under the inlay as there should be enough thickness on the backside. When not cutting on the board you can stand it up and display the beautiful work you have done. Function and beauty,
Nice vid. Ya I wasn't happy with the "standard" .1 and .1 of the V bit inlay. I started doing a .18 start and a flat of .02 it makes the inlay much better with almost no gap. Clamping is key.
Looks great either way.
Glad I am not alone in mess ups.
Good job!
Hi Jay. Those boards are great! Don't hang them on the wall too fast. You can easily fix the glue gap issue by drilling a small hole to reach the area then fill it with fluid epoxy in a syringe and the boards will be usable for the purpose intended. As simple as this
Excellent!
Good advice Jay-I agree....
I'm not a woodworker personally, but my 88 year old father is. I'm hooked on watching your custom creations. I'd love to purchase one of the dark boards for my son. Please let me know if that's possible. I come to Starkville often to visit my son and his family. Would love to have my father meet you sometime if you wouldn't mind.
One of the many things I learnt from studying for exams: You learn more from understanding why the wrong answers were wrong, than why the right answers were right. I was a little saddened by the beatup you gave yourself at the end. You now know why quite a few things you did should no be done a particular way, and those lessons are transferable. On top of that, if you had got it right the very first time, you only learned one thing. Remember, the only true mistake you make is the one from which you learn nothing. I look forward to your next masterpiece. Cheers!
You CAN plane wide boards on your Hammer - just take of some of the safety features. The technique is documented for doing rebates for door- and windowframes.
I am pretty sure I would have gotten frustrated too. I might have been tempted to take them to the bandsaw and slicing the top off to be able to remove the gap on the thickness planer and then gluing the top slice back to the rest of the board.