Final V14 Testing & Tear Down
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- I perform the final Inmotion recommended troubleshooting test, tear down the wheel, and send it back to China.
Chapter Index:
00:00 Introduction
02:16 Active Hall Sensor Test
04:40 Conclusions
07:17 11-days later
09:58 Removing the side panels
11:16 Removing the pedals
12:46 Preparing to remove the batteries
13:07 Removing the batteries
13:51 Pedal details
15:43 What's holding all your weight
17:20 Changing the tire
19:38 Stanchion cross-supports
20:05 Wrap-up
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It's an adventure to fix this wheel! I'm concerned you will have long term inmotional damage...
LOL
That's pretty funny dude! 👍
Inmotion is probably freaking out, they hyped this wheel for months and this is not the roll-out they were hoping for.
So I work for LG Electronics, and these things happen. But, we keep a massive variety of inventory sitting right here in Los Angeles. If I get news of a defective product, I log into it and analyze the error code data the day that I hear about it. If something is wrong we don't mess around. I would notify you the same day that an entire replacement product is shipping and here is your tracking number. We take the defective unit back and then send it back to Korea for analysis. But most importantly, we never let you sit on a product that is defective, we react immediately so you don't make videos about it😂😂
Good to hear. Certainly an advantage to working for a huge conglomerate like LG relative to a very small company like Inmotion
So make us an EUC 😅
@@mcogon that's funny! 👍
They want to replicate your failures so they can provide a proper/permanent fix; no more or less complicated than that.
Those engineers are in China and the less handling the DUT has on the way there the higher confidence that any problems they find were originally there before shipping out from your location; if it were my product I'd have done the same thing.
Could have even been just a marginal batch of hall sensors got through in manufacturing; that they had you send it to them directly speaks to their desire to ship well designed and performing products as well as your relationship with them.
I would like to think of it more as a sign of our evolving relationships with overseas vendors in emergent technology during a modern era than any sort of trending indication of poor quality/design. That's a *good* thing. Really good.
Interesting if it is the motor. Glad to hear they are taking it back. I'm not gonna lie this did take the wind out of my excitement for this wheel. I'm still really interested in what they are doing with the batteries. Hope to see more of that in future wheels.
I have already lost interest in this wheel, & any wheel inmotion makes. Not sure exactly, maybe its the terrible customer support communication, or simply none of their wheels seem interesting to me anymore, & this whole troubleshooting process is not something I would like to experience, but I enjoy Marty's videos, his patience & perseverance on this one!
The V12 left a bad taste in my mouth. Way too much tech packed into something that should really be super simple.
I don't think what Inmotion is offering to Marty is what the typical customer will get. I mean it's a beta wheel for them to sort out all the bugs, and that's why they would rather fly the wheel back to their office to investigate further. we will know more once Marty provides an update.
Good work Marty, hopefully they will keep you updated with what the issue was
Really enjoy these diagnostics videos, they are very interesting.👍 At the same time I do understand it must be extremely frustrating and disappointing having to go through all this wanting to have a functioning new EUC, as it should be, to testride.
Tough introduction for the V14 Adventure. It's like when the local Wal Mart Bakery dept takes a hit from the state Health Inspectors, you can bet that they'll have the cleanest Bakery in town after the local press makes it a story.
I'm sure Inmotions gonna be Real focused on fixing this issue because of Social Media. The sooner they solve this, the sooner people will forget it was ever an issue.
Thx for the update Hombré & Happy Holidaze ! 😜
LK gang all the way😎 had the V12 before my Patton and in short, I was having issues so bad that eWheels accepted a return. Paid the difference for a Patton and I haven’t had a single issue.
That's great news and thanks for sharing. I changed my v14 order to Patton last minute and enjoyed hitting the trails so far.
A bit inconsequential really, but I keep seeing people muscling pads off of their EUC and one of the best things I’ve seen for this was from “isthereanyfood” guy. I’m sorry I don’t know his name. He carries a thin piece of plastic (clipboard?) to adjust / remove his pads. I am a coach and have plenty of them laying around and it’s all I use now for pad adjustment. Super quick removal and adjusting.
I really like the V14.
I guess I'll have to dust off my electronics experience when I get mine
Nothing I need here that my Patton doesn’t have.
I want to be sympathetic toward inmotion.
Even without these technical problems I didn’t care much about this wheel.
Inmotional Damage!!!😂
They should have collected it in the first time it fails and replaced with a new one, I gave up this model.
Crazy they took 4 weeks to sort this out, they would have lost so many sales over this😂
v14 adventure
Did you see the video of the guys, I think electric dreams, who were testing the Lynx? They wired in a switch on the hall sensor. Then he got the wheel up to 25 miles an hour and disconnected, by flipping the switch, the hall sensor! Ballsy stuff! The wheel started beeping and then slowed down all the way till about 3 miles an hour and then it quit. No cut out. 👍
Yep, that was a good video 👍
You can do the same thing on the Abrams. You know the 'cutout' wheel? It's all done in firmware.
Just get veteran lynx brotha👍
He already has one 🎉
While you have their ear, you should mention that better version of a hall sensor that isn't prone to failure. I forget what it was called, but I think it was based on magnets. A EUC mechanic should know.
wow, kinda sketchy how the pedals hangers are anchored to that thin rod.
Wait till you see BEGODE....
@@jc84com actually, I do not know how the master series secure their pedal hanger. I would assume the same since v14 got the design from Begode? and since the master series battery packs are so removable, there is no other way for them to attach the pedal hangers.
Cool thank for the Video. Finally someone that makes a half teardown.
I have a question , is it possible to remove the pedals without the need to take out the main shock bolt ?
Also another question. I have around 600km on my v14 and lately i just checked the bolts and i saw that one cable jacket from the battery going the controller housing unit is ripped. Those cables inside are still intact. Can i repair it myself or is it a warranty thing-? Is it difficult to get inside the main housing ? What would be the best way to repair it and prevent further damage?
Thank you so much for you Video and all the work put into showing us everything about eucs
Sorry, I don't recall about the pedals but I'd be surprised if you have to bother with anything regarding the shock to change the pedals. But don't know for sure. You can certainly repair the cable sheathing yourself but I think I'd need to know exactly what the damage is and how it occurred because those battery cables shouldn't be moving.
Good troubleshooting video. Question: What is the reason for controller board getting damaged when there is a hall sensor failure (signal coming from the motor)? Does the controller logic makes it short itself out or something? Just trying to understand why does this happen
Sporadic hall sensor input can make the control board drive the motor rapidly backward and forward (like idling, but at 100x speed) which can cause excessive currents so fast that the MOSFET's will burn out.
@@ElectricUnicycles Thank you for explaining! it makes sense now... in other words the lack of closed loop input from the hall sensor makes the system underDampened with zeta close to 0 ✌
Inmotion should have replaced a month ago . Not sure if they realized the impact this breakdown was going to have on sales. Considering batch one hasn’t sold out , the damage is done. Now they have to spend much more on marketing to hopefully repair v14 image . Corporate Case study kinda stuff
They should have just given you a new wheel at the start.
You have hands like me, all dried out and very little fingernail. Means you work a lot in your shop. Did you get the pillars for the master pro ? Very easy upgrade. They are beautifully machined. Alien has them.
By pillars do you mean the lowered pedal hangers? No, I have not pursued those yet.
@@ElectricUnicycles th-cam.com/video/ZuoraIfBHf4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cHd94G3BFAsTLgIi. This is a machined part from Begode that reinforces the posts that the pedals attach too. Same post that the trolley handle springs reside.
cui bono?
wish you stop being in nonmotion hope soon you be inmotion😮💨
It is not the point that motor or hall sensor fail. It is the lame reaction of inmotion's service, why I am glad I never bought an inmotion wheel and I am sure I never will.
Looks like motherboard problem . Halls are working .
Well, actually the hall sensors are not working and this is the 2nd control board for this wheel.
@@ElectricUnicycles Thats not god :(
You did set your multimeter in DC but every hall sensor gives AC so your diagnostic data is kinda wrong.
Well, I precisely followed the directions and video from Inmotion. They probably know what they are doing :-) If you read the theory on how hall sensors operate you will learn that they can be used for measuring DC or AC current depending on the application.
@@ElectricUnicycles well you're probably right, im more use to test hall sensors on car like speed sensor or wheels sensors... My bad.
Btw you're not the only one who already has issues with the V14 some others reviewers have issues too
Плохо что сосок в другую сторону , против движения. Желательно переставить камеру.
В целом, так себе подвеска... Сильно заморочена.
Almost first!
Maybe next time.. 😅
Need a cookie?
you sound a lil robotic?
new mic?
Technical problems required me to heavily process the audio to make this video
Great video And very insightful.
BEGODE wheels are build 90% same. Great to see the differences.
I suggest you get some hex Alen wrenches, that can be used with a screw gun. Much easier and quicker than doing it by hand with a handled wrench.
I don't believe in using power tools when working on wheels. My choice :-)
As a maintenance QC Inspector for one of the U.S. Major Air carriers, if a Mechanic was seen driving Socket Head Cap Screws w/ power tools, they'd likely be delegated to work Interiors and leave the jobs effecting the Aircrafts Airworthyness to Real mechanics. Maybe Cleetus & Jeeters Auto Werks is the place for that kind of maintenance. 😉
its easy to overtorque bolts with powertools, but to unscrew them, yes, it would be faster
@@milordas Na, still a bad Idea, that's how Phillips Heads, Cap Screws & Machine screws get routed out and Threads galled beyond repair. It's why they invented Socket & Ratchet wrenches. Leave the Screw Guns to the Carpenters where they belong.
First again 🎉😂
Get a job!
Afeez. Do your e-RIDES pedals really fit the Lynx? They are different from the Patton. Looking at your website.
@@ElectricUnicycles They do, the e-RIDES Patton pedals (Biggie and Trail designs) works with the Lynx. Use the ratchet system included in the box for installation instead of the friction system that comes with the Lynx. We will also be including the friction system sometime in the near future.
The only test I want to see is the Lynx range test 😂😂😂...
Are you kidding me, the entire body weight is dependant on one screw that it through a flimsy tube???? Unreal!
Correction - two screw heads
The battery packs also form part of the structure
If im paying 4 to 5 grand for a wheel, i most definitely am not trying to fix anything on it, definitely not trying to fix it myself, opening a wheel and doing all this makes for great content, but for us normal consumers who purchase this wheel, this is asinine for a new wheel.