After being captured and sent to Blackgate, the Joker meets Harley. They then have an interview that explores Joker's mind. Or at least, what is left of it.
@@Juleeeeeeeee Wow wow I didn't realize that until I read your comment. Maybe it's because English isn't my main language and I was more focused in the Joker's imagination than the subtitles. Thanks a lot xD
Nope apparently Harleen was too lonely even after being so hot looking, therefore, she related herself and couldn't get out of the positive transference hence, she is not a good therapist or psychiatrist, and was a bad choice from the list of doctors treating Arthur (joker).
That's why he hates all the Robins so much, and anyone else whom Batman may consider a friend/partner. Hell, even Batman's other foes are considered unworthy. For the Joker, the only two that matter is him and Batman. They're on this ride together, a fall if you will, and are trapped in a mindset so far from "sanity" that no could possibly be on the same level of comprehension as they are.
John Beaird Actually, since Joker is mentally ill, putting him behind bars would be cruel. As a person battling mental illness, I can tell you. It sucks ass when you have no control over yourself. When you're just a muse to a nameless anger than they call "mental illness." I'm not violent...I don't have anything as bad as the joker. But one day, I could explode. People like us don't have any way to vent once we have a label. People's view of the mentally ill is much more frightening than the reality. In reality, Joker is more so the victim. Something messed him up, and it wasn't his fault. He just wasn't strong enough to fight off whatever hurt him, so he was forced to cave in. It sucks to be the victim in a bad guy costume. Trust me.
The Joker They aren't bestfriends, Joker needs Batman to put a stop to his chaos because he knows if there was no batman to stop the criminals all criminals would be the same, amd batman just hates joker but refuses to kill, joker hates batman, so much he wants him dead but he's insane so he won't kill him because as I said he needs him
@@grazielaalmeida8438 I don't have many friends either. In fact, I can think of maybe only two or three people I text regularly and see them in real life quite infrequently. I've accepted long ago that I do feel actual loneliness at some points but it's almost a kind of existential loneliness where I just let that be, because what else can I do? I am so used to the feeling that it almost seems normal, and for me I would scoff at the idea some person who I've met for the first time suddenly wants to give me a pep talk about seeing something uniquely special in me and how we're meant to be. I am too cynical for that. My loneliness can't be fixed by another person. There is no be all and end all as a solution.
Lol, i hate that line. No one who looks like her “doesn’t have a lot of friends” -or more accurately: i hate when writers try to make the hot girl gettable by pretending social awkwardness trumps beauty ( _c.f. New Girl_ )
@@doctaflo she has low self-esteem issues and probably other mental issues, due to trauma from her past in her childhood and teenage years. No matter how attractive you are, if you aren't socially desirable people will reject you and only approach you because of your looks, which can probably just result in sexual harassment and abuse instead of actually having friends
@@joseluis5055 i mean, yeah, you’re right, the super-rare tragic hottie with her backstory might have those issues, but I stand by my critique of the trope, less because of its level of fidelity to real-world psychodynamics and more because i find it hacky and a little insulting
+SuperYoshikong in the recent comics shes in a relationship with ivy and in batman the animate series they were paired together in a lot of episodes and implied to be really really close friends
Mo Bhuiyan He makes conection, because they are antipodes. You see, they are both CrAzY, but joker is funny, not serious, kills people, and pretty much evil. Batman is all the way around. They are more look alike than you think.
ImmaChiaotzu1 I personally prefer Harley and Joker as a more Bonnie and Clyde couple than an abusive one. A movie with a better script could have made it better though. The Joker Blogs gives a great version of Mad Love though.
Joker wasn't manipulating anyone, he was talking about himself and his relationship with batman. Harleen just thought he was talking about her, that in addition to her own tremendous loneliness was all Joker needed to "manipulate" her.
I like how you say in the same sentence that he both manipulated and didn’t manipulate her. Which is it, bud? He obviously manipulated her in this scene, he was intentionally keeping it vague to dodge answering her questions and take advantage of her. Don’t be so naive.
This is incredibly brilliant. This perfectly establishes the love triangle between Harley , Joker, and Batman. Joker gives affection to Batman while Haley wishes it was for her
why people actually see that as a romantic atraction or some shit, Joker sees Batman as a brother, a naive brother who is on his level and still as crazy as him, like Cain and Abel
@@doncomedia7927 lmao a brother? No way someone that looks at someone as a brother calls them darling, handsome, grabs his groin, smacks his ass, gets jealous over other people getting his attention, all the sexual innuendos, the "only you" in his poem, the poem itself that he sung to Batman, the comics; Harley sees it with Joker, Catwoman sees it Joker, Gordan sees it with Batman, Robin sees it both of them, Superman sees it with Batman, you get it by now. And that being said yes they have this bond in which they look at eachother as friends, but there's the romantic aspect as well, so it's not completely platonic.
If I didn't know that was Troy Baker, I would have thought it was Mark Hamill. Very convincing. Also, anyone notice how quickly Harley's voice changes?
There are some great quotes from this clip coming from Joker: "And then you meet someone who changes your life - And you feel that you don’t even know who you are any more. Isn’t it funny how one little encounter can CLEAVE off little pieces of your past, DEFORM your memories and persona until you rethink your whole identity - and as you realize how foolish it all is - your LAUGHTER reverberates off the wall of your own emptiness." Awesomely well said in my opinion. Saving it for Great Quotes of the DCU.
That's the point lmao. She fell in love with him while he was saying all of that, and when she practically went side by side with him, he never really cared what happened to her. Hence why Joker NEVER actually tried to kill the Batman.
Never forget his final words. "Bruce No! I need you..." - Batman Arkham Knight Joker's biggest fear is him losing Batman and Batman forgetting about him.
Well, at least his fears will never come true (in this universe) even though he’s locked up in Bruce’s head, he’ll never truly leave him. As for forgetting? Not a chance. The joker may be dead and the last remnant of him locked away, but the memories and trauma of everything will never leave Bruce. When we see Arkham Batman again in the comics he’s a broken depressed man after nightfall, absolutely distraught that the joker has come back to life.
I agree. The Arkham games understood the Joker and Harley infinitely better than in Suicide Squad. They aren't supposed to actually be in love, or have the audience talking about "hashtag relationships"... -_- Joker gets Harley hopelessly infatuated with him, and he just uses her for plans, not as a companion or friend.
@@thepillowhead2453 he is barely crazy. Crazy people aren't very aware of their world around them and consequences. Joker is fully aware of morality and the world around him, in real life he doesn't qualify as "insane"
I can't believe people didn't like this game or even said it was the worst in the series this cutscene let alone made it up to par possibly even beyond arkham city and asylum
***** That was obvious though, the joker was the main focus of asylum and city if he wasn't the main focus in the prequel so many people will questioning why he was so important in asylum and city origins showed you why
I think part of the problem is that AOrigins was a victim of the Arkhamverse series own success, with the critical success of AAsylum and ACity hopes and expectations were so high that when it came out there was always going to be more harsh critisism than impartiality (which wasnt helped by the bugs or certain gameplay style choices). Lets be fair though it is still an amazing game that achieves a great deal and has some truely outstanding moments (like this one) but it was under pressure to live up to a lot of hype and therefore any stumbles get blown into sharper focus. So yes it might be the most harshly critiqued and lowest scored game in the series but that does not mean it is a bad game, it could have been far worse. However Rocksteady seem to have used the opportunity well, listened to all the praise and critisim and adapted their new work accordingly. Arkham Knight looks like something really spectacular that should at least heal some wounds AOrigins created, however unintentionally.
im planning on getting this eventually regardless of reviews. I have played plenty of games that got bad reviews and i loved them. UGH just look at crap like Call of Duty. Gets 9's and 10's and hasent done crap new since the first MW. Im glad Ghost has gotten some negative reviews, Its about time.
In my opinion, Origins was the worst in the series! Not bad by any means, but the one I, personally, had the least fun playing. I liked it! Especially the new enemy archetypes. But it felt too much like Arkham City... Again, IT'S NOT BAD! It was just not good enough to be any higher on my list! I do have one major gripe with it and that's the bugs in the PC version! Besides that...it was ok! :)
i really do feel sorry for harley. she's an emotional wreck with no sense of self and has been manipulated by this evil dude and will stand by him, even if it means dying by his hand, because she feels as if being with joker is the closest thing to love she has ever felt.
theXtreme1man The difference here is that Joker is an insane killer who dresses like a clown and only does crimes for the joy of it, The funny (No pun intended) part of it is, Batman made him this way (In the Arkham universe) As you can see the joker use to actually do crimes for a reason, Impersonating Black Mask, Getting money from the bank, Etc. But his only purpose now is to make batman snap, Kill somebody, Or even become insane himself, Batman made joker more insane than he already is, And Joker did the same thing to Harley.
VideoGameFools and the thing is, its a cycle of misinterpreted love. joker was deprived of love and when he met batman, he began to love him because thats what he thought a loving relationship was or felt like. same with harley.
John Eusebio Make him laugh! Make him laugh, don't you know everyone wants to laugh hah hah... I couldn't help myself referencing singing in the rain :P
I honestly feel bad for the joker. He is incredibly sick and he can't help it. He can't change who he is now and batman knows this yet repeatedly tries to keep him in check hoping that somehow he will get better, but that will never happen. The saddest thing is that batman created the joker.
The death penalty is usually always wrong. However, their is a very small amount of humans. That their very existence is evil and needs to be put down. Sadly the Joker is one of these, batman should kill him. All Joker will every do is cause harm to others.
I spend half my teenage years trying to pick up girls, nothing works. A psychopath uses smart words and a story, picks up a hottie in less than 7 minutes.
The poor girl thinks she's talking about him when referring to the one who "understands", but there's only one person that TRULY interests Joker... and that person's not in a lab coat.
hmahmo She said " a quick psychiatric evaluation" and they were the same clothes and it's the same location before and after the "flashbacks". So yeah, I think he just talked to her five minutes and she 's already onboard. That's sloppy writing if you ask me.
Hah, caught that the second time around; was distracted the first time I watched this. I still think it's a pretty decent symbolic summary of "The Killing Joke" though.
I love the fact they tie in "The Killing Joke" into this game. For those who don't know, "The Killing Joke" is considered one of the top Batman/Joker stories, and not only inspired Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight", but also inspired Tim Burton's "Batman."
I was thinking that too. I wonder why they would have changed it to Blackgate Prison seeing as the Joker's insane and Blackgate's houses the non-insane criminals.
Nightman221k Technically they do meet each other in the Arkham Asylum. Since this game is taking place in Batmans early career, Blackgate hadn't changed name to Arkham yet. But it is the same place. If I recall correctly..
This scene displays the relationship between all three characters PERFECTLY. Joker is truly obsessed with batman; he doesn't understand him and unlike anyone he has ever met before, he actually FEARS him--more so than death...much more. However, he devotes that obsession towards a weak-minded, impressionable Harleen. In my humble opinion, "Harley" is THE most tortured out of any of Joker's victims. She believes that the Joker is her one true love, but she will ultimately lead a torturous life because he will always show her enough "love" to keep her hanging on... only to brutally smash her heart through deception, verbal and physical abuse.
I love the slight ring noise you can hear when Harleen says that cops always beat on the sick and defenseless. It symbolizes the exact moment Joker realizes he can manipulate her.
A lot of these comments are how Harley failed to see what Joker was really talking about, others are talking about Joker's past. I'm just really amazed that Joker has his own fight and his own style. He wasn't a playable character aside from this part of the story right? I mean, Batman is the only playable character aside from this scene in Origins.
Arkham Origins: You of all people should know, there's nothing so CRUEL as MEMORY. Arkham City: Nice of you to say, but you of all people should know, there's plenty wrong with me.
What i got from this conversation is that Joker is just playing ultimate "notice me senpai!" With Batman. Maybe that's why he's crazy because senpai never notices.
He's not gay for him, he has never been able to relate to anyone except him. Batman is the ONLY person in the world who understands him on a way. Joker just wants to be understood by someone and Harley thinks she understands him, she really tries but she just doesn't understand him like Batman does but she does care about him the same way that Joker cares about Batman in his twisted way
@@liamrutland4025 agreed more like "love" is a deep obsession. what i don't really get is why?. Batman is only doing his job an it's obvious that he doesn't sees joker the way joker sees him. so what makes him so especial?
@@dissolve00 the fact that he saved his life after Joker spent all night to kill him, he's obsessed because he feels that Batman in his own violent way cares for him
Troy Baker... Perfect. I can't say he's better than Mark Hamil because he's basically just doing Mark Hamil's version of the voice, but even that takes talent.
Only you... can make this world seem right. Only you... can make the darkness bright. Only you and you alone... Can thrill me like you do... And fill my heart with love for only you. Only you... can make this change in me. For it's true, you are my destiny. When you hold my hand I understand... the magic that you do You're my dream come true. My one and only you... Only you... can make this change in me. For it's true... you are my destiny. When you hold my hand I understand... the magic that you do You're my dream come true... My one and only you...
Not quite. The simple fact is.. Guano man is very special to me. Without him, I wouldn't have anything fun to do!.. There would be no purpose to my life, Batsy gives me that purpose.
Batman fascinates the Joker, and gives his life a new purpose. He thinks they have a unique "understanding" of one another, that no other criminal gets. Batman obviously doesn't share that assessment, and hates him - has even come close to killing him more than once, because obviously the Joker has filled entire graveyards with people, and is pretty much beyond any redemption. Lots of Joker stories, deal with him trying to push Batman's limits, just to see what he will do. He is the chaos to Batman's order. In one recent storyline he sets out to kill Batman's closest allies, simply because he thinks they are holding him back. The Batman-Joker relationship is awesome, and legendary. Quite possibly the best conflict in all of comic books.
the visuals and dialogue in thsi summarize the joker to PERFECTION. it summarizes what will probably be the closest look into his mind we have ever had
Adam Duffield No, I thought that Rossini wrote music specifically for Kubrick's movie 150 years in advance. I also thought that a soundtrack of a movie always needs to have contemporary music in it, because otherwise it couldn't possibly be a soundtrack. Sarcasm aside, I have the soundtrack from the movie and that includes music that was composed for it by Walter Carlos but never included in the movie. The electronic versions of classical pieces by Walter/Wendy Carlos WERE made for "A Clockwork Orange". Carlos had a lot of previous experience with that. Kubrick kinda beats Tarantino in the way he uses a song used for another movie into his own. In this case Gene Kelly's "Singing in the Rain" from the movie with the same name, predating "A Clockwork Orange" by almost 20 years. So yes, "Singing in the Rain" is in the A Clockwork Orange soundtrack too, despite having been made when Burgess hadn't even written his novel. Finally, this scene here is a nice homage to A Clockwork Orange, as it takes place next to a stage and has the Joker violently beating up a lot of people.
It was also used in Sherlock. Moriarty was actually dancing to it while stealing the Crown Jewells from the Tower :'D So is it a coincidence that this music gets connected to villains this much?
There's something I'm confused on. As both 3 games are good games but... If this all happened the comics how does this all tie in together with the killing joke comic? It has been confirmed that Batman kills the joker at the end of the comic and it ends but then we have story from Arkam City were the joker does from weakness. This doesn't make any sense and I thought Batman doesn't kill. Can some one please explain.
Juan Carlos Delgado Batman doesn't kill the Joker at the end of Killing Joke. All that happens in the end is the Joker telling Bats a joke, which Bats surprisingly starts laughing at. The final scene then shows Bats grabbing the laughing Joker and that's where it ends. Assumingly, the Joker is then taken to jail/asylum.
That was surprisingly deep. Well, a little more than I expected, which is to say very. And, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I didn't even think about the lack of Mark Hamill till a good solid minute after the video was over.
Whatever Joker is capable of, I now see him as something akin to sad. Batman may do the things he does all stemming from the notion of some kind of revenge but Joker's actions just seem to scream out that he's someone and not just another faceless person among the crowd. Relate to that if you want but in the end, that's what Joker is most afraid of: being forgotten. To that I say, suck it up buttercup.
Desmond Istari In the animated series Harleen Quinzel met The Joker in Arkham Asylum, because she was his psychiatrist! Not in Blackgate... annoys me -_-
Joseph McCluskey This is not Rockstar, this game was developed by WB. And Arkham is closed in this game, mad people and gangsters, they all go to Blackgate here.
The funny part is that joker was right when he said all it takes is one very bad day thats unique to someone for them to lose themselves and their humanity
I just had a thought. at 5:18 the joker was looking at a reflection of himself and he saw himself as a bat, just like what he saw with batman. this may sound a bit farfetched, but what if that is what he thinks he looks like and if that is one of the reasons why he says that he and batman are not so different? just a thought
I love how the joker and harley are having two completely different conversations
***** Lmao
Kakakakak he talk about batman, and she "oww, he love me"
Yes. That was kind of the point of this scene... demonstrating their values.
It's like that when an Aries & a Libra get together
Especially when the Libra is off his meds
Or on the sauce
@@Juleeeeeeeee Wow wow I didn't realize that until I read your comment. Maybe it's because English isn't my main language and I was more focused in the Joker's imagination than the subtitles. Thanks a lot xD
Jeezus the Jokers so smooth he can pick up women unintentionally when talking about Batman
I know right? lol
Find yourself someone who talks about you the way Joker talks about Batman ;')
Scott Trek you read my mind.
MetyRyuma THIS^^^ THIS IS IS BEAUTIFUL, I LOVE THIS COMMENT PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE A MEME
Nope apparently Harleen was too lonely even after being so hot looking, therefore, she related herself and couldn't get out of the positive transference hence, she is not a good therapist or psychiatrist, and was a bad choice from the list of doctors treating Arthur (joker).
Joker is so romantic when it comes to Batman
haha!! yeah i kinda feel sorry for harley but oh well XD
know! We know its ending bad for Harls but...he is so kind and sweet when he wants to
The joker is a criminal just like the rest of them. That "bleeding" heart of his deserves to be behind bars.
That's why he hates all the Robins so much, and anyone else whom Batman may consider a friend/partner. Hell, even Batman's other foes are considered unworthy. For the Joker, the only two that matter is him and Batman. They're on this ride together, a fall if you will, and are trapped in a mindset so far from "sanity" that no could possibly be on the same level of comprehension as they are.
John Beaird Actually, since Joker is mentally ill, putting him behind bars would be cruel. As a person battling mental illness, I can tell you. It sucks ass when you have no control over yourself. When you're just a muse to a nameless anger than they call "mental illness."
I'm not violent...I don't have anything as bad as the joker. But one day, I could explode. People like us don't have any way to vent once we have a label. People's view of the mentally ill is much more frightening than the reality.
In reality, Joker is more so the victim. Something messed him up, and it wasn't his fault. He just wasn't strong enough to fight off whatever hurt him, so he was forced to cave in.
It sucks to be the victim in a bad guy costume. Trust me.
Oh... I feel so bad that she thought he was talking about her but he was really talking about Batsy.
He should have really loved her sorry mr j
I just feel bad i played this piece of shit...
Riley Kaye I know! It's cause these writers were geniuses!
Riley Kaye I think it was a great insight to the love-hate relationship J and Bats share. They're worst enemies... Yet best friends.
The Joker They aren't bestfriends, Joker needs Batman to put a stop to his chaos because he knows if there was no batman to stop the criminals all criminals would be the same, amd batman just hates joker but refuses to kill, joker hates batman, so much he wants him dead but he's insane so he won't kill him because as I said he needs him
You could hear the innocence in her voice when she said "I don't have a lot of friends." It's sad, really.
I don't have a lot of friends and it's not sad, really.
@@grazielaalmeida8438 I don't have many friends either. In fact, I can think of maybe only two or three people I text regularly and see them in real life quite infrequently. I've accepted long ago that I do feel actual loneliness at some points but it's almost a kind of existential loneliness where I just let that be, because what else can I do? I am so used to the feeling that it almost seems normal, and for me I would scoff at the idea some person who I've met for the first time suddenly wants to give me a pep talk about seeing something uniquely special in me and how we're meant to be. I am too cynical for that. My loneliness can't be fixed by another person. There is no be all and end all as a solution.
Lol, i hate that line. No one who looks like her “doesn’t have a lot of friends” -or more accurately: i hate when writers try to make the hot girl gettable by pretending social awkwardness trumps beauty ( _c.f. New Girl_ )
@@doctaflo she has low self-esteem issues and probably other mental issues, due to trauma from her past in her childhood and teenage years. No matter how attractive you are, if you aren't socially desirable people will reject you and only approach you because of your looks, which can probably just result in sexual harassment and abuse instead of actually having friends
@@joseluis5055 i mean, yeah, you’re right, the super-rare tragic hottie with her backstory might have those issues, but I stand by my critique of the trope, less because of its level of fidelity to real-world psychodynamics and more because i find it hacky and a little insulting
That moment when Joker picks girls better than you.
And then doesn't even give a shit about them. Like hellooooo joker if you don't want her I do
Reaper Yeah it sucks but Harley Quinn is a better girl than me I'm sure.
Isaiah Quidilla Don't say stuff like that.Everyone is unique in their own way Joker is the perfect example
+ZoLexa I don't think Harley is bi
+SuperYoshikong in the recent comics shes in a relationship with ivy and in batman the animate series they were paired together in a lot of episodes and implied to be really really close friends
"My name's Harleen, Harleen Quinzel" Am I going to hell if I say that I laughed so hard at this part? HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU!
Joker is in love with Batman. hahahah
It's funny how joker makes this connection batman. He sees him as another monster just like himself. Why else would Batman save him.
Zach Mask YES he's so in love with hims XD
Mo Bhuiyan
He makes conection, because they are antipodes. You see, they are both CrAzY, but joker is funny, not serious, kills people, and pretty much evil. Batman is all the way around. They are more look alike than you think.
maybe that's the joke he was waiting for her to get
This is what the origin of Harley Quinn and Joker in Suicide Squad should have been.
ImmaChiaotzu1 yeah but they made them into love bunnies
ImmaChiaotzu1 I personally prefer Harley and Joker as a more Bonnie and Clyde couple than an abusive one. A movie with a better script could have made it better though. The Joker Blogs gives a great version of Mad Love though.
ImmaChiaotzu1 true that.
@@rachelroberts1880 there are plenty of heroes/villians like that... The abusive relationship is something that completes joker
So was he talking about Batman the whole time, and Harleen assumed he was talking about her?
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yes that is correct
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dill pickle yeah X'D he is soooooo romantic
Joker loves Batman. Loves him so much that saying the very words he wanted to tell Batman would make anybody go crazy.
and batman is the only one who can resist him
Joseph P. Batman don't give a damn X'D
its because batman was literally the dark knight in shining armour, with joker getting stockholm syndrome
Joker wasn't manipulating anyone, he was talking about himself and his relationship with batman. Harleen just thought he was talking about her, that in addition to her own tremendous loneliness was all Joker needed to "manipulate" her.
I think Joker noticed this and used it to his advantage.
Lward96
- That's true to an extent. Even though the Joker's clinically insane, he's still quite brilliant in a sick, twisted way.
He is the most dangerous kind of psycho: The smart one
WOW 5 YEARS. WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE
@@strigers8007 i feel you😂
I like how you say in the same sentence that he both manipulated and didn’t manipulate her. Which is it, bud?
He obviously manipulated her in this scene, he was intentionally keeping it vague to dodge answering her questions and take advantage of her. Don’t be so naive.
This is incredibly brilliant. This perfectly establishes the love triangle between Harley , Joker, and Batman. Joker gives affection to Batman while Haley wishes it was for her
why people actually see that as a romantic atraction or some shit, Joker sees Batman as a brother, a naive brother who is on his level and still as crazy as him, like Cain and Abel
yoko gloomy you are the only one you think that way tho😂💔
@@doncomedia7927 lmao a brother? No way someone that looks at someone as a brother calls them darling, handsome, grabs his groin, smacks his ass, gets jealous over other people getting his attention, all the sexual innuendos, the "only you" in his poem, the poem itself that he sung to Batman, the comics; Harley sees it with Joker, Catwoman sees it Joker, Gordan sees it with Batman, Robin sees it both of them, Superman sees it with Batman, you get it by now.
And that being said yes they have this bond in which they look at eachother as friends, but there's the romantic aspect as well, so it's not completely platonic.
@Tyler Robbins shut up
@Tyler Robbins Isn't harley bisexual?
If I didn't know that was Troy Baker, I would have thought it was Mark Hamill. Very convincing. Also, anyone notice how quickly Harley's voice changes?
i didn't even know the voice actor had changed
Yeah, but Joker still sounds the same.
o//-//o that sounds NOTHING like Mark, it's sad that Troy didn't want to try something new.
It's all still part of the Arkham universe. He probably wanted to keep Joker's voice as consistent as possible.
Pandora Dragon since this was a prequel, troy couldn't deviate from the voice. He was hired because of how much he sounded like Mark Hamills joker.
There are some great quotes from this clip coming from Joker:
"And then you meet someone who changes your life - And you feel that you don’t even know who you are any more. Isn’t it funny how one little encounter can CLEAVE off little pieces of your past, DEFORM your memories and persona until you rethink your whole identity - and as you realize how foolish it all is - your LAUGHTER reverberates off the wall of your own emptiness."
Awesomely well said in my opinion. Saving it for Great Quotes of the DCU.
i love how harley thinks he's talking about her
That´s little sad :/
MemeGirl CZ It is, and I'm sure the Joker was counting on that too. Just goes to show how cruel he is.
He's not Mark Hamill, but man Troy Baker still does a spectacular job as the Joker.
Jake Mitchell He does indeed
+Meme Central
Dank Tank
Are you my dad?
He's better
Funny thing...all that time and He wasn't even referring to her, poor girl.
That's the point lmao. She fell in love with him while he was saying all of that, and when she practically went side by side with him, he never really cared what happened to her. Hence why Joker NEVER actually tried to kill the Batman.
Briz BE He considered himself to be Batman's friend really, but at the same time blames him.
Yea he knows batman won't die so he pushed him so much whenever always expecting him
Briz BE Yeah because in a sick way Joker considers Batman both his best friend and his worst enemy.
Xehanort10 "She never was very bright"
Holy shit this sequence is a masterpiece
Never forget his final words. "Bruce No! I need you..." - Batman Arkham Knight
Joker's biggest fear is him losing Batman and Batman forgetting about him.
Well, at least his fears will never come true (in this universe) even though he’s locked up in Bruce’s head, he’ll never truly leave him. As for forgetting? Not a chance. The joker may be dead and the last remnant of him locked away, but the memories and trauma of everything will never leave Bruce. When we see Arkham Batman again in the comics he’s a broken depressed man after nightfall, absolutely distraught that the joker has come back to life.
Holy shit Troy Baker is so calm he is freaking me out as the Joker. Props to him for some really solid voice acting.
Sometimes I wish they just took these game/animated movie scripts and made them into actual live action films! XD
I agree, but Troy Baker must play the Joker, his voice is amazing.
+Daisy Guzman yes. but Mark Hamill will always have the best joker voice
Sarah Robertson
Both are extremely good
+Daisy Guzman oh definitely
I agree. The Arkham games understood the Joker and Harley infinitely better than in Suicide Squad. They aren't supposed to actually be in love, or have the audience talking about "hashtag relationships"... -_- Joker gets Harley hopelessly infatuated with him, and he just uses her for plans, not as a companion or friend.
OK the Joker disturbingly knows a lot about how the Human Mind actually works.
very true
He's a narcissistic psycho, ofc he does. These folks are genius manipulators
He’s crazy, not stupid
@@thepillowhead2453 he is barely crazy. Crazy people aren't very aware of their world around them and consequences. Joker is fully aware of morality and the world around him, in real life he doesn't qualify as "insane"
@@joseluis5055lol just no, he’s fully insane based on his actions. Don’t try to act like he’s not.
that moment when you realize he was talking about batman all the time and harley does not know shit.
How would she know who he was talking about?
John Canary yeah, that's the point.
Apparently the Joker has a hard on for Batman... and I love it :-)
Joseph Stalin
Joseph Stalin HAHAHAH yeah, this clown 7w7
Well, Troy Baker isn't Mark Hamill, but as The Joker he did an excellent job.
But I'll always love Mark Hamill as the Joker
lightheart5 Who doesn't? He is Joker and Luke Skywalker! Two awesome characters in a single person!
when he says "you of all people should know" who else thought he would say "THERES PLENTY WRONG WITH ME"
take my blood, for example... xD
Mario Sergio CB I wish somebody would...
josh de Klerk ... this stuff is killing me!!
Mario Sergio CB
Because now there's a teeny little bit of me in you too, Bats!
***** Oh, c'mon. Don't tell me its not what you always wanted...
I can't believe people didn't like this game or even said it was the worst in the series this cutscene let alone made it up to par possibly even beyond arkham city and asylum
***** That was obvious though, the joker was the main focus of asylum and city if he wasn't the main focus in the prequel so many people will questioning why he was so important in asylum and city origins showed you why
I think part of the problem is that AOrigins was a victim of the Arkhamverse series own success, with the critical success of AAsylum and ACity hopes and expectations were so high that when it came out there was always going to be more harsh critisism than impartiality (which wasnt helped by the bugs or certain gameplay style choices). Lets be fair though it is still an amazing game that achieves a great deal and has some truely outstanding moments (like this one) but it was under pressure to live up to a lot of hype and therefore any stumbles get blown into sharper focus. So yes it might be the most harshly critiqued and lowest scored game in the series but that does not mean it is a bad game, it could have been far worse.
However Rocksteady seem to have used the opportunity well, listened to all the praise and critisim and adapted their new work accordingly. Arkham Knight looks like something really spectacular that should at least heal some wounds AOrigins created, however unintentionally.
im planning on getting this eventually regardless of reviews. I have played plenty of games that got bad reviews and i loved them. UGH just look at crap like Call of Duty. Gets 9's and 10's and hasent done crap new since the first MW. Im glad Ghost has gotten some negative reviews, Its about time.
In my opinion, Origins was the worst in the series! Not bad by any means, but the one I, personally, had the least fun playing. I liked it! Especially the new enemy archetypes. But it felt too much like Arkham City...
Again, IT'S NOT BAD! It was just not good enough to be any higher on my list!
I do have one major gripe with it and that's the bugs in the PC version! Besides that...it was ok! :)
Arkham Origins is not that bad, just weakest in the Arkham series. BTW, Joker looks cool in Arkham Origins!
When I first played this scene, I about died of a fanboy heart attack!
MrHPfan4ever X'D X'D me too bro
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i really do feel sorry for harley. she's an emotional wreck with no sense of self and has been manipulated by this evil dude and will stand by him, even if it means dying by his hand, because she feels as if being with joker is the closest thing to love she has ever felt.
And she comes back to him despite how abusive Joker is to her.
as do many women in abusive relationships.
theXtreme1man The difference here is that Joker is an insane killer who dresses like a clown and only does crimes for the joy of it, The funny (No pun intended) part of it is, Batman made him this way (In the Arkham universe) As you can see the joker use to actually do crimes for a reason, Impersonating Black Mask, Getting money from the bank, Etc. But his only purpose now is to make batman snap, Kill somebody, Or even become insane himself, Batman made joker more insane than he already is, And Joker did the same thing to Harley.
VideoGameFools and the thing is, its a cycle of misinterpreted love. joker was deprived of love and when he met batman, he began to love him because thats what he thought a loving relationship was or felt like. same with harley.
theXtreme1man The circle of masturbation...
So... How much does Joker charge for dating tips?
well he dosen't give any rather he will give you a tipon how to make you're gf hate you more xd
Your life.
Just make him laugh.
Stanisław Giers Actually, he could give pretty good tips on how to make a girl you like fall in love with you through one little conversation.
John Eusebio Make him laugh! Make him laugh, don't you know everyone wants to laugh hah hah... I couldn't help myself referencing singing in the rain :P
I honestly feel bad for the joker. He is incredibly sick and he can't help it. He can't change who he is now and batman knows this yet repeatedly tries to keep him in check hoping that somehow he will get better, but that will never happen. The saddest thing is that batman created the joker.
The death penalty is usually always wrong. However, their is a very small amount of humans. That their very existence is evil and needs to be put down.
Sadly the Joker is one of these, batman should kill him. All Joker will every do is cause harm to others.
True...
Joker isn't sick, the world made him twisted.
The thing that's saddest about Batman, he honestly wants the inmates of Arkham to get better.
Banchoking Sad? That sounds like a positive quality. Unfortunately, if that were to happen, the franchise would die off.
"There's nothing so cruel as memory" i can relate to those 6 words. Pure poetry
It's literally Joker romaticising with Batman
I mean literally!
Still a better love story than twilight
Fuck yes.
Joshua Armour Harley is so masochist
Joshua Armour That's so true but love is blind.
Joshua Armour I think The Joker is deep in love with Batman, he's the onlye one who call him "bat"
He was talking about me. not harley
not real
Bruce Wayne Ya wish he was talkin about you!
Harley Quinn I was talking about Harley! As soon as I saw her, I knew she was right for me
I want your head on my desk bats! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
+The Joker
Where the fuck did you all come from
One of the greatest scenes for the Joker.
I spend half my teenage years trying to pick up girls, nothing works.
A psychopath uses smart words and a story, picks up a hottie in less than 7 minutes.
The poor girl thinks she's talking about him when referring to the one who "understands", but there's only one person that TRULY interests Joker...
and that person's not in a lab coat.
Only one therapy session, and she's already falling for his bullshit? Come on, that's quite a stretch.
I understood it as a series of sessions over time.
hmahmo She said " a quick psychiatric evaluation" and they were the same clothes and it's the same location before and after the "flashbacks". So yeah, I think he just talked to her five minutes and she 's already onboard. That's sloppy writing if you ask me.
Hah, caught that the second time around; was distracted the first time I watched this. I still think it's a pretty decent symbolic summary of "The Killing Joke" though.
jihef03 Shes wearing a uniform, thats her work clothes
In reality and in canon it was a series of evaluations which he was talking about batsy but Harley, being Harley thought it was about her
Joker is a real philosopher.
I love the fact they tie in "The Killing Joke" into this game. For those who don't know, "The Killing Joke" is considered one of the top Batman/Joker stories, and not only inspired Christopher Nolan's "The Dark Knight", but also inspired Tim Burton's "Batman."
To be fair, tim burtons batman was awful in terms of loyalty to the comic book , the only remarcable one was nicholson.
True on that regard, but "The Killing Joke"'s story of Batman accidentally creating the Joker is in the film.
I love this scene, even though they were originally supposed to meet in Arkham Asylum. Not the game, the place.
I love that origin. It makes him seem a little more human, you know? I love thinking that once, he had a wife and a baby on the way.
I was thinking that too. I wonder why they would have changed it to Blackgate Prison seeing as the Joker's insane and Blackgate's houses the non-insane criminals.
Nightman221k Technically they do meet each other in the Arkham Asylum. Since this game is taking place in Batmans early career, Blackgate hadn't changed name to Arkham yet. But it is the same place. If I recall correctly..
Meganonr1 Black Gate and Arkham are two different places. Arkham is on an island, while Black Gate is in the city.
Meganonr1 not only that, but Black Gate is even mentioned in the Arkham Asylum and Arkham City games.
This scene displays the relationship between all three characters PERFECTLY. Joker is truly obsessed with batman; he doesn't understand him and unlike anyone he has ever met before, he actually FEARS him--more so than death...much more.
However, he devotes that obsession towards a weak-minded, impressionable Harleen. In my humble opinion, "Harley" is THE most tortured out of any of Joker's victims. She believes that the Joker is her one true love, but she will ultimately lead a torturous life because he will always show her enough "love" to keep her hanging on... only to brutally smash her heart through deception, verbal and physical abuse.
Worst psychologist ever. She was more a schoolgirl than doctor in the mental factor.
She's not supposed to be a psychologist haha she didn't study for it but she allured her professor for high grades
I love the slight ring noise you can hear when Harleen says that cops always beat on the sick and defenseless. It symbolizes the exact moment Joker realizes he can manipulate her.
Wow...that subtlety in the manipulations...
And yes, he's not Mark Hamil, but Troy Baker did a fantastic job nonetheless.
Of course.
A lot of these comments are how Harley failed to see what Joker was really talking about, others are talking about Joker's past. I'm just really amazed that Joker has his own fight and his own style. He wasn't a playable character aside from this part of the story right? I mean, Batman is the only playable character aside from this scene in Origins.
Connor Clemmons there was joker fight scenes in asylum, exclusive for ps3 and mac. also you can use mods to play it in pc. same animation i think
Pretty sure you can play as Tim Drake's Robin in Arkham City.
This game was really great and this scene is one of the best...
Arkham Origins: You of all people should know, there's nothing so CRUEL as MEMORY.
Arkham City: Nice of you to say, but you of all people should know, there's plenty wrong with me.
I love how Harley is already wearing her iconic colors: Red shirt, red nail polish, red shoes, black skirt, black stockings...
What i got from this conversation is that Joker is just playing ultimate "notice me senpai!" With Batman. Maybe that's why he's crazy because senpai never notices.
I enjoy the romantic music playing while him and Batman "Fall" for each other,😂💖👌
Batman did NOT throw Joker in the chemicals. I refuse to believe it
It wasn't quite like that, more of joker's way of seeing it. The comic explains it a little better.
***** Or watch Batman Under the Red Hood.
Read The Killing Joke. That is what that scene is based on...
I recall that the Joker jumped in the acid, yeah
Ah, thats right
That's it. Joker's totally gay for Batman...
Indeed lol
leave
He's not gay for him, he has never been able to relate to anyone except him. Batman is the ONLY person in the world who understands him on a way. Joker just wants to be understood by someone and Harley thinks she understands him, she really tries but she just doesn't understand him like Batman does but she does care about him the same way that Joker cares about Batman in his twisted way
@@liamrutland4025 agreed more like "love" is a deep obsession. what i don't really get is why?. Batman is only doing his job an it's obvious that he doesn't sees joker the way joker sees him. so what makes him so especial?
@@dissolve00 the fact that he saved his life after Joker spent all night to kill him, he's obsessed because he feels that Batman in his own violent way cares for him
jokerxbatman>jokerxharley :P
YES. One thousand times YES.
Yes! I mean, there's so much chemistry there that it's practically canon! I'LL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP~ ❤
The Fun In Funeral Which one or both. #Bats&Joker
Troy Baker... Perfect. I can't say he's better than Mark Hamil because he's basically just doing Mark Hamil's version of the voice, but even that takes talent.
I love how they played off the fact that Harley think's the Joker is talking about her, when all he's really obsessed with is the Batman.
LOL I was like: "Oh my god you're being played."
IKr... all i was think is, hes using you to get out :3 loll
6:00 ......Oh you're good, Joker. You are one clever son of a bitch.
Very underrated sequence in a game full of bugs
For a psychologist Harley is pretty easy to manipulate.
You find out in the tapes that it took months. She felt like being a friend would get him closer to her and open more
Being able to help others doesn't mean you are able to help yourself. There are a lot of psychologists who have mental issues.
Only you... can make this world seem right.
Only you... can make the darkness bright.
Only you and you alone...
Can thrill me like you do...
And fill my heart with love for only you.
Only you... can make this change in me.
For it's true, you are my destiny.
When you hold my hand
I understand... the magic that you do
You're my dream come true.
My one and only you...
Only you... can make this change in me.
For it's true... you are my destiny.
When you hold my hand
I understand... the magic that you do
You're my dream come true...
My one and only you...
MR. J
Joker is so romantic when it comes to Batman.
So...the joker is in love with batman?
let me tell you bout my best freind
Not quite. The simple fact is.. Guano man is very special to me. Without him, I wouldn't have anything fun to do!.. There would be no purpose to my life, Batsy gives me that purpose.
So its like the most epic bromance ever
In a way yes.. Even though he kinda sorta hates me.
Batman fascinates the Joker, and gives his life a new purpose. He thinks they have a unique "understanding" of one another, that no other criminal gets. Batman obviously doesn't share that assessment, and hates him - has even come close to killing him more than once, because obviously the Joker has filled entire graveyards with people, and is pretty much beyond any redemption.
Lots of Joker stories, deal with him trying to push Batman's limits, just to see what he will do. He is the chaos to Batman's order. In one recent storyline he sets out to kill Batman's closest allies, simply because he thinks they are holding him back.
The Batman-Joker relationship is awesome, and legendary. Quite possibly the best conflict in all of comic books.
This sequence was perfect and has every detail from the comic book stating his origins.
Batman is love. Batman is life.
You of all people should know, there's plenty wrong with me
So Joker's special person that he met... was batman. Weeeeiiiirrrrdd
joker wants the BAT-D
the visuals and dialogue in thsi summarize the joker to PERFECTION. it summarizes what will probably be the closest look into his mind we have ever had
all it takes is one bad day...
Feel really bad for Harley here. She so lonely and desperate and Joker plays her.
Yeah, I always feel bad for her.
Johnny She's the one that assumes she's the interest :^)
She deserves better than him
Jake Bryant So much better
Lol
I liked how they made a reference to the killing joke but they never included how his wife died, that was the whole reason for his "bad day".
Really love the "A Clockwork Orange" soundtrack when Joker is fighting in the theater.
You know it wasnt made for A Clockwork Orange right?
Adam Duffield
No, I thought that Rossini wrote music specifically for Kubrick's movie 150 years in advance. I also thought that a soundtrack of a movie always needs to have contemporary music in it, because otherwise it couldn't possibly be a soundtrack.
Sarcasm aside, I have the soundtrack from the movie and that includes music that was composed for it by Walter Carlos but never included in the movie. The electronic versions of classical pieces by Walter/Wendy Carlos WERE made for "A Clockwork Orange". Carlos had a lot of previous experience with that. Kubrick kinda beats Tarantino in the way he uses a song used for another movie into his own. In this case Gene Kelly's "Singing in the Rain" from the movie with the same name, predating "A Clockwork Orange" by almost 20 years. So yes, "Singing in the Rain" is in the A Clockwork Orange soundtrack too, despite having been made when Burgess hadn't even written his novel.
Finally, this scene here is a nice homage to A Clockwork Orange, as it takes place next to a stage and has the Joker violently beating up a lot of people.
It was also used in Sherlock. Moriarty was actually dancing to it while stealing the Crown Jewells from the Tower :'D So is it a coincidence that this music gets connected to villains this much?
Joker's conversation with Dr. Quinzel reminds me of "The Killing Joke"
The scene was probably inspired by it.
This scene, coupled with Barbara Gordon being in a wheelchair, seems to indicate that the Arkham series are sequels to The Killing Joke.
There's something I'm confused on. As both 3 games are good games but... If this all happened the comics how does this all tie in together with the killing joke comic? It has been confirmed that Batman kills the joker at the end of the comic and it ends but then we have story from Arkam City were the joker does from weakness. This doesn't make any sense and I thought Batman doesn't kill. Can some one please explain.
Juan Carlos Delgado Batman doesn't kill the Joker at the end of Killing Joke. All that happens in the end is the Joker telling Bats a joke, which Bats surprisingly starts laughing at. The final scene then shows Bats grabbing the laughing Joker and that's where it ends. Assumingly, the Joker is then taken to jail/asylum.
Thanks. I was told by a lot of fans that batman killed the joker but that theory didn't par with the Arkam series.
Joker has pretty eyes
joker knew she would an easy target to corrupt and turn into him minion when she said "cops in this city always beating on the sick and defenseless"
That was surprisingly deep. Well, a little more than I expected, which is to say very. And, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I didn't even think about the lack of Mark Hamill till a good solid minute after the video was over.
Her: he’s probably thinking about other women
Joker:
When you think your crush is talking about you but is actually referring to someone else.
Whatever Joker is capable of, I now see him as something akin to sad. Batman may do the things he does all stemming from the notion of some kind of revenge but Joker's actions just seem to scream out that he's someone and not just another faceless person among the crowd. Relate to that if you want but in the end, that's what Joker is most afraid of: being forgotten. To that I say, suck it up buttercup.
Joker : goes super deep into his mind and talks at length about his past traumas , while also talking about Batman.
Harley : Oookay? 1:48
Yeah, Harley never was the brightest star in the night sky.
THIS REMAINDS ME A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, YOU KNOW THAT SCENE OF FIGHT AT THE THEATHRE, BUT BOTH ARE AWESOME, GOOD JOB ROCKSTEADY
Midorima Shintaruo Rocksteady didn't develop origins, wb Montreal did.
You right sr, my bad
This was the best part of the game..
Batman and The Joker, two threads in the same stitch. To quote Frank Castle "They deserve each other"
Yes!
THIS PART BROKE ME SOOO MUCH!!! They meet eachother in ARKHAM ASYLUM!!!! you CAN'T do THIS!!!! :(((((((((((
No, in Akrham Asylum they already have years of history.
Desmond Istari In the animated series Harleen Quinzel met The Joker in Arkham Asylum, because she was his psychiatrist! Not in Blackgate... annoys me -_-
Ah well, this is an alternate universe.
Good point... Yeah, this game fucked up.
Joseph McCluskey
This is not Rockstar, this game was developed by WB. And Arkham is closed in this game, mad people and gangsters, they all go to Blackgate here.
Anyone else think a reformed Harleen would make an awesome Batgirl?
better than any batman movie so far. DAMN. very compelling.
My whole body is screaming The Killing Joke. All it takes is a bad day....
those words at the beginning
hit me and stuck to my mind ever since.
"There's nothing so Cruel as a Memory"
I love when Joker is like "I found a new purpose to go on!" While Batman is like "I'm fucking CURSED!"
It's weird seeing Harley as a regular person. It would be even weirder seeing Joker became the Joker.
When the Joker wore the Red Hood is the part closest to when we saw him as slightly normal. Even then he was just a common crook at the time. Yup
Personally i think this is the best representation of Harley and jokers relationship, not suicide squad joker and Harley
The funny part is that joker was right when he said all it takes is one very bad day thats unique to someone for them to lose themselves and their humanity
The Joker was the best part of this game.
i loved this part of the game, it showed how quickly the joker became so obsessed with batman
its scary how intelligent joker really is
The audio on this is really good, thank you.
I just had a thought. at 5:18 the joker was looking at a reflection of himself and he saw himself as a bat, just like what he saw with batman. this may sound a bit farfetched, but what if that is what he thinks he looks like and if that is one of the reasons why he says that he and batman are not so different? just a thought
Sounds semi-reasonable.
It's a possibility.
Or maybe he hates himself and is self destructive, so when he sees thew batman he gets enraged by his own self image.
both of these theories could interconnect, because yours sounds reasonable as well
I'd say he was playing Harley. He didn't mean anything he said about her, he was really referring to Batman and was just sort of manipulating her.
Oh yeah, like the whole I don't even know they're name thing. He was talking about Batman not Harley.
It's so sad that Joker is talking about Batman and Harley thinks that it's about her.
Why wasn't this joker on any of the movies ? that would have been beautiful, especially for Suicide Squad
unfortunately i think rocksteady owns this art. was disappointing because they didn't use this one for the killing joke movie. same voice actor.
it is just crazy, like put the actual Joker on the movie and stop using the wrong guys even tho one did a ok job. Put the actual joker in the movie
I remember this part of the game I knew who she was as soon as she walked in, And as soon as Joker said bad day I got chills and I was like Ahh Ya....