If I remember correctly Davey Havoc ripped his vocal chords after sing the sorrow so that's why the sound changed a lot. I still like their new and old stuff. As far as alkaline trio I love the ep where they traded songs with Hot water music, bleeder was done so well
Old AFI show is the most viceral thing I've ever experienced... Strengh throught wounding, 500 persons sing in unison through our bleeding we are one... I've never experienced anything this powerfull ever...
The guitarist and bassist would do gang vocals, but they could always count on the crowd to do em as well. Their live shows in this era were absolutely legendary.
I saw AFI in 99 two days before Halloween at galaxy in Dallas. They and Hot Water Music opened for I think Madball or another nyc hardcore band. The fucking place went totally batshit. One of the best live shows I’ve ever seen. Lost a shoe in the pit
They started out as a jokey punk band. Then just for the 2nd and 3rd album they thought they were hardcore. Hence changing the name from A Buncha Fucking Idiots to Asking For It (such a hardcore band name).
YES ! Super stoked you chose to review this one. Black Sails in the Sunset and Art of Drowning are 2 of my favorite records of all time, let alone AFI records. Hunter is an absolute beast and gives an incredible live performance.
I love old AFI. The period of Black Sails, All Hallows to Art of Drowning is incredible. If you haven't seen any videos of them playing these songs live from around that time, please check them out, insane energy.
I saw them in Arizona at The Last Damn Show in 02 or 03 i think? Davey jumped into the crowd and stood on my friends neck/shoulder for almost the whole set
Thank you Mark!!! AFI was my favorite band for nearly 20 years, and I still love them to this day. So diverse in sound, amazing songwriting, and just good dudes all around. Love that they still take hardcore bands or affiliation with them on the road.
I was lucky enough to see them in Seattle during this era of AFI....and yes the other members helped with the vocals, but most of the audience knew to join in as well.
The first time I heard AFI was at a hardcore festival in D.C. The crowd went absolutely insane during their set. I swear people were stacked four high in front of the stage. I knew right away that they were just different. This sound mixed with the goth esthetic was quite the first impression.
Glad to see this song getting love. AFI has lots of great bass focus songs. Another one you should check out AFI Death of Seasons from Sing the Sorrow.
Absolutely loved this reaction. AFI was my favorite band in high school and I still to this day at the age of 40 have them in heavy rotation in my playlists. First time I saw them live, I think it was ‘98, they were opening for Good Riddance.
Punk from this era was all about being an audio rollercoaster from start to finish. No real meter changes, unless needed, but tempo would flex from being focused on the back-beat to on-beat. And that's what's made some of the best stuff. Lightning fast chord changes, varied by whatever lead voice in a 3-5 piece lineup they had. Making magic out of simplicity is the name of the game in punk and old AFI is a prime example.
So happy to see this today! Great example of that early/mid period AFI, especially hunter’s style from that era. Watching a live version might help you hear or see it better. As you can tell by comments, the eras of this band can be very polarizing, they essentially changed sounds every album to the point where it may even be hard to recognize who it is - I’ve loved all of the growth and evolution (though 99-2003 is hard to beat). For a less busy/fast picking style and maybe a more delicate/melodic style, I’d suggest listening to some stuff from the Sing the Sorrow sessions (now the world), Decemberunderground (endlessly she said), crash love (too late for gods), or Blood (Aurelia). Hunter is truly an amazing bass player.
Need to check out the Vandals. Great band lots of energy and fun. Amazing bass line in the song "moneys not an issue" love the videos and how much you've taken to punk keep it up 💪🏻
Dude. Seeing your personality change over the past year, you doing theae videos, you've really taken it by the horns and now that you are getting into punk rock, it's really awesome. I wish all my metal head friends loved punk rock as much as I do. You have zero elitist vibes and just get the music and understand why it is good!
One of the most epic live shows I've ever seen was AFI probably around 1997. Davey was hanging from the rafters at the beginning of the show. The energy they had was unreal. Goosebumps.
To answer your question about the gang vocals, they always invited a bunch of friends over to the recording sessions to create the chorus of voices. This was really common in the scene back in the day. What a lot of fun that time was!
That album was a huge part of my childhood/early adulthood. What a ride that was. Edit --> I was 17 when it dropped. I wouldn't say childhood. But then, if you ask my family and friends about that time... 😅
It's so funny. I didn't really think about it until NOFX called it out. After that song, I really picked up on all of AFI's woahs, and it actually starting annoying me. It's hard to hear AFI (at least old AFI) now.
I was lucky enough to see AFI on this Art of Drowning tour my sophomore year of high school around Halloween when they played my hometown of Springfield Illinois
Saw them live at a small club in Pittsburgh called Laga in October 2000 right after this album came out. They pretty much played the whole album start to finish and it was nothing short of a spiritual experience with the entire place chorusing the Whoa oh oh's
I think I first heard AFI on an older Punk-O-Rama cd (or some compilation) and then bought my first AFI album (BSITS) around the Black Sails days. Being in Highschool listening to Black Sails and Art of Drowning was like a perfect storm for teen angst : ). Hunter has done a series of live play throughs (like Fat Mike), can't remember if he did Sacrifice Theory though.
Another old school one you should check out from what I consider their best album (Black Sails in the Sunset) is Narrative of Soul Against Soul. Hunter's bass is pretty forward in that one.
For those gang vocals you are referring to, during live performances we the fans/ audience become the vocal chants. Davey the singer does a good job at incorporating us all to sing along when they are live.
@@northofnashira2575in the very end of the song, you can hear him playing the B string on a guitar. I always thought it was bass, but I believe it is an acoustic guitar probably plugged into an amp. Listen to the very last chords of the song because I swear there’s guitar chords but maybe I’m crazy
@@northofnashira2575 interesting… it just sounds way different compared to the they’ve actually gotten worse live version with the full band. We need Mike to come on TH-cam and settle the debate!
The group vocals are different live because while multiple members of the band sing, the crowd generally sings those parts as well. I saw them once where the power kept going out and everyone in the venue did half a song a cappella.
One of my favorite Independent Wrestlers, Kennedi Copeland uses AFI’s Miss Murder for her entrance music and the entire crowd sings her to the ring. Such an awesome experience.
You should check out Road to Recovery by Rufio. It has that punchy bass line intro that you would definitely enjoy. Also please Like the Angel by Rise Against!!
Saw AFI with The Distillers right after this album came out for $7. They joined Rancid on tour like a week later. Great time to be catching shows as a teen.
Have you gotten any requests for The Dead Milkmen? I never realized how good their bass lines were when I started listening to them in the mid 80’s. Surfin’ Cow has a really good bass line, and Bitchin’ Camaro has a cool walking bass line. Their most popular song is Punk Rock Girl. Thanks for teaching us so much.
AFI is top, It's one of the few bands I love despite changing generes many times. Their new stuff is also great, you should check out "Dulceria", from their latest album.
Just to answer your question - does everyone in the band sing - I was obsessed with AFI when this album came out and saw them in concert 4 times (including with Rancid at the Palladium, one of the greatest shows of my life). Yes, all three of the other members jump in on the mic during the live shows.
One of my favorite bands hunter the bassist and Jade the guitarist are a rare combination that have evolved together and it always works. I would request you check out victor wooten he's a dynamic bass player that slaps nad uses harmonics on bass
The old AFI songs were kinda just a chorus A and chorus B alternating with a bridge thrown in somewhere. They used a lot of oh’s and whoa’s. This is pretty well suited for small live venues where the band was sort of face to face with the crowd. With the simple structure and anthemic gang vocals the audience can be part of the live music experience, singing the chorus at the band. And with the song structure most of the song basically functions as a chorus except the bridge. The live shows are super engaging. Their formula has changed quite a bit over the years. Maybe partly because they don’t really play small venues anymore.
yes, all the WOA's (AFI were king of them) at the show the entire crowd would lunge toward the stage and scream them as loud as we could. davey would get to the stage apron, thrive off the energy, grab people in the crowd and give the mic to everyone. This album was an amazing era in AFI tours. nowadays its prob huge crowds and people on phones.
Was at an AFI show last year, wasn't a huge crowd at all, and most people toward the front were definitely going crazy and not on their phone, I know because I was as far up front as I could get. Was such an awesome experience, I got to touch Davey when he came out into the crowd and had us hold him up.
Great video as always! Another song that comes to mind for me when you talk about the role reversal idea of guitar and bass is Jenny Was a Friend of Mine by The Killers. If you check that song out, try to do the live version from Royal Albert Hall in 2009. Great stuff! It's been awhile since I've made any recommendations, but gonna throw a suggestion out for more Karnivool. New Day, Umbra, or Deadman would be great options, all from the same album as Goliath. And Chris Wolstenholme and Muse would be a good new band to listen to (live versions of Bliss live at The Mayan or Reapers from the Drones World Tour are both great with the bass mixed very well). Keep doing what you're doing!
If you wanna here the transition from this to Decemberunderground(album with miss murder), then I would recommend checking out the album Sing the Sorrow. Idk what i would suggest to showcase the bass tho
Happy to see you doing one of my favorite bands again! AFI was such a big part of my teen years. Davey Havok is also the person who made me realize I wasn't completely straight lol
I really love these in-depth analysis of "old" songs I listen to daily still to this day. AFI, as well as Tiger army always have a special place in my heart, such sweet memories! Check out Much the Same - Crying Wolf, speaking of old. This is the song that inspired me to play Bass like 20 years ago. Much the Same - Liar is also very fun to play. Also if you like AFI, Davey Havok, frontman of AFI is very close friends with "Nick13", frontman of Tiger Army, Nick13 is also featured on a lot of songs of AFI. Tiger Army is also very enjoyable to listen to as Bassist, Psychobilly music, the bassist uses an upright bass, producing a unique sound, also check them out!
Sick bro, a lot of AFI fans out here, Hunter has heaps of ripper bass parts. I agree the bass mixing sounds a little lost at times on these punk records. Great album 🎉
There’s such a divide in the AFI fans about if they evolved their sound or if they sold out or whatever.. but man I love every single album! You could check out anything from them and it all kills!! Can’t wait for what you’ve got next brother! Keep em coming 🙏🏻
“So, does everyone in this band sing? There has to be a live element to that to get those big group chants.” Back in those days, everyone in the venue would sing.
Such a great record! The last of their purely punk/hardcore records before the major label dive, ‘Sing the Sorrow’. Still also a great record though admittedly, I’d say their last really great record, just a different flavour, not as punk. I mentioned it on your last AFI vid, but it bares repeating; old AFI was one of (if not thee) best punk bands of the mid and late 90’s. They absolutely dominated the hardcore scene during this record and the shows were insane! I do truly miss those days…I’m happy they found major success, because they certainly deserved it, but I do sometimes wish they’d go on the road playing shitty little clubs and basements again, playing nothing but these old songs….but if they did, good luck getting into one.😅 Just goes to show how short lived the best times in a band’s history can be. A good reminder to catch these bands when they’re freshly dominating scenes, cause you just never know what you’re missing out on!
I have a four string, and a six string mini gitar, and im not good atveither but i love the sound of them and the the old rustic hamonica, of which i have eight that i know of, i love the ressonnencevthat they can bring, no good at any of them , but i do love the sounds that they cand bring, maybe im just dumb for loceing old things like that, and i dont know how to really corispond with you but if your gereing me, if you never teach again, play what you love until your hands litterlly fall off, i know i would
I neerlly stroked to "the art of drounding", is, so good, i lived off a road named howerd, and theres a drain-off for rain that makes me think of, "take the hallow" , and sleepy hallow, and also fall and awtum ,all at the same time, the band chimichlly affects me
I'm not sure if you've done it on the channel yet, but Modest Mouse is another band who's singles on the radio paint a VERY different picture as to what they music actually is. (former) Bassist Eric Judy is incredible.
If you’re digging this style of horror punk, check out Balzac. Japanese horror punk heavily influenced by the Misfits with great gang vocals. “Out of the Blue II” it’s awesome with great jams throughout.
It's impossible for me to pick a favorite track off The Art of Drowning because the entire album is just that good. This entire era of AFI (art of drowning, black sails, all hallows) was basically a perfect run, not a single miss on any of the tracks IMO. Hope this one wins the poll!!!
This album takes me back to my mates garage in Sydney, Aus. He was a big fan. Feels like we're surrounded by his dads tools and wood off cuts whilst drinking whatever rubbish beer we could afford as 19 year olds.
If you wanna dive into the horror-X genres, the Horrorpops (rec song Miss Take) and Tiger Army (rec Incorporeal/Rose of Devil's Garden) are a good place to start. Granted they're actually Psychobilly, but it's pretty close
Art of Drowning is definitely one of my favourite albums from them. Crash Love was their last good album IMO despite probably causing the biggest divide in their fans. There are a couple of videos on instagram (reposted on youtube) of Hunter doing a playthrough of some songs.
For my money, there has never been a better 3-album series than Black Sails in the Sunset, The Art of Drowning, and Sing the Sorrow!
Gotta throw the All Hallows EP in there as well
I prefer Shut your mouth... over Sing he sorrow in that 3-album series.
@AverageGuy28 you can't really put Shut Your Mouth in the same category as Black Sails and AoD because it's a much different band.
I'd argue Alkaline Trio first 4 records Goddammit to Good Mourning is better.
If I remember correctly Davey Havoc ripped his vocal chords after sing the sorrow so that's why the sound changed a lot. I still like their new and old stuff. As far as alkaline trio I love the ep where they traded songs with Hot water music, bleeder was done so well
Old AFI show is the most viceral thing I've ever experienced... Strengh throught wounding, 500 persons sing in unison through our bleeding we are one... I've never experienced anything this powerfull ever...
Seen them 5x so far and I can concor that. They put in the best shows
One of the most impactful albums of my formative years. I dont even know the song titles, i just let it play from start to finish over and over
So many albums for me are the same way!
Same Here!!! The Art of Drowning is a MASTERPIECE!
I feel you. That’s me with Black Sails.
Old AFI always has a special place in my heart. Alot of this came out when I was in highschool
Haha you’re old. And so am I.
@@wayfarer13I guess that means I'm old as well. Man, All Hallows through Sing the Sorrow absolutely killed
The guitarist and bassist would do gang vocals, but they could always count on the crowd to do em as well. Their live shows in this era were absolutely legendary.
I saw them in a small club in Chico Ca at the time of this record. It was incredible. Most intense concert
I saw AFI in 99 two days before Halloween at galaxy in Dallas. They and Hot Water Music opened for I think Madball or another nyc hardcore band. The fucking place went totally batshit. One of the best live shows I’ve ever seen. Lost a shoe in the pit
@@gregorylong9056 hell yeah. With that lineup, I’m sure that was nuts.
Drummer yelled into the mic also
i saw them 2 days in a row warped tour '01 in San Francisco, huge moshpits, plural, all from the bay area
Hunter is easily one of the most underrated and overlooked bass players out there. The same can be said about the band as a whole. So damn good! 😎
AFI changed their sound so many different times they first started off as a hardcore band and just never stopped evolving
They started out as a jokey punk band. Then just for the 2nd and 3rd album they thought they were hardcore. Hence changing the name from A Buncha Fucking Idiots to Asking For It (such a hardcore band name).
Now they sound like Nickleback.
@@Inzo42they’ve never confirmed those rumours though, A Fire Inside is the only one they’ll confirm.
Uh I'm pretty sure they devolved. Have you listened to their music lately?
They went to absolute shit when they got big. 3 great albums and then they became emo/goth weirdos making garbage music
Your enthusiasm for the new-to-you music that we already love is so satisfying and contagious
YES ! Super stoked you chose to review this one. Black Sails in the Sunset and Art of Drowning are 2 of my favorite records of all time, let alone AFI records. Hunter is an absolute beast and gives an incredible live performance.
The old AFI shows were great. The crowd participation made them so much better.
I love old AFI. The period of Black Sails, All Hallows to Art of Drowning is incredible. If you haven't seen any videos of them playing these songs live from around that time, please check them out, insane energy.
I saw them in Arizona at The Last Damn Show in 02 or 03 i think? Davey jumped into the crowd and stood on my friends neck/shoulder for almost the whole set
One of my top 5 favorite albums. Glad you decided to revisit AFI. Hunter singlehandedly made me pick up a bass many years ago
Thank you Mark!!! AFI was my favorite band for nearly 20 years, and I still love them to this day. So diverse in sound, amazing songwriting, and just good dudes all around. Love that they still take hardcore bands or affiliation with them on the road.
This album is peak AFI for me. I was in high school and the little pre-chorus bass riff on 'Catch A Hot One' blew my young mind.
For me nothing beats Art of Drowning. Anything after that I can throw away.
Listening to this makes me realize that Streetlight Manifesto is the AFI of Ska, and both have a shared heritage in punk and before
I've heard of Streetlight but have never heard them, maybe will have to check them out. I do like ska-punk like Suicide Machines or Less Than Jake.
If you like the "woah-ohs" now just imagine being at one of their shows in the early 2000s. Unreal.
I was lucky enough to see them in Seattle during this era of AFI....and yes the other members helped with the vocals, but most of the audience knew to join in as well.
The first time I heard AFI was at a hardcore festival in D.C. The crowd went absolutely insane during their set. I swear people were stacked four high in front of the stage. I knew right away that they were just different. This sound mixed with the goth esthetic was quite the first impression.
Glad to see this song getting love.
AFI has lots of great bass focus songs. Another one you should check out AFI Death of Seasons from Sing the Sorrow.
One of those rare "no skips" album. 🤘
Absolutely loved this reaction. AFI was my favorite band in high school and I still to this day at the age of 40 have them in heavy rotation in my playlists. First time I saw them live, I think it was ‘98, they were opening for Good Riddance.
Yes!!!! I love this band and album so much!!!!!!!
Nitro era AFI was absolutely rad!!!! The song "Smile" off this sane album is a minute and a half lesson on how much this band used to just crush.
Sing the sorrow while a different kind of record is also amazing.
Punk from this era was all about being an audio rollercoaster from start to finish. No real meter changes, unless needed, but tempo would flex from being focused on the back-beat to on-beat. And that's what's made some of the best stuff. Lightning fast chord changes, varied by whatever lead voice in a 3-5 piece lineup they had. Making magic out of simplicity is the name of the game in punk and old AFI is a prime example.
So happy to see this today! Great example of that early/mid period AFI, especially hunter’s style from that era. Watching a live version might help you hear or see it better.
As you can tell by comments, the eras of this band can be very polarizing, they essentially changed sounds every album to the point where it may even be hard to recognize who it is - I’ve loved all of the growth and evolution (though 99-2003 is hard to beat).
For a less busy/fast picking style and maybe a more delicate/melodic style, I’d suggest listening to some stuff from the Sing the Sorrow sessions (now the world), Decemberunderground (endlessly she said), crash love (too late for gods), or Blood (Aurelia). Hunter is truly an amazing bass player.
They do such a great job at making you feel their energy AFI never disappoints us bass players
Need to check out the Vandals. Great band lots of energy and fun. Amazing bass line in the song "moneys not an issue" love the videos and how much you've taken to punk keep it up 💪🏻
i wholeheartedly agree. the vandals are my all time favorite band.
Dude. Seeing your personality change over the past year, you doing theae videos, you've really taken it by the horns and now that you are getting into punk rock, it's really awesome. I wish all my metal head friends loved punk rock as much as I do. You have zero elitist vibes and just get the music and understand why it is good!
One of the most epic live shows I've ever seen was AFI probably around 1997. Davey was hanging from the rafters at the beginning of the show. The energy they had was unreal. Goosebumps.
YESSS! I've been waiting for this one
😎
To answer your question about the gang vocals, they always invited a bunch of friends over to the recording sessions to create the chorus of voices. This was really common in the scene back in the day. What a lot of fun that time was!
That album was a huge part of my childhood/early adulthood. What a ride that was.
Edit -->
I was 17 when it dropped. I wouldn't say childhood. But then, if you ask my family and friends about that time... 😅
"So many woah-ohs!" So funny! You should check out a cheeky little outtake song that NOFX did called Woah on the Woahs!
Between AFI and The Offspring, I don’t think we need any else to sing…..
Anymore Whoas
Hahaha you beat me to it…
It's so funny. I didn't really think about it until NOFX called it out. After that song, I really picked up on all of AFI's woahs, and it actually starting annoying me. It's hard to hear AFI (at least old AFI) now.
It's taken straight from the Misfits in this context.
I was lucky enough to see AFI on this Art of Drowning tour my sophomore year of high school around Halloween when they played my hometown of Springfield Illinois
Saw them live at a small club in Pittsburgh called Laga in October 2000 right after this album came out. They pretty much played the whole album start to finish and it was nothing short of a spiritual experience with the entire place chorusing the Whoa oh oh's
I love this album so much. I wish they still had this sound
I think I first heard AFI on an older Punk-O-Rama cd (or some compilation) and then bought my first AFI album (BSITS) around the Black Sails days. Being in Highschool listening to Black Sails and Art of Drowning was like a perfect storm for teen angst : ). Hunter has done a series of live play throughs (like Fat Mike), can't remember if he did Sacrifice Theory though.
Loving your punk journey, glad to tag along.
Another old school one you should check out from what I consider their best album (Black Sails in the Sunset) is Narrative of Soul Against Soul. Hunter's bass is pretty forward in that one.
Makes my day seeing more punk updates from you 😊 maybe we will see some Authority Zero on here eventually?
Amazing choice
For those gang vocals you are referring to, during live performances we the fans/ audience become the vocal chants. Davey the singer does a good job at incorporating us all to sing along when they are live.
NOFX - Whoops I OD'd (Album Version)
That was great request song!! I'm with you 🔥👊🏻
@@ryanhardy4830 He seems hesitant because people are falsely claiming that it's not played on bass when it is 100% bass and vocals.
@@northofnashira2575in the very end of the song, you can hear him playing the B string on a guitar. I always thought it was bass, but I believe it is an acoustic guitar probably plugged into an amp. Listen to the very last chords of the song because I swear there’s guitar chords but maybe I’m crazy
You can get that high on a bass, but there are notes that are too low for it to be a guitar. Plus, the strings ring like bass strings.
@@northofnashira2575 interesting… it just sounds way different compared to the they’ve actually gotten worse live version with the full band. We need Mike to come on TH-cam and settle the debate!
The group vocals are different live because while multiple members of the band sing, the crowd generally sings those parts as well. I saw them once where the power kept going out and everyone in the venue did half a song a cappella.
Yea everyone in the band sings the gang vocals live and it sounds glorious.
One of my favorite Independent Wrestlers, Kennedi Copeland uses AFI’s Miss Murder for her entrance music and the entire crowd sings her to the ring. Such an awesome experience.
Thrice - Stare at the sun !!
Already done!
th-cam.com/video/1S9XeKhw0R8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lvPBaN1rMWycR8vI
Oh HELL yeah this album took over my life in high school. Perfect choice of song too.
Excellent! Love this song. I'm thinking Swingin Utters but can't think of a song. Any other fans here that can help out?
Definitely my favorite era of AFI! Sooooo good!
You should check out Road to Recovery by Rufio. It has that punchy bass line intro that you would definitely enjoy. Also please Like the Angel by Rise Against!!
Saw AFI with The Distillers right after this album came out for $7. They joined Rancid on tour like a week later. Great time to be catching shows as a teen.
Have you gotten any requests for The Dead Milkmen? I never realized how good their bass lines were when I started listening to them in the mid 80’s. Surfin’ Cow has a really good bass line, and Bitchin’ Camaro has a cool walking bass line. Their most popular song is Punk Rock Girl. Thanks for teaching us so much.
AFI is top, It's one of the few bands I love despite changing generes many times. Their new stuff is also great, you should check out "Dulceria", from their latest album.
One of the best punk albums I've ever heard. Wester and Nephilim are the standouts for me but their isn't a weak song on here.
Just to answer your question - does everyone in the band sing - I was obsessed with AFI when this album came out and saw them in concert 4 times (including with Rancid at the Palladium, one of the greatest shows of my life). Yes, all three of the other members jump in on the mic during the live shows.
Also, for the record, AFI take their approach to gang vocals from the Hardcore punk/Oi punk scene they grew from.
Hunter is one of the most under appreciated bassists in punk/rock/music in general. Dude is a n absolute monster on the bass
I feel like on their “I heard a voice” live album you can hear Hunters bass pretty cleanly
I think they remastered certain albums also
One of my favorite bands hunter the bassist and Jade the guitarist are a rare combination that have evolved together and it always works. I would request you check out victor wooten he's a dynamic bass player that slaps nad uses harmonics on bass
The old AFI songs were kinda just a chorus A and chorus B alternating with a bridge thrown in somewhere. They used a lot of oh’s and whoa’s. This is pretty well suited for small live venues where the band was sort of face to face with the crowd. With the simple structure and anthemic gang vocals the audience can be part of the live music experience, singing the chorus at the band. And with the song structure most of the song basically functions as a chorus except the bridge. The live shows are super engaging. Their formula has changed quite a bit over the years. Maybe partly because they don’t really play small venues anymore.
This album was a game changer for me when it came out
Look up the song "Biggest Lie" by No Use for a Name. The singer Tony Sly died a while back ago, and I still don't think he gets enough praise.
yes, all the WOA's (AFI were king of them) at the show the entire crowd would lunge toward the stage and scream them as loud as we could. davey would get to the stage apron, thrive off the energy, grab people in the crowd and give the mic to everyone. This album was an amazing era in AFI tours. nowadays its prob huge crowds and people on phones.
Was at an AFI show last year, wasn't a huge crowd at all, and most people toward the front were definitely going crazy and not on their phone, I know because I was as far up front as I could get. Was such an awesome experience, I got to touch Davey when he came out into the crowd and had us hold him up.
Great video as always! Another song that comes to mind for me when you talk about the role reversal idea of guitar and bass is Jenny Was a Friend of Mine by The Killers. If you check that song out, try to do the live version from Royal Albert Hall in 2009. Great stuff! It's been awhile since I've made any recommendations, but gonna throw a suggestion out for more Karnivool. New Day, Umbra, or Deadman would be great options, all from the same album as Goliath. And Chris Wolstenholme and Muse would be a good new band to listen to (live versions of Bliss live at The Mayan or Reapers from the Drones World Tour are both great with the bass mixed very well). Keep doing what you're doing!
Please consider doing Dag Nasty “Values here” or SNFU “Loser at Life Loser at Death”
You should check out:
Gorilla Biscuits - New Direction
Bane - Some Came Running
Death By Stereo - 1 Legged Man In An Ass Kicking Contest
nice suggestions. i keep trying to come up with more hardcore songs. In My Eyes has a cool intro I guess. Converge - Dark Horse is pretty wild.
Nice, DBS was way ahead of their time.
I remember waiting in line at GrayWhale cd exchange in ‘2000 for the midnight release of this album. They had pizza and Pepsi for everyone.
Love the videos and your tour into punk and ska! How about “Stuff That I Like” or “Vocal Coach” from Bomb the Music Industry!
If you wanna here the transition from this to Decemberunderground(album with miss murder), then I would recommend checking out the album Sing the Sorrow. Idk what i would suggest to showcase the bass tho
All hallows ep is goated.
My fav afi record by far
Happy to see you doing one of my favorite bands again! AFI was such a big part of my teen years. Davey Havok is also the person who made me realize I wasn't completely straight lol
Bowie did that for me years before but, WOW, what a heartthrob Davey is! 😁
I really love these in-depth analysis of "old" songs I listen to daily still to this day.
AFI, as well as Tiger army always have a special place in my heart, such sweet memories!
Check out Much the Same - Crying Wolf, speaking of old. This is the song that inspired me to play Bass like 20 years ago.
Much the Same - Liar is also very fun to play.
Also if you like AFI, Davey Havok, frontman of AFI is very close friends with "Nick13", frontman of Tiger Army, Nick13 is also featured on a lot of songs of AFI. Tiger Army is also very enjoyable to listen to as Bassist, Psychobilly music, the bassist uses an upright bass, producing a unique sound, also check them out!
LAWRENCE ARMS! "Nebraska" or "Quincenteple your Money"
I'm a fan of The Lawrence Arms fo sho. I'd say "Cut It Up" would be decent for bass.
This is top tier AFI. I have a Sacrifice Theory tattoo. It’s one of, if not my number 1 Al time favorite AFI song.
Sick bro, a lot of AFI fans out here, Hunter has heaps of ripper bass parts. I agree the bass mixing sounds a little lost at times on these punk records. Great album 🎉
There’s such a divide in the AFI fans about if they evolved their sound or if they sold out or whatever.. but man I love every single album! You could check out anything from them and it all kills!! Can’t wait for what you’ve got next brother! Keep em coming 🙏🏻
Thanks friend!! Always appreciate you tuning in 🙏🏼
Definitely evolved.
There's an AFI album for every mood and I love that about them.
@@shanesmith2853 exactly how I see it! No matter what I’m feeling AFI got a sound for it and I’m here for that
“So, does everyone in this band sing? There has to be a live element to that to get those big group chants.”
Back in those days, everyone in the venue would sing.
Such a great record! The last of their purely punk/hardcore records before the major label dive, ‘Sing the Sorrow’. Still also a great record though admittedly, I’d say their last really great record, just a different flavour, not as punk. I mentioned it on your last AFI vid, but it bares repeating; old AFI was one of (if not thee) best punk bands of the mid and late 90’s. They absolutely dominated the hardcore scene during this record and the shows were insane!
I do truly miss those days…I’m happy they found major success, because they certainly deserved it, but I do sometimes wish they’d go on the road playing shitty little clubs and basements again, playing nothing but these old songs….but if they did, good luck getting into one.😅 Just goes to show how short lived the best times in a band’s history can be. A good reminder to catch these bands when they’re freshly dominating scenes, cause you just never know what you’re missing out on!
I have a four string, and a six string mini gitar, and im not good atveither but i love the sound of them and the the old rustic hamonica, of which i have eight that i know of, i love the ressonnencevthat they can bring, no good at any of them , but i do love the sounds that they cand bring, maybe im just dumb for loceing old things like that, and i dont know how to really corispond with you but if your gereing me, if you never teach again, play what you love until your hands litterlly fall off, i know i would
A video like this commented by a singing teacher would be interesting. Davey was incredible in those years
I neerlly stroked to "the art of drounding", is, so good, i lived off a road named howerd, and theres a drain-off for rain that makes me think of, "take the hallow" , and sleepy hallow, and also fall and awtum ,all at the same time, the band chimichlly affects me
Gang vocals are us!!!! We owe it as an audience.
I'm not sure if you've done it on the channel yet, but Modest Mouse is another band who's singles on the radio paint a VERY different picture as to what they music actually is. (former) Bassist Eric Judy is incredible.
If you’re digging this style of horror punk, check out Balzac. Japanese horror punk heavily influenced by the Misfits with great gang vocals. “Out of the Blue II” it’s awesome with great jams throughout.
7:43 This section reminds me of Good Riddance and Screw 32
P.s. from this album I suggest 6 to 8, or The Lost Souls
Such a good song!
Their greatest album in my opinion. Love AFI
Art of Drowning def my favorite album of theirs
It's impossible for me to pick a favorite track off The Art of Drowning because the entire album is just that good. This entire era of AFI (art of drowning, black sails, all hallows) was basically a perfect run, not a single miss on any of the tracks IMO. Hope this one wins the poll!!!
I love LOVE *LOVE* AFI
If you like the horror punk subgenre go a bit further into a sub sub genre "horrorbilly", and Check Tiger Army - Nocturnal
check the album FAST FOWARD EATS THE TAPE from BELVEDERE band!
This album takes me back to my mates garage in Sydney, Aus. He was a big fan. Feels like we're surrounded by his dads tools and wood off cuts whilst drinking whatever rubbish beer we could afford as 19 year olds.
If you wanna dive into the horror-X genres, the Horrorpops (rec song Miss Take) and Tiger Army (rec Incorporeal/Rose of Devil's Garden) are a good place to start. Granted they're actually Psychobilly, but it's pretty close
you must, must, must check out The Great Disappointment by AFI.
“Does everybody in this band sing?” Well yeah, but also everybody at the damn show sings!
Art of Drowning is definitely one of my favourite albums from them. Crash Love was their last good album IMO despite probably causing the biggest divide in their fans. There are a couple of videos on instagram (reposted on youtube) of Hunter doing a playthrough of some songs.