Towing & Hauling with the 2024 Toyota Tundra Nightshade Edition + Details on the BIG Tundra Recall
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video we take the 2024 Toyota Tundra and put it to work with a trailer and a bed full of payload. Is this the best half-ton on the market? Let us know your thoughts below.
Link to Toyota Defect Information Report: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024...
Chapters:
Engine specs - 00:32
Recall Information - 00:50
Nightshade package details - 3:10
Look underneath - 4:27
Overloading the truck with payload - 8:45
Measuring squat with payload - 11:26
Towing 7K lbs - 13:35
0-60 while towing leaderboard - 14:43
Final thoughts - 19:57
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Knock Knock ... who's there? 😂
Engine failure!
Hemi tick, GM AFM tap, Ford cam phaser rattle. No one is immune from these types of jokes.
Not the VK56DD
@@bobbbobb4663 the VK is generally considered reliable, though also had a TSB for ticking or knocking that could result in engine replacement (NHTSA #NTB19-057a).
@@ALMX5DPTrue, but the main if not the only reason to buy a Toyota is reliability but the sad part is that Tundra is probably the least reliable truck in 2024
Drive it until she blows. My grocery getter made it to 28,000 before she blew. The hybrid would be included but they claim the electric motor will keep you moving so they’re not included in the recall. Debris in the blocks is a bunch of BS. Three model years have been affected so far and they’re still claiming dirty blocks, no way. The Lexus SUV is also affected and their blocks are made in Japan. More lies to cover up an engineering flaw. Shame on them for putting out an inferior product and costing their customers thousands in depreciation and buyback loses. Their customer service also sucks.
Automotive press said the engine components are produced in Japan then assembled by Toyota in North America and Lexus in Japan. So it would give credibility to Toyotas theory of machining debris.
@@richardoaks3597 Automotive Press is in Toyota‘s pocket. The Tundra engines come out of the Toyota engine plant in Huntsville Alabama. The plant is hiring 350 new employee to build enough short blocks for the recall.
It is Bs because the dealers will not even take a 2024 on trade because they know there is still an issue with these engines. Debris would have been taken care of by last year
There are 2 tow modes for a reason. One is for towing. The other is for getting towed after the engine fails. Sorry, couldn’t resist! 😂
Bahahahhahahahah I gatta tell trdjon that one… he’s such a school girl when it comes to Toyota
😂
I feel for the new tundra owners. Hopefully, the engine problem can be resolved properly.
Personally, I owned a 22 Tundra and now a 23 F-150 Powerboost and I prefer the ride in the Ford better. The Tundra was fine but too jittery for me. I prefer the floaty leaf springs. Just my preference. I also get an overage 5 MPG better. It isn't even close.
Great vid! Thanks for posting!
With the prices of these trucks consumers need to be 😡 🤬 there is no room for catastrophic failures like this
12:51 Pops gave me a good laugh. Kudos to your dad.🤣
Excellent review as always!!! 😁
It saddens me that I was actually surprised to hear this was under 60k
I been following you since the TF days. This colab with dad is fantastic. I love my dad but I don’t have this type of relationship with him. Very cool pops
Even though I have no interest in buying a full size pickup. I must watch your videos. Your testing and reviews are top notch!
I appreciate that!
Maybe theyll try and boost their corolla engine next for Turdra.
I doubt it was debris, it affected Toyotas made in Japan and USA … it’s more likely a design issue and will only be remedied by a redesign, as replaced engines have also failed
From what I read the Huntsville Alabama plant makes the vast majority of all V35a engines, even for vehicles built in Japan for the North American market.
@@ALMX5DP even the replaced engines are failing
@@Wellh0wrya do you have a source for that? This recall hasn’t implemented a fix yet that I know of, so engines replaced already may be using stock that was part of that affected run or process. That and it’s certainly possible repair or replacement at dealerships introduces other issues due to the type of labor and process which is different from assembly plans. Is the engine different from the LS or overseas Land Cruiser 300 which do not have any respective recalls or known issues of the same type?
@@ALMX5DPthere was a Toyota TH-camr that said he has already had 2 engines rebuilds on his Tundra. However, Toyota is being cheap and not sending a clean engine they are making dealers repair them and use the same block.
@@Lq32332 ouch, yeah even if the original issue is corrected there is the definite chance that techs are just slapping together a very precise assembly which can lead to their own set of problems.
Those turbo v6s are screaming!
And the mains are knocking
@@Whiskeybendebut won’t be like the lifter nightmare at gm. And Toyota will actually fix it.
@@freedomisntfree_44 oh boy they fix their failures how refreshing
@@kidamere2408 the 5.7 had a few quirks when new as well. Now known to be a million mile engine.
@@freedomisntfree_44 yeah did it blow up a few quirks lol
I’m glad you guys started going over the payload a little bit because most owners do and will from time to time
That’s why I kept my reliable 5.7 v8 and nothing sounds more beautiful then a v8 🔥💪🏻
I bought a gmc after being a Toyota fanboy for years im also a 4R owner
They can figure out fancy tailgates and all that other stuff but they can’t figure out tow hooks???
Toyota excluded the hybrid I force Max engine and also the 2024 model year in it's recall, but if you go on tundra forums, there's an ongoing thread with examples of customers with the hybrid and/or 2024 trucks having the same issue as called out in the recall.
Only reason hybrid isn't included is because this is a safety recall. The hybrid motor can pull you off the road if engine grenades. It's the same engine. Expect a hybrid recall to come later.
@@TheJoncic yes that's right, I forgot about it being a "safety recall."
Any other Toyota fans relieved that the engine, transmission, both turbos, and driver side seat trim all made it through the test without a catastrophic failure?
Even though I have no interest in a full size pickup I had to watch this video because Truck King testing is the most thorough.
To regain consumer confidence Toyota needs to give these owners a significant warranty like 200k miles or something along those lines.
I agree, or lifetime warranty of the engine!!!!
They’ll cover it up with some clever marketing and the fanboys will fall for it like they always do. Worked for the unintended Prius acceleration, camshaft failures on Lexus IS models, 3 decades of frames rusting, and the list goes on and on. Fanboys drink up that kool-aid 😂
Just bought a '24 Tundra Platinum Crew Cab with iForce Max and TRD Off-Road package. The engine is next level compared to the 5.7L in my '21 Tundra Crew Cab Limited truck. Not towing it performs like a sports car. Under load - the most I've had towed so far is about 6000 lb. You know their is something back there while the engine has yet to show any strain or trouble .... at all! Looking forward to heavier loads on some hills to see how it performs.
Until it blows up. Tick tick tick. LoL
@@baoly9550 Don't be an A-hole. If you can show me a truck that doesn't have problems, then let me know. Pretty sure your return will be lacking in a perfect truck.
Can you put a link to the tow hitch. I’ve been looking and can’t find one.
Recall edition
Awesome
Well Texas and Mexico are right next to each other in geography too lol
nice
Isn't this basically the same issue that Hyundai/Kia had with the Theta II engines? I remember it having something to do with debris from the machining process.
Ya I just bought one 1 week ago hope it all got worked out
My 1794 has the zoom in on the hitch.
Ayo that thing still runs?
Hope it doesn’t spin a crank bearing!!! 😂😂😂
GMC/Chevy 6.2 diesel from 2019-2025 has the same issue. Sure different causes, but same issue.
You and your dad are better than tfl, just need more content
Looking good and Breaking Bad 😏
Debris I could buy for a short range of one production run. Three full model years, that's a serious design defect in materials and stresses. Particular to this engine being a global platform, reusing the parts bin for cars and slapping them relatively untested into an uprated truck engine has never worked. The bottom end is downright fragile as designed; the debris excuse was the first, least damaging (pun?) PR verbiage that will satisfy a basic look on the recall. Without redesigning the bearings, crank girdle and upgrading, this engine will continue to fail even after being rebuilt when it's put under stress. That's also assuming people realise that a turbocharged engine needs more maintenance than the standard 5,000 mile interval for oil changes. The 10k mile interval is the most atrocious label ever conceived by the industry to making a dependable $50k+ vehicle ever have a hope at lasting past the warranty.
This is just the latest issue for this truck; let's not forget the wastegates, transmission, body gaps, premature fitment causing rust, window seals... Toyota dropped the ball off a cliff on this truck, which hurts to say as an OG Tundra owner. It was rushed to market to satisfy the feds, plain and simple.
I got the same truck in lunar rock! Love it.
At least the Toyota rust is still reliable to show up
Funny, because GMC is being slammed for rust failure.
@@JIPlatiumToyota has over 3 decades of frames rusting on every single body on frame model they’ve ever made, with multiple class action lawsuits to boot. Only Toyota has that consistency 😂
@@mvcharisma2968 smarty, just Google search a bit and guess what, Ford and GMC/Chevy have that problem too. Now I'm sure you are super smart... So maybe, just maybe, it's part of an environmental issue too. Living next to the sea or winter roads with salt. Have to keep it clean. GMC went wax coating, but hot places the wax falls off. Pretty sure that method isn't a winner. In the end, owners have to take care of their purchase, no matter the manufacturer.
@@JIPlatium but this video is about Toyota. Deflecting doesn't change the truth of the statement. GM woes can be talked about on a GM video
@@healthyamerican not deflecting, just stating everyone has that issue.
Tundra is also the only truck with standard adjustable headlights for towing. Really dumb that it hasn’t become standard on any domestic trucks.
Great review guys. I'll go for the Tundra all day long 💪🏻😎
just buy few extra engines as well. LOL
@@marcelo403polo2 Sure why not. When you have money you don't care 😎✌🏻
@@marcelo403polo2 don't be a douche. I would love for you to tell me your truck, pretty sure there are issues with it too.
The engineers give us the margin. The insurance companies won't
Tundra’s reputation is shot.
I’ll stick with my 5.7 and crappy mpg number.
The maverick has coils and more payload
I am a huge Toyota fan but Icouldn't buy the New 3rd to replace my 2gen Tundra. So happy I didn't now with the engine issue's. Tundra is coming with Hyundai/Kia engine. BOOM and replace.
It’s all good until the little turbo V6 goes Kaboom 💥! Lol 😂 Hard Pass !
8:06 I could be mistaken for the latest model year but I believe Tundra caps out at 400w bed inverter even on the hybrid. Yet another lesson that was applied to Tacoma after the fact to give that hybrid a better 2400w supply.
You're correct. I was mistaken for the Tacoma. But you're definitely right, Toyota clearly heard the feedback and corrected it for the Tacoma.
I edited the video to remove that bit.
I'm a contractor and I lease trucks. I've had 4 gen2 Tundras, including a 21 DC Ltd. I had a tough decision to make, finally deciding upon a 24 Tundra CM, Sport premium ( I ~might~ be outta the woods on the crank bearing issues). Having looked at everything including midsize, and getting a great deal on this Tundra, I said F' it. I've learned to trust Toyota, and not to trust the big3. This is still brand new, but I'm shocked at the high quality. I know I could end up eating my words, but I suspect not. When the smoke clears on this whole debacle, Tundra resale values will return to the top. Most haters would never buy one of these even if they were perfect.
Also, I know it's wrong to reference other YT channels, but the one who knows the most about this whole issue (he's kind of a car care nut), just purchased a new Tundra for himself!
Toyota “KaBOOM 💥” Edition
GMC/Chevy builds one, the 6.2 diesel.
I love my Tundra. I've towed for a few months and tows way better than my Sierra
Good luck hopefully it doesn’t grenade on you… $30k out of warranty repair
Ticking time bomb. Hahaha
With there engine recall I’d steer clear of
This new truck is an unmitigated disaster. Ironically, tow hooks would have been prudent. They only had 15 years to R&D this beast. I’m gonna die in my 2014 5.7L Platinum.
I’ll see your truck in my shop 😂
Where is Mike Swears? LoL
The truck fell short in so many areas, piped in v8 noise, panel gaps, turning radius, MPGs not as advertised, CHEESEY camo everywhere….. now the engines are blowing up that cost $30k out of warranty… are people really that dumb?
Lets use a 6 with turbos it'll be great 😂😂😂
3.4L Twin Turbo V6
3.445 to be specific.
I’d stick with the 5.7
🙏 *Thank you for not talking about the engine-failures per our agreement* 💰
Camera tow hitch zoom: th-cam.com/video/B58rUgkUCBg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_XbOH2VxA_AD_fPN 😊
Looks to me like you need the 360 view camera system in order to do this. I believe if you just have the rear view camera you unfortunately can’t do this.
bad engines with no tow hooks on the front. i guess they wont have to fix the recalls if you cant get it towed. smart move
I heard the new tundra engines are trash and destroying themselves
They definitely are
@@carltaylor5604 like it hate it its not trash .
@@carholic-sz3qvu must own one of these pieces
Just recalled over 100,000 now if thats not trash it must be garbage@carholic-sz3qv
That’s from the click bait TH-camrs.
Does this guy know the truck cannot even be traded in right now.
1500 pounds is 3/4 tons. What is the definition of a “1/2 ton?” (1/2 ton = 1,000 pounds)
Be careful, it'll blow up on you 😅. Many dealers won't even take them as trades its so bad
Is it 3.4 or 3.5?
3.445 litre...
So, depending on significant figures, 3.45 or 3.4.
For the record, painted steel or aluminum beds are also extremely slippery, so it never made sense as to why it is mentioned. 🙄
all this and the engine hasnt blown up....yet
*3.4L
I know the exchange rate between the Canadian and US dollars is not 1:1, but the price in Canada is $12,508 higher than the US for that Tundra? Is everything priced higher in Canada? Seriously, if I lived there, I would be lobbying to apply for USA statehood to get more reasonable prices. Chuck Trudeau out the door.
I agree Trudeau must go. Unfortunately when we get our trucks up here we basically have to get them loaded. On $60,000 the exchange works out to almost $24,000. Also in the past our average annual salary was higher.
Again, a review when you know its overloaded, strange business model. In the US there are lawyers that would feast on your channel.
Tundra is the best!!
Yea!...when it comes to blowing engines 😢
5.7 only!👍🏿
So the hybrid is not recalled because Toyota says if the gas engine does fail the hybrid engine can drive you a little ways so it is not a safety issue. Give me a Break Toyota,
Everyone knows thats not the problem its the design off the engine
What makes you say that? The engine dates back to 2017 in the LS. That’s not to downplay the huge screwup that Toyota made with this assembly which went on for far too long but I really don’t think there is any concrete information that it’s a design issue.
As mentioned in my other comment, most of these engines are built in Alabama, even for the LX and GX which are made in Japan.
It's a lot of anecdotal evidence from Toyota techs who don't think Toyotas story aligns with the damage they are seeing in the engines, as it's almost always an issue with the forward crankshaft bearing. Specifically a heat rejection issue with the monocoque bearing cap assembly causing differential expansion between the block and bearing cap. If it was debris, one would expect at least some of the other crankshaft bearings to be effected, not one particular one. The V35A in the LS is the same engine family, but not 100% the same engine. The "truck" engines are tuned to make more power lower in the rev range, and have additional cooling to accommodate that and towing.
Timing of video is a little unfortunate
Heard about a guy who has one of these; let his son drive it. Son connects his phone to the infotainment and later on the guy gets notified that his son was not on the insurance policy for the truck and needs to be added. Guy ignores this as it was a one-time thing letting his kid borrow the truck and later on his insurance cancels his policy. This is paraphrasing from the story I heard and I may be missing some details but yeah, I will likely never own a newer car because of shit like this. Oh and failed rod bearings.
TL;DR - Toyota sells your data to insurance companies which may result in headaches for you down the line.
Sounds like a typical internet fairytale.
They are legally obligated to have the option to not sell your data in the infotainment but it's hidden and on by default. What's crazy is that the data is linked. How do they know that the vehicle is registered to you? That's crazy.
GM does the same thing
Yeah no lol. that is not a real thing. I have a 23 corolla and though it has crazy tech and almost drives itself and will stop your car and turn the hazards on if you fall ill it will not contact your insurance if someone else drives your car. Toyota would never allow that. They want you to put miles on so you can buy another as quickly as possible
The truck fell short in so many areas, piped in v8 noise, panel gaps, turning radius, MPGs not as advertised, CHEESEY camo everywhere….. now the engines are blowing up that cost $30k out of warranty… are people really that dumb?
nightshade vegetables? why is toyota coming up with goofy names like iforce max? or crown signia? how lame
I will never understand why Toyota is letting vehicles be built anywhere else other than Japan. ESPECIALLY the US. Look what we did to the big 3 automakers, American cars and trucks are straight trash.
I'm a huge Toyota and Lexus guy but you guys seem to simp for Toyota. Also the hybrids aren't covered because they can limp to a safe spot. Pathetic. I'll never sell our 2 Lexus V8s and 5.7L V8. Everyone knew this was a mistake moving from V8 but here we are.
Manufacturers are still making these blacked-out trims? They were played-out 6-7 years ago...
But chrome was played out 30 years ago.
Pos.
Un collègue a payer 70 000$ pour un tundra neuf, meme pas 30 000km de fait...moteur sauter !!! Dommage toyota étais fiable il y a quelques années 😢
A lot of half tons can't carry as much as my Ranger. Ranger is rated at 1560 lbs. Unacceptable!!
Crewmax cabins eat up all the payload numbers, single cab trucks is where the payloads numbers are
Junk
No one is buying those genades
It’s rather unfortunate Toyota Tundras are now just as shitty as F150s, Silverado’s, and Rams
Facts
It sucks but now everyone should just buy one of those nicer interior and looks plus more features and payload
@@agentcarder I'm going 3/4 without cylinder deactivation.
You’re out of your mind. Ford, Chev and Ram have always been head and shoulders better than the Tundra. Just accept the fact thag the Tundra is a POS.
I’m a Toyota fan boy but these new tundras are butt ugly
They are, don't buy
They really made a cheap truck for a excessive amount of money im not ok with how Toyota is doing there business these days you would be better off with a ford .
It's so ugly it might as well be calls Nightshade because it is invisible to the naked eyes.
No way in hell!!..would buy one of these POS...after seeing all the quality issues and engine/transmission failures...now people are having rear-ends and alternators going out! and the fake chrome plastic bumpers with no tow hooks and fake engine sounds pumping in to the cabin is ridiculous!!.. it's a 💩truck!
Hybrids because they're helping the engine produce power , toyota messed up big time . Making an engine that needs help from turbos and batteries 😂
Trash
New Tundras and Tacomas have cheap materials to go along with bad engines. Doesn’t seem like a good business strategy.
Trash truck.
Toyota is not quality no more. Unless you get a camry or a corolla.
I am now a previous Tundra owner, as I was forced to sell my 22 Tundra at a nearly $25K loss and walk away from the brand all together due to the following reasons:
1- Dealership confirmed turbo needs replacement. Turbos on back order no ETA available.
2- Turbo replacement requires an invasive and significant amount of work on the truck up to separating the cab from the chassis. Any person with half a brain knows that these trucks will never come together again like when they exit the factory.
3- There is no guarantee that the second turbo will not also require replacement in the future, that is an unacceptable risk hanging over my head.
4- This truck is also part of the cohort recalled for the engine debris left in the block issue, again another ticking time bomb in my $75K+ Tundra
Due to all these reasons and many other quality and fit and finish issues plaguing my Tundra, I felt I had no choice but to sell it back to the dealer at a loss.
This was my first experience with the vaulted Toyota brand, and will very likely be my last. I will never again touch a Toyota product, and I will be sure to anyone in my social circle looking to purchase a Toyota to beware.