I have had the first generation Goose Box on my fifth wheel for five years now and I love the way it frees up the bed too. We have towed our fifth wheel coast to coast and Toronto to Forida and Cabo San Lucas and the Goose Box has performed wonderfully. Initially we had problems with the pressure release valve letting the air out but I removed it and installed a plug and now I just check the bag pressure regularly. I have air in my truck so it is easy to do. I bought a set of those telescoping foam balls with a magnet on the bottom. I set one in the truck bed and one on the Goose Box, adjust the height so the two balls are at the same elevation. Back up with the balls aligned and once you know where to put the magnets you can hook up by yourself. I have done it several times although it is easier having my wife stand to the side and guide me back because I am lazy and don't have to get out of the truck a couple of times to verify position. I always cross the safety chains as that will help support the front of the trailer if it ever did come off the ball. For those of you who may be worrying about bed height, you can purchase balls with different shoulder heights if you need a little more clearance. Good video - thanks for sharing.
I have the same setup. I painted a white line from the back of my truck strait up to the ball. This gives me a nice runway line to get exactly under the ball. Doing this also keeps my wife safe as she does not need to guide me back at all.
Dang THANK YOU. You the only one who's title was true to the content lol. I watched 4 long A$$ videos of people saying they have a gooseneck connection but didn't show it. Thanks to you this is the setup i want. Saving your vid to my favorites to show the dealer💪
Thats why they call them accidents, nothing is intentional.. I never let my wife stand between the truck and trailer. Set up some guides to help line it up
I had an employee get crushed while guiding a coworker back like you were. Accidents happen, whatever time you think you are saving it’s not worth it. Be safe.
Drew .Boldt Thanks for the awareness, that is an awful accident. We are sure to be safe, and certainly did not intend to make light of precautions to take. To repeat your words, please be safe, everyone. Safe travels!
The cable has that hold piece so you don’t have to hold it the whole time. Meant for one person to hookup and disconnect. Latch the cable, lift it up. Also pretty sure it’ll auto latch if the cable is released
I have been towing goose neck trailers since the 1970s! I have developed a simple, inexpensive method of aligning ball and hitch. I use a 48" bungee cord with a half inch mark in the middle corresponding with the location of the ball. I use black electrical tape! There are marks on each side of the bed showing where to hook the cord so that that middle mark is directly over the ball when the cord is hooked both sides. I have a mark on the hitch, with black tape, that when the mark on the cord touches that mark the hitch is centered over the ball. Can be seen in the rear view mirror. I am sure the system could be adapted to the Goosebox setup.
I've heard people paint an + on the pinbox. The vertical line matches with a line on reverse camera and the horizontal line lines up with a toolbox in the bed
Get you a pick up magnet it has a red or bright orange handle and stick it on your ball , big difference and you can extend the handle up or down the high level you can see best .You can also put a orange tape strip on your pin to line up the magnet handle up as you back up .
For sure, steve! Thanks for letting us know you found it helpful. Feel free to give us a shout with any questions as you go through that process! Safe travels 👍
I feel compelled to comment on your comment about being careful to not get caught between the trailer and the truck while guiding the driver. I was a Safety Officer for the US Third Army in Kuwait. The year I was there I had to initiate Formal Safety investigations for TWO fatal accidents where an individual was crushed between a truck and a trailer that he was hooking up. NEVER NEVER NEVER get between a vehicle that is backing up and a solid object! The margin for error is simply too small, and the time to escape is less than your reaction time. And for that matter, never get between a vehicle going forward and a solid object. Same rules apply. You can guide from the side.
Good video! As for the camera, I recommend Haloview wireless. When I bought ours, I got an extra one when I ordered the rear observation camera for our 5th wheel. I used JB Weld to fasten 2 strong magnets to the mounting bracket so it could be placed in different locations. A camera system is mandatory with the Reese Goosebox especially if you don't have a helper.
I'm looking into getting one of these for our towing our 5th wheel. My only concern is once its installed I won't have enough bed clearance with the 5th wheel front cap. we have a 2012 Cedar Creek 5th wheel and the tow vehicle is a 2019 Ford F250 Lariat diesel truck. If you could speak to the clearance issue that would be great. Thanks and great video
Hey Mike, thanks for the question. As far as specifics go, I can only speak from the experience of my set up. With a 1” rise B&w ball I have 6-7” clearance to the sides of the bed, and an 8ft bed gives no issue from the front of the cap to the rear windows. On level ground we can get close to 90 degrees. I have nicked the coating on one side of bed on a very tight, unlevel situation. Again, that’s my set up… a few more details of the equipment are covered here narrowroadjourneys.com/goosey-goosey-gander/ Safe travels!
Great video. Do you think this setup would work with Ram Boxes? I have a 2019 Ram 3500 mega cab with Ram boxes and I want to switch to the same setup you have. Let me know what you think. Thanks
Hey Mark, thanks for the question. I’m certainly no expert, so check with more sources after my answer… I would venture to guess the Ram boxes might decrease your turning radius. One one particular sharp turn on uneven terrain, I did nick the coating on the side of the bed. Nothing big, just a minor scar. The Ram boxes appear to decrease the width quite a bit. With my set up, the trailer is pretty level with just enough clearance for sharp turns, not sure if you could raise the ball height higher to gain clearance over the boxes? Again - talk to as many sources as you can before making the purchase!! If it works, you’ll love the goosebox 👍
You can line any trailer up side to side by centering the sides of it with your mirrors, then just worry about distance. It’s much better than putting someone between the tow rig and the trailer. It’s not hard to get used to either.
Thanks, Sean! We’ve refined our techniques since the video for safety - like anything the more you do something, the more efficient you become 👍 Safe travels!
Just an fyi about gooseneck systems, Lippert Components, who manufacture most 5th wheel trailer frames, do not warranty their frames with gooseneck systems.
Thanks for the concern, and that may be the case, however I double checked before ordering ours, and from what I found at that time told me otherwise. I knew to check, not risking a void of warranty scenario, and felt safe with the decision... I haven’t had a need to check in two years, so maybe things have changed?
Thanks for the video bud!! 👍🏼👍🏼 I have one question, what does it measure from the center of the gooseneck ball to the front your Reese goose box? I ask because I have a welding machine towards the front of my truck bed and wandering how much clearance I will have.
Cantu Customs - yeah, you bet! If I catch your drift right, the link below may help. I will be hooking the trailer up tomorrow, so if the below link doesn’t help, I can go out and measure for you. Let me know if this helps! www.etrailer.com/question-221871.html
Thanks for the review! Also, please do NOT stand in the pinch point between the truck and trailer. This is a common workplace safety item that most construction workers look out for each other all the time- one accident and you will be raising those kids from a wheelchair.. not worth it. As a recommendation or replacement for standing in between- Get yourself one of those fluorescent magnetic poles and place it directly in front of the gooseneck ball. Look at your rearview mirror and guide yourself right to the ball. I place mine just far enough in front of the ball that when the hitch hits it I am under the spot. It will take a few times to get it right but soon you will be able to do that by yourself and no one gets in the pinch point. If you would rather get a camera for aligning yourself remember one thing- the camera is probably cheaper rthan your deductable.
Thanks Mark. Yes, that is how the truck came, with the OEM puck system. My Ram is a 2018, not sure what year they started including those. Safe travels!
GREAT VIDEO NO DOGS CATS OR WEIRD MUSIC AHH HA HA 🙃never had a fith wheel. 1 question to you or anyone that wants to answer/ respond... how is it turning while driving down the road, pulling into gas stations etc? is it ok making tight turns feel like it might come close to the bed of the truck or back Window. might be a dumb question... i have a 350 SRW short box. LOVE that it opens up the bed. any info would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Tim - thanks for the comment. As this is my first experience with a 5th wheel as well, the only comparison to a traditional kingpin is observational. As far as turning, I have pushed it to around an 80 degree turn with a bit of room to spare....on mostly level ground. With my bed, I have enough room for a toolbox or spare fuel tank w/o an issue. A short bed would make it difficult to feel super comfortable with a box mounted in back, but could still perform the tight turns. I may make another video that captures that with the similar questions I’ve received. For now, the goosebox Facebook group is loaded with the types of answers. Hope that helps! Happy travels!
painting lines on a hitch is the best option been hooking goose necks up for 10 years and never needed someone in a pinch point. get up on out of the seat you dont have a tool box not sure how you cant see that from the cab
I just purchased a 2020 Ram 2500 after pulling my 5th wheel for the last 6 years with a 2500 Chevy. Both trucks have the 6' bed. I was using a Curt Q20, slider 5th wheel hitch with the Chevy. The Chevy used "rails" and did not have the "puck" system like my new truck. In order to use the current Curt I have to purchase the adapter from Curt that has rails that mount in the puck system then put my Q20 on the rails. Or I scrap the Curt and purchase the Goosebox and go the way you did. My question is this, because my Ram is somewhat taller than the Chevy do you think there will be a clearance problem with my bed? I purchased the slider at the suggestion of the dealer, but never had to use it. Do you think I will have similar clearance with my Ram and not have to worry about a slider? Thanks for your great video!!
Hey Pat, thanks for the inquiry. My gut says you will be just fine with the goosebox connected to a B&W hitch ball (at least extra inch rise) with your Ram. However, I don’t even want to pretend to be an expert on this subject. I’d suggest posting this same question to the Reese Goosebox Facebook group. I have seen many questions like this come along. If you can make it happen, you’re sure to be pleased by the goosebox. Safe travels!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 ordered the GB first of the week from a hitch dealer my RV place recommended locally. Interesting findings after checking around with many others including Reese i found the following; - Reese quit all manufacturing since the Covid thing kicked in, hence their warehouse is empty of the GB's. - There are apparently 3 major RV warehouses that handle them. My GB is coming from California and the price was ok. However I did find in my search if they came from Texas they were $300.00 plus more. Have no idea why, can't be the shipping since Cali is further then Texas from my south Kansas City Missouri location. - Tried to order one from Transwest who is only 10 minutes from my home and their price was the Texas price. I asked them to order from the warehouse in Cali and they said they could not......... Moral of my story, shop around especially when it comes to RV accessories. Thanks again for your help!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 Wells shopping around was an understatement. The hitch dealer said they could get them, come to find out they had no idea when they could. Apparently Reese is back into manufacturing (at least that is what the hitch dealer told me) and will be shipping soon. Can't wait have a trip scheduled and need it now. I had a backup however the cost was a little more. Finally got it with the shims and installed just waiting on the B&W ball. Do have a question though how long are your safety chains? I need to fab some to make me legal then I will be set. Thanks again for your video.
Pat - glad to here that finally settled down. This is the link to the chains I ended up with - good quality. Safe travels! Fulton 49150 Safety Chain Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B00IALW0VS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Pb0lFbV93XEKP
I had the same thought, it's not the best thing to stand in the "pinch point" you guys should find another way to spot that. Of course nobody ever plans to have an accident. Maybe look into a camera that goes up by your third brake light. I pretty much guess and get out and adjust when I get back in. I'm probably going to get a camera.
You can go to Walmart and pick up a cheap back up camera, and with some creative thinking, mount it to the side of the bed, check out big truck big rv. He did it to his truck to help hooking up his goose neck . Hope this helps everyone.
Have you seen any issues with the front of the rig, paint chipping or cracking. I keep seeing other videos where they say this issue will happen swapping to a gooseneck hitch. But have yet to see someone post a video of damage... safe travels.
Good question - we took delivery of our rig fall of 2019, had the dealer swap out the hitch before we towed it out. Have towed all over since then without that ever coming up for us. Safe travels right back at ya!
Update: I ordered my 20K goose box on April 4th, 2022 and received it on April 16, 2022. I installed it myself at the lowest level possible to create the maximum distance between the top of my bed rail and the camper cap. Guess what, not enough clearance. Had to spent another $300.00 and purchase the taller B&W goose ball. Next issue. filling the air bag. my hitch doesn't have the air valve system that the hitch in the video has. No extension and no air valve connected to the release cable holder. the "new" air valve is under the hitch which means you have to hitch the camper to your truck, then get on your back upside down to fill the hitch and you actually need someone else there to tell you when the air bag is right. I called and talked with Reese tech support and they told me that the other air valve assembly, with the extension like the video shows, was on back order so they used this little air valve under the hitch, then he said they were having issues with the air bag leaking with the old air fill valve assembly like in the video so they used this new one. So I asked which is it, backorder issues or air leak issues. He said air leak issues. So it took me about 20 minutes to climb under the hitch and fill it and it only took about 10 minutes for the air to leak out. At this time, I'm not a big fan of this setup. Wonder why I can't get any assistance addressing these issues? any help would be appreciated
Man - sorry to hear about the struggles. I can only speak in regards to our experience as I am by no means an expert. I knew from the get go the B&W would be needed. When we took delivery of our rig, I asked the dealer to swap out the hitches before driving it off the lot - I know I scored some luck as it all worked as desired from the first ride. As far as the air valve… it is a bit awkward even with our set up…however I rarely have to fill. This experience, along with what I mentioned in the video, is why I made the video. Just pleased and wanted to share - no obligation to Reese in any way. There are several other Reese forums including Facebook where I’ve seen issues receiving quality helpful suggestions. Maybe give that a whirl? Best of luck and safe travels when you get rolling!
Just my $0.02… I always connect chains and break away cable as far forward as possible, this minimizes the time to kick in so they save your ass from rear end whiplash.
Fair thought, just like other hitches, to line it up, the hitch has to be fairly close to the ball/pin, so avoiding an accident with the tailgate there!
Thanks for the question, and yes, no issues. On level ground I get about 6-7” clearance. Only once with a real tight turn on pretty unlevel did I nick the sidewall - cosmetic. Safe travels 👍
I don't see the advantage. How is bedrail clearance. Do you have to have a short bed to make it worth it. I can and do hitch by myself every time by looking in my rearview mirror. If you need bed space should have brought a long bed or bigger trailer. I have crew cab long bed 4x4 and 35ft trailer hitched to Reese 20k. Thanks
Yes, that is a long bed. Which provides great room for when we put watercraft, bikes, go car camping, you name it. Then there is the ride it provides, much smoother. Glad you’re happy with what you’ve got. Safe travels
Hey there! Thanks for the question. I go into a few more details in the blog article: narrowroadjourneys.com/goosey-goosey-gander/. B&W gooseneck ball 2 5/16” with 1” rise - comes as a kit. The chains themselves I purchased on Amazon, sorry I don’t have the link for that. Hope that helps! Safe travels 👍
Ok I have the same set up, I turn my goose ball so the handle is facing the tailgate then I attached my safety brake to the handle of the goose ball. I also extended my safety chains so I can make 95 degree turn without any issues. And when disconnected just pull the cable and latch it on the reese holder so it becomes a one person job. 👍
My opinion regarding the trailer emergency brake cable is attaching it to the truck, not the hitch using a tie down hook which is mounted to the truck box. I also had problems with the brake cable pulling the pin out on tight turns. I got a longer cable.
I'm considering a 5w for the first time and I think you've sold me on the Goose box! I really like the ease of clearing the bed when not towing. How long have you had it and have you experience any problems?
Earl Fields - I’m glad you found the video helpful! We had the goosebox installed at the dealer prior to taking delivery. I ordered on trailer.com, had delivered to my residence, and drove it to the dealer when I went to take delivery. This was Mid-September ‘19 - Indy to Tucson to Anacortes,WA and back to Indy since then. Not one single issue. It’s the way to go.
I’m a new RVer with the Reese goose box hitch, I’m having to let the air out of the hitch every time I unhook. Is there a secret to this I’m missing? I did notice in your video you hold the latch back instead of keeping it in the holder.
Hey, thanks for the question. We were brand new RVers as well and started out with this system, so in the same boat as you... learn as you go. The latch needs to be fully open, or drawn back as you saw me doing. You can also adjust the stop on the cord so when it is placed in the holder, it is fully open for you. I’d check technique there first as I have never had to let air out to unhitch. I like to keep my air around 40 PSI while traveling. Hope this helps, let me know what you uncover. Safe travels!
I’ve seen folks comfortably use an offset ball to utilize the goosebox. I’d recommend checking out the Reese Goosebox Facebook group for some more detailed advice. Safe travels!
What length is your bed? I have a 2016 f250 with the 6 foot bed with a gooseball already installed. Looking to get a fifth wheel down the road and don’t want to have a fifth wheel hitch. Have you noticed any limits with what angle you can turn? Thanks for the help!
Mark Walthall - thanks for reaching out! It’s a full sized bed, 8ft. Can turn nearly to 90 - it’s sweet. I’ve read 6ft beds can have the same experience - check out the goosebox Facebook page - tons of helpful posts on that issue! Travel safe!
Bob Stewart - shoot! So sorry to hear about your misfortune. Thanks for letting people know. Your experience could help a bunch of folks searching on forums as I’ve seen many questions regarding use with short beds.
Yea - if you read the text at that time in the video, I made the comment that I had realized the stop needed to be adjusted in order to work as you describe. Good catch for others who might be wondering. Thanks
Thanks for the question - we have a grand design solitude 3740BH (see our other video tour of the rig). And nope, no clearance issues at all with the 1” rise in the B&W set up described. Let me know if any other questions pop up- safe travels!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 I am a little confused. I have a 2020 F350 with a 6.5ft bed. I measure 36" to the back window from the center of my puck. So, if I rotate with a 101" Grand Design, shouldn't that mean that well before 90 degrees, I would contact the rear cab at 50.5" width of the camper?
@@cmcavoy100 - that might be the confusion - we have an 8 foot bed. Where the puck system is located, the angles approaching 90 degrees are possible. I would guess I have not pushed passed 80. You can get an offset ball to accomplish higher degrees of turn angles with a short bed. Did this help?
@@cmcavoy100 - yeah I should have included some video of us pulling and turning. Maybe a future one. If you have Facebook, check out the Goosebox page, some great info from folks with all types of set ups - ask some questions there to help with any division making
Hey, Anthony, thanks for reaching out! And, no, it’s not a silly question. The king pin that is installed upon manufacturing varies widely. Most likely it is a Lippert component. You will need to make sure it fits the components you will be owning. ETrailer.com is where I ended up purchasing my goosebox, and they were very helpful online and with phone calls to help me check and double check this would be a smooth switch out on our Solitude. Thanks for the question and good luck on your quest!
I’ve seen a few folks do it with an offset ball and a short bed. If you have a tool/fuel box at the front of the bed, I’d imagine it’d be a no go. If your on Facebook, there’s a goosebox page with a lot of regular activity. I bet you’d get even more answers there. Safe travels!
Jack De Vos - yes, I do, and yes it is messy. You don’t need much, but it is a little evil necessity. I always have a few paper towels around when removing the ball after parking. There is a grease fitting to load grease in with a gun into the coupler, but I choose to manually wipe grease on prior to hooking up. Just a personal preference. Thanks for the question, and happy, safe travels!
I understand your confidence in each other but that is where your safety ends… if the driver were to have a stroke or heart attack or even an un-commanded foot or arm jerk great harm can occur. If you become pinned at the very least you won’t be able to reach the driver to administer help, first-aid or call 911. There are just too many things that can go wrong. Mechanical failure of something is another concern. Rule to live safely by is NEVER go between or behind a tow vehicle. Same for trailers and fifth wheels. A sudden throttle and engine overspeed, a transmission jump can all have unpredicted results, even for a safety conscious professional driver.
I kind of agree 😉. However, I appreciate any genuine concern behind any of the other comments. Safety first, especially with loved ones! Safe travels, ya’ll!
I have had the first generation Goose Box on my fifth wheel for five years now and I love the way it frees up the bed too. We have towed our fifth wheel coast to coast and Toronto to Forida and Cabo San Lucas and the Goose Box has performed wonderfully. Initially we had problems with the pressure release valve letting the air out but I removed it and installed a plug and now I just check the bag pressure regularly. I have air in my truck so it is easy to do.
I bought a set of those telescoping foam balls with a magnet on the bottom. I set one in the truck bed and one on the Goose Box, adjust the height so the two balls are at the same elevation. Back up with the balls aligned and once you know where to put the magnets you can hook up by yourself. I have done it several times although it is easier having my wife stand to the side and guide me back because I am lazy and don't have to get out of the truck a couple of times to verify position.
I always cross the safety chains as that will help support the front of the trailer if it ever did come off the ball.
For those of you who may be worrying about bed height, you can purchase balls with different shoulder heights if you need a little more clearance.
Good video - thanks for sharing.
Lauren Hansman - thanks so much for sharing your experience and great tips! Safe travels!
I have the same setup. I painted a white line from the back of my truck strait up to the ball. This gives me a nice runway line to get exactly under the ball. Doing this also keeps my wife safe as she does not need to guide me back at all.
Nice! Thanks, Gary 👍 Safe travels!
I took some white duck tape and placed it from the ball to the back of the truck so I have a runway to follow to line it up
Dang THANK YOU. You the only one who's title was true to the content lol. I watched 4 long A$$ videos of people saying they have a gooseneck connection but didn't show it. Thanks to you this is the setup i want. Saving your vid to my favorites to show the dealer💪
Right on - glad you found it helpful! Safe travels and enjoy your journey!
Thats why they call them accidents, nothing is intentional.. I never let my wife stand between the truck and trailer. Set up some guides to help line it up
Tom - thanks for the suggestion!
I had an employee get crushed while guiding a coworker back like you were. Accidents happen, whatever time you think you are saving it’s not worth it. Be safe.
Drew .Boldt Thanks for the awareness, that is an awful accident. We are sure to be safe, and certainly did not intend to make light of precautions to take. To repeat your words, please be safe, everyone. Safe travels!
The cable has that hold piece so you don’t have to hold it the whole time. Meant for one person to hookup and disconnect. Latch the cable, lift it up. Also pretty sure it’ll auto latch if the cable is released
Yeah, thanks! Figured out that the stop was very arbitrarily placed - just needed to loosen, move and re-tighten - thanks and safe travels!
I have been towing goose neck trailers since the 1970s! I have developed a simple, inexpensive method of aligning ball and hitch. I use a 48" bungee cord with a half inch mark in the middle corresponding with the location of the ball. I use black electrical tape! There are marks on each side of the bed showing where to hook the cord so that that middle mark is directly over the ball when the cord is hooked both sides. I have a mark on the hitch, with black tape, that when the mark on the cord touches that mark the hitch is centered over the ball. Can be seen in the rear view mirror. I am sure the system could be adapted to the Goosebox setup.
Right on! That’s great. Thanks, for the inexpensive suggestion, Ron!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 You are most welcome! Been using the method for years.
I've heard people paint an + on the pinbox. The vertical line matches with a line on reverse camera and the horizontal line lines up with a toolbox in the bed
Nice! Like it. Thanks for the suggestion
Get you a pick up magnet it has a red or bright orange handle and stick it on your ball , big difference and you can extend the handle up or down the high level you can see best .You can also put a orange tape strip on your pin to line up the magnet handle up as you back up .
Thanks for the suggestion- that’ll help others too 👍. Enjoy your journey!
Thank you for that demo! I can see what I'm going to purchase when I get my 5th wheel toyhauler! That looks so great!
For sure, steve! Thanks for letting us know you found it helpful. Feel free to give us a shout with any questions as you go through that process! Safe travels 👍
I feel compelled to comment on your comment about being careful to not get caught between the trailer and the truck while guiding the driver. I was a Safety Officer for the US Third Army in Kuwait. The year I was there I had to initiate Formal Safety investigations for TWO fatal accidents where an individual was crushed between a truck and a trailer that he was hooking up. NEVER NEVER NEVER get between a vehicle that is backing up and a solid object! The margin for error is simply too small, and the time to escape is less than your reaction time. And for that matter, never get between a vehicle going forward and a solid object. Same rules apply. You can guide from the side.
Right on, Bill - thanks for your service, sir. We appreciate you!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 You're Welcome! And Thank You!
Good video! As for the camera, I recommend Haloview wireless. When I bought ours, I got an extra one when I ordered the rear observation camera for our 5th wheel. I used JB Weld to fasten 2 strong magnets to the mounting bracket so it could be placed in different locations. A camera system is mandatory with the Reese Goosebox especially if you don't have a helper.
Great suggestion! Thanks! Safe travels!
I'm looking into getting one of these for our towing our 5th wheel. My only concern is once its installed I won't have enough bed clearance with the 5th wheel front cap. we have a 2012 Cedar Creek 5th wheel and the tow vehicle is a 2019 Ford F250 Lariat diesel truck. If you could speak to the clearance issue that would be great. Thanks and great video
Hey Mike, thanks for the question. As far as specifics go, I can only speak from the experience of my set up. With a 1” rise B&w ball I have 6-7” clearance to the sides of the bed, and an 8ft bed gives no issue from the front of the cap to the rear windows. On level ground we can get close to 90 degrees. I have nicked the coating on one side of bed on a very tight, unlevel situation. Again, that’s my set up… a few more details of the equipment are covered here
narrowroadjourneys.com/goosey-goosey-gander/
Safe travels!
Great job! 5 min long is perfect!
Thanks - hopefully it was helpful! Enjoy your journey!
Great video. Do you think this setup would work with Ram Boxes? I have a 2019 Ram 3500 mega cab with Ram boxes and I want to switch to the same setup you have. Let me know what you think. Thanks
Hey Mark, thanks for the question. I’m certainly no expert, so check with more sources after my answer… I would venture to guess the Ram boxes might decrease your turning radius. One one particular sharp turn on uneven terrain, I did nick the coating on the side of the bed. Nothing big, just a minor scar. The Ram boxes appear to decrease the width quite a bit. With my set up, the trailer is pretty level with just enough clearance for sharp turns, not sure if you could raise the ball height higher to gain clearance over the boxes? Again - talk to as many sources as you can before making the purchase!! If it works, you’ll love the goosebox 👍
You can line any trailer up side to side by centering the sides of it with your mirrors, then just worry about distance. It’s much better than putting someone between the tow rig and the trailer. It’s not hard to get used to either.
Thanks, Sean! We’ve refined our techniques since the video for safety - like anything the more you do something, the more efficient you become 👍 Safe travels!
Thanks for the video. I have an ‘18 Ram 3500 DRW with the factory air like you. Very helpful seeing the same set up as what I have.
Thanks for the nice feedback! Safe travels!
Just an fyi about gooseneck systems, Lippert Components, who manufacture most 5th wheel trailer frames, do not warranty their frames with gooseneck systems.
Reese might be the only they recognize.
Thanks for the concern, and that may be the case, however I double checked before ordering ours, and from what I found at that time told me otherwise. I knew to check, not risking a void of warranty scenario, and felt safe with the decision... I haven’t had a need to check in two years, so maybe things have changed?
Lipert is the one that manufactures the Reese goose box and it is branded under the Reese name. As such it does not void your Lipert frame warranty.
Thanks for the video bud!! 👍🏼👍🏼 I have one question, what does it measure from the center of the gooseneck ball to the front your Reese goose box? I ask because I have a welding machine towards the front of my truck bed and wandering how much clearance I will have.
Cantu Customs - yeah, you bet! If I catch your drift right, the link below may help. I will be hooking the trailer up tomorrow, so if the below link doesn’t help, I can go out and measure for you. Let me know if this helps!
www.etrailer.com/question-221871.html
NarrowRoadJourneys oh man thanks, that really helped and answered my questions 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the review! Also, please do NOT stand in the pinch point between the truck and trailer. This is a common workplace safety item that most construction workers look out for each other all the time- one accident and you will be raising those kids from a wheelchair.. not worth it. As a recommendation or replacement for standing in between- Get yourself one of those fluorescent magnetic poles and place it directly in front of the gooseneck ball. Look at your rearview mirror and guide yourself right to the ball. I place mine just far enough in front of the ball that when the hitch hits it I am under the spot. It will take a few times to get it right but soon you will be able to do that by yourself and no one gets in the pinch point. If you would rather get a camera for aligning yourself remember one thing- the camera is probably cheaper rthan your deductable.
Thanks for the great suggestions, Andy 👍
@@narrowroadjourneys438 th-cam.com/video/Dn2DP5kaG0M/w-d-xo.html
I don’t care how safe you both are. Never stand behind the truck will hoking up!
Thanks for the concern, Gene - we’ve got our safer routine down now since posting the video 👍. Safe travels!
Very helpful. We just brought our fifth wheel home. I elected to use the Reese goose box. I was curious about airing up the air bag. Thank you
Absolutely, so nice to hear this helped someone - feel free to shoot us any other questions or thoughts along the way. Safe travels!
Can you make a 90 degree turn. I saw that 1 person couldn’t, but he did have 3” bed cover rails hanging over the inside of the bed
On level ground…pretty darn close! Haven’t needed to, nor wanted to, test it beyond about 80. Hope that helps - Enjoy your journey!
Great review. Thanks. Did your truck come set up for a fiver system from the factory or did you get it installed after market?
Thanks Mark. Yes, that is how the truck came, with the OEM puck system. My Ram is a 2018, not sure what year they started including those. Safe travels!
Our 2015 Ram 1 ton dually came with the puck system and we love it .
Your husband is smart . . . not wanting to be left alone with a 3 and 6 year-old! Hilarious!
GREAT VIDEO NO DOGS CATS OR WEIRD MUSIC AHH HA HA 🙃never had a fith wheel. 1 question to you or anyone that wants to answer/ respond... how is it turning while driving down the road, pulling into gas stations etc? is it ok making tight turns feel like it might come close to the bed of the truck or back Window. might be a dumb question... i have a 350 SRW short box. LOVE that it opens up the bed. any info would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Tim - thanks for the comment. As this is my first experience with a 5th wheel as well, the only comparison to a traditional kingpin is observational. As far as turning, I have pushed it to around an 80 degree turn with a bit of room to spare....on mostly level ground. With my bed, I have enough room for a toolbox or spare fuel tank w/o an issue. A short bed would make it difficult to feel super comfortable with a box mounted in back, but could still perform the tight turns. I may make another video that captures that with the similar questions I’ve received. For now, the goosebox Facebook group is loaded with the types of answers. Hope that helps! Happy travels!
painting lines on a hitch is the best option been hooking goose necks up for 10 years and never needed someone in a pinch point. get up on out of the seat you dont have a tool box not sure how you cant see that from the cab
Thanks drew!
I just purchased a 2020 Ram 2500 after pulling my 5th wheel for the last 6 years with a 2500 Chevy. Both trucks have the 6' bed. I was using a Curt Q20, slider 5th wheel hitch with the Chevy. The Chevy used "rails" and did not have the "puck" system like my new truck. In order to use the current Curt I have to purchase the adapter from Curt that has rails that mount in the puck system then put my Q20 on the rails. Or I scrap the Curt and purchase the Goosebox and go the way you did.
My question is this, because my Ram is somewhat taller than the Chevy do you think there will be a clearance problem with my bed?
I purchased the slider at the suggestion of the dealer, but never had to use it. Do you think I will have similar clearance with my Ram and not have to worry about a slider?
Thanks for your great video!!
Hey Pat, thanks for the inquiry. My gut says you will be just fine with the goosebox connected to a B&W hitch ball (at least extra inch rise) with your Ram. However, I don’t even want to pretend to be an expert on this subject. I’d suggest posting this same question to the Reese Goosebox Facebook group. I have seen many questions like this come along. If you can make it happen, you’re sure to be pleased by the goosebox. Safe travels!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 ordered the GB first of the week from a hitch dealer my RV place recommended locally.
Interesting findings after checking around with many others including Reese i found the following;
- Reese quit all manufacturing since the Covid thing kicked in, hence their warehouse is empty of the GB's.
- There are apparently 3 major RV warehouses that handle them. My GB is coming from California and the price was ok. However I did find in my search if they came from Texas they were $300.00 plus more. Have no idea why, can't be the shipping since Cali is further then Texas from my south Kansas City Missouri location.
- Tried to order one from Transwest who is only 10 minutes from my home and their price was the Texas price. I asked them to order from the warehouse in Cali and they said they could not.........
Moral of my story, shop around especially when it comes to RV accessories.
Thanks again for your help!
Pat - shop around is right!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 Wells shopping around was an understatement. The hitch dealer said they could get them, come to find out they had no idea when they could. Apparently Reese is back into manufacturing (at least that is what the hitch dealer told me) and will be shipping soon. Can't wait have a trip scheduled and need it now. I had a backup however the cost was a little more. Finally got it with the shims and installed just waiting on the B&W ball.
Do have a question though how long are your safety chains? I need to fab some to make me legal then I will be set.
Thanks again for your video.
Pat - glad to here that finally settled down. This is the link to the chains I ended up with - good quality. Safe travels!
Fulton 49150 Safety Chain Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B00IALW0VS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Pb0lFbV93XEKP
Excellent explanation, thank you
Great! Glad it was useful - thanks for the feedback!
She’s super cute!!!!😍
I had the same thought, it's not the best thing to stand in the "pinch point" you guys should find another way to spot that. Of course nobody ever plans to have an accident.
Maybe look into a camera that goes up by your third brake light.
I pretty much guess and get out and adjust when I get back in.
I'm probably going to get a camera.
Johnf Comeau - thanks for the suggestion! A camera would be the best option for sure. Safe travels!
You can go to Walmart and pick up a cheap back up camera, and with some creative thinking, mount it to the side of the bed, check out big truck big rv. He did it to his truck to help hooking up his goose neck . Hope this helps everyone.
Mike Plante - Nice! Thanks for the suggestion 👍
Have you seen any issues with the front of the rig, paint chipping or cracking. I keep seeing other videos where they say this issue will happen swapping to a gooseneck hitch. But have yet to see someone post a video of damage... safe travels.
Good question - we took delivery of our rig fall of 2019, had the dealer swap out the hitch before we towed it out. Have towed all over since then without that ever coming up for us. Safe travels right back at ya!
I towed a work trailer for 3 decades that was a gooseneck. It's not that hard to line up. Like anything ,just practice
Yep - getting better every time!
Update: I ordered my 20K goose box on April 4th, 2022 and received it on April 16, 2022. I installed it myself at the lowest level possible to create the maximum distance between the top of my bed rail and the camper cap. Guess what, not enough clearance. Had to spent another $300.00 and purchase the taller B&W goose ball. Next issue. filling the air bag. my hitch doesn't have the air valve system that the hitch in the video has. No extension and no air valve connected to the release cable holder. the "new" air valve is under the hitch which means you have to hitch the camper to your truck, then get on your back upside down to fill the hitch and you actually need someone else there to tell you when the air bag is right. I called and talked with Reese tech support and they told me that the other air valve assembly, with the extension like the video shows, was on back order so they used this little air valve under the hitch, then he said they were having issues with the air bag leaking with the old air fill valve assembly like in the video so they used this new one. So I asked which is it, backorder issues or air leak issues. He said air leak issues. So it took me about 20 minutes to climb under the hitch and fill it and it only took about 10 minutes for the air to leak out. At this time, I'm not a big fan of this setup. Wonder why I can't get any assistance addressing these issues? any help would be appreciated
Man - sorry to hear about the struggles. I can only speak in regards to our experience as I am by no means an expert. I knew from the get go the B&W would be needed. When we took delivery of our rig, I asked the dealer to swap out the hitches before driving it off the lot - I know I scored some luck as it all worked as desired from the first ride. As far as the air valve… it is a bit awkward even with our set up…however I rarely have to fill. This experience, along with what I mentioned in the video, is why I made the video. Just pleased and wanted to share - no obligation to Reese in any way. There are several other Reese forums including Facebook where I’ve seen issues receiving quality helpful suggestions. Maybe give that a whirl? Best of luck and safe travels when you get rolling!
Just my $0.02… I always connect chains and break away cable as far forward as possible, this minimizes the time to kick in so they save your ass from rear end whiplash.
Thanks for the suggestion, Tim 👍
Forgot to mention, it’s a single wheel not a dually.
Question???, WHY can't you close the tailgate as he is backing in.
Getting it out of the way, and giving the spotter more room.
Fair thought, just like other hitches, to line it up, the hitch has to be fairly close to the ball/pin, so avoiding an accident with the tailgate there!
For 3500 Ram extended cab how is the clearance when turning with gooseneck? Does it clear the truck bed?
Thanks for the question, and yes, no issues. On level ground I get about 6-7” clearance. Only once with a real tight turn on pretty unlevel did I nick the sidewall - cosmetic. Safe travels 👍
Safety chains should always be crossed when towing. This is a DOT regulation.
Great info - thank you!
Fuck dot and fuck fmcsa.
I don't see the advantage. How is bedrail clearance. Do you have to have a short bed to make it worth it. I can and do hitch by myself every time by looking in my rearview mirror. If you need bed space should have brought a long bed or bigger trailer. I have crew cab long bed 4x4 and 35ft trailer hitched to Reese 20k. Thanks
Yes, that is a long bed. Which provides great room for when we put watercraft, bikes, go car camping, you name it. Then there is the ride it provides, much smoother. Glad you’re happy with what you’ve got. Safe travels
What kit are you using for the ball and hooks in the bed of you truck?
Hey there! Thanks for the question. I go into a few more details in the blog article: narrowroadjourneys.com/goosey-goosey-gander/. B&W gooseneck ball 2 5/16” with 1” rise - comes as a kit. The chains themselves I purchased on Amazon, sorry I don’t have the link for that. Hope that helps! Safe travels 👍
Question why did you spin the ball around? Is it not secure with the handle to the rear?
Thanks for the question - I don’t believe the handle forward or rear facing makes a difference. That’s just an odd habit I have is all! Safe travels!
Ok I have the same set up, I turn my goose ball so the handle is facing the tailgate then I attached my safety brake to the handle of the goose ball. I also extended my safety chains so I can make 95 degree turn without any issues. And when disconnected just pull the cable and latch it on the reese holder so it becomes a one person job. 👍
Visiting Places - nice! I like it. Thanks for the comment!
My opinion regarding the trailer emergency brake cable is attaching it to the truck, not the hitch using a tie down hook which is mounted to the truck box. I also had problems with the brake cable pulling the pin out on tight turns. I got a longer cable.
@@46fd04 works both ways didn't want to get another cable, it works fine for almost 1 year of towing around the u.s.
Thank you for the very informative video.
Scoganz - absolutely! So happy to hear it helped in some way. Let us know if you have any other questions. Safe travels!
I'm considering a 5w for the first time and I think you've sold me on the Goose box! I really like the ease of clearing the bed when not towing. How long have you had it and have you experience any problems?
Earl Fields - I’m glad you found the video helpful! We had the goosebox installed at the dealer prior to taking delivery. I ordered on trailer.com, had delivered to my residence, and drove it to the dealer when I went to take delivery. This was Mid-September ‘19 - Indy to Tucson to Anacortes,WA and back to Indy since then. Not one single issue. It’s the way to go.
Nice
Great review
Northern Glampers - thanks for the props!
Thank you
You bet, Jared! Safe travels!
I’m a new RVer with the Reese goose box hitch, I’m having to let the air out of the hitch every time I unhook. Is there a secret to this I’m missing? I did notice in your video you hold the latch back instead of keeping it in the holder.
Hey, thanks for the question. We were brand new RVers as well and started out with this system, so in the same boat as you... learn as you go. The latch needs to be fully open, or drawn back as you saw me doing. You can also adjust the stop on the cord so when it is placed in the holder, it is fully open for you. I’d check technique there first as I have never had to let air out to unhitch. I like to keep my air around 40 PSI while traveling. Hope this helps, let me know what you uncover. Safe travels!
How is the turning radius with your set up? Can you get to 90?
Thanks for the question… I’d say the closest I’ve had to push it was nearing 80… Totally pleased with that. Enjoy your journey 👍
Can this hitch be used on standard / short bed trucks? I currently use a sliding 5th wheel hitch because I don't
have a long bed.
I’ve seen folks comfortably use an offset ball to utilize the goosebox. I’d recommend checking out the Reese Goosebox Facebook group for some more detailed advice. Safe travels!
Use a Andersen ranch hand hitch for short bed.
What length is your bed? I have a 2016 f250 with the 6 foot bed with a gooseball already installed. Looking to get a fifth wheel down the road and don’t want to have a fifth wheel hitch. Have you noticed any limits with what angle you can turn? Thanks for the help!
Mark Walthall - thanks for reaching out! It’s a full sized bed, 8ft. Can turn nearly to 90 - it’s sweet. I’ve read 6ft beds can have the same experience - check out the goosebox Facebook page - tons of helpful posts on that issue! Travel safe!
Hey Matt I have a 19 f350 short bed and I pinched the cab and caused 4500 damage to the cab with this goosebox !! Best angle is 70 degrees !!
Bob Stewart - shoot! So sorry to hear about your misfortune. Thanks for letting people know. Your experience could help a bunch of folks searching on forums as I’ve seen many questions regarding use with short beds.
Guess he didn’t realize the release cable holder has a place to lock the cable tab behind the notch in the cable holder for unhooking?😉
Yea - if you read the text at that time in the video, I made the comment that I had realized the stop needed to be adjusted in order to work as you describe. Good catch for others who might be wondering. Thanks
@@narrowroadjourneys438 Not meant as any criticism, just something I noticed having the same hitch myself. “Happy trails.” 😉
Do you see or feel it’s damaging your front RV frame? Thanks
Anthony - thanks for the question. I absolutely do not - the solitude is still looking and feeling great after 1.5 years of using the goosebox.
What 5th wheel are you using? Do you have clearance problems while turning?
Thanks for the question - we have a grand design solitude 3740BH (see our other video tour of the rig). And nope, no clearance issues at all with the 1” rise in the B&W set up described. Let me know if any other questions pop up- safe travels!
@@narrowroadjourneys438 I am a little confused. I have a 2020 F350 with a 6.5ft bed. I measure 36" to the back window from the center of my puck. So, if I rotate with a 101" Grand Design, shouldn't that mean that well before 90 degrees, I would contact the rear cab at 50.5" width of the camper?
@@cmcavoy100 - that might be the confusion - we have an 8 foot bed. Where the puck system is located, the angles approaching 90 degrees are possible. I would guess I have not pushed passed 80. You can get an offset ball to accomplish higher degrees of turn angles with a short bed. Did this help?
@@narrowroadjourneys438 I could get an 4 inch offset ball. I'll have to see what 40" will get me
@@cmcavoy100 - yeah I should have included some video of us pulling and turning. Maybe a future one. If you have Facebook, check out the Goosebox page, some great info from folks with all types of set ups - ask some questions there to help with any division making
What was your measured pressure when the lever was half way through the center of the eye/circle?
(i.e. Airbag PSI)
Right around 35-40 psi. I like the ride with it right about 40 for us
@@narrowroadjourneys438
Thank you for the quick response!
I'm going to try 40lbs next time as I think 50lbs was too much Air Pressure.
I am looking into purchasing a 5th wheel RV (1st one)....can this goosebox be installed on any 5th wheel? I apologize if this is a silly question
Hey, Anthony, thanks for reaching out! And, no, it’s not a silly question. The king pin that is installed upon manufacturing varies widely. Most likely it is a Lippert component. You will need to make sure it fits the components you will be owning. ETrailer.com is where I ended up purchasing my goosebox, and they were very helpful online and with phone calls to help me check and double check this would be a smooth switch out on our Solitude. Thanks for the question and good luck on your quest!
Does anyone know if this thing works with short beds boxes and if the radius is good so I don’t bust out the back window why I’m turning
I’ve seen a few folks do it with an offset ball and a short bed. If you have a tool/fuel box at the front of the bed, I’d imagine it’d be a no go. If your on Facebook, there’s a goosebox page with a lot of regular activity. I bet you’d get even more answers there. Safe travels!
Do you grease the ball? I have been but it gets so messy.
Jack De Vos - yes, I do, and yes it is messy. You don’t need much, but it is a little evil necessity. I always have a few paper towels around when removing the ball after parking. There is a grease fitting to load grease in with a gun into the coupler, but I choose to manually wipe grease on prior to hooking up. Just a personal preference. Thanks for the question, and happy, safe travels!
I understand your confidence in each other but that is where your safety ends… if the driver were to have a stroke or heart attack or even an un-commanded foot or arm jerk great harm can occur. If you become pinned at the very least you won’t be able to reach the driver to administer help, first-aid or call 911.
There are just too many things that can go wrong. Mechanical failure of something is another concern.
Rule to live safely by is NEVER go between or behind a tow vehicle. Same for trailers and fifth wheels.
A sudden throttle and engine overspeed, a transmission jump can all have unpredicted results, even for a safety conscious professional driver.
Thanks for the genuine concern! Safe travels 👍
Valtteri Bottas is that u??😂
You are supposed to cross your safety chains.
If someone got crushed the driver was a total idiot. Going that slow and using hand signals only idiots would get injured. Period
I kind of agree 😉. However, I appreciate any genuine concern behind any of the other comments. Safety first, especially with loved ones! Safe travels, ya’ll!
Accidents can happen
Too bad you weren't driving a real truck also
Stop doing that! Please!!! That's not going to end well!!!
Thanks, Josh - we have found “safer” means of hooking up since making the video. Appreciate the concern 👍