She stopped being mad about the grandparents AFTER her mother finally told the truth about them. She only wanted to meet them before she knew the truth. She was mad about being LIED to.
@@katimagines Georgia obviously didn’t want to tell her because of how it traumatized her. She’s not obligated to tell her something that sad and disgusting that happened in her life. And Ginny lies too. So she’s a hypocrite
@@jennellrobinson1264 Ginny lies about what? How does Ginny's lies actually impact anyone? Georgia didn't need to tell her every detail, but she didn't need to lie. She shouldn't have told her that she had no family, but told her that they were awful to her and she doesn't want them to be apart of their life. The show suggests Austin's father might actually be a really bad guy, but because of Georgia's lies, Austin and Ginny are actively going to seek him out. If she had told them what kind of person he was, that wouldn't have happened. Lying to your children doesn't protect them, it only blinds them to the truth and therefore more likely to be hurt the way you were and also by your lies.
I hate how Marcus gets glamourised because he’s attractive. He literally climbed into a strangers room (who was a minor) refused to get out and no one even talks about it?? It completely normalises predatory behaviour.
I kind of like that scene. As a black woman hearing hunter say all those stereotypes pissed me off. But then I realized Ginny had just done the same thing to him. I think we rarely talk about the racism Asian Americans go through and Black racism is the only form of racism in a lot of peoples minds. We have to understand people come as they are and there is no such thing as acting “white”. Ginny let all those comments about her under that song video get to her so she felt really confused and wanted him to feel that way too. Which is wrong.
Ginny made everything EVERYTHING about her. They could’ve really done something with this show, where they showed what it’s like to be half black and half white. The prejudice they experience from the white and the black side of their family but they just... did it do trrribly.
@@himanshisobti6937 depends on the teenager but like... half the ppl criticizing ginny ARE teenagers who watched the show and aren’t self entitled lmao
Just cause she’s biracial doesn’t mean that has to be her whole attribute to the show or even her character. I think the show was more about her being a selfish teenager that has issues and a crazy immature mother that trying to do her best in a way ...
One thing I hated about max was that they tried to shove all the stereotypes about Gen Z into one character who was borderline racist at points, but it seemed like they wanted us to brush it all off and make up for it with the fact that she’s gay.
I got so pissed off when max just told ginny to brush off that rude comment about her being biracial... they really said "she's not like other white people, she's gay 👍👍"
so i binge watched this show when it came but i have a few thoughts: - i know everyone loves marcus but the way he climbed through her window was creepy and it made me uncomfortable - how is hunter one of the most popular guys at school? - i hated how marcus treated padma, she deserved better - paul was beyond cringe, joe all the way (i think she's gonna end up with him in the next season anyways lmao) - austin is basically the best character
@@oracleaway it's because he's attractive and has had past trauma from his friend dying i guess that gives you a free pass in climbing through a girl's window at night without getting called out💀
@@niamhharikasen7848 Bye- he is not even attractive he looks like every Wattpad bad boy stereotype. And just because he has trauma doesn’t make him a good characters. People just to ignore the fact how bad he treated his girlfriend
@@oracleaway right, instead of just telling padma that he's feeling something for ginny (for whatever reason you'd fall for a girl who you barely even talked to and on top of that whose only personality trait is that she's a brat) but instead he made her feel like crap, i feel sorry for her.
One thing Ginny and Georgia did really well though was their incorporation of the deaf father. How naturally he was placed within the scenes. They didn't need this huge scene of explaining why he is deaf and how to do sign language and whatever. I loved how naturally the children signed when they spoke at dinner even if they weren't speaking directly to the father. Also when the sister gets put in bed by her brother, they sign to each other even though they don't need to. Whether that was incorporated within the script or suggested by the director, hats off for making it so realistic.
i know some asl and i understood some of it. also asl isnt a word for word translation of english, its an interpretation of the meaning of a sentance (often in English)
I like how the show contradicts Ginny when she basically says black kids don’t like her. Sometimes it can be true but mostly black kids don’t really notice nor care if your mixed.
Agreed. And I liked the way the character addressed it - she makes it clear that light-skin-privilege is real and she's not going to pretend it isn't, but also that it isn't going to be problem or some big drama between them. It felt so much more realistic as to how people of color talk to each other about race than the oppression olympics scene - like people who have lived around racism their whole lives and didn't just learn about it before writing the scene.
I live in South Africa,here it is common to be mixed and have schools with people of all race and no one freaking cares of you're mixed or not. It has never once,in all my years of schooling come up
Girl thank you for bringing up the criticism of minorities talking about being minorities in this show. I’ve seen it elsewhere and it’s such a lazy trope, like we don’t have identities beyond our race. It’s bizarre
RIGHT! I'm biracial (black & white) and I have no problem talking about race and identity but it's frustrating seeing hollywood make it like that's all we care and think about. Just let us have fun characters😔
The fact that Ginny the light skin bi-racial girl gets chosen over Padma the South Asian girl whose darker skinned perpetuates the idea that South Asian women are unlovable when she's literally gorgeous and can sing. I hope she finds herself better friends and a good boyfriend.
i totally feel you on this, I’m south asian too and seeing padma, a south asian character being portrayed as this “loose” and “easy going”….doesn’t sit right with me.
honestly, the way the teenagers in the show talked (particularly MAN) made me wonder if the show was trying to be a satirical, over-the-top take on teenagers?
It needs to be funny for it to be satire Also, it is true that some people talk like that, but they do sound just as robotic and “fellow-kidsy” as I’ve been shown in the show
i feel like ginny perceives herself as someone she really isn’t? Like she wants to be perceived as shy, reserved, quirky unique or whatever. But her actions show otherwise. I think that’s why almost everyone is fed up of her in the end. But she still doesn’t realize it’s all her fault.
I like what they were trying to do with Ginny’s character, emphasis on trying. The execution just made her out to be the most stereotypical, bratty, straight out of Wattpad teenage girl. I liked that she mailed Austin’s letters to his dad. It showed she actually cares about her little brother and not just herself. But then they add in the fact that Georgia told her she was abused and Ginny’s response is, “I have a right to know about my family,” girl bye
I thought that they were purposely trying to make Ginny more and more unlikeable as the show went on to show that she does bad things as a reflection of the things her mom has done, since parents are usually role models to their children
@@janenewton9960 exactly.. Ginny knew nothing about that stuff bc her mom didn’t tell her and that’s probably bc she didn’t want her kids to be burdened or ruined by the same dark stuff she had to deal with. So I personally think her going off and thinking her mom is just irresponsible and she’s more mature than her and she’s the real parent in the situation and she should mail the letters to his dad who is in PRISON.. didn’t like that..
I’m bi-racial but Asian(India Asian)-American and usually people think I’m a tanned Chinese person. Like- how much people can be unintentionally racist is SHOCKING
"Unintentionally" 😂 I'm also biracial in predominantly white conservative northern Canada and oh boy, just trying to get my coworkers to not be racist around me is a full time job itself
@@theokunkel I’m not sure how corporate works in Canada, but does your HR department does anything? Sometimes they can help, but it would be good to do in case you need to take legal action. It shows that you did everything you can and that the company was negligent, which sounds like they are.
I don’t like how they said Ginny doesn’t fit In with the white kids or the black kids but when the black kids try to include her she dismisses them and doesn’t even try to form a relationship with them.
@@majolaladipo8563t makes sense. Her mom is white so in my opinion, she identifies more with her white side and white people which is fine. But it’s just annoying how the show tries to make us feel bad because she “doesn’t fit in” with white or black people when she clearly dismissed black people to be friends with white people.
this was just a highly entertaining wattpad story in show format that i inhaled in a day, received 3000 in brain damage, and promptly forgot i experienced
OMG or when maxine suggested she date marcus toward the beginning and then got mad when they were in love??? SO SELFISH. He is her brother, she doesn't own him
@@bissum4227 i think Maxine was mad because of the fact that she was good friends with Ginny yet Ginny never told her about her relationship with Marcus and even lied to her about it
@@evedits0277 Noooo JATP is actually a really good show. The fact that it’s a show meant for kids and has better writing, characters, character development, and diversity than this show says a lot.
At one point i started skipping all the ginny's part and solely watched georgia. She had layers to her character and was so much fun to watch. Ginny became ecentric and very annoying later on. [Hated the triangle "love story" btw]. I'd rather watch "never have i ever" for teen drama✌️
@@nuhaakmel663 i think they both kinda had their hints about who each other was, like when joe mentioned he had a horse named milkshake she kinda looked like something sparked her memories, and then when ginny pulled out her moms glasses and joe recognized them. i think they both somewhat know but never talked with each other about it
I don't ship Ginny with Marcus or Hunter. Ginny an d Hunter have no personality. Ginny and Marcus are literally just sexual tension no romance whatsoever.
Thank you so much for watching! I definitely had mixed feelings about it because it really did keep me watching until the end lol. I've pretty much said my piece, so maybe stay tuned for a season 2?
Unpopular opinion: I actually really liked the Opression Olympics scene. Like who is Ginny to tell him he's not Asian enough, especially when she doesn't feel black enough. If anyone, I thought Ginny would know just bc you don't follow the stereotypes of your race, it doesn't make you any less. But no, she had to come in with that bs and he sat her down for it (by intentionally using her logic against her). Ginny will bring up race when it benefits her.
Yeah fair, same really. I understand some people are really uncomfortable with what Hunter said, but it was all to make Ginny realize how racist she was being towards Asians. Idk if she would have gotten the point if he just said: "That's racist" to her. But fighting racist perceptions with racism is also seems wrong. Just glad Hunter didn't just take it, it really made me feel like he had a personality for the first time.
Antonia Gentry is of Jamaican ancestry, which is the reason for the "jerk chicken" line which is super weird because that's the actress, not the character.
@@chickennuggetz5632 yes but the specific stereotype is fried chicken. Jerk chicken is linked and associated to Jamaica so that wouldn’t even apply to most black Americans
@@blessednotstressed2739 it really doesn’t matter, the stereotype is black people love chicken ,either type doesn’t change the fact that it’s a stereotype.
Joe was the hottie of the series. He is handsome, has a perfect beard, is caring, cool, he is such a catch, and the series insist in selling the bland oatmeal dude as the hottest.
bruh I don’t even watch this show I just watch clips of it. When I found out that these characters were supposed to be my age, lemme tell you that I DROPPED DEAD! no freshman would be caught dead acting like any of these characters. Ginny would probably be the most hated person in the class. Marcus, being the conventionally attractive guy he is, would definitely not be the “loner”.
But it’s also a fictional show that’s supposed to teach lessons (based on how they presented themselves) so if these kids are 15, going through shit like that, they should show how they overcome it so the 15 year olds it’s targeted towards can learn something from it.
The show annoyed me quite a bit, especially that oppression olympics scene. Both hunter and Ginny are in the wrong, just because you like other foods and can’t speak the language doesn’t make you any less of that race and saying horrible stereotypes is absolutely horrible. There’s no excuse.
Yes!! I’ve never seen a title I’ve related to more. Ginny and Georgia is like a car crash, I can’t watch away. I binged all of this in one night and I can’t stop thinking about it🤪🤣🤣
This show was trying to be Gilmore girls but failed in actually picking a niche (friendly small New England town with mother-daughter dynamics and commentary on the complexity of parenting), and grounding the silly story with really great dialogue
I was gonna say this looks like it's trying to be weird woke Gilmore girls. But that shows was amazing because the writing was amazing. This writing looks trash
Very glad you mentioned the absolutely terrible dialogue haha . . . like 90% of the lines were so far removed from the way people normally talk. And also the way they tried to take on a million serious topics without adequately addressing any of them, the way certain characters were one dimensional, and yeah you basically took the words out of my mouth with the rest of your analysis lol.
The good thing about Ginny and Georgia is the fact that it shows that there is no such thing as good or bad person. Real people make mistakes, they are not perfect. I can't remember when was the last time I saw something like that in a show.
I just finished this and I'm so mad so i have to put this out there. Ginny was unlikeable, they tried to make her the "not like other girls" so that's already tiring. She thought everything was about her, was mean to almost everyone. Also the fact that she couldn't talk things out but decided to hide everything and then say "I'm so sorry" and cry. Marcus was a douchebag, he sneaked into her room, had sex and the disappeared, but when Ginny started dating Hunter, he felt in love and jealous out of nowhere. So he's the average idiot. Hunter was cringy. Maxine was the worst, she was dumb, forced, tried to be quirky but it was just embarrassing, was mean to people like sam or marcus w/ no reason. Dramatic af, thought she was ginny's owner or some because of how she reacted to the fact of ginny not being a virgin and having sex w/ Marcus, like gurl is not a big deal, she can sleep w/ whoever she wants. Invalidated others feelings. She was just the most irritating character.
The whole show is just a big compilation of serious topics that didn’t work alongside each other. The two main themes, in my opinion (racial prejudice and self harm) were topics that needed their own show to be done justice. I’m white, so I can’t comment on the experiencing racial prejudice that the show explores. However, I self-harmed for a number of years, so I am at least equipped to comment on that. To put it bluntly, Ginny’s struggle with self harm is extremely romantized. Yes, it does provide relief, which I think is what the show was aiming to emphasise, but it isn’t sunshine and rainbows and relief when you self harm. It hurts a lot. I didn’t burn myself like Ginny does in the show, I cut myself, which is a whole lot messier than burning. Plus the thing where she just...lets Hunter undress her? Fair enough, scars are a lot more noticeable as self harm than burns are, but I wouldn’t let anyone look at me for months. I could say more about the topic, but I just think it was done poorly as really the issue needs it’s own show and not just to be a subplot in this one.
Loved the video! And damn.. it's really messed up making Ginny talk about the Asian stereotypes as if it's supposed to be some kind of privilege for the Asian community.. The writers shouldn't have started comparing it with the black stereotypes in the first place, because they're both hurtful at the end of the day. Idk but as a black girl myself I would've loved it if they had shown solidarity (apart from a romantic relationship which didn't even last) between these two races struggling in society, instead of just showing (sadly more) division between them.. But guess that's too much to ask from Netflix's 'teen' shows these days.
Ok can I just say also... the way that the teens interact on social media in shows and movies made by adults has always been hilarious to me cause like... no teen talks like this over text and stuff lmao
As someone who is mixed. The show tried to show what it was like, and they definitely got some points. Like Ginny straightening her hair to fit in with the white kids. After COVID started and we were all quarantined, I spent 6 months of that quarantine trying to get my hair healthy again and finally embracing my curly hair…. But then I went back to school. I go to a predominantly white school in the south, so I mainly saw straight hair. I thought my hair looked messy and untamed, so I started straightening my hair again. So that is a very real struggle that me and many other biracial or curly headed ppl go through. And a more accurate way they could’ve shown how people may treat Ginny differently because she is biracial is by showing how a lot of times (idk if this is common in other places, but it is where I live) black people won’t think you’re back enough to date or be friends with, while white people will treat you like some sort of trophy or will straight up forget you’re mixed and will do like hella racist stuff around you. But some other points they could’ve put into the show, is gunny struggling with her culture. Especially since she is raised by a white mom, showing how biracial people can struggle with their culture would be really nice. I lived with the white side of my family until I was 8, and my black dad would send my white aunt money so she could go get someone to out braids in my hair, but she refused because she wanted me to be as white as possible, so even now, when I’m 15 years old, I’m too scared to ask my dad if I get braids or lay my edges. Especially with all the cultural appreciation arguments that have been going in recently. And one other struggle is other people trying to tell you what race you should identify as. One person is saying “if you look white, you need identify as white, if you look black, you need to identify as black” while someone else is saying “you can’t just pick and choose which race you want to identify as because then that means you’re only doing it for your own self gain” BUT THEN SOMEONE ELSE IS SAYING “you can’t identify as biracial because it’s technically not a race, so you have to choose one or the other”. And personally, I’ve been called a mixed breed and a half breed before so they could also put that in the show. This is all based off my personal experience, but I know a lot of biracial people face similar struggles.
Some belated timestamps and socials: 00:00 What's wrong with Ginny and Georgia? 00:17 Ginny and Georgia Taylor Swift controversy 00:31 "Oppression Olympics Let's Go" 00:55 Vulture article on Guy Fieri's Trash Can Nachos 01:05 A quick Ginny and Georgia recap 02:13 Ginny and Georgia characterization 03:15 Ginny's sweater - Easter egg 03:25 The biracial experience 04:59 Ginny & Georgia bad dialogue 05:29 Bad characterization - Max 06:12 Does Ginny have a personality? 06:43 Georgia's character development 08:05 Marcus and Ginny, who's nOt LiKe OtHeR gIrLs 08:45 Subverting a trope or inconsistent characterization? 10:05 Overall Ginny and Georgia analysis 10:54 Blacia was a prop 11:20 Who is Ginny and Georgia for? Just made socials! @myfivecents_ (IG, Twitter, TikTok)
I think the oppression Olympic scene was effective for bringing up the relationship between different people of color because usually on tv if that’s brought up it’s black vs white. Even if it is surface level it may start a conversation
Finally someone noticed xd imagine if they were to show non-whites being racist and violent against whites. It happens all the time in Africa, Europe and horrible America but it's everything but told to the general public. I think all races deserve the same level of respect and safety, not only blacks or non-whites. Racism is a human issue, not a white issue. Media demonizes whites 24/7 but you can't even dream about having diversity in the Middle East or Asia and that alone speaks tons about who's the least racist group.
@@fatbitch7168 tbf, white or black actors in Asian countries are borderline none-existant. saying more diversity to them is a really difficult if there is no actors to chose from. Not saying they would chose actors of different race if they had them, but we don't really know, because they don't have the possibility.
I mean Marcus definitely wasn't the worst character imo. The climbing in through the window thing has never been cute and will never be cute. But I think he's one of the few characters in this show that made me laugh. His reaction to the tap dancing scene is iconic.
I swear the whole oppression Olympics scene is gross. I'm fully black (Nigerian) so I don't know about being mixed. BUT, I have a very diverse friend group, and its not intentional. We're all white, black, asian, south east asian, etc. And yes, there are privileges that exist in the world that comes with the culture you're born into. But we don't let that ruin our friendship like what? We choose to rise above it, instead of acting trashy like Ginny tf?
That's actually pretty great! Idk if you meant that culture thing as in "it happens everywhere", but yeah: it happens everywhere. Europe and white colonies are not the only places in which minorities might struggle. They are in fact the most open societies in the world, so it's kinda over the top to make it seem like hell for everyone but whites when (believe it or not) white people suffer from racism from certain groups too and that's everything but talked about in the media. Racism is not a white issue, it's a human issue. Anyone can be racist against anyone and anyone can suffer from racism from anyone
@Gloriellee X everyone can be oppressed. Take a look at South Africa, Zimbabwe or Haiti where there was white genocide. Take a look at Europe and America where there are hate crimes against whites with no media coverage or any kind of support
@Gloriellee X they do in non-white majority areas and mass media is 100% anti-white constantly demonizing us, blaming us for everyone's shortcomings and making us seem the worst threat to world peace on earth. Also when there are hate crimes committed against us there's zero media coverage or mass support as it happens to everyone but us, which is everything but being oppressed
@Gloriellee X With this mindset that they can’t be oppressed, people feel it’s okay to attack or verbally attack them because “you can’t be racist to a white person” or “you can oppress the oppressor!”
People's views on Ginny are short sighted. We're meant to hate her for now so we can watch her grow later. Her problems & mindset are presented as petty & angsty and she slowly gets more serious and less naive as she learns her mother's past & face family issues, by the end of the season it's clear that shes gonna endure major character development by s2.
My biggest problem is the two main characters themselves. Ginny is just awful to her mother. As a black fifteen year old girl myself and having grown up with a 56 year old Christian mother and being married to her husband for almost thirty years, I’d kill for a mother like Georgia. Georgia always tells it like it is. She doesn’t sugarcoat everything, but she does encourage and support her children, even going the unconventional route of being a mother (letting Austin punch his bully in the face, how cathartic). She’s even open about things my mother barely talks about, like sex. Ginny doesn’t give a damn, though. She’s jealous and needy and it shows whenever she talks to her mother. She’s disrespectful, rude, inconsiderate, and clearly doesn’t care about her mother’s happiness. I despise girls and boys who treat their moms with contempt.
Personally, I don’t think Hunter was trying to be offensive in their “oppression olympics” argument, although he did say some pretty hurtful things. It seemed to me like he was purposely using Ginny’s logic. Also, y’all may be right about how essays should be written in a certain format or whatever but even if that were true, it’s clear that the teacher is very racist and biased. There was definitely personal feelings in how he came to his decision.
@@monicasania8539 I didn’t say it was not racist. In fact I even said that they were hurtful. I merely stated that Hunter was using Ginny’s logic against her periodt
Netflix has a pattern of hiring mixed women to play black characters while ignoring the fact they’re white passing. So I’m glad they have a mixed character that doesn’t talk about black issues that sound completely tone deaf as if she is oppressed the same way full black people are.
OK I agree with the part that ginny was terrible, but the way Georgia was handling their life wasn't the best either. I didn't finish the series but I didn't have the motivation or the thrill to do so.
2:59 She's also in the first Twitches movie (Illeana) and it was bothering me for so long because I could not for the life of me figure out where I'd seen her before
The oppression olympics made me lose brain cells, she said he not Asian enough and eat cheeseburgers and he said homie and said Brody twerks better than her 😭😭😭
i have never seen this show but as a biracial asian and seeing what you've put here all i can say is they they are 100% milking the mixed identity which is honestly so funny
Max was too pushy, she forced Ginny to date Hunter without asking if her so called “new bestfriend” like anyone else, Hunter’s character was so unrealistic no teen say the things he said 😭😭😭
Idk personally I thought most of the stuff they did was intentional I just wish they made ginny learn from it more, like ginny was the most hypocritical character there FJSLKS , Im just waiting for joe and Georgia to get together not to see whatever mess ginny is in😭
That's what I thought too! I don't think the writer's intended for the audience to agree with the things Ginny said, they wanted her to be the main character with flaws as all teenagers are. The things she said just sounded like things an ignorant teenager would say, which is what she is as it also reflects how she is ignorant to her mother being a murder.
In that weed scene I was like ‘please don’t have him like Georgia’ and i was very surprised when they didn’t play that story, I felt like they set it up, but I’m glad they didn’t pursue that story line.
I keep saying this show would've been so much better if it was only about georgia, i really like the flashbacks they are way more intresting then the teenagers of the show's drama
There were probably 2 or 3 people of color in Gilmore Girls which made it hard for me personally to relate to any character on that show. G&G is far from perfect but at least I can see small glimpses of myself in it (which is a sad sentiment in itself if you really think about it) it sucks to be happy about receiving the bare minimum but I’ll take it for now and hope that the show can improve somehow for representations sake💀
Not at all. Y’all see any show I with a young mom & daughter duo and automatically say Gilmore girls. Think of something new bc it’s no similarities...
let’s not forgot the way ginny got mad at georgia for not letting her see her grandparents AFTER georgia told her how they abused her
She got mad over being lied to tho, still shitty but understandable
She stopped being mad about the grandparents AFTER her mother finally told the truth about them. She only wanted to meet them before she knew the truth. She was mad about being LIED to.
@@katimagines she is still annoying
@@katimagines Georgia obviously didn’t want to tell her because of how it traumatized her. She’s not obligated to tell her something that sad and disgusting that happened in her life. And Ginny lies too. So she’s a hypocrite
@@jennellrobinson1264 Ginny lies about what? How does Ginny's lies actually impact anyone? Georgia didn't need to tell her every detail, but she didn't need to lie. She shouldn't have told her that she had no family, but told her that they were awful to her and she doesn't want them to be apart of their life. The show suggests Austin's father might actually be a really bad guy, but because of Georgia's lies, Austin and Ginny are actively going to seek him out. If she had told them what kind of person he was, that wouldn't have happened. Lying to your children doesn't protect them, it only blinds them to the truth and therefore more likely to be hurt the way you were and also by your lies.
the only thing i have to say about the show is that ginny deserved that slap
And didn’t deserve a apology for the slap 😀
@@Ivuxoxo and ginny had no right to slap people
@@psylocke_101 fr
I never hated a character so much I swear I like villains more than her
@@darksun2063 SAME LMAO
georgia was the only good part about the entire show help
Georgia was for sure the most entertaining.. was about to say I liked Joe a lot but then briefly forgot his name lmfao
Some of the side characters like Ellen, Joe, Austin, and the guy who dated the detective were good.
@@Hi-ky2wd yep agreeable
FR
She's the only reason I watch, sometimes I even skip ginny scenes to get to Georgia xD
that oppression olympics clip made me lose 25 years of my life
The cringiest thing I've ever seen. I want to cry
Same
“Let’s go!” 😂
@@lesbiangoddess290 when hunter used “homie” 💀💀
fr. As an Asian person it made me so uncomfy
I hate how Marcus gets glamourised because he’s attractive. He literally climbed into a strangers room (who was a minor) refused to get out and no one even talks about it?? It completely normalises predatory behaviour.
They are both 15 she is older actually
But I get it
They’re both the same age
@Stupidity At It's Finest where did I say it wasn’t I’m confused.
I mean, theyre both minors
I find myself enjoying the show at times and they hit me with the oppression olympics and I have to reevaluate 😶
Me too-I’m conflicted because it was entertaining and I also liked parts of it! But it became, as they say, a lot
Yeah same
Omg I see u everywhere
samee
I only enjoyed the Joe scenes 🥲
The writers really thought they were doing something with that “oppression olympics” monologue
Fr! Like the whole convo made me cringe and was definitely my least favourite part of the show
One of the actors wrote that scene from experience
@@vanishastewart8939 oh is that true?
@@vanishastewart8939 yikes 😬
I kind of like that scene. As a black woman hearing hunter say all those stereotypes pissed me off. But then I realized Ginny had just done the same thing to him. I think we rarely talk about the racism Asian Americans go through and Black racism is the only form of racism in a lot of peoples minds. We have to understand people come as they are and there is no such thing as acting “white”. Ginny let all those comments about her under that song video get to her so she felt really confused and wanted him to feel that way too. Which is wrong.
Ginny made everything EVERYTHING about her. They could’ve really done something with this show, where they showed what it’s like to be half black and half white. The prejudice they experience from the white and the black side of their family but they just... did it do trrribly.
Teenagers do tend to make everything about them
She has dealt with all those things that everything she does is out of anger
@@himanshisobti6937 depends on the teenager but like... half the ppl criticizing ginny ARE teenagers who watched the show and aren’t self entitled lmao
Just cause she’s biracial doesn’t mean that has to be her whole attribute to the show or even her character. I think the show was more about her being a selfish teenager that has issues and a crazy immature mother that trying to do her best in a way ...
@@Ivuxoxo but yea this may be some peoples reality though
Hey guys let’s just appreciate Joe, Padma and all the other characters that didn’t get the appreciation they deserve
Not Norah she didnt say anything when Abby said that Ginny shoplifted . She just sits there and doesn't really do anything as a good friend will do.
Norah is fake asf🥂
@@Naomi-lt1tc fr😒
@@confusedgorl yeah I was gonna edit Norah out when I first made this comment but I guess I forgot lol but yeah Norah was really superficial and fake
the actors that play Joe and Padma are actually siblings!
One thing I hated about max was that they tried to shove all the stereotypes about Gen Z into one character who was borderline racist at points, but it seemed like they wanted us to brush it all off and make up for it with the fact that she’s gay.
THIS!!!!
IKR
I got so pissed off when max just told ginny to brush off that rude comment about her being biracial... they really said "she's not like other white people, she's gay 👍👍"
It’s like through in lgbtq characters who do terrible things but brush it off because that person is gay……
yupp^^
so i binge watched this show when it came but i have a few thoughts:
- i know everyone loves marcus but the way he climbed through her window was creepy and it made me uncomfortable
- how is hunter one of the most popular guys at school?
- i hated how marcus treated padma, she deserved better
- paul was beyond cringe, joe all the way (i think she's gonna end up with him in the next season anyways lmao)
- austin is basically the best character
Yesss I don’t get the hype with Marcus he was one of my least favorite characters.
@@oracleaway it's because he's attractive and has had past trauma from his friend dying i guess that gives you a free pass in climbing through a girl's window at night without getting called out💀
@@niamhharikasen7848 Bye- he is not even attractive he looks like every Wattpad bad boy stereotype. And just because he has trauma doesn’t make him a good characters. People just to ignore the fact how bad he treated his girlfriend
@@oracleaway right, instead of just telling padma that he's feeling something for ginny (for whatever reason you'd fall for a girl who you barely even talked to and on top of that whose only personality trait is that she's a brat) but instead he made her feel like crap, i feel sorry for her.
Totally agree
One thing Ginny and Georgia did really well though was their incorporation of the deaf father. How naturally he was placed within the scenes. They didn't need this huge scene of explaining why he is deaf and how to do sign language and whatever. I loved how naturally the children signed when they spoke at dinner even if they weren't speaking directly to the father. Also when the sister gets put in bed by her brother, they sign to each other even though they don't need to. Whether that was incorporated within the script or suggested by the director, hats off for making it so realistic.
No. I heard they didn’t even bother to properly line up the sign-language that the wife was doing so that it made sense
i know some asl and i understood some of it. also asl isnt a word for word translation of english, its an interpretation of the meaning of a sentance (often in English)
I like how the show contradicts Ginny when she basically says black kids don’t like her. Sometimes it can be true but mostly black kids don’t really notice nor care if your mixed.
Agreed. And I liked the way the character addressed it - she makes it clear that light-skin-privilege is real and she's not going to pretend it isn't, but also that it isn't going to be problem or some big drama between them. It felt so much more realistic as to how people of color talk to each other about race than the oppression olympics scene - like people who have lived around racism their whole lives and didn't just learn about it before writing the scene.
@@camipco it was made by white women, so there’s the reason why it sucks.
Yea and they tried to hang out with her but she blew them off.
I live in South Africa,here it is common to be mixed and have schools with people of all race and no one freaking cares of you're mixed or not. It has never once,in all my years of schooling come up
And you know this because you know every black person on the planet and can 100% speak for all of them or are these more internet "facts".
Girl thank you for bringing up the criticism of minorities talking about being minorities in this show. I’ve seen it elsewhere and it’s such a lazy trope, like we don’t have identities beyond our race. It’s bizarre
EXACTLY. I want to have a good time for once. Like can we at least live in the fictional world
RIGHT! I'm biracial (black & white) and I have no problem talking about race and identity but it's frustrating seeing hollywood make it like that's all we care and think about. Just let us have fun characters😔
@@NessaH thank you! It’s not always about race.
Someone please tell Netflix this isn't how teenagers talk ffs
They was good up until hunter
“You a baddie”
FR. Who says "get juicy with it"?
@@bunnyhungry7367 sksksksks 😭✋
@@bunnyhungry7367 bruh no one even in the fucking 90s would say that shit what the fuck was that line 🤣
Why is no one talking about how toxic MANG is?!?!?
LITERALLY
IKR.
BRO??
Bc I think that was the point. It was stated in the show?
Yes they were
The fact that Ginny the light skin bi-racial girl gets chosen over Padma the South Asian girl whose darker skinned perpetuates the idea that South Asian women are unlovable when she's literally gorgeous and can sing. I hope she finds herself better friends and a good boyfriend.
i totally feel you on this, I’m south asian too and seeing padma, a south asian character being portrayed as this “loose” and “easy going”….doesn’t sit right with me.
It’s south asian, not south east asian but you got a really good point.
@@melongguk8284 it's a common stereotype to over sexualize brown characters in american media
@@melongguk8284 based off their race? Errr
Don’t think it’s that deep but okay
Ginny taking off on the motorcycle with no warning then kissing this dude made my skin crawl
litteraly so disgusting
Straight out of a bad Wattpad book
YES
@@jennellrobinson1264 my thoughts exactly
Jesus loves you
honestly, the way the teenagers in the show talked (particularly MAN) made me wonder if the show was trying to be a satirical, over-the-top take on teenagers?
They’re around my generation and some of us do actually talk like that
It needs to be funny for it to be satire
Also, it is true that some people talk like that, but they do sound just as robotic and “fellow-kidsy” as I’ve been shown in the show
i feel like ginny perceives herself as someone she really isn’t? Like she wants to be perceived as shy, reserved, quirky unique or whatever. But her actions show otherwise. I think that’s why almost everyone is fed up of her in the end. But she still doesn’t realize it’s all her fault.
Jesus loves you
Yes she hides behind a mask. She has said that though during the show.
I like what they were trying to do with Ginny’s character, emphasis on trying. The execution just made her out to be the most stereotypical, bratty, straight out of Wattpad teenage girl. I liked that she mailed Austin’s letters to his dad. It showed she actually cares about her little brother and not just herself. But then they add in the fact that Georgia told her she was abused and Ginny’s response is, “I have a right to know about my family,” girl bye
Austin's dad is in jail. He was probably a bad guy which is why georgia didn't want her kids to contact him.
@@janenewton9960 jut Ginny dint know that because Georgia doesn’t tell her anything
I thought that they were purposely trying to make Ginny more and more unlikeable as the show went on to show that she does bad things as a reflection of the things her mom has done, since parents are usually role models to their children
@@janenewton9960 exactly.. Ginny knew nothing about that stuff bc her mom didn’t tell her and that’s probably bc she didn’t want her kids to be burdened or ruined by the same dark stuff she had to deal with. So I personally think her going off and thinking her mom is just irresponsible and she’s more mature than her and she’s the real parent in the situation and she should mail the letters to his dad who is in PRISON.. didn’t like that..
@@monicasania8539 are you seriously defending ginny right now? She knew that austins dad was in jail
the tap dancing scene was the final straw for me
It was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. I hated it
@@lesbiangoddess290 ikr like what are u doing
It was the song for me 💀
😂😂😂
its like mr schuester from glee was apart of the direction team
I’m bi-racial but Asian(India Asian)-American and usually people think I’m a tanned Chinese person. Like- how much people can be unintentionally racist is SHOCKING
"Unintentionally" 😂
I'm also biracial in predominantly white conservative northern Canada and oh boy, just trying to get my coworkers to not be racist around me is a full time job itself
@@theokunkel I’m not sure how corporate works in Canada, but does your HR department does anything? Sometimes they can help, but it would be good to do in case you need to take legal action. It shows that you did everything you can and that the company was negligent, which sounds like they are.
This is so random, but from your description you sound beautiful
@@audreysstuff awww tyyy u made me smile
@@reddithighlights187 aw no problem haha
I don’t like how they said Ginny doesn’t fit In with the white kids or the black kids but when the black kids try to include her she dismisses them and doesn’t even try to form a relationship with them.
Exactly! Like when she brushed off Bracia multiple times to be with her white friends 😒
@@majolaladipo8563t makes sense. Her mom is white so in my opinion, she identifies more with her white side and white people which is fine. But it’s just annoying how the show tries to make us feel bad because she “doesn’t fit in” with white or black people when she clearly dismissed black people to be friends with white people.
this was just a highly entertaining wattpad story in show format that i inhaled in a day, received 3000 in brain damage, and promptly forgot i experienced
Not the 3000 brain damage😭 impressed you had enough HP for it
Tell me how you got your psych resistance that high? I haven’t seen this show, but that static feeling is already creeping in
I have yet to find a TH-cam video about Ginny and Georgia commenting on how terrible and toxic Maxine is as a friend
Same! I've been looking for it and I just wrote a comment about it because I couldn't find anyone who talks about that
@@maayan3725 I hate how she literally forced Ginny to date hunter but got mad when Ginny liked her brother😀
@@Ram-es3hc Sameee its really annoying
OMG or when maxine suggested she date marcus toward the beginning and then got mad when they were in love??? SO SELFISH. He is her brother, she doesn't own him
@@bissum4227 i think Maxine was mad because of the fact that she was good friends with Ginny yet Ginny never told her about her relationship with Marcus and even lied to her about it
I couldn't even finish this show and after seeing how bad it is, I'm glad. I stopped at the second episode because it was too cringe...
I'm really gonna start watching all these shows so no one else has to lol
@@MyFiveCents please, be our savoir😂
Btw, i like how you talk about the shows! ^^ ♡
@@evedits0277 thank you! lmk if you ever have a show in mind so we can be in pain together
@@MyFiveCents Hmm, the show Julie and the phantoms was kinda wierd and annoying, but I may be wrong because I stopped watching it cause it bored me
@@evedits0277 Noooo JATP is actually a really good show. The fact that it’s a show meant for kids and has better writing, characters, character development, and diversity than this show says a lot.
At one point i started skipping all the ginny's part and solely watched georgia. She had layers to her character and was so much fun to watch. Ginny became ecentric and very annoying later on. [Hated the triangle "love story" btw]. I'd rather watch "never have i ever" for teen drama✌️
Georgia carries the show
Never Have I Ever is SO good!! Loved everything about it
NEVER HAVE I EVER WAS AMAZING BRO. AND IT SHOWS GOOD POC REPRESENTATION WITHOUT THAT MANY STEREOTYPES
OK IM LATE BUT NEVER HAVE I EVER IS 🔛🔝
I felt so bad for Joe, how could she pick Paul over him??
Yes! Joe was so cute, he should be a main character for the next season and have his own journey
She didn't even look at Joe like that
@@ladytesha1 joe and her have a past, they have chemistry, she was just to blind to see it
I dont think she knew it was him😭😭
@@nuhaakmel663 i think they both kinda had their hints about who each other was, like when joe mentioned he had a horse named milkshake she kinda looked like something sparked her memories, and then when ginny pulled out her moms glasses and joe recognized them. i think they both somewhat know but never talked with each other about it
I don't ship Ginny with Marcus or Hunter. Ginny an d Hunter have no personality. Ginny and Marcus are literally just sexual tension no romance whatsoever.
Same here.
yup
right. Like she doesn’t need to be dating anyone she needs to work on her attitude
Exactly
someone had to say it
BYEE every time there’s a Hunter scene I have to skip cause I can’t handle the embarrassment 😭💀
Omg exactly! He’s so cringy 😭
same im dying
I really did tap through 🤣🤣🤣
I can barley breath when you are near 🥵🥵/s
I thought you were explaining how the whole season went not the first episode 😭😭
OH MY GOD ITS NOT THE WHOLE SEASON???
WTF 💀
@@ellasedits_ oh yeah it gets REALLY weird
This is only the first episode!!?
No she also talks about other episodes
thank you for this!! I just can't understand why people love this show and your video brought up some points I agree with heavily! Part 2??
Thank you so much for watching! I definitely had mixed feelings about it because it really did keep me watching until the end lol. I've pretty much said my piece, so maybe stay tuned for a season 2?
PLS!!! My sisters are in love with this show!!! I'm suffering!
Unpopular opinion: I actually really liked the Opression Olympics scene. Like who is Ginny to tell him he's not Asian enough, especially when she doesn't feel black enough. If anyone, I thought Ginny would know just bc you don't follow the stereotypes of your race, it doesn't make you any less. But no, she had to come in with that bs and he sat her down for it (by intentionally using her logic against her). Ginny will bring up race when it benefits her.
Yeah fair, same really. I understand some people are really uncomfortable with what Hunter said, but it was all to make Ginny realize how racist she was being towards Asians. Idk if she would have gotten the point if he just said: "That's racist" to her. But fighting racist perceptions with racism is also seems wrong. Just glad Hunter didn't just take it, it really made me feel like he had a personality for the first time.
I agree
And she had the audacity to say "eXcUsE mE" when he stereotyped he back.
Antonia Gentry is of Jamaican ancestry, which is the reason for the "jerk chicken" line which is super weird because that's the actress, not the character.
It’s not really weird because he said that because she’s half black and black people are supposed to like jerk chicken and stuff like that
@@chickennuggetz5632 the stereotype isn’t jerk chicken it’s fried chicken so that doesn’t make sense
@@blessednotstressed2739 it’s both chicken, is it not?
@@chickennuggetz5632 yes but the specific stereotype is fried chicken. Jerk chicken is linked and associated to Jamaica so that wouldn’t even apply to most black Americans
@@blessednotstressed2739 it really doesn’t matter, the stereotype is black people love chicken ,either type doesn’t change the fact that it’s a stereotype.
Joe was the hottie of the series. He is handsome, has a perfect beard, is caring, cool, he is such a catch, and the series insist in selling the bland oatmeal dude as the hottest.
People forget these are suppose to represent 15 year old kids
bruh I don’t even watch this show I just watch clips of it. When I found out that these characters were supposed to be my age, lemme tell you that I DROPPED DEAD! no freshman would be caught dead acting like any of these characters. Ginny would probably be the most hated person in the class. Marcus, being the conventionally attractive guy he is, would definitely not be the “loner”.
@@nativenewyorker3144 both ginny and max would be classified as the obnoxious kids no one likes
@@user-wc1ue6qe9v I feel like they'd use the word "normies" unironically
But it’s also a fictional show that’s supposed to teach lessons (based on how they presented themselves) so if these kids are 15, going through shit like that, they should show how they overcome it so the 15 year olds it’s targeted towards can learn something from it.
Hahahha "looks too emotionally unavailable to not be Ginny's boyfriend" 😅😂😂😂
The show annoyed me quite a bit, especially that oppression olympics scene. Both hunter and Ginny are in the wrong, just because you like other foods and can’t speak the language doesn’t make you any less of that race and saying horrible stereotypes is absolutely horrible. There’s no excuse.
they didnt even say sorry
Yes!! I’ve never seen a title I’ve related to more. Ginny and Georgia is like a car crash, I can’t watch away. I binged all of this in one night and I can’t stop thinking about it🤪🤣🤣
*look away
This happens to me so often regardless of whether I like the show! just lying awake in bed thinking lol, if only I could use my brain for other things
For older folks the neighbor is also in Twitches. She's one of the guardians for the Mowry twins
omg thank you cause i’ve never watched shits creek
I KNEW she looked familiar!!! Also now I’m “older folks” hahahaha fml 😅😂 great movie
SHEIEEJEB OH MY GOD SHE IS PLS I USED TO WATCH THAT MOVIE SO MUCH
Omg thanks lol I’m old now though
OMG YES I KNOW I KNEW HER
This show was trying to be Gilmore girls but failed in actually picking a niche (friendly small New England town with mother-daughter dynamics and commentary on the complexity of parenting), and grounding the silly story with really great dialogue
it's trying to be gilmore girls, pretty little liars and woke at the same time
I was gonna say this looks like it's trying to be weird woke Gilmore girls. But that shows was amazing because the writing was amazing. This writing looks trash
Very glad you mentioned the absolutely terrible dialogue haha . . . like 90% of the lines were so far removed from the way people normally talk. And also the way they tried to take on a million serious topics without adequately addressing any of them, the way certain characters were one dimensional, and yeah you basically took the words out of my mouth with the rest of your analysis lol.
Marcus is a creep but also really funny and then I feel bad for him-? Idk
The good thing about Ginny and Georgia is the fact that it shows that there is no such thing as good or bad person. Real people make mistakes, they are not perfect. I can't remember when was the last time I saw something like that in a show.
That's a good point, know one was perfect but Joe
@@ladytesha1 Joe is best guy
I just finished this and I'm so mad so i have to put this out there. Ginny was unlikeable, they tried to make her the "not like other girls" so that's already tiring. She thought everything was about her, was mean to almost everyone. Also the fact that she couldn't talk things out but decided to hide everything and then say "I'm so sorry" and cry.
Marcus was a douchebag, he sneaked into her room, had sex and the disappeared, but when Ginny started dating Hunter, he felt in love and jealous out of nowhere. So he's the average idiot.
Hunter was cringy.
Maxine was the worst, she was dumb, forced, tried to be quirky but it was just embarrassing, was mean to people like sam or marcus w/ no reason. Dramatic af, thought she was ginny's owner or some because of how she reacted to the fact of ginny not being a virgin and having sex w/ Marcus, like gurl is not a big deal, she can sleep w/ whoever she wants. Invalidated others feelings. She was just the most irritating character.
Yes I felt like Max was doing too much at times. Though I understand her character and she is young, I still felt she was a bit much at times.
honestly they should have called it georgia & ginny because georgia literally carried the whole show on her back
joe and ellen are literally the best characters pls-
and georgia
Joe
Ellen
Georgia
Zion
Maxine
@@sir.cranberry9727 no no no, Maxine was annoying, rude, and a hot mess, she is definitely not as god tier as Georgia, Ellen, and joe
@@sir.cranberry9727 Nah, Maxine was borderline racist and toxic
@@sir.cranberry9727 Zion is an absent father no
Ginny complains:
Me: I want to slap her in the face 🏃✨
The whole show is just a big compilation of serious topics that didn’t work alongside each other. The two main themes, in my opinion (racial prejudice and self harm) were topics that needed their own show to be done justice.
I’m white, so I can’t comment on the experiencing racial prejudice that the show explores. However, I self-harmed for a number of years, so I am at least equipped to comment on that.
To put it bluntly, Ginny’s struggle with self harm is extremely romantized. Yes, it does provide relief, which I think is what the show was aiming to emphasise, but it isn’t sunshine and rainbows and relief when you self harm. It hurts a lot. I didn’t burn myself like Ginny does in the show, I cut myself, which is a whole lot messier than burning.
Plus the thing where she just...lets Hunter undress her? Fair enough, scars are a lot more noticeable as self harm than burns are, but I wouldn’t let anyone look at me for months.
I could say more about the topic, but I just think it was done poorly as really the issue needs it’s own show and not just to be a subplot in this one.
At the end it's a mess, but I think that is a fun mess to watch.
Your so funny on instagram
I love current mood😏
Georgia was AMAZING in this show
Loved the video!
And damn.. it's really messed up making Ginny talk about the Asian stereotypes as if it's supposed to be some kind of privilege for the Asian community..
The writers shouldn't have started comparing it with the black stereotypes in the first place, because they're both hurtful at the end of the day.
Idk but as a black girl myself I would've loved it if they had shown solidarity (apart from a romantic relationship which didn't even last) between these two races struggling in society, instead of just showing (sadly more) division between them..
But guess that's too much to ask from Netflix's 'teen' shows these days.
Only thing I cared about is joe and Georgia relationship justice for joe 😔
justice for joe chain
a lot of the time some topics feel like they are there to just check a box of "how woke can we be"
The Oppression Olympics caused me to die from second hand embarrassment, come back to life, and then die again.
Ok can I just say also... the way that the teens interact on social media in shows and movies made by adults has always been hilarious to me cause like... no teen talks like this over text and stuff lmao
that “happy Friday” scene made me want to gouge my eyes out 👩🏾🦽
@@nativenewyorker3144 it makes my toes curl whenever someone mentions it ughahahshshah
As someone who is mixed. The show tried to show what it was like, and they definitely got some points. Like Ginny straightening her hair to fit in with the white kids. After COVID started and we were all quarantined, I spent 6 months of that quarantine trying to get my hair healthy again and finally embracing my curly hair…. But then I went back to school. I go to a predominantly white school in the south, so I mainly saw straight hair. I thought my hair looked messy and untamed, so I started straightening my hair again. So that is a very real struggle that me and many other biracial or curly headed ppl go through. And a more accurate way they could’ve shown how people may treat Ginny differently because she is biracial is by showing how a lot of times (idk if this is common in other places, but it is where I live) black people won’t think you’re back enough to date or be friends with, while white people will treat you like some sort of trophy or will straight up forget you’re mixed and will do like hella racist stuff around you. But some other points they could’ve put into the show, is gunny struggling with her culture. Especially since she is raised by a white mom, showing how biracial people can struggle with their culture would be really nice. I lived with the white side of my family until I was 8, and my black dad would send my white aunt money so she could go get someone to out braids in my hair, but she refused because she wanted me to be as white as possible, so even now, when I’m 15 years old, I’m too scared to ask my dad if I get braids or lay my edges. Especially with all the cultural appreciation arguments that have been going in recently. And one other struggle is other people trying to tell you what race you should identify as. One person is saying “if you look white, you need identify as white, if you look black, you need to identify as black” while someone else is saying “you can’t just pick and choose which race you want to identify as because then that means you’re only doing it for your own self gain” BUT THEN SOMEONE ELSE IS SAYING “you can’t identify as biracial because it’s technically not a race, so you have to choose one or the other”. And personally, I’ve been called a mixed breed and a half breed before so they could also put that in the show. This is all based off my personal experience, but I know a lot of biracial people face similar struggles.
The show could have been so much better if it wasn't for that cringy dialogue and representation of teens
Some belated timestamps and socials:
00:00 What's wrong with Ginny and Georgia?
00:17 Ginny and Georgia Taylor Swift controversy
00:31 "Oppression Olympics Let's Go"
00:55 Vulture article on Guy Fieri's Trash Can Nachos
01:05 A quick Ginny and Georgia recap
02:13 Ginny and Georgia characterization
03:15 Ginny's sweater - Easter egg
03:25 The biracial experience
04:59 Ginny & Georgia bad dialogue
05:29 Bad characterization - Max
06:12 Does Ginny have a personality?
06:43 Georgia's character development
08:05 Marcus and Ginny, who's nOt LiKe OtHeR gIrLs
08:45 Subverting a trope or inconsistent characterization?
10:05 Overall Ginny and Georgia analysis
10:54 Blacia was a prop
11:20 Who is Ginny and Georgia for?
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I think the oppression Olympic scene was effective for bringing up the relationship between different people of color because usually on tv if that’s brought up it’s black vs white. Even if it is surface level it may start a conversation
POC don’t fight about who’s more oppressed though, like whyyy?
@@itszyou7528 bruh, I’ve never seen it. And it’s just a dumb argument to have tbh
@@nelsondendomo6687 they definitely do especially on social media.
Finally someone noticed xd imagine if they were to show non-whites being racist and violent against whites. It happens all the time in Africa, Europe and horrible America but it's everything but told to the general public. I think all races deserve the same level of respect and safety, not only blacks or non-whites. Racism is a human issue, not a white issue. Media demonizes whites 24/7 but you can't even dream about having diversity in the Middle East or Asia and that alone speaks tons about who's the least racist group.
@@fatbitch7168 tbf, white or black actors in Asian countries are borderline none-existant. saying more diversity to them is a really difficult if there is no actors to chose from. Not saying they would chose actors of different race if they had them, but we don't really know, because they don't have the possibility.
Honestly this show is a mix between a acid trip and a 12 year old written Wattpad story. And a shitty one with after under tones 😬
Abby is the most realistic character yet
she’s annoying and mean asf tho
Yesss Abby reminded me of people I knew at school
She’s racist bo
@@eli5897 a lot of high school girls are mean and annoying. awful person but pretty realistic.
@unholybrat she was annoying but I wouldn't call her an awful person
I watched a compilation and I was like. What is this????????????
I could not get everyone’s love for it
I mean Marcus definitely wasn't the worst character imo. The climbing in through the window thing has never been cute and will never be cute. But I think he's one of the few characters in this show that made me laugh. His reaction to the tap dancing scene is iconic.
I swear the whole oppression Olympics scene is gross. I'm fully black (Nigerian) so I don't know about being mixed. BUT, I have a very diverse friend group, and its not intentional. We're all white, black, asian, south east asian, etc. And yes, there are privileges that exist in the world that comes with the culture you're born into. But we don't let that ruin our friendship like what? We choose to rise above it, instead of acting trashy like Ginny tf?
That's actually pretty great! Idk if you meant that culture thing as in "it happens everywhere", but yeah: it happens everywhere. Europe and white colonies are not the only places in which minorities might struggle. They are in fact the most open societies in the world, so it's kinda over the top to make it seem like hell for everyone but whites when (believe it or not) white people suffer from racism from certain groups too and that's everything but talked about in the media. Racism is not a white issue, it's a human issue. Anyone can be racist against anyone and anyone can suffer from racism from anyone
@Gloriellee X everyone can be oppressed. Take a look at South Africa, Zimbabwe or Haiti where there was white genocide. Take a look at Europe and America where there are hate crimes against whites with no media coverage or any kind of support
@Gloriellee X they do in non-white majority areas and mass media is 100% anti-white constantly demonizing us, blaming us for everyone's shortcomings and making us seem the worst threat to world peace on earth. Also when there are hate crimes committed against us there's zero media coverage or mass support as it happens to everyone but us, which is everything but being oppressed
@Gloriellee X With this mindset that they can’t be oppressed, people feel it’s okay to attack or verbally attack them because “you can’t be racist to a white person” or “you can oppress the oppressor!”
People's views on Ginny are short sighted. We're meant to hate her for now so we can watch her grow later. Her problems & mindset are presented as petty & angsty and she slowly gets more serious and less naive as she learns her mother's past & face family issues, by the end of the season it's clear that shes gonna endure major character development by s2.
My biggest problem is the two main characters themselves. Ginny is just awful to her mother. As a black fifteen year old girl myself and having grown up with a 56 year old Christian mother and being married to her husband for almost thirty years, I’d kill for a mother like Georgia. Georgia always tells it like it is. She doesn’t sugarcoat everything, but she does encourage and support her children, even going the unconventional route of being a mother (letting Austin punch his bully in the face, how cathartic). She’s even open about things my mother barely talks about, like sex. Ginny doesn’t give a damn, though. She’s jealous and needy and it shows whenever she talks to her mother. She’s disrespectful, rude, inconsiderate, and clearly doesn’t care about her mother’s happiness. I despise girls and boys who treat their moms with contempt.
I don’t know what the writers were on, but they really left out nuance, sophistication and class with mixed raced issues.
Personally, I don’t think Hunter was trying to be offensive in their “oppression olympics” argument, although he did say some pretty hurtful things. It seemed to me like he was purposely using Ginny’s logic. Also, y’all may be right about how essays should be written in a certain format or whatever but even if that were true, it’s clear that the teacher is very racist and biased. There was definitely personal feelings in how he came to his decision.
100% agree
It was offensive. Just because you don’t have that intention does not make it any less racist/hurtful no matter how much you try to justify it
@@monicasania8539 I didn’t say it was not racist. In fact I even said that they were hurtful. I merely stated that Hunter was using Ginny’s logic against her periodt
@@seina659 I think it was purposely racist and over stereotypical to show her how dumb she sounded
@@vivianavilchis3186 Agreed
its mind boggling that the entire cast and production team looked back over the line "oppression olympics, let's go" and thought it was a good idea
7:14 bro I WISH we got more of him he's so cute and even has a short backstory with Georgia
Is he joe?
Netflix has a pattern of hiring mixed women to play black characters while ignoring the fact they’re white passing. So I’m glad they have a mixed character that doesn’t talk about black issues that sound completely tone deaf as if she is oppressed the same way full black people are.
when the opression olympics scene came up I had to watch it multiple times because i was shocked
OK I agree with the part that ginny was terrible, but the way Georgia was handling their life wasn't the best either. I didn't finish the series but I didn't have the motivation or the thrill to do so.
2:59 She's also in the first Twitches movie (Illeana) and it was bothering me for so long because I could not for the life of me figure out where I'd seen her before
The oppression olympics made me lose brain cells, she said he not Asian enough and eat cheeseburgers and he said homie and said Brody twerks better than her 😭😭😭
I'm just waiting for the vampire to show up the the show will be complete
This show is so bad my mom and I binged the whole thing in one day, I’m OBSESSED
i watched until marcus snuck through the window and she slept with him then realized it was a show with 0 comman sense that i couldn’t watch
As a biracial person who went to a predominantly white school. This show was hot garbage.
There's so many subplots that they dropped halfway that makes the show 10000x worse
Max’s main personality trait was being the sidekick gay best friend, and her dialogue and actress just weren’t good
Tbh I get why Taylor swift spoke out... it was a poor and sexist joke that men have used to belittle her throughout her career
i have never seen this show but as a biracial asian and seeing what you've put here all i can say is they they are 100% milking the mixed identity which is honestly so funny
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The fact that this show is getting a second season and I couldn't even finish the first-
i think that padma, joe, and austin were all very ignored who had good personalities and characters. like joe’s only plot line is liking georgia :/
Max was too pushy, she forced Ginny to date Hunter without asking if her so called “new bestfriend” like anyone else, Hunter’s character was so unrealistic no teen say the things he said 😭😭😭
The squishmallow in the background tho-
I qualify as 3+ years old😭
@@MyFiveCents Squishmallows are the best, though, no age limits!!
Georgia and joe were good and they deserved a different show without these clowns so basically the end.
Idk personally I thought most of the stuff they did was intentional I just wish they made ginny learn from it more, like ginny was the most hypocritical character there FJSLKS , Im just waiting for joe and Georgia to get together not to see whatever mess ginny is in😭
That's what I thought too! I don't think the writer's intended for the audience to agree with the things Ginny said, they wanted her to be the main character with flaws as all teenagers are. The things she said just sounded like things an ignorant teenager would say, which is what she is as it also reflects how she is ignorant to her mother being a murder.
Girl you nice and concise with your analysis videos, love it!
i was so angry at Blacia’s character. It was so sloppily put in and was performative.
Oml I never realized that it hinted at her getting SA . Never noticed that
the only thing I like about this show is that it gives my favourite Canadian actors exposure
In that weed scene I was like ‘please don’t have him like Georgia’ and i was very surprised when they didn’t play that story, I felt like they set it up, but I’m glad they didn’t pursue that story line.
I keep saying this show would've been so much better if it was only about georgia, i really like the flashbacks they are way more intresting then the teenagers of the show's drama
They try to be the Gilmore girls and fail miserably
There were probably 2 or 3 people of color in Gilmore Girls which made it hard for me personally to relate to any character on that show. G&G is far from perfect but at least I can see small glimpses of myself in it (which is a sad sentiment in itself if you really think about it) it sucks to be happy about receiving the bare minimum but I’ll take it for now and hope that the show can improve somehow for representations sake💀
Not at all. Y’all see any show I with a young mom & daughter duo and automatically say Gilmore girls. Think of something new bc it’s no similarities...
Ginny taking off at the end of the series with her, like, seven year old brother made me cringe so hard I physically hurt myself