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The thing is this isn't a book that lends itself to a hollywood adaptation. The whole thing is it critques toxic beauty standards for teenage girls but Hollywood's marketing methods rely on exactly what the book is critqueing. It was always doomed to fail
Exactly!! I had this exact conversation with my brother years ago when we first read the series and were like "man, Uglies should get a movie" and then we thought really hard about it and were like "oh, wait..."
And Hollywood simply cannot and will not have anybody “ugly” on screen. The closest we’d get is unique looking people but nobody society deems unattractive. And they would put makeup on them anyway.
the fact that the pretties barely look any different makes it even worse, like they could have made an argument that even beautiful hollywood people are ugly compared to the extreme makeover of the pretties (like is literally said in the book when she sees old magazines) if the pretties were more similar to the book descriptions in having the uncanny extreme proportions designed to make you let down your guard or whatever, then at least there would be enough contrast to justify it to some extent
my issue with the pretties is they dont look freakish enough. like they are supposed to have MUCH MORE exaggerated features then what they did in the show. they are so supposed to look like uncanny elita angel dolls. theres a scene in the books when tally sees a magazine from the rusties (our time period) and finds the MODELS in it ugly.
I feel like they should have their faces filled with Botox, like FILLED TO THE BRIM. That already looks insanely uncanny and would work well as body horror if done well
i think they should’ve chosen like a white cis woman for the role bc like i think the books show how like the uglies surgery and the world is still racist and like that’s the bad thing about it sorry I’m lowkey yapping this could be the worst take ever
It’s even worse when you remember that she’s indoctrinating children into having surgery that messes with their brains in order to control them, and the threat against her regime is something that undoes the surgery. Like i can fully imagine JK Rowling watching this before going on twitter to bully trans people some more It was hopefully unintentional and they just cast Laverne Cox coz she’s great but uh. yeah yikes
The protagonist goes to great lengths chasing after a boy, only for him to forget her after he makes it to the top. Running away in embarrassment and fear, she finds herself whisked to safety and into a happiness montage by a charming short-haired lesbian. Okay, so are we NOT supposed to ship this pairing? I've not watched the movie, but I do have functional eyes during this video.
@@rosessurrectionsuperthorny526 I've said that ships are best treated like waves in the ocean. Just let it wash over or ride it out to its end. You never know what you might like.
The whole "but joey king isn't ugly" thing actually makes sense in the books, where the main character sees a model on a billboard from before the "apocalypse" and is in awe of the way that "uglies" used to be confident enough to be on posters "back in the day." The implication being that what we now consider to be conventionally attractive becomes ugly in that future. The book is supposed to be a commentary on how perfectly attractive features are being more and more pathologized. The books are actually pretty good by pre teen standards, this movie just did an absolutely horrendous job at adapting them.
it's not necessarily that she "isn't ugly" it's that she literally has no flaws. no acne or anything. she also just doesnt look like a teenager..she looks like a model
My issue isn't with the "ugly" characters actually looking good tbh, that makes sense, it's just how the pretties look.. like its just a filter. A better adaptation would make the pretties look almost alien to how real people look, like so "pretty" you can barely realise they were ever human.
Joey King is ugly imo, but I do think it's funny that the Pretty version of her was literally a gold filter and nothing else. Everyone else had a drastic change
So in this completely heterosexual film one girl tells another about a place they can escape to, where they'll be free, and the other essentially says "I don't want to be free. I want to be normal". Right
This movie literally hits the mark tho for people that think they’re ugly or think they have the wrong body 😂😭. Doctors rn are making so much money from trans procedures. Y’all are giving the corrupt more money. More corrupt than oil people.
@@wavyhermit5230 I feel like surgeons make way more money from, y’know, elective plastic surgery on insecure rich people but yeah, go ahead, gimme that antitrans-bait ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's so funny that David's impressed by Tally's not-like-other-girls grit when that's literally what EVERY girl who's part of his group would HAVE to be like in order to survive out in the wilderness
Uglies has literally been adapted into the very thing the original was commenting on Also the book doesn’t directly address racism but if you look into the subtext you can see the racisim of the “pretty” algorithm when shays skin gets lightened to ‘the baseline’, her eyes are widened and the lose their monolid property. The topic of race is discussed in the book just in the subtext not in the direct text since tally doesn’t understand the concept of race in the book. An example is when Tally says that racism in the society is cured that is propaganda fed to her to hide the fact that in itself the concept of Beauty standards are racist
It feels. strange that a black trans woman was cast as the eugenics-loving villain in a movie about children being forced to undergo cosmetic surgeries that control their minds. Like I know that it hopefully wasn’t meant like that but uh. it definitely gives it some uncomfortable subtext
the transphobic people are gonna eat that up and yak it back out onto trans people because you know they’ll make it into some kind of ‘we told you trans people were bad’ thing 🙄
sadly SO many movies like that nowadays. Some get a pass like the batman but a young adult book adaptation during very important scenes should have SOME exposure, don't they think? Not trying to be mean to producers, but seeing a movie shouldn't be too much to ask yfm
Even in a movie about “Uglies” they couldn’t be bothered to cast someone actually unconventionally attractive. This wasn’t a book that should’ve been adapted. They thought they could get away with it but we all said nah and I’m glad we did
Basically, the point of the book is to show that conventionally attractive people are seen as ugly. The pretties are supposed to be unrealistically beautiful that it ends up being scary. There was a scene in the book of an old magazine from our time where Tally describes the people that we see as pretty as ugly. Im not mad btw
the lack of us ugly people in media now is just saddening. i feel more representation in old movies that cast ugly actors as monsters, because even then it indicates there were opportunities in hollywood for people of any appearance. the whole ''its okay looks dont matter everyone is pretty no one is ugly'' mindset is meaningless and lying if you just continue to uphold beauty standards anyway. we just want to feel included 😮💨
i have noticed that in hollywood it's pretty common to have a "hot" cast. in other film industries maybe not so much and there's much more leniency for men to be 'ugly' than women. and since sex sells, what you said is becoming a lot more truer nowadays.
In other countries it’s not as much an issue as it is an America, particularly Hollywood and countries like South Korea. It also seems to mostly be an issue for shows targeting teens which is actually disgusting.
Not to mention, there's no representation of anyone who has different face shapes. I have a round face. A literal circle. And I'm relatively thin despite this(with of course. Some pudge to round things out) but it grinds my gears to see that almost every single person, no matter their weight or size, HAS TO HAVE A DISTINCT JAWLINE. We've gotten to a point where noses are accepted. Big noses, small noses, hooked noses and crooked and straight, but GOD FORBID ANYONE HAVE A ROUND JAWLINE. Not even fat people are allowed to have softer jaws in media!! They're always sculpted out from makeup or they're ready made and built in with the person(which of course. Isn't a problem. Everyone has their own body, and each body has its own way of distributing fat BUT LIKE????) Where are my people with circle faces? Long oval faces? Squared faces? And no not the chiseled diamond jawline square. I mean Holy Shit Is That Minecraft Steve squared faces. Give me variety!!! I'm so tired of being insecure about something that could easily be added into media, and I'm ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that my Shaped Brethren feel the same. If cartoons can do it, so can we. The conventionally attractive people will still be there to film the next movie. But we are a rarity.
@@EranRayeTHANK YOU! Having a moonface has given me serious confidence issues since quite literally *everyone* in media has a jawline that could cut glass. Like, oh my god, can I please have *one* person who looks even remotely like me, please? It feels like I'm a freak because of it all.
27:18 to be in defense of the “contraband” book for a moment, choosing walden was a really interesting choice by the set designers in my opinion. for over a century, the main speculations as to why thoreau wrote the book was that he may have been conducting a sort of social experiment on himself, trying to see if he could manage to live - or even live better - when completely shut out from modern society and the luxuries it has to offer. since the entire concept of the pretty society is how anything you could ever want is at your disposal, completely free of cost (at the cost of their intelligence and individuality), it’s almost a sort of hidden commentary that i find really fascinating
Aquele filtro do tiktok means "That tiktok filter" It's Brazilian Portuguese, in fact here in Brazil this film became a huge joke because of the famous influencers who have the face of a tiktok filter huehue
One of the best videos showing the differences between the book and the movie Is Lavender Townie's video where she draws the description of the characters in the books and gives a very good idea how they probably look compared to the movie and also give more insight on how different the prettys are in the book from normal conventionaly attractive people and it not just it being a bold glammer filter.
The comment on the "uglies" living situation really got me thinking. I think what some distopean stories lack is that grungy "someone-throw-you-a-slice-of-bread-or-youll-die" look and opt for this super high tech and expensive look. What makes the "hunger games" future so much scarier (at least to me) is that most people in america will always be closer to that reality than we ever would be to a "rich" future
I had a similar thought but I wanted to add that it perhaps suggests how out of touch many directors, writers, producers etc are that a concrete boring high rise is their idea of dystopian, 2nd class, poverty stricken environment.
2:20 (brazilian folk talking rn) "aquele filtro do tiktok" (in brazilian portuguese) stands for "that one tiktok filter" (in english). IN THE END WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE BOLD GLAMOUR FILTER THEY'RE USING LOL
10:45 do folks remember when JK Rowling tweeted that she'd "Always pictured Hermione as black." And then she deleted her tweet after someone asked: "Does that include when you described her hair as 'messy'?" 😂
Shay does not feel jealous of Tally, she's definitely jealous of David being allowed to court Tally in this movie instead of being relegated to "wow they're such good friends" territory.
ur eyeshadow is pretty and i love that it matches ur hair. i love ur vids cause im like ive never heard anything about this in my life, oh nikki made a video about it? ok im invested. you do a great job of making things that people might of never heard of interesting. wish you all the best!!!
Call me a hater but when I read this book as an ugly child with severe ocd, you couldn’t pay me not to choose becoming a pretty. Like you mean to tell me all my worries will disappear and I won’t be bullied anymore, sign me up baby. Edit: I literally read the whole series and that was 10 year old me’s take away
I feel like, even as an adult, the choice to become a pretty is actually a little more…wanted? I mean not only do I get to stop being insecure about things like body image and facial features but I also don’t have to worry about money or education or work or anything. I can basically just be beautiful and live in a Dubai-esque city partying the entire time. Who the fuck wouldn’t want that? lmao
@@saloosh777 Real, attractive people don't realise how good they actually have it. Then again, a whole lot of people who have been attractive their whole lives start having crises when they start aging.
See that would be different for me because I don't wanna be attractive to anyone so becoming "prettier" for people to potentially have a crush on me is scary. These are the Aroace horrors that could've been explored but we don't get much recognised. Shame.
@saloosh777 To be honest, I have a dream job in the back of my mind and I would hate to live without purpose. Also, partying all day would become boring ngl. And I'm more of an introvert so I would rather have more alone time than party with strangers. I also think that education is important and I like learning stuff, so sign me out.
im pretty sure the necklace sent a signal that it had been destroyed, and cable followed that signal to the last known location of the necklace. i read this FOREVER ago, but if i remember correctly, cable EXPECTED tally to eventually defect and destroy the necklace.
The book/movie glossing over the racial implications of beauty standards being essentially Caucasian features, but also the character's "ugly" nicknames are "Squint" (because of squinty eyes) and "Nose" (because of big nose) is... Interesting... Especially since many of the principal cast are either Asian or black...
Iirc the book does explicitly mention that the mirror thingy they play around with “fixes” Shay’s skin to be lighter but I don’t think it’s addressed much outside of that? So still bad but the book seemed at least a bit more self aware
If you thought 'Uglies' was a wild book by Scott Westerfield. His book 'Peeps' is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay crazier. He didn't just try to capitalize on the dystopia genre. Peeps is a vampire romance novel, but there is a twist. You don't become a vampire by being bit. Instead, vampirism is passed as an STD. Absolutely wild
I haven’t finished the video but I’m kinda wondering why people don’t talk about how gay Tally and Shay were for most of the movie? Tally’s relationship with David felt out of nowhere and honestly I was envisioning a much older guy from the way they described him
@@Fstop313 People who watch movie reviews don't always know the book the movie it is based on ... they also don't always know the movie that is reviewed.
@@silent935 there are many relationships in these books platonic and romantic but I feel like the dystopian society and horrors are more of the focus here. It’s an incredible series and I won’t stand for it being reduced to petty romantic stuff that isn’t even the focus
Since mortal instruments was just mentioned I must add in that the incest thing between the mc and her not-brother is a Major plot point in multiple of the books and its also not the only incest plot. I'm legally obligated to mention it because I read most of that series in highschool and the pain haunts me
Omg yeah. I love the shadowhunter books, but the mortal instruments is the worst of the worst series in that universe. I read it as a preteen and never opened it again.
i’m like 99% sure that author has a history of writing incest plots prior to the shadowhunter books. which i think is yucky but it’s so much yuckier to include your fetish into your books who’s main demographic is minors. i know some people will argue it’s a young adult series but we all recognize it’s mostly teenagers. and maybe i am shaming but i find it disgusting to fetishize incest at all BUT if you’re going to do it, can’t you keep it separate?
@@mr.bingusthecat To be fair, as far as I know of 'before' she wrote that in fanfiction (though she has denied ever writing it and I have never seen concrete proof of anything so can't comment) and not in an actual book, which is a vastly different world and should not be judged with published writing content standards of morality. She has since said though that she regrets a lot of what she wrote in mortal instruments, and as a reader of her current other series I can atleast attest that no weird gross plots like this have occurred and her writing has vastly improved in the decades since. That's not to say that she doesn't have many other problems but yeah. Hopefully this makes sense haha Edited for grammatical errors
As soon as it was like maybe he’s her brother in the books and it got at all confusing about that fact, I was like I don’t need this in my life, and just read the Wikipedia plot summaries for the rest of the books lmao, I cannot stand incest/pseudo-incest romance plot lines, it’s too yuck for me.
Girl we need a follow up video for the Jeffree star series! Especially now that he’s trying to do a comeback with the beauty killer palette/revamp of his old music career.
I want to know where the parents are. Like only pretty people can have kids right unless like teen pregnancy? But then the children would be uglies so do you just send your baby off to Ugly Town? Ive never read the book or seen the movie but im suuuuper confused about the logistics lol
parents live in basically the suburbs and keep their kids (littlies) with them until they’re 12?, if i remember correctly, and then they go to uglyville until they can get the surgery. littlies “ugly” features are seen as cute though until they start going through puberty. highly recommend the books though tbh n_n
@@sagebrielle5385I've actually added the books to my reading list! The idea of exploring/criticizing beauty standards in this way sounds really interesting
Basically pretties get another surgery where they turn into "middle pretties" and move to the suburbs, and at that point they do get jobs and also reproduce. As said above, the "littles" live with their parents until 12 and then go to uglyville. And when they become seniors they become late pretties 😂
It's been ages since I read the books, but I think I remember enough to explain decently well: So, when you turn 16, you get the operation and become a Pretty, and then you move to the other side of the river to Pretty Town. You then spend the next, like, 14 years (I don't remember the exact amount of time) partying, drinking, and getting weird, freaky, cosmetic surgeries, and then when you hit thirty or so, you move to a different part of the city that's basically suburbia, get married, have a kid who is considered an Ugly, they live with you until they're like 12 or something, and then you send them off to Ugly Town where they live in dorms and go to school until they turn 16 and go off to get the Pretty surgery, and then the cycle repeats. While you're in Ugly Town, your parents can visit you, but you can't visit them, and then when you move to Pretty Town, you can never go back to Ugly Town or where you lived with your parents until it's time for you to have kids. Hope that clears things up.
"CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT NIKKI!!!!!!" We all say with tears in our orbs and joyfull smiles, the sky is the colour of cat vomit, the wind of autumn flows her beautiful hair.
Okay but 'The Giver' is such a good book, the movie gave it no justice. In the movie they changed the best part of the plot. I hope u can make a video comparing them 😭😭
00:40 The way i only know "Mortal Instruments" as "that book that apparently started as a Ron/Ginny Weasley incest fan fiction by a middle aged harry potter fan in the early 00s"
Of all the Scott Westerfield books to adapt they had to choose this??? Bro I stg if they chose the leviathan series we’d be having a WAYYYY different conversation.
Me and my boyfriend are going to watch this once he gets to my apartment! We’ve been looking forward to a new upload, we love your videos you’re too funny!
When I watched this with my friend we also 100% thought Shay was in love with Tali LOL 😂 I've never read the book so I like that you keep giving tidbits about what's different or not. Ty!!
Also wanted to drop here that like… the plot of uglies is almost ENTIRELY the plot of the Twilight Zone’s “Number 12 Looks Just Like You.” The author even admitted that he’d seen it when he was younger,, like even the original BOOK is another concept done arguably (arguably, because know the twilight zone is really direct and doesn’t have a lot of nuance) worse. 😋😁
It also reminded me of Eye of the Beholder also from Twilight Zone, which gets the idea that beauty doesnt have to what we think as beautiful but instead more monstrous in our opinions
Everytime I see you, first thing I look at is your hair like it amazes me- every video you have diff colored hair or a diff haircut 😭🙏 ALSO CONGRATS ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT OMG??? 😭😭🙏
Your ad about Pie is the first ever youtube ad in my LIFE I haven't skipped. You make anything entertaining I was was literally chuckling to your ad LOL
i'm guessing they were trying to build off of the hype that The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes got (teen dystopian book from 2020 which is a prequel to the hunger games trilogy) but they managed to fail miserably, which isn't out of character for netflix to do!
I'm so glad to have found this channel through Twitter. The zionist dunks were just my way of knowing morally that this channel is sound and the content especially from a video like this? I'm here for it! It's funny how many channels you go through with similar content to this in that it's detailing a film and it's writing but dunking on when it falls apart and falls short but this channel feels like it had more to say than those and I'm always loving longer vids!
Jeffree Star Part 3 is coming on November 15th ⭐️ and (surprise hehe) An Unhinged Shane Dawson Deepdive Part 1 is coming out November 30th! Thank you guys so much for being excited for the series to continue, November yall are gonna EAT!
Bros doing everything but that jeffree star video
Jk jk I love ur videos ❤
@@nikkicarreon thank you for feeding us queen
@@nikkicarreon THANK YOU FOR FEEDING US MOTHER
Thank you 🙏🙏😭
This gag… 🙏🏼
The thing is this isn't a book that lends itself to a hollywood adaptation. The whole thing is it critques toxic beauty standards for teenage girls but Hollywood's marketing methods rely on exactly what the book is critqueing. It was always doomed to fail
Exactly!! I had this exact conversation with my brother years ago when we first read the series and were like "man, Uglies should get a movie" and then we thought really hard about it and were like "oh, wait..."
And Hollywood simply cannot and will not have anybody “ugly” on screen. The closest we’d get is unique looking people but nobody society deems unattractive. And they would put makeup on them anyway.
the fact that the pretties barely look any different makes it even worse, like they could have made an argument that even beautiful hollywood people are ugly compared to the extreme makeover of the pretties (like is literally said in the book when she sees old magazines) if the pretties were more similar to the book descriptions in having the uncanny extreme proportions designed to make you let down your guard or whatever, then at least there would be enough contrast to justify it to some extent
he copied the American dinner Jane and John q watermelon cover with he’s new makeup palette
and how the pretties are morally gray, by having them be environmentally better than rebels
my issue with the pretties is they dont look freakish enough. like they are supposed to have MUCH MORE exaggerated features then what they did in the show. they are so supposed to look like uncanny elita angel dolls.
theres a scene in the books when tally sees a magazine from the rusties (our time period) and finds the MODELS in it ugly.
I feel like they should have their faces filled with Botox, like FILLED TO THE BRIM. That already looks insanely uncanny and would work well as body horror if done well
I so badly wanted them all to look like people from the capitol in the hunger games! I was so disappointed, the visuals could have been done so well 😢
They should look less “yass queen” and more “uncanny valley”
I always imagined the guys looked like those insane photoshopped gangster emo Jungkook edits people on twitter would make
They Look like MMO-RPG characters
in an video game like Cyberpunk or Saints Row.
Having a black trans woman be the head of the anti discrimination via eugenics surgery was CERTAINLY a choice
Yep but I've seen interviews with her and she's the one that really wanted the role and I mean she did serve, but yeah, interesting choice 😅
i think they should’ve chosen like a white cis woman for the role bc like i think the books show how like the uglies surgery and the world is still racist and like that’s the bad thing about it sorry I’m lowkey yapping this could be the worst take ever
It’s even worse when you remember that she’s indoctrinating children into having surgery that messes with their brains in order to control them, and the threat against her regime is something that undoes the surgery. Like i can fully imagine JK Rowling watching this before going on twitter to bully trans people some more
It was hopefully unintentional and they just cast Laverne Cox coz she’s great but uh. yeah yikes
@@Catsmakemeselfconscious "lowkey yapping" and its like a sentence long 😭😭😭😭
Yapping can mean talking nonsense too
The protagonist goes to great lengths chasing after a boy, only for him to forget her after he makes it to the top. Running away in embarrassment and fear, she finds herself whisked to safety and into a happiness montage by a charming short-haired lesbian.
Okay, so are we NOT supposed to ship this pairing? I've not watched the movie, but I do have functional eyes during this video.
Have you not read the book
@@Fstop313 This might be a joke, but shipping doesn't respect canon, it is an uncontrollable force of nature.
@@rosessurrectionsuperthorny526that might be my new favorite subscription of shipping 😂 it's so accurate
@@rosessurrectionsuperthorny526
I've said that ships are best treated like waves in the ocean. Just let it wash over or ride it out to its end. You never know what you might like.
i shipped it until the main love interest started dominating and i realized that’s what the writers wanted lollll
The whole "but joey king isn't ugly" thing actually makes sense in the books, where the main character sees a model on a billboard from before the "apocalypse" and is in awe of the way that "uglies" used to be confident enough to be on posters "back in the day." The implication being that what we now consider to be conventionally attractive becomes ugly in that future. The book is supposed to be a commentary on how perfectly attractive features are being more and more pathologized. The books are actually pretty good by pre teen standards, this movie just did an absolutely horrendous job at adapting them.
it's not necessarily that she "isn't ugly" it's that she literally has no flaws. no acne or anything. she also just doesnt look like a teenager..she looks like a model
literally, i remember having to read this in english class, the book was too good lowkey. show did not do it justice
@@marz33231I feel like an animated show would really fit that book series.
My issue isn't with the "ugly" characters actually looking good tbh, that makes sense, it's just how the pretties look.. like its just a filter. A better adaptation would make the pretties look almost alien to how real people look, like so "pretty" you can barely realise they were ever human.
Joey King is ugly imo, but I do think it's funny that the Pretty version of her was literally a gold filter and nothing else. Everyone else had a drastic change
So in this completely heterosexual film one girl tells another about a place they can escape to, where they'll be free, and the other essentially says "I don't want to be free. I want to be normal". Right
It's giving "all the things she said" by tatu
Shay saw the TV glow
teen dystopian is just every netflix show with adults as fifteen year olds who do heroin instead of homework 😭😭
Basically Tom Levinson's work for the past decade.
basically euphoria
Adults as teens has been a thing for like 30 years it’s nothing new
This movie literally hits the mark tho for people that think they’re ugly or think they have the wrong body 😂😭. Doctors rn are making so much money from trans procedures. Y’all are giving the corrupt more money. More corrupt than oil people.
@@wavyhermit5230 I feel like surgeons make way more money from, y’know, elective plastic surgery on insecure rich people but yeah, go ahead, gimme that antitrans-bait ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Everyone labeled an 'ugly' in this movie could still make my body dysmorphia start ringing like a bell" you're so real for that Nikki😅😅😅
Frrrrr il literally questioning wether I’ll be one of the pretties or uglies eugh😓
@@reitheepicXDwe’d be in an entirely different category 😭
It's so funny that David's impressed by Tally's not-like-other-girls grit when that's literally what EVERY girl who's part of his group would HAVE to be like in order to survive out in the wilderness
Nah forreal they don’t go together at all
I think he’s more so impressed a city girl can possess those skills naturally, but its still a dumb plot point
Uglies has literally been adapted into the very thing the original was commenting on
Also the book doesn’t directly address racism but if you look into the subtext you can see the racisim of the “pretty” algorithm when shays skin gets lightened to ‘the baseline’, her eyes are widened and the lose their monolid property. The topic of race is discussed in the book just in the subtext not in the direct text since tally doesn’t understand the concept of race in the book. An example is when Tally says that racism in the society is cured that is propaganda fed to her to hide the fact that in itself the concept of Beauty standards are racist
It feels. strange that a black trans woman was cast as the eugenics-loving villain in a movie about children being forced to undergo cosmetic surgeries that control their minds. Like I know that it hopefully wasn’t meant like that but uh. it definitely gives it some uncomfortable subtext
Ik the transphobes will be all over that shit
"black trans woman cast as a eugenics loving villain" might be the worst sentence i've read today
I feel you, I feel like this book has a great premise and the movie looks troublesome at every turn literally
the transphobic people are gonna eat that up and yak it back out onto trans people because you know they’ll make it into some kind of ‘we told you trans people were bad’ thing 🙄
It feels somewhat intentional
I'm so confused on why they did not just make this an animated movie. It would've 100% performed so much better.
exactly i agree
Why is it so DARK, I couldn't see the film for the life of me
FOR REAL WHY ARE SO MANY MOVIES LIKE THAT I CANT EVEN SEE 😭😭
hollywood stopped hiring colour graders when they realised they could cut even more creatives out of filmmaking 🙄
probably to cover up the bad cgi tbh (and obviously no hate to the animators)
Turn up your brightness, I had no issue watching tf
sadly SO many movies like that nowadays. Some get a pass like the batman but a young adult book adaptation during very important scenes should have SOME exposure, don't they think? Not trying to be mean to producers, but seeing a movie shouldn't be too much to ask yfm
Even in a movie about “Uglies” they couldn’t be bothered to cast someone actually unconventionally attractive. This wasn’t a book that should’ve been adapted. They thought they could get away with it but we all said nah and I’m glad we did
Basically, the point of the book is to show that conventionally attractive people are seen as ugly. The pretties are supposed to be unrealistically beautiful that it ends up being scary. There was a scene in the book of an old magazine from our time where Tally describes the people that we see as pretty as ugly. Im not mad btw
the lack of us ugly people in media now is just saddening. i feel more representation in old movies that cast ugly actors as monsters, because even then it indicates there were opportunities in hollywood for people of any appearance. the whole ''its okay looks dont matter everyone is pretty no one is ugly'' mindset is meaningless and lying if you just continue to uphold beauty standards anyway. we just want to feel included 😮💨
i have noticed that in hollywood it's pretty common to have a "hot" cast. in other film industries maybe not so much and there's much more leniency for men to be 'ugly' than women. and since sex sells, what you said is becoming a lot more truer nowadays.
In other countries it’s not as much an issue as it is an America, particularly Hollywood and countries like South Korea. It also seems to mostly be an issue for shows targeting teens which is actually disgusting.
literally, show me a normal person just once, I dare you
Not to mention, there's no representation of anyone who has different face shapes. I have a round face. A literal circle. And I'm relatively thin despite this(with of course. Some pudge to round things out) but it grinds my gears to see that almost every single person, no matter their weight or size, HAS TO HAVE A DISTINCT JAWLINE.
We've gotten to a point where noses are accepted. Big noses, small noses, hooked noses and crooked and straight, but GOD FORBID ANYONE HAVE A ROUND JAWLINE. Not even fat people are allowed to have softer jaws in media!! They're always sculpted out from makeup or they're ready made and built in with the person(which of course. Isn't a problem. Everyone has their own body, and each body has its own way of distributing fat BUT LIKE????)
Where are my people with circle faces? Long oval faces? Squared faces? And no not the chiseled diamond jawline square. I mean Holy Shit Is That Minecraft Steve squared faces.
Give me variety!!! I'm so tired of being insecure about something that could easily be added into media, and I'm ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that my Shaped Brethren feel the same.
If cartoons can do it, so can we. The conventionally attractive people will still be there to film the next movie. But we are a rarity.
@@EranRayeTHANK YOU! Having a moonface has given me serious confidence issues since quite literally *everyone* in media has a jawline that could cut glass. Like, oh my god, can I please have *one* person who looks even remotely like me, please? It feels like I'm a freak because of it all.
27:18 to be in defense of the “contraband” book for a moment, choosing walden was a really interesting choice by the set designers in my opinion. for over a century, the main speculations as to why thoreau wrote the book was that he may have been conducting a sort of social experiment on himself, trying to see if he could manage to live - or even live better - when completely shut out from modern society and the luxuries it has to offer. since the entire concept of the pretty society is how anything you could ever want is at your disposal, completely free of cost (at the cost of their intelligence and individuality), it’s almost a sort of hidden commentary that i find really fascinating
Aquele filtro do tiktok means "That tiktok filter" It's Brazilian Portuguese, in fact here in Brazil this film became a huge joke because of the famous influencers who have the face of a tiktok filter huehue
And now the French music behind the comment is even fucking funnier now 😂😂 thank u
Nos brs fas da Nikki amoooo
@@3.1414pi amoo
nunca esperei ver a nikki falando portugues do nadaHKKKKKKK
@@3.1414pi ela é tudo né ganho anos de vida cada vídeo dela
One of the best videos showing the differences between the book and the movie Is Lavender Townie's video where she draws the description of the characters in the books and gives a very good idea how they probably look compared to the movie and also give more insight on how different the prettys are in the book from normal conventionaly attractive people and it not just it being a bold glammer filter.
The comment on the "uglies" living situation really got me thinking. I think what some distopean stories lack is that grungy "someone-throw-you-a-slice-of-bread-or-youll-die" look and opt for this super high tech and expensive look. What makes the "hunger games" future so much scarier (at least to me) is that most people in america will always be closer to that reality than we ever would be to a "rich" future
I had a similar thought but I wanted to add that it perhaps suggests how out of touch many directors, writers, producers etc are that a concrete boring high rise is their idea of dystopian, 2nd class, poverty stricken environment.
YES!! Exactly this.
2:20
(brazilian folk talking rn)
"aquele filtro do tiktok" (in brazilian portuguese) stands for "that one tiktok filter" (in english).
IN THE END WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE BOLD GLAMOUR FILTER THEY'RE USING LOL
10:45 do folks remember when JK Rowling tweeted that she'd "Always pictured Hermione as black."
And then she deleted her tweet after someone asked: "Does that include when you described her hair as 'messy'?"
😂
Everything JK does pisses me off, unconditionally
@@Snubney She's an awful, inadequate human being.
Trans lives matter. Trans hearts matter. Trans is beautiful. 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Or the fact that JK herself drew Hermione as white... 🫣
also her hand or arm was described as white i think
She does understand she’s the author and could write her as black, right? 😭😭
“Writer accidentally makes a great sapphic love story but go with the no-chemistry generic male love interest instead” part:??????
Shay does not feel jealous of Tally, she's definitely jealous of David being allowed to court Tally in this movie instead of being relegated to "wow they're such good friends" territory.
Yass
For a second, I thought tally like David, but then I realize wait a minute
Shay turned into the very thing she rebelled against is by becoming a pretty .
ur eyeshadow is pretty and i love that it matches ur hair. i love ur vids cause im like ive never heard anything about this in my life, oh nikki made a video about it? ok im invested. you do a great job of making things that people might of never heard of interesting. wish you all the best!!!
Call me a hater but when I read this book as an ugly child with severe ocd, you couldn’t pay me not to choose becoming a pretty. Like you mean to tell me all my worries will disappear and I won’t be bullied anymore, sign me up baby.
Edit: I literally read the whole series and that was 10 year old me’s take away
I feel like, even as an adult, the choice to become a pretty is actually a little more…wanted? I mean not only do I get to stop being insecure about things like body image and facial features but I also don’t have to worry about money or education or work or anything. I can basically just be beautiful and live in a Dubai-esque city partying the entire time. Who the fuck wouldn’t want that? lmao
@@saloosh777 Real, attractive people don't realise how good they actually have it.
Then again, a whole lot of people who have been attractive their whole lives start having crises when they start aging.
ME 👏🏾 FUCKING 👏🏾 TOO
I was like, “I could get surgery to fix my ugly teeth and skin??!!”
See that would be different for me because I don't wanna be attractive to anyone so becoming "prettier" for people to potentially have a crush on me is scary. These are the Aroace horrors that could've been explored but we don't get much recognised. Shame.
@saloosh777 To be honest, I have a dream job in the back of my mind and I would hate to live without purpose. Also, partying all day would become boring ngl. And I'm more of an introvert so I would rather have more alone time than party with strangers. I also think that education is important and I like learning stuff, so sign me out.
im pretty sure the necklace sent a signal that it had been destroyed, and cable followed that signal to the last known location of the necklace. i read this FOREVER ago, but if i remember correctly, cable EXPECTED tally to eventually defect and destroy the necklace.
Yup. She should have buried it somewhere or something.
Maybe the real uglies was the friends we made along the way
that one tweet
LMAOOOOO
The book/movie glossing over the racial implications of beauty standards being essentially Caucasian features, but also the character's "ugly" nicknames are "Squint" (because of squinty eyes) and "Nose" (because of big nose) is... Interesting...
Especially since many of the principal cast are either Asian or black...
Iirc the book does explicitly mention that the mirror thingy they play around with “fixes” Shay’s skin to be lighter but I don’t think it’s addressed much outside of that? So still bad but the book seemed at least a bit more self aware
If you thought 'Uglies' was a wild book by Scott Westerfield. His book 'Peeps' is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay crazier. He didn't just try to capitalize on the dystopia genre. Peeps is a vampire romance novel, but there is a twist. You don't become a vampire by being bit. Instead, vampirism is passed as an STD. Absolutely wild
Yo I remember that plot in a webcomic my friend showed me lol
This actually sounds so funny now I wanna read it 😭
HELP??? thats…a concept for sure
they should make health classes read this book since they bring up so much fear mongering of sex anyways
@@HazZzel-STDs sounds funny? 😅
26:07 this is too real bc so many characters in hollywood movies that have WAY to much sexual tension to be just platonic
NIKKI IS ENGAGED!!!! She deserves it sm, congratulations girlie
🥹 Jus noticed
OMGG WHAA
Girl thank you I was scrolling through all these comments trying to figure out if I was crazy 😭
IM SO HAPPY FOR HER
Let’s freaxing go
36:23 nah whoever took that picture is EVIL 😭💀💀
I haven’t finished the video but I’m kinda wondering why people don’t talk about how gay Tally and Shay were for most of the movie? Tally’s relationship with David felt out of nowhere and honestly I was envisioning a much older guy from the way they described him
for real the story literally would’ve made so much more sense if tally was in love with shay
Have you not read the book
@@Fstop313whats in the book?
@@Fstop313 People who watch movie reviews don't always know the book the movie it is based on ... they also don't always know the movie that is reviewed.
@@silent935 there are many relationships in these books platonic and romantic but I feel like the dystopian society and horrors are more of the focus here. It’s an incredible series and I won’t stand for it being reduced to petty romantic stuff that isn’t even the focus
Fighting discrimination with eugenics is insane 😭🤚
they made my masc lesbian a femme 😔😔
😤
Not me thinking it will be a lesbian movie
Forgetting homophobic bitches
worse THEY MADE HER STRAIGHT
@SonoBerry 😭😭😭 nooooooooooooooooo I can't
i haven't watched the video or the movie yet but im always saying tally and shay should have been lesbians
"THEY'RE PUTTIN CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT ARE TURNING THE FRIGGIN LESBIANS MASC"
The editing and commentary in this vid had me in literal tears 😭.. also congrats on the engagement!!!
Since mortal instruments was just mentioned I must add in that the incest thing between the mc and her not-brother is a Major plot point in multiple of the books and its also not the only incest plot. I'm legally obligated to mention it because I read most of that series in highschool and the pain haunts me
Omg yeah. I love the shadowhunter books, but the mortal instruments is the worst of the worst series in that universe. I read it as a preteen and never opened it again.
i’m like 99% sure that author has a history of writing incest plots prior to the shadowhunter books. which i think is yucky but it’s so much yuckier to include your fetish into your books who’s main demographic is minors. i know some people will argue it’s a young adult series but we all recognize it’s mostly teenagers. and maybe i am shaming but i find it disgusting to fetishize incest at all BUT if you’re going to do it, can’t you keep it separate?
@@mr.bingusthecat To be fair, as far as I know of 'before' she wrote that in fanfiction (though she has denied ever writing it and I have never seen concrete proof of anything so can't comment) and not in an actual book, which is a vastly different world and should not be judged with published writing content standards of morality. She has since said though that she regrets a lot of what she wrote in mortal instruments, and as a reader of her current other series I can atleast attest that no weird gross plots like this have occurred and her writing has vastly improved in the decades since. That's not to say that she doesn't have many other problems but yeah. Hopefully this makes sense haha
Edited for grammatical errors
As soon as it was like maybe he’s her brother in the books and it got at all confusing about that fact, I was like I don’t need this in my life, and just read the Wikipedia plot summaries for the rest of the books lmao, I cannot stand incest/pseudo-incest romance plot lines, it’s too yuck for me.
@@xbluebirdxWhat newer work of hers would you recommend? 🫶🏼
when i say i’ve watched NO ONE else’s video about this, and i’ve BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY for you to drop your take, I MEAN IT I AM HYYYPPPPEEEE
2:20 the french esque music with the portuguese comment is killing me😭
LMAO I WAS SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT IT, I'M BRAZILIAN
@@sushitheus eu tbm😭😭😭
@@kolcheks exactly!! LOL
@@sushitheus KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@@sushitheus eu também, dei uma boa risada KKKKKKKKKK
It’s so nice to see you recovering and having a life full of love!! You shine so bright, congratulations!!
Girl we need a follow up video for the Jeffree star series! Especially now that he’s trying to do a comeback with the beauty killer palette/revamp of his old music career.
literallyyy
TV GIRL FAN @@ILTVGIRL
Hey so maybe you should watch till the end queen
bro did NOT watch the video
I’m feeling like he sent Nikki a cease and desist 😂
Congratulations on your engagement!!
I want to know where the parents are. Like only pretty people can have kids right unless like teen pregnancy? But then the children would be uglies so do you just send your baby off to Ugly Town? Ive never read the book or seen the movie but im suuuuper confused about the logistics lol
parents live in basically the suburbs and keep their kids (littlies) with them until they’re 12?, if i remember correctly, and then they go to uglyville until they can get the surgery. littlies “ugly” features are seen as cute though until they start going through puberty. highly recommend the books though tbh n_n
@@sagebrielle5385I've actually added the books to my reading list! The idea of exploring/criticizing beauty standards in this way sounds really interesting
Basically pretties get another surgery where they turn into "middle pretties" and move to the suburbs, and at that point they do get jobs and also reproduce. As said above, the "littles" live with their parents until 12 and then go to uglyville. And when they become seniors they become late pretties 😂
It's been ages since I read the books, but I think I remember enough to explain decently well:
So, when you turn 16, you get the operation and become a Pretty, and then you move to the other side of the river to Pretty Town. You then spend the next, like, 14 years (I don't remember the exact amount of time) partying, drinking, and getting weird, freaky, cosmetic surgeries, and then when you hit thirty or so, you move to a different part of the city that's basically suburbia, get married, have a kid who is considered an Ugly, they live with you until they're like 12 or something, and then you send them off to Ugly Town where they live in dorms and go to school until they turn 16 and go off to get the Pretty surgery, and then the cycle repeats.
While you're in Ugly Town, your parents can visit you, but you can't visit them, and then when you move to Pretty Town, you can never go back to Ugly Town or where you lived with your parents until it's time for you to have kids.
Hope that clears things up.
Same
Congrats on your engagement!! Also did anyone else think that the friend dude looked like Ellen DeGeneres after the surgery or was it just me?
I am 3 weeks late to watching this but CONRATSSSS on the engagement, I am so happy for you 🥺🥺
41:30 out of pocket but i genuinely thought that was Kurtis Conner for a second 😭😭😭
SAME
100 percent 😭
Same, I had to rewind and pause!!!
😂Same
im so shocked that we just got this kurtis conner doppelganger moment
CONGRATULATIONS GIRL 1:04:08
Nikki consistently pumping out 1 hour+ bangers 🙂↕️
"CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT NIKKI!!!!!!" We all say with tears in our orbs and joyfull smiles, the sky is the colour of cat vomit, the wind of autumn flows her beautiful hair.
Omg seriously though congratulations on your engagement!!!!
Very fitting for Joey to be a co producer to film about eugenics
Shay being one of the uglies is just outrageous. NO WAY.
it's a crying shame that the uglies was turned into a movie instead of the leviathan series :/ also congrats on your engagement!!!
The Leviathan series is criminally underrated, and would’ve made a really cool and original adaptation ❤
I'm not sure if you're aware, but Leviathan is being made into an animated show, produced by Netflix.
Okay but 'The Giver' is such a good book, the movie gave it no justice. In the movie they changed the best part of the plot. I hope u can make a video comparing them 😭😭
“We all have to work, even our elders”
Yeah sorry that would’ve had me nope out instantly. If old people gotta work then your society sucks balls 💀
just like our capitalist society we currently live in. shit sux
your @ is literally perfect
May as well have said "we all have to work, even our handicapped"
oh the joy i feel when you upload a video and its over an hour...I LOVE IT!!
00:40 The way i only know "Mortal Instruments" as "that book that apparently started as a Ron/Ginny Weasley incest fan fiction by a middle aged harry potter fan in the early 00s"
wait that’s wilddd
I am now cursed with this knowledge.
It's fine I didn't want my eyes anyway
Wait, what?!
oh you guys who don’t know. you gotta do some research bc this shit is bonkers
OMGG NIKI CONGRATS ON YOUR ENGAGMENT!!✨
OMG WAKE UP SHE POSTED
I would of gotten the lobotomy bro, that “prettyville” place looks great lmao
Congrats on the engagement!!! Wishing you two all the best! ❤❤❤
Congratulations Nikki! So happy to see you in a happy and healthy relationship!
2:20 I'M BRAZILIAN!! I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS!! "That one filter from tiktok"
OI CARO BRASILEIRO
@@internetgraves brasileiro tá em todo lugar mesmo ne, incrível hjahahahahahahha
congrats on getting engaged queen!!!
0:48 NOOOO you just unlocked my teenage memories of obsessing with mortal instruments for no reason💀😭😂
I stand by that being a good movie 💀💀
@@toebiter69 it was a great book, but the movie not so much😂💀
The uglies movie is like if someone made a satirical parody of ya dystopias but its genuine, which is wild to me
Of all the Scott Westerfield books to adapt they had to choose this??? Bro I stg if they chose the leviathan series we’d be having a WAYYYY different conversation.
Netflix is producing an animated adaptation of Leviathan; It's coming out in 2025
"aquele filtro do tiktok" literally means "that one tiktok filter" LMAOOOOO
“You don’t have to trust me, you just have to follow me” 😂???
Yeah the logic ain't logicing
Never understood that line either 😭
2:20 the french (?) accent with a portuguese review absolute killed me 😭
Me and my boyfriend are going to watch this once he gets to my apartment! We’ve been looking forward to a new upload, we love your videos you’re too funny!
nikki i love you ive watched over 6 hours worth of your content in the past few days
When I watched this with my friend we also 100% thought Shay was in love with Tali LOL 😂 I've never read the book so I like that you keep giving tidbits about what's different or not. Ty!!
side note - the lamps in your room are so nice ✨
44:50 It's the "not like other girls" trope that brings all the boys to the yard
omg mazel tov on your engagement!!! so happy for you
Also wanted to drop here that like… the plot of uglies is almost ENTIRELY the plot of the Twilight Zone’s “Number 12 Looks Just Like You.” The author even admitted that he’d seen it when he was younger,, like even the original BOOK is another concept done arguably (arguably, because know the twilight zone is really direct and doesn’t have a lot of nuance) worse. 😋😁
It also reminded me of Eye of the Beholder also from Twilight Zone, which gets the idea that beauty doesnt have to what we think as beautiful but instead more monstrous in our opinions
NOT THE BONZIBUDDY IN THE SPONSORSHIP AD😭😭
Everytime I see you, first thing I look at is your hair like it amazes me- every video you have diff colored hair or a diff haircut 😭🙏
ALSO CONGRATS ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT OMG??? 😭😭🙏
Congratulations on being engaged! You have come so far, and I wish you the happiest marriage and life. You deserve it ❤
YESSS NIKKI POSTED
the brazilian portuguese comment omg i cried😭😭 aquele filtro do tiktok -> that tiktok filter
omg congrats on getting engaged!!!!! 💍🎉
Your ad about Pie is the first ever youtube ad in my LIFE I haven't skipped. You make anything entertaining I was was literally chuckling to your ad LOL
i'm guessing they were trying to build off of the hype that The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes got (teen dystopian book from 2020 which is a prequel to the hunger games trilogy) but they managed to fail miserably, which isn't out of character for netflix to do!
The editing on this video is too good LOL 😭
“Emily in Paris does incest” sent me 😂
Nikki babe I am WAITING keeling over for this Jeffree prt 3 vid pls
12:06 so basically that UglyDolls kids movie but mature
Not mature in a meaningful way, mature like Family Guy style “adult” animation (sorry this analogy might not make sense)
I'm so glad to have found this channel through Twitter. The zionist dunks were just my way of knowing morally that this channel is sound and the content especially from a video like this? I'm here for it! It's funny how many channels you go through with similar content to this in that it's detailing a film and it's writing but dunking on when it falls apart and falls short but this channel feels like it had more to say than those and I'm always loving longer vids!
THE QUEEN HAS POSTED🙏🙏
54:55 😭BYE
YES I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF YOU’D COVER THIS ONE!!!
omg congrats on the engagement!!! thats so exciting im wishing you both the best with all the planning🫶🏼🎉
2:21 the french music is SENDING ME
that's portuguese! it's saying "that one tiktok filter"
I had to stop the video when you mentioned Rascal Flatts and laugh before I put on Life is a Highway. I'm back now.
Her pop culture inserts are on par with Luxeria for me, and I bloody love Luxeria.
Insane that Westerfeld’s Uglies got a film adaption when his incredible Leviathan Trilogy is RIGHT THERE
Leviathan is getting an anime
There is an animated adaptation of the Leviathan trilogy coming out in 2025: it's being produced by Netflix.
OMG nikki seeing you come so far is sooo healing congrats on your engagement 🎊 🎉
Hiii, greetings from Brazil! Very nice video!! I just wanted to say that comment "aquele filtro do tiktok" means "that tiktok filter" in portuguese!