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i remember the oracle games.(also enjoyed twilight princess for midna & especially best girl telma that i'd love to see in a sequel/option to romance her with how flirty she was to link.:3) would say pictograph till you get the color addition(which is dumb the pictures not counting in the gallery for as fun as collecting figurines in games are to me.) was worse than telescope. love more zelda reviews/can't hide from ff 13 forever.
Jared, thank you for pointing out every shield and weapon in Breath of the Wild. That's why I didn't understand the hype for BOTW. Tears of the Kingdom was much better because of the fuse ability.
I think I already have it installed even if I don't use it(in the past, it was prone to crash upon bootup after a while), but hey, if it helps the channel, I'll uninstall it and then reinstall it with your link. Also, I didn't know your PC's broken. Hope that gets sorted out soon.
Yeah. The bomb mask is probably one of the better masks in the game for that reason. Like sure, bombs are safer against enemies, but if you want to blow up something like a wall with no enemies around, you can use the bomb mask as a bomb that doesn't waste any ammo. Compare that the masks that are useful for one sidequest and nothing else, and the Bomb Mask is nowhere close to the worst item in that game.
I've never understood why people talk shit about the other Clawshot in TP. It makes the gameplay of that item very fun, but nobody complains about the upgrade of The Hookshot in OOT is literally *Exactly the same but it's longer*
Honestly, that's fair. The Longshot probably gets a pass because it comes just after the coolest mini-boss in the middle of the most infamous dungeon in LoZ history.
@@magi-yoshi41Nah, the Clawshot is fun, the game has already very cool items, not all needs to be Mindblowing, sometimes simple is good, youtubers just looks like they hate fun i guess, lol.
In Twilight Princess the horse call/Ilia’s charm is far worse. The 2nd claw shot is functionally useful and fun to use. By the time you get the horse call/Ilia’s charm, you have unlocked almost all the teleport locations anyway. And there is plenty of horse grass to call Epona if you do need her, which are usually near the teleport locations.
Another contender for the worst item in twilight princess is the bomblings. By the time you can get them, you already have the bow and can shoot bomb arrows.
I would've chosen the Dominion Rod for Twilight Princess, due to the fact that you can only use it on statues with holes in their chests, and it requires you to recharge the damn thing manually because Ooccoo doesn't remember the ritual to just recharge right then and there. So, you go across all of Hyrule to find necessary letters for the book you are given by the archeologist and that can take a good half hour to full hour to do.
Oh and while it's not necessarily related to the item in question, but it's hard to ignore the giant cannon in the room: that being there's a chance for a game-breaking bug to occur where you can't progress the game because the dude won't leave the room to allow you to warp the cannon out of it. So after ALL that screwing off to the four corners of the world just to find missing letters of a forgotten alphabet, there's a slim chance it'll amount to NOTHING and having to start the whole game over. Wow...fun... >.>
What about the beyblad-er i mean the spinner? I would argue it's more useless than the rod as you use it about twice maybe 3 or 4 times for 100% as you could just double clawshot instead of using it for the final bit of Zelda's castle
At least the Dominion Rod is a really cool idea, and the Temple of Time boss was a cool use of it. I was expecting the Bomblings, there's no situation where they're more useful than Bomb Arrows, and you can't use Water Bombs if you have them
Nah, bro was not cooking with the Twilight Princess choice. The double clawshot is an amazing item that's so fun to use whenever it pops up. City in the Sky uses it in so many fun puzzles, and the Argorak fight is one of my favorites. Who doesn't want to grapple around everywhere like that?
Personally I’d argue the slingshot is the most useless item I’m pretty sure you get the bow in the second dungeon and after that the slingshot is just a weaker version of the bow
@DigitalxGamer my pick is iron boots because while they see quite a bit of use, they are actively unfun to use. Having to use the iron boots is one of the few negative associations I have with TP
Holy crap! This video has the vibes of 2010, and the production quality of the 2020s. I will watch every single video you make in this style Jared. Please take us back to the past!
Production quality of 2020s? Like, I liked the video, and agree with the 2010s vibe, but it’s just footage from the games he’s talking about with a voice over. Pretty sure you could get this level of quality back then too lol
@@TheRoninteam Not going to lie, if he decided to do a collab with James for his FF13 review, I'd click so damn hard that Jared wouldn't walk straight for a week.
I’m surprised the ice arrows weren’t the worst item in ocarina of time. You had to do a big side quest for them and they aren’t used for anything. At least bombchus can break walls, plus I always liked using them to kill the big moblin in the hallway leading to the forest temple. (Also the blast mask is pretty good, you get it before bombs and if you use your shield while exploding you don’t take any damage.)
Honestly, even the fire arrows aren't very useful in OoT. I think there's one total puzzle that can be done marginally faster if you had them, but it's a puzzle that can be done with normal arrows anyway. I definitely think Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild have the best iterations of the elemental arrows
i ONCE decided i wanted to see what would happen if i shot Ice arrows at that Dragon boss, Volvagia. this was harder than i thought, you NEED the upgraded Hookshot from the Water dungeon to get them, so i had to do the Water dungeon BEFORE the Volcano dungeon! BUT, nothing special happened! what a waste.
Just feels like he's desperate for more comments or something with that choice. The dominion rod becomes worthless after it's dungeon, and totally-not-bombchus-but-worse are also in the game.
@@schnek8927 Yeah, the Dominion Rod becomes literally useless outside of it's dungeon (and maybe like 1 use in cave of ordeals). I feel like they should have just said "fk it" if they couldn't implement more stuff for the rod, and just let you possess lesser enemies to aid you in combat against other enemies.... or something. Or let you possess (or, charm rather) robotic enemies, like armos and beamos.
I will not accept the slander against the second clawshot. It's fun to use and opens up a lot of interesting movement the single clawshot can't achieve. More to the point though, the Dominion Rod and the Bug Bombs are right there - obviously worse items. If we're counting armors, then the Magic Armor trumps them all
Tbh, I kinda agree with Jared on this one; I feel like it'd have been cooler if it unlocked more combat & mobility options, but as it stands, it's just a clawshot you can use whilst clinging to another surface; if that's all it did, then why was that not a default functionality of the Clawshot to begin with? It's the same problem I have with the Longshot being an upgrade to the Hookshot in OoT...as in...why? Yeah the Dominion Rod's not particularly useful, though the Bug Bombs are...kinda useful; and the Magic Armor...I'm convinced is only really useful for when you need to get rid of some Rupees lining your pockets just to get that one Treasure Chest you missed in a dungeon because this was the only Zelda game where it wouldn't let you take the treasure if you had just too many Rupees (seriously, Red Rupee in a chest, but I have just 19 shy of a full wallet, so I can't take it...why? That's so pointless and stupid!), other than that, though...eh...I could take it or leave it, but it's the side-quest just to get it that makes it so obnoxious. Farming for Rupees...just to get an armor...that uses your hard-earned Rupees...as a shield... K... :/
You are forgetting the horse call/iliya's charm, which lets you summon Epona, at the end of the game after you have unlocked all the fast travel locations, can freely transform into wolf link for fast movement, and you can find the grass to summon epona all over anyways.
I will still say in the original version of Majora’s Mask, the Circus Leader’s Mask is the most useless item. Aside from fodder to get the Fierce Diety’s mask, its only use is to stop the Gorman brothers from attacking you when you’re escorting the milk from Romani’s Ranch to Clock Town… but to even get the mask you need to have done that already. Meaning it’s one use is to make something you’ve done already slightly easier. At least in 3D they add an extra side quest for another bottle. So just falls into the “one and done” pile with many of the other masks.
To be fair, MOST of the masks in Majora's Mask only really have one use for one specific item (usually a Heart Piece), but yeah, hard to ignore just how thoroughly useless & redundant the Circus Leader's Mask is. :/
@ as I said, it is better in 3D cause of the extra bottle.. in a game with the most bottles already but it is a thing you can get with it. Thoroughly the worst mask bar none regardless.
@@TehLucario I suppose, yeah. Though, hot take, the Couple's Mask is worse; look I love the Kafei/Anju sidequest to death, it's tragic, it's wholesome, it's...completely pointless. The Couple's Mask does nothing...literally nothing afaik...aside from give you a Piece of Heart. I get more mileage out of more Bottles, but to only get a Piece of Heart and the mask has literally no functional use aside...? Yeah...kinda dumb, imo... :/
@@TehLucario I suppose, yeah. Between it and the Circus Leader's Mask, though, the Circus Leader's Mask has an actual functional use, even if said use is redundant. A lot of the masks felt too situational to be of any use, but the fact the Couple's Mask has NO situational use aside from earning a Heart Piece is just...I dunno... A little disappointing after everything you had to go through just to obtain it, ya know? :/
Nah, Mask of Scents. At least you get a fun quest with a lasting reward at the end for Couple's Mask. Mask of Scents is only good for getting Blue Potions from the Hag Potion Shop, which aren't even the only place that sells them...and the other (business Scrub in Ikana) just outright sells them, no mask or quest progression required!
Most masks are just quest items that don't serve a purpose outside of that quest, so I think he wanted to avoid focusing on that. But I still think the bomb mask wasn't a good choice as well. It has its uses.
@Micboss1000 yeah so it's by the time you obtain it, it's instantly useless, and the Mask of Scents is equally useless cause the use for it is so out of the way that there's no point
For Twilight Princess I would've picked the slingshot. It doesn't have much power or range, and it's basically useless after you get the bow in the 2nd dungeon. EDIT: I've been reminded that Ilya's Charm (the horse call) is even worse. By the time you get it you've basically unlocked every warp point in the game, and grass spots are plentiful anyway.
Even then it has its uses before you unlock the bow and can be used in a pinch if you wanna save your arrows. Something like the rod of dominion that's barely used in the game or the iron boots that actively make the game less fun would be better choices
Wait Jared, you could’ve counted Hestu’s gift as the worst BOTW item! It does actually do something in game, but its effect is so difficult to see that a lot of people don’t realize it’s a thing. When you have Hestu’s gift, it makes the weakest enemy types (the red ones, except Lynels obviously because they’re bosses technically) run away from you because you smell bad. The only problem? YOU’RE AT THE END OF THE GAME WHEN YOU GET IT! It is so difficult to find red enemies at the later stages of the game it’s entirely likely that you’d never even see this effect happen unless you literally search for an illusive red enemy
technically you could get it before completing any divine beast, but holy hell what type of psychopath would choose to collect 900 korok seeds before doing anything else
7:08 Wait... YOU CAN USE BOMBCHUS LIKE THAT?! All these years, I've been doing that puzzle the hard way, using the Magic Boomerang to navigate it through the narrow block maze just to hit the switch...
@@schwarzerritter5724 Good point; some players may forget to cut down the Termina Field grass. However, this would also leave the player with a lack of arrows, so in practice, the player will probably head back to violate vegetation for ammunition before encountering a scenario that demands explosives.
Considering you can shield the blast to block damage, yeah that's just a free bomb. More accurately, it's a way to blow up a certain wall without going out of your way to get the cycle's first bomb drop.
The Dominion Rod from Twilight Princess, which uses up all its cool features in the dungeon it's found in. After that, it's just owl statues with no attacks. As for a more traditional item for Echoes of Wisdom, the bombs. This is due to their questionnable placement, as they're found after a required bombfish echo that works underwater *and* on land. They can also be upgraded to become bombchus, which are easily overshadowed by the other two weapons' upgrades.
While the telescope is technically kind of useless, I used it A LOT when I first played it as a kid imagining myself as an adventurer on the high seas. It allowed that sense of getting into character and immersion that was what I loved about Wind Waker.
The Blast Mask is very useful for when you turn back time and lose all of your bombs. If you want to run somewhere quickly and blow something up without taking the time to collect bombs, it's pretty convenient. You also avoid taking damage by just blocking while using it.
Not gonna lie, was waiting on the bait & switch for Twilight Princess. Thought your description was leading up to the rebranding of bombchus to bomblings.
The sand rod is pretty cool in the dungeon you need for it, but other than that it’s quite literally useless. Every other item in the game can be used for at least SOMETHING even if only fighting enemies, but the sand rod can’t do that. It’s no wonder that Sage got captured by Yuga in the eastern palace, he couldn’t even use the damn thing
I saw a fan theory that Ravio deliberately rented him the sand rod over any of the other items precisely because its utility was so narrow. Would explain why Ravio was willing to rent it to him at all given his plan.
The sand rod does have one use outside of sand, which is that it stuns enemies in the squares it hits. The nice sand rod even extends its range. I'd still say it's the worst item in the game because of how slow it is- the tornado rod is a much faster AoE stun if that's something you're looking for- but it's not entirely useless.
@Bogeynator I'm glad someone else realized it can stun without sand! The default rod is fairly useless compared to the other weapons. However, the Nice rod has the longest range of all the stun weapons - which is a pretty nice balance. I'm just glad someone else realized this, because I think most people don't know about it.
I have been waiting for the double clawshot to come back since TP Why there is no clawshot or a rune similar in the open world Zelda games I do not understand
OK, but hear me out. The bombchu bowling alley girl... I would conquer Hyrule for her. I don't care that bombchus are dumb. I don't care that bombchu bowling is annoying. She knows it's dumb. She's bored as hell. She's just working an entry level job to make ends meet. We could make it work.
The Magic Cape is how you got that Piece of Heart?! I remember trying to clip through that bumper as a kid and never could figure out how to get past it!
While this is only possible through randomizers or glitching the game, the Cape also lets you walk through the barrier to Agahnim you'd normally need the Master Sword to destroy.
My vote goes to the Red Candle from Level-7 from the Original LOZ. Because 1. You've already had the Blue Candle for 80% of the quest at this point. 2. And in level-8 you get the Spellbook Which lets the Magic Wand you get from level-6 Shoot Fire! rendering the Candle Moot for the remainder of the Game.
I actually like the Magic Cape more than the Cane of Byrna. Why? One very simple reason. Startup animation. The Cape is instantaneous. But the Cane forces Link into this awkward animation before it starts that keeps him in place. The Cape means you can just equip it and then pop it to pass through enemies and turn it off on the other side fluidly. This comes in handy in a few spots where you have a narrow bridge and enemies you can't just Dash through. Especially that one room in Ganon's Castle that has a crumbling bridge blocked by a fire bar. And the Cane's damage is basically unnoticeable. ...Huh. I can't say I expected to see Bomb Mask called the worst item in MM. Bombs may be aplenty, but you don't have to bother looking for them if you just throw on the bomb mask. Let's be real here: You're not using a bomb as a weapon, you're using it as a key. Destroy a cracked wall or a boulder on the overworld. The recharge time is irrelevant at that point. For Wind Waker, I actually pose to you an even MORE useless item. I actually HAVE used the Telescope a couple times before. I mostly use it when I'm looking for the seagull swarms that denote Big Octo locations as well as to try to find specific cannon boats or something hanging around an island that will drop something. Very niche uses, but I HAVE used them. But you know what I've ACTUALLY never legitimately used? BLUE CHU JELLY. These are exceptionally hard to find, limited in quantity, and just mildly annoying to acquire thanks to the fact that Blue Chus are electrified, so you have to use items. Their only purpose is to create the Blue Potion in Windfall's Potion Shop. Except that you can instead use 4 Boko Baba seeds, which are WAY more abundant, easier to obtain, and Holly's shop is right there along the main path of your adventure where you'll have enough Seeds to use it on your first visit. Twilight Princess: How dare you diss the ability to pull yourself across a huge gap by chaining targets together...when the Bombling exists. D< Or the Horse Call which comes WAY too late to be useful since by that point, you can warp almost anywhere you could possibly need to go, it won't take you long to get to your destination from a warp and there's probably a horse call reed on the way if you really are desperate. But Bombling is still the worst one. But other than those...yeah I think I largely agree with everything on the list. Damn you Bombchu. You're so much more easily found than the Bomb Bag in randomizers which means I can start blowing stuff up awkwardly
I played on my brother's save as a kid and it was pretty much the only thing he'd let me do, so I loved it. I wasn't allowed to fish after I broke his record and he couldn't top it lol
In windwaker the telescope is such a story-rich item, it's something you're supposed to return to your sister but never get the chance to do. It's a constant reminder of what you're fighting for. The magic armor on the other hand...
I mean, it does still technically have a use. It's a really weak use, but a use nonetheless. It blocks 100% of damage as long as you have Rupees. So it allows very Unga bunga/Berserker playstyles for a little bit. I wouldn't use it but some would.
It's also got a vital role in the speedrun extension category of low transforms. You need it for the most recent route where you only transform 4 times in the entire game. Meanwhile the hawkeye has no required uses in normal gameplay or speedrunning gameplay
No no no, Jared. No way!... you re-evaluate. The Double Clawshot might be the coolest item in the whole series (at least one of my ultimate favorites) Being some iron hands, clanking-sound Spiderman is so awesome. It also didn't bother me that I couldn't use it for combat... that was the Magic Armor, that was the coolest looking outfit in maybe the whole series but you can't turn the stupid rupee drain off! I just want to look awesome, dammit. What I think you mean to say for TP is that the SINGLE clawshot is the absolute worst, especially any playthrough after 1st playthrough. Not only do you have to wait a long time in the game to get the double, but it's just agonizing to get that single clawshot slapped in your face and you just hang around all... 1 clawed. (And thanks for the fun video, as always!)
I probably would have listed the Master Sword as TOTK’s worst item, mostly for how much its mechanics contradict with the lore. It’s stated to get stronger if exposed to sacred light, but despite 10k + years of draconified sacred light, it still breaks, it doesn’t restore its full durability for fusing, and it’s somehow weaker than it was in the previous game.
Speaking of items that are worse in TotK, why doesn't the Champion's Tunic show enemy hit points anymore? That was its best feature, why remove that?! It makes me so mad.
@@sega3607 the damage numbers in the menu are DPS not single hit. A weak but faster weapon will do more damage than a heavy and slow one in the same time frame
@@sega3607 *because casuals were underestimating spears due to the lows numbers???* You underestimate monkey brain so hard, bro, human like it when big number. Its not arbitrary, it was a calculated effort to make people diversify their play style, because uh... Newsflash, two handers are kind of shit but that's all people were using unless they were the top level people that make combat compilations
I would just ignore bombs all together in Majora's Mask and use the bomb mask the whole game. Also the dominion rod is the most useless item in Twilight Princess, it's just a fancy key.
even still, it is needed to clear the Temple of Time and it's use during the boss fight with Gohma is neat, sure it doesn't much use after the dungeon, but that's more then what i can say about the Slingshot where use ends after Orden Village
I would argue that the master key in Zelda 1 is the most useless, because while it is incredibly useful, you only get it in the last dungeon before spectacle rock, so unless you are playing a randomizer or sequence breaking, it only becomes useful for maybe a handful of locked doors. Then for OoT, I use bombchus plenty often, whereas I literally never use deku nuts or ice arrows. The latter also requires beating GTG to get
Everyone telling Projared that you can block with the bomb mask, but he does say that. People couldn't help but to comment it without watching 5 more seconds into the video.
I'm amazed people don't like the Bomb Mask. For me it's up there with the Bunny Hood and the Stone Mask as a fundamental utility mask. You never have to worry about having bombs for something because you can just whip out your shied and blow stuff up without taking damage. Aside from the few cases where you actually need to throw a bomb across a pit it's perfect.
I love the bomb mask, also handy for spontaneously combusting near multiple weak enemies. It reminds me of a Cyclops bit from X-Men. "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?" (Explosive lasers erupt from hitting the guy with sunglasses)
"I probably like Twilight Princess more than most people." Er, Jerd, have you looked at TP discourse lately? The game is basically hailed as much of a classic as the other older 3D Zelda these days. The days of people disliking or undervaluing TP are prettty much over.
For me, the Spirit Flute worked beautifully (as long as I wasn't playing on my 3DS or WII U). In fact, I remember being so impressed as a kid by how magically it worked on my DS lite! Still my favorite Zelda instrument to this day.
Wind Waker HD: Tingle Bottle. Miiverse poster that replaced the pretty cool tingle tuner rather than utilizing the gamepad in a way to make an even better tingle tuner.
This video is a vintage format, it feels like this has been sitting on the hard drive for 14 years and just now finally uploaded. No complaints from me, it's nice, it's familiar
Nah, I liked it too. It works fine once you figure out the right distance to hold the DS and remember not to blow too hard. But I preferred the Skull Engine, pulling off sick solos with the whistle.
Why is it implied deku nuts are a useless item. They stun virtually EVERYTHING in the game, making glitchless speed runs a breeze. Those fire bats that always burn your shield? Blown out of the sky. When you're surrounded by mobs? Let's you take them out without effort. Those annoying big skulltula? Freeze them and walk around them instead of taking out the bow or hookshot, or waiting for them to turn. The deku nuts are BROKEN when you figure the only thing they don't affect are redeads
Hold up: The Zonai Hydrant has limited uses, but I've used it a surprising amount... can *anyone* tell me what use the Zonai Mirror has to merit its inclusion as a dispenser item?!
There's a few places where you need a mirror. There are light sensors that you need to redirect the light toward. So if you don't have one in your inventory, you can't solve the puzzle. Do we need that many? No. But they *do* have a use. And they're fun. Put one on a shield and blind your enemy.
@@RomaisShah Zonai lights are useful in the depths. Yes you can use the Brightbloom Seeds, but the lights look a bit better if you're going for a pure machine build.
@thundercat_pumyra like you said, it helps with the looks and also uses energy cells I can understand someone preferring lights, and they're definitely not ENTIRELY useless, but still way more so than any other device, mirrors included
Great video! Though, I'd argue that the Magic Cape is better than Cane of Byrna. It's probably just my bias. I prefer using the Magic Cape and attacking normally, since the Master Sword deals x2 more damage than the Cane of Byrna, and x4, then x8 with upgrades. And since the Cane of Byrna pushes enemies away, you'll hit them less with our sword. You're mostly better off with the Magic Cape. If I were to pick the wrost item, it'd have to be the normal Bee.
I'm not sure why so many people had issues with the Skyward Sword controls. I feel like it might be that the Wii Motion Plus™ attachment is pretty shoddy compared to the golden Wiimote that has the function built in, which is what I used and had zero issues with. I even jammed on the harp for fun and did some sick solos in that performance minigame.
I've had far more problems with the motion controls of the Switch version than the original. I think the problem also comes down to two things. Batteries and sunlight. The only times I had trouble with the original was when the batteries were starting to die. Switch the batteries to fresh ones and the problem went away. And sunlight will mess with the Wiimote's sensor. I tended to play in darker rooms with not much sunlight. I'm guessing the people having problems were playing in a room with a lot of sunlight. The infrared from the sunlight drowns out the infrared signal being sent from the "sensor bar." And yeah, I always played with the wiimote that had the Motion+ included. Not the crappy add on part.
@@thundercat_pumyra I do like the update to allowing resetting the gyro from pretty much any screen tho, as opposed to the original when you had to open the menu, map, dowsing, or item to reset. Makes combat and skyward strikes much easier.
The Bomb Mask damage can be negated by holding the Shield up. In all honesty, the Bomb Mask kinda makes normal Bombs redundant due to the fact you have an Instant Explosion in your pocket. I don't recount many situations where I needed to use the normal Bombs. Every time I needed to explode something, Bomb Mask. Also, the Oracle duology's Bombchus have an upgraded feature: They Home in on enemies, actually. Place them down, and they beeline for an enemy. So they're useful than in the 3D games. They kinda suffer in that by the time you get them, you probably have only one or two dungeons left, or are already on the Linked Gannon Fight. I'd argue the Biggoron Sword is more useless, as the damage is equal to the Master Sword, but takes up both A/B buttons. You get a wide swing, sure, but I'm already dealing a lot more damage with quicker Master Sword swings anyways, and have the other Button open for items.
Twilight Princess is my favorite 3D Zelda, but even I will say that it suffers from the same Majora's Mask problem where a lot of the items are single-use. The Double Clawshot isn't really one of those though, so I'm not clear on why you hate it other than it not being a unique item. I mean, I guess if you're super excited opening a chest and then it just turns out to be an item you already have... yeah, that's disappointing, but worse in the game? Nah. Try Ilia's Charm. An item given to you late in the game that allows you to summon Epona whenever... even though at this point, you probably have most fast travel points unlocked and conveniently, there is Epona grass near most fast-travel points. There is no point for the charm other than to pad out your item circle. Or how about the bomblings? Basically bombchus. But unlike previous games, Twilight Princess allows you to shoot bomb arrows... completely negating the use of bombchus at all. And then all the single-use items that may have one specific use outside the dungeon you get them in. The Ball and Chain, Spinner, Dominion Rod (although I'd say the Dominion Rod is worse as it's overused for that stupid "collect the books" quest), the Slingshot (more because outside Ordon Village, you never use the thing), Hawkeye (there's hardly ever a time where you need to have extended vision for your bow. It's similar to the telescope from Wind Waker.), and the late-game Magic Armor (It looks cool, but constantly depleting your rupees just from having it on instead of just when taking damage was a big mistake). I like TP very much, but you could do a lot worse than Double Clawshots (and they did). I hope some day Nintendo returns to the TP-esque gameplay with Zelda, but just don't over-inflate the inventory.
The worst items in a Link between Worlds would absolutely be either the super lamp or super net. These are upgrades to the normal lamp and net obtained by clearing the hardest version of the game’s combat gauntlet, the Treacherous Tower, twice in the case of the net. They have eight times the power of the normal version, which from my own testing seems identical to the golden Master Sword. I don’t know which of the two i’d call worse since the net at least has a small spin attack that could technically make it usefull (though it’s to slow for me to see any scenario where this would come into play) and can deflect Yuganon’s magic, but it’s the one obtained through the second run of advanced Treacherous Tower which makes it harder to get than the lamp.
For BOTW, I thought Cryosis was pretty dumb. You can create a block of ice on water. Cool, I guess, but I feel like there was SO much potential that was lost making it restricted to water. Imagine being able to make instant cover anywhere, or an extra platform for tough climbs. Considering that you only get like four permanent items for the whole damn game, it sucks that one of them is so limited.
fishing rod in twilight princess. cuz thats all it does the fish dont do anything for you outside of maybe a heart piece, it distracts ganondorf but that fight isnt particularly hard anyway.
@@SchwubbySwabby The only reason the top wasn't cool is because outside of specific areas, it goes pathetically slow and only lasts a few seconds. If it just cruised all the time, I would actually love to be able to skate/surf while traveling long distances.
@@FelipeSL622 You can use a glitch to bypass the blizzard without the reekfish scent, but yeah in a casual run its required. Plus it's a decent option for distracting ganondorf so he doesnt block all your swings
The second clawshot adds a lot of functionality which you objectively couldn't achieve with just one (without feeling lame at least). I still respect the frustration, though, since you probably should've gotten both at once, like Skyward Sword. What I don't get is choosing that over the insanely useless dominion rod.
I'm so glad someone else had called out the weapon system of Breath of the Wild. Seriously, I'd rather have the giant's knife (as in, it doesn't get removed from your inventory, just turns into a rather pathetic weapon) over any weapon in that game.
"I'm so glad someone else had called out the weapon system of Breath of the Wild." Agreed. The other 1 million people who whined about that just weren't enough. We definitely needed one more. Years after the game has come out. JFC, get over it already!
Absolute disagree on the Bomb Mask , it's in many people's list of frequently used items. Same with the second claw shot. I remember when I got it, I thought... "Well, that's anti climatic, I already hav- WAIT, I CAN SWING AROUND!?! This was such an obvious upgrade, why did the Zelda series never think to do this before!?!" Illia's charm is a much worse item. There's grass everywhere and, even if there wasn't, the game gives it to you AFTER you learn to teleport.
if i remember, there's just one place in Ocarina of Time where you really need Bombchus. it's in the Light temple, you need to blow a hole in the Ceiling to let light in, so you can use the Mirror shield. or was that in Majora's Mask? i heard that in Breath of the WIld, you can aquire a "fire rod" and an "ice rod". IF you keep your distance, use their magical abilities, and don't literally SMACK enemies with them, then they won't ever break, unlike Bows!
In Ganon's tower, one of the six paths to break the barrier has a room where it gives you Bombchu's, and you have to use them to hit a switch in the back of the room behind iron bars through a gap at the top of the bars.
Honestly, I disagree with your last pick. Because at least it's useful for half a heart. What's worse are the extra pot echoes you learn that are the exact same as the first pot. You learn them just so they can clutter up your Echo log. They're not just worthless, they're less than worthless.
I Was Thinking The Light Arrow From A Link Between Worlds, Because, While Yes It’s Really Cool, It’s Only Used In The Final Bossfight And That’s It. And Even If You Could Keep It After You Beat The Game There Are No Enemies In The Walls Besides The Final Boss So It’s Completely Useless Outside Of It.
It is absolutely not a cop-out to say that every weapon, shield, and bow in BotW/TotK is worthless, because they are. I love those games, but goddamn. Weapon durability is a bad mechanic in every game it exists in.
Love the new content, but I will highlight that you don't take damage from the Bomb Mask if you have your shield out. Making it very useful for a quick 100-rupees in the Bomber's Hideout.
we've been spoiled today bois! good freaking projared videos doing good freaking projared stuff! honestly i missed this kind of projared vid, as much as I like his playthroughs and how funny it is, this scripted review/analysis/retrospective will always be comedy gold, the only missing part is the good bye summer hello winter intro by fantomenk. Great video by the way!
BROTHER you forgot about the bug bombs from Twilight Princess! They're just Bombchus but bug! You're telling me that the double clawshot is worse than an item you never use in any game and is so often forgotten that you yourself didnt mention it?
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG "They AoE stun almost everything." Including Ganon. And not just stunning him, but straight up damages him. You can kill him with them. They're as powerful as Light Arrows. They are extremely underrated things.
I beat Minish Cap multiple times and didn't even know there WAS a mirror shield until Jared mentioned it in the video. I suppose because after I beat the game I would walk away from it for a while before coming back to start up a NEW file is why.
@@LadyPhoenix20at least that has every adult link dungeon to be used Ice Arrows is obtainable at the EARLIEST with 3 full dungeons left but none of them (Fire, Shadow, and Ganon) make any good use of it
100% agree with Breath of the Wild's pick. Every weapon, bow, and shield. Such an annoying and pointless addition to the game, it's the reason I haven't finished it. I hate it. And I hate BotW and TotK because of it.
I feel like the item durability feature wouldn’t have been so bad if most of the items weren’t that great at damage wise and the general idea was you had access to those items until a later stage when you got more powerful permeanent items, or if every item broke and there was no permanent items that most of the gear was just generic and didn’t have that “oh wow this sword or bow had this cool feature” The big problem with BOTW durability imo is that it just makes collecting items tedious because collecting sword # 36 or bow #47 even if they have different functions annoying and irritating because I would rather have one decent reliable weapon. Like the only series were durability works is Fire emblem because the main point is inventory management because you control an entire army. It doesn’t work in Zelda because I don’t want to have to constantly manage links inventory that much. Like just give me a good list of reliable weapons and I’m happy.
It would have been more interesting if they made weapon durability work differently. Like only fragile weapons can completely break, like anything made out of wood for example, or anything that's rusted. As for most other weapons, they would just become dull, and do less damage the more "dull" they are. You could bring stuff to a blacksmith to repair them for a fee (and required materials if it's a rare/legendary weapon), and restore weapons to their full damage value. Perhaps dullness wouldn't affect blunt weapons. Maybe you could also modify weapon properties at a blacksmith, like say a random steel shortsword. You could lower the max damage, but in exchange, make it unbreakable/undullable, and it's damage always stays the same. Well, for BotW at least, because Tears' whole weapon schtick is "everything has been corrupted and corroded to shit lol just glue random parts to weapons with Zonai coom"
I feel like the durability system wouldn't be so bad if so many of them didn't permanently break, if there were some system where you could repair at least the powerful weapons. As it is, I gotta agree, the durability system is my least favorite aspect of BotW.
14:26 dude, you do realize that having weapons break makes sense from a story perspective. Because the war would’ve needed the best crafters of hyrule meaning their skill is gone so people can only do so much
From a story perspective yes it makes sense - but that was basically a bandaid explanation to the fact that they wanted to make more of a variety of equipable items. Which in and of itself isn’t a bad idea - they just had to try and reconcile it with the Zelda formula, and it didn’t quite fit for many of us, myself included. TotK made a better push for a story reason for garbage weapons, but that didn’t change the fact that it was still mechanically a bit vexing. Some of us just didn’t enjoy it. I personally don’t hate BotW or TotK, but the breakable gear system did feel a bit… off. It was annoying in Skyward Sword too. I guess I just didn’t want to have to worry about it. I don’t know, what do you think? I feel like there must be a solution somewhere… it’s not like it was entirely a bad idea. How do you think we could fix it so it fits with the mechanics a bit better? Maybe a sharpness system like Monster Hunter? That might cause its own problems. It’s almost like making video games is hard…😅
@ I more meant that the weapon quality is lower so that is why they break now. Not defending it, just saying that saying all the weapons are useless is not fair since the lizal weapons and moblin weapons are solid
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i remember the oracle games.(also enjoyed twilight princess for midna & especially best girl telma that i'd love to see in a sequel/option to romance her with how flirty she was to link.:3)
would say pictograph till you get the color addition(which is dumb the pictures not counting in the gallery for as fun as collecting figurines in games are to me.) was worse than telescope.
love more zelda reviews/can't hide from ff 13 forever.
Jared, thank you for pointing out every shield and weapon in Breath of the Wild.
That's why I didn't understand the hype for BOTW. Tears of the Kingdom was much better because of the fuse ability.
Suuuuure it is. You just don't wanna play 13.
im watching this on opera gx, also you could play XIII?
I think I already have it installed even if I don't use it(in the past, it was prone to crash upon bootup after a while), but hey, if it helps the channel, I'll uninstall it and then reinstall it with your link.
Also, I didn't know your PC's broken. Hope that gets sorted out soon.
Considering that you lose all your bombs every time you reset, the Bomb Mask has come in handy more than once.
Absolutely this, it's one of my go-to masks so I never have to bother withdrawing rupees to buy bombs when I start a new run lol
I remember as kid using it every new cycle to get the 200 rupees in tunnel to the observatory to buy more stuff quickly
you also only have a limited amount of bombs and can run out. the bomb mask is unlimited uses.
@@thechatteringclown Yeah honestly, I wish it was in more Zelda games, I love it lol.
Yeah. The bomb mask is probably one of the better masks in the game for that reason. Like sure, bombs are safer against enemies, but if you want to blow up something like a wall with no enemies around, you can use the bomb mask as a bomb that doesn't waste any ammo. Compare that the masks that are useful for one sidequest and nothing else, and the Bomb Mask is nowhere close to the worst item in that game.
I've never understood why people talk shit about the other Clawshot in TP. It makes the gameplay of that item very fun, but nobody complains about the upgrade of The Hookshot in OOT is literally *Exactly the same but it's longer*
Honestly, that's fair. The Longshot probably gets a pass because it comes just after the coolest mini-boss in the middle of the most infamous dungeon in LoZ history.
Excatly my thought. I loved the second clawshot in TP but was always disappointed by the longshot in OOT.
I think both are disappointing, but the double clawshot at least gives way to a cool boss fight
The OoT Long-Hookshot is a cute pickup line
The TP Double-Clawshot is sexual harassment
@@magi-yoshi41Nah, the Clawshot is fun, the game has already very cool items, not all needs to be Mindblowing, sometimes simple is good, youtubers just looks like they hate fun i guess, lol.
In Twilight Princess the horse call/Ilia’s charm is far worse.
The 2nd claw shot is functionally useful and fun to use.
By the time you get the horse call/Ilia’s charm, you have unlocked almost all the teleport locations anyway. And there is plenty of horse grass to call Epona if you do need her, which are usually near the teleport locations.
i agree the charm is stupid
Fair enough
Another contender for the worst item in twilight princess is the bomblings.
By the time you can get them, you already have the bow and can shoot bomb arrows.
Its just cause we got it too late in the game
I was thinking the control rod. It's only use was half a dungeon, then an annoying scavenger hunt.
I would've chosen the Dominion Rod for Twilight Princess, due to the fact that you can only use it on statues with holes in their chests, and it requires you to recharge the damn thing manually because Ooccoo doesn't remember the ritual to just recharge right then and there. So, you go across all of Hyrule to find necessary letters for the book you are given by the archeologist and that can take a good half hour to full hour to do.
it has been ages since i played the game - do you use it outside of the tower you get it in?
i remember loving the sounds it and the stairs made
Oh and while it's not necessarily related to the item in question, but it's hard to ignore the giant cannon in the room: that being there's a chance for a game-breaking bug to occur where you can't progress the game because the dude won't leave the room to allow you to warp the cannon out of it. So after ALL that screwing off to the four corners of the world just to find missing letters of a forgotten alphabet, there's a slim chance it'll amount to NOTHING and having to start the whole game over. Wow...fun... >.>
What about the beyblad-er i mean the spinner? I would argue it's more useless than the rod as you use it about twice maybe 3 or 4 times for 100% as you could just double clawshot instead of using it for the final bit of Zelda's castle
At least the Dominion Rod is a really cool idea, and the Temple of Time boss was a cool use of it.
I was expecting the Bomblings, there's no situation where they're more useful than Bomb Arrows, and you can't use Water Bombs if you have them
@@averysmalman8191 I forgot bomblings existed honestly
Nah, bro was not cooking with the Twilight Princess choice. The double clawshot is an amazing item that's so fun to use whenever it pops up. City in the Sky uses it in so many fun puzzles, and the Argorak fight is one of my favorites. Who doesn't want to grapple around everywhere like that?
Yeah I'm with you on that one. TP worst pick I thought was pretty easy: Bomblings. Bombchus but weirder.
I bet Jared would've had a different opinion if Double Claws was a mid-game item and not something you get in the 3rd-last dungeon in the game.
Same, I don't get what he was going for. Also, fellow Argorok fan, woo!
Personally I’d argue the slingshot is the most useless item
I’m pretty sure you get the bow in the second dungeon and after that the slingshot is just a weaker version of the bow
@DigitalxGamer my pick is iron boots because while they see quite a bit of use, they are actively unfun to use. Having to use the iron boots is one of the few negative associations I have with TP
Holy crap! This video has the vibes of 2010, and the production quality of the 2020s. I will watch every single video you make in this style Jared. Please take us back to the past!
As long as it's not to play some shitty games that suck ass. That's the job of another nerd entirely!
Production quality of 2020s? Like, I liked the video, and agree with the 2010s vibe, but it’s just footage from the games he’s talking about with a voice over. Pretty sure you could get this level of quality back then too lol
to play the shitty games that suck ass? Uhmm this is the wrong channel!
@@TheRoninteam Haha!! Same brain! XD
@@TheRoninteam Not going to lie, if he decided to do a collab with James for his FF13 review, I'd click so damn hard that Jared wouldn't walk straight for a week.
You can’t run away from 13 forever Jared
Yeah.
Sure he can! FF13 has only knows hallways. Jared just had to do an occasional side quest, and he’ll be invisible to it.
This joke got old a long time ago.
He refused to play it again.
THAT'S his review of FFXIII.
He'll skip it for 15 instead.
Thanks for the video ProJared. I'm glad you are still around :)
*grabs collar of shirt and pulls it 3 times*
I’m surprised the ice arrows weren’t the worst item in ocarina of time. You had to do a big side quest for them and they aren’t used for anything. At least bombchus can break walls, plus I always liked using them to kill the big moblin in the hallway leading to the forest temple.
(Also the blast mask is pretty good, you get it before bombs and if you use your shield while exploding you don’t take any damage.)
Yeah. The Ice Arrow in OoT is useless. Thank goodness Majora's Mask made it so much better
Honestly, even the fire arrows aren't very useful in OoT. I think there's one total puzzle that can be done marginally faster if you had them, but it's a puzzle that can be done with normal arrows anyway. I definitely think Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild have the best iterations of the elemental arrows
i ONCE decided i wanted to see what would happen if i shot Ice arrows at that Dragon boss, Volvagia.
this was harder than i thought, you NEED the upgraded Hookshot from the Water dungeon to get them, so i had to do the Water dungeon BEFORE the Volcano dungeon!
BUT, nothing special happened!
what a waste.
@conorb.1901 Well the Fire Arrow can light up other torches for more goodies & such and they do more damage than your normal arrow.
That's a great point. Never got the Ice Arrows before, and I don't think I will anytime soon
I hate mazes
What is this disrespect towards the double clawshot!
Yeah i rolled my eyes so hard.
Just feels like he's desperate for more comments or something with that choice.
The dominion rod becomes worthless after it's dungeon, and totally-not-bombchus-but-worse are also in the game.
@@schnek8927 I feel like they never put those useless bug bombs on these types of Tops because they literally don't remember them.
@@schnek8927 Yeah, the Dominion Rod becomes literally useless outside of it's dungeon (and maybe like 1 use in cave of ordeals).
I feel like they should have just said "fk it" if they couldn't implement more stuff for the rod, and just let you possess lesser enemies to aid you in combat against other enemies.... or something. Or let you possess (or, charm rather) robotic enemies, like armos and beamos.
I will not accept the slander against the second clawshot. It's fun to use and opens up a lot of interesting movement the single clawshot can't achieve. More to the point though, the Dominion Rod and the Bug Bombs are right there - obviously worse items. If we're counting armors, then the Magic Armor trumps them all
Tbh, I kinda agree with Jared on this one; I feel like it'd have been cooler if it unlocked more combat & mobility options, but as it stands, it's just a clawshot you can use whilst clinging to another surface; if that's all it did, then why was that not a default functionality of the Clawshot to begin with? It's the same problem I have with the Longshot being an upgrade to the Hookshot in OoT...as in...why? Yeah the Dominion Rod's not particularly useful, though the Bug Bombs are...kinda useful; and the Magic Armor...I'm convinced is only really useful for when you need to get rid of some Rupees lining your pockets just to get that one Treasure Chest you missed in a dungeon because this was the only Zelda game where it wouldn't let you take the treasure if you had just too many Rupees (seriously, Red Rupee in a chest, but I have just 19 shy of a full wallet, so I can't take it...why? That's so pointless and stupid!), other than that, though...eh...I could take it or leave it, but it's the side-quest just to get it that makes it so obnoxious. Farming for Rupees...just to get an armor...that uses your hard-earned Rupees...as a shield... K... :/
You are forgetting the horse call/iliya's charm, which lets you summon Epona, at the end of the game after you have unlocked all the fast travel locations, can freely transform into wolf link for fast movement, and you can find the grass to summon epona all over anyways.
I will still say in the original version of Majora’s Mask, the Circus Leader’s Mask is the most useless item. Aside from fodder to get the Fierce Diety’s mask, its only use is to stop the Gorman brothers from attacking you when you’re escorting the milk from Romani’s Ranch to Clock Town… but to even get the mask you need to have done that already. Meaning it’s one use is to make something you’ve done already slightly easier.
At least in 3D they add an extra side quest for another bottle. So just falls into the “one and done” pile with many of the other masks.
To be fair, MOST of the masks in Majora's Mask only really have one use for one specific item (usually a Heart Piece), but yeah, hard to ignore just how thoroughly useless & redundant the Circus Leader's Mask is. :/
@ as I said, it is better in 3D cause of the extra bottle.. in a game with the most bottles already but it is a thing you can get with it. Thoroughly the worst mask bar none regardless.
@@TehLucario I suppose, yeah. Though, hot take, the Couple's Mask is worse; look I love the Kafei/Anju sidequest to death, it's tragic, it's wholesome, it's...completely pointless. The Couple's Mask does nothing...literally nothing afaik...aside from give you a Piece of Heart. I get more mileage out of more Bottles, but to only get a Piece of Heart and the mask has literally no functional use aside...? Yeah...kinda dumb, imo... :/
@@bluestreaker9242oh I can’t argue that. But still gives you the heart piece in both versions so that’s still better than nothing.
@@TehLucario I suppose, yeah. Between it and the Circus Leader's Mask, though, the Circus Leader's Mask has an actual functional use, even if said use is redundant. A lot of the masks felt too situational to be of any use, but the fact the Couple's Mask has NO situational use aside from earning a Heart Piece is just...I dunno... A little disappointing after everything you had to go through just to obtain it, ya know? :/
For the MM entry, I'd argue the Couple's Mask is worse. All that work, meticulous timing, and for what? A single piece of heart
Nah, Mask of Scents. At least you get a fun quest with a lasting reward at the end for Couple's Mask.
Mask of Scents is only good for getting Blue Potions from the Hag Potion Shop, which aren't even the only place that sells them...and the other (business Scrub in Ikana) just outright sells them, no mask or quest progression required!
of the mask's, the Circus Leader Mask and the Mask of Scents are the most worthless in the entire game
Most masks are just quest items that don't serve a purpose outside of that quest, so I think he wanted to avoid focusing on that. But I still think the bomb mask wasn't a good choice as well. It has its uses.
@@bulborb8756 Definitely the circus leader mask, it can only be obtained AFTER doing the only thing it is used for.
@Micboss1000 yeah so it's by the time you obtain it, it's instantly useless, and the Mask of Scents is equally useless cause the use for it is so out of the way that there's no point
For Twilight Princess I would've picked the slingshot. It doesn't have much power or range, and it's basically useless after you get the bow in the 2nd dungeon.
EDIT: I've been reminded that Ilya's Charm (the horse call) is even worse. By the time you get it you've basically unlocked every warp point in the game, and grass spots are plentiful anyway.
Even then it has its uses before you unlock the bow and can be used in a pinch if you wanna save your arrows.
Something like the rod of dominion that's barely used in the game or the iron boots that actively make the game less fun would be better choices
@@utes5532 It has 1 use before you get bow and arrows are common.
@@tellierbop Yeah, that one use is shooting enemies from a distance. Which is a *very* useful thing.
not really
Ilia’s charm is much less useful, considering how late in the game you get it.
Wait Jared, you could’ve counted Hestu’s gift as the worst BOTW item!
It does actually do something in game, but its effect is so difficult to see that a lot of people don’t realize it’s a thing. When you have Hestu’s gift, it makes the weakest enemy types (the red ones, except Lynels obviously because they’re bosses technically) run away from you because you smell bad. The only problem?
YOU’RE AT THE END OF THE GAME WHEN YOU GET IT! It is so difficult to find red enemies at the later stages of the game it’s entirely likely that you’d never even see this effect happen unless you literally search for an illusive red enemy
Wait... Hestu's Gift actually does something!? I thought it was just a useless lump of shit! (It is for the most part, but you know...)
I wish more games would give you the option to turn level scaling OFF.
I didn't know Hestu's Gift was a thing before watching this video, because collecting every single Korok Seed was never on my agenda.
technically you could get it before completing any divine beast, but holy hell what type of psychopath would choose to collect 900 korok seeds before doing anything else
Shouldn't seeing certain enemies be as simple as going to wherever they exist on the map? Or do the enemies change as you make progress.
7:08 Wait... YOU CAN USE BOMBCHUS LIKE THAT?!
All these years, I've been doing that puzzle the hard way, using the Magic Boomerang to navigate it through the narrow block maze just to hit the switch...
Video's opinion on Bombchus: hated.
Video's example shows Bombchus: underrated.
Meanwhile OOT and MM speed runs love bomb chus
You’re going to get so much hate for the Double Claw Shot 😂
To be fair, the Bomb Mask could be useful if you run out of bombs. Then again, during my recent Majora's Mask playthrough, I *never* ran out of bombs.
Exactly this. Thanks to blast mask I had plenty of bombs handy in moments where I needed several (which was very rare).
You are only happy about the blast mask if you play a Majoras Mask randomizer and have no bombs. And people who do Speedruns love the Bombchus.
You lose all bombs every time you turn back time.
@@schwarzerritter5724 Good point; some players may forget to cut down the Termina Field grass. However, this would also leave the player with a lack of arrows, so in practice, the player will probably head back to violate vegetation for ammunition before encountering a scenario that demands explosives.
Considering you can shield the blast to block damage, yeah that's just a free bomb. More accurately, it's a way to blow up a certain wall without going out of your way to get the cycle's first bomb drop.
I like the little cards at the bottom of the screen that have the Item's name when you mention it, very screw-attack esque.
Jared _did_ have a show on Screw Attack back in the day after all.
Hell, very normalboots back when that was a thing.
"Blast Mask and Bombchus are worthless"
*Angry Speedrunner Noises*
I never liked bombchus until me and my friends started playing zelda multiplayer randomizers
I liked bombchu bowling **folds arms**
The Dominion Rod from Twilight Princess, which uses up all its cool features in the dungeon it's found in. After that, it's just owl statues with no attacks.
As for a more traditional item for Echoes of Wisdom, the bombs. This is due to their questionnable placement, as they're found after a required bombfish echo that works underwater *and* on land. They can also be upgraded to become bombchus, which are easily overshadowed by the other two weapons' upgrades.
What about the hawkeye? Unlike the dominion rod, there are no situations where the hawkeye is required
While the telescope is technically kind of useless, I used it A LOT when I first played it as a kid imagining myself as an adventurer on the high seas. It allowed that sense of getting into character and immersion that was what I loved about Wind Waker.
The Blast Mask is very useful for when you turn back time and lose all of your bombs. If you want to run somewhere quickly and blow something up without taking the time to collect bombs, it's pretty convenient. You also avoid taking damage by just blocking while using it.
Not gonna lie, was waiting on the bait & switch for Twilight Princess. Thought your description was leading up to the rebranding of bombchus to bomblings.
He probably forgot bomblings exist lol
The sand rod is pretty cool in the dungeon you need for it, but other than that it’s quite literally useless. Every other item in the game can be used for at least SOMETHING even if only fighting enemies, but the sand rod can’t do that. It’s no wonder that Sage got captured by Yuga in the eastern palace, he couldn’t even use the damn thing
I saw a fan theory that Ravio deliberately rented him the sand rod over any of the other items precisely because its utility was so narrow. Would explain why Ravio was willing to rent it to him at all given his plan.
The sand rod does have one use outside of sand, which is that it stuns enemies in the squares it hits. The nice sand rod even extends its range. I'd still say it's the worst item in the game because of how slow it is- the tornado rod is a much faster AoE stun if that's something you're looking for- but it's not entirely useless.
@Bogeynator I'm glad someone else realized it can stun without sand!
The default rod is fairly useless compared to the other weapons. However, the Nice rod has the longest range of all the stun weapons - which is a pretty nice balance.
I'm just glad someone else realized this, because I think most people don't know about it.
@@QuintingentNah, I would say the guy who rented the Rod was simply clueless about adventuring so he picked the rod out of all the items.
@@NoNameNoWhere Yeah, that's definitely how the game presents it, hence why it's just a fan theory.
The Double Clawshot plays a vital role in perhaps my favorite Zelda boss fight ever, so it's cool in my book. Seriously, Argorok is amazing.
I have been waiting for the double clawshot to come back since TP
Why there is no clawshot or a rune similar in the open world Zelda games I do not understand
Yep, I remember being hyped when I got the second clawshot as a kid. Being able to hook from surface to surface was so cool.
@@KaitouKaijuThe double clawshot was in Skyward Sword, but I completely agree that a freeform clawshot ability should’ve been in the open world games.
argorok fight was absolute cinema
15:22 *hearty chuckle*
OK, but hear me out.
The bombchu bowling alley girl... I would conquer Hyrule for her. I don't care that bombchus are dumb. I don't care that bombchu bowling is annoying. She knows it's dumb. She's bored as hell. She's just working an entry level job to make ends meet. We could make it work.
I sense this is a fanfic in the making XD
she doesn't have half of her body
but go off brother
@@spongemanhere She does in MM.
For me, it's the Clock Town Mayor's Office receptionist.
The Magic Cape is how you got that Piece of Heart?! I remember trying to clip through that bumper as a kid and never could figure out how to get past it!
While this is only possible through randomizers or glitching the game, the Cape also lets you walk through the barrier to Agahnim you'd normally need the Master Sword to destroy.
You had me there for a moment with dissing the bomb mask while actively misusing it, only to bait and switch with bombchus again.
My vote goes to the Red Candle from Level-7 from the Original LOZ. Because 1. You've already had the Blue Candle for 80% of the quest at this point. 2. And in level-8 you get the Spellbook Which lets the Magic Wand you get from level-6 Shoot Fire! rendering the Candle Moot for the remainder of the Game.
I actually like the Magic Cape more than the Cane of Byrna. Why? One very simple reason. Startup animation. The Cape is instantaneous. But the Cane forces Link into this awkward animation before it starts that keeps him in place. The Cape means you can just equip it and then pop it to pass through enemies and turn it off on the other side fluidly. This comes in handy in a few spots where you have a narrow bridge and enemies you can't just Dash through. Especially that one room in Ganon's Castle that has a crumbling bridge blocked by a fire bar. And the Cane's damage is basically unnoticeable.
...Huh. I can't say I expected to see Bomb Mask called the worst item in MM. Bombs may be aplenty, but you don't have to bother looking for them if you just throw on the bomb mask. Let's be real here: You're not using a bomb as a weapon, you're using it as a key. Destroy a cracked wall or a boulder on the overworld. The recharge time is irrelevant at that point.
For Wind Waker, I actually pose to you an even MORE useless item. I actually HAVE used the Telescope a couple times before. I mostly use it when I'm looking for the seagull swarms that denote Big Octo locations as well as to try to find specific cannon boats or something hanging around an island that will drop something. Very niche uses, but I HAVE used them. But you know what I've ACTUALLY never legitimately used? BLUE CHU JELLY. These are exceptionally hard to find, limited in quantity, and just mildly annoying to acquire thanks to the fact that Blue Chus are electrified, so you have to use items. Their only purpose is to create the Blue Potion in Windfall's Potion Shop. Except that you can instead use 4 Boko Baba seeds, which are WAY more abundant, easier to obtain, and Holly's shop is right there along the main path of your adventure where you'll have enough Seeds to use it on your first visit.
Twilight Princess: How dare you diss the ability to pull yourself across a huge gap by chaining targets together...when the Bombling exists. D< Or the Horse Call which comes WAY too late to be useful since by that point, you can warp almost anywhere you could possibly need to go, it won't take you long to get to your destination from a warp and there's probably a horse call reed on the way if you really are desperate. But Bombling is still the worst one.
But other than those...yeah I think I largely agree with everything on the list. Damn you Bombchu. You're so much more easily found than the Bomb Bag in randomizers which means I can start blowing stuff up awkwardly
Since you're asking: I had fun playing the bombchu bombing alley minigame.
I played on my brother's save as a kid and it was pretty much the only thing he'd let me do, so I loved it. I wasn't allowed to fish after I broke his record and he couldn't top it lol
0:37 so THAT’s where that mechanic from BotW came from.
In windwaker the telescope is such a story-rich item, it's something you're supposed to return to your sister but never get the chance to do. It's a constant reminder of what you're fighting for.
The magic armor on the other hand...
The Magic Armor in Twilight Princess.
An absurd amount of rupee grinding to get, and even more absurd rupee grind to use.
PBG and MatPat ranked it as the worst Zelda item ever, and I see where they're coming from. Why have such a coveted quest item be so worthless?
I mean, it does still technically have a use. It's a really weak use, but a use nonetheless. It blocks 100% of damage as long as you have Rupees. So it allows very Unga bunga/Berserker playstyles for a little bit. I wouldn't use it but some would.
It's also got a vital role in the speedrun extension category of low transforms. You need it for the most recent route where you only transform 4 times in the entire game. Meanwhile the hawkeye has no required uses in normal gameplay or speedrunning gameplay
I couldn't finish spirit tracks because my microphone stopped working halfway through and it thought that I was constantly trying to play it.
No no no, Jared. No way!... you re-evaluate.
The Double Clawshot might be the coolest item in the whole series (at least one of my ultimate favorites)
Being some iron hands, clanking-sound Spiderman is so awesome. It also didn't bother me that I couldn't use it for combat... that was the Magic Armor, that was the coolest looking outfit in maybe the whole series but you can't turn the stupid rupee drain off! I just want to look awesome, dammit.
What I think you mean to say for TP is that the SINGLE clawshot is the absolute worst, especially any playthrough after 1st playthrough.
Not only do you have to wait a long time in the game to get the double, but it's just agonizing to get that single clawshot slapped in your face and you just hang around all... 1 clawed.
(And thanks for the fun video, as always!)
Always nice to see a new Jerd video. Although now I miss Dylan. Still, always nice to see a new video from you.
I probably would have listed the Master Sword as TOTK’s worst item, mostly for how much its mechanics contradict with the lore. It’s stated to get stronger if exposed to sacred light, but despite 10k + years of draconified sacred light, it still breaks, it doesn’t restore its full durability for fusing, and it’s somehow weaker than it was in the previous game.
Speaking of items that are worse in TotK, why doesn't the Champion's Tunic show enemy hit points anymore? That was its best feature, why remove that?! It makes me so mad.
@ it would reveal that spears deal less damage than advertised.
@@sega3607 the damage numbers in the menu are DPS not single hit. A weak but faster weapon will do more damage than a heavy and slow one in the same time frame
@ that is a bullshit excuse and you know it. Why would the design team make such an arbitrary change in the gameplay?
@@sega3607 *because casuals were underestimating spears due to the lows numbers???*
You underestimate monkey brain so hard, bro, human like it when big number.
Its not arbitrary, it was a calculated effort to make people diversify their play style, because uh... Newsflash, two handers are kind of shit but that's all people were using unless they were the top level people that make combat compilations
I would just ignore bombs all together in Majora's Mask and use the bomb mask the whole game. Also the dominion rod is the most useless item in Twilight Princess, it's just a fancy key.
even still, it is needed to clear the Temple of Time and it's use during the boss fight with Gohma is neat, sure it doesn't much use after the dungeon, but that's more then what i can say about the Slingshot where use ends after Orden Village
I would argue that the master key in Zelda 1 is the most useless, because while it is incredibly useful, you only get it in the last dungeon before spectacle rock, so unless you are playing a randomizer or sequence breaking, it only becomes useful for maybe a handful of locked doors.
Then for OoT, I use bombchus plenty often, whereas I literally never use deku nuts or ice arrows. The latter also requires beating GTG to get
Deku Nuts are at least legitimately useful in combat and can trivialize alot of enemies as quickly as possible
@@ShaoShaoMienshao yeah the stun from the Deku Nuts is good, especially against enemies like Lizalfos and Dinolfos
I'd counter with the [s]Bible[/s]Book. It is worthless on its own and needs another item to even be used. What does it do? Long range red candle.
Mr Dylan's mother really nailed it, naming him "Editor"...
Everyone telling Projared that you can block with the bomb mask, but he does say that. People couldn't help but to comment it without watching 5 more seconds into the video.
10:00 Wow, imagine hating being spider link
Yeah I mean I can't even fathom having literaly the only objectively wrong opinion
I'm amazed people don't like the Bomb Mask. For me it's up there with the Bunny Hood and the Stone Mask as a fundamental utility mask. You never have to worry about having bombs for something because you can just whip out your shied and blow stuff up without taking damage. Aside from the few cases where you actually need to throw a bomb across a pit it's perfect.
I love the bomb mask, also handy for spontaneously combusting near multiple weak enemies. It reminds me of a Cyclops bit from X-Men.
"You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?"
(Explosive lasers erupt from hitting the guy with sunglasses)
"I probably like Twilight Princess more than most people."
Er, Jerd, have you looked at TP discourse lately? The game is basically hailed as much of a classic as the other older 3D Zelda these days. The days of people disliking or undervaluing TP are prettty much over.
Not while I live
For me, the Spirit Flute worked beautifully (as long as I wasn't playing on my 3DS or WII U). In fact, I remember being so impressed as a kid by how magically it worked on my DS lite! Still my favorite Zelda instrument to this day.
6:10 I'd like to thank the Oracle games are a whole hell of a lot more popular than just five hands
Yeah, no need to make us feel like boomers, Jared.
i love these types of videos :D they are very nostalgic for me because of you and pbg
Wind Waker HD: Tingle Bottle. Miiverse poster that replaced the pretty cool tingle tuner rather than utilizing the gamepad in a way to make an even better tingle tuner.
This video is a vintage format, it feels like this has been sitting on the hard drive for 14 years and just now finally uploaded. No complaints from me, it's nice, it's familiar
Am I the only person who loved the Spirit Flute? I thought it really worked work.
Nah, I liked it too. It works fine once you figure out the right distance to hold the DS and remember not to blow too hard. But I preferred the Skull Engine, pulling off sick solos with the whistle.
It sure did work work
Why is it implied deku nuts are a useless item. They stun virtually EVERYTHING in the game, making glitchless speed runs a breeze. Those fire bats that always burn your shield? Blown out of the sky. When you're surrounded by mobs? Let's you take them out without effort. Those annoying big skulltula? Freeze them and walk around them instead of taking out the bow or hookshot, or waiting for them to turn. The deku nuts are BROKEN when you figure the only thing they don't affect are redeads
I think the only reason people say they're useless is because they get too caught up trying to conserve it and never end up using it against enemies
Hold up: The Zonai Hydrant has limited uses, but I've used it a surprising amount... can *anyone* tell me what use the Zonai Mirror has to merit its inclusion as a dispenser item?!
I don't know what Jared's talking about, the hydrant is endlessly useful to me, especially for getting across lava.
There's a few places where you need a mirror. There are light sensors that you need to redirect the light toward. So if you don't have one in your inventory, you can't solve the puzzle. Do we need that many? No. But they *do* have a use. And they're fun. Put one on a shield and blind your enemy.
Nah the mirror is aight because light redirection puzzles are cool
What's really useless are the zonai lights
Genuinely why would you ever use them
@@RomaisShah Zonai lights are useful in the depths. Yes you can use the Brightbloom Seeds, but the lights look a bit better if you're going for a pure machine build.
@thundercat_pumyra like you said, it helps with the looks and also uses energy cells
I can understand someone preferring lights, and they're definitely not ENTIRELY useless, but still way more so than any other device, mirrors included
Great video! Though, I'd argue that the Magic Cape is better than Cane of Byrna. It's probably just my bias. I prefer using the Magic Cape and attacking normally, since the Master Sword deals x2 more damage than the Cane of Byrna, and x4, then x8 with upgrades. And since the Cane of Byrna pushes enemies away, you'll hit them less with our sword. You're mostly better off with the Magic Cape.
If I were to pick the wrost item, it'd have to be the normal Bee.
I'm not sure why so many people had issues with the Skyward Sword controls. I feel like it might be that the Wii Motion Plus™ attachment is pretty shoddy compared to the golden Wiimote that has the function built in, which is what I used and had zero issues with. I even jammed on the harp for fun and did some sick solos in that performance minigame.
The Harp is still awful with the Pro Controller, honestly.
I've had far more problems with the motion controls of the Switch version than the original. I think the problem also comes down to two things. Batteries and sunlight. The only times I had trouble with the original was when the batteries were starting to die. Switch the batteries to fresh ones and the problem went away. And sunlight will mess with the Wiimote's sensor. I tended to play in darker rooms with not much sunlight. I'm guessing the people having problems were playing in a room with a lot of sunlight. The infrared from the sunlight drowns out the infrared signal being sent from the "sensor bar." And yeah, I always played with the wiimote that had the Motion+ included. Not the crappy add on part.
@@thundercat_pumyra I do like the update to allowing resetting the gyro from pretty much any screen tho, as opposed to the original when you had to open the menu, map, dowsing, or item to reset. Makes combat and skyward strikes much easier.
Personally I love the shovel from Link's Awakening. You trade it for the Boomerang and never look back! 😂
The Bomb Mask damage can be negated by holding the Shield up. In all honesty, the Bomb Mask kinda makes normal Bombs redundant due to the fact you have an Instant Explosion in your pocket. I don't recount many situations where I needed to use the normal Bombs. Every time I needed to explode something, Bomb Mask.
Also, the Oracle duology's Bombchus have an upgraded feature: They Home in on enemies, actually. Place them down, and they beeline for an enemy. So they're useful than in the 3D games. They kinda suffer in that by the time you get them, you probably have only one or two dungeons left, or are already on the Linked Gannon Fight.
I'd argue the Biggoron Sword is more useless, as the damage is equal to the Master Sword, but takes up both A/B buttons. You get a wide swing, sure, but I'm already dealing a lot more damage with quicker Master Sword swings anyways, and have the other Button open for items.
Twilight Princess is my favorite 3D Zelda, but even I will say that it suffers from the same Majora's Mask problem where a lot of the items are single-use.
The Double Clawshot isn't really one of those though, so I'm not clear on why you hate it other than it not being a unique item. I mean, I guess if you're super excited opening a chest and then it just turns out to be an item you already have... yeah, that's disappointing, but worse in the game? Nah.
Try Ilia's Charm. An item given to you late in the game that allows you to summon Epona whenever... even though at this point, you probably have most fast travel points unlocked and conveniently, there is Epona grass near most fast-travel points. There is no point for the charm other than to pad out your item circle.
Or how about the bomblings? Basically bombchus. But unlike previous games, Twilight Princess allows you to shoot bomb arrows... completely negating the use of bombchus at all.
And then all the single-use items that may have one specific use outside the dungeon you get them in. The Ball and Chain, Spinner, Dominion Rod (although I'd say the Dominion Rod is worse as it's overused for that stupid "collect the books" quest), the Slingshot (more because outside Ordon Village, you never use the thing), Hawkeye (there's hardly ever a time where you need to have extended vision for your bow. It's similar to the telescope from Wind Waker.), and the late-game Magic Armor (It looks cool, but constantly depleting your rupees just from having it on instead of just when taking damage was a big mistake).
I like TP very much, but you could do a lot worse than Double Clawshots (and they did).
I hope some day Nintendo returns to the TP-esque gameplay with Zelda, but just don't over-inflate the inventory.
1:10 That's like 80 arrows I could save! (meat costs 60 rupees).
The worst items in a Link between Worlds would absolutely be either the super lamp or super net. These are upgrades to the normal lamp and net obtained by clearing the hardest version of the game’s combat gauntlet, the Treacherous Tower, twice in the case of the net. They have eight times the power of the normal version, which from my own testing seems identical to the golden Master Sword. I don’t know which of the two i’d call worse since the net at least has a small spin attack that could technically make it usefull (though it’s to slow for me to see any scenario where this would come into play) and can deflect Yuganon’s magic, but it’s the one obtained through the second run of advanced Treacherous Tower which makes it harder to get than the lamp.
I forgot about those weapons! The upgrades are (literally) a joke, and I love them for that!
Worst item is...your dumb friends. Man I felt that, we were all stupid playing 4 swords.
For BOTW, I thought Cryosis was pretty dumb. You can create a block of ice on water. Cool, I guess, but I feel like there was SO much potential that was lost making it restricted to water. Imagine being able to make instant cover anywhere, or an extra platform for tough climbs. Considering that you only get like four permanent items for the whole damn game, it sucks that one of them is so limited.
seems like editor dylan still has food
fishing rod in twilight princess. cuz thats all it does the fish dont do anything for you outside of maybe a heart piece, it distracts ganondorf but that fight isnt particularly hard anyway.
Don’t you get 2 empty jars from fishing? I know you at least get 1, that alone makes it better than the top or like, the hawk mask.
@@SchwubbySwabby The only reason the top wasn't cool is because outside of specific areas, it goes pathetically slow and only lasts a few seconds. If it just cruised all the time, I would actually love to be able to skate/surf while traveling long distances.
It gets you a bottle and is required for progression in the game without speedrunning tricks. Meanwhile the hawkeye is useless everywhere
Forgot a thing,
Fishing is required to progress through the story,
You can only make your way through the blizzard with the reekfish scent
@@FelipeSL622 You can use a glitch to bypass the blizzard without the reekfish scent, but yeah in a casual run its required. Plus it's a decent option for distracting ganondorf so he doesnt block all your swings
The second clawshot adds a lot of functionality which you objectively couldn't achieve with just one (without feeling lame at least). I still respect the frustration, though, since you probably should've gotten both at once, like Skyward Sword. What I don't get is choosing that over the insanely useless dominion rod.
Hawkeye
I'm so glad someone else had called out the weapon system of Breath of the Wild. Seriously, I'd rather have the giant's knife (as in, it doesn't get removed from your inventory, just turns into a rather pathetic weapon) over any weapon in that game.
"I'm so glad someone else had called out the weapon system of Breath of the Wild."
Agreed. The other 1 million people who whined about that just weren't enough. We definitely needed one more. Years after the game has come out.
JFC, get over it already!
Way more than 1 million sadly@@thundercat_pumyra
Absolute disagree on the Bomb Mask , it's in many people's list of frequently used items. Same with the second claw shot.
I remember when I got it, I thought... "Well, that's anti climatic, I already hav- WAIT, I CAN SWING AROUND!?! This was such an obvious upgrade, why did the Zelda series never think to do this before!?!" Illia's charm is a much worse item. There's grass everywhere and, even if there wasn't, the game gives it to you AFTER you learn to teleport.
I remember when MatPat and Peebs made a video like this like a decade back
I'm playing your intro jingle in my head even if you won't play it in this video.
if i remember, there's just one place in Ocarina of Time where you really need Bombchus.
it's in the Light temple, you need to blow a hole in the Ceiling to let light in, so you can use the Mirror shield.
or was that in Majora's Mask?
i heard that in Breath of the WIld, you can aquire a "fire rod" and an "ice rod".
IF you keep your distance, use their magical abilities, and don't literally SMACK enemies with them, then they won't ever break, unlike Bows!
I'm pretty sure that is only in master quest light temple.
In Ganon's tower, one of the six paths to break the barrier has a room where it gives you Bombchu's, and you have to use them to hit a switch in the back of the room behind iron bars through a gap at the top of the bars.
I think you mean the Spirit Temple, not the light temple.
@Role-Playing_Girl oops, i think you're right.
Fire and Ice rods do break if you use them properly. But they break much much quicker if you smack an enemy with them.
Honestly, I disagree with your last pick. Because at least it's useful for half a heart. What's worse are the extra pot echoes you learn that are the exact same as the first pot. You learn them just so they can clutter up your Echo log. They're not just worthless, they're less than worthless.
Jared I'm sorry, but the actual worst item in Twilight Princess is the Bomblings. The Double Clawshot is a wild pick.
A nice, simple, relatively video about incredibly specific videogame-things. Classic for a reason.
2:53 you're welcome
wow rude. this is his livelyhood you know.
I Was Thinking The Light Arrow From A Link Between Worlds, Because, While Yes It’s Really Cool, It’s Only Used In The Final Bossfight And That’s It. And Even If You Could Keep It After You Beat The Game There Are No Enemies In The Walls Besides The Final Boss So It’s Completely Useless Outside Of It.
It is absolutely not a cop-out to say that every weapon, shield, and bow in BotW/TotK is worthless, because they are. I love those games, but goddamn. Weapon durability is a bad mechanic in every game it exists in.
I like how Jared's worst OOT/MM items are also single-handedly the best items for speedrunning those two games
Link's render in hyrule warriors is cute af
Love the new content, but I will highlight that you don't take damage from the Bomb Mask if you have your shield out. Making it very useful for a quick 100-rupees in the Bomber's Hideout.
Great video as always. But remember.
You can't run away from Final Fantasy 13 forever Jared.
we've been spoiled today bois! good freaking projared videos doing good freaking projared stuff! honestly i missed this kind of projared vid, as much as I like his playthroughs and how funny it is, this scripted review/analysis/retrospective will always be comedy gold, the only missing part is the good bye summer hello winter intro by fantomenk. Great video by the way!
BROTHER you forgot about the bug bombs from Twilight Princess! They're just Bombchus but bug! You're telling me that the double clawshot is worse than an item you never use in any game and is so often forgotten that you yourself didnt mention it?
I miss these classic top 10 videos I used to watch from people like you, PBG, and JWittz
Eh, I used the Telescope to have an easier time spotting those flock of seagulls. lol
Feels like an upload from 2014. Love it. Hope all is well.
Personally, I don't think I've ever used deku nuts. So, worst item of Oot.
If you never used Deku Nuts, you are playing the game wrong. They are the most OP item in OoT & MM. They AoE stun almost everything.
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG you never need to AoE stun anything in OoT, because of the Z-targeting mechanics, enemies always attack you one at a time.
Try using them on Stalfos. You’ll never fight them without Deku Nuts again.
Ice Arrows are literally right there lol
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG "They AoE stun almost everything."
Including Ganon. And not just stunning him, but straight up damages him. You can kill him with them. They're as powerful as Light Arrows. They are extremely underrated things.
I beat Minish Cap multiple times and didn't even know there WAS a mirror shield until Jared mentioned it in the video. I suppose because after I beat the game I would walk away from it for a while before coming back to start up a NEW file is why.
I'm absolutely here for the TP Spinner.
I feel like the bombchu segments were just Jared venting after being stuck using them for so long in the OoT Randomizer…
You forgot the “bombchu” in TP…
I completely forgot that was even in that game. I literally bought it twice, and beat it three times, but I forgot about the skitter-bomb things.
While using the Mermaid Suit could be hard on your fingers, I like that you could swim faster with it.
The bait in Zelda 1 is incredibly useful for No Damage runs.
Meh
Nah the worst item in Ocarina of Time is Ice Arrows, takes so much time and is so late in the game that there's no use for them
I would also say Farore’s Wind is very useless.
@@LadyPhoenix20at least that has every adult link dungeon to be used
Ice Arrows is obtainable at the EARLIEST with 3 full dungeons left but none of them (Fire, Shadow, and Ganon) make any good use of it
100% agree with Breath of the Wild's pick. Every weapon, bow, and shield. Such an annoying and pointless addition to the game, it's the reason I haven't finished it. I hate it. And I hate BotW and TotK because of it.
FINALLY! A KINDRED SPIRIT! Agreed entirely.
I feel like the item durability feature wouldn’t have been so bad if most of the items weren’t that great at damage wise and the general idea was you had access to those items until a later stage when you got more powerful permeanent items, or if every item broke and there was no permanent items that most of the gear was just generic and didn’t have that “oh wow this sword or bow had this cool feature”
The big problem with BOTW durability imo is that it just makes collecting items tedious because collecting sword # 36 or bow #47 even if they have different functions annoying and irritating because I would rather have one decent reliable weapon.
Like the only series were durability works is Fire emblem because the main point is inventory management because you control an entire army.
It doesn’t work in Zelda because I don’t want to have to constantly manage links inventory that much. Like just give me a good list of reliable weapons and I’m happy.
It would have been more interesting if they made weapon durability work differently. Like only fragile weapons can completely break, like anything made out of wood for example, or anything that's rusted. As for most other weapons, they would just become dull, and do less damage the more "dull" they are. You could bring stuff to a blacksmith to repair them for a fee (and required materials if it's a rare/legendary weapon), and restore weapons to their full damage value. Perhaps dullness wouldn't affect blunt weapons.
Maybe you could also modify weapon properties at a blacksmith, like say a random steel shortsword. You could lower the max damage, but in exchange, make it unbreakable/undullable, and it's damage always stays the same.
Well, for BotW at least, because Tears' whole weapon schtick is "everything has been corrupted and corroded to shit lol just glue random parts to weapons with Zonai coom"
I feel like the durability system wouldn't be so bad if so many of them didn't permanently break, if there were some system where you could repair at least the powerful weapons. As it is, I gotta agree, the durability system is my least favorite aspect of BotW.
I would say ice arrows in OOT because they're an optional item that is not required to finish the game.
14:26 dude, you do realize that having weapons break makes sense from a story perspective. Because the war would’ve needed the best crafters of hyrule meaning their skill is gone so people can only do so much
Plausible lore doesn't make it more fun.
@ no I was trying to have it make sense and be less infuriating
I picked up the "work with what you have, you're a scavenger in a post-apocalypse" vibe, but it still was not fun.
From a story perspective yes it makes sense - but that was basically a bandaid explanation to the fact that they wanted to make more of a variety of equipable items. Which in and of itself isn’t a bad idea - they just had to try and reconcile it with the Zelda formula, and it didn’t quite fit for many of us, myself included. TotK made a better push for a story reason for garbage weapons, but that didn’t change the fact that it was still mechanically a bit vexing. Some of us just didn’t enjoy it. I personally don’t hate BotW or TotK, but the breakable gear system did feel a bit… off. It was annoying in Skyward Sword too. I guess I just didn’t want to have to worry about it.
I don’t know, what do you think? I feel like there must be a solution somewhere… it’s not like it was entirely a bad idea. How do you think we could fix it so it fits with the mechanics a bit better? Maybe a sharpness system like Monster Hunter? That might cause its own problems.
It’s almost like making video games is hard…😅
@ I more meant that the weapon quality is lower so that is why they break now. Not defending it, just saying that saying all the weapons are useless is not fair since the lizal weapons and moblin weapons are solid