And that scene is what actually hints towards Joker's real danger: he might be insane but he is *unbelievably* smart, borderline genius. Easily as smart as Batman, if not even more so.
@@nxght6694 _a friendly reminder than in Arkham City Batman fell for the "old fake Joker gag" twice, despite Joker pretty much laying it out on a silver platter for him in advance_
I love how Joker manipulating Harley was almost entirely accidental. He was simply talking about Batman, but was doing it in such a way that Harley assumed it was her, then when Joker realised she was internalising what he was saying, he doubled down on it
That's the thing about the Joker, he's completely insane, no matter what he does, no matter what gadgets he has, the most dangerous weapon he has, is his voice, the moment he gets into your head, he's already won.
The joker isn't insane he is super sane he understands he is a comic book character so he kills anybody without caring because he knows it is not going to change anything
... no he doesn't. He is aware that he's INSANE, and he loves it. That's his deal. He's not like Deadpool, who breaks the fourth wall because he's aware.
That's actually what makes Batman villains so impressive. Every single one of them is a version of him that could of been. Zsasz and Penguin born into rich families and turned into a serial killer and a mobster through twisted fates. Two-face a man of law split into two by tragedy, and the Joker having a day of hell cracking his sanity. That's why the killing joke is so fascinating. Batman is the first patient. He's the one who escaped.
plasticweapon right? I was so impressed with this scene. Solid reference to The Killing Joke, some pretty awesome double-meaning in that it sounds like he's talking about Harley but he's really talking about Batman, and cool imagery to boot. Real stand-out moment in the game.
+Simon Colton (SCOLTON97) The Joker was the only good part about the game, even then people were tired of seeing the Joker for the 3rd time when they thought the focus would finally be on another character like Blackmask.
Xedfor That only makes the Arkham Knight battle hurt so much more but you're right, I hate the way they tried to make him a playable character though. Literally Robin reskinned.
+Geo NO that was not ONLY good part...whole game is equally good as Arkham city and bosses battles where fantastic and way better then Arkham city...from Arkham city i loved Thalia and Ras'al'gul
+Xedfor It wasn't that great either since it had tons of re-used design from Arkham City's Ra's Al Ghul fight.. And it's damn shame, thinking the potential Deathstrokes had.
Harley Quinn is your classic 'High INT, Low WIS' character. She's actually quite intelligent, but has poor impulse control and gullibility. She is capable of empathy and compassion, but lacks a strong moral center-she actually wants to do right, but looks to others to tell her what is right to do. The Joker knew all he needed to do was provide a puzzle for her to solve, something to enchant her. She's fooled by pretty neon lights (and clown paint) precisely because she understands the world as a mechanism, cold and analytical, but not as something warm and beautiful. She never got anywhere close to understanding him.
tbf, she was probably always crazy, maybe she had some inner demons lurking around her head and up until she met joker, they were chained up in the deepest pits of her mind she may've been a psychologist to try and help herself and others. understand the sick so she could cope, put the demons to rest, only for one of her patients to let the demons free and take over
+Christopher Nolan The Joker is a pathological liar who constantly construes the truth to fit his means for his own end. So even what you read in The Killing Joke is a lie. The Joker doesn't have an origin story. And that's what makes the Joker, THE JOKER. He even says so in the graphic novel that "One day it's one thing, the next it's another, if I'm going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
+Juan Salinas Origin stories for DC characters is more or less up in the air for writers. Even Batman and Superman who have well known origin stories have had their origin stories change over the years. Even if only just slightly. I think the only difference is while DC has pointed out which origin story is actually canon for a certain universe for some, for the Joker they never specifically pointed at one origin and said "That one is the canon." However, fans love the Killing Joke comic and think that this is the Joker's true origin and it would make sense because the story plays with his own ideas of what life is about. He was a man who had a bad day, but while the Joker does say "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another" really only pertains to the fine details. One of the things that remained consistent even among the many different origin stories DC has printed was that he was a failed comedian who took on a job by the mob to the Ace Chemicals plant and fell into acid which changed him. Always that falling into a bat of acid. So really, I think it is for the fans to decide what the real story is and I believe most fans love the Killing Joke the most because of how great and tragic of a story it really is...and how amazing and sadistic Joker is in that story.
You're entitled to make what you want about what you read on certain issues, but it's only head cannon. And no, the "tragic comedian" isn't a staple in many of his origin. His origins aren't touched on much at all in most cases. What the hoi polloi believe is irrelevant to the fact. And the fact is we no nothing about the Jokers origin except lies.
I love how Joker plays the pronoun game so Harleen doesn’t realize he’s talking about Batman. “He makes me feel-“ “Wait, he?” “Yes, the man I encountered earlier.” “... dammit...”
I'll never understand why this game is the black sheep of the series. The side missions weren't nearly as good as Arkham City, sure, but the main story was incredibly interesting, engaging and well done. The entire Arkham series is the story of Batman and The Joker and they did a great job at telling the story of how it all began. As a game that came out just to hold you over during the wait between City and Knight it was fantastic. I think the only issue is that they weren't absolutely clear in their marketing that this was a game being made by a totally different team that should not be looked at as the Rocksteady sequel to the first two games, which was probably done on purpose to sell more games. So, it makes sense that people buying it for that reason would feel betrayed and not like the game. But as someone who was fully aware that this game was just "Here's the mechanics you know by a different team telling a different story" the game was really awesome.
These two lunatics want to escape the asylum. Only way out is through the rooftops, so they make their way up. Only thing between them and freedom is a big gap between the building they're on and the next. First guy jumps, no problems, second guy? "Not a chance!" He says. First guy brandishes his flashlight. "Here, this light has a strong beam, you can walk across it as I shine it under you!" Second guy looks at him and says, "What do you think I am, crazy? You'll turn off the flashlight the second I'm off the building!"
So Joker accidentally seduced Harley. It’s not like he meant to do it on purpose. He was talking about Batman, but Harley thought it was her. And she made a move, and Joker took it an ran. This whole abusive relationship between her and the joker was all her doing. She misinterpreted it. It’s what joker does. He just goes with the flow and makes do with what he has, which is what he did here. So it wasn’t all Harley’s fault, but it was mainly hers.
Yeah the moment Harley told Joker her name he INMEDIATELY understood what was going on and took advantage of the situation in a "Oh yeah! I WAS talking about you!" kind of way.
"Your laughter reverberates off the walls of your own emptiness" That piece of dialogue is personally the best piece of dialogue i've herd from Troy Baker's Joker. As for Mark Hamill i think the "Twinkle, twinkle little bat, watch me kill your favourite cat" from Arkham city is the best of Mark Hamill's Joker.
Or "Whats your worst fear, Bats!? Failing to take back the Asylum? Not saving the Commissioner in time?! ME!? IN A THONG?!? HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!" -Arkham Asylum
The best part about this is the fact that it's coming from the messed up, twisted mind of the Joker. That means that there is no way to tell whether this is true or not, just like the comic. The Joker isn't known for his honesty!
+DrkBlueXG Dude the Killing Joke is a classic story, EVERYONE, from cartoons to games, uses some variation of this as Joker's origin story. But the Joker himself says sometimes he remembers it different ways.
+DrkBlueXG No, it doesn't give it more validity. That's the point of being The Joker. These games aren't canonical anyways and neither was The Killing Joke. Only certain aspects, like Barbra getting paralyzed and becoming Oracle carried over to canon.
Harley Quinn is a bad therapist and psychologist. She just doesn’t listen does she? All Joker has are negative thoughts. Edit: ohhhh my goddd whattt so many likes thanks 🙏 and omg maverick hunter x liked my comment wow
It's kind of interesting, seeing Joker actually being completely honest about what he's thinking and feeling. Surely he omits a bit to get Harley on his side, but it's an interesting look into his psyche that nobody but Harley ever really gets to see.
Harleen was actually very bright, as she would need to be in order to be a psychologist, but she let her loneliness and desire for a solid human connection cloud her judgment. She fooled herself into thinking she was in love. Once she becomes Harley Quinn, as she once noted in the comics, she played dumb for Joker's sake so that she could reshape herself in an image she assumed he would love the most.
to the people saying "she fell in love with joker because he was talking about batman" you have poor observation skills, the whole time Harleen thought the joker was taking about her, and also they shared the same philosophy.
I didn't quite think she thought that (though it did cross my mind), but I could clearly see where he seduced her to feel empathy for him and knew darn well it had nothing to do with Batman.
LIONREV7 I get the strong impression that this took place over a multiple sessions. The break between the comedy house and the red hood bit is too unnatural.
Mehdi Lebowski this is a truncated version of the mad love harley origin story which is why it feels rushed in the aforementioned comic harley studies joker for months before she falls in love with him
***** he emotionally manipulates harley as for the florence nightengale effect yes the nature of her infatuation could be a result of the effect similarly to ww& steve trevor in the original ww original story
People talk crap about Arkham origins, but this scene was amazing. I loved how Joker basically painted the picture that it was always him and batman's destiny's to fight each other.
+Ninjamaster227 I don't think there was much hate at all about the story. It's somewhat hard to mess up Batman these days. Most of the hate was towards the bugs, controls, and hollow feeling while actually controlling Batman.
Matthew Stryletz Wasn't the main problem in Knight to most people the focus on so many Batmobile segments? That really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, mostly due to the fact that you didn't NEED to use it as much as the devs obviously wanted you to... at least outside of the side missions that involve it (like those stupid ass Riddler courses). Origins' problems for a lot of people were in the heart of the game, that being while playing as Batman lol. Had there been less Batmobile segments in Knight, and Origins had less QTE and forced mashing segments, both would have probably been beloved all the more lol.
@@Gadget-WalkmenIt can be in the Arkham Verse. I don't remember it quite well, but Joker's tone actually changed when He discussed about it with Hugo Strange during a interview in Arkham City. To make a valid point, this is all within the Joker's head, and He's not speaking about his backstory.
Well, 10 years ago i did a presentation in front of class for my sociology work about batman (teacher randomly selected characters for the class and i got lucky to pick my second fav hero), and that day i got A+ (here the grade is 10/10) and a bunch of girls from my class actually began to fell interested in me (a nerd talking about the psychological e sociological aspects of a character actually managed to make girls fell aroused, lol). So i think that talk about the batman really work hahahaha
Someone very, very special, but whose real name I don't even know yet! Many years later... What's the matter Batman? No witty comeback? No threat? Then I'll provide the narration. I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind. Oh he bravely tried to fight it at first. You would've been proud to see him so strong. But all too soon the serums and the shocks took their toll... and the dear lad began to share such secrets with me, secrets that are mine alone to know... Bruce. It's true Batsy! I know everything! And kinda like the kid who peeks at his Christmas presents, I must admit, it's sadly anticlimactic. Behind all the stern and batarangs you're just a little kid in a play-suit crying for Mommy and Daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic... Oh what the heck! I'll laugh anyway! AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
TPDManiacXC626 *Batman jumps throw the window and bitch slaps joker* If you don't like the movie, I got slides. *Then Batman tosses him out the window then jumps him and grabs him by the neck. I'll break you in two. Oh ho Batman. If you had the guts for that kind of fun you'd have done it years ago. I on the other hand....
+Niall Campbell imo I didn't really like Troy Baker's performance I just that he tried to copy Mark Hamel too much and wasn't his own Joker so to speak
***** Not to me. Well there's different Jokers, but I don't think rock would fit the majority of them. Maybe Leto's? We know Cesar's Joker like Beach and Party music. Jack's liked pop and hip-hop. I like to think Heath's listened to classical, but that's just me. I think it's safe to say that the Pet Shop Boys cover of Always on My Mind is playfulness and ethereal enough to it to fit the majority of them.
This was probably my favorite mission in all of the Arkham games. I'm not sure why but it was completely different than anything that the storyline entailed and wasn't essential to the story at all but it was strangely beautiful.
That scene with the Joker beating up people in that bar...it's set with "The Thieving Magpie". I remember another scene of a beating under the Thieving Magpie. A scene involving ultra-violence.
Joker: Someone very, very special, but whose real name I don't even know yet! Harley: My name's Harleen. Harleen Quinzel. Joker: *I don't remember asking you a damn thing.*
When I played this bit through the very first thing that came to my mind is The Killing Joke. It also helps that I don't know the One Bad Day graphic novel.
I don't know why people are bitching on Batman Origins, The graphics are awesome, voice acting is great , and imo the joker looks better in origins than in asylum/city/knight.Still can't decide if Origins or Knight is my favorite batman game. (by the way I loved all the 4 arkham games)
itszaaaamzeh No matter what name she goes by, she's still the same person. Also, I'm not calling her pathetic for misunderstanding. I'm saying that it's pathetic that she fell in love with someone over a misunderstanding. And, I think you think I'm talking about on a personal level. I'm not. I mean as a character. She's purposefully written to be pitiable and pathetic. It's sad and well written. I like it.
+TheDisarminghinkle She's no where near the same person here as Harley Quinn what are you talking about? She's not written pathetic she's written just as sane if not more insane than the joker.
I gotta say, in DC, Joker and Batman are my favorites. I feel like they really show the two sides of a person. It really shows the strengths and the weaknesses of a person.
i like how they use the story as a psychological journey for the Joker here, rather than as an actual back story. To me the Joker not having a real origin story makes him even more interesting. I get tge mystery will make people want to come up with one, but i personally find it one mystery best enjoyed unsolved.
+Justin Biggs plus his origins were jokes. it makes the most sense to me that the identity of Batman's greatest foe is the one mystery forever illusive to him.
In this scene we see the Joker describing in rich words his love for Batman and Haley thought he was talking about her, that's why she fell in love with him and became Harley Quinn. Joker's obsession with Batman made him crazy when they first met because he saw in Batman some of himself or even himself entirely. He felt lonely throughout his whole life, like he couldn't relate to anyone really and everything changed when he met Batman. HE LOVES BATMAN, hes obsessed with him and, believe it or not, he wants to help him in his own twisted fucked up way.
05:06 - I was always sure that when Joker talked about "someone very special but whose name I don't even know yet" he was actually talking about Batman but Harley thought he was referring to her.
No not really because he was just saying how much he really likes Batman and he was just confusing Harley. Also, when Joker said "I don't even know their name." Harley said her name thinking that he is talking about her. If Joker said no I am talking about the Batman that is different, but he didn't meaning it was all on purpose and was a clever psychopathic set up so lol I have no empathy for Joker. He knows what he is doing and since Joker is so unpredictable he could really be lying about his back story some people think he is lying when they gave him a actual origin story since of course Joker is very unpredictable.
I realize that it's rushed for the sake of saving the game from filler... But still, where did Harley get her Psych degree? 5 minutes of calm talking undoes years of study and practice? hahaha.
Bakesale59 I think it was said that she didn't really actually earn her degree in a totally legit manner and often relied on her looks to get what she wanted. (citation needed)
newphew92 perhaps. I've honestly never read an origin in the comics for her. Plenty of New 52 and Suicide Squad under my belt with her, but the animated series is the only origin I'm familiar with, and I haven't seen that in years.
Bakesale59 Dont think of Origins as truly canon. More like a retelling of events from an unreliable narrator. Neither Paul Dini nor Sefton Hill had anything to do with this game, and thats sad since their Arkamverse was Batman close to perfection. Im pretty sure the only reason Origins was made was because Warner Bros wanted to capitalize more on the previous games, and wasn´t willing to wait the 4 years development would take to the next generation. The writers on this game was from Assasin´s Creed, who shit on their own story material for every new game. the director was your average sandbox dude. The entire game was a cash-grab
CurseCreep Rocksteady confirmed that AO is canon. But yes, it wasn't initialy planned to be made and WB ordered a prequel game because AK took so long.
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I love his double sided dialogue with the express purpose of explaining his infatuation with Batman while simultaneously manipulating Harley.
And that scene is what actually hints towards Joker's real danger: he might be insane but he is *unbelievably* smart, borderline genius. Easily as smart as Batman, if not even more so.
@@mihan2d he’s not smarter, but he is still intelligent
@@nxght6694 _a friendly reminder than in Arkham City Batman fell for the "old fake Joker gag" twice, despite Joker pretty much laying it out on a silver platter for him in advance_
@@mihan2d How do you hide something from the worlds greatest detective? You put it right under his long pointy nose!
Not infatuation, obsession. In Jokers mind, Batman and Joker are one and the same. Two halves of the same coin.
I love how Joker manipulating Harley was almost entirely accidental. He was simply talking about Batman, but was doing it in such a way that Harley assumed it was her, then when Joker realised she was internalising what he was saying, he doubled down on it
I think he knew it from the start, if you look closely he smiles after she says “Defenseless “ he understood that she was easy to manipulate.
That's one of the most interesting things about the Joker. He's completely insane, and yet at times, he could be considered a genius.
@@roguescorner9042 in arkham city ig one of the goons say this exact same thing
@@roguescorner9042he’s not insane. He thinks he’s insane but he’s no different from the average asshole waking down the street to work
That's the thing about the Joker, he's completely insane, no matter what he does, no matter what gadgets he has, the most dangerous weapon he has, is his voice, the moment he gets into your head, he's already won.
So true
Yep
The joker isn't insane he is super sane he understands he is a comic book character so he kills anybody without caring because he knows it is not going to change anything
... no he doesn't. He is aware that he's INSANE, and he loves it. That's his deal. He's not like Deadpool, who breaks the fourth wall because he's aware.
+MnMgaming 123 you watched that video lol
Troy Baker did a great job as a Mark Hamil alternative Joker.
mark will always be better though
Ryan Swift Well Obviously, but he still did a pretty good job.
I actually prefer this guy over mark
undead890 well yeah but out of the two mark is the better one, its probably because he's done it for longer so he has more experience.
Mark puts in little voice inflections into his work as the joker. every line has some emotion in it and screams of his mental instability
Almost feels like the Joker and Batman are the same person.
Pretty much yes. They become who they are after one bad day. The only difference is that they're on opposite sides of the same coin.
+Maverick Hunter X so deep
+Maverick Hunter X like harry potter and voldemort
Batman is joker
That's actually what makes Batman villains so impressive. Every single one of them is a version of him that could of been. Zsasz and Penguin born into rich families and turned into a serial killer and a mobster through twisted fates. Two-face a man of law split into two by tragedy, and the Joker having a day of hell cracking his sanity. That's why the killing joke is so fascinating. Batman is the first patient. He's the one who escaped.
harley quinn is a bad psychologist
Actually, she's just very easily manipulated
+Adrian Roberto Ruiz Martinez but a good fuck
true how the hell will you free a captive after reading his report
+Adrian Roberto Ruiz Martinez Or is she a really good psychologist with just a bit too much empathy? #philosophy
+Adrian Roberto Ruiz Martinez Even the chick from Silence of the Lambs held up better.
this dialogue is...suprisingly good.
plasticweapon right? I was so impressed with this scene. Solid reference to The Killing Joke, some pretty awesome double-meaning in that it sounds like he's talking about Harley but he's really talking about Batman, and cool imagery to boot. Real stand-out moment in the game.
plasticweapon Ehhhhhhh...nah. Riddled with clichés for a boring character.
@113606706667675759532 i'll amend it, it's suprisingly good for something like this.
***** yes,it is.
***** same here
This game is severely underrated.
+Simon Colton (SCOLTON97) The Joker was the only good part about the game, even then people were tired of seeing the Joker for the 3rd time when they thought the focus would finally be on another character like Blackmask.
+Geo The fight with Deathstroke was also pretty good part.
Xedfor That only makes the Arkham Knight battle hurt so much more but you're right, I hate the way they tried to make him a playable character though. Literally Robin reskinned.
+Geo NO that was not ONLY good part...whole game is equally good as Arkham city and bosses battles where fantastic and way better then Arkham city...from Arkham city i loved Thalia and Ras'al'gul
+Xedfor It wasn't that great either since it had tons of re-used design from Arkham City's Ra's Al Ghul fight..
And it's damn shame, thinking the potential Deathstrokes had.
The second she said “beating on the sick and defenseless”, joker knew she could be turned. That her mind was weak
this comment is as underrated as batman arkham origins
Nome Criativo two underrated comments in one section. Brilliant.
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Harley Quinn is your classic 'High INT, Low WIS' character.
She's actually quite intelligent, but has poor impulse control and gullibility. She is capable of empathy and compassion, but lacks a strong moral center-she actually wants to do right, but looks to others to tell her what is right to do. The Joker knew all he needed to do was provide a puzzle for her to solve, something to enchant her. She's fooled by pretty neon lights (and clown paint) precisely because she understands the world as a mechanism, cold and analytical, but not as something warm and beautiful.
She never got anywhere close to understanding him.
Joker: *Shows that he is Crazy And sad*
Harley: Im wet
tf lmaooo
Prtty much
She's such an airhead lol didn't even know he was talking about batman the entire time
tbf, she was probably always crazy, maybe she had some inner demons lurking around her head and up until she met joker, they were chained up in the deepest pits of her mind
she may've been a psychologist to try and help herself and others. understand the sick so she could cope, put the demons to rest, only for one of her patients to let the demons free and take over
You can just feel Harley's tumblr account radiating off of her, lol
After reading The Killing Joke this all makes so much more sense.
+Christopher Nolan The Joker is a pathological liar who constantly construes the truth to fit his means for his own end. So even what you read in The Killing Joke is a lie. The Joker doesn't have an origin story. And that's what makes the Joker, THE JOKER. He even says so in the graphic novel that "One day it's one thing, the next it's another, if I'm going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
+Juan Salinas The joker doesn't have a specific origin story YET... I heard recently that there's plans of giving him a background.
sharpie9dud Until it becomes canon, it doesn't matter.
+Juan Salinas Origin stories for DC characters is more or less up in the air for writers. Even Batman and Superman who have well known origin stories have had their origin stories change over the years. Even if only just slightly. I think the only difference is while DC has pointed out which origin story is actually canon for a certain universe for some, for the Joker they never specifically pointed at one origin and said "That one is the canon."
However, fans love the Killing Joke comic and think that this is the Joker's true origin and it would make sense because the story plays with his own ideas of what life is about. He was a man who had a bad day, but while the Joker does say "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another" really only pertains to the fine details.
One of the things that remained consistent even among the many different origin stories DC has printed was that he was a failed comedian who took on a job by the mob to the Ace Chemicals plant and fell into acid which changed him. Always that falling into a bat of acid.
So really, I think it is for the fans to decide what the real story is and I believe most fans love the Killing Joke the most because of how great and tragic of a story it really is...and how amazing and sadistic Joker is in that story.
You're entitled to make what you want about what you read on certain issues, but it's only head cannon. And no, the "tragic comedian" isn't a staple in many of his origin. His origins aren't touched on much at all in most cases. What the hoi polloi believe is irrelevant to the fact. And the fact is we no nothing about the Jokers origin except lies.
Despite the ratings, this scene was profoundly brilliant, and strangely alluring psychologically.
kungfumaster51 what the heck did you just say
This conversation is a fucking masterpiece.
jonsnow targaryen totally
jonsnow targaryen IKR, it's the kind that should've been in "Mad Love".
I love how Joker plays the pronoun game so Harleen doesn’t realize he’s talking about Batman.
“He makes me feel-“
“Wait, he?”
“Yes, the man I encountered earlier.”
“... dammit...”
@@forrestrous4551 revoke that sentence you heathen
@@forrestrous4551 no haha
@@forrestrous4551 I'd rather have no ability to think then to admit it's true
@@forrestrous4551 lmao you’re probably also one of those people who thought SpongeBob was gay. Quit overthinking it, not everything is about sex.
@@alexiosmonary3388 wheres the problem with that?
Man when he says “well Harley you got one now” he’s so smooth and he seems so nice that even I started to fall for it. He’s good, real good
I'll never understand why this game is the black sheep of the series. The side missions weren't nearly as good as Arkham City, sure, but the main story was incredibly interesting, engaging and well done. The entire Arkham series is the story of Batman and The Joker and they did a great job at telling the story of how it all began. As a game that came out just to hold you over during the wait between City and Knight it was fantastic.
I think the only issue is that they weren't absolutely clear in their marketing that this was a game being made by a totally different team that should not be looked at as the Rocksteady sequel to the first two games, which was probably done on purpose to sell more games. So, it makes sense that people buying it for that reason would feel betrayed and not like the game. But as someone who was fully aware that this game was just "Here's the mechanics you know by a different team telling a different story" the game was really awesome.
maybe coz it wasn't made by rocksteady?
Rob Rose but it wasn't part of the whole series different joker and Batman
Rob Rose because people are assholes and we’re mad this game was from another company
Its my favourite one people hate it cause it wasnt made by rocksteady
@@markopolo123ful yeah i agree
These two lunatics want to escape the asylum. Only way out is through the rooftops, so they make their way up. Only thing between them and freedom is a big gap between the building they're on and the next. First guy jumps, no problems, second guy? "Not a chance!" He says. First guy brandishes his flashlight. "Here, this light has a strong beam, you can walk across it as I shine it under you!" Second guy looks at him and says, "What do you think I am, crazy? You'll turn off the flashlight the second I'm off the building!"
Seriously? The Killing Joke joke at the end of the book.
techno 417 yup. Video felt like false advertising, so I thought I'd put it in
*Grandiose applause*
***** Heh.
Buzz 32123 here all week ;) kinda
The joker is a better psychologist than Harley Quinn
So Joker accidentally seduced Harley. It’s not like he meant to do it on purpose. He was talking about Batman, but Harley thought it was her. And she made a move, and Joker took it an ran. This whole abusive relationship between her and the joker was all her doing. She misinterpreted it. It’s what joker does. He just goes with the flow and makes do with what he has, which is what he did here. So it wasn’t all Harley’s fault, but it was mainly hers.
Yeah the moment Harley told Joker her name he INMEDIATELY understood what was going on and took advantage of the situation in a "Oh yeah! I WAS talking about you!" kind of way.
Maybe that's what's going on in my life right now
Yet some people says that joker and Harley is couple goals
This comment was made a year ago but fits perfectly into the new joker movie.
Johnny Silverhand nah poison ivy and Harley Quinn are couple goals
"Your laughter reverberates off the walls of your own emptiness"
That piece of dialogue is personally the best piece of dialogue i've herd from Troy Baker's Joker.
As for Mark Hamill i think the
"Twinkle, twinkle little bat, watch me kill your favourite cat"
from Arkham city is the best of Mark Hamill's Joker.
my favorite line from hamil is: Nice of you to say, but you of all people should know there's plenty wrong with me.
Finnex Movies I love the smile he gives after that line.
Or "Whats your worst fear, Bats!? Failing to take back the Asylum? Not saving the Commissioner in time?! ME!? IN A THONG?!? HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!" -Arkham Asylum
One. Bad. Day.
came make
+TheSmashITChannel can*
potatoes
Hello Korean man
Potatoes x2
I love how Harley thinks joker is talking about her but he's talking about batman lol :-)
+Andrew VanCura yes sherlock, you noticed the same thing as dozens of other commenters including 2 top comments- real creativity from u there
Oh bite me u jackass find better use of your time than trolling commenters 🖕
Andrew VanCura you literally copied what other people said over and over again- just scroll down...u jackass
+Andrew VanCura yeah, and then by doing so, she thinks she can help him, only for her to go insane thanks to the Joker
Well, it doesn't stop it from being fascinating AND funny.
The best part about this is the fact that it's coming from the messed up, twisted mind of the Joker. That means that there is no way to tell whether this is true or not, just like the comic. The Joker isn't known for his honesty!
true, but having it told twice by the comic and then this does give it more validity than others.
+Megalodon "One day it's one thing, the next it's another, if I'm going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
+DrkBlueXG Dude the Killing Joke is a classic story, EVERYONE, from cartoons to games, uses some variation of this as Joker's origin story. But the Joker himself says sometimes he remembers it different ways.
+DrkBlueXG No, it doesn't give it more validity. That's the point of being The Joker. These games aren't canonical anyways and neither was The Killing Joke. Only certain aspects, like Barbra getting paralyzed and becoming Oracle carried over to canon.
+Battle Pope This guy gets it.
Troy is freaking genius. I could never tell that's him, he's so good. He was great as Batman too in Telltale games.
Bruce Snow it’s crazy how he can be Batman and joker lol
And even in the batman and ninja turtles movie too and the lego batman tv movies....they have him working
I have to keep reminding myself too. His range is amazing.
He's like a chameleon
Harley Quinn is a bad therapist and psychologist. She just doesn’t listen does she? All Joker has are negative thoughts.
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Shahid Ullah nice reference
Nice.
BLIAM 1318 thank you.
That’s what a psychologist is for: trying to find your thoughts
@@christinachandler725 Which she failed at
It's kind of interesting, seeing Joker actually being completely honest about what he's thinking and feeling. Surely he omits a bit to get Harley on his side, but it's an interesting look into his psyche that nobody but Harley ever really gets to see.
Bad News-It's Not Mark Hamill!
Good News-It's Troy Baker!
Troy Baker is now also going to be voicing Batman in the Telltale game series.
+Medication102 Troy Baker is definitely 1A to Mark Hamhills 1
+Medication102 Wow I guess you can't play any games then seen as he voice acts for literally everything.
I didn't even realize it was him until I did a double take on the title, that's how good he is.
Mark will always be better
correct me if Im wrong,but all this time that ''special''someone the joker talks about is actually batman,but Harley thinks its her?
ThePato2007 Yup. Joker folled Harleen... and completely by accident, without even trying, it seems. Then again, she was never very bright.
That's the joke!
Harleen was actually very bright, as she would need to be in order to be a psychologist, but she let her loneliness and desire for a solid human connection cloud her judgment. She fooled herself into thinking she was in love. Once she becomes Harley Quinn, as she once noted in the comics, she played dumb for Joker's sake so that she could reshape herself in an image she assumed he would love the most.
ThePato2007 Nice job. You figured it out.
M. Exploision Read that in the jokers voice.
her: my names Harleen. harleen quinzel.
me: girl he in love with batman not you
I love how romantic batmans relationship with the joker is
Me too
I ship it
So romantic Joker killed his Robin and paralyzed poor Barbara
I prefer to see it as two rivals fighting on a never ending game until one of them wins
@@thegrimrhino9871 killed? More like tortured over a year and turned him into the red hood
Harley is just like Staples. That was Easy.
SpadaccinoLuciano 100th like
to the people saying
"she fell in love with joker because he was talking about batman"
you have poor observation skills, the whole time Harleen thought the joker was taking about her, and also they shared the same philosophy.
I didn't quite think she thought that (though it did cross my mind), but I could clearly see where he seduced her to feel empathy for him and knew darn well it had nothing to do with Batman.
+Noel Ramos To the top with you!
Damn
Life perception changed forever
Duh.
I doubt anyone didn't get that.
It is just me or Harley fall in love with him too soon?
yes i agree to that
LIONREV7
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency
LIONREV7 I get the strong impression that this took place over a multiple sessions. The break between the comedy house and the red hood bit is too unnatural.
Mehdi Lebowski this is a truncated version of the mad love harley origin story which is why it feels rushed in the aforementioned comic harley studies joker for months before she falls in love with him
***** he emotionally manipulates harley as for the florence nightengale effect yes the nature of her infatuation could be a result of the effect similarly to ww& steve trevor in the original ww original story
Joker: Your laughter reverberates off the walls of your own emptiness
Batman: Joker's laughter reverberates off the walls of his own mind
All it takes is one Long speech about Batman...
Works everytime with the ladies
Makes you wonder why she has a crush on Bats.. lol
People talk crap about Arkham origins, but this scene was amazing. I loved how Joker basically painted the picture that it was always him and batman's destiny's to fight each other.
+Ninjamaster227 I don't think there was much hate at all about the story. It's somewhat hard to mess up Batman these days. Most of the hate was towards the bugs, controls, and hollow feeling while actually controlling Batman.
+foomp And yet, this game is mostly forgotten and not considered canon by the "fans" and Arkham Knight is given a pass.
Matthew Stryletz
Wasn't the main problem in Knight to most people the focus on so many Batmobile segments? That really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, mostly due to the fact that you didn't NEED to use it as much as the devs obviously wanted you to... at least outside of the side missions that involve it (like those stupid ass Riddler courses). Origins' problems for a lot of people were in the heart of the game, that being while playing as Batman lol. Had there been less Batmobile segments in Knight, and Origins had less QTE and forced mashing segments, both would have probably been beloved all the more lol.
It has really good reviews though, so it is a BRILLIANT game, just in most people's opinions, not as good as the other games.
Mad hatters scene was pretty amazing as well visuals really played out in this game
At 4:16 you can see Joker's unborn child with Jeannie. My heart breaks everytime...
hooni chan actually its really sad. It shows how people are. Some react bad and lose theirselfs. And Some grows stronger
But i thought it was The Joker still as Red Hood. Formed himself looking like a fetus in a vat of chemicals, representing a rebirth into a Joker.
I thought that was his heart
It's JUST an idea that joker has for his past, it's not definite at all as his offical backstory.
@@Gadget-WalkmenIt can be in the Arkham Verse. I don't remember it quite well, but Joker's tone actually changed when He discussed about it with Hugo Strange during a interview in Arkham City. To make a valid point, this is all within the Joker's head, and He's not speaking about his backstory.
The way Joker talks about Batman and Harleen thinks it's her is very cleverly done.
How to get a girlfriend 101: talk about batman
Well, 10 years ago i did a presentation in front of class for my sociology work about batman (teacher randomly selected characters for the class and i got lucky to pick my second fav hero), and that day i got A+ (here the grade is 10/10) and a bunch of girls from my class actually began to fell interested in me (a nerd talking about the psychological e sociological aspects of a character actually managed to make girls fell aroused, lol). So i think that talk about the batman really work hahahaha
@@Canalbiruta lol you dummy liar loser 😂😂😂
I love how Joker is talking about Batman AND making Harley think that he's talking about her
i still don't know how this game receives hate
Gameplay exists too
@@xeox4280 the gameplay was practically identical to arkham city, which has the best gameplay of the series.
@@silenth13 ➖〰️➖
Someone very, very special, but whose real name I don't even know yet!
Many years later...
What's the matter Batman? No witty comeback? No threat? Then I'll provide the narration. I'll begin with how I peeled back the layers of the boy's mind. Oh he bravely tried to fight it at first. You would've been proud to see him so strong. But all too soon the serums and the shocks took their toll... and the dear lad began to share such secrets with me, secrets that are mine alone to know... Bruce. It's true Batsy! I know everything! And kinda like the kid who peeks at his Christmas presents, I must admit, it's sadly anticlimactic. Behind all the stern and batarangs you're just a little kid in a play-suit crying for Mommy and Daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic... Oh what the heck! I'll laugh anyway! AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
Yes! Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker! XD y
TPDManiacXC626 Damn you. You just made me realize how much I miss Mark Hamill's voice in this game.
TPDManiacXC626 *Batman jumps throw the window and bitch slaps joker*
If you don't like the movie, I got slides.
*Then Batman tosses him out the window then jumps him and grabs him by the neck.
I'll break you in two.
Oh ho Batman. If you had the guts for that kind of fun you'd have done it years ago. I on the other hand....
Batman falls to the ground
Edwin Ortiz It's over Batman. Robin is mine. the last thing you'll hear will be our laughter. Here you go sonny boy. deliver the punch line.
Hey, do you know how many billionares take to create a superhero?
No...
Three.. Two to die and one to never get through it
Who are those two?
@YamiXeno oh daaaaamn
@Oisin Van Niekerk she was just a GoldDigger
Lol
Wasn’t that from Arkham Knight?
Wait, so Harley fell in love with Joker because he was talking about Batman? Why does that not work in real life?!
No Harley fell in love with joker here because she thought the joker was talking about her
+Grinddor She fell in love with him because she thought Joker understands her and thinks they have the same conditions
+Paul Francis Goneda When in reality that couldn't be farther from the truth.
You guys do realize, that this was supposed to be a joke right?
+Grinddor It is hard for me to realize were they screwing with you or are they actually ignorant
Troy Baker: Every bit as good of a voice for the Joker as Mark Hamill.
Troy Baker is damn good but I still prefer mark Hamil just that little bit more
still I can't complain he did an excellent job
+Niall Campbell imo I didn't really like Troy Baker's performance I just that he tried to copy Mark Hamel too much and wasn't his own Joker so to speak
+Zeke Luebeck whoops meant to write Hamil
Only young joker
But I still agree
I always love how the Joker is a low key hella martial artist during the fighting scene.
they used the same fighting mechanics on all characters
notoriousbig3k Ooooh, ok. That makes sense. Thanks ": )
+notoriousbig3k not really, Jokers moveset is completely different
Never underestimate the power of clown fu
Troy did an absolutely amazing job.
"Always on my Mind" is a perfect song for Batman and Joker
By who?
***** I guess it depends on the genres of music you like since it's been covered by just about everyone.
+Juan Salinas Fair point... What genre would fit Joker? To me, he's like a rock or a metal kind of guy.
***** Not to me. Well there's different Jokers, but I don't think rock would fit the majority of them. Maybe Leto's?
We know Cesar's Joker like Beach and Party music. Jack's liked pop and hip-hop. I like to think Heath's listened to classical, but that's just me.
I think it's safe to say that the Pet Shop Boys cover of Always on My Mind is playfulness and ethereal enough to it to fit the majority of them.
Like Hellboy, Joker is a Tom Waits fan.
I like how they show Batman at the end of this clip being incredibly disturbed by his encounter with Joker he truly never met someone so demented
That look on his face when he realizes he can manipulate her
this design of joker is better than the rest
When she said "I'm going to need more specifics" i was like
"she sounds familiar, kind of like Harl- Holy Shit!!!!!!!!"
Seriously? I actually saw that coming miles away, since the game was at the start.
+jeff peake The game is called "Arkham Origins". It is pretty obvious.
This was probably my favorite mission in all of the Arkham games. I'm not sure why but it was completely different than anything that the storyline entailed and wasn't essential to the story at all but it was strangely beautiful.
That scene with the Joker beating up people in that bar...it's set with "The Thieving Magpie".
I remember another scene of a beating under the Thieving Magpie.
A scene involving ultra-violence.
+Krwzprtt was it by chance from a clock work orange? or the parody of said scene in southpark?
Derek Furst Yes, it's a clockwork orange. Why else would I use the specific term "ultra-violence"?
Krwzprtt it's been too long for me to remember stuff like that
Derek Furst At least you understood the reference, so I guess that's enough.
+Krwzprtt A beautiful homage to that scene in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange in which Alex and his Droogs wipe the floor with Billy Boy and his Droogs.
Joker: Someone very, very special, but whose real name I don't even know yet!
Harley: My name's Harleen. Harleen Quinzel.
Joker: *I don't remember asking you a damn thing.*
perhaps Batman was the first and only person Joker could ever consider a best friend
Oul Troy Baker is a better joker than I thought, I'm pleasantly surprised.
harly was thinking he was in lover with her when really he was thinking about bat-ass lol
I love how at the 3:00 mark they word it so Harley thinks he's talking about her.
***** It's kinda heavily implied though that this is a 'bat-boner' as Adam West would have put it
this is alot like Frank Miller's Joker, how he's obsessed and even infatuated with batman, that they're fated to be together
4 year comment i know but a game on that comic would be awesome
Shouldn't this be called One Bad Day instead of The Killing Joke?
When I played this bit through the very first thing that came to my mind is The Killing Joke. It also helps that I don't know the One Bad Day graphic novel.
The killing joke was the title for the first batman comic so maybe that's why
This comes from the Batman Comic the Killing Joke, watch the animated movie on it and youll understand this way more
he tells jokes before killing victims and at the end he says one before Batman (presumably) kills him
BUT He is recounting the day where he became the Joker - His One Bad Day
I don't know why people are bitching on Batman Origins, The graphics are awesome, voice acting is great , and imo the joker looks better in origins than in asylum/city/knight.Still can't decide if Origins or Knight is my favorite batman game. (by the way I loved all the 4 arkham games)
I think rocksteady did it better
Origins and City are the best for ke
God Harley is such a pathetic character... She didn't even understand that he was talking about someone else. She deserves so much better.
This was before she was even Harley what're you talking about
and how tf is she supposed to know who he's talking about
itszaaaamzeh
No matter what name she goes by, she's still the same person.
Also, I'm not calling her pathetic for misunderstanding. I'm saying that it's pathetic that she fell in love with someone over a misunderstanding.
And, I think you think I'm talking about on a personal level. I'm not. I mean as a character. She's purposefully written to be pitiable and pathetic. It's sad and well written. I like it.
+TheDisarminghinkle She's no where near the same person here as Harley Quinn what are you talking about? She's not written pathetic she's written just as sane if not more insane than the joker.
itszaaaamzeh It's a part of her backstory. It's a part of her character. Are you also going to tell me that Bruce Wayne isn't Batman?
I love how the Joker is speaking honestly about his madness here. How often does that happen?
Joker got his rocks off talking about Batman to his therapist while she thought he was talking about her
joker got that accidentall rizz he wasnt even talking about her
it is kind of sad when harley thinks that the joker likes her but it was all batman that the joker think about
why aren't you laughing?!?!?!?
because I've heard it before
and I didn't laugh the first time
"I AM LAUGHIN ! ON HOW PATHETIC YOU ARE !"-Batman Beyond
The real Slim Shady good point
Batman gets the joke, it’s just not funny
i love the story of joker n bats. Completely opposite but yet the same. that’s what makes these 2 so great.
I gotta say, in DC, Joker and Batman are my favorites. I feel like they really show the two sides of a person. It really shows the strengths and the weaknesses of a person.
i like how they use the story as a psychological journey for the Joker here, rather than as an actual back story. To me the Joker not having a real origin story makes him even more interesting. I get tge mystery will make people want to come up with one, but i personally find it one mystery best enjoyed unsolved.
+Justin Biggs plus his origins were jokes. it makes the most sense to me that the identity of Batman's greatest foe is the one mystery forever illusive to him.
+Justin Biggs in the killing joke, the joker constantly creates new versions of his past to stop the pain and increase his madness
+mario alvarado yeah I think in a comic they call it "super sanity" he literally reinvents himself everyday
this isn't really the killing joke monologue, but this is my favorite sequence in the game
Tell me DEAR have you ever had a really bad day?
-0-0
HA HA HA HA
:3
?
Joker don't you mean? BAT day?? hohohoho
This is definitely the best and memorable part of the game. Why is this game is criminally underrated?! It’s really good!
The Joker after telling his - How you ever had One Bad Day? story.
D-Fens - lol.....noob.
nodinitiative "Falling Down" was a really underrated movie
Joker: Batman tho 😍👀😍👀😍.
Harley: OMG he loves me.
5:17 joker: bitch im not talking about you
In this scene we see the Joker describing in rich words his love for Batman and Haley thought he was talking about her, that's why she fell in love with him and became Harley Quinn. Joker's obsession with Batman made him crazy when they first met because he saw in Batman some of himself or even himself entirely. He felt lonely throughout his whole life, like he couldn't relate to anyone really and everything changed when he met Batman. HE LOVES BATMAN, hes obsessed with him and, believe it or not, he wants to help him in his own twisted fucked up way.
In this game, the way the Joker looks, reminds me of how Prince looked in "Batdance."
ikr, i thought it was just me.
vicious bloodbath naw. leto one is actually worse
vicious bloodbath I think he's supposed to, that's how he looked in the comic.
when he said 'whose name i dont know yet' and she replied with her one
05:06 - I was always sure that when Joker talked about "someone very special but whose name I don't even know yet" he was actually talking about Batman but Harley thought he was referring to her.
Interesting to see things from Joker's perspective for a change.
Poor Harley, She through that Joker was talking about her.
I like how Joker won’t let nobody kill Batman and Batman won’t let Joker kill himself. They really understand each other.
My guy is literally a terrorist and STILL has more rizz than half of us.
He’s a terrorrizz
This scene is better than the Joker 2 movie 🤣
This proves video games are art.
This game is so God damn beautiful. Such magnificent animation in the cutscenes
When you're a hopeless romantic and you think someone is talking sweet about you but they actually mean that guy in tights dressed as a bat
This makes me feel.... sympathy for the Joker :)
No not really because he was just saying how much he really likes Batman and he was just confusing Harley. Also, when Joker said "I don't even know their name." Harley said her name thinking that he is talking about her. If Joker said no I am talking about the Batman that is different, but he didn't meaning it was all on purpose and was a clever psychopathic set up so lol I have no empathy for Joker. He knows what he is doing and since Joker is so unpredictable he could really be lying about his back story some people think he is lying when they gave him a actual origin story since of course Joker is very unpredictable.
Davion Banks but the way he speaks..... It's beautiful and it makes so much sense
@@lmk69 no
@@xeox4280 When you find a comment you made 5 years ago 😂
Harley thought Joker was talking about her, when really he was talking about Batman...
*HARSH*
I realize that it's rushed for the sake of saving the game from filler... But still, where did Harley get her Psych degree? 5 minutes of calm talking undoes years of study and practice? hahaha.
Love is crazy mang.
Bakesale59
I think it was said that she didn't really actually earn her degree in a totally legit manner and often relied on her looks to get what she wanted. (citation needed)
newphew92 perhaps. I've honestly never read an origin in the comics for her. Plenty of New 52 and Suicide Squad under my belt with her, but the animated series is the only origin I'm familiar with, and I haven't seen that in years.
Bakesale59
Dont think of Origins as truly canon. More like a retelling of events from an unreliable narrator. Neither Paul Dini nor Sefton Hill had anything to do with this game, and thats sad since their Arkamverse was Batman close to perfection.
Im pretty sure the only reason Origins was made was because Warner Bros wanted to capitalize more on the previous games, and wasn´t willing to wait the 4 years development would take to the next generation. The writers on this game was from Assasin´s Creed, who shit on their own story material for every new game. the director was your average sandbox dude. The entire game was a cash-grab
CurseCreep Rocksteady confirmed that AO is canon. But yes, it wasn't initialy planned to be made and WB ordered a prequel game because AK took so long.
Troy Baker does a good job as joker but it's very irritating because I know it's not the Joker
agree
what?
Since you can tell it's not Mark Hamill it's very irritating
+Profajl Nejm how?
Because mark Hamil is like the godfather of the Joker voice!
Coming next year is the animated version of The Killing Joke that we have all been waiting for
Oof
What Joker talks about reminds me of the Joker movie
My favorite segment of origins, and we didn’t even need it in the story for it to be a full game, let alone to be necessary at all
3:05 Do you know that you can through the fire with no harm? Yes, it is! Because all this in Joker's mind.
why does it make a wet sound when harley moves her hand down and the joker smiles ahahhaa
+Sped Limes
That's just the sound of his leathery skin folding/stretching as he smiles.
Velno Onlev yeah i guessed that, yuk
+Sped Limes I thought he was getting some head.
+Random Guy xDD gotem
+Sped Limes Dat Harley pussy was soaking.
Theoretically speaking, what would happen to The Joker if he took another dip in the vat of chemicals?
I'm pretty sure he's immune to toxins and chemicals
Good question, He'd look like.... Michael Jackson?
+cha5 lol
nothing actually
It happened before and he turned normal I think
I love this because you have no idea weather or not he's manipulating Harley or he's being honest and that's how he thinks
every one should know,
there’s nothing cruel as memory
what a bad joke