Dissolving the Subject-Object Construct (in Five Steps)

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  • @joshuahutt
    @joshuahutt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was quite emotional and somewhat unsettling for me!
    I was lying on the couch, looking up at the ceiling. The first three steps were quite easy to do, and I noticed when I started paying attention to the edges of my visual field, where it was less detailed, I got really emotional. I think it felt like I was losing my "grip" on what reality was. It really drove home the limitations of my senses in relation to the "actual reality" around me. It all felt so incredibly subjective - I barely have any faculties to really ascertain what is REALLY going on around me, and at the same time, I'm creating all aspects of this experience, down to the sense of a continuous, detailed visual field. Actually looking at the edges of the visual field and seeing how woefully un-detailed it was felt like looking down and realizing I had never been wearing pants my whole life. It was humbling, distressing, and astounding, all at once. I cried.
    The subject/object one...the last one. That's hard. I don't have a good handle on it, but it feels like my sense of distance has become more "virtual" now.
    So, I guess the exercise works!

  • @demogadget
    @demogadget 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Please! more of these direct pointers and exercises. They can help us a lot.
    Thanks.

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sure thing!

    • @paul-ie
      @paul-ie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, this was so clear. Love it Angelo

    • @demogadget
      @demogadget 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SimplyAlwaysAwake 🫡

    • @czarlito_
      @czarlito_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      +1

  • @cps_Zen_Run
    @cps_Zen_Run 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The illusion of 3-D projection is presented in a mirror or movie screen; yet we cannot reach “into” either. Consciousness presents itself similarly. Modified as needed; a car, house, mountain or sun , at no distance in Consciousness. Drop the Thoughts, Labels, and BE as Consciousness. Amazing & Wonderful.

  • @Quantumreturns
    @Quantumreturns 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love these deconstruction videos, very poignant. When I saw that there was no dividing line between out there and in here, both became one! It's all just conditioned perception that was yet to be questioned. Awesome, thank you!

  • @limpid.studio
    @limpid.studio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love when it's practical, directly experienced, so thank you for that !

  • @jasonandfiona
    @jasonandfiona 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    About a year ago I remember being on my couch and thinking about awareness and how I don’t “have” awareness, I “am” awareness. I had a shift in perspective that sort of flattened my visual field and gave me the sensation of being pushed right up against the glass to reality. Ive been able to go back to that feeling at will ever since.
    Angelo when you were referring to “out there” vs. pulled back in the visual field I had a really hard time making the distinction, I obviously still have depth perception but the “in here” sense is hard to distinguish vs. out there. It’s all just “this”. 👐🏼

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You may have already broken that spell 😀

    • @stephenvankleeck4801
      @stephenvankleeck4801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the same “issue.” I could isolate the body in awareness, move awareness “out” to the object, but that actually required more energy than resting back into both arising simultaneously, which felt like the natural experience to me.

  • @yasminel-hakim4348
    @yasminel-hakim4348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    these exercise videos are incredibly helpful.
    This persistent feeling of a subject behind the visual field is being questioned in its roots.
    The shifting between the periphery and the centered position shows clearly that it’s all there/here simultaneously.
    Will do this exercise daily and let’s see if it’s able to finally see clearly without underlying beliefs and thoughts.
    Thank you Angelo, you are incredible 🙏❤️

  • @soulTC
    @soulTC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was walking as I listened to this. A similar exercise can be employed when you're out. Look at the scene before you. It's constantly shifting. What makes you think there's a "you" that's moving through it? (Not saying there is or there isn't!) Yes, there are sensations in your soles and legs that you label "walking," but are they anything more than sensations? Before you, there's a row of trees. "Then" [tik tik tik] you're looking at a bridge. The scene is completely different. You infer the passage of time. Where's that located?

  • @user_friendly_geek
    @user_friendly_geek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, I just spent 30 minutes doing these exercises. It is becoming clear to me now that my perception of an object as being "out there" is intimately tied to my sense of self... When I am focusing on an object and it appears to be "out there", I am contracting my sense of self. But when I relax my sense of self while looking at an object, it loses the appearance of being "out there" and feels somehow like it's moved inside my head. So when transitioning between peripheral vision and focused vision, it seems that all I'm doing is contracting my sense of self when focusing on an object and relaxing my sense of self when looking into the periphery. OMG, it's all just happening inside my head. You have just blown my mind Angelo! Thank you so much.

  • @stevencheung9361
    @stevencheung9361 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love this step by step exercise. It takes some further practice but I can feel subtle changes by just following the video once. Thanks!

  • @keemaana8428
    @keemaana8428 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Dissolving the Subject-Object Construct or How to be Angelo in 5 seconds 😄 Thank you 🙏 Much love

  • @larolddunahey
    @larolddunahey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've practiced this sort of thing a fair bit, and at this point I'm not able to fully release attention from "here" when I'm looking "there." But I can't deny that there still feels like a strong distinction between the two. The "here" feels like the body, while the "there" looks like the outside world.
    I also notice that when I relax attention, the pixels are more pronounced. Sometimes there even looks to be a sort of flow in the pixels. If I'm looking outside or another light source like my monitor, I can see firefly type pixels buzzing about...but they're way more active outside in the sky. I have no idea what it means though.

    • @IAMFISH92
      @IAMFISH92 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This happens to me too, though not necessarily with pixels. I would describe everything as waves and “twinkles”? Not really sure how to describe it. But it’s definitely the case when I’m relaxed and not pointing my attention in any one direction specifically.

  • @StevenLeMieux
    @StevenLeMieux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ive very slowly very subtley caught pointers over the hundreds of videos you've shared Angelo. Right now at work im reflecting on the fact thst an ant was inaide of my tv screen today...it weirded me out and obviously annoyed me. But isnt it strange how did he get inside, why? Chasing lights on a flat surface no idea hes walking on a screen looking for a way out! Then this video drops and im stunned 😳

  • @hansenmarc
    @hansenmarc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:48 slowly bring attention from the edge of the visual field to the center and back and forth. When does it become a defined thing out there? Is there a dividing line?
    5:51 Where is the attention that’s moving located? Out there? In front of your nose as if it were flat?
    7:04 does the periphery feel like it’s at a specific location? What about the center? If so, what is being referenced in the visual field that indicates this locality?
    11:08 when there’s a sense of that out there, can you find the corresponding sense of something being here? Can you find it?
    13:07 slowly go back and forth between the experience of something out there and something being here. Can you find a border between the two?

  • @stacyjones4789
    @stacyjones4789 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great! Thank you, helps a lot. Exactly what I was looking for. Relaxed mind, no here and there separation giving me a headache ❤

  • @georgeshepherd3381
    @georgeshepherd3381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you! This is great!

  • @lukystaify
    @lukystaify 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    awesome! super helpful

  • @lucyinthe-sky
    @lucyinthe-sky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it's like it is the point of view what create forms and distance but when you focus on the awareness itself all references get lost and there's just one view/thing that it's everything

  • @benjaminmiller3075
    @benjaminmiller3075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Whe I tried to move between it felt like I was just pivoting slowly inside my head and my vision didn't flatten but became more like a vivid memory in mind theater

  • @arnaud_voltaire
    @arnaud_voltaire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Angelo now has my headache

  • @DrAmyJohnson
    @DrAmyJohnson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Moving from the sense of the subject to the object, nothing at changes in the visual field at all. That is clear. It feels like a somersault happens in thought where the mind flips from attention “there” to attention “here”. It’s a subtle thought that seems to arise somewhere between “there” and “here”.

  • @Jeronimo365
    @Jeronimo365 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was great, really enjoy the practical exercises. I understand this conceptually but when I was a kid and going to sleep in the half light, I would experience a perception shift where my brain couldn’t tell if a chair leg, for instance, was the size of a tower block but a long way away or the size of a needle and really up close. Like an illusion where it’s both or neither at the same time. Flat, immediate, there but nowhere in particular. It also came with a sense of profound peace. Maybe I was just tired and my cones and rods were playing tricks on me. 🤷🏻‍♂️😉
    Great exercise, thanks. 🙏

  • @fallingleaves3985
    @fallingleaves3985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very powerful pointing

  • @aaronshowers1613
    @aaronshowers1613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I tried it briefly for a little while but I have to practice more but it seems like there one

    • @aaronshowers1613
      @aaronshowers1613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have to experiment more to get a deeper feel

    • @cps_Zen_Run
      @cps_Zen_Run 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The illusion of 3-D projection is presented in a mirror or movie screen; yet we cannot reach “into” either. Consciousness presents itself similarly. Modified as needed; a car, house, mountain or sun , at no distance in Consciousness. Drop the Thoughts, Labels, and BE as Consciousness. Amazing & Wonderful.

  • @BobSlapnik-fc6mb
    @BobSlapnik-fc6mb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today I tried this exercise in the garden taking attention back a forth between objects at the edges and at the center. At first objects at the edges were fuzzy and formless and objects in the center were in focus. As I got more still and stayed with it there was less distinction between the edges and center. The center became formless similar to what was being seen at the edges and awareness of the edges increased. The new way of seeing would last a short time then revert when the mind kicked in. I suspect that practicing could acclimate the mind to accept what is being seen and stop interfering.

  • @renethomas5757
    @renethomas5757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's so hard to do it without moving my eyes

  • @Nothing_That_Is_Everything
    @Nothing_That_Is_Everything 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am really experiencing there is no inside or outside after doing this inquiry. It's as if space is infinite and experiences are experienced...almost like bubbles coming up to the surface of conscious awareness and then bursting. Experience is constant bubbles with no particular self in the middle perceiving it all. Experience perceives the bubbles arising and popping, but no self to be found!
    Thank you Angelo for your teachings, I have been really drawn to your no-self videos, and now with this inquiry I deeply see there is no self. For context "I" have been hanging out with non-dual awareness for a few years now, so this really does seem like the next natural step in non duality unfolding, which you have almost said word for word in on of your videos I believe.

  • @louisevs9152
    @louisevs9152 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a collapsing of space/distance, very intimate. And then the sense of a central location of me dissolves as well. Doing this exercise, makes this process visible. More often this collapsing happens instantly, without me noticing any order of events. So thank you! It helps to see the mental movement of distancing as an effort. But the thing is, the collapsing of space doesn't seem to be experienced through my eyes. More like, from my heart (I know this seems to point at a specific location but it's there and not there, all at the same time). Can you relate to this?

  • @hamburgerjungs1149
    @hamburgerjungs1149 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After moving attention back to your face it was suddenly not rendered clearly. The lights and darks were not really seen as depth but more like glitchy color islands. You looked way older and like many people at once…
    When moving between what feels like me and out there, attention is shifting between tightness in my throat and the visual. There is no evidence for the sensation to be anywhere, but it still very much feels like its back here somehow.

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Awesome, not bad for first run

  • @nbenda
    @nbenda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    oh my, I got quite a broader blurred vision like in periphery, only not in central vision...

  • @JoelSemar
    @JoelSemar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just a note for folks with glasses it may help to take them off for this

  • @tonyt1551
    @tonyt1551 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The scenery is Exactly scenery, the sound is exactly sound. No middle manager was ever hired or needed. He just started showing up for work around 2 years old 😅but nobody can see him because he's a ghost.

  • @carolinebielby5924
    @carolinebielby5924 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cant get we are here like in some form we live a life and die and just disappear like what is the whole life about it makes me feel strange just thinking about it

  • @paul-ie
    @paul-ie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this meant to be sort of more of a "pre-awakening" exercise?
    I have a feeling this is one of the "best" videos you've put out

  • @exercisethedemons
    @exercisethedemons 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

  • @bradstewart7007
    @bradstewart7007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a bit of strange experience while trying this this morning. I was focused on a clump of leaves on.tree across the street while doing step 4 (subject-object back and forth) and my entire field of vision turned into a uniform repetition of that same clump of leaves, sort like a kaleidoscope. I got a bit startled and lost the effect. I'm not sure whether it was just from looking at the same object for long period or if that is something that can happen in this exercise.

  • @stephenvankleeck4801
    @stephenvankleeck4801 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the first time I had a sense of the 3D collapsing into a 2D surface.

    • @renko9067
      @renko9067 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait till it goes 0 D 😊

  • @XxRavenx
    @XxRavenx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I dont even know whats going anymore. I thought I used to know stuff and now Im just like "Oooh wavey" All I feel is the movement of the waves. Hell I don't even know where the waves stops and I begin. Angelo I thought I was supposed to see spirits and dragons! What's going on?

  • @kennyhaughan9605
    @kennyhaughan9605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No space between “will and representation”

  • @Autophany
    @Autophany 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the point in identifying the nondual state? In what way is it connected to awakening?

  • @capricepascoerealtor519
    @capricepascoerealtor519 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only got the chandelier I was looking at to start moving in my head..

  • @lunkerjunkie
    @lunkerjunkie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice artwork,
    the crumbling facade, yeah?

  • @michaelabrams908
    @michaelabrams908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But the "out there" has different distances to it. Unlike "3D" things on a screen, which all feel the same to a hand, I can reach out and touch things that are close to me (confirming with tactile sense the distance) but can't touch things that are far away. I know this is all just thinking, but it's a major stumbling block. Is conciousness just playing a game by making a tactile illusion match the visual?

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well yeah as I said at the beginning of the video if you don't approach it with direct experience, and rather conceptualize it will be essentially useless.

    • @michaelabrams908
      @michaelabrams908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough, but, uh … what’s the answer?

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelabrams908There is only one way for you to know this answer and it has nothing to do with words. No amount of words I can string together (which will be reflected in your mind as thoughts) will give you the answer you are asking for. It’s like trying to taste chocolate with a screwdriver, it’s simply the wrong tool for the job.

  • @julian9898
    @julian9898 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont know if I did it right... the form of your face definitely broke down... there was heightened contrast... a bit of tunnel vision... your face was a bit closer to blobs of color than an actual clear face. It was a bit trippy, tbh!

    • @SimplyAlwaysAwake
      @SimplyAlwaysAwake  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like you did it right :)))

  • @lauryville
    @lauryville 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:14 misunderstood instructions, i farted

  • @kazuno1774
    @kazuno1774 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Id rather die than not wake up fully, and if it comes to it ill waste my life away persuing it, i dont care.

    • @cps_Zen_Run
      @cps_Zen_Run 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @kaz… Perhaps the biggest obstacle prohibiting being Awake or Enlightened, IMHO, is thinking that we are not already. JUST THIS is Everything, including You. Accept JUST THIS as it is, or not. Either way, JUST THIS remains…Amazing and Wonderful.