I have that airbrush and honestly it's great. The pressure from its little portable compressor doesn't seem to be as controllable as it should be but for priming, base coating, under-painting etc it definitely does the job. I am not good enough with an airbrush to tell you if it can do small details or not but I would assume that would be it's weakness.
Coconut fiber is good for woodland basing or any general basing honestly. I use a mix that's made for like lizard pet beds. Also be careful with brushes most are meant for watercolor panting on canvas. Be sure to get short handle. Weasel hair is better for like oil so good for like applying inks and glues.
Best cheap brushes I've found are the Rosemary & Co. ones. The Series 33 are exquisite, made from pure Kolinsky Sable and start from under £7 each, but their Series 99 are pure Sable and start under £4. For the less brush friendly jobs, contrast paints, metallics and oils etc, their Red Dots are the best bang for their buck synthetic brushes and super cheap
Top tip, learn your brushes and what media and painting style they're for or you too will try dry brushing your mini' with a hog bristle stippling/stencilling brush.
I got some fake detail brushes from Temu and I’m still using them after getting them half a year ago, they’re really good and useful for how cheap they were
My Mother-in-law got me the brush cleaner and it's awesome. I had to ticket the 'stopper' screw so it wouldn't slowly drain but it's been such a great tool.
I actually live in China and have already bought a bunch of this same gear from Taobao (the equivalent of Amazon here) for dirt cheap 😂 The magnifying headset is great, I have the same one haha
Thanks for this, I am certain they are the same products. Just Amazon sellers have been enjoying slapping huge mark ups on or drop shipping from China.
If your package from TEMU got lost, there's a good chance the shipping label was damaged where the post office couldn't read it. This problem is compounded by the fact that they also don't put any kind of shipping invoice inside the package. I know in the US, if the USPS finds a package with no readable addresses (to or from address), they forward it to a department that will open the box to see if there is anything inside that will tell them either were it was going, or where it came from. If there is, they can label the package and put it back in the mail stream.
The one UV light that's always been consistently good for me rather than the torches (which tend to be of varying brightness) off these discount sites are the UV nail lights with usb adaptors. Had a $10 one that broke after 2 years of service and simply got replaced by a bigger and better one. Super bright, cheap, and perfect for making UV resin casta in oyumaru for basing thanks to the stands.
I have had similar experience on Temu. For terrain bits they have been perfect. I picked up grass tufts in a dozen different colors for $2 a pack. Same thing for UV lights. They were so cheap I bought them just so I could take them apart to build bigger lights with. I was a little worried about the static grass applicator. I built one years ago but wanted a smaller set and theirs fit the bill nicely.
The static grass applicator was very much a shot in the dark. And no idea on how good the more expensive ones are. This one runs off two AA batteries though and I just pop the batteries out when not in use to be safe.
Assuming you have a good local game store, give them your business where you can. Assuming you want the store to stay around. Save online orders for the stuff you can’t get elsewhere, or are insanely discounted. DO NOT buy magnets online. I have never had ones that were as strong as they claimed.
Lots of fair points there, I think for me the biggest issue with my LGS’s is range as in limited. However I do make a point of shopping for the bits that are there when I am in town for exactly this reason. I don’t know if this is true for most folks (I am quite rural) but a hobby trip is at least 3 hours for me and I often can’t get everything. Ref the magnets while they can never support the 2-3 kg they claim they will support the few grams of the arm or base. I also don’t think I could buy magnets locally either but I do not live in a city.
time to time i want to relax from painting miniatures and order a bunch of chinese bootleg gunplas for like 5 to 10 euros each they are amazing for the price and specifically on those older kits like rx-78, zaku variants, GM they are pretty close to the official product highly recomend if u want to paint something way bigger than the average wargaming miniature
I have those exact same nylon brushes. I use them to apply glue or texture paste to the bases and such. :D They're perfect for that, have to throw them out after a set of 30 bases or so anyways.
Yeah I found all my cheap crap brushes get used for stuff like that. For nice brushes paid about £6 a pop for Rosemary and Co Kolinsky brushes and they're great. Rather pay that little bit extra for good brushes. For drybrushing I got a load of cheap makeup brushes and they're usually fantastic.
As a European there isn’t a lot of difference between sharing with China and sharing with the USA both have similar approaches to the use of personal data. However personally I use a vpn and private browsing when online. But absolutely not an expert here.
fake news that only npcs tell people. temu is not more dangerous then facebook, watching por*, making a instagram account etc. if you do any of those you better get to crying about those just as much as temu, cause its the same shit, different book 😂
I got one of the static grass applicators a year or so ago - looks identical to the one you showed. Cost less than 20 quid with 6 bags of (really bad) static grass but works perfectly for my needs which is basing minis and 1/10th scale display models. I strongly recommend this if terrain isn't your main use (with the obvious usual caveats). As an aside, also bought a backpack from Temu for less than £11 which would have cost me £30+, the emergency whistle on the strap doesn't work but don't really need it for the 20 min walk to the shops! Temu does seem better than Wish.
Honestly a lot of the stuff is VERY similar/ identical to that on amazon minus the middle man. No doubt the environmental cost of more plane flights is massive though . cheers for watching and the comment
Weirdly I got a double-tiered dishrack for like £3 from Temu on that intro offer and.. well.. I'm showing my age here but it's absolutely bloody brilliant. Since there was free shipping and money off I also ordered a load of those plastic lego-style shipping containers for use as scenery and they're pretty great too.. although it's hard to screw up a plastic box. One thing I'd look for on there discounted if you don't mind waiting for it is the DSPIAE stuff - absolute top notch hobby tools. I've got the ES-P portable USB-C dremel/router thing and next to my tamiya snips it's the best hobby tool I own. EDIT - Ha just noticed you're using one at @6:40 there! Great aren't they?
Haha, love it, yeh absolutly I am a sucker for kitchen gadgets too and yes, LOVE dspiae tools, check out the sanding pads if you get the chance. cheers for the comment
@@RisingApe nice someone mentioned those sanding pads the other day, will have to check em out. I have a load of their drill bits for using with my basic pin vice and they're really good quality too.
Funny story. I know a British guy who was/is very involved with chinese reprints of warhammer models. Even married a Chinese lady. So a lot of the models aren't "reprints". Back in the early 2000s GW tried to move production to China but fucking failed miserably because they had zero grasp of the immense differences in business practices and culture. Basically acting like big swinging dicks who will sue you ifyou dont fulfill your contractm. But never understood that in China none of that fucking matters. They lost a lot of their money and almost every single mold and master they sent over there. The Chinese started producing mold copies from the original GW molds and masters and producing "recasts" from those. Not making molds from the models. Though that definitely happened too. That's why a lot of the rescasts from China are such good quality, its GW and forgeworld molds with better quality control.
@RisingApe in Australia it's a insane rip off I wouldn't know anyone that would use it it's costly and painfully slow . But all good thanks for the video
I think you’re mostly correct in that unless you were shopping at a very reputable website. I took a few risks with this video and the more expensive ones paid off.
You play a bit the naive one. You get what you pay for. If you find a super low price, you can be sure the quality is up to the price. You can find a ton of good things. If it's imported stuff, the prices are similar to the Western standards. If it's Chinese stuff, well, it depends from the company, like everywhere in the world. By the way, an excellent Korean brand for good quality brushes is Hwahong. Cheaper than Kolinsky and the like.
I am not naiive, but there is plenty of nuance that can’t come across in a video of course. For some items quality really matters, brushes for example and paints for others, at least some of the quality you pay for is packaging. I try to cover higher grade stuff as well on the channel! Thanks for the tip about the brushes I will be sure to look into them.
@@RisingApe Well, you clearly aren't naive, and just by doing such a video, you show it. But the play to buy super cheap stuff and "discovering" that it's bad or almost a scam is playing naivety. Also, with the Chinese market, you have to know about the sellers, and their quality. You find an extreme range of tools, objects and equipment. For example, a lots of epoxy putty brands, for a way cheaper price than the precious and expensive green stuff/Milliput. And most of the basic art tools can be find for a fraction of the price you'll get into an art shop. On the other hand, some products, like good primer spray cans, or Modpodge, are almost impossible to find. And painting models paint brands are not as efficient as a classic Vallejo.
thanks for this, the comment is well explained and that’s appreciated. There is of course an element of marketing involved in the way the videos are packaged. That said I am genuinely interested in the way the hobby market works in other places in the world and would welcome a chat about the Chinese/ Korean hobby scene if you are up for it! My own experience is that most sellers and companies work very hard to be efficient and deliver a good service after all you only buy a scam product once! If you are up for chatting either jump over to my discord or pop me an email!
@@RisingApe I leave in China since a few years now, so I know relatively well the market here, even if it's only for my personal hobby. First, despite the enormous population, this wargame hobby is extremely expensive and it's basically only for university students. I'm not even speaking about the short amount of free time, or the quasi absence of GW stores. On the other hand, the people in the hobby are very well into it, are curious and are searching for various solutions, tricks and material. 3D shops that provide bits for the miniatures or terrain are numerous, for often very cheap prices. For the material, often, the people into the hobby have money, so they are not really interested into cheap stuff. Like for fashion, they want the official stuff. So, basically, every GW product is available and generally bought. On the other hand, clippers, glues, sand and miniature elements like static grass and flocking are often super cheap, and the same quality as the overpriced of the version available in the Western part of the world. You could really search for bits like flowers and everything interesting for the bases, you could find some excellent products.
Dude Temu literally uses knockoffs, loopholes in customs law that don’t apply tariffs on objects under $1,000 and slave labor to make their gear. You shouldn’t accept their money for an endorsement, it’s all blood money.
Hey, this wasn’t a sponsored video, if it was I would have said so. One of the products I bought was a copy (the static grass applicator) but I found the same thing for sale on many other sites too. I did quite a bit of searching for verified sources on labor usage for TEMU before I made this too, if you know of any link them as I would like to take a look. For me it looks like TEMU is made up of lots of small businesses drop shipping globally. Much like Amazon.
All of this stuff is exactly the same as what brands use. The difference is it's lacking the brand stickers and it's sold by the factory direct. There's no way to avoid sweatshops in our modern age unless you buy local which is going to be expensive.
Do not use those wannabe buzzsaw blades on your dremel! That's a great way to cut yourself, and dremel has a specific cutting bit that doesn't have sharp edges.
Good video and solid advice, but something needs to be said about Temu and sites like that. If you can afford not to shop there (no shade because I can't) you should spend your money elsewhere. Those goods are basically all made via slave labor, so it's about the most unethical way to shop. Again, understandable if you can't, but if you can, please avoid it.
This is a very good point and one I actually researched before making the video, I couldn’t find any evidence from Decent sources to back this up though, I even spoke to several Chinese companies and received decent responses from polite helpful people. If you have links I would love to see them as the supply chains over there are something I am interested in.
I don't think supporting temu is a good idear
Idear 😅
@@jyyyb Grammatik
Australia is a Chinese protectorate so he doesn't really have a choice
I have that airbrush and honestly it's great. The pressure from its little portable compressor doesn't seem to be as controllable as it should be but for priming, base coating, under-painting etc it definitely does the job. I am not good enough with an airbrush to tell you if it can do small details or not but I would assume that would be it's weakness.
This one doesn’t have a portable compressor but if it ever arrives I will let you know what it’s like.
have the same 1 works great. if you change the needle to the smaller 1 provided it works for detail too
Great video as always! Besides the brushes and the UV light everything looked great. Can't wait to see a review of the airbrush!
Me too!
Coconut fiber is good for woodland basing or any general basing honestly. I use a mix that's made for like lizard pet beds. Also be careful with brushes most are meant for watercolor panting on canvas. Be sure to get short handle. Weasel hair is better for like oil so good for like applying inks and glues.
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for watching
Best cheap brushes I've found are the Rosemary & Co. ones. The Series 33 are exquisite, made from pure Kolinsky Sable and start from under £7 each, but their Series 99 are pure Sable and start under £4. For the less brush friendly jobs, contrast paints, metallics and oils etc, their Red Dots are the best bang for their buck synthetic brushes and super cheap
I have only heard great things, thanks for the recommendation
Honestly the grass tufts are surprisingly good.
Honestly they are pretty identical, most of the terrain bits are pretty good
you know a bit of white or grey paint and you could possibly do some solid cobwebs with that coconut fiber.
Top tip, learn your brushes and what media and painting style they're for or you too will try dry brushing your mini' with a hog bristle stippling/stencilling brush.
I have a roll out crochet hook pouch 😂😂😂 it’s glorious to roll them out. I also use to use one for my makeup brushes when I did makeup ❤
It’s way too satisfying right!
I got some fake detail brushes from Temu and I’m still using them after getting them half a year ago, they’re really good and useful for how cheap they were
Nice that’s great hear thanks
My Mother-in-law got me the brush cleaner and it's awesome. I had to ticket the 'stopper' screw so it wouldn't slowly drain but it's been such a great tool.
Yeh barring “the incident” I am a surprise fan of it tbh
Hey I recognize that knife, or something similar. I got it at dollar tree for $1.25. even came with six blades!
I actually live in China and have already bought a bunch of this same gear from Taobao (the equivalent of Amazon here) for dirt cheap 😂 The magnifying headset is great, I have the same one haha
Thanks for this, I am certain they are the same products. Just Amazon sellers have been enjoying slapping huge mark ups on or drop shipping from China.
If your package from TEMU got lost, there's a good chance the shipping label was damaged where the post office couldn't read it. This problem is compounded by the fact that they also don't put any kind of shipping invoice inside the package.
I know in the US, if the USPS finds a package with no readable addresses (to or from address), they forward it to a department that will open the box to see if there is anything inside that will tell them either were it was going, or where it came from. If there is, they can label the package and put it back in the mail stream.
Thanks for that, I didn’t know that about the USPS
The one UV light that's always been consistently good for me rather than the torches (which tend to be of varying brightness) off these discount sites are the UV nail lights with usb adaptors.
Had a $10 one that broke after 2 years of service and simply got replaced by a bigger and better one. Super bright, cheap, and perfect for making UV resin casta in oyumaru for basing thanks to the stands.
Thanks for the advice
Try buying dice i bought some for Dungeons and Dragons but I wonder how warhammer dice would be
My wife orders quite frequently from both Temu and Shien without any issues.
Fun video as always, to bas with the gsw tortch as i had mine for 6 years and it still works as new, and back then it was 8 euros
Yeh, I was really gutted, it’s the way it goes though
5:00 have these too. They indeed suck. You can use them for putting on texture paint I guess.
Aye glue brushes for sure
I have had similar experience on Temu. For terrain bits they have been perfect. I picked up grass tufts in a dozen different colors for $2 a pack. Same thing for UV lights. They were so cheap I bought them just so I could take them apart to build bigger lights with. I was a little worried about the static grass applicator. I built one years ago but wanted a smaller set and theirs fit the bill nicely.
The static grass applicator was very much a shot in the dark. And no idea on how good the more expensive ones are. This one runs off two AA batteries though and I just pop the batteries out when not in use to be safe.
Random, question. Do you know what to search for when looking for terrain bits, that aren't just tufts? Like random like plants and bushes etc.
@@Jonkronn Model railroad accessories tends to work for me.
I have the same nylon brushes I got from Amazon and they are pretty good.
Yeh I am usually a big fan.. these ones are awful though
Assuming you have a good local game store, give them your business where you can. Assuming you want the store to stay around. Save online orders for the stuff you can’t get elsewhere, or are insanely discounted.
DO NOT buy magnets online. I have never had ones that were as strong as they claimed.
Lots of fair points there, I think for me the biggest issue with my LGS’s is range as in limited. However I do make a point of shopping for the bits that are there when I am in town for exactly this reason. I don’t know if this is true for most folks (I am quite rural) but a hobby trip is at least 3 hours for me and I often can’t get everything. Ref the magnets while they can never support the 2-3 kg they claim they will support the few grams of the arm or base. I also don’t think I could buy magnets locally either but I do not live in a city.
time to time i want to relax from painting miniatures and order a bunch of chinese bootleg gunplas for like 5 to 10 euros each they are amazing for the price and specifically on those older kits like rx-78, zaku variants, GM they are pretty close to the official product highly recomend if u want to paint something way bigger than the average wargaming miniature
That’s fun, I really like the official mini artifact kits, same size as a mini but Gunpla, fully articulated and under £10
I have those exact same nylon brushes. I use them to apply glue or texture paste to the bases and such. :D They're perfect for that, have to throw them out after a set of 30 bases or so anyways.
Aye good point
Yeah I found all my cheap crap brushes get used for stuff like that. For nice brushes paid about £6 a pop for Rosemary and Co Kolinsky brushes and they're great. Rather pay that little bit extra for good brushes. For drybrushing I got a load of cheap makeup brushes and they're usually fantastic.
Buying on temu is just really really stupid. Its a data privacy disaster.
As a European there isn’t a lot of difference between sharing with China and sharing with the USA both have similar approaches to the use of personal data. However personally I use a vpn and private browsing when online. But absolutely not an expert here.
@@RisingApedid it ever arrive?
fake news that only npcs tell people. temu is not more dangerous then facebook, watching por*, making a instagram account etc. if you do any of those you better get to crying about those just as much as temu, cause its the same shit, different book 😂
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Thanks Mark
Yep, I bought that brush rinser as well.
What did you think? Do you still use it?
That brush rinser is the exact same one that green stuff world sell
Yeh it certainly looks like it
I got one of the static grass applicators a year or so ago - looks identical to the one you showed. Cost less than 20 quid with 6 bags of (really bad) static grass but works perfectly for my needs which is basing minis and 1/10th scale display models. I strongly recommend this if terrain isn't your main use (with the obvious usual caveats). As an aside, also bought a backpack from Temu for less than £11 which would have cost me £30+, the emergency whistle on the strap doesn't work but don't really need it for the 20 min walk to the shops! Temu does seem better than Wish.
Honestly a lot of the stuff is VERY similar/ identical to that on amazon minus the middle man. No doubt the environmental cost of more plane flights is massive though . cheers for watching and the comment
Weirdly I got a double-tiered dishrack for like £3 from Temu on that intro offer and.. well.. I'm showing my age here but it's absolutely bloody brilliant. Since there was free shipping and money off I also ordered a load of those plastic lego-style shipping containers for use as scenery and they're pretty great too.. although it's hard to screw up a plastic box.
One thing I'd look for on there discounted if you don't mind waiting for it is the DSPIAE stuff - absolute top notch hobby tools. I've got the ES-P portable USB-C dremel/router thing and next to my tamiya snips it's the best hobby tool I own.
EDIT - Ha just noticed you're using one at @6:40 there! Great aren't they?
Haha, love it, yeh absolutly I am a sucker for kitchen gadgets too and yes, LOVE dspiae tools, check out the sanding pads if you get the chance. cheers for the comment
@@RisingApe nice someone mentioned those sanding pads the other day, will have to check em out. I have a load of their drill bits for using with my basic pin vice and they're really good quality too.
I have a video on them if you want to see them th-cam.com/video/p_BKgXGuIc4/w-d-xo.html @@sonicwingnut
@@RisingApe Nice! I'll have a look - pretty good videos anyway so I've subscribed to the channel :)
Funny story.
I know a British guy who was/is very involved with chinese reprints of warhammer models. Even married a Chinese lady.
So a lot of the models aren't "reprints". Back in the early 2000s GW tried to move production to China but fucking failed miserably because they had zero grasp of the immense differences in business practices and culture. Basically acting like big swinging dicks who will sue you ifyou dont fulfill your contractm. But never understood that in China none of that fucking matters. They lost a lot of their money and almost every single mold and master they sent over there.
The Chinese started producing mold copies from the original GW molds and masters and producing "recasts" from those. Not making molds from the models. Though that definitely happened too.
That's why a lot of the rescasts from China are such good quality, its GW and forgeworld molds with better quality control.
the next day ? amazon is a 3 week wait minimum , ali express is about the same ish
It does depend what you order and where you are, round me, prime is next day
@RisingApe in Australia it's a insane rip off I wouldn't know anyone that would use it it's costly and painfully slow . But all good thanks for the video
My cautions about buying stuff online from either "cheap" or "discounts" its never spend more than 5$
I think you’re mostly correct in that unless you were shopping at a very reputable website. I took a few risks with this video and the more expensive ones paid off.
let me know when you get the Copyright Strike on this one. I'm Sure Mikey would love to cover it when you do...
Haha! Will do
why limit the purchases to "gear"?
Indeed
Sub'd and Bell'd!
Thanks very much!
Thanks.
You're welcome
You play a bit the naive one. You get what you pay for. If you find a super low price, you can be sure the quality is up to the price.
You can find a ton of good things. If it's imported stuff, the prices are similar to the Western standards. If it's Chinese stuff, well, it depends from the company, like everywhere in the world.
By the way, an excellent Korean brand for good quality brushes is Hwahong. Cheaper than Kolinsky and the like.
I am not naiive, but there is plenty of nuance that can’t come across in a video of course. For some items quality really matters, brushes for example and paints for others, at least some of the quality you pay for is packaging. I try to cover higher grade stuff as well on the channel! Thanks for the tip about the brushes I will be sure to look into them.
@@RisingApe Well, you clearly aren't naive, and just by doing such a video, you show it. But the play to buy super cheap stuff and "discovering" that it's bad or almost a scam is playing naivety.
Also, with the Chinese market, you have to know about the sellers, and their quality. You find an extreme range of tools, objects and equipment. For example, a lots of epoxy putty brands, for a way cheaper price than the precious and expensive green stuff/Milliput. And most of the basic art tools can be find for a fraction of the price you'll get into an art shop.
On the other hand, some products, like good primer spray cans, or Modpodge, are almost impossible to find. And painting models paint brands are not as efficient as a classic Vallejo.
thanks for this, the comment is well explained and that’s appreciated. There is of course an element of marketing involved in the way the videos are packaged. That said I am genuinely interested in the way the hobby market works in other places in the world and would welcome a chat about the Chinese/ Korean hobby scene if you are up for it! My own experience is that most sellers and companies work very hard to be efficient and deliver a good service after all you only buy a scam product once! If you are up for chatting either jump over to my discord or pop me an email!
@@RisingApe I leave in China since a few years now, so I know relatively well the market here, even if it's only for my personal hobby.
First, despite the enormous population, this wargame hobby is extremely expensive and it's basically only for university students. I'm not even speaking about the short amount of free time, or the quasi absence of GW stores.
On the other hand, the people in the hobby are very well into it, are curious and are searching for various solutions, tricks and material.
3D shops that provide bits for the miniatures or terrain are numerous, for often very cheap prices.
For the material, often, the people into the hobby have money, so they are not really interested into cheap stuff. Like for fashion, they want the official stuff. So, basically, every GW product is available and generally bought. On the other hand, clippers, glues, sand and miniature elements like static grass and flocking are often super cheap, and the same quality as the overpriced of the version available in the Western part of the world. You could really search for bits like flowers and everything interesting for the bases, you could find some excellent products.
40k dice requirements laughs at your wicked little dice tray
Haha, yeh that’s fair, I mainly play dnd and battletech so 2D6 for everything! Maybe I need a dice shelf
I only buy official products. I'd rather support the real companies.
Why not both, I support big brands and small, they just have different use cases. Thanks for the comment
Lets be real temu is just a scam. Many people have had credit cards deets stolen im sorry but uf the price is pretty much piss cheap its not
They do Paypal just FYI adds a layer of protection. I only buy online with Paypal, never use your credit or debit card.
Dude Temu literally uses knockoffs, loopholes in customs law that don’t apply tariffs on objects under $1,000 and slave labor to make their gear. You shouldn’t accept their money for an endorsement, it’s all blood money.
Hey, this wasn’t a sponsored video, if it was I would have said so. One of the products I bought was a copy (the static grass applicator) but I found the same thing for sale on many other sites too. I did quite a bit of searching for verified sources on labor usage for TEMU before I made this too, if you know of any link them as I would like to take a look. For me it looks like TEMU is made up of lots of small businesses drop shipping globally. Much like Amazon.
Less sound effects. No tik tok preteens are watching this. Lol. Otherwise great job
Thanks
Wow. Supporting sweatshops...great job dude
All of this stuff is exactly the same as what brands use.
The difference is it's lacking the brand stickers and it's sold by the factory direct. There's no way to avoid sweatshops in our modern age unless you buy local which is going to be expensive.
No its not
It’s not as good as Lego but it does work
Do not use those wannabe buzzsaw blades on your dremel! That's a great way to cut yourself, and dremel has a specific cutting bit that doesn't have sharp edges.
Good video and solid advice, but something needs to be said about Temu and sites like that. If you can afford not to shop there (no shade because I can't) you should spend your money elsewhere. Those goods are basically all made via slave labor, so it's about the most unethical way to shop. Again, understandable if you can't, but if you can, please avoid it.
This is a very good point and one I actually researched before making the video, I couldn’t find any evidence from
Decent sources to back this up though, I even spoke to several Chinese companies and received decent responses from polite helpful people. If you have links I would love to see them as the supply chains over there are something I am interested in.
50/50 if you get what you see on the pictures for sale my experience STAY AWAY TEMU IS A CON.