get better at deck building (Pokemon TCG)

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  • @snekksuperior
    @snekksuperior 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    There's so many exceptions to every rule that I think it is a waste of time to tell them.
    You gave this "8~11" rule for energy.
    It doesn't apply to charizard, lugia vstar, miraidon, dragapult, or snorlax stall. All strong meta decks.

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      There are definitely reasons why those decks work and why those exceptions are pretty normal right now. It merits its own video, but these decks can get away with it because of prize/damage pathing and how they power up. For example, in Charizard ex you can typically expect to attack about three times in a game to get all 6 prizes, and late game you can use radiant Charizard for one energy to clutch up the last prizes, meaning on average you need 5 energy to successfully win a game. Then you up that energy count by 1 assuming that one of those energies gets prized. Without radiant Charizard, zard decks will probably switch to blood moon or just add 1 more energy. *Or switch to dusknoir to help snipe off single prize support Pokemon (which requires 0 energy)

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It's a much more advanced logic behind deck building and this video is meant more for helping players get to the intermediate level. It is a topic that needs addressing though! Thanks for pointing it out

    • @jeremye1159
      @jeremye1159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠ One problem with how you worded this point is that you specifically called out Charizard EX, saying “No deck should run such an energy count” while you had Charizard EX on screen, even though it can function with only 6 energies

    • @Ivan2Jura
      @Ivan2Jura หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@jeremye1159not if they meet me and my espathra ex deck...😂
      Love it when they only play 6-7 energies and then relize they need 60% of their decks energies to do 1 attack 😂 especially if it's a newer player and puts an energy on Pidgeotto 😂

  • @Mikethepanda
    @Mikethepanda 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Thanks phone, if you hadn't been spying on me making a new deck, this video wouldn't of popped up!

    • @FakeforFaith
      @FakeforFaith 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was expecting to get pure Pokémon videos after I was trying to build a poison-type deck.

  • @WinEntity
    @WinEntity 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is the kind of energy every youtuber needs. 10/10 video, 10/10 channel. Easy sub

  • @TheBanefulBunker
    @TheBanefulBunker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Honestly I’ve been looking for a good tutorial on building a deck and this one was it, it was informative and the furret animations kept my adhd engaged so thank you I’ll finally be able to build a somewhat useable blissey deck that matches my playstyle

  • @hypnotik762
    @hypnotik762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Okay honestly this video was super informative, I thought it was gonna one of those beginner how to build your first deck videos but it helps people who have been to multiple regionals/ tournaments, thank you a bunch

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That was the goal! I noticed that there wasn't much for intermediate players

  • @arrowb.8438
    @arrowb.8438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I always loved playing a deck that was based around fishing out magmortar and registeel. It was a blast and dealt huge damage. Not even slightly competition viable im sure, but it was a blast in my younger years.

  • @Vi0lentSerpent
    @Vi0lentSerpent 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Unless I am mistaken, tech cards are usually cards that aim to help with one specific match up (like drapion V to deal with mew V max). They usually lower consistency overall

    • @ihaveanamewow1983
      @ihaveanamewow1983 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tech cards can count for multiple matchups, like lost vacuum in decks like zard

  • @dade071
    @dade071 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! I have watched countless deck building videos and the minority are focused on basic deck building or mono decks which is great for understanding the basics of deck make up but when i search out competitive decks i have been directed to the Limitless site and that is also great information for seeing what has worked for others but i need to know how and why and what. You have given me that here and i really appreciate you. First video that i have seen so far with any mention of testing your deck on your own. Thank you for showing me what that looks like and how to do it.
    I know that there are a lot of people who watch TH-cam videos just to make negative comments to meet some deep psychological need in their life and thats okay too i guess, but just know that what you have presented here has helped this new Pokrmon player far more than any other video i have watched to this point and i have watched a lot of them.

  • @ZincLeadAlloy
    @ZincLeadAlloy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another thing to consider with energy is using items instead of energy like energy search or earthen vessel because they’re searchable

  • @Ivan2Jura
    @Ivan2Jura หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saw this video right as I was getting into the game again and it was super useful!
    Funny how rewatching it now that I am going to my first local tournament (and played probably 500 matches in ptcgl) I realise how super beginner friendly this was!
    Thank you 😊

  • @quicksilver3263
    @quicksilver3263 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This style of video is primed to blow up in this niche and I think it's pretty good too 😃 hopefully there are more to come. I would like to see some examples of what you're talking about, you mentioned Pokestop is a tech card but LZB and Chien Pao both run 3-4 copies of it, essentially making it an engine card. They can afford to do this because they run very thin supporter lines and upwards of 32 items

  • @drops043
    @drops043 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "drop some mons"
    > follows rule
    > gets a mulli
    > pain

  • @NyxieeeeeNyxie
    @NyxieeeeeNyxie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hoping for more TCG vídeos in the future, I loved your vibes!

  • @MaroonerForeverr
    @MaroonerForeverr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! Im not really building a deck but I am upgrading one and you just gave me the inspiration and ideas I needed!!

  • @snakelegendary5602
    @snakelegendary5602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the animation of this channel!

  • @artbanks27
    @artbanks27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very helpful, thanks a lot!

  • @BlackIsALightShade
    @BlackIsALightShade 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for this video! it was very helpful and informative while remaining concise

  • @Charmaster04
    @Charmaster04 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:31 *Neglects to mention the competitively viable Furret. Either of them, actually.*
    *Sad Aquapolis and Secret Wonders sounds.*

  • @jiffyb333
    @jiffyb333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just the video I was looking for! Thank you for this ❤️

  • @TankWilliams-r8b
    @TankWilliams-r8b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great video

  • @chiefchimchar
    @chiefchimchar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in the process of building my first deck, and I'm struggling to decide whether to use all the Pokémon I like or cutting the Pokémon count down a little to increase deck consistency. I'm currently sitting at 19 Pokémon, but I'm playing a Magmortar/Electivire combo alongside a few copies of Infernape.
    I only plan on playing casually, but I'd still like to make the deck as viable as possible. This is a very helpful guide that will hopefully assist me in achieving that goal

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cutting Pokemon can be the toughest part! You'll like the idea and the Pokemon in theory and then it doesn't pan out. It's one of the saddest feelings for me

    • @chiefchimchar
      @chiefchimchar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eonforest4 Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. I bought the full arts of Magmortar and Electivire from Crown Zenith because I love the art, but I don't think they're going to work as well as something like Camerupt would with the new Infernape that just came out. All I can do is test it and swap them out if it doesn't work out. Worst case, they'll look good on display!

  • @DominoTheDog910
    @DominoTheDog910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video 😊😊

  • @snakelegendary5602
    @snakelegendary5602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My deck is a control deck built around toedscruel that moves energy onto opponents that aren't main attackers and trapping pokemon in active

  • @IEye-SR-
    @IEye-SR- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well, my deck is build around Alakazam ex (S&V 151 Mew Edition) and it looks like this
    Pokémon 20x
    • Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam ex 1x (Regular Set)
    • Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam ex 3x (Promo Set)
    • Mewtwo 1x
    • Mew ex 1x
    • Farfetch'd 4x
    • Kangaskhan ex 1x
    • Aerodactyl 2x
    Items/Supporters/Stadiums/Tools 25x
    • Antique Old Amber 4x
    • Big Air Baloon 2x
    • Bill's Transfer 4x
    • Cycling Road 1x
    • Daisy's Help 2x
    • Energy Sticker 4x
    • Erika's Invitation 4x
    • Giovanni's Charisma 2x
    • Leftovers 2x
    Basic Energy 15x
    • Psychic Energy 12x (Regular Set)
    • Psychic Energy 3x (Holo)
    and I am quite content with it, each card is there for a reason and the deck itself is pretty consistent
    Obviously it's heavy hitter is Alakazam ex, sometimes Kangaskhan ex if the deck is shuffled way too much 😅 or my price cards are holding hostage some of my Alakazam's ex evolutions.
    Farfetch'd is there to help me with quick card draws and Aerodactyls are there to cause issues with my opponents evolutions if necessary, plus they hit quite hard for little energy.
    Mew ex is there to "watch" over main star of the deck and Mewtwo is there to slow the opponent down for a bit and so on...
    yes the deck is build around just one expansion, that is S&V 151 Mew Set but it works well, especially because of those four Alakazams which are just insane and for just two energy.
    if need be, I got Energy Stickers to fish my discarded Energy back to my hand and the Stadium is there to accelerate my pull rate even more
    Daisy is there to reveal my price cards and give me a pull rate boost for the turn and Giovanni is there to slow down powering of my opponents pokémon
    Air Baloons are there to help facilitate my free retreat cost rotations and Leftovers are there to help with healing my pokémon that I use to slow the opponent down a bit until I get my Alakazams online
    Erika is there to bring forth basic unpowered pokémon to the active spot for one hit KO's and Bill is there to accelerate my pullrate of needed evolutions
    The Energies are there to power up my pokemon in just right amount, little extra due to my Stadium if need as a secrifitial cards which I can pull out with my other item
    so far, the deck is serving me quite well
    7/10 win rate :)
    I usually loose when my price cards are not cooperating 😅 or my energy pull rate is abysmal due to well shuffled deck (little too good)
    I recommend this teck for playing, you should give it a try :)

  • @user-eu1em2em6z
    @user-eu1em2em6z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are a genius ❤❤❤

  • @yuugael4010
    @yuugael4010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean counter point 0:09 a good pilot just need to net deck 😂,
    this of course is a joke and a balance at both is whats important for anyone wanting to compete

  • @jorgect127
    @jorgect127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just learnt to play and tried making a deck with the few cards i had when little, my best deck yet has 23 energies 😅

  • @יותםדותן-ב8כ
    @יותםדותן-ב8כ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just looked at a deck I have, and I saw it does NOT fit in the "12~16 pokemon" rule.
    It has 22, and the only pokemon that aren't there to deal with a semi-popular matchup are either my main source of powering up my main attacker (I'm running an extra 1-1 for consistency), or my actual main attacker.
    Granted, my deck is by no means meant to be a "meta" deck, but still, the deck isn't brick-y, and I usually have what I need at hand whenever I need it, including the right pokemon

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These are general guidelines, and there are plenty of good decks that will break these rules (think quad-thorns or 5 energy in charizard). As long as your deck is consistent and works for you, and you have fun playing it, that's what matters :3

  • @ayanmukherjee5767
    @ayanmukherjee5767 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    shiny cathrine secret channel?

  • @andraslukats6470
    @andraslukats6470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know Where i gone wrong but i have 19 pokemon 5 energy and 6 supporter 👀

  • @JoshuaCChan
    @JoshuaCChan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1st time viewer
    2. you sound like JaidenAnimations
    3. love the cute animations! who does your animations?

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do everything!! Mwhahaha >:)

  • @TheCardKingOfficial
    @TheCardKingOfficial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should I make a video on this???

  • @artbanks27
    @artbanks27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any tips for deck testing?
    Is it better test online or print some proxies

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      online has a testing mode but the ai is absolute trash. I'd say it depends on what you'd prefer. Online lets you quickly throw together a deck and see if it actually works, but both in person and online let's you refine the deck when its in the later stage of testing. In person I feel has a bit of an edge because you don't have to play each game to the end. For example: you know you're going to win but want to test the deck instead of getting ladder points so you have the benefit of an instant reset to test again.
      Both options have merits, it really depends on what you prefer.

  • @crazyAlex-lv7pt
    @crazyAlex-lv7pt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone trying to get back into tcg i have a lot of old cards from 2016 2014 and im just wondering if anyone could tell me if i can still use those cards or not sense i had a quick google and didn't understand much

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any cards that got a reprint are legal. Old copies of tools and cards like super rod all automatically get an errata to match the most recent printing. In general, most cards like Pokemon, tools, stadiums, etc, won't be legal. But evergreen cards like switch, energy search, great ball, ultra ball, basic energies, are all playable since they got a legal reprint.

  • @sniz03
    @sniz03 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DOESNT MATTER ILL DRAW PEAK HAND WITH NO BASIC THEN WATCH IT ALL SHUFLE INTO MY DECK JUST TO BRICK

    • @LatiosAether
      @LatiosAether 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro, you nailed the truth soooo hard. Can relate

  • @nickmoffitt6516
    @nickmoffitt6516 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Disagree with your take on tech cards. Some of the ones you mentioned are essential consistency cards for specific archetypes. I.e. tm evo and pokestop. Otherwise nice video

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fair enough! I think tech cards are a deep enough topic to merit their own video because there's a lot of nuance behind those cards.

  • @angieexistsnow
    @angieexistsnow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my greninja deck only runs 5 energy lol

    • @eonforest4
      @eonforest4  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Running 6 energy is safer just in case one energy is prized. Most decks can most likely operate with only 5 energy, but few can with 4.

    • @angieexistsnow
      @angieexistsnow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eonforest4 i edited the deck list to include 7 after running like 3 games were i lost cuz no energy

  • @VertigoTCG
    @VertigoTCG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you leave zard alone lol

    • @MaroonerForeverr
      @MaroonerForeverr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey off topic but I love your pfp

  • @quentinbarker6767
    @quentinbarker6767 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this sounds sexist and it well is, but i was uninterested in every man talking about the same exact things. The second i open a female youtuber"s video, the vibes are just instantly there. The music the background the script. Chefs kiss.

  • @lukewarmyogurt
    @lukewarmyogurt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    u sound like jaiden animation

  • @lorekeeper685
    @lorekeeper685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice thumpnail 😅

  • @AndrewWarfle
    @AndrewWarfle หลายเดือนก่อน

    Limitless or lose

  • @wanniesup
    @wanniesup หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus loves us all ty