Tool PArt number: 202589004300 Lots of aftermarket versions too - probably this part number is superseded as this joint is still used on 2023 cars too.
@@davekostanich8770 i have the same tool, i measured 39.5mm (small cup, outer diameter). not sure how accurate my caliper is but this measurement should be very close
Interesting to see, this component that started life in the 190E is still used in many models all the way up to this year! (2023) Thats a very long time for a single component to get shared in various models.
I recently did this when rebuilding the suspension on my W124, and I've found that you can complete this job with a regular bushing removal tool set, you just need to remove the brake caliper and disc, and then just undo the 3 allen bolts that fasten the brake shield. After that, you can bring it outwards, until it hits the hub, and even rotate the shield, so you get enough clearence for the tool. Although it's doable if you are in a tight budget like me, as I spent a small fortune on the parts, having the MB tool really makes it a piece of cake, and definitely worth the investment if you're using it in more than one car.
Unrelated to this video but I remember you did a video on restoring the coloration of your w124 cluster with the white dots. Surprisingly what worked for me was some rust remover, tried it out first on the top inner side of the speedometer bezel housing, rubbed with some paper towel and it worked perfectly. I did it without taking the glass out, it was akward and if you look very closely there are some spots I couldn't reach with the paper towels, but even like that it looks great.
Nicely done, - yes - very important to only do the final bush tightening once suspension is at ride hight. Classic Mercedes engineering logic, if it works stick with it, eg; all 80's/90's W201 auto trans selector shifter Opaque nylon bush, same bush 1960's W111 220SE selector bush identical "If it aint broke?' , Good Job Tim! Cheers From the eastern states Glenn.
4 speed auto, Japanese personal import with 2 litre engine and blue cloth interior. it goes very much harder than australian version 1.8 cars. Its quite quick.
Yes, it is much much easier with this tool. I have done it with a standard press tool with cups that I modified to 'fit', destroyed one boot in the process and had to start over, much cur*ing, nashing of teeth, and a bit of angry fist shaking in the general direction of the lower control arm joint. Buy the tool, it is well worth the cost if you are doing this job.
grinding and squeaking noises from the affected side when moved. The boots can be inspected without disassembling, once torn and junk enters they are toast.
You dont need to remove spring or lower arm or shock just remove bolt and lower down enough to get tool in save hours labour and you dont have to get rear tracking done
Tool PArt number: 202589004300 Lots of aftermarket versions too - probably this part number is superseded as this joint is still used on 2023 cars too.
Great video! What's the out side diameter of the part of the tool that pulls thru the spindle?
@@davekostanich8770
i have the same tool, i measured 39.5mm (small cup, outer diameter).
not sure how accurate my caliper is but this measurement should be very close
@@knut5328 What is the part number of the bushing that you installed? Is the bushing for the 190e the same as the w124 bushing?
Forgot to say thanks!
@MMWA-DAVE where did you get that removal tool and how much was it?
Interesting to see, this component that started life in the 190E is still used in many models all the way up to this year! (2023) Thats a very long time for a single component to get shared in various models.
Rather rusty ? That's a super clean car where I'm from 😂
I've been thinking the same. Never seen one like that in the last 20 years!
More content on that w201 would be appreciated 😊
it does need some KE-Jetronic love, its running a tad rich, but fairly certain the o2 sensor is dead so nothing particularly exciting.
Turbo it like im doing😂😂
I recently did this when rebuilding the suspension on my W124, and I've found that you can complete this job with a regular bushing removal tool set, you just need to remove the brake caliper and disc, and then just undo the 3 allen bolts that fasten the brake shield. After that, you can bring it outwards, until it hits the hub, and even rotate the shield, so you get enough clearence for the tool. Although it's doable if you are in a tight budget like me, as I spent a small fortune on the parts, having the MB tool really makes it a piece of cake, and definitely worth the investment if you're using it in more than one car.
Unrelated to this video but I remember you did a video on restoring the coloration of your w124 cluster with the white dots. Surprisingly what worked for me was some rust remover, tried it out first on the top inner side of the speedometer bezel housing, rubbed with some paper towel and it worked perfectly. I did it without taking the glass out, it was akward and if you look very closely there are some spots I couldn't reach with the paper towels, but even like that it looks great.
Nicely done, - yes - very important to only do the final bush tightening once suspension is at ride hight. Classic Mercedes engineering logic, if it works stick with it, eg; all 80's/90's W201 auto trans selector shifter Opaque nylon bush, same bush 1960's W111 220SE selector bush identical "If it aint broke?' , Good Job Tim!
Cheers From the eastern states
Glenn.
well done and well documented as always!
Thank you for posting this.
All w201s are awesome. Is this one a 5 speed?
4 speed auto, Japanese personal import with 2 litre engine and blue cloth interior. it goes very much harder than australian version 1.8 cars. Its quite quick.
Yes, it is much much easier with this tool. I have done it with a standard press tool with cups that I modified to 'fit', destroyed one boot in the process and had to start over, much cur*ing, nashing of teeth, and a bit of angry fist shaking in the general direction of the lower control arm joint. Buy the tool, it is well worth the cost if you are doing this job.
Will this work on the w202
Is the rear suspension unique to the w201? Surely they didn’t scale it all up for the w124 & r129.
w201 was the first of this design, later versions are based on it and yes, scaled appropriately
@@MMWA-DAVE scaled in subframe, springs and dampers but not arms right?
At quick glance rear subframe bushings seems quite tired
What were the symptoms indicating that replacement was required?
squeaking, moaning and groaning from both sides at the rear. If the boots are torn and gone, the joint is finished.
What exactly is the symptom when this bushing wears out?
grinding and squeaking noises from the affected side when moved. The boots can be inspected without disassembling, once torn and junk enters they are toast.
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You dont need to remove spring or lower arm or shock just remove bolt and lower down enough to get tool in save hours labour and you dont have to get rear tracking done
Awesome, do you have the special tool part number?
202589004300 lots of aftermaket ones too