FLEX vs Milwaukee (8ah 21700 Cell Batteries)
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I read enough comments to do a MCT short with the Milwaukee using a 6ah battery and the flex using the 8ah with driving in a 10in lag, Video will be 2 minutes long, video will be uploaded today, 7/25/21
Is this a member only video, or did it not get uploaded? I am excited to see more of these videos with the 21700 cells.
Is there a link? I don’t see it in the 2 Minute or Shorts playlists
Nice flex. Let's see how long they last in the field. And after the concrete test reminds me why I use a proper Rotor hammer
man ppl reallt get uncomfortable w tbe flex doing well. I get it. I got the flex. still got all mt other red ans yellow tools. still love them. bht the flex are damn powerful. I use them ecery single day running trex. wide open. the flex is the real deal. no doubt about ir. their marketing is corny but the tools are foreal
Got that ryobi clip fan a month ago and literally bring it all over the house with me all the time. I love it
I do as well. I love that fan
heh man. genuinely appreciate you giving us this fire content. really getting into the flex & seeing id it's the real deal.
that is why this channel is here and I appreciate
Flex is clearly the better tool. We’ll see on dependability, but lifetime warranty takes care of that concern. Biggest issue with flex is the lack of bare tool sales and a much smaller line. Lots of Milwaukee fanboys are going to continue finding excuses why the test is wrong or why the tests don’t matter. I’m sure Milwaukee will put out a new model that out performs the flex but it clearly doesn’t today.
They are coming out with a ton of more tools this was just to get them started
Flex doesn't have a lifetime warranty that was just for a promotional period their warranty is 5 years we will see if they hold up if so they seem like a great option also just checking the lowes website they have a lower end brushless impact driver that is less chunky and is supposed to deliver 1800 inch lbs
@@wappiercer7306 all of 2021 is a lifetine warranty. thsn its 5 yr as of 2022
@@nicksweezy2813 hence promotional period
I'm not a Milwaukee fanboy but I am invested in the line and see no point in switching. These tools are far more powerful than our old power tools. Both tools are great but Milwaukee lost this test hands down. Welcome to the game Flex!
I just got my first flex set and I’m impressed
That FLEX is gigantic haha imagine working with that thing all day. It's a freaking brick
Did back in the day with a dewalt dw997 hammer drill 18 v nicad it was big as anything sad that to get 21700 cells on flex you got to get a 8.0 ah battery ridgid might be now lower torque numbers in the max output but they start at 6.0 ah battery with 21700 cell wait to the fall when they drop that new hammer drill from this might be looked at different and the same with all max output tools the 8.0 ah will have 21700 cell too not knocking flex just big and heavy i know the octane is big and heavy is anything so is metabo's top of the line hammer a drill with 1250 inch pounds of torque forgot the BPM on that I just know that one's not cheap the price of that kit you can buy whole flex kit or Milwaukee gen 3 kit
@@bluemantom77, reading what you write is guaranteed an instant headache! I’m sure you have good information to share, but it’s extremely difficult to read a 100 - 200 word run on sentence…
@@martylucas8557 I think I lost some IQ trying to read his post.
@@martylucas8557 For real, after trying to read it I have gained nothing from what he said. If there was formatting to make it multiple sentences I am sure that there was good information, but in its current state a person will only gain a headache and not the information that was trying to be conveyed.
@@bluemantom77 21700 cells are 4 Ah, and woud be some 5 Ah in the future. One row of 21700 is good up to 40-42 A max, so less then two row 18650 cells that is good up to 40-46 A. There is a weight diference, some 100 grams more for the 2 row of 18650, but that is important only for lighter tools, not for huge top of the line drills weighting 2.1-2.7 Kg. For a Bosch GSR 18V-55/55 is good a 4Ah pack pro core with 21700 cells, but for a 18V-150 you realy need the 8 Ah pack coz' that drill has world best 84 Nm soft torque and 150 hard torque, and needs a lot of amps. The Bosch pro core 4Ah compact pack has 536-538 grams ( 515 spect...), and Makita 5 Ah with 2 row 18650 has less then 100 grams more.
Flex is very impressive! I'm a dewalt guy but I am jealous of how compact Milwaukee and flexs tools are
I’m at the point if the tool is comfortable, accurate, less cumbersome, has good weight, will last and gets the job done then that’s the tool for me. Sometimes faster isn’t always better.
I agree with you on that
akaredcrossbow, BS! Isn't that's what Milwaukee used to be before the Flex came around?! Isn't that Milwaukee was the fastest and the strongest of the other high end tool brand that exists??? Isn't that Milwaukee was the king 👑, the Champion 🏆, the undefeated, the Unrivaled king of Powertools??? Now 35.98 secs of Milwaukee Gen fuel higher end Brushless Hammer Drill with a 21700 Cells 8.0Ah battery is not good for that Title!! So that means Milwaukee's best time of 35.98 had also been beaten by a Ryobi HP Hammer drill with only just a 4.0Ah 18650 cell lithium ion battery! See this is what I'm talking about, not Everytime Milwaukee is the king 👑. Milwaukee gotta LOSE sometimes, and that my friend is what is happening now, Milwaukee have been starting losing. 35.98 secs. Ryobi beaten the Milwaukee, so that means Lowe's Kobalt can also beat Milwaukee, DeWalt and Makita as well. Same thing with Skil brand, and Walmart's Hart tools. They can beat Milwaukee, DeWalt and Makita. This is the testament that Milwaukee is Slowing down. Being so greedy so for many years Milwaukee deserved to get beat down. Instead of Milwaukee should go back to the drawing board and science lab TTI became so over confident and complicent that "Milwaukee is the best tool in the world" well not anymore! 🤣 But with having said all that I'm the kind of guy that is not loyal to any tool brand. I'm the guy that uses tools whatever I have and whatever is around to get things done. Even though I have the Flex tools some calls it the "Godzilla" aka Milwaukee Killer. I still have my old tools such as DeWalt dcf885 dcd785 Hammer Drill, dwe575SB corded circular saw w/ brake, DeWalt dcf887 and dcd796 hammer drill, I got Bosch CSW41 corded Worm Drive Saw. Bosch Freak impact driver/wrench, Bosch corded HD18-2 Hammer Drill. Got Makita xdt16z impact driver, Makita 5377Mg Hypoid Saw corded, Makita SJS 5" corded angle grinder, Makita pneumatic framing nailer, Hitachi corded 12" Sliding Miter Saw, Ryobi HP 4 speed impact driver and the new HP Hammer drill also Ryobi corded 10" Compound Miter Saw, corded Electric Planer, orbital sander, angle grinder. DeWalt corded table saw. And just so you know even though I have branded and expensive tools, I also do own some cheap stuffs like harbor freight tools Hercules brand impact driver and hammer drill bit they're both brush not brushless. I switch them out and doing rotations on all of my tools in the jobsite. Except the Flex tools! They're expensive as hell they're like Supercars.
@@twinbee4243 dude..
Oooo, the long wait video!!! The new Mil drill will kill everything. Wait for new version. Maybe this autumn?
Don’t have to wait long it’s announced and it’s a complete rip off of Flex 💪 without flex you’d still be waiting another year
When will you test the Flex circular saws against Milwaukee and Dewalt?
Dull holesaw is what i looked like. Use a 2-9/16 self feeder. That takes more torque and will show power and torque
Your content has been on fire lately🔥
The Flex is so bulky looking it’s almost cartoonish. I’ll stick with the Milwaukee with a 3 ah HO battery.
FYI, the Milwaukee G3 Hammer Drill will perform at it’s best with the 6 ah HO battery. That means more torque than the 8ah HO and 12ah HO. For reference and to back up see the Torque Rest Channel.
I was actually just going to comment that he pasted it in there to look bigger because he is biased against FLEX... it's actually not much bigger than the Milwaukee I have both... side-by-side in real life they don't look like that
My Dewalt is nearly double the size!
My god those things are huge!
Get yourself a screwdriver if u can't hold a Flex tool.There built for heavy work.If u want a toy get the red 1
So is turbo mode just a capacitor in the tool that the battery temporarily charges and then when the tool is used in turbo the capacitor expends itself allowing for a little more power to the motor?
I enjoy from your videos 😊❤❤❤
In 1960 , it introduced the first cordless electric drill, powered by a nickel-cadmium battery. Meanwhile, Black + Decker contracted with Martin Marietta to design tools for NASA, including a zero-impact wrench that turned bolts without spinning the astronaut.
Man that flex is something,
I hate seeing that nice shiny chuck get pushed into the concrete block. 😬
That Flex battery being 24V and using Chervon's cell cooling sleeves just makes it comically huge. They really need to make batteries with unsleeved cells to use with drills and other one handed tools that won't stress the batteries that much to make them more practically sized.
Well said Spencer, agreed! It looks like a 60 volt DeWalt battery! 😳😬😀🤣
Can u test the FLEX nailers...oh wait they don't have any my bad
Pretty sure they will in the not so distant future. They’re a new company.
They will.and they'll also out perform Milwaukee....again
I don't think will. They have had Kobolt out forever and they still don't have a nailer. Guess who makes FLEX...Chervon the people that make Kobolt. I like ur optimism tho Craig
@@shermanwilliams7724 you may be right, but I think they’ll eventually get one.
From minute 7.20 what kind of screw is that?
time~~~~ 듣기 너무 좋아요~중독성이 있네요.
Good video hope to see more videos like this maybe test the new max output line once the 6.0 ah and 8.0 batteries are out I'm sure those tools were rented their full capacity and give the best performance now not so much from what I heard the max output batteries are only high output 18650 cells
I need to get the new RIDGID tools and I thank you for the suggestion Thomas
@@ManCaverTools you do the videos the way you might whenever you get the tool you get them with those tuna batteries will be the 21700 cells I don't know how true this is but I heard this from a rep at my local home Depot at rigid is working on a 12.0 battery who knows when and if there's an ETA on it
Where are you finding info about the flex 8ah battery having 21700 cells? I can’t find any info anywhere about that.
Dream !
The sticker invitation was generous of you! We'll reach out and send you a few. We have some room on our set as well for yours.
The flex hammer drill us the strongest, fastest one on the market at the moment.
I will give credit to flex. Pretty impressive
👍👍👍.
Thank you Constantin
That flex has a lot of power. The only thing I don't like about mine it heats up in the handle really bad. Maybe I have a defected model or I push it too hard...?
I will see in time if that becomes an issue with mine and I thank you Toolhead
Drills are getting too smart for me, Dave lol
Flex vs dewalt power detect. There is a must see
And yes the turbo does turn itself on and off automatically. Kinds cool but if you want turbo and it shuts itself off that's kinda bad. Imho
its a safety feature, but the turbo does seem to do really well with speed 1
It's not bad it's good... if you're doing something that needs torque and not RPM...it protects itself..it's a smart tool....🤔
@@boosted2.4_sky what if you're wanting the power but it won't give it to you because it keeps shutting it off automatically what do you do then. Exactly if you're worried that you're going to twist your wrist put the handle on it and hang on
@@ManCaverTools yes, I am on the fence still about them. I've seen and heard about their power and I'm a huge Milwaukee fan boy!lol. Great video man. Newer to the channel but enjoy your stuff
That flex bat looks like my trucks battery
Imagine thinking milwaukee won't make a new tool that's far more powerful 🤣
Very nice. Will stick with Milwaukee. Rather get makita 40v if we’re really pushing for performance.
I want to test the makita 40v out so badly
Flex definitely makes milwaukee fan boys cry "use a high output battery🥺" is all I ever hear😂 I love milwaukee but flex came to their door with a purpose and I love it. Competition is good 👍 maybe milwaukee will stop raising their prices now
Yes and quality control is important as well which I think Milwaukee and dewalts quality control has gone downhill I’ve owned a dewalt and Milwaukee b4 they sold out and became Chinese tools and they were a better tool then with better quality control so I agree compitition is important for price and quality control
Flex 💪
Flex for the win!!! 💪💪💪
Again...
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Even though flex won you gotta give credit to Milwaukee for giving flex a run for it's money. Especially it being a model that's been out for so long now. Milwaukee hasn't been great with concrete though cause I've seen the old Ryobi p251 hammer drill Keep up with the milwaukee in concrete.
Yea not sure that hole saw was a good representation, doesn't look like there Milwaukee slowed down, just the hole saw took longer to cut through the wood, which is evident by how far the wood was in the hole saw on the Milwaukee run vs flex
Here’s how I look at things. When you buy a tool you’re really putting faith into the company. Faith that they took there time and built a good product and you can trust that if it isn’t where you want it to be they’re working on it to get better. Input faith into Milwaukee because they’ve proven over the years that push come to shove they will continue to innovate without fail so we know what the future holds.
2nd when comparing these 2 drills I believe the Flex is the most powerful. But Milwaukee is the most advanced. Yes it’s true. When you use an iphone the challenge for apple was first to make the best phone. It could be gigantic as long as it was the best. Then over time they mastered it and tried to make it smaller. That’s real innovation to get the same performance with smaller parts and real estate. That shows the commitment from the company. It took a lot more ingenuity to put the Milwaukee together than the Flex where they just used the strongest parts without restriction. That tells you where the companies are.
Lastly Milwaukee has said previously that customers complained about the power so they try to find balance. You can be too strong and they were at that limit. This will only force them to give us a drill that none of us can use because they have the tech to do it or stay true to form and continue to make the best model of the drill for daily use.
Makita figured that out a long time ago and they’re right there with Milwaukee.
FLEX TRACKSAW if they do that, it would be a game changer. Beat Milwaukee to the market.
Flex is a very good brand
No head to head :( you should attach the drills to each other and pull the triggers
Flex looks strong
I'd still take the Milwaukee 2804 over the flex. It's smaller than the dewalt atomic hammer drill, same length as the dewalt atomic drill/driver.
both are very power tools. the Makita is not the most powerful impact driver but it is still my favorite
You like the Makita over the Milwaukee 2804?
@@dangrimes5078 Makita just isn't as powerful as the Milwaukee stuff but my father sticking with the Makita because not only does he have a million of their batteries....his job uses Makita too so he can "borrow" as well.
Maybe i will be wrong, but at the video you test max power of this two tools, ok, flex better speed perfomance, but this feature with turbo button doesnt work in real life, i mean ok i will drill 1-2 hole with turbo mode and i wiil do this faster than someone else and so what next? 3 and 4 and 6 holes i cant drill because turbo mode has some timeout for cool down drill motor and electronics, and i will drill rest holes like any other drills with same speed as they are
must compare 2 similar 24v segment machines to evaluate its power
That's not how it works buddy. Voltage isn't as important as overall performance.
Spyder's arbors are the same as Millwaukee's ..great hole saws...
Old tool?... it's not that old...it's not a 2021 tool...but it not old...lol
Why does everyone say it's a fair comparison? The Flex has 5 more 21700 cells than the Milwaukee. That equates to 35 to 40 more amps per cell! I'm posting this after watching the first 2 minutes. I will say that the other comparisons don't really do Flex any favors seeing as other competitors are really close if not slightly better in some tests.
I feel the Milwaukee H.O. 6 amp batteries seem more powerful than the 8 amp for some reason
I can put that to the test.
@@ManCaverTools I do believe the Samsung 21700 cells in the 6.0 are different than the 8.0 and crank out more amps so a bit more power. I have both and the 6.0 feels stronger that being said the Flex puts down the power. I'm sure someone will tear down the Flex 8.0 maybe it's using the same high amp 21700 the 6.0 is using that's why it looks gigantic LOL.
Its true 6 more torque then 8
It depends on the tool saws draw more current so a 8amp will better but a drill or impact driver draw less so a 6amp will do better, torque test channel did a comparison with a 6amp and 12amp battery on a impact wrench and the 6amp did better but other channels do comparison on circ saws and recip saws and the 12amp does better than the 6amp
@@loucifer323 Agreed kinda curious as too what 21700's the Flex batteries are using? The 8.0 here may have an extra row of 21700's that the 6.0 milwaukee is running that's why it looks bigger. If that's the case I guess 6.0 batteries with an extra row on a milwaukee 8.0 than it be on HAHAHA. It seems all there batteries may be running higher amp 21700's for that extra turbo edge no battery expert, but just a guess 🤷♂️
Phải so sánh 2 con máy cùng phân khúc 24v mới cân xứng
The hole saw had ben more use on the Milwaukee
sooooo the milwaukee has more torque than the flex? and does the flex need turbo mode to beat milwaukee?
I do think the the Flex needs turbo in certain situions, but that is the benefit of owning the flex
@@ManCaverTools ahhh I see
Second and I just need to get my task done and craftsman 3 speed impact driver get the job done
So it took the 8amp battery to back up flexes claims
my question is why didnt they use an 8ah battery in their promo video
All the claims they made it was already backed up all this did was prove its superiority over Milwaukee's best hammer drill..again
@@ManCaverTools that’s wtf I’m saying why didn’t they!!
@@boosted2.4_sky well this video shows that but the drill is up in age 🤷🏾♂️ but I’ll tell you without hesitation whatever Milwaukee comes out with next nothing can stand in its way
Milwaukee already has 4 Gens tho 😅 & still didn't do as good like Flex witch is new now just wait for the new gens of Flex
I would not carry the Flex tools on the job site. It’s to big and heavy. The top manufacturers are trying to both get smaller and lighter. The Flex does not meet that criteria.
Do u want a tool or a toy.I don't want my tool too feel like a feather.If I was a women or a real little kid that would be different
Ey don't FLEX on me brah send me that flex lol
There you go Folks! That's another TKO Victory 🏆 for Flex
Flex 24V Turbo Hammer Drill
8.0Ah 21700cell battery
VS
Milwaukee 18V 8.0Ah 21700cell battery
Flex: 8pts
Milwaukee: 2pts
The winner by TKO Victory 🏆
The Flex! 😁😊
I'm a Milwaukee guy and I just tried watching your challenge with flex against dewalt 999 and you used the 8ah with turbo on the Flex but the 6 ah on the Dewalt but here your using equal batteries so how can you say that the Flex Dewalt challenge was fair then turn around and use equal batteries on this one the Dewalt had a 8ah at the time you made these but did not use it, if your going to make these challenges make them fair
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Milwaukee is still King
18volt compared to 24volt is a 6volt difference, it's like comparing a 4volt to a 12volt tool , not a fair comparison
Lol. The flex is "24 volt max." Just like the DeWalt 20v max. There's only a 4 volt difference between the MILWAUKEE and flex.
@@Factoryseconds123
Je to tak, nemozno porovnavat rozne platformy cize 24V vs 20V
@@Bjukemen omg I can read your your odd message. There isnt a big difference, for example dewalt999 18v can beat hilti 22v or makita 40v with battery included 21700(the most important which battery you use during the test)
Y’all look at the size , I mean do the math, Flex is the best
flex is a brick🤣🤣🤣
I agree, that flex is a big tool
If the flex can hold up to daily use at that performance level milwaukee is screwed
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I think your right but field use is different then a testing set up, he doesn’t show any factors other then the using the tool,,, size is a huge factor as well as weight and usability it’s odd places those things matter more then speed because we all know they are gonna get the job done in ideal conditions
@@AnxOG663 the Flex is not so much bigger than any other heavy hammer drill.
The Milwaukee is the exotic unit here in that lineup.
The point is if you use it as an heavy framing drill size don't matter, it will be an advsntage.
At the other hand i prefer an mid torque drill driver for regular use that is more than a pound lighter than the M18 Gen3
It doesn't really matter because Flex is only marginally better and let's be honest are you really going to get rid of the the thousands and thousands of dollars of Milwaukee or DeWalt tools you already own just to buy it all over again in a new brand for marginal speed? My guess is probably not they are slightly better but they are very late to the game
Man that Flex is loud af! And way too big to actually do real work with imo.
Waaaaa.... I'm working at my tool is yelling at me....🥺
I guess u just needed to say something.U must own the red tool too make such a silly comment
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you need new gloves
Stop it with the 'TIME' everytime. So fucking annoying. Otherwise @lways liked your videos
this is an old video. I dont do that anymore. you should check out my most recent videos.
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I thank you Aaron