Douglas Murray - Full interview with The Young IPA Podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2018
- Douglas Murray, Associate Editor of The Spectator and author of the new book The Strange Death of Europe, joins James and Pete on The Young IPA Podcast for a wide ranging discussion on identity politics, freedom of speech, the state of political discourse, Europe and why he's optimistic for the future.
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Douglas Murray is, and has always has been, a total bad-ass. I used to admire his early appearances on Question Time, where he consistently (metaphorically) brutalised his opponents. Even then, it was his fearless commitment to the truth that was novel and therefore exciting. I'm a man-of-the left, but my views on some issues, particularly Foreign Policy, have always been more centrists. Mr. Murray was often the only person on the panel prepared to mount the elephant in the room. Whatever your politics, we should all thank him for his tireless and fearless defence of freedom of speech and decency in public discourse.
I love that you specified his brutalisation was metaphorical. As if DM was going around question time beating the shit out of people.
I would probably pay good money to see Douglas Murray forearm smash Anjem Choudary - let's get ready to rumble...
Michael Roberts well said
You are in my view a real leftist: aware of the philosophical and moral bases of your views yet also aware of their limitations, which are completed by the right, just as much as the philosophical and moral bases of the right have their limitations which are completed by the left. Neither side is entirely correct; it is only through this awareness and appreciation of the strengths and limitations of each side that a real dialogue can even begin.
Sounds like I missed out on those Question Times, I've been observing this marxist cancer developing for 20yrs :( utter insanity
Murray is the closest thing I have to a hero. Love the guy.
Wish I couldve met him for a second after his talk in Auckland, oh well was awesome just to see him in person.
Go look up Jordan Peterson for clear concise commentary.
best gay fella on the planet
ChainsawVsGod same for me too !
People like Douglas and Jordan are essential in these absurd times.
alswords i hear ya mate, but don't they mean that we're living in great times? Yes, there's some bat-shit crazy ideologues out there, but there's always people willing to talk.
You are right, Sir.
However I think the general point stands that folks like Douglas Murray and Sam Harris are a rare breed -- not least as their paychecks are inscribed "Edge Lord" -- whereas the average person who works in some corporate behemoth with a conflict-avoidant HR department writing checks for a different sort of work, may risk a far greater detriment than a mere video being demonetized.
Free speech, legal in theory, runs up against the social Overton Window very quickly in practice.
John Linton Yes, I see your point. Nice to cyber-chat with you! 👍
alswords Essential? What good have Murray and Peterson ever done? What material benefit have they brought to ordinary peoples lives? Waffling away is useless even when it is entertaining. Do you think their bullshit is altruistic?
+John Armstrong
Petersens 'future authoring' programme cuts male drop out rates from tertiary education at rates of upto 40% for some demographics..
Just one example......
But you keep whining and gnashing your teeth.....
Lolz
Douglas murray the only one, the legend.
Thinkers and free spirits of the world cheer up - another brilliant interview with Douglas Murray!
What a delight it is to wake up to a fresh interview with Douglas. Thank you.
He is entirely right regarding the chilling effect that identity politics has had on free speech. I have taken down years worth of videos and deleted my social media accounts, simply to safeguard my employment. I should add, I have never made a spiteful or politically outrageous upload in my life, yet it is impossible to gage what subject will become verboten in the future and damn me retrospectively. Merely telling the truth has now become a heroic act.
Jim Carrey uploaded a picture of Trump crucifying Jesus. I replied to the tweet with "Carrey is becoming as retarded as the characters he used to play". I was banned from twitter for hateful conduct.
Free speech is a joke and only applies if you have the right politics.
I dislike that word myself, but I defend your right to use it. I am also positive that if you had used it in reference to Trump, that you would have been applauded rather than banned. Believe it or not, most of my friends who are still on the left (I bailed some time ago), honestly cannot see anything unethical in what is occurring online. They also have managed the impossible, turning the windmills they tilt at into actual monsters. The far right never had it so good.
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
- George Orwell
Thank you, I could not remember the quote.
@@krileayn that's absurd and pathetic!
I love Mr Murray - so many salient points.
Man I love this guy.
What an absolute pleasure to listen to Douglas talk logic, sense and truth. His book is brilliant. Tragic, but brilliant. Thank you James and Pete for arranging this interview. It should be broadcast on every single mainstream news channel. It never will but it should be.
: yes his book is brilliant
Hell, I’d listen to DM if he was talking about feeding guinea worms- his intellect and delivery are beyond description that I could posit. Absolutely - Phooking- brilliant.
I'm currently reading his book "The Strange Death of Europe". He's a brilliant thinker and I love what he has to say. Unfortunately Identity Politics is alive and prospering in Canada as well and our Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, continually recites his favourite mantra that "diversity is our strength". Anyone who dares to differ is considered a racist, bigot or xenophobe.
But Murray is the racist, sexist lgbt hating Bigot. He loves the values of the Taliban.
Excellent conversation throughout but Douglas’s demolition of Corbyn at the start was just masterly.
I loved the stopped clock analogy xD
Wisest man alive
Absolutely love this man. Logical, clever and brave.
Great laid back interview, glad to see some good interviews coming out while these legends are here.
Great interview, Douglas got to go deep into the issues. Well done guys!
Great podcast. I read The Strange Death of Europe. It was an insightful read. Left me a little depressed, but only because of the subject matter, the writing was fabulous.
Murray the genius
Such a brilliant mind, if only Hitchens was still with us! What an alliance that would be
Thank you for this interview. Douglas is a first-calibre individual.
I have always been a fan of your work Mr Murray. You are the epitome of free speech. Don’t ever dim down. 🙌🏾
Douglas the
GOAT!👍🧐🇨🇦🇨🇦
Marc Dunlop what does that mean ?
It's a well-known acronym meaning Greatest Of All Time. Googling GOAT acronym would have given you a buttload of hits...
Niccolo Machiavelli very sorry, I just didn’t know.
Douglas is such a gem in this world, a fantastic mind.
Douglas Murray is one of the bravest and most intelligent people on the scene today. He has an exceptional way of conveying the truth.
Great work, guys - many thanks!
Douglas brilliant as always. I wish they recorded the events being talked about at the start.
Douglas point about shamelessness.
He spot on there, it’s rampant these days.
Great interview. So disappointed Douglas was filtered out by New Zealand media when he visited. The only reviews (2) of the 'Polarised' event label him "hard right" or "alt right" and aren't worth reading.
Real Eyes Like Molyneux and Southern, I didn't know Douglas was coming. Unlike Molyneux ans Southern, he got a venue and present. Western governments and media are totalitarian and their projections are biased and juvenile to the point they look like utter idiots.
I am wondering if media will try to filter out jordan peterson too. He is speaking in auckland in February 2019. As he is alone and not debating they might de-platform him as they did Lauren Southern but that would only increase his popularity....
Your Prime Minister who walks around with her baby like one big feminist virtue signal is a bad sign
And now look at what’s happening there. Kiss your freedoms goodbye
He’s just fantastic. Was worried a little while go when he dropped off the radar a bit (apart from appearances on the news to give the only sage commentary after various terrorist attacks), but he was just taking time out to write his excellent book. Now he’s back, and better and more essential than ever.
He's brave enough to say plainly what politicians wouldn't dare mention. Douglas Murray is a genuine hero.
You could see the pain on his face when talking about what happened in Rotheram and other English Towns and city's , the rape and abuse of thousands of English ' white ' girls at the hands on mainly men of Pakistani origin , which was systematically ignored by their communities because those girls were white, was unspeakable , what happened was inexcusable ... unforgivable , and a warning to other societies on what these people collectively are capable of , I don't want Muslims living in my country now ... there is no coming back from that !
It's still going on and is still being covered up all over UK.........
Broken homes , single parent families , a lot of the girls in care , lots of reasons I guess .
They weren't just white girls. Plenty of Sikh and Hindu girls too. This is why the UK associations of Indians support Tommy and his work, and opposes the Islamisation of the UK. It's basically turning into the very sh*thole (post-partition Pakistan) they escaped from.
A late, very wise, Professor of German at Bangor University, once said that, "the problem with the Germans is that they are always ready to recognise a political threat from the 'right'; but rarely perceive one from the 'left'. Today, one should surely wonder whether his wisdom applies to the UK, too! Furthermore, the SARAH CHAMPION 'affair' simply demonstrates that the LABOUR party has moved south; and is now the 'socialite' party of the UK; more concerned with being a vote-whore to ISLAM, than protecting Working Class girls and women from Muslim predators. Douglas's point about political time-wasting, could also be applied to Palestine; where - in the 70 years during which Israel has created a sustainable Nation for the Jews - the surrounding Arabs have been sitting around, belly-aching, and buying weapons!
I’m from the U.K. but live in the States now. It was how the Islam predators of 1500 girls incident was mis handled that caused me to not open up a business in the U.K.
I would have employed roughly 400 people in good well paid jobs. In the end I just couldn’t do business in a place that would not only allow something like that to occur but basically sweep it under the rug once it was brought to public attention. To sacrifice the lives of 1500 girls on the altar of political correctness is shameful and evil in its own right. I’m deeply saddened by the fact that I will never return to the place of my birth. The church I was baptised in is now an islamic cultural center or some such thing.
It’s true you can never go home.
I could listen to this man all day....which is what I did today! Very intelligent man
Excellent interview. Thank you both for being the voice of sanity and reason in this increasingly crazy world.
Douglas Murray saying "moobskies" is my favorite thing
Douglas murray is a legend
Great and briljant Douglas Murrey! You are our arrow!
Bloody insightful as always. Great interview
What we need is that all our politicians say what they think, what a delight that would be. People like Mannie Shinwell, Ian Mikardo and others must be turning in their graves at the crap ones we have now. Some of the men/women in the street would do a better job.
Great interview.
Your podcast is fantastic, thanks!
Great interview, thanks
We need more people like the late Christopher Hitchens and Douglas.
i love Douglas Murray
What a time for Douglas to be in Aus
First time to your site , thanks . I liked the curtains and sofas as well as the content a big well done guys !
Excellent!
This man is a genius. Christopher Hitchins, minus the Marxism.
Hitchens 2.0
Hitch was a brilliant Jew. But Wasn’t he a liberal atheist pro immigration?
Sorry Heloise, th-cam.com/video/cdLnI2MQao0/w-d-xo.html
No. He's Douglas Murray.
I am The Queen Of England, and Cornell West is a Doctor. And YOU are his brother.
In the original UK TV series "The Avengers" the great actor Patrick McNee- I think it was- had a voice quality and eloquence remarkably similar to the very good Douglas Murray. Anyone else notice?
fuck, l love him.
wish there were 2 more hours of this.
Gentleman 🇬🇧
Is it possible to think the following - would the current leading politicians totally agree and speak the same language as Douglas if they were not trying to run the country "identity politics , lying, deceit ..." So the second question is....would our country (the country we live in" be better if they did!! I say it would be. Thanks mr Murray - another great insight how you think
BIG HELLO ON TH-cam, I MISSED YOU.. THAT TALK (DUBLIN) HOPE CAN FIND IT HERE. RECOMEND TUVIA TANNENBAUM BOOKS SO SO FUNNY AND INTELLIGENT ABOUT SELFHATED JEWS, IN ISRAEL AND ABROAD, ISLAMOPHILES, etc,etc. ONE OF HIS BEST INTERVIEWS IS ON JBS (SHALOM TV). VERY CALM, HE EXPLAINS HIS LONG LONG ROAD. FUNNY TOO. "CATCH THE JEW", " I SLEPT IN HITLER'S BED" ETC. TOO LAZY TO GO ON. ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND YOUR HOSTS.
Douglas Murray has a most exciting and unsullied mind that speaks to major contemporary issues.
+Tom Smith
Tom the Internet and dictionaries are your friends.....
My favorite gay man ! And this man are so genius as they come!
The Murray three blinks before "a great pleasure to meet you" I think says it all.
I’ve come across a generation of Germans in their 40s who still feel guilty over what Hitter and his generation did in the Second World War. Not any of them would accept my assertion that what happens then has nothing to do with them and they should throw off their guilt complex. Now what’s causing that?
I love it when Douglas says 'shut up bigot'
Murray with Sam Harris,, Majiid and Cornell West. Now those will be great to watch. Especially with West who I think has a good heart but interesting to see Douglass pick him apart.
Also great to see Murray being brought even more into the mainstream, especially in the US. IMO, since the death of Hitch he's the best there is, even above Harris, Peterson, Shapiro, Elder who are thinkers I admire but DM is all round the best.
I disagree that he is a sleeper. I'm not a "disciple" of his but I think that his presence angers people like Tariq Ramadan, Mehdi Hassan, the SPLC etc more than any of the others can.
Maajid is willing to debate with people like Douglas, with Sam go on Rogan and put his ideas out there and open himself to criticism. I definately would call him one of the uneducated people given credence by weak leaders. There are plenty of sjw's out there like that, who will only attack others but never debate them.
Maajid is not like that. I appreciate him for it even if I disagree often
@Dee Surry yes I watched that when Simon posted it but I don't agree. I even posted on his vid at the time. Majids willingness to have discussions with people the left shuns is important for me. Eg an hour with sargon who is being attacked as "alt right". This is the most important quality for me. If he really was what you say he is it would be far easier for him to dismiss these ppl and attack them like the sjws do. His feuds with the mouthpieces of the far left are also important. For these reasons I still like maajid and disagree with you, Simon and whoever else accuses him of being a sell out or whatever.
Due to the way the argument is set up, when he attacks extremism in Muslim schools and in the Muslim community, that does so much for ppl who oppose extremism in that community, than if we say it and immediately get banned. When he sues the splc and they have to apologise that is such a beautiful victoru over a disgusting totalitarian organization. I'm glad he exists.
@Dee Surry I know who aayan is. Dont get why you write that to me as if I had no clue who key thinkers in the debate are.
Douglas's can see maajid as a colleague and not a friend. Doesn't change anything for me. Doesn't make me see him as a spy.
One big reason why maajid may continue to claim to be a Muslim is that it really does give him the power to criticise Islam in the mainstream. Everyone knows that being a Muslim or any minority in the west gives you power.
Or maybe maajid really does still believe in Islam. I don't know. What I do know is that he criticises and fights a lot of the ppl who otherwise get a pass. And when he criticises them it gets broadcast and shown. Me, you, Douglas etc, bevause we aren't Muslims won't ever get that reach and so I'm glad he's there to do it.
@Dee Surry you too. Good to have a civil disagreement with someone on the Internet, without insults, for a change
A stopped clock is right twice every twenty four hours
Probably jet lag. Good old Douglas. Doing his best.
Not if it's a 24HR digital clock. ; )
amongHpigeons
Smart arse
People will grow out of this and people will become better after these chaos.
We can thank Peter Dutton for those few wise decisions he has been allowed to make.
If I wanted to cause the death of Europe, strange or otherwise, the IPA would be a great place to do it from.
I will listen to Douglas Murray narrate paint drying.
Bad End Happy He narrates his latest audiobook. If you haven’t, you should. I highly recommend it.
'people didn't want to listen' reminds me of the BBC and Saville.
And the now deceased BBC reporter who was sacked for investigating .....
Doesn't surprise me the BBC needs to die too Kensen Kensen
"something is changing... something is changing..."
Foggy asked some good questions, I do think Matt should have been there though, would have been interesting.
29:45 brilliant...
St. Douggo the Honorary Aussie 😊
B) I REMEMBER D.M. TALKING ABOUT THE "TROJAN HORSES" YEARS AGO. ON TH-cam. C) WOULD LOVE TO WATCH YOU TALK TO CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS OR AYAH HIRSI ALI. SAM HARRIS CAN BE BORING,NO SENSE OF HUMOUR. JORDAN PETERSON A VERY, VERY BRAVE MAN. BRILLIANT . BY BY.
Rogan can do hours, it's the weed man!
reminds me of someone...oh, I know - morrissey
The irony of talking about unelected institutions having an influence on society.
I'm straight but I'd go gay for Douglas Murray.
Gutted there's no Perth dates
I was expecting a nice cold IPA! I see no beer in this video. Highly disappointed.....jk. Douglas is awesome as always
We want politicians to speak the truth just like the Americana's do .
Why is it that the financial sources and driving forces are ignored in theses debates. That’s where the true enemy of the people exist.
What I see about Germany is not a genetic issue, but at least in the 19th and 20th centuries, and perhaps even now, their society suffers from being victims of their own powerful thought which of course can turn into ideology, and it has. I' m thinking of Romantic idealism that swept Germany as being a peaceful example. The point is that's it seems hard for them to find a middle way instead of falling pray of their own thinking.
Change the names, and the description of Corbyn pins Bernie Sanders to the corkboard.
I love Douglas Murray, but I think we can probably stop calling the strange death of Europe a new book it’s been out for a while now. I’d understand calling it HIS new book but not A new book.
Really - that is your comment?
Precision is apparently not for everyone.
Why would anyone feel guilty for doing any harm to arabs which they have not done to themselves the last 1,600 years?
Constantly?
Relentlessly?
Every Fn year?
It's not that it is harder to interact with people face to face, it is that it is unproductive. I can start lecturing some stranger on the bus because of an ignorant comment they made, but what will be the fruit of that? We don't know each other, they can potentially get hostile even physical. Nothing gets solved.
As it pertains to Europe, people are terrified of getting killed or being labeled a bigot of some variety. The Chilling effect has definitely taken place over there.
Sadly Douglas since this interview it's only got Worse , Gemma O Doherty , Alex Jones, Milo , Paul Joseph Watson, and many many others silenced for their opinions .
What was it that Assange did that Murray snickers and scoffs at about he is now in jail?
Young IPA is a beer is it not?
For me it was always isopropyl alcohol.
3.00
Can I correct the spelling, that should be Patrick Macnee and here is a link to him speaking, th-cam.com/video/RVRkzoZFZRY/w-d-xo.html
Stopped clock is right twice a day lol just saying
why we can't solved this problem
the reason...... it comes down to
POLITICS AND RELIGION
there is a supreme ignorance that effects
both politicians, and religion, in understanding
....so much professionalism....they...forgot something
integrity.....and self respect
think appopriately....what's relevant ......telling truth
it might help.
MEAN TO SAY......POLITICS AND RELIGION
IS THE PROBLEM.....THIS IS THEIR WEAPON TO DIVIDE PEOPLE
What i learn...in the past
the truth.....they create government to rule a majority
of the world people......nothing but harm.....abusive......taking advantage
what ever.....they want to pursue of their own interest.....they dont do
anything good to humanity....its all about control
nothing but evil....
........my own words
teron
Is Douglas Murray single?
Mona Arora He is gay. He has a boyfriend that he mentions every now and then.
@@saidsadly2400 really . Please please share the link where he mention about his boyfriend. Coz I just watched one interview he thanked his parents brother and friends. He didn't mention anyone else. Please do share link
Douglas getting more famous by the hour..........
Past historical sins can not be solved you just have to move on and try to be your best you .... how do you solve ur ex gf of 20 years ago cheated on you .. you can’t solve it it’s impossible
False dichotomy: radical individualism - collectivism and nothing in between!
Love Douglas Murray. IPA? Not so much.
wtf is he doing with his feet
What are you doing with your brain?
I like this guy. This is the 4th interview I've watched. But he is fatally flawed when he gets to the end: what do we do about this situation? He seems to think that we only need to forgive and respect. This is obviously not true. Because it is even more obviously that this strategy means you must accept the new idiocy in political correctness!!! So Murray says that we have to forgive that some bloke wore blackface 20 years ago. But what exactly is wrong with blackface? It is a dog whistle, which Murray denigrates. But he doesn't reject it. Not into getting forgiveness for moved goalposts.
There was nothing wrong with it then, there's nothing wrong with it now. We are not evolving with this stupidity. We are devolving and I'm not joining in. As Murray is.
Douglas, you're missing the point, old mate! You can't very well argue that - in a moral society - there should be negative repercussions for telling obvious lies, because the people you're debating with believe 'truth' and 'mortality' are themselves 'social constructs'.
As you've pointed out elsewhere, they're not merely critical of (what's left of) Western society and culture. They want to see the whole project torn town and something entirely different resurrected in its place...