Don't forget I just communicate the lore! I DO NOT WRITE IT, IT'S MY JOB TO COVER IT (Not sure why, but people seem to blame me for it, especially when it comes to.. shoehorned-in lore) Scource: 10th Edition Custodes Codex Also quick note: Comments are set to strict for the YT algorithm, some 40k fans like to throw out some colourful language in the heat of discussion, so keep that in mind when communicating, it's not THAT hard.
So... you know the point of the blood games is to test the security of the defences and pretending to assassinate the Emperor? The video overblows it a bit but there's no way she would've actually destroyed Terra, it was just a different path to reaching the end goal of the blood games. Same end result, just different methods.
The point of the Blood Games is for the Custodian assigned to accomplish it to try to assassinate the Emperor by any means possible while the rest stop them, so that the Custodes can root out any vulnerabilities and better defend the Emperor and his Imperium. Seeing as killing Big E would roundly destroy Terra no matter how it's done, any truly successful Blood Games run would destroy the Imperium. Thankfully that's never happened, either because the plan failed (like it did here) or because the Custodian in question didn't take the shot that theoretically may have killed the Emperor.
Maybe that was the point of making a female custodian to begin with. After 10,000 years of attempts I believe the Custodes are getting out of ideas on how to challenge their own defenses, so they are now desperatelly trying to get different perspectives. If that was the plan It definitelly worked out, nobody had ever tried this one before.
@@moderndavinci6599 that is the thing with the Blood Games: they never go "till the end". They stop on the exact LAST SECOND, granting victory to the participant, and of course, a planning of countermeasures based on the victors strategy.
@@Jamhael1fine, but accidents happen. She got dangerously close and an accidental firing of the gun would have done it. I hope she messed with the torpedo to ensure it would be a dud...
If Big E could make superhumans but _couldn't_ make a more efficient menstrual cycle than bleeding and incredible moodswings all the time, he's a damn fraud.
I kinda hope the Custodes are sensible enough that the Exterminatus grade weapons they use in Blood Games are very convincing props or aren't armed and capable of actually going off. The point is to tag the Emperor and say "Killed" not actually kill him. Like the cyclonic torpedo doesn't explode the planet, but broadcasts "Cyclonic torpedo detonated in the palace. Invaders win."
I mean.... They fully release traitors, daemons, ect for these blood games so while it's hopefully not an actual exterminatus bomb it is still probably a live bomb lmao
I mean, if they made it up to the golden throne and got a blade to the emperor’s neck during the blood games I think they’d count that as a win. I don’t think they’re expected to actually try and go through with it so much as just see if they’d be able to
This proves why necron are superior. May trazyn add her to his collection. All hail the silent king. Also i feel bad for sisters of silence fans. You got snubbed once again.
This kind of thing is actually very common for custodes blood games. They will literally kill thousands of humans like its nothing, just for a 0.00001% increase in their ability to protect the emperor.
My biggest problem is her turning the guard who sold her out into a servitor…. He jsut proved himself loyal to the emporer above all else, why punish him like that if you can just move him to a different ship???
Because it is the grim dark of the 41st millennium. Do some thing wrong, get punished, do something right, get punished. Kinda like the 21st century too.
She didn’t. The captain who blindly followed her orders to bring an armed exterminatus weapon within teleport distance of the imperial palace was turned into a servitor. The comms officer who reported her was promoted to captain of the ship.
They’re just clarifying that this is indeed a retcon, and that female Custodes aren’t a new thing in-universe. This is par for the course. The Votann popped into existence out of nowhere not too long ago
Yeah, I'm good. I'm fine with sisters of silence. Sisters of battle are badass. Culexus assassins are rad. But a female custodes isnt really it. If one were possible, then it wouldn't be out of left field for a female space marine. They've opened the box and questions wont stop coming for why they dont exist.
Not really because the Lore of how custodes and space marine are build. Custodes : Human that is modified geneticly to Perfection. Like there is not really a restriction to who can became one. (Why The first Custodes has no female mainly because they are Noble son (because they are usually heir of the family) from Terra Warlord and that is loyal and adversary to the emporer. Like offering a symbol of loyalty to emperor. ) Space Marine : Human Augmented Super Soldier with gene seed according to the primarch. (Cant make Female space marine unless there is female primarch with female gene seed, maybe the missing 2 or Fabius Bile shit).
@marsha11str64 to add on your explanation -age difference: astartes start the procedure at around 8-12 years old, custodes at 6 MONTHS of Age -selection: astartes pass a screening test, custodes are all handpicked in the crib (and no, they are not all from noble families, but likely relatives are made noble to ensure future base materials were breed) -purpose: astartes are weapon meant to be throw away at the end (they are in universe considered human Just on paper) with Only the 1st and 2nd founding being given rigth of retirment, custodes would have guided humanity and elevated It (aka breed to improve humanity)
Not really. One Custodian tried to drop an orbital platform onto the Imperial Palace, and another released a Genestealer infestation onto the planet. This is actually quite tame.
It is a retcon when 1- Previous Codexes, including the 9th edition one, and Black Library books state that the Custodes were taken from *sons* of Terran nobles. References to "Children" or "Daughters" did not exist until a week ago. 2- More importantly, until now, we had dozens of named Custode characters and models who appear throughout the lore and tabletop that were always male. Meanwhile, other factions from quite early on were full of mixed gender presence, including the inquisition, officio assasinorum, ecclesiarchy, mechanicum, and the imperial guard. If indeed having females was the plan all along GW would have inserted them much sooner, not waited a decade. Add to this the fact that when the tabletop models rolled out no plans were made to include female designs or even female heads, which is an implicit admission of intention 3- Because of points 1 and 2, to pretend that this move is not motivated by modern-day politics is extremely disingenuous. You can like this change, you can if you want buy into the explanation of custodes being modified on a molecular level so regardless females can participate and survive the process compared to space Marines that are pumped full of androgynous hormones. But don't pretend this is not a retcon.
It has been stated that the writers wanted this change for over a decade and it was an EXECUTIVE that shot them down for over a decade. The writers have been leaving enough shit ambiguous for them to make it possible when the Executive that was stopping them is finally changed. These are the words from Aaron-Drembski Bowden, one of the main writers for Black Library and a massive Chaos fanboy.
The sisters in silence fill an entirely different role than the custodies They are the strongest blanks and the ultimate defense against psykers. They aren’t at the level of the custodes in terms of physical attributes
@@nomus1172 Oh, you mean like women aren't on the level of men in terms of physical attributes? So wasting resources making an objectively inferior Custodes makes no sense from a purely pragmatic standpoint considering the Custodesare meant to be the pinnacle of physical abilities? Huh. Also the Sisters of Silence are to the Custodes what the Sisters of Battle are to the Astartes. In other words, they're the closest thing to a Custodes any female should get in the lore. Noble _sons._ Not noble _children._
@noneofyourbusiness I’m about 4 months late in replying to you, but your post is so staggeringly dumb I just had to chip in. The failure rate for Custodes creation is astronomically high. It’s some absurd 1 in a 1000 chance of working. If you allow women into that recruitment pool, then bam, you have twice as many potentially viable candidates. Plus, the process remakes the person so completely that there’s no reason that a post-transformation female Custodes would be weaker than a male. There’s almost nothing left of their original body, and they only qualify as human in appearance alone. I imagine female Custodes would look just as hulked out without their armor as the men do.
@@bigtony4930 I don’t get why you’re going up to bat for GW. I understand why people are mad about the retcons and lore changes because they liked the old lore and had become used to it, but I don’t get why people such as yourself are so invested and angry with people not liking the new change, could you enlighten me?
@@kevinaustin51 He wasn't arguing against it, he was just annoyed at the other guy. I understand people are angry, but the Custodians are really the only faction where the change is valid and doesn't majorly break the lore. The Custodian creation process is vastly different to that of the Astartes, and because it's so different and doesn't use geneseed, I'm more surprised that people haven't questioned the possibility sooner. It's always been possible. Doesn't make the implementation any less stupid, but the fact of the matter is that it's not going to change anything.
That one? Probably not. But I hear one of the Blood Games did supposedly involve bringing a patriarch to Terra and letting it start a cult as a distraction.
By them adding this woman into the custodies like this destroys the whole premise of the sisters of silence as well as the sisters of battle. These women earn their place in the history of 40K, a perfect example, the sisters of battle have been told they cannot be corrupted while the space Marines have. When a sister of battle speaks in a room for a space Marines and primarks, everyone goes silent because she speaks with a purpose that can change the tide of worlds. The sisters of silence work so diligently to get the respect and seen as an equal by the custodies to a point that they said it themselves to them. And now you took that all away just to have a woman on there though. What was the point? Give me a primark then that's a woman. Also, you're already destroying the Lord.
You know Sisters of Battle have fallen to Chaos before, right? You're making every sister sound like a High Lord or something lol. They really aren't that important
@@damianwomack4668 just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people will not. Yes, if you are a demon God of course you can taint them but it takes a long time and actual effort. It's even set in the stories for them. So what are you talking about?
@@scasimir1000 Its not about not liking them, i like the SoB and SoS but you are still talking bullshit. And having female Custodes don´t put the others down.
So she made the classic blunder, leave her void shields off and be vulnerable to teleporter strikes? Even if the destroyer reached within firing range of terra, the cyclonic torpedo still has to survive overlapping orbital point defence systems, and still be slow enough to bypass planetary void shields without being zapped into the warp. Captain General Kitten would be disappointed
This isn't even the wildest plan that's been tried, so I can feel the disappointment. I mean, one guy decided to drop Genestealers onto Terra, which got far better results.
Imagine if it turns out that the Emperor of Mankind was actually a woman all along, and what we see now is just a puppet. It's like pouring gasoline on the fire. The "hold my codex" moment is yet to come.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh (and gender politics) as if it will not decay and fail you.
My question is, was she really willing to do that? She seems like a kinda shitty custodian considering how that would have killed the emperor too. Kinda defeats the purpose.
Custodes is gene crafting and precise manipulation, astartes is literally placing new organs into the body, also its a million times more invasive and dangerous than the custodian process due to also the trials, tell me as a matter of fact a woman can pull off either A spacewolf's trials or the black templars.. If she were a psyker I can accept it in a way through but im nearly sure none of those chapters accept em due to issues
Eh, I mean it makes more sense that a hand crafted superior product can be better controlled production than a mass stamped one. I do find it funny that the Palace Guard went from oiled up chip and Dale's dancers to bigger golder Space Marines. But the Sisters of Battle are basically hay, what about Space Marines with Boob plate.
lol get bent Sisters of Silence 😂 fans have been asking to merge them with Custodies for a long time as they work so closely together, and get them more models. But nope, let’s be lazy and just poof 💨 shit in.
Just waiting for them to say the Emperor has been a woman all along. The new Imperial truth is a DEI imperium and the custodes are now the rainbow guard.
I agree that the way they went about this lore is unsavory but your point on Big E sort of fails since he can appear however he wishes to and I'm pretty sure that's included taking the form of a woman at some point
To be fair the pretty sure only the Custodeans know about the blood games. And the navy I believe is who has the torpedoes. And the Imperium is nothing if not capable of losing entire planets (as in, where was that planets). So I could believe the Navy could lose a torpedo.
I mean, im happy for fem custodes....but can i have Lionel Johnson and the dark angels curb stomping Hive Fleet Leviathan? Like i need that. Give me the lion vs the Swarmlord
Im not really active with the lore of Wh40k, but can somebody tell me why there are female custodians? Weren't they only male custodians because of the geneseed or something like that?
The process that makes Custodes is different from the one that makes Astartes, the process for the later involves implanting organs made with the genetic data of the Primarcs, and there seems to be an issue that makes it non-compatible with females; Custodes on the other hand have a more "perfect" process that involves enhancing the candidates body and metabolism to "perfection"... but there wasn't an OUTRIGHT claim that "the process is not compatible with women"...
@@sagatlike3393 I'd like to add that this was a decision by Black Library, not Games Workshop. Apparently they wanted to do this for years and only just now got approval to go through with it.
No. Unlike the Custodians, there is no room for females. They've tried before. The Emperor gave it a shot and gave up immediately. The only one who's been successful is Bile, and that's because it's fucking Bile. The Geneseed is incompatible with female anatomy. That's just how it is. There is absolutely nothing stating that the Custodian process doesn't work on females.
On the subject of female custodes, I’d like to point out that Malcador suggested making the primarchs all female, so it would be possible to use the emperors geneseed to create female custodes, the whole process being tailored to each individual custodes also helps a lot lore-wise. But there couldn’t be female space marines because the process would twist their bodies to the point where they aren’t recognisably female.
Yeah, no. I don't like this. It challenges the established lore and the first story to introduce us to female custodians is someone who thought giving Holy Terra the exterminatus treatment would be a good idea for blood games. It's not interesting in the slightest, it's just dumb.
Buddy, Custodians have done worse in their blood games, like starting a fucking Genestealer infestation and dropping an Orbital Platform directly on the palace.
@@gwilym1991she did not. The crew that ratted on her were reported to have been promoted, while those complicit in her plan were punished, and none of it was carried out by or for her, but simply because of their actions during the blood games.
Out of all the things the company has done , This is the reasone they are going to shit for ?? They have done far worst (not to say this is bad) , or do I need to remind you of TTS
There won't be. Unlike the Astartes, the Custodians actually have enough blank space that female Custodians are possible. The reason Female Astartes aren't possible is because Geneseed explodes them. Custodes don't use Geneseed and are altered from infancy. Also, it took ten years of the writers asking to make female Custodes for it to finally happen. They apparently wanted female Custodians to be a thing since day one.
I like the concept but games workshop were so lazy about it like they were afraid of making the people that would have pissed their pants over it anyway mad so they didn’t put any real effort into it. Hopefully we’ll get better expanded lore and books in the future, but for now the lore is shoddy.
As someone on the outside of the 40k fandom, can someone explain the hate to me? I know the Custodes are men, but I don't know why. Is there a reason the geneseed or whatever shouldn't work for women?
Because in the last 30 years there has never been a single mention of a female space marine and boom. Magically existed the whole time. It’s a cash grab with complete disregard to the lore of Warhammer. Its just disrespectful to the fans and they are blocking people who are asking questions on twitter. That alone shows you how weak this decision was.
@@tinyHIPPOclips Blocking people is some weak ass shit but It sounds like there is nothing in the lore to make it impossible. So if I understand you people are mad because its some inclusiveness BS, but not because it contradicts existing lore. Or did she get retconned into a previously established story?
@@MGrey-qb5xzIncredible mask off sexism AND not understanding 40k lore? Double combo. Glad you’re outing yourself as a weirdo for the new guy to laugh at.
@@Brandonious15987It’s not into a specific story. People are made that it’s inclusiveness stuff, and a retcon. But these retcons happen all the time in 40k, so they’re mainly just mad that more women got added.
@@tinyHIPPOclips Custodians are not Space Marines. Custodians don't use Geneseed and were made before the Space Marines were and only really have ten years of real lore. Their previous 30 years of lore doesn't exist and what does exist explains that Custodians back during the day were literally just weaker Space Marines. The Custodian creation process is completely different to the Space Marine creation process.
Don't forget I just communicate the lore! I DO NOT WRITE IT, IT'S MY JOB TO COVER IT (Not sure why, but people seem to blame me for it, especially when it comes to.. shoehorned-in lore)
Scource: 10th Edition Custodes Codex
Also quick note: Comments are set to strict for the YT algorithm, some 40k fans like to throw out some colourful language in the heat of discussion, so keep that in mind when communicating, it's not THAT hard.
That's fucked sorry man
THIS IS YOUR FAULT
This is your fault
Lol. No worries. When someone photoshops Caiaphus Caine's face on an Adeptus Sororitas body, you'll get the blame for that too
COMMISAR(I CAN'T SPELL) BLAST HIS COCK OFF
Ahh yes by Exterminatusing Terra you destroy the Imperium……such a great Blood Games run lol
Blood games any% speedrun
@@lokensicarius9347Guard the Emperor, not the Imperium. Yeah?
So... you know the point of the blood games is to test the security of the defences and pretending to assassinate the Emperor? The video overblows it a bit but there's no way she would've actually destroyed Terra, it was just a different path to reaching the end goal of the blood games. Same end result, just different methods.
The point of the Blood Games is for the Custodian assigned to accomplish it to try to assassinate the Emperor by any means possible while the rest stop them, so that the Custodes can root out any vulnerabilities and better defend the Emperor and his Imperium. Seeing as killing Big E would roundly destroy Terra no matter how it's done, any truly successful Blood Games run would destroy the Imperium. Thankfully that's never happened, either because the plan failed (like it did here) or because the Custodian in question didn't take the shot that theoretically may have killed the Emperor.
As if no one ever thought of using exterminatus on Terra. It's just bad writing just to add a strong and independent woman.
smells like heresy
Facts
“It was just a prank dude!”
The prank in question:
I wonder how many Custodes before thought to try this and were like "no that's crazy" and then she's just like "but what if..."
Maybe that was the point of making a female custodian to begin with. After 10,000 years of attempts I believe the Custodes are getting out of ideas on how to challenge their own defenses, so they are now desperatelly trying to get different perspectives. If that was the plan It definitelly worked out, nobody had ever tried this one before.
I think they're taking it a bit far...
Pros: You win the Blood Games! Congratulations!
Cons: You lost Terra. And killed the Emperor. And Humanity. And the galaxy. Whomp.
@@moderndavinci6599 that is the thing with the Blood Games: they never go "till the end".
They stop on the exact LAST SECOND, granting victory to the participant, and of course, a planning of countermeasures based on the victors strategy.
@@Jamhael1fine, but accidents happen. She got dangerously close and an accidental firing of the gun would have done it. I hope she messed with the torpedo to ensure it would be a dud...
"it's Ma'amstodes"
You will not be missed ;)
Testosterone rises.
Seethe @@Ragnarok3435-x5w
@@Ragnarok3435-x5wmy money will be though.
@@Ragnarok3435-x5wbro calm down, it's just a joke
For her every month is a blood game.
Lmfao
If Big E could make superhumans but _couldn't_ make a more efficient menstrual cycle than bleeding and incredible moodswings all the time, he's a damn fraud.
Horus was right about everything.
No he wasn't
GW was chaos all along
I kinda hope the Custodes are sensible enough that the Exterminatus grade weapons they use in Blood Games are very convincing props or aren't armed and capable of actually going off. The point is to tag the Emperor and say "Killed" not actually kill him.
Like the cyclonic torpedo doesn't explode the planet, but broadcasts "Cyclonic torpedo detonated in the palace. Invaders win."
I mean.... They fully release traitors, daemons, ect for these blood games so while it's hopefully not an actual exterminatus bomb it is still probably a live bomb lmao
But what would be the fun in that?😅
It sounds like a CSGO match and I love it
@@SonsOfLorgarspoken like a true heretic
I mean, if they made it up to the golden throne and got a blade to the emperor’s neck during the blood games I think they’d count that as a win. I don’t think they’re expected to actually try and go through with it so much as just see if they’d be able to
As soon as I heard first female Custodes……”IM SORRY WHAT.”
Well it was never stated they are all male and each one is "hand crafted" no big Deal in having a few female ones.
@@graysun9108well... It depends on how you interpret "sons", but sure
@@graysun9108They’re called Brotherhood of Demigods
@@graysun9108 they were all men **men** up until that horrible fuck up of a retcon
@@graysun9108 Countless codex and horus heresy books have always mentioned Custodes being "Sons" unless you intepret Sons differently.
This proves why necron are superior. May trazyn add her to his collection. All hail the silent king. Also i feel bad for sisters of silence fans. You got snubbed once again.
Roflmao! Now THIS! Is pod racing! 😂😏
Prank’em trazyn
The Silent King? Oh, you mean the Silent QUEEN. GW said she was always the Queen.
maybe if there were male sisters of silence GW would give them lore.
We sisters of silence fans can never catch a break...
What are the writers at GW smoking to create such nonsense?!
It's Blood Games, it's been around for ages
The other custodes: "Eh. Women. ☕️"
The Message.
I thought she just existed, but that whole plot to destroy Terra is some of the craziest stuff I’ve heard from GW
This kind of thing is actually very common for custodes blood games. They will literally kill thousands of humans like its nothing, just for a 0.00001% increase in their ability to protect the emperor.
The Blood Games are the training and planning of the Custodes to defend Terra.
And believe me, they've done worse...
@@Jamhael1 yea to be fair, if the custodies weren't prepare to stop that Terra would have fallen millenia ago
@@AnonOmis1000 oooh yes.
@@SonsOfLorgaryeah I want to know
I don’t consider this canon, even if it’s GW
"You will like female Custodes and you will be happy."
Games Workshop is watching you
Death by cringe
OK bye
Yeah that’s great but WHEN WE GONNA SEE GHAZ KRUMP ANGRON? Dammit I need an update on this big Waaagh! 😂
Yup, you finally empowered the fanfic writers and doomed us all 😂
Try W40k: I can't believe it's not HERESY edition.
All I heard was: “Purge me Imperium, purge me and don’t stop purging me!”
Kinky
Maybe Horus was right
There have always been female Orks!!!
I remember when Orks were red, and were marsupials. So yes, there were female orks, until there weren't.
Changing the LORE is heresy
Custodes has no women,Custodes doesn't need a woman. - Shield-Captain Boromirus Basedius.
Ha! GAYYYYYYYY! - anonymous Guardsman
My biggest problem is her turning the guard who sold her out into a servitor…. He jsut proved himself loyal to the emporer above all else, why punish him like that if you can just move him to a different ship???
Because apparently she’s petty asf?
Because it is the grim dark of the 41st millennium. Do some thing wrong, get punished, do something right, get punished. Kinda like the 21st century too.
I mean at the end of the day custodes or not shes still just a female 😂
Women are petty🤷🏾♂️ thats what we get now
She didn’t. The captain who blindly followed her orders to bring an armed exterminatus weapon within teleport distance of the imperial palace was turned into a servitor. The comms officer who reported her was promoted to captain of the ship.
Minor correction. GW said WE are the crazy ones actually and there have been female custodes the entire time.
They want to make us angry and its working. Let their franchise burn.
They’re just clarifying that this is indeed a retcon, and that female Custodes aren’t a new thing in-universe. This is par for the course. The Votann popped into existence out of nowhere not too long ago
@@epicwaba6424 Still waiting for there to be an actual Votann book.
There have always been female custodes, but they never accomplished anything worth mentioning. Got it.
Right after this codex got released, Custodes winrate plummeted like no tomorrow. GW fucked this up worse than ever.
Ah, yes, the Blood Games to check the palace's inside defenses... Just bomb the planet 😂😂😂
I mean, if you destroy the planet you destroy the palace.
"There have always been female Custodes."
Nice try tzneech
I think the character is a metaphor for what the retcon is doing to the franchise.
Yeah, I'm good. I'm fine with sisters of silence. Sisters of battle are badass. Culexus assassins are rad. But a female custodes isnt really it. If one were possible, then it wouldn't be out of left field for a female space marine. They've opened the box and questions wont stop coming for why they dont exist.
Not really because the Lore of how custodes and space marine are build.
Custodes : Human that is modified geneticly to Perfection. Like there is not really a restriction to who can became one.
(Why The first Custodes has no female mainly because they are Noble son (because they are usually heir of the family) from Terra Warlord and that is loyal and adversary to the emporer. Like offering a symbol of loyalty to emperor. )
Space Marine : Human Augmented Super Soldier with gene seed according to the primarch.
(Cant make Female space marine unless there is female primarch with female gene seed, maybe the missing 2 or Fabius Bile shit).
It’s less of a leap with custodes since they’re hand crafted and not based on geneseed
@marsha11str64 to add on your explanation
-age difference: astartes start the procedure at around 8-12 years old, custodes at 6 MONTHS of Age
-selection: astartes pass a screening test, custodes are all handpicked in the crib (and no, they are not all from noble families, but likely relatives are made noble to ensure future base materials were breed)
-purpose: astartes are weapon meant to be throw away at the end (they are in universe considered human Just on paper) with Only the 1st and 2nd founding being given rigth of retirment, custodes would have guided humanity and elevated It (aka breed to improve humanity)
Thats the point they likely wanna phase that in as well, this is just part 1
@@malachirobinson7323
I mean best time to add female Space Marines would have been with the Primaris.
You mean to tell me that no other custodes in all the long years since the first blood game didn’t think to try this? Lmao ok
Yea olny a woman can bring such destruction
Not really. One Custodian tried to drop an orbital platform onto the Imperial Palace, and another released a Genestealer infestation onto the planet. This is actually quite tame.
It is a retcon when
1- Previous Codexes, including the 9th edition one, and Black Library books state that the Custodes were taken from *sons* of Terran nobles. References to "Children" or "Daughters" did not exist until a week ago.
2- More importantly, until now, we had dozens of named Custode characters and models who appear throughout the lore and tabletop that were always male. Meanwhile, other factions from quite early on were full of mixed gender presence, including the inquisition, officio assasinorum, ecclesiarchy, mechanicum, and the imperial guard. If indeed having females was the plan all along GW would have inserted them much sooner, not waited a decade. Add to this the fact that when the tabletop models rolled out no plans were made to include female designs or even female heads, which is an implicit admission of intention
3- Because of points 1 and 2, to pretend that this move is not motivated by modern-day politics is extremely disingenuous.
You can like this change, you can if you want buy into the explanation of custodes being modified on a molecular level so regardless females can participate and survive the process compared to space Marines that are pumped full of androgynous hormones. But don't pretend this is not a retcon.
It has been stated that the writers wanted this change for over a decade and it was an EXECUTIVE that shot them down for over a decade. The writers have been leaving enough shit ambiguous for them to make it possible when the Executive that was stopping them is finally changed. These are the words from Aaron-Drembski Bowden, one of the main writers for Black Library and a massive Chaos fanboy.
and there it goes the importance of the sisters of silence, well at last is not tau earth caste
The sisters in silence fill an entirely different role than the custodies
They are the strongest blanks and the ultimate defense against psykers.
They aren’t at the level of the custodes in terms of physical attributes
@@nomus1172
Oh, you mean like women aren't on the level of men in terms of physical attributes? So wasting resources making an objectively inferior Custodes makes no sense from a purely pragmatic standpoint considering the Custodesare meant to be the pinnacle of physical abilities?
Huh.
Also the Sisters of Silence are to the Custodes what the Sisters of Battle are to the Astartes. In other words, they're the closest thing to a Custodes any female should get in the lore.
Noble _sons._ Not noble _children._
@@noneofyourbusiness2437Took the words right out of my mouth.
@noneofyourbusiness I’m about 4 months late in replying to you, but your post is so staggeringly dumb I just had to chip in. The failure rate for Custodes creation is astronomically high. It’s some absurd 1 in a 1000 chance of working. If you allow women into that recruitment pool, then bam, you have twice as many potentially viable candidates.
Plus, the process remakes the person so completely that there’s no reason that a post-transformation female Custodes would be weaker than a male. There’s almost nothing left of their original body, and they only qualify as human in appearance alone. I imagine female Custodes would look just as hulked out without their armor as the men do.
Random Custode “Hey aren’t the Blood games held in July? Why is Calladyce attacking in October?”
Calladyce: 😈
The forces of Tzeentch has infiltrated holy Terra.
Got to join the boys club and the first thing she tried to do was burn the club house down.
Imma say why we got sisters of battle so female spacemarine eqviluant and for the custodes we got the sisters of silence
I see that there is almost no limits to creating life in a tube
Judging by this horrible oversimplification and your pfp you know nothing of lore
@@Courier6FNVjudging by how you seem to be steamed about this, you don't either.
@@bigtony4930 I don’t get why you’re going up to bat for GW. I understand why people are mad about the retcons and lore changes because they liked the old lore and had become used to it, but I don’t get why people such as yourself are so invested and angry with people not liking the new change, could you enlighten me?
@@kevinaustin51 He wasn't arguing against it, he was just annoyed at the other guy. I understand people are angry, but the Custodians are really the only faction where the change is valid and doesn't majorly break the lore. The Custodian creation process is vastly different to that of the Astartes, and because it's so different and doesn't use geneseed, I'm more surprised that people haven't questioned the possibility sooner. It's always been possible. Doesn't make the implementation any less stupid, but the fact of the matter is that it's not going to change anything.
Valdor seeing what his Custodes are up to: *WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS*?!
So... that Genestealer Cult on Terra... you don't think that was just a custode who was trying to win the Blood Games, do you?
Nah - the Custodes can be ruthless in their duties, but they are not STUPID.
Wouldn't surprise me if one went to another planet, yoinked a brood and dropped it on terra as a distraction for their run
@@Jamhael1 Um... hate to break it to you, but a Custodian has actually done this at one point.
That one? Probably not.
But I hear one of the Blood Games did supposedly involve bringing a patriarch to Terra and letting it start a cult as a distraction.
Surprised a cobra class a small destroyer has cyclonic torpedos
Custodussy is now canon.
By them adding this woman into the custodies like this destroys the whole premise of the sisters of silence as well as the sisters of battle. These women earn their place in the history of 40K, a perfect example, the sisters of battle have been told they cannot be corrupted while the space Marines have. When a sister of battle speaks in a room for a space Marines and primarks, everyone goes silent because she speaks with a purpose that can change the tide of worlds. The sisters of silence work so diligently to get the respect and seen as an equal by the custodies to a point that they said it themselves to them. And now you took that all away just to have a woman on there though. What was the point? Give me a primark then that's a woman. Also, you're already destroying the Lord.
You know Sisters of Battle have fallen to Chaos before, right? You're making every sister sound like a High Lord or something lol. They really aren't that important
@@damianwomack4668 just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people will not. Yes, if you are a demon God of course you can taint them but it takes a long time and actual effort. It's even set in the stories for them. So what are you talking about?
@@scasimir1000 Its not about not liking them, i like the SoB and SoS but you are still talking bullshit. And having female Custodes don´t put the others down.
Ah yes the most recent edition to GW fuck ups to their own lore.
HERESY!
So she made the classic blunder, leave her void shields off and be vulnerable to teleporter strikes? Even if the destroyer reached within firing range of terra, the cyclonic torpedo still has to survive overlapping orbital point defence systems, and still be slow enough to bypass planetary void shields without being zapped into the warp. Captain General Kitten would be disappointed
This isn't even the wildest plan that's been tried, so I can feel the disappointment. I mean, one guy decided to drop Genestealers onto Terra, which got far better results.
Imagine if it turns out that the Emperor of Mankind was actually a woman all along, and what we see now is just a puppet. It's like pouring gasoline on the fire. The "hold my codex" moment is yet to come.
Who let them cook
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh (and gender politics) as if it will not decay and fail you.
My question is, was she really willing to do that? She seems like a kinda shitty custodian considering how that would have killed the emperor too. Kinda defeats the purpose.
Guilliman: move. Get out of my way! 😅
Interesting that the artisan custodes creation process works on women unlike Astartes "mass production" .
Custodes is gene crafting and precise manipulation, astartes is literally placing new organs into the body, also its a million times more invasive and dangerous than the custodian process due to also the trials, tell me as a matter of fact a woman can pull off either A spacewolf's trials or the black templars.. If she were a psyker I can accept it in a way through but im nearly sure none of those chapters accept em due to issues
Eh, I mean it makes more sense that a hand crafted superior product can be better controlled production than a mass stamped one.
I do find it funny that the Palace Guard went from oiled up chip and Dale's dancers to bigger golder Space Marines.
But the Sisters of Battle are basically hay, what about Space Marines with Boob plate.
Yeah, yeah cool and all but where is Ghazkull taking on Angron cause he killed his best enemy?
Εmperor TTS finding this absolutely livid.
You can be bothered by the sudden appearance of a female but the plan is ballsy as fuck and im entertained. 😂.
lol get bent Sisters of Silence 😂 fans have been asking to merge them with Custodies for a long time as they work so closely together, and get them more models. But nope, let’s be lazy and just poof 💨 shit in.
I'm so glad they retconned the custodes instead of improving the sisters of silence who directly work with said faction as its female counterparts.
Lets start the counter for how long it takes for gw to say there always were brothers of silence.
Just waiting for them to say the Emperor has been a woman all along. The new Imperial truth is a DEI imperium and the custodes are now the rainbow guard.
You are ridiculous
It's not as bad as you are making it out to be.
Bro, he is everything. Emperor has no biological sex as a matter of fact.
Do you know that the Emperor can show himself like a Giant dude in golden armor, scientist or a woman he doesn't really have a form
I agree that the way they went about this lore is unsavory but your point on Big E sort of fails since he can appear however he wishes to and I'm pretty sure that's included taking the form of a woman at some point
"How did you figure out my scheme?"
"We counted the missiles... Like, they can destroy a planet, we'd keep them under watch, you should know this."
To be fair the pretty sure only the Custodeans know about the blood games. And the navy I believe is who has the torpedoes. And the Imperium is nothing if not capable of losing entire planets (as in, where was that planets). So I could believe the Navy could lose a torpedo.
"You could've killed the Emperor!"
"It was just a blood game, brother custodes."
Oh no I hope I don’t get stepped on for my blatant heresy🥺
Erda is lurking around the palace in the shadows.
Finally golden, Emporer blessed, Custodes mommies... we eating good boys.
Girls?!?
I wanted to see MEN!!
really lame
At least shes done something interesting and isn't an entirely unfitting character that i expected the femstodes to be when they added her
I mean, im happy for fem custodes....but can i have Lionel Johnson and the dark angels curb stomping Hive Fleet Leviathan? Like i need that. Give me the lion vs the Swarmlord
Yeah, I don't care about any of this. I just want the resident badass to start slaughtering shit. Bring back the First Legion, dammit!
Hell of an entrance
Some of the laziest writing from games workshop. Tbh I care about the female custodians but this codex was ass
Im not really active with the lore of Wh40k, but can somebody tell me why there are female custodians? Weren't they only male custodians because of the geneseed or something like that?
The process that makes Custodes is different from the one that makes Astartes, the process for the later involves implanting organs made with the genetic data of the Primarcs, and there seems to be an issue that makes it non-compatible with females; Custodes on the other hand have a more "perfect" process that involves enhancing the candidates body and metabolism to "perfection"... but there wasn't an OUTRIGHT claim that "the process is not compatible with women"...
@thegamesresearcher ah okay, thanks, friend.
What the researcher said.
The first female custodes THAT WE KNOW OF. Apparently, GW has confirmed that female custodes have always been a thing inside the lore.
Gw will say and write anything as long as it helps selling more toys from their range.
@@sagatlike3393 I'd like to add that this was a decision by Black Library, not Games Workshop. Apparently they wanted to do this for years and only just now got approval to go through with it.
First Golden Girl really said ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Oh boy, this comment section is going to be incredibly respectful and is not going to go to complete shit immediately!
This is so lame. This means we get femal astartes and prob primarch...
No more primarchs, we saw what happened last time
No. Unlike the Custodians, there is no room for females. They've tried before. The Emperor gave it a shot and gave up immediately. The only one who's been successful is Bile, and that's because it's fucking Bile. The Geneseed is incompatible with female anatomy. That's just how it is. There is absolutely nothing stating that the Custodian process doesn't work on females.
Custodes booba
I HATE GOONERS
I HATE GONNERS
I HATE GOONERS
I HATE GOONERS
Farewell 40k it was good while it lasted. I hope cavill pulls out of the project. It’s the Witcher all over again.
Goodbye, you won't be missed
@@tomwilliams3541You are not even from the hobby 😂
You'll be back in a week, don't deny it.
Bruh i dont like it either but its not world breaking
On the subject of female custodes, I’d like to point out that Malcador suggested making the primarchs all female, so it would be possible to use the emperors geneseed to create female custodes,
the whole process being tailored to each individual custodes also helps a lot lore-wise.
But there couldn’t be female space marines because the process would twist their bodies to the point where they aren’t recognisably female.
Pretty much. Even if they were to survive the augments, the Geneseed would fuck them up.
How to win a bloodgame EXTERMINATUS
Tzeentch! Why? Why to mess with our time line.
Hopefully she succeeds in destroying Terra. Aint no way did they think a female Custodes was gonna be a good idea 😂
Imagine if she finished her blood games
Calladayce: Hey everyone I won guys I won! (Everyones dead and Terra is destroyed) Guys?
Yeah, no. I don't like this. It challenges the established lore and the first story to introduce us to female custodians is someone who thought giving Holy Terra the exterminatus treatment would be a good idea for blood games. It's not interesting in the slightest, it's just dumb.
Do you think she was going to pull the trigger. The point of the blood games is to expose weaknesses. They're training exercises, dummy.
Buddy, Custodians have done worse in their blood games, like starting a fucking Genestealer infestation and dropping an Orbital Platform directly on the palace.
HERESY!
We can all agree this is heresy some kind of creation of tzeench
I'm pretty sure her crew snitched her cause they even knew how batshit crazy her plan was.
@@gwilym1991she did not. The crew that ratted on her were reported to have been promoted, while those complicit in her plan were punished, and none of it was carried out by or for her, but simply because of their actions during the blood games.
I wonder why they made the first female custode wanting to exterminatus all of terra, seemingly making her unhinged too.
I was there the day GW pandered to Black rock and esg
Since when custodes recruit women?
Strange sons and brotherhood these days...
Welp 40k gone to 💩💩💩💩💩💩
Out of all the things the company has done , This is the reasone they are going to shit for ?? They have done far worst (not to say this is bad) , or do I need to remind you of TTS
A custodes
THAT'S A WOMAN!?
At this point. She might as well succeeded to get this over with
RIPs to my SoS gang. Soon there will be Femmarines so watch out SoB fans.
(Walks to Abbadon) "Here. It's the keys to the Imperial Palace. Do...Do whatever you want, cause I'm done man. Go full Archaon."
There won't be. Unlike the Astartes, the Custodians actually have enough blank space that female Custodians are possible. The reason Female Astartes aren't possible is because Geneseed explodes them. Custodes don't use Geneseed and are altered from infancy. Also, it took ten years of the writers asking to make female Custodes for it to finally happen. They apparently wanted female Custodians to be a thing since day one.
I lose a part of my love for warhammer every day and this has killed it further
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THAT GW ADD WOMEN IT ALWAYS END WITH A CATASTROPHE (no offense to Female Warhammer 40k fand btw :3👍)
I like the concept but games workshop were so lazy about it like they were afraid of making the people that would have pissed their pants over it anyway mad so they didn’t put any real effort into it. Hopefully we’ll get better expanded lore and books in the future, but for now the lore is shoddy.
As someone on the outside of the 40k fandom, can someone explain the hate to me? I know the Custodes are men, but I don't know why. Is there a reason the geneseed or whatever shouldn't work for women?
Because in the last 30 years there has never been a single mention of a female space marine and boom. Magically existed the whole time. It’s a cash grab with complete disregard to the lore of Warhammer. Its just disrespectful to the fans and they are blocking people who are asking questions on twitter. That alone shows you how weak this decision was.
@@tinyHIPPOclips Blocking people is some weak ass shit but It sounds like there is nothing in the lore to make it impossible. So if I understand you people are mad because its some inclusiveness BS, but not because it contradicts existing lore. Or did she get retconned into a previously established story?
@@MGrey-qb5xzIncredible mask off sexism AND not understanding 40k lore? Double combo. Glad you’re outing yourself as a weirdo for the new guy to laugh at.
@@Brandonious15987It’s not into a specific story. People are made that it’s inclusiveness stuff, and a retcon. But these retcons happen all the time in 40k, so they’re mainly just mad that more women got added.
@@tinyHIPPOclips Custodians are not Space Marines. Custodians don't use Geneseed and were made before the Space Marines were and only really have ten years of real lore. Their previous 30 years of lore doesn't exist and what does exist explains that Custodians back during the day were literally just weaker Space Marines. The Custodian creation process is completely different to the Space Marine creation process.