HOW POWERFUL will the Nintendo Switch 2 be?

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  • @ActualAero
    @ActualAero  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How would you feel if the Nintendo Switch 2 has this much power? 👀

    • @PCBrian
      @PCBrian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As long as it’s affordable I don’t care about how much power the next Nintendo console has.

    • @nelus4blood
      @nelus4blood ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh, i would still get it.
      Since i’ve been playing pokemon ever since i got a pokemon blue in 1999 here in the netherlands
      Since knowing my pokemon addiction, still I would not care on how powerful it will be.
      As long as i can catch pokemons (and murder every yellow electric rodent that I despise as the only one of the 1010) I would be content with it
      Greetings fromout the netherlands~

    • @supersarkilar
      @supersarkilar ปีที่แล้ว

      as much as PS4

    • @godofthecripples1237
      @godofthecripples1237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@PCBrian You should absolutely care about how much power a system that you'll likely be paying between 300 and $400 for has, when its power directly corresponds to what kinds of games and run.

    • @AusMaw
      @AusMaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel it will be closer to the Steamdeck and the PS4.

  • @ChocoHasFUN
    @ChocoHasFUN ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Should also mention that the Xbox Series S has about around 4 Teraflops of power, which would technically make it not as powerful as the PS4 Pro when comparing RAW Teraflops. Yet, obviously, the Xbox Series S is capable of outputting raytracing sometimes and otherwise can, and has, produced image quality better than the PS4 Pro ever has. This is all thanks to the fact that the CPU was massively increased in terms of performance this time and the fact that it's running off of AMD's RDNA 2 graphics architecture.
    Meanwhile, the supposed Nintendo Switch 2 would be running off of the direct competitor to RDNA 2, which was Nvidia's Ampere architecture. The architecture was, gen on gen, better at raytracing performance than AMD by twice the amount, while also performing head to head against AMD in rasterization performance. Basically, the Switch 2 could actually be more powerful than the PS4 Pro in this scenario, and it would be closer to the Xbox Series S in terms of performance. Include DLSS into the mix and suddenly the Switch 2 could theoretically have better image quality than the Xbox Series S, straight up. Though, that depends on what actually gets to be the CPU in the Switch 2 when it launches.

    • @gfujigo
      @gfujigo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      God I hope what you are saying turns out to the the case. The Switch would again be the dominant console.
      Let’s take what you are saying and add 4K when docked and 1080p in handheld mode. That would be amazing. I would take that console with me everywhere. It would the the first time I would buy a Nintendo console to be my primary console since the original NES system.

    • @markel3353
      @markel3353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen and amen

  • @SalvableRuin
    @SalvableRuin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If the next Switch can do 2 - 4 Teraflops, I'll be happy.

  • @maxverlinden129
    @maxverlinden129 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair, I didn’t get a switch because of its power, but rather because of its entertaining games and portability for my commute to and from my university. I'll be a satisfied customer as long as they release quality games, offer a reasonable power boost, and advertise a fair pricing.

  • @t.fernbach602
    @t.fernbach602 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's a really good question. If the rumors turn out to be true, that it's going to be more powerful than Steam Deck, that's going to be INSANE.

    • @sybsygstgstsgysg5330
      @sybsygstgstsgysg5330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I highly doubt they’re gonna make a system more powerful then a steam deck lol

    • @kingdrift1136
      @kingdrift1136 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will lol

    • @Steelesie
      @Steelesie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sybsygstgstsgysg5330the leaked chip theoretically makes 2 teraflops in portable mode which is stronger than steam deck slightly, and 3.4 teraflops when docked which is much stronger than a steam deck, I saw another chart with similar numbers

    • @ShellTree
      @ShellTree ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Steelesie more like 3.1 docked. 1.41 handheld

    • @Zucker1210
      @Zucker1210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinianbyzantium3765 it's good for a handheld

  • @VirandoaMesaBoardgames
    @VirandoaMesaBoardgames ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If It Will be more powerfull than the Steam Deck, I'm already impressed. I mean, Red Dead Redemption 2, God of war, Cyberpunk 2077, Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy, all of them run really well on Steam Deck.

    • @pootskoot23
      @pootskoot23 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a lie. You are just a delusional Deck fanboy

    • @pootskoot23
      @pootskoot23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ALL of those games BARELY get 30fps on the Deck

    • @VirandoaMesaBoardgames
      @VirandoaMesaBoardgames ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe the settings you are using are not the most optimal. I play them with 40fps cap and It's more than enough for a quite good handheld gaming experience for me...

    • @MarkSamurai5
      @MarkSamurai5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't be surprised if it's more powerful than ps4 pro.

  • @R0NThaDon
    @R0NThaDon ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Nintendo is like Apple. They don’t always have the highest spec hardware, but their software is so good and optimized that the hardware doesn’t need to be the best.

    • @squidsmove
      @squidsmove ปีที่แล้ว +6

      for nintendo it’s not the software as much as the games that they only have on their platform

    • @R0NThaDon
      @R0NThaDon ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@squidsmove yeah the games being the software.

    • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
      @PurushNahiMahaPurush ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you look at iPhones and iPads, their chips are the best in the industry. Android phone SoCs are lagging much behind Apple’s in terms of performance and efficiency

    • @Christianmingle420
      @Christianmingle420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PurushNahiMahaPurushexactly what I was thinking, they also don’t need as much RAM because the chip is so powerful and the software is so optimized that you get better performance out of an iPhone 14 Pro with 6GB of RAM than you do from an android flagship with double the memory. Even Apple’s “budget” end products have more performance than their android or pixel counterparts. Build quality is also better. Nintendo just knows how to make a profitable gaming system that can output higher quality games than the console should be able to. Nintendo magic is just as good as Apples… even if it’s infuriating at times ;)

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is definitely not true at all. Apple has the most powerful smartphones and tablets. Their laptops in terms of sleekness and lightness are faster than anything out there. Along with having expensive products and an eco system. Nintendo is nothing like Apple.

  • @Alan-garci
    @Alan-garci ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the switch 2 can run gta 6 that’s all we need

  • @GerOB1988
    @GerOB1988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please please Nintendo, sort out the crappy controls and give us good online play for switch 2. Not being able to use proper voice chat in 2023 for online play is ridiculous.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ll have to pay more money for online play then.

  • @SpinX522
    @SpinX522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That sort of performance for a handheld is actually really good.

  • @SacrificAbominat
    @SacrificAbominat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't expect it to outperform the PS4 pro, but that's around where I expected it's power to be. Heck at that point with DLSS and other software technology you could probably get close to PS5 visuals out of the system at 30fps. Honestly at some point we're going to reach the point that graphical power improving will have diminishing returns on how good games look, getting the PS6 or the Switch 3 might be a hard sell if graphics is all they're promoting.
    What concerns me more is battery life though. I don't handheld game that often, but the base Switch's battery life was pretty bad, and while newer models improved upon that it's still not ideal. If the Switch 2 has 4 times the power in handheld mode I'm hoping that playing Switch games on it will increase the battery life 4 fold and I never have to worry about the battery dying during a session. If it has the same amount of battery life for Switch 2 games as the Switch does with it's games right now that'd be okay, but I'd like to see them try and improve that by a couple hours if they can.

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    TFLOPS aren’t exactly the only specs that decide how powerful a gaming system is. There is a lot more to take in consideration, like CPU (how many cores, clock frequency), GPU and it’s specifics in graphical capabilities and also the clock speed, the type of RAM that is used and the bandwidth and speed of it, thermals like heat sink and fan and a lot more.

    • @gfujigo
      @gfujigo ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think the Switch successor will be able to play current gen NBA 2k and FIFA?

    • @alexanderflores-MazterDestiny
      @alexanderflores-MazterDestiny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gfujigo knowing the 0 optimization ea gives to those games, well, it could just by raw power

    • @ShellTree
      @ShellTree ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also the value of a teraflop on Polaris (PS4, XBONE, PS4 Pro, ETC) is very different than the value of a teraflop on ampere (which next gen switch is most likely gonna use), the features the architecture offers is much more important than the TF count

    • @MaikonGarcia
      @MaikonGarcia ปีที่แล้ว

      Teraplo can only be purchased within the same architecture, PS5-XSX/XSS, PS4-XOne. And the number is based on CPU and GPU capacity, the only number it doesn't take into account is RAM.

    • @gfujigo
      @gfujigo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Somed I certainly hope so. To be able to play the same game I’m handheld mode that folks are playing on Xbox Series X and PS5 would be awesome and a game changer.

  • @godofthecripples1237
    @godofthecripples1237 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They should call the Switch 2 the Power Switch. Then they could bring back their old tagline, "Now you're playing with power."

    • @AgentXero2
      @AgentXero2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should! I see everyone wanting it to be the Super Nintendo Switch but the power switch sounds way better

    • @SAsaiyajin
      @SAsaiyajin ปีที่แล้ว

      That is actually a very good one. "THE POWER SWITCH"

    • @stephkm3655
      @stephkm3655 ปีที่แล้ว

      And... how would the call the Switch after it???

    • @Star_in_Southern_Sky
      @Star_in_Southern_Sky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@stephkm3655 LOWPOWER SWITCH

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best guess name I saw. Would love it it has that name.

  • @SparksOpus
    @SparksOpus ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In all honesty, even if the Switch would come somewhat CLOSE to the estimates, that would be a really, really good upgrade and what many developers need. Hearing how developers had to cut down things here and there because the Switch is struggeling is really unfortunate. I was hoping for TotK to release with that system, but oh well. If that's true though, i can only imagine how the next Zelda or Xenoblade gonna look like... man. Makes me cream already haha
    I can't understand how there's people saying that the (hopefully) Switch 2 will only be very slightly stronger. Or the Switch being more than fine still, maybe even for a few more years. But tbh, these people think Pokemon S/V are perfectly fine, so... meh :P
    Very good Video! May we get a new Switch early next year :D

  • @barrysmith4610
    @barrysmith4610 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hopefully it will be a little stronger than PS4 or rather bring it in line with Series S as we're already seeing problems of some current games struggling to run on ps4/xbox 1

    • @sunburst6598
      @sunburst6598 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unfortunately, knowing Nintendo they probably will only make it as powerful as the PS4. I wouldn't doubt that they make it slightly weaker as well, right now the Switch compares more closely to a PS3, which is obviously very behind now.

  • @m.danielmills7091
    @m.danielmills7091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are comfortable paying 400+ for mobile devices so the idea of a Nintendo system costing upwards of $500 isn't bad. Especially with it being mobile.

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also amount of RAM and bus speeds are important to IO in terms of loading times and multitasking. I really hope Switch 2 will future proof itself with at least 12GB of LPGDDR5 or better. That allows Switch to keep up with 3rd party releases at least in the ball park of xbox series S.

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And now we know it uses 12 GB of LPDDR5X, what allows it to have a 130GB/S and, on Ampere, can run at 4.2 Tflops when docked. That means stronger than Ps4 on portable and stronger than ps4 pro on DOCK, Very wild for a small tablet.

  • @silvania1989
    @silvania1989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to play RE4 remake on a Nintendo Switch

  • @aztekno2012
    @aztekno2012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playstation isn't the only place you can play their games, they release stuff on the PC too.

  • @sybsygstgstsgysg5330
    @sybsygstgstsgysg5330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I messed up with the switch and waited a while, but this time I’m buying a launch console so I can mod it

  • @TheMalioman
    @TheMalioman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another thing to add about TFLOPS is that it doesn't scale the same across different architectures.
    If switch had to rely on raw numbers to run games it wouldn't be running modern games at all.
    Considering how much newer the tech is the Switch 2 will be compared to Xbox Series S even if it's around 2TFLOPs, or even 3-4 like that console, it could easily get close to or out perform it due to it being NVIDIA + ARM based and having things like DLSS to help upscale the image. (as long as nintendo doesn't do something dumb like giving it 4-8GB of ram)
    I think no matter what chip we get in the Switch 2 as long as its from a recent architecture it'll be fine

    • @hydroflasks3571
      @hydroflasks3571 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats very true. But the teraflops are what determine how powerful it is with all of the components combined aka cpu and ram and gpu etc, so even the architecture are counted already into the system, And also the software plays a big role.
      I also don’t expect it to add such strong competitive features such as ray tracing because then it would be competing directly in the PS vs Xbox which could be a bad marketing idea especially if it only works on the competitive games. Nintendo won’t compete directly with the big companies because what makes it shine is the exclusive games and features not the online battles. If they just give it enough performance to help make the nintendo exclusives look good at least or maybe even above 1080P that’s literally what’s gonna make the fans happy, too much performance will ruin the battery life and overall battery health which could make portability less usable.

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hydroflasks3571 dude, TFlops are only a GPU thing, not CPU, RAM or any other thing combined. Its basically the number you get multiplying the shaders, the clock speed and the threads. And what a GPU can do at 1 Tflop can varying depending on the architecture. So, a ps4 at 1 TFflop can't do the same amount or rasterization than 1 Ampere at 1 Tflop.

  • @damndanielcruz6754
    @damndanielcruz6754 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    With more power comes Monolith soft becoming more based

    • @TonyDaExpert
      @TonyDaExpert ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Next xenoblade game’s world gonna slap

    • @nicholuswilliams6443
      @nicholuswilliams6443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Xenoblade Chronicles 4 new Earthbound

    • @dashawnjean3604
      @dashawnjean3604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      monolithsoft will make a graphical masterpiece / oh and don't forget retro studio

  • @josiahgarber3761
    @josiahgarber3761 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video! One thing to also keep in mind is that TFlops aren’t everything as well. For instance, the Xbox One X has 6, but the Series S, a system that runs games better and with more advanced features than the One X, only has 4. Having a Switch with modern hardware that has around 3 is going to be able to do about the same as a Series S when we factor in aspects like DLSS and a more modern architecture

  • @killerdude35
    @killerdude35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One console you did not mention was the Series S. That console is no bigger than a cigar box and it came out 3 years ago at 299.99. I dont think its THAT unrealistic to think 4 years later, similar tech could be designed in a handheld form. I think its important for Nintendo at minimum to get within 'spitting distance" of Series S performance or possibly match it. For no other reason than to stay in the conversation with 3rd party developers to port their games to Switch 2. I mean, are we REALLY going to have another Nintendo generation with no COD, no Madden, no Battlefield, no Resident Evil, no Final Fantasy, etc? They NEED to at least release something that 3rd parties can realistically port to.

    • @SE-fq4gf
      @SE-fq4gf ปีที่แล้ว

      It will probably be around Xbox One level of performance.

    • @killerdude35
      @killerdude35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SE-fq4gf If it's not at least on par with the PS4 Pro or Xbox One X, thats an L IMO.

    • @SE-fq4gf
      @SE-fq4gf ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bender-of-Strings Yeah most likely no way they could have a 10-15 watt power draw (most likely 11-12 if they keep it similar to the current Switch) and get that much performance, even a steam deck is just about a PS4 level of performance and that is too big and too power hungry for a Nintendo handheld, I would say expect a 2/2.5 times increase over the current Switch which should put it somewhere in the Ball park of Xbox One.

    • @Zucker1210
      @Zucker1210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killerdude35 L for us but a W for nintendo

  • @barelywatch9278
    @barelywatch9278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $400 for a Nintendo console is a death sentence. You can't get the casuals interested at this high of a price.. It's $299 or bust!

  • @enriquepinero707
    @enriquepinero707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. It focuses logically on what is likely to be the power performance of the next gen Switch, without the guessing game of what's in it.

  • @watercat1248
    @watercat1248 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All those numbers sounds to big
    But in my experience as PC users the are so many stuff that effects the performance like for example
    1. haw good the GPU is
    2. what CPU the have
    3. What store type the have
    4. What resolution the runs those game
    5. Have much ram does this have
    And one other thing Many people don't mention is the fact that switch is portable system that means the need to balance power and batary

  • @Yukeena
    @Yukeena 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm 100% positive it will be more powerful than a steam deck, but the only thing I'm really worried about is the battery life in handheld mode.

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Switch 2 and Steam deck are not the same architecture. Deck is a AMD and X86, basically a PC. Switch 2 is Nvida Tegra with ARM, a very power efficient architecture for portable. On Nvdia Leak, show that the T236 only consumes 4.2W to run at 2.1 Tflops. Steam deck consumes 15W to run only at 1.6 Tflops. That is 3 times more. So, Switch 2 will be more powerful and the battery will last a lot more than Deck, thanks to the difference in architectures.

  • @ShellTree
    @ShellTree ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Docked mode is 0.39 actually. Handheld is 0.2

  • @therealmrarchive
    @therealmrarchive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When switch 2 (or whatever it’s called, New Switch, Switch U, Switch Advance, Super Switch)
    Make sure to get a early release model. I say this not as a Nintendo fan boy, but as someone who wishes I got my switch earlier so it could be modded.
    Imagine the potential for a modded switch 2. Dolphin emulator would be much smoother.
    If it has backwards compatibility then all switch games will work fine. And maybe even Xbox 360 games.
    If the switch 2 really is more powerful than the steam deck then I can just imagine how many emulators it could run effectively.

  • @Forestx26
    @Forestx26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really good breakdown video Aero!

  • @noelsilva8887
    @noelsilva8887 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    $450 is ok and no $50 more for a ps5 is not the same thing because you can’t go portable. So it not the same. So yeah I be in for $400 to $450

    • @ActualAero
      @ActualAero  ปีที่แล้ว

      Portable doesn't mean much to everyone. $50 more for a PS5 is still really close if its $450

  • @gfujigo
    @gfujigo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video!

  • @michaelalexander7139
    @michaelalexander7139 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want a Nintendo console that won’t give Gamefreak/Pokémon company a reason why their games lacks polish

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With Orin or better in Switch 2 as a CPU and between 2 and 3 TFLOPS on the GPU then 1080p/60 docked with DLSS upscale to 1440p or 4k should be within reach.

  • @RangerDOS
    @RangerDOS ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always like more processing power, but what I think is more important is the human-machine interface. I own both the Switch and the Steam Deck, and I can tell you for someone with less than 20/20 eyesight, and older eyes, the larger screen makes the Deck more palatable as a handheld. The Majority of gaming that I do is using it hooked up to my 75" Tv in my office, and that includes when my kids and grandkids come over. I use my devices as handhelds when I'm sitting up in my bed, and those times I try to limit that usage. Having said that, I hope that Nintendo has looked at the console aspect as much as the handheld aspect. Speaking of aspect, I also hope that the GPU is capable of actually producing a HD image. Right now, I keep the Switch at 720 to avoid getting the occasional picture degradation I get when it is in 1040. So, my "druthers" is that besides the CPU, that they increase significantly the screen size, and the graphical output (at least HD).
    Will I end up buying it anyway? Well, like I said, I have kids and grandkids, I've got to keep up with the youngsters.

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The screen will be 1080p and 8". More resolution and bigger size than deck.

  • @dillonwright13
    @dillonwright13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:09 What I’d like to know is, what device is that, and what software are they using? Because if it can do something as power intensive as this, it could probably do 2D animation well.

  • @XenoMassxx
    @XenoMassxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would be satisfied with a Switch 2 as powerful as indicated in this video. We're seriously at diminishing returns when it comes to graphics, anything from the PS4/XBOX ONE generation and up still looks very good graphically to me.
    So whether The Switch 2 ends up being around PS4 power or XBOX SERIES S or even Steam Deck power, we will still get some form of A.I upscaling that should allow for either 1440p 60FPS or 4K 30FPS putting it on par with PS5 and XBOX SERES X gameplay options wise which would be excellent to me.

    • @jozixl8808
      @jozixl8808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was said in 2010

    • @XenoMassxx
      @XenoMassxx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jozixl8808 Yup and it's more true now than when it was said back then.

  • @davidnagy364
    @davidnagy364 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that the next console will keep the hybrid nature. I love that I can bring my switch to anywhere and play games like Zelda, Persona on flight, train etc…

  • @Chris-db5gy
    @Chris-db5gy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would be satisfied as long as its more powerful than the steam deck, which seems to be one of the switch 2's main competitors

  • @s1ko52
    @s1ko52 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I'd definitely buy it for the games mostly, I still do hope the performance is at least something between the ps4 and steam deck. I also hope the switch tablet will be 1080p and that you can change the resolution and fps for longer battery life. I feel like 1080p should be more than enough imo, while 4k undocked would be cool and all, it would only drive up the price more and might make gameplay feel off when switching to a 1080p tv or monitor, which is still the most owned tv resolution.

  • @5000PokemonMaster
    @5000PokemonMaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Xenoblade gonna look crispy🥵

  • @M0i100
    @M0i100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would honestly be happy if it's almost as powerful as a steam Deck lol

  • @shadstewart9253
    @shadstewart9253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meta Quest 3 is coming soon Nintendo and the gaming industry needs to take more notice of VR and their IP's involvement.

  • @Bajoomboe
    @Bajoomboe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Power isn't everything, but it shouldn't fall short of it.

  • @TonyDaExpert
    @TonyDaExpert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ptsd of when I had to compute floating point operations by hand 😢

  • @SuiteLifeofDioBrando
    @SuiteLifeofDioBrando ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If it is as strong as a steamdeck, I would be happy.

  • @kennycarter5682
    @kennycarter5682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you know nintendo is going to be....... nintendo.

  • @tritonh5683
    @tritonh5683 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you thank you. NOw i understand. it is very exciting. used to be Bit Wars. Now we Got Teraflop Wars!!!

  • @HighLogs_da_realist420
    @HighLogs_da_realist420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have added the wiiu power too, as a good measurement. To see how much of a jump they would take. I would do this to get a more accurate graph. But nonetheless, I think you did a good job.

  • @makhaiwilbert2716
    @makhaiwilbert2716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Switch 2 is probably going to as powerful as the Xbox one x

  • @Super-qi9uj
    @Super-qi9uj ปีที่แล้ว

    If this is true we are gonna get pretty much every third party game for the next 3-4 years since the resolution target is gonna be 720p with dlss and optimizing i just don't see how hardware limitations would be a problem for a long time,games like elden ring, resident evil 4 run on base ps4 and run at 900p, with dlss and targeting 720p we could even see many games supporting 60fps since the cpu is way faster than ps4 we can expect it or they could just give us better visual than ps4 at 30fps either would be fine but i think there should be 60 and 30 fps modes for games

  • @XW1NT3RXS0LD13RX
    @XW1NT3RXS0LD13RX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wrong the 393 gflops is for dock mode on the original switch 2017 and for the switch 2019 and later dock mode gave you 648 gflops , it’s gpu was underclocked in the original switch from 2017 and with its die shrink it’s gpu got overclocked to 1267 MHz from the original clock of 1000 MHz found on the 2015 and 2017 versions of the nvidia shield, in 2019 the shield got revised again with the overclocked gpu from 1000 MHz to 1267 MHz and called the SoC the Tegra X1+ instead of the Tegra X1 which were made on the older 20nm than the 2019 Tegra X1+ which was made on the 16nm process and that SoC , the Tegra X1+ is what’s powering the 2019 nvidia shield, the 2019 Nintendo switch and switch lite and the 2021 switch oled , now as for 2019 n later switches were they underclocked still? I don’t think so , because of the die shrink they kept the overclock from the Tegra x1+ used on the 2019 Nvidia shield to the 2019 and later Nintendo switch systems

    • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
      @PurushNahiMahaPurush ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The OLED switch and the normal switch run on the same clock speeds. Digital Foundry did the tests and the frame rates are identical between the two models. The only difference is in the battery life due to the die shrink and OLED display.

  • @leeraym
    @leeraym ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking XBox Series S level of power in handheld format to "Future Proof".
    1080P 120hz Handheld and
    4K Upscaled with DLSS Docked

  • @davless152000
    @davless152000 ปีที่แล้ว

    How crazy would it be if we just got a revision of switch like gameboy color and the new 3ds xl style and thst was around for 3 years until Nintendo next console cause what if nintendos next console is broken up into 2 consoles that play the same games like a core system at be on your tv where it's just like your game console like ps5 xbox series x or your able to choose tje handheld version where you tale it on the go or play it anywhere and imagine if they did that for the next console it would be cool cause switch is sticking around a longer time and there working on thier next console and the switch did give a good idea on being hybrid but what if they gave us a option on a broken up systems where they play the same games digitally physically like the core system being sold from 299 to 350 whole the handheld version could be sold 60 dollars cheaper

  • @BrettHoTep
    @BrettHoTep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My switch generally for the kinds of games it plays is actually great. Nothing special compared to the xb1x but hey im ok with that.
    Now if they upgrade it so that it plays the same games as current but fixes up the slowdowns and frame drops it has sometimes and I will be a happy man.

  • @lbco13
    @lbco13 ปีที่แล้ว

    There will be definitely 2 versions of the "switch 2". A docked version and a lite version. It probably will follow on with DS-3DS and wii-Wii U and be fully or even partially back compat.
    But the real question with this system is wether or not we will get next gen upgrades. Especially with the economy of the world now, having free upgrades to your favourite games can be a great selling point for families kooking to buy rhe new console.
    Imagine a graphics update to Zelda BotW and TotK that makes those gamrs look even more beautiful (greater loading distance, less pop in, improved lighting). Or an update to Mario Kart 8 with new chatacter skins and updated Booster course pass graphics. Or a pokemon graphics update that makes the game look last gen instead of last last gen

  • @Ramxenoc
    @Ramxenoc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On one hand yeah nobody does go into a store and say omg 8gb of ram... but, PC gamers 100% do that cause 16gb of ram is beginning to not even cut it anymore 😂

  • @barelywatch9278
    @barelywatch9278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, now make a video if the next switch is only 1 Terraflop or less.

    • @alessandrooliveira3218
      @alessandrooliveira3218 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? We have the Nvidia Leak with the numbers. 4.2 Tflop on dock and 2.1 on portable. If we already have the numbers, why simulate it?

    • @barelywatch9278
      @barelywatch9278 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alessandrooliveira3218 Why are you replying to a year old comment, when we didn't have the numbers at the time?

  • @trevorpinder2484
    @trevorpinder2484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If it's only powerful enough to run last gen games like gta 5, I think it will be too weak to get some games. What happens when gta 6, COD '24, the next Kingdom Hearts or Resident Evil "needs" Series X & PS5 level of power? Do we get cloud versions again?

    • @quelquun1849
      @quelquun1849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is why i expect Xbox sS specs to not be too behind PS5 and sX.

    • @stephkm3655
      @stephkm3655 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GTA 5 is a PS3 game. The actual Switch can run it. The reason why Rockstar didn't release it has nothing to do with power. It is because of GTA Online. GTA V and GTA Online move hand in hand. And since Nintendo's online infrastructure and politics is utter crap, GTA Online cannot come. And if there is no GTA Online there is no GTA V.

  • @Da_TboneLife
    @Da_TboneLife ปีที่แล้ว

    I have hope for a powerful switch.
    I have the og switch from 2017 and if it is announced this year or next, it's due time to have an upgrade for over 6 years at 7 years of the switch 1 life.

  • @barelywatch9278
    @barelywatch9278 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd be surprised if it even does 2 Terraflops!

  • @angrydog3782
    @angrydog3782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Aero, I hope to see the most powerful Switch ever in 2024, but I need to be more realistic about this future generation, I'd like to see at least 1,31 TF that is the same raw power of a Xbox One FAT, but using DLSS 3, and another kind of technologies that will make Nintendo games so much more beauty than anything we've seen in PS4 and Xbox One... Well, Can you even imagine a kind of upscale for 1080p to 4k on the next Switch, and those same geometry and textures we see in Horizon, GOW, Last of Us 2, but making a new Zelda, Mario 3D or even a new Mario Kart ??? Must be amazing!!!

  • @FTChomp9980
    @FTChomp9980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would say probably around PS4 and Xbox One Level because Nintendo is always behind which I actually wouldn't mind.

  • @senpora9919
    @senpora9919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I must say is nintendo games are incredibly well optimised and that helps. A lot

  • @tpastudios8681
    @tpastudios8681 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:54 as i correct my record about this, i highly doubt that its gonna be the thing
    when i first discover about Nvidia Orin NX after the name of Tegra (Ampere Architecture), i start to realized that T239 will be a better perfomance and more efficient quality when it comes portable (it depends on 720p or 1080p) and on docked (720p, 1080p and 4K) with ampere which is comparing with RTX over DLSS
    so that's gonna be a nice touch if it is true

  • @yodesuyo
    @yodesuyo ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no one is talking about external GPU on the dock for switch 2. The handheld will be Airedale if you don't care about graphics. But with the dock, it boosts the power

  • @raymondrupp
    @raymondrupp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It been 6years for the switch not 7 because the switch was released by 2017 and we don't count the year of 2017 for the first year we count the first year of 2018 for the switch so that means it been 6years for the switch and I hope for the next original gameboy gba gbc online for the switch expansion pack the classic online games we get is Pokémon for original gameboy GBA GBC online for online battle and online trade for the switch online expansion pack and I also hope the switch2 will last for another 10years since be released n the year of 2026

  • @roseforyoubabe
    @roseforyoubabe ปีที่แล้ว

    i would not mind for more power that the next switch be between 400 and 500$

  • @tritonh5683
    @tritonh5683 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just want the games to look more crisp and not a blurry fking mess.

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand that you have had to simplify your breakdown here for the sake of accessibility for non techy types but I think one important detail should be noted. The TFLOP value relates to the GPU only and described the rendering power of the graphics processor. I may well be 2TFLOP handheld and 3TFLOP docked which is more than enough to render at native 720 and 1080p respectively. However, it is the CPU which is the game changer in terms of framerate and responsiveness/loading times and so on. The CPU should be easily superior to both PS4Pro and xbonex's anemic Jaguar cores. That's a really good thing.

    • @gfujigo
      @gfujigo ปีที่แล้ว

      So with 2 teraflops in handheld mode, with the right CPU it could be more powerful than the PS4 Pro?
      Do you think that the Switch 2 will be able to play the FIFA 23 and NBA2k that currently are on Xbox Series X and PS5?

  • @richmlvcable
    @richmlvcable ปีที่แล้ว

    Anything less powerful than a PS4 Pro or XBox Series S will be a disappointment but likely inevitable if Nintendo insist on portability again.

  • @juanm.5381
    @juanm.5381 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $299 at launch max. $400 is way too expensive for a nintendo system

    • @ActualAero
      @ActualAero  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's rumored to be 400 anyway. Inflation and cost of tech makes that price the most sense

  • @WorldLoveGaming
    @WorldLoveGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually, the first Tflop numbers might not be correct. They would be 0.196 Tflops in handheld or 0.393 in docked mode with FP32, or 0.393 Tflops in handheld and 0.786 in docked mode with the less accurate but faster FP16.

    • @xtr.7662
      @xtr.7662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering ports of games compared to the xbox one, wii u, ps3 its more like the latter one since in handheld it performs like a wii u that has 350gf

    • @WorldLoveGaming
      @WorldLoveGaming ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xtr.7662 And that would be the equivalent of a 1 TFlop GPU with the most modern architecture too, coincidentally.

  • @ScooterCat64
    @ScooterCat64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can that much power even fit in a Switch sized system?

    • @bloodlinegate7
      @bloodlinegate7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only in a Nintendo's fan brain its possible, oh and it will also come with a 100k mAh battery.

    • @stephkm3655
      @stephkm3655 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are in 2023. Many phones are 2tflops+. And a Switch 2 will be actively cooled contrary to those. Technology evolves. You say in a "Switch sized system" as if everything else remained stale since 2017.

    • @ScooterCat64
      @ScooterCat64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephkm3655 If that's true, why would they make the steam deck so huge for no reason? I'm supposed to believe the Switch 2 will be more powerful and likely a similar size to the Switch? I doubt they would go with a bulky design.

    • @stephkm3655
      @stephkm3655 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScooterCat64 Because Steam deck is built like a small laptop while the Switch is built like a tablet with a fan. Steam deck will still have better CPU than Switch 2, but Switch 2 will use more efficient mobile Nvidia GPU and ARM CPU hardware and it will also have DLSS. It will certainly be using a 5nm process compared to the Steam deck using 7nm.

    • @Zucker1210
      @Zucker1210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bloodlinegate7 Bro its 2023 the top the steam deck if they wanted to

  • @562frankrivers2
    @562frankrivers2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just comparing the games that seams very good for the next gen switch but if we get more demanding games then it’s going to fall alittle short in the performance aspect

  • @FabianWinkler
    @FabianWinkler ปีที่แล้ว

    Now you compare all of this with the supposed 8.6 TFLOPS of the ROG Ally 😅

  • @TimDespairBear11
    @TimDespairBear11 ปีที่แล้ว

    TBH I don’t think it will be more capable than a base PS4.

  • @shadstewart9253
    @shadstewart9253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It needs VR support, its the natural next step, an accessory or a separate VR device at some point. a powered dock that boost performance has been on the table for along time along with wireless streaming and computing . So I imagine a cost effective VR setup would be a streaming controller and headset this generation along with some kind of Nintendo innovation.

    • @alexanderflores-MazterDestiny
      @alexanderflores-MazterDestiny ปีที่แล้ว

      if we go into BIG BRAIN MOVE, nintendo could use the console itself, the tablet, as both the screen (most of it at least) and the ''computer'' for the VR headset.
      what is expensive in making those, to my knowledge, is the computer that analyzes all your movements and translates them into actual action in game, and the necessary parts that obtains said information.....and battery, i suppose.
      using the switch as the mains source for it, basicallly solves those 2 of those, making it posible to have a vr headset that could be in a 200-250 range, depending.
      imagine a 200 dollar vr headset, that would be a little expensive sure, but it could be a game changer just by that price, and also having an oled screen that comes from the switch (2)

    • @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
      @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about attaching it to the console. At launch, the console have a rail on top for second screen or camera and can be detached too. For VR, they can easily have a headpiece that attach to the console

  • @eraofnotomorrow8767
    @eraofnotomorrow8767 ปีที่แล้ว

    We do not need fanciful design . Hardware upgrade with OLED screen in addition to kbm support will suffice .🙏🏻

  • @skhicat5588
    @skhicat5588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, i would definitely spend 400 on a day one system so eventually when the hackers work their magic on the system it will be worth so much more. Maybe run some PS2, Vita and 3ds games on it at full speed, yea that would be worth it to me

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 ปีที่แล้ว

    probably steam deck level of performance in docked mode. Nintendo is usually very conservative with the clocks.
    Just hope it doesnt have any severe bottlenecks like the memory bandwitdh on the Switch

  • @jorgem.9690
    @jorgem.9690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my guess the next switch will be a little more bigger than the current switch to help the system be more powerful. Great video btw.

  • @__-tz6xx
    @__-tz6xx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As powerful as an Xbox Series S. 4-6 Tflops plus DLSS upscaling.

  • @IHitTheWater
    @IHitTheWater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk man they have gotta show some really good games for a almost $600 cad system

  • @brandj2020
    @brandj2020 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a piece of nicely, and I’m very understandable bow amazing work. As for the price I think you are spot on. As this all sits right in their wheelhouse.

  • @ComboverChris
    @ComboverChris ปีที่แล้ว

    I just hope it's backwards compatible and i can play all my physical switch games on it

  • @Itshadow306
    @Itshadow306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nintendo understands it has to compete with Sony and Microsoft in the power department meaning that the next console has to be around 7-8 Teraflops at the minimum and 500GB storage and if they’re going to achieve that then they’ll need to get rid of the hybrid model by dropping the Switch brand and release 2 separate devices and resurrect the GameCube brand as the first device would be a huge home console with 4K and Pro Controller and the second device will be a small portable that can play on the go both the home console and portable will play the same games just at different settings. I personally don’t see Nintendo continuing making weak hardware and gimmicks because Iwata is not president anymore and the Switch was his design so I definitely see Furukawa having Nintendo go back to powerful hardware from SuperNES, 64 and GameCube days and I definitely see him getting younger employees and getting rid of the old ones who’s been there for decades like Miyamoto, Tekeda and more old guys who’s holding Nintendo back.
    Nintendo GameCube 2 8 Teraflops
    Nintendo GameCube Lite 2 Teraflops.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it's 8 teraflops fuck, me steam deck mogged.

    • @ppo1502
      @ppo1502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miyamoto is not holding Nintendo back, Miyamoto main focus is to embrace the Super Mario brand

    • @Itshadow306
      @Itshadow306 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ppo1502 I totally understand that but at the same time that may be the big problem because there’s so many other franchises that need attention like Donkey Kong, Star Fox, Wave Race, 1080 Snowboarding, Excitebike, Pilotwings, F-Zero, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus and many more Mario as great as his games are do get repetitive from time to time.

    • @ppo1502
      @ppo1502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Itshadow306 I mean donkey Kong is getting a theme park at universal and how is Mario repetitive the only one I can think of is the new super Mario bros series, well I do agree that other franchises need attention too Zelda is the second one that gets more attention I think Nintendo should revive dead franchises like F-Zero and Kid Icarus

  • @riverstyx9
    @riverstyx9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give us analog triggers nintendo

  • @NYparanormalinvestigations
    @NYparanormalinvestigations ปีที่แล้ว

    Switch has 1 teraflop

  • @healthbeauty7853
    @healthbeauty7853 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought the xbox one was 1.23 TFLOPS

  • @bamiblok2477
    @bamiblok2477 ปีที่แล้ว

    1.6 in handheld and 2.0 docked will be enough for me. I just want 1080p docked at 60 fps and 720p handheld at 60fps. I dont need much just a ps4 like preformance and backwards compatbility. If its not backward compatble i wont buy it

  • @ComboverChris
    @ComboverChris ปีที่แล้ว

    Decent video

  • @YoumiiZen
    @YoumiiZen ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys need to chill with these vids, they canceled the switch 2 which means they arent working on one at all

  • @69metersbelow25
    @69metersbelow25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Needs to be 4k not upscaled to 4k that would honestly be a disappointment.

  • @nicholuswilliams6443
    @nicholuswilliams6443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nintendo switch 2 2024 spring

  • @ChristopherMcLarenExperience
    @ChristopherMcLarenExperience ปีที่แล้ว

    "power isn't everything", yeah when every game is launched broken, lol.

  • @nestorantoniofloresmendez4035
    @nestorantoniofloresmendez4035 หลายเดือนก่อน

    reality: they are gonna add 1 gb ram and 500 mb incomparisson of nintendo switch

  • @562frankrivers2
    @562frankrivers2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the first gen and it’s been working good for what I’ve been playing so I don’t need the new more powerful switch until I find it at a great deal later down the road

  • @Luna_889
    @Luna_889 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the speculation is true even if its a little bit off so if uts betwwen 1,5-2 teraflop. Its in line whif Nintendo, because that had we was ALWAYS 1 gen “behind” the trend so ill be happy if its in line whif ps4. And i relly hope for baccopat becos it its just a waste of if I can’t play the games anymore.