Why do we get such dull, muddy videos on the cameras of the red company? I have already reviewed a bunch of videos about these cameras and everywhere the image is somehow dim
You might be looking at log footage that hasn’t had a LUT applied yet? That method of shooting means you retain more latitude to make creative decisions later in post. You can apply a viewing LUT in camera to make the footage look more palatable. Then in post you can apply a grading LUT to give you a headstart on colour correction. If you’re doing quick turnaround work on a Komodo, you can shoot straight to ProRes and choose to “bake” the LUT into the footage.
By default it records a log image according to the quality, resolution and contrast option you choose. There’s another option that allows you to bake your chosen LUT into the recorded file.
Love it mate. Thanks for posting, we’re all eagerly waiting cinematic footage as opposed to the planes, dogs and ice footage the coloured Komodo owners gave us. Thanks!
The Brad Pitt SNL skit was shot on Komodo and also Alicia Key's new video was also shot on Komodo and Monstro for the wide crane shots. It's a good looking camera! Red hit a home run!
pixelatorNYC Yes, I wasn’t too fond of those, Brad Pitts spot looked like day time tv and The Alicia Keys video had some weird cadence of some sort, like it was shot at 48 FPS or an off shutter speed, like a high end DSLR look to me.
In this test I tried to use the Zhiyun focus/zoom motors on their rail system but had trouble getting them to communicate with the Motion Sense remote. I’m about to release some new videos where I use either the RTMotion focus system or the Tilta Nucleus system. In both cases I’m using the Keystone cage from IgniteDigi Australia to mount the rails. www.ignitedigi.com.au/products/ignite-digi-komodo-keystone
@@graetzmedia I've been having a lot of trouble trying to find a way to connect the Zhiyun motors to a normal 15mm rail rod myself. Looking forward to the new videos. Thanks a lot! Keep it up.
Unfortunately they’re only made to fit on Zhiyun’s proprietary rails which are 11.86mm (go figure). You should have got some with your Crane kit and some extra extensions if you bought the optional lens motor kit. They screw straight into the crane baseplate.
Yeah to be honest it’s not great. I don’t use the image transmission at all due to low quality and dropouts. I’m using Teradek wireless for vision. The wireless control system doesn’t have great range either. I haven’t done scientific tests on range - but I wouldn’t want to be much more than 5 metres away to get reliable control.
Hi ! Great video ! i have one crane 3s but when i put “max follow focus” the wheel is not work but the “rocker” do. Can i change to wheel control ? Thank you
i have the exact same setup. komodo arriving monday. would kill or die to see a little more detail of connections. there isn’t a video that shows crane w wireless, follow focus and the image transmission system all working in tandem. there are so many wires and no explanation of what each wire is doing and where it connects. peace and love
Hi, although the explanation here (which is by far the best you can find on the net) refers to the Weebill S you nevertheless can take 1:1 for the Crane 3S as well, especially the transmission system part. I hope this helps, please let me know if it did - here is the link: th-cam.com/video/lryq9K0_xWU/w-d-xo.html - have fun! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ahh, i almost forgot, in case you have vibrating issues or some weird shaking going on, check this out: th-cam.com/video/bB1rI_sv53U/w-d-xo.html or this one: th-cam.com/video/1I36evpHgkY/w-d-xo.html
@@graetzmedia please do! This is a next level development ;) I wish I could get my hands on Komodo. I am shooting a feature and would love to use this camera. The image is just amazing, and the size makes it awesome for less expensive rigging options.
Hey man! Great video! Can you share with me your motor settings and other stuff that’s good to know from the Zhiyun Crane 3s? I use it with a lighter Komodo setup then you’re doing but I can’t seem to loose a wiggle that’s always there horizontally. Would love to know how you’ve managed to loose that!
To be honest I ended up getting rid of the Crane 3S. I had too many problems similar to what you’re describing and couldn’t find a solution. I’m using the DJI RS2 now - hoping to get some time to make some vids about it soon. Combined with some of the Tilta ecosystem it can be a pretty powerful combo.
Great setup, but watching that Angie fly unprotected that close to a country road made my skin crawl. One stray rock and that front element would’ve been toast.
Haven’t tested properly yet, but DR looks pretty close to what I’m used to with REDs. As long as you don’t let the exposure traffic lights switch on it’s usually pretty safe. Having the 3 different options for highlight rolloff is pretty cool.
You need to contact Red directly as it’s still in Beta. Best bet is to join the Komodo FB group and check the recent posts for more info: facebook.com/groups/REDKomodoUsers/?ref=share
Just wondering if you're happy with the komodo? I currently have a pocket6k (used to own the scarlet mx back in the day). There's just something about a red.... wondering if this has the same magic or whether it's just a toy branded with the red logo? Also, what did that cost you landed in Aust? I think the stormtrooper one is US$7000? What does it end up being with shipping and taxes etc (hard to get any info on it)
It’s a fair question - and I can 100% say it’s not a toy. I’m seeing very little quality difference between the Komodo and my Monstro (apart from sensor size). For me, Redcode Raw is what makes Red cameras so powerful and having something this small with that power inside it is crazy. Cost me approx $11k AUD inc shipping and taxes. The Stormtrooper beta run is coming to an end soon. I believe the normal production run will be at least $2k USD cheaper. Question is when they can start that phase with the impacts of Covid.
Hey Becky, Zhiyun doesn’t support Red control at the moment. But if you’re just wanting to move the gimbal using the app, go into the camera selection part of the menu on your smart handle and choose “CCS” as the camera. Should give you control. You need to make sure you’ve got the USB-C to micro-USB cable connected from the camera control port on the gimbal sled to the Transmount transmitter. Cheers Dan
It worked out to just under $2500 AUD inc tax and shipping for the Pro pack plus an extra power plus battery, a trans mount receiver and the Motionsense remote.
Hi, liking the new videos. I have one question which you might be able to answer as you also have a Canon C500 ii. I want to know if the Komodo can take the newer Canon A series batteries that work on the C200 & C500ii as well or is it just the old types?
Unfortunately only the older 7.2v batts. BP-As are double the voltage. I’ve got 2 x BP955s and 2 x BP975s for the Komodo. They’re in short supply likely due to Covid + future Komodo owners buying up the small amount of stock that was around. Runtime is impressive on them (anecdotally-speaking haven’t done an official test yet).
@@graetzmedia Thanks for letting me know. Im thinking about that Tilta's compact v lock system and using 45 Bebob micro batteries if I get the camera. I already have a Gemini so nice to have batteries that work across systems.
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Where are you from dude? Come to Melbs, rescue us from lockdown and beer's on me.
Hi, looks awesome. I've actually had lots of experience shooting with the RED + Zhiyun Crane 3S out of a car in a simple setup. Your setup is great but if I may add one more tip is def go for a Buick GL8 or a van type of car, so then you can fully open the side sliding doors and get easier access to low angle shots. You can feel free to check out my solo operator Zhiyun Crane 3S official tutorial on my channel to see how I used it. Good luck and great success to your upcoming Music Video shoot.
Yeah this was just a quick & dirty test as my car mounts hadn’t arrived yet. I’ve now mounted the Crane3S to a magnetic vibration-isolated mount on the side of my 4WD. A few teething issues but still promising. I’ll have a new video up shortly showing the results.
Why do we get such dull, muddy videos on the cameras of the red company? I have already reviewed a bunch of videos about these cameras and everywhere the image is somehow dim
You might be looking at log footage that hasn’t had a LUT applied yet? That method of shooting means you retain more latitude to make creative decisions later in post. You can apply a viewing LUT in camera to make the footage look more palatable. Then in post you can apply a grading LUT to give you a headstart on colour correction. If you’re doing quick turnaround work on a Komodo, you can shoot straight to ProRes and choose to “bake” the LUT into the footage.
@@graetzmedia Pro-res also need to be painted? Doesn't it come out with a clear picture like a simple UHD recording?
By default it records a log image according to the quality, resolution and contrast option you choose. There’s another option that allows you to bake your chosen LUT into the recorded file.
@@graetzmedia It's too difficult for me so far) I don't even know how to use LUT
I’ll try to cover it in a future episode. It’s not the most intuitive thing in the world - but once you get the concept it can be super helpful.
One of he best Komodo demonstrations. I have to say, though, was getting a little nervous for you at 4:23. Thanks for filming. Cheers ✌🏻
Thanks man. Yeah I have a habit of putting cameras in sketchy situations 🤓
Those kids are adorable.
Thanks for the help. Super on point
kills me to think that glass can get chipped away 5:29
Love it mate. Thanks for posting, we’re all eagerly waiting cinematic footage as opposed to the planes, dogs and ice footage the coloured Komodo owners gave us. Thanks!
No worries mate. Shooting a big music video on the Komodo next week - possibly a mix of spherical and anamorphic. Should be a good test for it!
The Brad Pitt SNL skit was shot on Komodo and also Alicia Key's new video was also shot on Komodo and Monstro for the wide crane shots. It's a good looking camera! Red hit a home run!
so theres anamorphic option?
graetzmedia can’t wait!&
pixelatorNYC Yes, I wasn’t too fond of those, Brad Pitts spot looked like day time tv and The Alicia Keys video had some weird cadence of some sort, like it was shot at 48 FPS or an off shutter speed, like a high end DSLR look to me.
👍🏾🙏🏾
Excuse me... Road Train?
That’s what we call them in Australia. Semis towing more than 2 trailers.
Very nice looking footage! How did you mount the follow focus servo motors? What type of rail or connector did you use?
In this test I tried to use the Zhiyun focus/zoom motors on their rail system but had trouble getting them to communicate with the Motion Sense remote. I’m about to release some new videos where I use either the RTMotion focus system or the Tilta Nucleus system. In both cases I’m using the Keystone cage from IgniteDigi Australia to mount the rails. www.ignitedigi.com.au/products/ignite-digi-komodo-keystone
@@graetzmedia I've been having a lot of trouble trying to find a way to connect the Zhiyun motors to a normal 15mm rail rod myself. Looking forward to the new videos. Thanks a lot! Keep it up.
Unfortunately they’re only made to fit on Zhiyun’s proprietary rails which are 11.86mm (go figure). You should have got some with your Crane kit and some extra extensions if you bought the optional lens motor kit. They screw straight into the crane baseplate.
@@graetzmedia I don't get why Zhiyun had to make it like that instead of just using the universal 15mm for expandability. Anyway, thanks, mate!
to your experience how's the control with the handle ? a lot complain about the range of the video transmition and the loss of wifi
Yeah to be honest it’s not great. I don’t use the image transmission at all due to low quality and dropouts. I’m using Teradek wireless for vision. The wireless control system doesn’t have great range either. I haven’t done scientific tests on range - but I wouldn’t want to be much more than 5 metres away to get reliable control.
Nice video!
Cheers man. Plenty more to come
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Love it guys!
At this time what is the best gimbal for the komodo up to 4k?
I’m really happy with the DJI RS2. It means stripping your builds down more than what the Crane3S could handle - but it’s way less buggy.
Hi ! Great video ! i have one crane 3s but when i put “max follow focus” the wheel is not work but the “rocker” do. Can i change to wheel control ? Thank you
How do you connect komodo to zhiyun to app?! Please help
My God that footage is BUTTER!!!! And the Zhyiun is insane! This is what i like to see. Actual hard yaccka tests out in the real world! More please!!
Thanks man - plenty more to come 🤙🏻
Hello, how did you get 60 fps at 6k on the komodo ?
It seems it stuck to 40fps to me...
Nice video though ! exactly what I need !
i have the exact same setup. komodo arriving monday. would kill or die to see a little more detail of connections. there isn’t a video that shows crane w wireless, follow focus and the image transmission system all working in tandem. there are so many wires and no explanation of what each wire is doing and where it connects. peace and love
Hi, although the explanation here (which is by far the best you can find on the net) refers to the Weebill S you nevertheless can take 1:1 for the Crane 3S as well, especially the transmission system part. I hope this helps, please let me know if it did - here is the link: th-cam.com/video/lryq9K0_xWU/w-d-xo.html - have fun! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ahh, i almost forgot, in case you have vibrating issues or some weird shaking going on, check this out: th-cam.com/video/bB1rI_sv53U/w-d-xo.html or this one: th-cam.com/video/1I36evpHgkY/w-d-xo.html
And especially this: th-cam.com/video/NojHhgIBqE4/w-d-xo.html which is the (inofficial) Zhiyun 3S vibration fixing guide ;=)
Hi! Great videos on the Komodo. HOw many people can log into the Wifi and monitor! Such a sweet little feature!
Great question. I’ve got about 6 iOS devices. I’ll connect them all, see what happens and make a vid about it.
@@graetzmedia please do! This is a next level development ;) I wish I could get my hands on Komodo. I am shooting a feature and would love to use this camera. The image is just amazing, and the size makes it awesome for less expensive rigging options.
Congrats. You got a crane 3s that doesn't have wobble problems.
Hey man! Great video! Can you share with me your motor settings and other stuff that’s good to know from the Zhiyun Crane 3s? I use it with a lighter Komodo setup then you’re doing but I can’t seem to loose a wiggle that’s always there horizontally. Would love to know how you’ve managed to loose that!
To be honest I ended up getting rid of the Crane 3S. I had too many problems similar to what you’re describing and couldn’t find a solution. I’m using the DJI RS2 now - hoping to get some time to make some vids about it soon. Combined with some of the Tilta ecosystem it can be a pretty powerful combo.
I think that CCS stands for Camera Control System. Thanks for these videos, love your work!
That makes total sense 🤙🏻
Great setup, but watching that Angie fly unprotected that close to a country road made my skin crawl. One stray rock and that front element would’ve been toast.
That footage looks so good, I can’t wait to see the music video. Good d to see you got that remote working for your tilt and pan.
Yeah it was a big relief to figure that one out!
Your footage looks better than a lot of other tests, Does it have any issues with highlights?
Haven’t tested properly yet, but DR looks pretty close to what I’m used to with REDs. As long as you don’t let the exposure traffic lights switch on it’s usually pretty safe. Having the 3 different options for highlight rolloff is pretty cool.
graetzmedia thnx mate, your footage looks great by the way! Waiting for more footage from you, take care..
How do I order the red Komodo
You need to contact Red directly as it’s still in Beta. Best bet is to join the Komodo FB group and check the recent posts for more info:
facebook.com/groups/REDKomodoUsers/?ref=share
Just wondering if you're happy with the komodo? I currently have a pocket6k (used to own the scarlet mx back in the day). There's just something about a red.... wondering if this has the same magic or whether it's just a toy branded with the red logo?
Also, what did that cost you landed in Aust? I think the stormtrooper one is US$7000? What does it end up being with shipping and taxes etc (hard to get any info on it)
It’s a fair question - and I can 100% say it’s not a toy. I’m seeing very little quality difference between the Komodo and my Monstro (apart from sensor size). For me, Redcode Raw is what makes Red cameras so powerful and having something this small with that power inside it is crazy.
Cost me approx $11k AUD inc shipping and taxes. The Stormtrooper beta run is coming to an end soon. I believe the normal production run will be at least $2k USD cheaper. Question is when they can start that phase with the impacts of Covid.
@@graetzmedia thank you so much for your reply, I greatly appreciate it.
The zhiyun crane 3s wont connect to the app.
Do i need a wire from zhiyun crane 3s to red?
Hey Becky, Zhiyun doesn’t support Red control at the moment. But if you’re just wanting to move the gimbal using the app, go into the camera selection part of the menu on your smart handle and choose “CCS” as the camera. Should give you control. You need to make sure you’ve got the USB-C to micro-USB cable connected from the camera control port on the gimbal sled to the Transmount transmitter.
Cheers
Dan
Nice one man - good to see some comprehensive usage. How much did you pay in AUD for it? I'm based in QLD and thinking of the jump to RED.
It worked out to just under $2500 AUD inc tax and shipping for the Pro pack plus an extra power plus battery, a trans mount receiver and the Motionsense remote.
@@graetzmedia Is that for the gimbal? Sorry for the confusion, I meant the camera man.
where did you get the cage for the Komodo
www.ignitedigi.com.au/products/ignite-digi-komodo-keystone
graetzmedia thnx
rock star- this just confirmed that i didnt wast $1000 on the fantasy of ideal gimbal setup for the little dragon
Yeah this gimbal does way more than it should for the price
Hi, liking the new videos. I have one question which you might be able to answer as you also have a Canon C500 ii. I want to know if the Komodo can take the newer Canon A series batteries that work on the C200 & C500ii as well or is it just the old types?
Unfortunately only the older 7.2v batts. BP-As are double the voltage. I’ve got 2 x BP955s and 2 x BP975s for the Komodo. They’re in short supply likely due to Covid + future Komodo owners buying up the small amount of stock that was around. Runtime is impressive on them (anecdotally-speaking haven’t done an official test yet).
@@graetzmedia Thanks for letting me know. Im thinking about that Tilta's compact v lock system and using 45 Bebob micro batteries if I get the camera. I already have a Gemini so nice to have batteries that work across systems.
Where are you from dude? Come to Melbs, rescue us from lockdown and beer's on me.
I’m Brisbane born&bred. Sounds good man - from what we’re seeing up here you guys could use some beers and a laugh. Hang in there bro!
Hi, looks awesome. I've actually had lots of experience shooting with the RED + Zhiyun Crane 3S out of a car in a simple setup. Your setup is great but if I may add one more tip is def go for a Buick GL8 or a van type of car, so then you can fully open the side sliding doors and get easier access to low angle shots. You can feel free to check out my solo operator Zhiyun Crane 3S official tutorial on my channel to see how I used it. Good luck and great success to your upcoming Music Video shoot.
Yeah this was just a quick & dirty test as my car mounts hadn’t arrived yet. I’ve now mounted the Crane3S to a magnetic vibration-isolated mount on the side of my 4WD. A few teething issues but still promising. I’ll have a new video up shortly showing the results.
cute kids haha
crane 3s is the shitiest thing I have tested this year