FLEX vs Milwuakee (Hammer Drills)
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I appreciate you sacrificing your living expenses for the wood for these tests😉
😂🤣😂
All the feels...
I was thinking the same thing. He spends the money on all that lumber.
A 6' piece of 2x4 is 11 dollars
lol
Another great one Dave thanks, you're the man and thanks for how these videos help in figuring out which tools to purchase to save money
Great video again..can’t wait for more “Flex” vs the world…😊😊…not too shabby..👍👍👍
Nice video and testing. Thank you for showing us this.
Can you make a tshirt with "aight so, right here is goooood", "aight so, ready... go!" and "TIME!" on them? :D
LOL! Now that’s funny!
lol
Lol don't forget, " It did it, it did it"
Don't forget the shirt that says "So... yeah."
Good video man - I always enjoy your testing!
Thank you!
You tell Milwuakee I will buy storm trooper edition drills for twice the price! Good video!
Both are really powerful tools. The Flex seems to be faster in most test. Mine is so far so good. The only thing is that when I run it on turbo that your not suppose to do all the time it gets really hot. The heat is concentrated in the handle right above the battery. That's only on turbo other than that you could run that drill in regular speed all day.
Good information. Thanks for sharing.
Brand new 24V system vs. a 18V system that is a couple years old? I would hope the Flex beats it. If not, then Flex has a serious issue.
Got the new ryobi hp hammer drill at home, and the milwaukee one at work
Love both of them !
Keep up for the good work
French viewer
Awesome! good to hear you like them,
Best comparison
Flex is super fast on the Concrete in hammer mode impressive @Man Caver Tools
tool reviews rule and you do them perfectly
I was at work I do like your video and your channel
I thank you Tammy
Damn,I'm shocked that Flex did surprisingly well!😳🙈I have all Ryobi tools so far....wouldn't mind checking out flex brand hmmm....👏👏👏👍😏What a great vid//TEST Dave keep it up!
I am glad to hear you enjoyed it and I do thank you for viewing
Chillin on a Friday night watching some classic Mancaver head 2 heads💯🔥✊
I thank you INT :)
another nice test.
I thank you Chris
I watched this when released. I just watched flex vs dewalt flex. And this video again. It be nice to see the flagships from Milwaukee dewaly Makita and flex in the same video with same test!
Not too shabby
Next video... TTI asked for their shirt back😂🤣
lol
Oh a little secret for you. When you tighten your chuck down, tighten it then turn it the opposite way one click. It locks in the racheting chuck. Most don't know that. You will feel the click on the Milwaukee and most others actually make a noise
Nice
The Milwaukee is a good match for the Flex since they can both be considered somewhat compact vs the more powerful full size drills that DeWalt and Hilti produce. On one hand you could say Milwaukee was actually kind of favored here since it had a 21700 cell battery pack and the Flex did not, but on the other hand Flex's batteries are absolutely massive so that this is a more reasonable comparison for their size. Great test though, and I wonder how Flex will hold up over the years. That is what will make or break them as a brand.
Finally. For a tool company that came out so headstrong there seems to be a real lack of these tool channels doing real reviews of the tool vs the rest in the industry. There’s hundreds of reviews of Milwaukee Ryobi Dewalt. Trying to find one for flex versus the other brands like a needle in a haystack. Makes you wonder why these channels have been so silent all these weeks. The other channels talk about flex but they’re not competing other brands against flex.
DeWalt makes the best hammer drills. The DCD998/999. Milwaukee is more known for their impact drivers and sawzalls. Skil is known for the Skilsaw circular saws.
@@ecoRfan that may be but that’s never stopped most channels from doing head to head duals. I have nothing against Flex. Thinking of giving them a try but the lack of show has holding off. I guess it comes down to, I’ve heard a lot of talk. I’ve not seen a lot of action.
Philly Fixed has done head-to-head comparisons on them.
That’s one out of how many channels? I was just hoping for more sooner. Just have to wait.
Interesting video Dave 🤔
I thank you Jamal
Noob question really looking into buying Flex tools sometime soon, is this model of the hammer drill the better version? And is the impact drivers FX1371A model the better one as well?
So if you had to pick between Ridgid latest and greatest Hammer Drill vs this Flex Hammer Drill which would you choose? Not sure if you already did a video comparison for it already.
you have a battery backlash on yours m18 Milwaukee drill? ( just a little bit or more?)
1 thing I don't like about about the Milwaukee hammer drill is the clutch selector dosen't need to be that wide they could of made it more compact by making the selector slimmer I have the Milwaukee Dave @Man Caver Tools
I'm hoping for a new hammerdrill impact driver combo kit they are already the king of impact drivers but id love one with tri beam lights and more power
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Nice video man! Good stuff. Keep them coming.
Appreciate it!
Can you test soon metabo / hikoki dv36da vs flex ?
You should do like them other guys and and have a standings board for the results you get. I always find tools lists that are ranked based on performance to be super helpful when researching and shopping. So would the DeWalt currently be at the top of the board?
Throughout all these vs tests I watch, despite one brand maybe having a generally small time advantage , I need to know the tool I'm using is going to consistently work and get my job done over a long period of time. Until Flex can offer me a large variety of the solid price and product deals I can get with proven brands. Dewalt , Milwaukee, Makita I am not going to shell out more money per product unless I am getting value back. The deals that are available for these other brands are amazing , and the options are endless. I appreciate Flex can win a time test here and there, not always but where is the incentive to buy these Flex right now. I can certainly wait till the prices come way down and the battery choices and options are much better.
I still love watching these vids, but just like Festool or Hilti may be better for some applications here and there, more bang for the buck keeps them out of the majority of tool bags. Flex just doesn't spark any interest in me to but the product.
Well said
Flex has a lifetime founders warranty for any tools purchased until the end of the year, covering the tool, battery, and battery charger just an FYI. The price is pretty significant all the same.
Or more buck for the bang.
In my opinion. Milwaukee is more powerful. Flex is faster. Guess it depends on ur needs. I personally go with power, because I drill a lot with holesaw bits, and I already think my Milwaukee is too fast sometimes. I'm sure others might like more speed tho.
@Star Gazer1212 yeah 2 speeds. Crazy fast and slow
Power and speed are 2 different things entirely. If both drills can complete the task without much resistance speed wins. The more resistance the more power plays a part until ultimately one drill completes the task and the other doesn’t.
Milwaukee is a 3yr old drill and still has as much power as the drills being put out today. I can only imagine what their next offering will be come later this year or next.
Only thing I don’t like about the Milwaukee is the setting selector. It’s made of plastic and I’d prefer something sturdier. Other than that it’s a great drill.
I also really like the flex tools. Future is bright with both brands no downside.
Next gen Milwaukee blows this thing out of the water hands down
It’s amazing how much better the flex did in this test then the first time you tested them
it all depends on what tests I do. this was an average video with medium level tests. I only do hardcore tests with certain videos
I tried Milwaukee on 2 and 1 and I noticed it runs in concrete better if you set it on first gear.
Ready...Go.
yes sir
I have burned out two moters concrete drilling with my Milwaukee drill haha
I like your videos.. but u look like that Farva cop from super troopers movie 😁
lol
flex 24v. I would like to know what the weight is as it comes in the suitcase since in my country we pay weight tax
Still pretty close with all the major brands… Hey would you consider flipping a new log on its side for future testing??? Maybe as an extra part of testing?? I find this method more consistent when I do it this way 🤙
it is still a very powerful drill
The high output battery will definitely help the Flex on power. I’m still surprised Flex used the 18,650 cells in the 2.5 & 5.0 amp batteries.
Great test! 👍
its the juice in the cells that makes the difference. The cell numbers refer to the amount of material that can be put in. Even though they used 18650 it could be a more potent cocktail that what some companies put in their 21700
I believe it would as well
I want you review makita and flex
I just started collecting Ryobi tools and was wondering if you could send me a bare tool? I have the inflator and the multi tool so far
Hi! I live in Vietnam. I am looking to buy a battery screwdriver and I am deciding between the 3 brands that I think are the best: Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt. I know that your channel has accurate, objective and reputable assessments of the quality of machinery brands. Please give me your opinion on my question: I want to choose a battery-powered screwdriver that lasts over time, a machine with the longest average life, 1 of 3 brands Makita, Milwaukee and Dewalt. A machine that can be used for a long time over time includes factors: getting wet due to going out in the rain, being hit hard by falling, the possibility of damage to the control circuit board with long-term use and other damages. other miscellaneous miscellaneous. Please let me know which of the 3 brands I should choose for long-term use according to the factors I mentioned above.
What I like is the milwaikee was always top dog. Dewalt was right up there as well. But when a new tool has the power to be a contestant with the top brands....it excites me. I bought flex push button driver and I love it. I think I'm getting the flex turbo next, even though I really want the milwaukee. There's something about flex that calls to me.. now again I work at lowes and absolutely want dewalts 998 hammer drill but I don't know why. Something says get the flex turbo monster
That Power Detect is a beast as well
@@ManCaverTools Who makes FLEX drill ❓❓
These tests are great if your a tournament hole driller… for the most part if they were 10sec apart ifs not much of a inconvenience
What hammer drill do recommend. Im on the makita platform, but I bought a milwaukee impact. I'm also looking to get flex when the come to Canada. Impact for sure might get the hammer drill as well. My makita kit is about 7yrs old
the best one on the market that I tested was the Dewalt Power Detect
Thanks you for the time to replay. I will look into thats drill
I'd like to see the Flex with that 8.0Ah battery
The Flex sounded like a corded drill on the concrete.
Next up Flex vs Dewalt DCD999 or DCD996. Thumbs up.
I thank ou Isuzu
I got an ad for Lowe’s on this vid showing “Lowe’s List” with Flex tools.
That sounds better than the American Standard toilet ad I got, lol.
@@FyrFytr998 and AS toilets are sold at Lowe’s and Home Depot among other places go figure.
I like testing tools the way they came.
Competitively against another brand? Why is that? That’s the worst way to test a tool, because it won’t be apples to apples. Take the Milwaukee Fuel G3 Hammer Drill for instance. If Dave were to have received or purchased as “tool only” then you’d run it up against the competitor without a battery?
See how ridiculous that is?
@@martylucas8557 so, in your hypothetical scenario, Ryobi would have sent an incomplete tool to Dave to test and review? See how ridiculous that sounds?
Clearly, I have to explain to you what I meant. Testing the tools as they come means that you test the tools the way they were kitted at the store or with the battery they came with.
I didn't think I would ever have to explain that but...
@@ToolswithSoAlz, you didn’t have to explain anything to me, I thought the over dramatization of using no battery since the tool came with no battery explained how I felt about testing tools as kitted. It’s a silly way to test a tool. Think about it for a minute, let’s say Milwaukee has an over abundance of older 18650, 2 amp batteries they want to get rid of. So they package the 2 amp battery, with a charger, as a special promotion with a Gen 3 FUEL Hammer Drill. Because the deal was good and the battery or batteries were free the tester decided to purchase that kitted tool. Would you then feel it a good test to put it up against the Flex 24 Volt Hammer Drill which came kitted with 5 amp batteries or another drill that came kitted with 21700 and 2 or 3 times the amperage? If you truly felt that fair, then you probably wouldn’t have very good viewership. That or you’re going to have a lot of ticked off viewers.
Therefor...as kitted is not a good or equitable way to have a heads up test. What do you feel is gained by testing in this manner? Vince @ VCG was testing as kitted for a while and received a lot of backlash. He received it for a good reason. Because he wasn’t marrying the tool or tools with the best offering from the manufacturer. It left a lot of people believing that the horse they had in the race would’ve won, had it been equipped with a similar battery as the competition.
@@martylucas8557 this is laughable. I got it. Testing tools the way you buy then is silly. Kind of like continuing a conversation with you.
@@ToolswithSoAlz, you don’t get it because you have rocks in your head. Your original comment was...”I like testing tools the way they came”. What if one came with no battery, another with a 2 amp battery, another with an 8 amp HO battery and the competitive tool came with a 5 amp battery? If you tested those tools as “they came”, it would be the stupidest test ever! Tool test channels that know what they’re doing will equip each tool as closely as the other one being tested, in order to allow an apples to apples test. Otherwise....what’s the use?
Do I really need to spell this out for you? You’re starting to annoy me!!
I have the one key Model Of the gen 3 hammer drill
Which one will you recommend for electrical work
id go for the Milwaukee, its a lot more compact
Old or not the Milwaukee is a top notch drill
Can you do ridgid octane versus flex
yes I can
yes
It looked like flex had more trouble with the lags
When will you test the 40 volt program of makita?
once I am able to buy them I will
So is TTI supplying you with tools and gear?
If so does that make this a TTI sponsored video?
they are not. I only accept free tools form HILTI
The question is, which drill gets hotter overall?
Milwaukee has been known to get hotter than other brands, but the gen 4 seems to put out more air for better cooling.
By the way, the 2804 has been proven to be one of the most powerful drills on the market.
very good ill have to pick it up soon
I’ve held a Flex once and it felt super super heavy. Any thoughts on that?
it is a very heavy tool. I wouldn't use flex. there are much lighter options
Need a gen 4 milwaukee vs the flex
Do you ever test makita tools?
Yes, I do a lot
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Glad I didn't buy junk. Ive had to upgrade my drills/up impact for years. I bought the Flex t he is morning. The main reason to choose this line ? Everyone else has DeWalt or Milwakee. This way I can always see and grab MY tools and not THIERS. I'm funny about using others tools and others using mine. Thanks for the review. Plus it came with a LIFETIME battery And tool warranty.
How are they holding up?
Hows the flex holding up?
I went out and bought the flex I think they are nice but heavy in my opinion and the quick Collet not really impressed with that feature I don’t like the fact that you have to push it in to insert a bit, what are your thoughts on the flex
For me durability is more important than a few seconds, I’m not sure about flex durability?
Myilwaukee gen 3 has a nasty habit of letting go of the bit its holding specially if its a big fella like a hole saw or something no matter how tight i do it or if i check it after the 1st use and retighten . It still often falls out after the next use. Its so very annoying
I agree that it is annoying.
I’ve used both on concrete and the biggest difference is the Milwaukee barely hits the ears and flex is so loud ur brain will melt. I can’t deal with the noise it’s bone shattering loud. It does work though just over twice as loud.
Those are both great tools! But i would still chose the Milwaukee
David, so would I. Not because I own one, but due to the longevity of the tool in the marketplace. The Milwaukee Fuel G3 Hammer Drill has probably been one of the Mose extensively tested drills ever. It’s won it’s fair share of tests. I mix buckets of mud and thin set with mine. Equipped with a 3 amp HO battery it’s a great all around drill. Not too heavy to work overhead, ergonomically well built and powerful!
@@martylucas8557 Good reasoning!
@@dav1d629, thanks David!
I would as well
@@ManCaverTools yep 👍
When you used the Hilti you could tell you were putting a lot of body weight on it, the Milwaukee you didn’t put much pressure at all, if you did, it would have changed sound.
that was from a different video that I uploaded a year ago
@@ManCaverTools, then why did you show it Dave? You wanted to represent something...what was it. I seem to remember the Milwaukee Fuel G3 Hammer Drill smoking the Hilti Hammer Drill.
@@martylucas8557 The milwauke time was significantly longer than the Hilti's. It was 11 seconds versus 4 or so. Body weight or no body weight, you just hate seeing a brand you worship get smoked by some Liechtenstein tool makers lmao
Are those imapact sockets being used on the lag bolts?
They don't look like it
They look like your standard Chrome sockets, don't need impact as there is no impact involved here.
no, im not using and impact wrench or impact driver. chrome sockets can easily withstand those lags on a drill
I’m confused u did these test before and the flex kept failing is this a different drill?
like I say in many videos, not every tool performs the same in every video. sometimes they fail sometimes they succeed
Flex is a #1 and impact drill to✌🏼✌🏼💪🏿🤠
Oh geez. You’re using a different battery in each tool. heard such actions will enrage the wildlife. Bears especially.
lol
What battery was on the milwaukee
6ah HO
So the Milwaukee (18V) beats, or nearly beats the Flex (24V), in every category. It’s like comparing the M12 vs the M18. The Milwaukee is a far better drill in my opinion. The Flex needs years to prove itself, and need another hundred + tools to even be considered. I understand it’s a “new” brand, but the competition it’s going up against is pretty strong.
Your nuts. The flex beat it in every category except when he handicapped it by turning off the turbo button for the lags. It's factually a stronger tool. Its 1200punds torque vs 1400pounds torque. He's even using a high output battery on the milwaukee and it still lost every test. I'm a milwaukee guy and now own the flex also. I use both drills almost everyday with my guys at work and the flex hammerfrill outperforms the Milwaukee. Not as much of a difference as the impact driver which is faster and stronger by far but it is still considerably stronger with the hammerdrill. Milwaukee will no doubt come out with a stronger tool and then one of the other companies will try again. It's so weird people won't admit the right now the flex is the stronger tool.
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What planet are you on ?
I agree with you on that
Does anyone know when flex is coming to the uk ?
I do not know Kianfoulkes
I wonder if the Milwaukee would've competed better if you'd used a 9.0 or 12.0 Amp battery? It would've levelled the playing field a bit given that the Flex has an extra cell?
Meh...no...
remember, Flex said the fastest most powerful hammer drill not he market. this video says otherwise
The 9.0 wouldn’t provide much of a boost over the HO 6.0, it might be a bit weaker. Standard 18650s in the 9.0 vs high drain 21700s in the HO 6.0.
And I don't really see the point in timing them while reversing, I personally don't care if my drill reverses bolts/screws out a half a second slower than the competition
I'm probably your biggest critique, I gave you a pretty hard time when your first flex videos drop but these in my opinion were much more fair. I still don't really see why not just slap the same size battery on all of the tools. I'd like so see a comparison with the big three with their 8.0s
It would only be fair or apples to apples if all tools used similar amperage batteries. Whether they’re 21700 cells or not is up to the manufacturer, if they aren’t available the other manufacturers tool shouldn’t be penalized.
@@martylucas8557 21700 cells don't make the difference you think they do. A high draw 18650 will outperform a standard draw 21700. The flex is probably already using higher output 18650 cells. The problem comes when you're changing the size of the pack because of the available current. I really wouldn't care if the flex has its 2.5 and the Milwaukee had a 3 h.o. I think that would actually be a fair comparison because of the size and most people would run their tools that way. The truth is the flex used the battery it came with and the Milwaukee got a $150 upgrade. Which I'm not crying foul because it wouldn't matter either way the flex won I just don't see why not run the tools with the same size pack. Why not just throw the 12.0 on all of them. I don't really care who makes what pack which direction with what sticker on it. I just know there's an apples to apples comparison to be had and for whatever reason mct is very scared of running all of these tools on am even playing field. Whether it's speed selection of battery size there's always something to try and protect the tools he's been calling the best for so long. I wonder why vcg isn't doing the same stuff 🤔
@@TheVdog12, first of all the Flex didn’t win. It won a couple of tests, but the Milwaukee won the majority. Milwaukee has optimized their 21700 cell batteries to work more efficiently in their FUEL designated tools, with communication between the battery, electronics and the tool. I’ve seen the Flex hammer drill perform poorly during some tests and better another day during a different test. What I know I can count on is the Milwaukee Fuel Gen 3 performing consistently well.
All that really matters is each tool being tested be equipped with the best battery the manufacturer has to offer, then with the same number of amps. It may never be truly apples to apples, but that’s as fair and close as you can probably get.
@@martylucas8557 first and foremost you sound like a Milwaukee pr bot. Second of all I don't know what video your watching but the flex won every single test with the exception of three of the four lag bolt tests. So yes the flex won quite comfortably with it's 18650 cell battery pack while the milwaukee used a 21700 pack. You're clearly out of your wheel house and have been sold hard on Milwaukee pr so I'll give you some really easy pointers. Milwaukee's "redlink intelligence" is quite literally a worthless marketing point. Every tool manufacturer puts a chip in their tools that communicates with the hard ware in a battery pack through software to regulate certain things like draw and temperature. Every cordless tool ever has had to do it and Milwaukees technology isn't any different than Bauer in that regard. Milwaukee does however use very good motors and program their tools to output more power which has been shown to decrease the life of their tools but people seem happy with the trade off of losing a little bit of life for the power which is fine. Also your comment on "you've seen the flex perform poorly" this is a ridiculous statement on its face. What you watched was mct lean on the drill as hard as he could when he first got it because he wanted to trash flex which is also fine. Pretty much every reviewer on the platform is showing that the flex is the superior tool and now here we're getting a fair comparison and the flex won.
@@TheVdog12 tell em🤘😎
Definitely looked like your were pushing harder for the Hilti 🤷♂️
nope
Sorry flex may be a tad faster but overall milwaukee is the better brand/product
Comparing a 24v tool to an 18v tool would not be considered a fair test/comparison. Back in the day 12v drills were replaced with 18v tools because they were more powerful and provided more runtime.
Get that Metabo HPT 36V
It will compete with all of them and beat em in some tests
that will be coming soon
Did he use an air blower before measuring the temp?
12:23
to clean the surface of a work bench lol
New Ridgid high output vs flex?
that video will be coming soon
Why the hell did you turn off the Turbo on the lag test?
because the turbo mode would make it fail
@@ManCaverTools Turbo mode won't make it fail in speed 1.
@@ManCaverTools Turbo mode will not make it fail in speed 1.
@@jdelapaz14 driving in a 10" lag it will
@@jdelapaz14 wanna know how I know that. I already did a video on it failing at the 10" lag with a turbo on on speed 1. I do more then 1 video on each of these tools.
Need to take a lesson from Project Farm
Why is it every time you do the Milwaukee it appears to be in reverse. Happened vs the dewalt too.
lol, its not in reverse
It definitely was the first time an it sure looks like it again.
That flex almost drills out concrete as fast as my dewalt.
Haha 🤣😁😁Dewalt is for wood peckers
You have to leave the Turbo mode on in speed one. Why didn't you show it in turbo to just in case. It's like you're trying to make the Milwaukee win.
because it wouldn't help out the flex, the rpm's would be too high to do those tasks and would make the flex fail at it
Is it fair to compete 18v to 24v motor?😅
lol
Yes. It’s completely fair, both are trying to be the product you buy. Just the same as it would be fair to compare 12V, 36/40V, corded, and even air against each other.
Pullover - No it's a cardigan but thanks!
MCT I would like to see that flex hammer drill against ridgid hammer drill
that video is coming soon
my money is on the makita