good video, Im doing this to my 2019 Abarth in a couple weeks. The covers are going to get wrapped factory color instead of paint- cheaper and easier. Most conversions I see have LED's with resistors put in the pig tail harness, your method looks easier. If anyone is looking for these parts with a plug and play harness Speedmotive sells the entire kit for $519. otherwise you can purchase everything off ebay for around $300 or so and do it yourself.
I think I got an explanation for the electric - connection issues some of you guys are facing. In Europe and UK, the tail lights (old design)until 2015 have the following: Reverse light on the LEFT. Fog (red) light on the RIGHT. In the US of A both old design tail lights have a reverse light... So, if one day I decide to do the conversion to the 2016 new design - in the UK - I will post a video.
Hey good job. Hello from GB 🇬🇧👍🏻. Since I’ve watched your video I’ve ordered these lights for my fiat 500, because I didn’t know you could get standard bulb versions. LED’s are a nightmare and lots of resisters involved. Plus reflectors and reverse I’ll sort out to 👍🏻. Cheers for clear info. I’ll keep watching
@@theevolvingworld Rats! I wanted a 2" receiver for my luggage carrier/bike rack and thats what I thought you had. I know I can use 2" to 1.25" adapter, but thats not ideal. Enjoying your mods-keep them coming !
That turned out great 👍 I have still been trying to to a third brake light in my 1 1/4” hitch but no one makes one that size. I’m tempted to make my own 🤔
Thanks. They are NOT designed to fit U.S. cars. Either way, the reverse light is still separate in the bumper for E.U. cars & would require that modified in some way or for the matching rear bumper to be fitted with lights & reflectors.
what would happen if you would connect the reverse light to only one side (for example the right side), so that the left side wouldnt show the reverse light when put in reverse. can you just let the cables on the left side unconnected or would this be a problem?
Hm it aounds like you need the original facelift rear light. Should be the normal eu-version light. The plugs he mean should be this or? www.amazon.de/Qiorange-Steckverbinder-Wasserdichter-Schnellverbinder-Superseal-4-Pin-4Pcs/dp/B07JZJHVX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=4+pin+stecker+auto&qid=1595964798&quartzVehicle=812-409&replacementKeywords=pin+stecker+auto&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRjVSODNBME5aTDBPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDc0NDIzQk01TTJUT0w5SUZJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNDI3MzcyT05ISzZQM0JXOFdSJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= That is what I find on amazon. These are universal plugs. Do you need something else to know? (But all my knowledge are from the normal petrol version 2007 rebuild to the facelift model. Can be not correct what I say for the electro Fiat)
Yes, since the reverse is added at the turn signal lenses location, it was the easiest to wire using the splice connectors to the harness. All the others were soldered from harness wire directly to the steel bars that hold the bulbs in.
Hello, I soldering all like in the video...but now I have two problems...hope that I can get help :) the left taillight, the bulb is not shining like the right, its a weak light...and I buy for the backup/reverse the same inserts like in the video, with LED-CANBUS Bulbs...so both backup-Lights not working! Nothing happen...Soldering the black cable (left Taillight, Pin 1 ) on the Turn-Rail and use splice for the install on the black-cable from the LED-Bulbs for backup. The red cable from plug goes direct with a splice to the red cable from the LED...so what is the problem? Please any help! :(
Thanks pepper for taking on the project. Many will not even try. I will point out a couple of things: first, the video is showing the left side, the right side wiring colors are different. Second, "canbus" LED bulbs aren't necessarily going to work on this car. To fix: I would unplug the new right side assembly completely & plug in the old right side assembly, see if that fixes the left. If so, then the right wiring needs to be re-wired correctly. If the backup lights still don't work, then try using the factory incandescent bulbs first. They should work, indicating the wiring is good. Reinstall each LED backup bulb just on the left side first, it should work, if not then pull out turn 1/2 turn and re-install for correct polarity. Once the left side is completely working then proceed to get the new right side assembly to match. If the backup lights stop working with the new LED bulb installed on the right side, then it's the bulbs. You will need to go back to incandescent bulbs, add high wattage LED bulbs, or add more LED bulbs (notice in the video, there is a 3rd single center backup light wired on the same circuit). Hope this helps & Don't give up!
@@theevolvingworld Hello...can you please give me your email-adress to contact you there? I have a few questions and want to send you a few pics of my wiring....had no idea whats wrong with... :(
Very nice, looks great and the reverse set up is brighter. Any plans on back up camera or a stereo swap? I seen someone had a dual din swap that moved the a/c vents to the side(still functional direction). Love my 500e, the lease return buy is a no brainer.
They do/did. You're a few years late to the party to get one though. there is a European company that makes converted lamps ready to go, but it makes the upgrade so costly that it's literally not worth it at that point. It's not that hard to make an adapter cable. The 500 owners forum has a post listing all of the proper connectors, pins, and pin-outs for the existing, as well as the series 4 light. For $30 in parts you can make the conversion. You don't need a resistor on the original lights (not sure who started the rumor that the Euro lights are already LEDs... that's just BS, they use the same bulbs as the old lamps)
Looks great, better than better, only thing is that in some states or provinces the turn signals in the back have to be a certain color, yellow not white for example... Sorry now that i have a second look, (video distorts color) the signals are colored, Also are you planning to put led bulbs in, I would think they would conserve a bit more energy.
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Yes, we like & use amber for all turn signals. No, no plans to do LED on this CANbus equipped car, other than what has already been done.
Wait so what happens if you go in reverse while having a turn signal on? Will anything break or will it just not work? I'm thinking of worse case scenarios here.
I don't know what crazy person would use the turn signals while reversing. But, FYI they would simply both come on & blend together. Kind of a amber flashing white light.
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Thought that was answered in earlier comments. N.T.L. it's Amazon (euro lenses w/ bulbs),wiring connectors Amazon, Inserts Speedmotive, Rear center fog/reverse eBay, & generic LED T10's eBay.
How ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you get the solder to stick to the metal on the tail light? I've been trying for about an hour now and no matter how much flux I use I cant get the solder to stick to it. I'm using a new 100 watt soldering gun and everything just balls up on the metal and drops off- nothing sticks!
Yeah, it was a bitch. It's not soldering copper to copper, that's for sure. As I recall, you really have to make sure the solder tip is closest to the point & as much contact area as possible. Since it's steel, it's not the best heat conducter, so you have to hold it longer than normal. Don't give up, it does work.
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Yes, I think it would be easier, just to get the parts. Would still have to modify to get the reverse & reflectors. FIAT's in the US were available 2012 - 2019.
I have some suggestions to add: -Buy an original connector, and just move the pins over, no cutting of drilling needed. -Buy the plates pre-painted, or get a pro to do it. The finish will be better, it doesn’t cost that much more, plus you spare your time and health. -The lights doesn’t need to be original, I can find them for under 130$ Thank you for making the video, and sharing how you did. I just wanted to share some improvements on how😊
Completely left out how the euro tail lights require a resistor in line for the parking light to work. Not even sure how you got these to work because you didn't explain any of that.
I’ve been wanting to do this so badly.
That looks so damn good with that extra taillight you added
Well, what's stopping you? Do it! 😀
The Evolving World I could never find those inserts 😡. Where did you go to find them, and thanks for all the videos.
@@patrickmike2524 Yes, that is the hardest part even with part #'s. Try Speedmotive.
looks great, and the look of that little light you added on the lower bumper ties it together nicely
You are fenomenal ! I've been watching all your videos : Modified - episode etc., etc., and they never cease to amaze me. Congrats and *mon chapeau !
Thanks! Glad you like them.
good video, Im doing this to my 2019 Abarth in a couple weeks. The covers are going to get wrapped factory color instead of paint- cheaper and easier. Most conversions I see have LED's with resistors put in the pig tail harness, your method looks easier. If anyone is looking for these parts with a plug and play harness Speedmotive sells the entire kit for $519. otherwise you can purchase everything off ebay for around $300 or so and do it yourself.
The Evolving World, Can you show a photo of the wire connection you did? I need to see the red and black wire connection! I am trying to do that.
That's look sick dude !
I think I got an explanation for the electric - connection issues some of you guys are facing. In Europe and UK, the tail lights (old design)until 2015 have the following: Reverse light on the LEFT. Fog (red) light on the RIGHT. In the US of A both old design tail lights have a reverse light... So, if one day I decide to do the conversion to the 2016 new design - in the UK - I will post a video.
You are a genius I have these lights with a huge wire harness! Thank you for that method
kupiłeś, zrobiłeś takie światła tylne do 500e?
Probably one of the best jobs I've seen
Hi, could you give me some links as to where you bought the wires from?
Hey good job. Hello from GB 🇬🇧👍🏻. Since I’ve watched your video I’ve ordered these lights for my fiat 500, because I didn’t know you could get standard bulb versions. LED’s are a nightmare and lots of resisters involved. Plus reflectors and reverse I’ll sort out to 👍🏻. Cheers for clear info. I’ll keep watching
Very nice. But dude...you didn't wet sand the inserts to make them reflective like the paint?
Searched but couldnt find Hitch install video. I like that your hitch goes thru the rear finish panel instead of hangin below it
That's because there's no hitch! Check out the rear fog light video. 🙂
@@theevolvingworld Rats! I wanted a 2" receiver for my luggage carrier/bike rack and thats what I thought you had. I know I can use 2" to 1.25" adapter, but thats not ideal. Enjoying your mods-keep them coming !
Great job sir , at 8:23 what did you solder down there ? It’s only thing I’m missing …. I know it’s been a while 🙏
The three wires that connect to the new harness (which connects directly to your car). One wire goes directly to the reverse.
Which bulbs did you use for reverse light
I need help with these lights , I bought the euro lights and the wiring plug and play witch was 236$ and didn’t came with instructions
Hi, great work. 👍I did the same, but up to now I did not find an appropriate reflector. Did you?
Nope, never did.
Great video! thank you. Can you provide the part number for Magneti Marelli tail lights?
Where did you get the center trim? I've been able to find all other parts except for that.
That turned out great 👍 I have still been trying to to a third brake light in my 1 1/4” hitch but no one makes one that size. I’m tempted to make my own 🤔
Maker's rule. Make them.
helpful vid .. dear would you share diagram for this connection please . and did you use resistors ?
@hack bo did you receive the diagram? Would you share it with me please?
@@elisapiredda6708 Do you have the diagram? I'm trying to do the connections.
Did you, can you provide links to all the stuff you bought, so I can do the same?
I don't see any links????
Ik want to know where to buy the square Middle reverse light
Great video! Do the lamps have to be dedicated for the US model or will the EU fit just fine? Thanks!
Thanks. They are NOT designed to fit U.S. cars. Either way, the reverse light is still separate in the bumper for E.U. cars & would require that modified in some way or for the matching rear bumper to be fitted with lights & reflectors.
The Evolving World I could not figure out from the movie - what is the bulb socket you used for the reverse light?
@@michamicek854 Generic T10, W5W, etc. bulb socket. Bought a 10 pack on eBay.
what would happen if you would connect the reverse light to only one side (for example the right side), so that the left side wouldnt show the reverse light when put in reverse. can you just let the cables on the left side unconnected or would this be a problem?
Anyone has the amazon/ebay links to buy that plug and rear light? Thanks!
Wilson da silva did you find out ? Looking for them right now
@@icecube2T8 any update?
Hm it aounds like you need the original facelift rear light. Should be the normal eu-version light. The plugs he mean should be this or? www.amazon.de/Qiorange-Steckverbinder-Wasserdichter-Schnellverbinder-Superseal-4-Pin-4Pcs/dp/B07JZJHVX4/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=4+pin+stecker+auto&qid=1595964798&quartzVehicle=812-409&replacementKeywords=pin+stecker+auto&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRjVSODNBME5aTDBPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDc0NDIzQk01TTJUT0w5SUZJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyNDI3MzcyT05ISzZQM0JXOFdSJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
That is what I find on amazon. These are universal plugs. Do you need something else to know?
(But all my knowledge are from the normal petrol version 2007 rebuild to the facelift model. Can be not correct what I say for the electro Fiat)
What model does the reverse light plug is?
For the reverse light you said you used a splice. Did you connected the led reverse light wires straight to the new harnest that you installed ?
Yes, since the reverse is added at the turn signal lenses location, it was the easiest to wire using the splice connectors to the harness. All the others were soldered from harness wire directly to the steel bars that hold the bulbs in.
Hello, I soldering all like in the video...but now I have two problems...hope that I can get help :) the left taillight, the bulb is not shining like the right, its a weak light...and I buy for the backup/reverse the same inserts like in the video, with LED-CANBUS Bulbs...so both backup-Lights not working! Nothing happen...Soldering the black cable (left Taillight, Pin 1 ) on the Turn-Rail and use splice for the install on the black-cable from the LED-Bulbs for backup. The red cable from plug goes direct with a splice to the red cable from the LED...so what is the problem? Please any help! :(
Thanks pepper for taking on the project. Many will not even try. I will point out a couple of things: first, the video is showing the left side, the right side wiring colors are different. Second, "canbus" LED bulbs aren't necessarily going to work on this car.
To fix: I would unplug the new right side assembly completely & plug in the old right side assembly, see if that fixes the left. If so, then the right wiring needs to be re-wired correctly. If the backup lights still don't work, then try using the factory incandescent bulbs first. They should work, indicating the wiring is good. Reinstall each LED backup bulb just on the left side first, it should work, if not then pull out turn 1/2 turn and re-install for correct polarity.
Once the left side is completely working then proceed to get the new right side assembly to match. If the backup lights stop working with the new LED bulb installed on the right side, then it's the bulbs. You will need to go back to incandescent bulbs, add high wattage LED bulbs, or add more LED bulbs (notice in the video, there is a 3rd single center backup light wired on the same circuit). Hope this helps & Don't give up!
@@theevolvingworld Hello...can you please give me your email-adress to contact you there? I have a few questions and want to send you a few pics of my wiring....had no idea whats wrong with... :(
Very nice, looks great and the reverse set up is brighter. Any plans on back up camera or a stereo swap? I seen someone had a dual din swap that moved the a/c vents to the side(still functional direction). Love my 500e, the lease return buy is a no brainer.
Thanks. Backup Camera is planned. I have no issues with the factory stereo.
I wish someone would make with the conversion made ready for plug & play.
They do/did. You're a few years late to the party to get one though. there is a European company that makes converted lamps ready to go, but it makes the upgrade so costly that it's literally not worth it at that point.
It's not that hard to make an adapter cable. The 500 owners forum has a post listing all of the proper connectors, pins, and pin-outs for the existing, as well as the series 4 light. For $30 in parts you can make the conversion. You don't need a resistor on the original lights (not sure who started the rumor that the Euro lights are already LEDs... that's just BS, they use the same bulbs as the old lamps)
Any news about Euro FM with even frequencies?
Looks great, better than better, only thing is that in some states or provinces the turn signals in the back have to be a certain color, yellow not white for example... Sorry now that i have a second look, (video distorts color) the signals are colored, Also are you planning to put led bulbs in, I would think they would conserve a bit more energy.
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Yes, we like & use amber for all turn signals. No, no plans to do LED on this CANbus equipped car, other than what has already been done.
Wait so what happens if you go in reverse while having a turn signal on? Will anything break or will it just not work? I'm thinking of worse case scenarios here.
I don't know what crazy person would use the turn signals while reversing. But, FYI they would simply both come on & blend together. Kind of a amber flashing white light.
Planning on doing this upgrade soon Where do you recommend buying the new style tail lights from? Thanks !
Amazon works good as a portal to the OEM. eBay might be a good place to cross shop, especially the U.K. version (of eBay).
The Evolving World thanks again!
Puis je avoir le lien amazon pour le fiche de connection et aussi pour le feux sur le pare-chocs
Hi
Please can you send me the links to buying it from amazon or ebay.
Thank you very much
You never mention where the parts were ordered from just what you paid. Can you help with that? Where is the reverse light from please?
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Thought that was answered in earlier comments. N.T.L. it's Amazon (euro lenses w/ bulbs),wiring connectors Amazon, Inserts Speedmotive, Rear center fog/reverse eBay, & generic LED T10's eBay.
Where and what type of harness? Thanks!
Can anybody send me the link to buy the cables. It will be very kindly.
Wet sand after clear coat with 2500 and 3000 or 5000 grit then polish
Well done 🥇
Thanks.🙂
How ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH did you get the solder to stick to the metal on the tail light? I've been trying for about an hour now and no matter how much flux I use I cant get the solder to stick to it. I'm using a new 100 watt soldering gun and everything just balls up on the metal and drops off- nothing sticks!
Yeah, it was a bitch. It's not soldering copper to copper, that's for sure. As I recall, you really have to make sure the solder tip is closest to the point & as much contact area as possible. Since it's steel, it's not the best heat conducter, so you have to hold it longer than normal. Don't give up, it does work.
Will this work on a 2008 euro model? why 2012 and up?
We're back from 28 days in Hawaii. Yes, I think it would be easier, just to get the parts. Would still have to modify to get the reverse & reflectors. FIAT's in the US were available 2012 - 2019.
I have some suggestions to add:
-Buy an original connector, and just move the pins over, no cutting of drilling needed.
-Buy the plates pre-painted, or get a pro to do it. The finish will be better, it doesn’t cost that much more, plus you spare your time and health.
-The lights doesn’t need to be original, I can find them for under 130$
Thank you for making the video, and sharing how you did. I just wanted to share some improvements on how😊
Total cost?
Hey I am in Oregon, can I bring my Abarth to you with the parts and you install it for me? trust me I'll pay for your time! let me know :) !! Thanks !
It’s a female connector
Completely left out how the euro tail lights require a resistor in line for the parking light to work. Not even sure how you got these to work because you didn't explain any of that.