Should You QUIT Coffee? w/ Fr. Gregory Pine O.P.
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Ah, something to watch while I drink my morning coffee
Same, lol
Took the comment right out of my mouth 🤣🤣
Literally
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Dying.😂
Exactly: I drink coffee because I enjoy it. I enjoy it with morning prayers/scripture, driving, working, relaxing...
Alcohol: Reduces focus and self control.
Weed: Reduces focus and self control.
Coffee: Increases focus and does not affect self control.
I think that pretty much speaks for itself.
Adderall increases focus and self control, but that doesn't mean taking amphetamines for your entire life is a good thing
@@mikethemonsta15 True, but my point was that you can judge whether or not you should put something in your body based upon its effects, not simply because it is or isn't a drug (I should have known inevitably someone would take it literally). Amphetamines also have other effects that are more harmful than anything coffee will ever do.
We love Fr. Gregory and are grateful for his ministry!❤️🙏🏽✝️
Balance, nuance, point, counterpoint. Thanks Fr. Pine
I loved this 😂 I gave up cigarettes and i am clean for 3 years… my friend ask me why don’t I give up coffee and I said”noooooooo”
I love my coffee too much I enjoy the flavour, smell and taste all of it 😂
I tried to quit it in the lent and it was hard so end up having one every other day and that was hard enough for me 😮
So I watched this in fear if Father will say to give it up completely I am glad he didn’t
Thank you Father I love u a bit more after this 😂😅
I quit coffee for each of my pregnancies, so I know I can do it. I just don't feel the need to. I love having my cup of coffee every morning while reading God's word. It's my favorite way to start the day!
For asthmatics and ADD, it is medicine. For real. Let’s talk sugar…
why not drug yourself out for a bit
I quit coffee 3 weeks ago, only because I felt that I had become too dependent on it, if I didnt have coffee 1 morning I would get a migraine for 3 days. I noticed this pattern and decided to stop. I've also noticed when I fast 40 days on bread and water, I have more energy than when I am consuming anything and everything.
You cant fast on bread lol
Its called shitty diet in that point
I've quit coffee before, and noticed zero improvement in my life. No reduction in insomnia, no reduction in anxiety, no change in weight, virtually no change in energy levels, etc.
So caffeine largely does nothing to me, I just enjoy the taste of coffee. It soothes me, and gives me a reason to sit down and enjoy my morning before having to get to work
So this doesn't apply to you 😊
Same bruh. I gave it up for the entirity of lent, and tea just didn't give me the same energy.
@@dr.danburritoman1293 yea, and people who say giving up chocolate and coffee for lent is lame...not when you REALLY enjoy them!
Growing up I never drank coffee. Over the past year or so I picked up the habit, not much compared to the "must have" level some are at, but I'll enjoy a brew 2 or 3 times a week now. As someone who never needed to rely on it, the main differences I noticed are physiological. Essentially I would be more dehydrated, and also jumpy if I have more than 2 cups or so. The one biggie is that I don't actually feel any more alert or awake because of it - I would draw a distinction being feeling alert and feeling jumpy. This likely comes down to acquiring the habit as an adult rather than during the developmental phase of youth, where one might not be as atuned to drawing such distinctions.
Or maybe I'm overthinking it :-)
@@dsha2006 Yeah, I was actually hesitant to give up coffee due to just how much energy it gives me.
I felt addicted to coffee, and I felt terrible. I was having brain fog and healing it with coffee, with a strong desire to drink coffee. I could not drink just one a day(usually up to 7 cups, most double espresso + water. Machine makes double coffee, which is not enough liquid without extra water). I prayed hard one evening, feeling helpless; the strong desire was gone the following day. After this event, I still crave it occasionally but on a much lower level. Coffee can be abandoned as a sacrifice for God.
I still use green tea, black tea or hot chocolate, but it does not cause addiction as coffee. God bless!
I have a tendency for low blood pressure, that caused me from time to time to have hypotensive symptoms, like dizziness and headaches or just general confusion. I saw many doctors over the years and tried many different treatments for it, until a doctor recommended me to try coffee. I never drank coffee in my entire life until I was 29, only tried it because of this recommendation, and it worked. I have now 3 years drinking coffee twice a day and since I started I never experienced another hypotension episode.
And some people would say cannabis helps them with specific things. To each their own. I don’t drink coffee or caffeine in general. When I do on rare occasions I get pretty much the same buzz that a cannabis causes.
Coffee is just as much a gateway drug as cannabis and I cringe when coffee drinkers say they think cannabis is devils lettuce when they are also drinking a stimulant. It’s like when someone who drives a gasoline car and a Starbucks cup complains about climate change. You just look stupid.
There’s a reason we have millions of pharmaceutical drugs and stimulants, but weed was criminalized. Because it actually is a cheap/free alternative to their paid subscription drugs.
@@jackdaniels5626you seem to be attacking kroonox as if he (she?) said something about cannibus. Why are you on the attack about your 'precious' cannibus?
Caffeine and marijuana are two different things. When I used to drink caffeinated coffee, it didn't make me feel like I got "high on drugs". I drink decaf now.
@@jackdaniels5626 your logic is just a cocoon you’ve created to justify your weed consumption. You know it just as next person, but hey keep coping.
@@vardaainur-michaelmas5462nice of you to call out someone's faulty logic without providing any reason why it's faulty. Kinda sounds like it hit a nerve and you're the one coping tbh.
@@vardaainur-michaelmas5462 cannabis is an under-appreciated plant that has been legalized recently in some states. I understand you are offended by me defending my usage of the plant. And that you believe it is a dangerous substance. I will tell you this. Dry herb vaporizers can be used for inhaling chamomile, roses, lavender, for therapeutic purposes.
Now tell me why cannabis, with is wide array of smells + flavours(naturally found in the genetics of the plant) is any different to inhaling those plants? many of the cannabis cultivars I have tried range from blueberries, lime, lemon balm, chocolate, cake, sugar, cinnamon, to herbal smells like sage, earthy gas, diesel. And so many more, you can look it up yourself. Terpenes are naturally occurring chemical compounds found in plants and some animals. They're responsible for the aromas, flavors, and even colors associated with various types of vegetation. In terms of cannabis, terpenes are what make certain strains smell or taste different from others.
you drink coffee? well coffee is also a plant, and it also ranges in flavours, not so much as cannabis, but thats why people add artificial flavours like CoffeeMate to thier morning ritual.
Why is cannabis with all its flavours/ aromas/ effects/ benefits put into a more demonic category than coffee/tea or wine/beer/ whiskey (as Matt likes to drink whiskey on camera for its flavour and aroma and the overall sensory experience) if he used CBD cannabis, it would not give him a buzz, but it would calm him, almost like whiskey does. so why is he so against cannabis and not whiskey?
maybe in his mind he has only seen people smoking it, but there are so many ways to consume cannabis without smoking, in fact, smoking days are so behind us, now with all the new technology of herbal vaporizers. you can enjoy it without damaging your lungs.
I think if people lived in places where it is legalized, they develop a healthier more mature understanding of the plant.
Why would God create a plant with such a beautiful aroma, if it wasn’t to be enjoyed.
Secondly, why do we have cannibinoid receptors if we are not meant to use it, even on the occasion?
Thirdly, the devil didn’t create cannabis, God did. Now go ask God why he created such beautiful plant that could be bred to smell of straight up ice cream cake and berries and candy? Surely we have been brainwashed into thinking this plant is the devils lettuce.
Wine for me is in the same catagory. However, in the bible it is said to have been given to men to gladen their hearts! So, along those lines it should be said that moderation is the key. Enjoy, and God Bless!
I love the way Fr Pine always says we…I’ll just take his conclusions as my own even though it would take me 10x as long to get there 😂
The first coffee break by an employer was for women working in a textile plant during world war 2. They encouraged these women to take this break and saw that productivity increased.
We moved from drinking like ship workers to caffeine as the industrial revolution required more focused and repetitive work. No value judgement in my comment but our modern work lends itself to caffeine consumption.
I’ve heard this before, coffee is the drink of the Industrial Revolution. Whereas beer etc, was the drink before hand (lunch breaks, etc)
@@KyleVaughan1996 Baltic German landlords used to drink beer for breakfast. Even two centuries ago or so. Coffee came later. I sometimes have a beer for breakfast because I value old traditions.
@@piretkivi3218 nice! I’ll take up that tradition as well, lol!
I have to be on coffee just to keep up with your thought process. But, love your teaching. God bless you!
I did notice I was enjoying my morning coffee a bit too much, so I stopped consuming it on Wednesdays and Fridays as a form of abstinence. I think everyone should determine for themselves whether or not they are too dependent on it - I definitely do not think it is inherently bad, and can be a good metabolic aid if your body is capable of handling it.
7:29 It may be added, the Ethiopian Coptic Monophysite Church has a special blessing for coffee at the coffee harvest, and I think this may be the case for Uniate Ethiopian Copts as well.
I gave up coffee for Lent and then just carried on.
I quit having anything with caffeine. The withdrawals from quitting it was horrible I almost went back to it. But making it through the withdrawals was worth it. I sleep better. I also don't have the mood swings like I used to have.
My favorite part of this vid starts at about 6:45. I love how Fr. Pine takes a conversation about coffee and relates it to the human condition. He mentions St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine and reflections on remedies of sadness. The line that really got to me was when he said that coffee is one of those things that "helps us with the sadness of life." A beautiful thought. If you are taking requests-I would be interested on a video on just that line!
I quit coffee but this video motivated me to brew a cup or two 😂
I do the same as Father. I go off and on but it does make me happy now that I think of it.
Excellent explanation on good and bad dependencies, like your post on a good Confession, which helped me a lot understanding the value and need of this great and unused sacrament. You’re really gifted on simplifying hard topics. Thank you for sharing your gift Fr Pine. We need clear good formation very badly and I’m 73 y/o already but we never stop learning and in a way I like that as it keeps us connected with the Lord, and that’s the best dependency we can have. 🙏🙏🙏
I am addicted to coffee but I am still going to drink it. I throw myself on the mercy of the Lord.
Love it!
Why not try to master your body instead of engage in carnal pleasure?
So we can keep on sinning with that mentality. I dont think it works like that.
@@Saltandlight3712
It’s crazy how people justify their sin.
“I’m gonna keep choosing to sin because Christ gives me mercy!!”
Christ doesn’t give you mercy so you can sin. He gives you mercy so you can repent.
@@Saltandlight3712 drinking coffee is not a sin
I put milk and honey in my coffee instead of coffee creamer and processed sugar.
This video reminded me Its time for coffee!
I’ve found that the best way to wake up in the morning is a cold shower. Works infinitely better than caffeine
Oh 100% 😆that wakes you up every time. Good on you 👊
Quitting coffee is easy. I've done it several times.
Yoooo! Fr. Gregory is my favourite. Need more of his videos, like one on the history of the ecumenical councils before and after the Schism. Also more Thomism
Don’t make me quit you, Father!
So sensible 😄 Thankyou 🙏
Whether or not coffee is to be considered a drug is irrelevant. Advil and Tylenol are also drugs. If someone is drinking 4 or 5 cups every morning, that's probably too much. But, simply having a cup of coffee with one's bacon and eggs, or oatmeal, and maybe a second cup, there's nothing wrong with that.
At the same time though, be careful to not throw the whole video out over loosely used vocabulary. I had the same thought, and thoroughly enjoy my coffee, but I think he was looking for a word to describe methamphetamine but leave out Tylenol; with an additional gray area around things like caffeine or nicotine. Honestly, if you know pf a good word, reply with it! I've been trying to figure it out since I started the video.
I really love considering how it pertains to ritualization. I drink coffee more often now than I used to, and its because I got serious about doing the exact same thing every night and every morning so as to be a better human. Coffee and prayer are my anchors. At night I grind my coffee, top off the water, and say night prayer. And in the morning I brew coffee, get ready, then have a seat with my cup and say morning prayer.
Thank You for your awesome videos! God bless!
I never liked the taste of coffee, and when I drank it I felt no different and still felt tired.
I am an Armenian I can’t quit coffee!
This was a good analysis. I think the impact of withdrawal is likely the key to understanding the difference
I work in a public school and during the school year, I have 16 oz. of coffee every weekday morning. I enjoy the aroma and the taste. Once my Yeti is empty, I fill it with water during the rest of the day. In the summer, I drink very little coffee. I opt for iced tea or water instead.
I decided to quit coffee for three months July to Sept 2023. It’s August now, month two of three. The first month was wild, zero headaches but muscle aches, brain fog and tiredness. July was a blurred. Now August I’m fine, I’m back to normal. Conclusion it does affect my brain/body much more than I expected. I won’t go back to daily coffee. After the three months are over, I will sometimes have decaf or something, but I will not take coffee lightly anymore. It’s an interesting experiment, it has opened my eyes and I will treat it like alcohol, a thing that I sometimes do socially, but not a daily thing.
The Mormons are correct on Coffee then!
@@mattaw5412 Interesting fact though, in recent years the Mormon church has begun saying that caffeine and caffeinated drinks in general are not forbidden, it's just coffee and tea.
I have Ménière’s disease which means I’m on a low sodium/no caffeine diet. I drink herbal teas. I used to love regular tea and coffee but haven’t drank them in over 20 years. It is possible to live well without caffeine. 😄🙏
If I don't drink coffee all joy, motivation and hope for joy and motivation leaves me. everything is only ever a hard chore and no matter how long I abstain it doesn't ever change.
Thank you.
It’s crazy I quit drinking coffee two days ago. Thank you for your video, interesting.
I had acid reflux after a ruptured ulcer at 24 and I couldn't drink drip coffee as a result. However I could drink iced black coffee just fine. I thankfully have no acid reflux issues at 35 thanks be to god and dietary changes and I still primarily drink iced black coffee even though I don't have to anymore.
Father Pine how do you find patience for yourself even in the midst of your failures?
With things like coffee it seems to me like it is fine until it comes in to harming or damaging your life. For me I never had any problems with caffeine until recently, the medicine I have to take for MS impacts my heart so it physically harms me if I have to much caffeine.
Sugar is also a drug!
You integrated the words “steep” and “flavor” in the same sentence in a video about coffee, next level Fr. (9:55 mark)
I’ve always had a hard time establishing routine, and coffee helps me with that (because I like it and it feels like a treat). If i give it up I wander aimlessly wondering what I’m supposed to be doing so I stopped giving it up. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
Thank you Father!
In my life, coffee, overall is a negative substance and I keep thinking about it, looking to it when I feel sad or discouraged. I just wrote in my journal, a few days ago : "NO COFFEE".
I recommend tea as an alternative because the caffeine is slow-release unlike coffee's instant release, so its benefits are spread over several hours. Loose leaf is often actually less expensive than bags, too, depending on your brew style
I think that a lot of people who consume caffeine regularly just to get out of bed in the morning and start their day wonder whether they should quit. Perhaps it's because they remember that there was a time when they got out of bed in the morning and started their day without it. Just the fact that it's an addiction, that if they can just get through the withdrawals and get off it, that desire to be free from depending on the consumption of a drug in order to function, is telling. I think the Catholic church should end its love affair with both alcohol and caffeine. Catholics should really listen to the Mormons on this point.
Here is good thing for anxiety, The Surrender Novena
Why would you even ask that question?
At one point I worried that I was addicted to coffee and that it interfered with my sensitivity to the Holy Spirit....so I stopped for a while, and thankfully discovered that I wasn’t as addicted as I thought and that it didn’t interfere with my sensitivity 🙌😄
Brilliant!
Well, my grandmother is from the Dominican Republic and over there some of the older generation believe that coffee is a vice, therefore, one should not drink coffee. I, however, can’t see how myself quilting it anytime soon.
Yes, coffee is a drug.
No, I do not need to quit it.
I like coffee and I like Fr Pine. Now I’m nervous about watching the video.
Cant wait to have a coffee and pray my rosary in the am.
I love coffee! But I do take some months off of it from time to time. I gave it up for lent this year. I usually have a mild headache for two or three days, then I feel fine. Coffee is not very craving inducing. People crave coffee out of habit mostly, much in the same way they crave other comfort food items. But it doesn't generally generate impulsiveness or disinhibition toward consuming it. I don't think the level of dependence it produces is problematic for most people, and hardly ever sinful in itself. If, for some reason, one finds themselves consumed with needing coffee such that the desire detracts one from obligations, or withdrawal is an occasion of temptation, then there is a problem.
I don't get scrupulous about it. I remind myself once in a while that i can go without it, and I do so just fine. Right now, I love sipping my morning coffee.
I drink only decaf; and, only have one coffee in the morning.
I quit coffe 4 days ago. Drank a redbull sugar free today and I felt great. You don't need coffe. Try it yourselfs
I quit coffee at the end of last year. I have gotten the taste for coffee a few times since and I had some. My body csn no longer tolerate coffee. I can't even drink half of a cup. My body feels so off, i got a headache twice and felt very jittery. No more for me.
I quit coffee once for 4 months. When I started drinking it again it felt as though I had left the Land of the Dead and returned to the Land of the Living.
I think a dependency becomes a problem when it causes you to debase and degrade yourself, I have several "dependencies", but none effect my life, or my relationships with those around me, including my relationship with God. I think it's part of being human.
Should I quit coffee? {chuckles softly} Absolutely not. Should you? Only you can decide. Hope this helps.
The only time I really drink coffee is when I do fasting by medical rules (no food, only water, green tea, or black coffee with no milk or sugar).
I quit drinking coffee when I became a Mormon, I'm no longer Mormon, but I still haven't started drinking coffee again.
Sorry to hear that...
@@sergesavard636 That I left Mormonism or that I haven't started drinking coffee again?
@@thisisjeff9845 the coffee thing, Christ will bless you for leaving for escaping the magic under wear cult. Welcome home
Well that’s needlessly offensive, do you call Jews the tiny hat cult?
@@KnuttyEntertainment I call them far worse....
I don't drink it anymore and its because it wrecks my nerves.
Coffee: The perennial evil. Or at least it is every other year or so. Frankly, coffee is a food blessing one can freely imbibe or not. You want a product truly, ineluctably harmful? Then focus on sugar, in all of its forms. In the meantime, the Lord and I will share a cup of cafe au lait in the morning as he speaks to me through the mass readings. Viva Cristo Rey! Also, love Fr Pine.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:01 ☕ Coffee addiction and its implications for quitting.
01:28 🧪 Coffee addiction and withdrawal compared to hard drugs, different in nature and severity.
03:37 🏥 Health considerations of coffee consumption, potential negatives balanced with benefits.
05:57 🔄 Ritualization and dependence on coffee, how it reflects human condition, moderation is key.
08:52 💡 Accepting human dependencies, focusing on healthy use and moderation.
11:00 🌿 Practical suggestions for controlling coffee consumption during Lent or through ritualization.
12:52 🙏 Reflecting on dependence and relationship with coffee, embracing human fragility.
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Named ... I quit caffeine for 6 months (and I'm never going back)
If you can’t fast from coffee an hour before Holy Mass than there’s a problem with your appetite. Same goes for disrupting normal routines, ex., if I was a Starbucks Barista I could not drink coffee and process the details of customer orders since coffee makes me too scatterbrained!
Abstaining from meat and also whatever you want to mitigate on Fridays is a good way to control the passions. For instance, always abstain from meat, and then add coffee or alcohol if you think you are too passionate about it in the flash.
Caffeine has withdrawal effects. True dat. Symptoms include fatigue, loss of focus, mood swings, lack of motivation, nausea, flu, headache, tension, backache and joint pain.
I don’t drink coffee to wake up in-fact drinking it while awake and not tired doesn’t give you a crash. I drink coffee for the flavor usually I buy decaf, sometimes caffeinated is cheaper. I recommend Mystic Monk Coffee.
Bring it to the Lord in Prayer
Lord, I want to be Yours
wholly & entirely.
I want to be a slave for You,
of You.
I dont want to be a slave of anything that would keep me from You.
I don't want to pose obstacles or hindrances to my pursuit and I just want to be open to whatever Graces You have in store.
So help me to be free in the way that You intend me to be free.
Help me to be independent in the way that you intend me to be dependent so that I can be again open and honest & sincere in the context of relationship but open, honest and sincere in the setting of my human life...which is wierd, hilarious, and silly thing.
Amen.
Yes it is. The mormans aren't wrong about caffeine. Frankly processed sugar is too. The human brain has no off switch when consuming sugar, it needs sucrose for fuel. Its the reason everything has high fructose corn syrup added.
Your body is a temple.
Use decaffinated coffee. Only water processed caffeine extraction
If reflux is a problem, try different low-acid coffees; some are actually good. Or, try using half low-acid, half your favorite brand.
Man I really want some coffee now
I love coffee. It’s my only “guilty pleasure”. I suppose you could use the love of it to our advantage. Ie continue your daily ritual of coffee but pick 2 days a week and refrain from it and offer it up for the souls in purgatory?
You’ve convinced me to buy another bottle of bourbon😊
13:56 If you have problem with reflux, how about praying "Birgitta Margareta, ora pro nobis" ...
It's my deceased mother. Since her Catholic conversion was delayed and never took place, she got a Lutheran burial, but rather than thinking she died in apostasy, I prefer to count it as part of her martyrdom.
AND if you are free from reflux for a year after the asking, please tell me!
As a Latter-day Saint, I’m gonna go with yes, coffee gets the axe.
I'm writing this comment before watching the video. I would say a fair way to define drug that includes all drugs (whether recreational, medicinal, or any other sort) is "a substance introduced to the body for the purpose of improving the body's normal function or altering the body's current function." This definition would include anything containing caffeine, nicotine, or any other such, but it also makes the use of drugs amoral; there would be no intrinsic morality regarding the use of "drugs", and any morality would be extrinsic based on both the specific drug used, the purpose for using it, and the circumstances surrounding its use. So whether or not you should quit coffee doesn't rely on its falling under the definition of "drug" because "drugs" aren't intrinsically immoral.
Before I watch, the answer is no.
Make a video on the benefits of Tea! Matcha does everything coffee does without crashing your body, and it’s better for you.
I don't think there's anything at all wrong with drinking coffee. I do think it's wasteful to buy coffee at Starbucks or anywhere similar. Make your own coffee, save the difference (Starbucks cost minus grocery cost) in a mayonnaise jar, and donate a minor fortune to the poor during Lent. Win-Win!
We invite to Cracow - you will find out in this city no coffee means no life :D
at least for majority of citizens XD
Can you please do a chat like this on junk food? 😬
Junk food isn’t even debatable. It’s just bad, nothing to talk about.
I’ve had to take pain medication for brain injury so strong that the withdrawal was like heroin and lasted 4 days. That’s not coffee…besides…I can quit any time…😢
Drink camomile tea it’s caffeine free 😃 Praise the Lord 🙏
I think this is just very confusing. I was supposed someone who drinks several parts of coffee a day could be having a problem. Just like someone who drinks several six packs a day of alcohol probably has a problem. But a couple two or a glass or two a beer 🤔
is there way to find heavenly pleasures ? pleasures for the soul?
How about Camellia sinensis?
The pictures
Padre, talk to me about Jesus, the Holy Spirit, God the Father. What next, the WWF, NBA, NFL? Please...
A 12 oz black decaf espresso after my one main meal every day. It's the caffeine that's the drug. Never say never