To be fair; Maajid took liberty of butting in when he needed to make his clarifications heard, more so than Jordan was lavish with time given freely to Maajid. 👀👍 Let truth be above “what sounds good”. 🗽🏆
I agree. Jordans enthusiasm is a key part of his conversations, but it often interferes with the guest's time to formulate ideas. This conversation was noticeably different. And as a result, I got a lot of new Ideas (or another spin on ideas I heard before). If this was on purpose: good job Jordan :D I think, combined with your extremely broad range of guests (with unique ideas) this spirit can make your, already outstanding podcast, ... well, dangerously transforming... Or something like that^^
You probably won't read this yourself, but for the small chance that you do I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart dr. Peterson. I have been depressed for about 9 years and your video's gave me the courage to seek help. I found out I have a mental illness and I have medication now that works extremely well for me. I am really greatful for all you have done, because without you I'm not sure this message would have ever been written. I was as low mentally as you could imagine. You saved my life and you saved my family from alot of missery. ❤
What you have just shared gives Jordon the most satisfaction. I started watching his classroom lectures years ago now and I knew he was special. Keep going.❤
What a time to be alive and watch such remarkable conversation between these man who have their conduct so on point. What a shame we couldn't have our governors to look anything like these two gentleman..
4:34 - Maajid’s smile when Jordan talks about the Cathy Newman interview communicates so much without a single word. So satisfying. I feel the same way, Maajid.
Maajid was an excellent guest -- honorable, well-spoken, and incredibly thoughtful. And of course Jordan was as great as ever. What an excellent interview.
Incredible interview. Pure Gold. Amazing how both men are warriors in defense of language. In this they are truly united. Peterson rose to fame by refusing to allow his language to be hijacked and policed into incomprehensible pronouns. Brilliant and gripping discussion!!! This is what mature dialogue looks like
Thank you Jordan and Maajid. I'm incredibly grateful to be a part of this conversation if only as a listener. It would have taken me many lifetimes to reach the wisdom you both demonstrate in this conversation.
I can say similar as I would need at least another lifetime. No matter the point where we all are in our learned knowledge, let us hope we will continue to seek and learn more everyday. I have several grandchildren and young friends and I try to influence them to have a love for learning ❤️
Have a love for learning hypocrisy, shame, words couched in internal meanings that disqualified one group of people and to elevate another, is that what means to learning.
He only made pro Israelites happy while not even caring about the sentiments of the Palestinians who are being deprived of their rights and being brutality discriminated against by Apartheid state of Israel. Showed his true colour and where his interests lie.
@@najmaalikhan So so sad...Barely nobody advocates those who've already lost their voice to report their ongoing struggle and are held back from being able to determine their own path.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
BRO this whole conversation elevated me spiritually and intellectually. This perspective aligns with Islam and probably other abrahamic faiths too. It is essentially brining back spirituality into our daily lives and interactions.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
I don't believe I have ever seen two people speak with such a deep, passionate understanding of humanity... What a great gift these men have given the world by embracing humility to the extent that they could wrestle with these ideas and share them with us... God bless both of you... 🙏
Hello, those were also my thoughts. It drew together threads of my own thoughts into a wider realisation. It crystallised that, for the first time, all humans are now in jeopardy, due to the beliefs and actions of other humans. Rather than as a consequence of the natural world.
Jordan is on another level with his intellect and grasp of the truth on a whole host of topics. I love to see him in action and feel blessed to have such a man on this platform. Great Britain is not what it used to be, that's for sure 🇬🇧
I love Mr Jordan Peterson...ever time I watch Jordan Peterson content, I am educated and he opens my mind. He is a Legend and one of our times Greatest Minds. Thank you
I absolutely love how JP listens and takes notes. If there is anyone who can show world leaders, or anyone for that matter, how to properly engage in a debate or conversation it's him. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them and their perspective. The world is in dire need of effective communication.
What a beautiful conversation and meeting of the minds. Myself as an example, one does not need to be an intellect to grasp what these men have put forward. I may possibly repeat listening; there are such basic and “sacred” concepts. I hope the sacred concepts will spread far and wide. Please keep this in my heart and in the hearts of all good people on this earth. Thank you, so very much!❤🙏🌕
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Everyone on this thread are (b) grade magicians bad actors, extremely poor quality jesters pretending to being able to destroy the illusion in front of people through creating another that is flowery You guys will end down Alice’s hole sucking face with frogs 😅 🐸🧞♂️💥👈
Maajid is an absolute gem, he really bolstered me during the height of the nonsense. They got him off of UK TV because of it, but he didn't stop talking. I'm proud to call him my countryman. Words are indeed spells Maajid.
And he's correct when he says that he spoke out against antisemitism. He's spoken out about Muslim grooming gangs. He spoke out against the lockdowns. He's a man of principle.
The man has courage, clarity and compassion by the spadeful - rare to find someone so articulate in the political arena who also has a sense of spiritual oneness and who is not afraid to invoke it ..
@@leegrant7333 so Jordan doesn't claim his knowledge as validated by his education certifications and clinical work? You're flat wrong here. Claims to Authority are one thing, but experiential knowledge should not be assumed to be Claims To Authority like you are trying to equate them in your comment.
JP should invite Netanyahu and Maajid to table for a conversation. Conversations like these ones are important for peace. Remember, when diplomacy fails, war begins
I have never watched any Daily Wire(DW) program before this one and my observation is this conversation(and others like this)is banned from CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc but it’s welcomed on DW. Thank you Dr Peterson.
Dr. JP, I love how you take pillars of idea networks and simplify them to the point anyone can understand and discuss. Incredibly grateful for your service and dedication. Take care
In this lunatic times, I think letting my ears flow in this incredible talk, release a big dose of positivity and makes me see this world utterly positive, so my salute goes from the heart to Jordan Peterson and Mr.Maajid ! Thank you
Listened to majid on lbc and was enraged when they removed him, I have now found him on this platform and applaud his absolute determination to have his vies of truth heard This interview altho way above my intellectual capacity was insightful and intriguing. I applaud these two very intelligent people and believe we can learn a lot from them. Pleased they have a platform
As a jew that is closely following the, say, muslim-jewish situation, I have to say this is gold. It's hard for me to listen to the other side but I try and push myself. I've just listened to this and I got to say, Maajid is a man that I deeply respect and can learn from. People like him can make jew-muslim peace a possibility and conversations like these as well. Thank you!
I can say the same thing as an Arab. It's hard for me to listen to the other side. But I do respect Jewish people on an individual basis. I really like Ben Shapiro for example. I would never agree with him when it comes to Israel but I like his takes on other important matters and he lives a respectable life.
Jews and Muslims have always been at peace it’s Israel that tore it apart Muslims have always given Jews refuge and protection from Christian persecution that’s why 65% of Israeli Jews are from Muslim and Arab lands and why when Muslim Spain fell Jews left with Muslims to Morocco when Portugal started killing Jews then Jews came to turkey when the first crusaders came Jews fought with Muslims and when jerselum fell from Muslim control Jews were expelled and were allowed to return after 89 years when Muslims retook it under Saladin and also in 637ac when umar the second caliph of Islam for the first time led Muslims to conqueror Jerusalem and the whole Palestine and took Palestine from the Romans he allowed Jews to return and our sources mention he cried and fell to his knees and started cleaning it himself and soon the whole Arab army started cleaning it when he seen how the Roman’s turned the western wall to a dumpster site where they would put their feces and other garbage like imagine the leader of the Muslim world the most powerful man on the face of this earth is crying and cleaning the holy site of the Jews and also he asked the Christian high bishop “where are the Jews” and the Christian bishop said “ we killed or expelled them all or mostly all of them except a few” and umar said “ how can you expel the Jews,when some of our most blessed prophets were from them” and umar decreed that Jews were allowed to return and he wanted a former Jewish convert to Islam to bring 10 Jewish families and umar would pay for them to live there like the Jews survived because Muslim gave them protection from Christian europe if there was no Islam or Muslims then Christian’s would’ve conquered the whole Middle East and North Africa and they would’ve eventually exterminated the Jews but because of Muslims they could never do that because we would protect Jews with our own lives and Jews were apart of us and we have great respect for them and we worship the same god and we revere all the Jewish prophets & Jews were welcomed in Muslim lands and it’s was their home and they were apart of it like I seen Iraqi Jews cry when Iraq was getting invaded and Libyan Jews cry when Libya was getting invaded and I seen I video of a 80 year old Libyan jew saying “ they’re bombing Libya they’re bombing my country” and I swear that made me cry because Jews were apart of our societies and it’s sad Zionism and Zionist tricked and made them feel they were different and that their countries were not their countries and were Muslim countries and that they would never be welcomed you see all expulsion and attack on Jews in Muslim lands happened after Israel and Zionism started and Zionist are disgusting inhumane thieves and savages
Jordan didn’t challenge Netanyahu in the slightest and when Nawaz questioned him on how Netanyahu claimed that the land of Israel was barren Jordan avoids the question and starts talking about woke culture. Why are you not questioning this situation like you do everything else Jordan. This feels like there is a agenda being implemented with this particular topic and I believe it is going against your values as a educator Mr. Peterson and I hope you come to this realization.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
In 1867 Mark Twain visited Palestine. Here are some of his findings as documented in his “The innocents abroad” travel book: “Desolation of the landscape & ugliness of its people. Mostly “a silent, mournful expanse,” dotted with “nasty” villages of “miserable huts” & “the usual assemblage of squalid humanity” - disfigured wretches “fringed with filthy rags” & “infested with vermin,” naked & “sore-eyed” children “in all stages of mutilation & decay.” “Palestine sits in sackcloth & ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that withered its fields. Jericho lies a moldering ruin. Bethlehem & Bethany, in their poverty & humiliation. Jerusalem lost all its ancient grandeur & become a pauper village” "..... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
According to the Ottoman empire's census from around 1880, there were approximately 440,000 people living in Israel, out of which Jews were around 10%. By 1948 there were about 1.5 millions Arabs and 600k Jews. The population grew so quickly because Jewish returnees dried the swamps, planted forests in the desert, built hospitals, and created jobs. This resulted in an immigration wave and a drop in infant mortality rates and an increase in life expectancy. The Jewish population grew faster than the Arab population despite the Jews being subjected to immigration restrictions, while the Arabs were not.
Thank you Maajid for not letting that interview with Nitenyaho go without debate and correction !! I still see Mr. Peterson struggling to choose his words here in attempt to not be backfired and cancelled .
A fine conversation between two men I have great respect for. Thank you both for your insights, the work that you do, and for being a genuine force for good.
Majjid's first response was incredibly gripping. As the interview went on you could unpack Majjid's mission on a metaphysical level. This was an unbelievable conversation between two very intelligent individuals.
He never answered the main question.. did Bibi say anything not factual? Kind of amazing that ppl allow the Palestinians to lie about history but get mad when the Israelis speak the truth
I don't think I have ever witnessed a conversation as in depth as this one. JP was extremely humble too, which made me respect him even more, the opposite reaction to what most expect to humility.
I didn't think so. When he mentioned the idea that Islam isn't accepted in the Christian civilization, I think that the conversation should have stopped right there for him to expand on what he meant. If he assumes that an apartheid civilization should be accepted by an open one, then I'd say he's got a few screws loose.
Patrice ONeal used to say in O&A show that we were loosing the sense of context, back in like 2010, this great conversation proves him right, on that and many other things.
Please continue to talk to more Muslims JB in the long form interview. I would have loved to hear you tackle additional topics together. Nice conversation JB and MN! Hoping to see more of the Radical podcast as well...
Maajid is a grifter and a snake in the grass, nothing more. He will lie to your face and you will swallow it, hook, line and sinker. He’s about as British as the halal meat and Sharia Law, that he supports. Get a clue.
What a mind blowing conversation this was. Very strong. It help clarify, enlighten, and connect the dots. The discussion on the sacred demonstrates our underlying problem. We can not be separated from the big fundamental...we are only going farther and farther astray and trying to replace it with whatever movement or principality is false and doesn't fill that void properly.
Only Jesus Christ can save us from what's coming to all mankind. Put your trust in Him who proved His love for you by dying to pay for your sins and rising from the grave to show you what's possible when you fear not, only believe. 🙏✝️❤️ He is risen.
I’m not going to lie. Not sure why Jordan petersons intetview with nehtanyahu rubbed me the wrong way. I’d think he’s intellectual enough to understand what’s happening to Palestinians is literally a genocide.
I like JP, but the Israel/Palestine issue is far, far bigger than him, and he knows that. So he adopts the mainstream judeo-christian opinion: that Israel is right, and Palestine is wrong, and judeo-christians should support Israel. This, without regard to how Israel came to be, and the history of the past 2000 years. He does this with a lot of issues. In large part, it's definitely to not alienate his audience.
Israel - the size of New Jersey Israel has: - An Arab Supreme Court judge - Countless Arab judges - Police chiefs - Freely elected Parliament MPs - 1/3 of all Israeli doctors are Arabs (same with professors) - Freedom of speech & religion - Gov. ministers 3 Israeli prime ministers offered the Palestinians %97 of the West Bank, & East Jerusalem as capitol. They refused. Said NO to negotiations! Palestinian leader Yaser Arafat died as one of the world's richest dictators All US, EU, Arab countries & UN aid money stolen, gone. Corruption on steroids! IMF still searching for 70 billion $ stolen from Palestinians Only recipient - Suha Arafat., Yasser’s ‘beloved’ & benevolent…wife ($40,000,000) Escaped France (embezzlement) Stripped of Tunisian citizenship-corruption HAMAS Covenant (Aug 18, ’88). ISRAE DESTRUCTION through Jihad "Israel will exist “UNTIL JIHAD OBLITERATES IT” Article 13: “ No solution for Palestinian question except Jihad." [P. 7] Article 11: “Palestine - an Islamic land for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. The next morning Hamas & Islamic Jihad (both armed & financed by genocidal Iran) began launching more than 100,000 rockets to kill, injure, terrorize, traumatise & shell-shock Israeli men, women, children, toddlers & pets. 30 seconds to seek refuge & duck for life. …Remember, Morality is color blind
Another American or Pakistani illiterate in Islam? or someone who thinks Islam isn't modern enough? Majid Nawaz has been a black sheep of the Muslims. Majid Nawaz isn't the best person to speak up for Muslims and Islam. he is a tool and by defination is fascist, liberal and anti-islamic moron. He kept going against Islam and Muslim to enrich himself while sitting in night clubs and using foul langauge while publically sexualizing his own wife. His basic morals and values are totally messed up; his institution failed and stopped when funding stopped. now knowing him and his institution that he has built, he will shake hands with zionist to sell Islam and Muslims again to enrich himself. The dude doesn't even speak arabic. he is pakistani moron who has no basic ground in fiqh sciences and Islamic foundational sciences.
“Israel didn’t exist before 1948” , really ? Who was King Saul ? Who was King David ? Sorry there is no “West Bank” it’s called Judea ( the land of the Jew ). Jordan , God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac NOT the child of some Egyptian whore slave (Ishmael ) , salvation is of the Jews . Palestine comes from the word Philistine , they don’t exist anymore. There will be peace when the Arab loves their children more than they hate the Jews
Thank you to both for this real true honest Debate between two real Human being… wether they agree or not, being able to exchange respectfully and bring a dialogue to this very difficult subject is a start at least… all my respect gentlemen 🙏🏼 as a Muslim, that gives me hope for next generations .
I dont know where i am but i believe its the same god, but we have an islamic, christian or jewish practice of our god. I see value in all of them. And surely where they all agree, that must be the most important truth for the most peoples. Thank you gentlemen 🙏
I have one important contribution to make at the point of agreement between them about the UN2030 Sustainable Development Goals. It is this. Governments and pharma have agreed business terms to acquire sufficient doses of mRNA-based vaccines to inject every citizen ten (10) times over. Now, mRNA-based products force the cells of our body to express non-self proteins. Axiomatically, this will induce autoimmune attack upon whatever cell & tissue expresses the encoded protein. You do that 10 times over. What do you think might happen? Yes, I think that, too. Yet that’s our future.
I'm happy Maajid mentioned Sufism and Ibn Arabi. I genuinely believe Dr. Peterson should dive more into Sufism generally and Ibn Arabi's philosophy specifically.
could you imagine that far leftist woke King Charles knighting Jordan Peterson? He's far too busy destroying his own country to worry about recognizing exceptional people in the Commonwealth.
Thank you to both men for this incredible discussion. Each man presented their points so eloquently They graciously accepted ideas and where there was disagreement, it was explained so beautifully and humbly. I long for these discussions and am weary of the division that keeps everyone ignorant of the truth . This podcast is a treasure to behold.
I felt humbled by this interview. It made me realize that I need to do a much better job of giving people an audience to help me understand their point of view. I know I dismiss people too easily when I don’t share their fundamental beliefs. It’s really about showing love, patience, respect and giving the gift of time to those who want to share their story. “Freely you have received, freely give”.
The most beautiful part is how they start off with all the similarities, which creates an immediate bond of respect. Among them and also with me as a viewer. Really eye opening
Very well said. So grateful for this eye and heart opening conversation. Respect for both Jordan Peterson and Maajid Nawaz for their profound knowledge and underdranding things as they are.
No, it's not about giving 'love'. Don't link it with a fleeting and fickle emotion such as love, because the minute you no longer have love, or the minute you actually feel hate, you'll no longer do it. It's about having a fundamental and genuine interest in the TRUTH. Once you have that, you'll need patience and respect. If you have a genuine interest in the truth, you'll want to engage with people instead of dismissing them, because you're actively seeking the truth. And hearing other people's views and opposite views is one of the best and most efficient ways to arrive at truths. If you engage with people with opposite views, you'll need patience and respect in order to hold a proper conversation, WITHOUT letting your emotions take control. Patience and respect will act as a deterrent to the rampart emotions that may arise from a heated debate / conversation. And throughout the conversation, your genuine interest in the truth, will be the driving force that allows you to navigate it.
I grew up with parents that are Armenian and Jewish. They represent the unity of 2 religion so coming together that also share a common tragedy. I lived in Israel, I had moderate friends from all religions, now by marriage I am Hindu. It is possible for some people to get along but when a certain group of the global population remains hateful in their hearts and have a strong belief that they have a Divine right to kill and exterminate another because they are different. This is what we must continue to work and fight against. This theological racism is what must be defeated
Very good day to you Mr.Peterson. Nothing but love & regards from my side. Avid follower & student of your works Sir. I compliment and extend my regards to you for everytime sincerely trying to comprehend both sides of the discussion. Especailly the way you tread around mulim beliefs trying your best not to step over anyones feelings and or beliefs in the process of discussing matters that are sensitive and highly important. So i wish for your knowlege on all matters of importance to grow towards the ideas what would end up being correct and part of solutions to things the world have still have not found answers to. My salam Mr. Majid aswell, i also appreciate your way of trying to express the degree of truth that your belief and views hold, and i certainly appreciate your willingness to also be a voice of reason in times where states and governments are least pushed about such avenues to the problems in the world. I wish intelligent and honest people like yourselves prosper in thier good intent & endeavours to speak for voices that arent heard, for the assistance in the comprehension of people who dont understand the realities of the world around them and for the helping and enlightening of the ignorant members of society. ☀️
I would like to see a conversation in rebuttal to Netanyahu. This is a very broad conversation and doesn't share the same pinpointed focus that Netanyahu displayed in your previous conversation.
I loved this entire conversation. I'm a Lebanese Christian, and I've seen the other end of exclusionary language that's used here in Lebanon where Israel is considered the enemy that needs to be exterminated in order for Palestinians to reclaim their land. Very well done by Nawaz who considering his background has never once mentioned any retaliation against the Jews and in fact has defended them during anti-Semitic waves. He is also dead-on about there being people on both sides who benefit from the continuation of the conflict, one of them being Hezbollah which uses it to create fear among his followers and maintain a grip on the Lebanese government. As for the topic of language and its lost context, I think this idea interestingly enough isn't a strange one to artists. An artist knows this diminishing effect of the destructive and analysing brain and avoids it as much as possible. Lots of painters refuse to post their renditions online, even for whatever viewing price, because not experiencing them in person is meaningless and removes the context of it. This is also similar to those who cannot stand using digital cameras and instead use the old Polaroids and like to feel the image in their hands after they've taken it. It's applicable to music as well, where hearing a song through earphones or the phone speaker loses so much of the full extent of musical information that you can hear in headphones or high-fidelity sound systems. I wish there were contributors who worked on reviving the lost meanings of the text in the same way that Nawaz did here. Because not only have we lost the context of Arabic, we've nearly stopped using it altogether.
@@jsbrads1 Hold up, I've never heard of her before and looking her up now she seems a bit extremist. Sure she had it tough growing up in the Lebanese civil war, who hasn't? But that's no excuse for her current views. To be clear I am not insinuating any anti-muslim narrative in my comment above. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that does not represent any comprehensive subset of muslims, but rather uses tactics of propagandistic fearmongering to force muslims in lebanon into siding with them and keep them in political power.
@@jsbrads1 almost everything as 99.9% of Lebanese people for good reasons. She talks in a form that makes her look insightful and intellectual but does t have much substance. It’s all fluff.
It started about the Abraham Accords, where both parties clearly took opposing sides. However, they deviated from this topic, delving into philosophical discussions on matters where they are in agreement
No conversation, one said JudoChristian west, other said JudoChrisrianIslamic west. one said Abrah acord is inclusive, other said exclusive. Everyone said his point without real engegement.
The “solution” to conflict in the Middle East is easy…temporary peace will come for a little while from a man pretending to be both the muslim and jewish messiah once Christians disappear, then more war will follow, then Jesus will appear and people will finally realize He is God. Otherwise, peace cannot happen in the Middle East…ever.
@@christophenevejan4782 The word “conversation” derives from two Latin roots; namely com meaning “together” and versare meaning “to turn.” Hence it literally means “turning together” - perhaps a daily life understanding of structural coupling.
Your podcast with Netanyahu was and still is unanswered for! And I (like many others like me) in my trust, admiration, and respect for you, believe that you will address it properly by actually addressing it not just naming a podcast as a response to it while conversing about Davos, schwab and his minions ; those are devils with devilish plans, we know. But how your interview, Dr Peterson, went with Netanyahu is a specific issue of itself that needs rectifying with specificity not through this podcast.
Agreed. Very disappointing interview as none of the lies and Zionist Supremacist Propaganda he allowed Satan Netanyahu to push were challenged. Not sure why Majid Nawaz discussed philosophy and Convid-19 instead of the lies propagated by Peterson
Good point but I think JP is smart enough to not upset netandshithu. deep down in sure he his smart enough to understand and feel the evil that man eminates.
@@cyxsI I think JP's way was his own personal approach ie curiosity and peace promoting, the editing and title of this video was probably done by the media team not him personally. I didn't even watch the zzzzzzyahu interview because the mere sight of him makes me sick, anything he's got to say I've heard it before, just like a tape recorder.
I get your respect for him, we share in that. But being lebanese and knowing the struggle and inhumane injustice inflicted on the Palestinians, i expected the Jordan Peterson that doesnt leave one rock unteruned in his quest for thruth - to probe and ask tough questions and use examples and numbers and specific data about the reality the palestinians are living.. not give him free time to justify his twsited version of what is done to Palestine.
Another fantastic morning, thank you.. speaking to the sacred and to the forgotten is always enlightening. To embrace the challenge of language while embracing the sacred needs to be the first commitment of us all on a daily basis… 🙏
they said a whole lot of nothing, it was civil that's just about it.. but as for enlightening it was very much surface level.. but that's just my opinion
Another great interview, but Maajid was wrong with his criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel didn't exist before 1947, As Netanyahu spoke about Israel did exist 3500 years ago which goes to what Netanyahu was saying that the Muslim don't recognize. Also with his criticism about the squatting, Netanyahu argued when you invest in the place you occupy you put down roots and are more entwined with the land. As Mark Twain wrote “The further we went the hotter the sun got, and the more rocky and bare, repulsive and dreary the landscape became…There was hardly a tree or a shrub any where. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country”. The statement reflects his general attitude to the ancient land throughout his journey.Exactly what Netanyahu spoke about and so the Jews returned and started to rebuild and offer árabes a better way of life.And the rest of your interview was very absorbing.
Majid is such a smart man. I genuinely feel more intelligent just from listening to these 2. This is why I love Jordan. He interviews real intellectuals with real ideas and a good vision for peace.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims… Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned. One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren. Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence). Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity. Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!) Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT) Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail. Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity. Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY). Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch) The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!! The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!! The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
He mentioned that the Muslim civilization should be included in the Judeo Christian one, which makes no sense whatsoever. How are Christians treated in the Muslim civilization? Very badly.
So much good stuff here. Going to have to watch this one a few times to unpack it all. Thank you Jordan and Maajid for the spectacular, thought provoking conversation!
Accepting yourself just the way you are is something you should only do for a moment. It involves looking at reality, and if we don’t accept the truth about who we are when we take that moment to look, so that we can deal with what’s not right, then we won’t really look. We won’t really see. Seeing the truth, accepting the truth about yourself is the first step to making all the little changes moment to moment, day by day, from year to year, and throughout our lifetimes.
You had me at Danger Mouse, Maajid. I used to watch that as a kid. In all seriousness though, two very wise men having a very informative discussion. We need more of this!
Tamerandli ״at this point, I am wondering if JP knows about Edward Said. I would really encourage him to read up on him.״ at this point, I am wondering you know Prof. Bernard Lewis. I would really encourage you to read up on him.
Bernard Lewis, (31 May 1916 - 19 May 2018) was A UK/USA historian specialized in Oriental Studies studies. He was also known as a public intellectual & political commentator. Lewis was the Cleveland E. Dodge Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University. Lewis's expertise was in the history of Islam and the interaction between Islam and the West. Lewis served as a soldier in the British Army in the Royal Armoured Corps and the Intelligence Corps during the Second World War before being seconded to the Foreign Office. After the war, he returned to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London and was appointed to the new chair in Near and Middle Eastern Studies. In 2007 Lewis was called "the West's leading interpreter of the Middle East". Others have argued Lewis's approach is essentialist and generalizing to the Muslim world, as well as his tendency to restate hypotheses that were challenged by more recent research. On a political level, Lewis is accused by his detractors with having revived the image of the cultural inferiority of Islam and of emphasizing the dangers of Jihad.
Lewis served as a soldier in the British Army in the Royal Armoured Corps and the Intelligence Corps during the Second World War before being seconded to the Foreign Office. After the war, he returned to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London and was appointed to the new chair in Near and Middle Eastern Studies. In 2007 Lewis was called "the West's leading interpreter of the Middle East". Others have argued Lewis's approach is essentialist and generalizing to the Muslim world, as well as his tendency to restate hypotheses that were challenged by more recent research. On a political level, Lewis is accused by his detractors with having revived the image of the cultural inferiority of Islam and of emphasizing the dangers of Jihad.
There was an element of solzenhytzen in Maajid when he spoke about having to explore all the ways he had contributed to the problems he was trying to solve. Beautiful interview 🥰
I really like Maajid. That was a great conversation! As a Christian, I do think we all need each other no matter whether we are Jewish, Islamic, or Christian.
The answers is No. I’m a Christian , You say you a Christian but I can clearly see by your statement that you have not read the Quran and Hadith. The amount of pedophilia, hate against Jews and Christian is unbelievable. Islam is a violent religion if not a religion at all.
@@mogznwaz not really athiests see religion as a danger and want it gone so ofcourse it cant be together with the abrahamic religions(outliers dont matter fwi)
As an Orthodox Israeli Jew, I really enjoyed this conversation. The title had me defensive, but the content was inline with most of my personal beliefs.
What a wonderful meeting this was! And no accident that at the end of all the discourse and explanation it is, and always has been, so very simple. We are sacred, and to remain so must remember this, and act in ways to encourage others to be so. Simple, but hard. The whole world is in our way, but only because we have been trying to be separate from it, instead of part of it.
Totally. I too feel this after 53 yrs & connected with what he was saying regarding separation. Its so paradoxingly basic yet complicated to realise we are what we're experiencing, including everything & everyone in it. Hard to wrap your head around due to the illusion of physical reality. Thus faith. Once you understand why treat others the way you would like to be treated is the golden rule you can forgive them for they know not what they do.
Really big Thank You for this. Maajid was terrific at expanding some of the complexity associated with a problem Britain contributed to in 1948, but one that of course goes back - as you discuss here - more than a millennia. I’m one of the (many) insufficiently informed white English Christian males and this conversation I hope can be part of a longer series that dives broad and deep into this precious part of the world (yes, I know, it’s all precious) and the challenges around love, empathy, respect, tolerance, communications (illuminating the world, the role of story and of history being the future, before writing) was terrific.
Maajid is nothing but an opportunist. He was funded by the UK for his Quilliam foundation and after that money dried up, he's seeking popularity amongst the Muslims again. People fall for his use of cleaver words but when you really listen to him over time, you wonder what he actually believes.
Palestinian which were the high majority in that land, were not pushed out by war in 1948. (If they were, it would be sorta acceptable to them.) They were hustled out of their land under pretence of peace and promise of same land. While "allied powers" gave in unethical fashion and still give military might, nuclear power, intellectual property, financial aid to isreal to harm Arabs and others to keep games of politcal check. Its similar and a refined form of British East India company saying, hey we're just trading and are not turning Indians into replacements for slave trade and then took over and plundered them. At least folks who engage in war have the courage and honesty to say it is a war. This trickory of harming victims and then blaming the victims is unjustified. So you can falsely say someone mightier took over and oh it was Isreali land to begin with, when fact is, these are manipulations and lies to say heads I win and tails you lose. Lies cannot be turned into truth. Injustice, cannot be turned into something justifiable. Just becuase its your turn to deal the cards doesnt mean it will stay that way. People will always look back and call a spade a spade.
Well done guys. That was a very interesting conversation. Maajid's wisdom reminded me a teaching I heard once from a rabbi about the loss of original speach - "the holy tongue", and the story of the tower of babel, still going on today.
~Thank you Maajid, important and powerful. Much respect for JBP for continuing great philosophical dialogue. This is what media should present for us, for us all to evolve as a whole.
I listened to it again and still say these big words mean nothing when you can see the annexation of Palestine and Golan heights as something tolerable
Maajids last Rogan appearance is one of the most important episodes of JRE. That and the latest James Lindsay episode. Check those out if you haven't yet.
Great interview. Great, great interview. Never knew Maajid before. Now I’ll never forget him. A true representation that pure religion is love, and a stellar example of building inter faith dialogue, and bridges instead of fences. Or offences. Thank you Jordan for inviting him.
JBP - you allowed Maajid to speak freely without interruption, this was fantastic!
Amen. They _both_ allowed the other their full say. That's how it should be.
Yeah wonderful Jordan 👍✌️♥️🙏
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To be fair; Maajid took liberty of butting in when he needed to make his clarifications heard, more so than Jordan was lavish with time given freely to Maajid. 👀👍
Let truth be above “what sounds good”. 🗽🏆
I agree. Jordans enthusiasm is a key part of his conversations, but it often interferes with the guest's time to formulate ideas.
This conversation was noticeably different. And as a result, I got a lot of new Ideas (or another spin on ideas I heard before).
If this was on purpose: good job Jordan :D
I think, combined with your extremely broad range of guests (with unique ideas) this spirit can make your, already outstanding podcast, ... well, dangerously transforming... Or something like that^^
You probably won't read this yourself, but for the small chance that you do I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart dr. Peterson. I have been depressed for about 9 years and your video's gave me the courage to seek help. I found out I have a mental illness and I have medication now that works extremely well for me. I am really greatful for all you have done, because without you I'm not sure this message would have ever been written. I was as low mentally as you could imagine. You saved my life and you saved my family from alot of missery. ❤
All the best mate
I’m so happy for you
What you have just shared gives Jordon the most satisfaction. I started watching his classroom lectures years ago now and I knew he was special.
Keep going.❤
What a time to be alive and watch such remarkable conversation between these man who have their conduct so on point. What a shame we couldn't have our governors to look anything like these two gentleman..
Jordan is like the narrator of the world's best essays, but in real time. Genius level conduct of any langauge.
4:34 - Maajid’s smile when Jordan talks about the Cathy Newman interview communicates so much without a single word. So satisfying. I feel the same way, Maajid.
Maajid was an excellent guest -- honorable, well-spoken, and incredibly thoughtful. And of course Jordan was as great as ever. What an excellent interview.
Incredible interview. Pure Gold. Amazing how both men are warriors in defense of language. In this they are truly united. Peterson rose to fame by refusing to allow his language to be hijacked and policed into incomprehensible pronouns. Brilliant and gripping discussion!!! This is what mature dialogue looks like
Nawaz is the most boring, word salad-er I've heard since forever. He prattles on and on and never says a damn thing.
Thank you Jordan and Maajid. I'm incredibly grateful to be a part of this conversation if only as a listener. It would have taken me many lifetimes to reach the wisdom you both demonstrate in this conversation.
I can say similar as I would need at least another lifetime.
No matter the point where we all are in our learned knowledge, let us hope we will continue to seek and learn more everyday.
I have several grandchildren and young friends and I try to influence them to have a love for learning ❤️
You sound craven.
Have a love for learning hypocrisy, shame, words couched in internal meanings that disqualified one group of people and to elevate another, is that what means to learning.
He only made pro Israelites happy while not even caring about the sentiments of the Palestinians who are being deprived of their rights and being brutality discriminated against by Apartheid state of Israel. Showed his true colour and where his interests lie.
@@najmaalikhan So so sad...Barely nobody advocates those who've already lost their voice to report their ongoing struggle and are held back from being able to determine their own path.
I don't usually fall in love with documentaries, but this one is stunningly beautiful. A masterpiece!
You sound craven
Bernard Baars, the inventor of the Global Workspace theory of consciousness? Small world
What documentary?
Love listening to intelligent/open minded/well educated men. refreshing in this lunatic times
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims…
Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned.
One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren.
Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence).
Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity.
Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail.
Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity.
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY).
Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force
Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch)
The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!!
The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!!
The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
BRO this whole conversation elevated me spiritually and intellectually. This perspective aligns with Islam and probably other abrahamic faiths too. It is essentially brining back spirituality into our daily lives and interactions.
Thank you so much Jordan and Maajid for this brilliant upload . We need more active voices for truth and peace
Meanwhile....
SO POWERFUL!! Listening to this discourse is extremely pleasurable. Feeling the presence of Him, who presides over us all. 🙏
You sound craven!!
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims…
Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned.
One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren.
Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence).
Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity.
Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail.
Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity.
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY).
Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force
Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch)
The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!!
The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!!
The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims…
Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned.
One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren.
Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence).
Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity.
Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail.
Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity.
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY).
Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force
Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch)
The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!!
The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!!
The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
I don't believe I have ever seen two people speak with such a deep, passionate understanding of humanity... What a great gift these men have given the world by embracing humility to the extent that they could wrestle with these ideas and share them with us...
God bless both of you... 🙏
Hello, those were also my thoughts.
It drew together threads of my own thoughts into a wider realisation.
It crystallised that, for the first time, all humans are now in jeopardy, due to the beliefs and actions of other humans. Rather than as a consequence of the natural world.
U need to meet/listen to more people
@@RojaJaneman I listen to a lot of people speak on many different topics.. Perhaps you have a suggestion?
@@mclagett1043 which subjects do u fancy?
@@RojaJaneman Philosophy, psychology, poetry, religion and to a lesser degree current events...
Jordan is on another level with his intellect and grasp of the truth on a whole host of topics. I love to see him in action and feel blessed to have such a man on this platform. Great Britain is not what it used to be, that's for sure 🇬🇧
I love Mr Jordan Peterson...ever time I watch Jordan Peterson content, I am educated and he opens my mind. He is a Legend and one of our times Greatest Minds. Thank you
I absolutely love how JP listens and takes notes. If there is anyone who can show world leaders, or anyone for that matter, how to properly engage in a debate or conversation it's him. You don't have to agree with someone to respect them and their perspective. The world is in dire need of effective communication.
He’s drawing pictures of dicks in the margin, man.
respect should be earned, not given freely. they have earned rejection.
I've noticed that Brand takes notes too.
Hence the interview with Netanyahu which was nothing like him and was like a paid and forced political campaign.
@@Talbot305 That's been his only interview I sensed to be somewhat disingenuous.
Absolutely love this. Love what Mr Peterson is doing. Keep an open mind, stay true, and communicate.
What a beautiful conversation and meeting of the minds. Myself as an example, one does not need to be an intellect to grasp what these men have put forward. I may possibly repeat listening; there are such basic and “sacred” concepts. I hope the sacred concepts will spread far and wide. Please keep this in my heart and in the hearts of all good people on this earth.
Thank you, so very much!❤🙏🌕
Honestly, i don't hear anyone saying Benjamin nathanyahu was factually incorrect on his prior interview with Jordan Peterson
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Everyone on this thread are (b) grade magicians bad actors, extremely poor quality jesters pretending to being able to destroy the illusion in front of people through creating another that is flowery
You guys will end down Alice’s hole sucking face with frogs 😅
🐸🧞♂️💥👈
How fake do you want this comment thread to be?
Maajid is an absolute gem, he really bolstered me during the height of the nonsense. They got him off of UK TV because of it, but he didn't stop talking. I'm proud to call him my countryman.
Words are indeed spells Maajid.
And he's correct when he says that he spoke out against antisemitism. He's spoken out about Muslim grooming gangs. He spoke out against the lockdowns.
He's a man of principle.
The man has courage, clarity and compassion by the spadeful - rare to find someone so articulate in the political arena who also has a sense of spiritual oneness and who is not afraid to invoke it ..
@@leegrant7333 And you claim that you are the one to judge? Funny.
@@leegrant7333 so Jordan doesn't claim his knowledge as validated by his education certifications and clinical work? You're flat wrong here. Claims to Authority are one thing, but experiential knowledge should not be assumed to be Claims To Authority like you are trying to equate them in your comment.
He doesn’t stop to let JP talk
JP should invite Netanyahu and Maajid to table for a conversation. Conversations like these ones are important for peace. Remember, when diplomacy fails, war begins
I have never watched any Daily Wire(DW) program before this one and my observation is this conversation(and others like this)is banned from CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc but it’s welcomed on DW.
Thank you Dr Peterson.
Dr. JP, I love how you take pillars of idea networks and simplify them to the point anyone can understand and discuss. Incredibly grateful for your service and dedication. Take care
In this lunatic times, I think letting my ears flow in this incredible talk, release a big dose of positivity and makes me see this world utterly positive, so my salute goes from the heart to Jordan Peterson and Mr.Maajid ! Thank you
You sound craven!!!!!
@@salvatoreadrade5464 says the musketeer behind his screen, holding his keyboard, spreading courage aroud !
Listened to majid on lbc and was enraged when they removed him, I have now found him on this platform and applaud his absolute determination to have his vies of truth heard
This interview altho way above my intellectual capacity was insightful and intriguing.
I applaud these two very intelligent people and believe we can learn a lot from them.
Pleased they have a platform
I miss him on that radio station too! I can barely stand it now.
LBC shot themselves in the foot for letting him go.
I’m Jewish, and I would follow this man’s lead. Remarkable thinker and proponent of good.
As a jew that is closely following the, say, muslim-jewish situation, I have to say this is gold. It's hard for me to listen to the other side but I try and push myself. I've just listened to this and I got to say, Maajid is a man that I deeply respect and can learn from. People like him can make jew-muslim peace a possibility and conversations like these as well. Thank you!
Salaam, shalom!
I can say the same thing as an Arab. It's hard for me to listen to the other side. But I do respect Jewish people on an individual basis. I really like Ben Shapiro for example. I would never agree with him when it comes to Israel but I like his takes on other important matters and he lives a respectable life.
there's no muslim-jewish issues, it's the zionism we're against
no peace with zionists
Jews and Muslims have always been at peace it’s Israel that tore it apart Muslims have always given Jews refuge and protection from Christian persecution that’s why 65% of Israeli Jews are from Muslim and Arab lands and why when Muslim Spain fell Jews left with Muslims to Morocco when Portugal started killing Jews then Jews came to turkey when the first crusaders came Jews fought with Muslims and when jerselum fell from Muslim control Jews were expelled and were allowed to return after 89 years when Muslims retook it under Saladin and also in 637ac when umar the second caliph of Islam for the first time led Muslims to conqueror Jerusalem and the whole Palestine and took Palestine from the Romans he allowed Jews to return and our sources mention he cried and fell to his knees and started cleaning it himself and soon the whole Arab army started cleaning it when he seen how the Roman’s turned the western wall to a dumpster site where they would put their feces and other garbage like imagine the leader of the Muslim world the most powerful man on the face of this earth is crying and cleaning the holy site of the Jews and also he asked the Christian high bishop “where are the Jews” and the Christian bishop said “ we killed or expelled them all or mostly all of them except a few” and umar said “ how can you expel the Jews,when some of our most blessed prophets were from them” and umar decreed that Jews were allowed to return and he wanted a former Jewish convert to Islam to bring 10 Jewish families and umar would pay for them to live there like the Jews survived because Muslim gave them protection from Christian europe if there was no Islam or Muslims then Christian’s would’ve conquered the whole Middle East and North Africa and they would’ve eventually exterminated the Jews but because of Muslims they could never do that because we would protect Jews with our own lives and Jews were apart of us and we have great respect for them and we worship the same god and we revere all the Jewish prophets & Jews were welcomed in Muslim lands and it’s was their home and they were apart of it like I seen Iraqi Jews cry when Iraq was getting invaded and Libyan Jews cry when Libya was getting invaded and I seen I video of a 80 year old Libyan jew saying “ they’re bombing Libya they’re bombing my country” and I swear that made me cry because Jews were apart of our societies and it’s sad Zionism and Zionist tricked and made them feel they were different and that their countries were not their countries and were Muslim countries and that they would never be welcomed you see all expulsion and attack on Jews in Muslim lands happened after Israel and Zionism started and Zionist are disgusting inhumane thieves and savages
Thank Zionism for the chaos. Muslims jews christians lived peacefully before zionism.
Jordan didn’t challenge Netanyahu in the slightest and when Nawaz questioned him on how Netanyahu claimed that the land of Israel was barren Jordan avoids the question and starts talking about woke culture. Why are you not questioning this situation like you do everything else Jordan. This feels like there is a agenda being implemented with this particular topic and I believe it is going against your values as a educator Mr. Peterson and I hope you come to this realization.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims…
Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned.
One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren.
Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence).
Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity.
Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail.
Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity.
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY).
Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force
Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch)
The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!!
The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!!
The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
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In 1867 Mark Twain visited Palestine. Here are some of his findings as documented in his “The innocents abroad” travel book:
“Desolation of the landscape & ugliness of its people. Mostly “a silent, mournful expanse,” dotted with “nasty” villages of “miserable huts” & “the usual assemblage of squalid humanity” - disfigured wretches “fringed with filthy rags” & “infested with vermin,” naked & “sore-eyed” children “in all stages of mutilation & decay.”
“Palestine sits in sackcloth & ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that withered its fields. Jericho lies a moldering ruin. Bethlehem & Bethany, in their poverty & humiliation. Jerusalem lost all its ancient grandeur & become a pauper village”
"..... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."
@@YaronZ-fr6fm absolutely brilliant brother 👍
According to the Ottoman empire's census from around 1880, there were approximately 440,000 people living in Israel, out of which Jews were around 10%. By 1948 there were about 1.5 millions Arabs and 600k Jews.
The population grew so quickly because Jewish returnees dried the swamps, planted forests in the desert, built hospitals, and created jobs. This resulted in an immigration wave and a drop in infant mortality rates and an increase in life expectancy.
The Jewish population grew faster than the Arab population despite the Jews being subjected to immigration restrictions, while the Arabs were not.
I love both of these men so very very much! This is the sort of example that needs to be set amongst the whole world
Jordan was colonized, I am afraid!
@@bonfelle both are am afraid but soft innocent Naive people is their main target
I love these open debates and fair exchange of communication
OMG YES! He did the smartest move he could possibly have done! True discourse!
Unity, peace, and love brothers. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Enlightening dialogue. Thank you Jordan and Maajid. Peace.
Thank you Maajid for not letting that interview with Nitenyaho go without debate and correction !! I still see Mr. Peterson struggling to choose his words here in attempt to not be backfired and cancelled .
A fine conversation between two men I have great respect for. Thank you both for your insights, the work that you do, and for being a genuine force for good.
Majjid's first response was incredibly gripping. As the interview went on you could unpack Majjid's mission on a metaphysical level. This was an unbelievable conversation between two very intelligent individuals.
He never answered the main question.. did Bibi say anything not factual? Kind of amazing that ppl allow the Palestinians to lie about history but get mad when the Israelis speak the truth
I don't think I have ever witnessed a conversation as in depth as this one. JP was extremely humble too, which made me respect him even more, the opposite reaction to what most expect to humility.
Yes absolutely 💯 agree!!!
I didn't think so. When he mentioned the idea that Islam isn't accepted in the Christian civilization, I think that the conversation should have stopped right there for him to expand on what he meant. If he assumes that an apartheid civilization should be accepted by an open one, then I'd say he's got a few screws loose.
@@SurpriseMeJT The only Apartheid state is Israel.
Patrice ONeal used to say in O&A show that we were loosing the sense of context, back in like 2010, this great conversation proves him right, on that and many other things.
Please continue to talk to more Muslims JB in the long form interview. I would have loved to hear you tackle additional topics together. Nice conversation JB and MN! Hoping to see more of the Radical podcast as well...
I thought I was a fan of LBC and then Maajid left and I couldn’t understand why it was going downhill. Now I know.
Maajid is a British gem!
Maajid is a grifter and a snake in the grass, nothing more. He will lie to your face and you will swallow it, hook, line and sinker. He’s about as British as the halal meat and Sharia Law, that he supports. Get a clue.
His shows were memory-holed as thought-crime
Another top tier dialogue! Maajid has articulated precisely what it is we are in the midst of. Thank you both (all) so much for this episode !
You sound very craven.
What a mind blowing conversation this was. Very strong. It help clarify, enlighten, and connect the dots. The discussion on the sacred demonstrates our underlying problem. We can not be separated from the big fundamental...we are only going farther and farther astray and trying to replace it with whatever movement or principality is false and doesn't fill that void properly.
Only Jesus Christ can save us from what's coming to all mankind. Put your trust in Him who proved His love for you by dying to pay for your sins and rising from the grave to show you what's possible when you fear not, only believe. 🙏✝️❤️ He is risen.
I’m not going to lie. Not sure why Jordan petersons intetview with nehtanyahu rubbed me the wrong way. I’d think he’s intellectual enough to understand what’s happening to Palestinians is literally a genocide.
I like JP, but the Israel/Palestine issue is far, far bigger than him, and he knows that. So he adopts the mainstream judeo-christian opinion: that Israel is right, and Palestine is wrong, and judeo-christians should support Israel. This, without regard to how Israel came to be, and the history of the past 2000 years. He does this with a lot of issues. In large part, it's definitely to not alienate his audience.
Israel - the size of New Jersey
Israel has:
- An Arab Supreme Court judge
- Countless Arab judges
- Police chiefs
- Freely elected Parliament MPs
- 1/3 of all Israeli doctors are Arabs (same with professors)
- Freedom of speech & religion
- Gov. ministers
3 Israeli prime ministers offered the Palestinians %97 of the West Bank, & East Jerusalem as capitol. They refused. Said NO to negotiations!
Palestinian leader Yaser Arafat died as one of the world's richest dictators
All US, EU, Arab countries & UN aid money stolen, gone. Corruption on steroids!
IMF still searching for 70 billion $ stolen from Palestinians
Only recipient - Suha Arafat., Yasser’s ‘beloved’ & benevolent…wife ($40,000,000)
Escaped France (embezzlement)
Stripped of Tunisian citizenship-corruption
HAMAS Covenant (Aug 18, ’88).
ISRAE DESTRUCTION through Jihad "Israel will exist “UNTIL JIHAD OBLITERATES IT” Article 13: “ No solution for Palestinian question except Jihad." [P. 7] Article 11: “Palestine - an Islamic land for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.
The next morning Hamas & Islamic Jihad (both armed & financed by genocidal Iran) began launching more than 100,000 rockets to kill, injure, terrorize, traumatise & shell-shock Israeli men, women, children, toddlers & pets. 30 seconds to seek refuge & duck for life.
…Remember, Morality is color blind
It’s literally not
This is the conversation that is needed across all boards…Loved it …proper,appropriate,full of soul.❤
You sound quite craven.
Another American or Pakistani illiterate in Islam? or someone who thinks Islam isn't modern enough? Majid Nawaz has been a black sheep of the Muslims.
Majid Nawaz isn't the best person to speak up for Muslims and Islam.
he is a tool and by defination is fascist, liberal and anti-islamic moron.
He kept going against Islam and Muslim to enrich himself while sitting in night clubs and using foul langauge while publically sexualizing his own wife.
His basic morals and values are totally messed up; his institution failed and stopped when funding stopped.
now knowing him and his institution that he has built, he will shake hands with zionist to sell Islam and Muslims again to enrich himself.
The dude doesn't even speak arabic. he is pakistani moron who has no basic ground in fiqh sciences and Islamic foundational sciences.
Totally agree with you, brilliant conversation.
“Israel didn’t exist before 1948” , really ? Who was King Saul ? Who was King David ? Sorry there is no “West Bank” it’s called Judea ( the land of the Jew ).
Jordan , God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac NOT the child of some Egyptian whore slave (Ishmael ) , salvation is of the Jews . Palestine comes from the word Philistine , they don’t exist anymore.
There will be peace when the Arab loves their children more than they hate the Jews
Thank you to both for this real true honest Debate between two real Human being… wether they agree or not, being able to exchange respectfully and bring a dialogue to this very difficult subject is a start at least… all my respect gentlemen 🙏🏼 as a Muslim, that gives me hope for next generations .
As a Christian I am with you Sam - it was wonderful to listen to them both - strong representation of good towards humanity
I dont know where i am but i believe its the same god, but we have an islamic, christian or jewish practice of our god. I see value in all of them. And surely where they all agree, that must be the most important truth for the most peoples. Thank you gentlemen 🙏
@Bernards Better than murder over conflicting belief systems.
I have one important contribution to make at the point of agreement between them about the UN2030 Sustainable Development Goals.
It is this. Governments and pharma have agreed business terms to acquire sufficient doses of mRNA-based vaccines to inject every citizen ten (10) times over.
Now, mRNA-based products force the cells of our body to express non-self proteins. Axiomatically, this will induce autoimmune attack upon whatever cell & tissue expresses the encoded protein.
You do that 10 times over. What do you think might happen?
Yes, I think that, too. Yet that’s our future.
Maajid, the kind of kid who makes a 20 minutes presentation for a 5 minutes assignment.
I think that the level of verbal intelligence of both participants is simply outstanding
Yes I can’t articulate my self on that level but i enjoy listening
I'm happy Maajid mentioned Sufism and Ibn Arabi. I genuinely believe Dr. Peterson should dive more into Sufism generally and Ibn Arabi's philosophy specifically.
A stimulating conversation between two very smart and eloquent people.
With everything happening now, it would be great to bring him back.
Sir Jordan Peterson is a rare rare gem who changed countless lives for better.
❤️❤️
He is what most of us alive is. You got to think about the rest of the world. All the crazies are a very small part of the western society
could you imagine that far leftist woke King Charles knighting Jordan Peterson? He's far too busy destroying his own country to worry about recognizing exceptional people in the Commonwealth.
"Every point on a sphere is the centre of the sphere, and yet, still a point" - Maajid, on collective individuals 🔥
Thank you to both men for this incredible discussion. Each man presented their points so eloquently
They graciously accepted ideas and where there was disagreement, it was explained so beautifully and humbly. I long for these discussions and am weary of the division that keeps everyone ignorant of the truth . This podcast is a treasure to behold.
Under the illusion of freedom 👏👏👏 yes the veil has been removed 💯
I felt humbled by this interview. It made me realize that I need to do a much better job of giving people an audience to help me understand their point of view. I know I dismiss people too easily when I don’t share their fundamental beliefs. It’s really about showing love, patience, respect and giving the gift of time to those who want to share their story. “Freely you have received, freely give”.
Beautifully Said.
The most beautiful part is how they start off with all the similarities, which creates an immediate bond of respect. Among them and also with me as a viewer. Really eye opening
Very well said. So grateful for this eye and heart opening conversation. Respect for both Jordan Peterson and Maajid Nawaz for their profound knowledge and underdranding things as they are.
No, it's not about giving 'love'.
Don't link it with a fleeting and fickle emotion such as love, because the minute you no longer have love, or the minute you actually feel hate, you'll no longer do it.
It's about having a fundamental and genuine interest in the TRUTH.
Once you have that, you'll need patience and respect.
If you have a genuine interest in the truth, you'll want to engage with people instead of dismissing them, because you're actively seeking the truth. And hearing other people's views and opposite views is one of the best and most efficient ways to arrive at truths.
If you engage with people with opposite views, you'll need patience and respect in order to hold a proper conversation, WITHOUT letting your emotions take control. Patience and respect will act as a deterrent to the rampart emotions that may arise from a heated debate / conversation.
And throughout the conversation, your genuine interest in the truth, will be the driving force that allows you to navigate it.
You dirtbags have one thing in common, an Envy of Islam and that's what brings you all together.
It’s good to hear two great voices so very eloquently describe and voice opposition to the misguided path that we are being set upon. Thank you both!
There is a lot of 'stage setting' by Maajid and when he eventually gets to his points, he sound like any old deranged Islamic supremist.
I grew up with parents that are Armenian and Jewish. They represent the unity of 2 religion so coming together that also share a common tragedy. I lived in Israel, I had moderate friends from all religions, now by marriage I am Hindu. It is possible for some people to get along but when a certain group of the global population remains hateful in their hearts and have a strong belief that they have a Divine right to kill and exterminate another because they are different. This is what we must continue to work and fight against. This theological racism is what must be defeated
Very good day to you Mr.Peterson. Nothing but love & regards from my side.
Avid follower & student of your works Sir.
I compliment and extend my regards to you for everytime sincerely trying to comprehend both sides of the discussion. Especailly the way you tread around mulim beliefs trying your best not to step over anyones feelings and or beliefs in the process of discussing matters that are sensitive and highly important. So i wish for your knowlege on all matters of importance to grow towards the ideas what would end up being correct and part of solutions to things the world have still have not found answers to.
My salam Mr. Majid aswell,
i also appreciate your way of trying to express the degree of truth that your belief and views hold, and i certainly appreciate your willingness to also be a voice of reason in times where states and governments are least pushed about such avenues to the problems in the world.
I wish intelligent and honest people like yourselves prosper in thier good intent & endeavours to speak for voices that arent heard, for the assistance in the comprehension of people who dont understand the realities of the world around them and for the helping and enlightening of the ignorant members of society.
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Listened to him every Sunday on LBC. Thank you!
Is it good?
@@adnankazim88 they sacked him
I would like to see a conversation in rebuttal to Netanyahu. This is a very broad conversation and doesn't share the same pinpointed focus that Netanyahu displayed in your previous conversation.
Maajid was amazing in this. He’s really grown as a thinker over the years
He was the puppet of Harris and now he's a puppet of the Imams.
Did you see his wife. How did a guy like him get such a gorgeous girl.
He's a pseudo intellectual who uses lots of words to say absolutely nothing.
As an Englishwoman I will travel a long way to hear what Maajid Nawaz has to say. He is one of my go to voices for intelligent reasoned discussions.
I loved this entire conversation. I'm a Lebanese Christian, and I've seen the other end of exclusionary language that's used here in Lebanon where Israel is considered the enemy that needs to be exterminated in order for Palestinians to reclaim their land. Very well done by Nawaz who considering his background has never once mentioned any retaliation against the Jews and in fact has defended them during anti-Semitic waves. He is also dead-on about there being people on both sides who benefit from the continuation of the conflict, one of them being Hezbollah which uses it to create fear among his followers and maintain a grip on the Lebanese government.
As for the topic of language and its lost context, I think this idea interestingly enough isn't a strange one to artists. An artist knows this diminishing effect of the destructive and analysing brain and avoids it as much as possible. Lots of painters refuse to post their renditions online, even for whatever viewing price, because not experiencing them in person is meaningless and removes the context of it. This is also similar to those who cannot stand using digital cameras and instead use the old Polaroids and like to feel the image in their hands after they've taken it.
It's applicable to music as well, where hearing a song through earphones or the phone speaker loses so much of the full extent of musical information that you can hear in headphones or high-fidelity sound systems.
I wish there were contributors who worked on reviving the lost meanings of the text in the same way that Nawaz did here. Because not only have we lost the context of Arabic, we've nearly stopped using it altogether.
Listened to Brigitte Gabriel. Harrowing origin story. Wish you all the best.
@@jsbrads1 Hold up, I've never heard of her before and looking her up now she seems a bit extremist. Sure she had it tough growing up in the Lebanese civil war, who hasn't? But that's no excuse for her current views.
To be clear I am not insinuating any anti-muslim narrative in my comment above. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that does not represent any comprehensive subset of muslims, but rather uses tactics of propagandistic fearmongering to force muslims in lebanon into siding with them and keep them in political power.
@@schizophrenicenthusiast which views of hers don’t you like?
@@jsbrads1 almost everything as 99.9% of Lebanese people for good reasons. She talks in a form that makes her look insightful and intellectual but does t have much substance. It’s all fluff.
This beef isn’t about Christians vs Jews it’s about Muslims vs Jews
The fact that people write such coherent and well-composed comments on every one of JBP's TH-cam videos gives me some small hope for humanity yet.
It started about the Abraham Accords, where both parties clearly took opposing sides. However, they deviated from this topic, delving into philosophical discussions on matters where they are in agreement
A Respectful & intellectual conversation. I love that Jordan provides a platform for open discussion 👍🏻
Now that’s what I call a conversation! 2 very prominent highly qualified « influencers » doing a great effort for humanity. Let’s spread this!!
No conversation, one said JudoChristian west, other said JudoChrisrianIslamic west. one said Abrah acord is inclusive, other said exclusive. Everyone said his point without real engegement.
The “solution” to conflict in the Middle East is easy…temporary peace will come for a little while from a man pretending to be both the muslim and jewish messiah once Christians disappear, then more war will follow, then Jesus will appear and people will finally realize He is God. Otherwise, peace cannot happen in the Middle East…ever.
@@Daniel2020Dj why do you think a good conversation needs to imply a real engagement?
@@christophenevejan4782 The word “conversation” derives from two Latin roots; namely com meaning “together” and versare meaning “to turn.” Hence it literally means “turning together” - perhaps a daily life understanding of structural coupling.
You sound craven!
Your podcast with Netanyahu was and still is unanswered for! And I (like many others like me) in my trust, admiration, and respect for you, believe that you will address it properly by actually addressing it not just naming a podcast as a response to it while conversing about Davos, schwab and his minions ; those are devils with devilish plans, we know. But how your interview, Dr Peterson, went with Netanyahu is a specific issue of itself that needs rectifying with specificity not through this podcast.
Agreed. Very disappointing interview as none of the lies and Zionist Supremacist Propaganda he allowed Satan Netanyahu to push were challenged. Not sure why Majid Nawaz discussed philosophy and Convid-19 instead of the lies propagated by Peterson
Good point but I think JP is smart enough to not upset netandshithu. deep down in sure he his smart enough to understand and feel the evil that man eminates.
Then why do the interview in the first place if not to do it the right way?
@@cyxsI I think JP's way was his own personal approach ie curiosity and peace promoting, the editing and title of this video was probably done by the media team not him personally.
I didn't even watch the zzzzzzyahu interview because the mere sight of him makes me sick, anything he's got to say I've heard it before, just like a tape recorder.
I get your respect for him, we share in that. But being lebanese and knowing the struggle and inhumane injustice inflicted on the Palestinians, i expected the Jordan Peterson that doesnt leave one rock unteruned in his quest for thruth - to probe and ask tough questions and use examples and numbers and specific data about the reality the palestinians are living.. not give him free time to justify his twsited version of what is done to Palestine.
The way JP pivoted when aaked who are they
Inclusion - for Jews, Christians and Muslims
Solution - restore the Holy Land
Another fantastic morning, thank you.. speaking to the sacred and to the forgotten is always enlightening. To embrace the challenge of language while embracing the sacred needs to be the first commitment of us all on a daily basis… 🙏
What a wonderful and enlightening conversation. We all need much much more of these.
You sound craven!!!
they said a whole lot of nothing, it was civil that's just about it.. but as for enlightening it was very much surface level.. but that's just my opinion
JP's conversation with BN was very lacking, imho. But despite the name of this video, unfortunately they didn't discuss much on that point :( :(
Another great interview, but Maajid was wrong with his criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel didn't exist before 1947, As Netanyahu spoke about Israel did exist 3500 years ago which goes to what Netanyahu was saying that the Muslim don't recognize. Also with his criticism about the squatting, Netanyahu argued when you invest in the place you occupy you put down roots and are more entwined with the land. As Mark Twain wrote “The further we went the hotter the sun got, and the more rocky and bare, repulsive and dreary the landscape became…There was hardly a tree or a shrub any where. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country”. The statement reflects his general attitude to the ancient land throughout his journey.Exactly what Netanyahu spoke about and so the Jews returned and started to rebuild and offer árabes a better way of life.And the rest of your interview was very absorbing.
Majid is such a smart man. I genuinely feel more intelligent just from listening to these 2. This is why I love Jordan. He interviews real intellectuals with real ideas and a good vision for peace.
MORALITY IS CLOUR BLIND
China Incarcerated 2 million Muslim Uyghurs into hard labour & indoctrination camps. Shaving Muslim men beards. Sterilizing Muslim Uyghur women.Barbaric & demonic ethnic genocide of Muslims…
Peaceful buddhist Tibet invaded by China in 1950 (world’s biggest SETTLEMENT), Chinese SETTLERS reside at Tibetan ancestral & sacred real estate. While the Dalai Lama is forced to hide in India. Nice going… Over 1.2 million out of 6 Tibetans killed, at least 6000 monasteries destroyed & thousands of Tibetans imprisoned.
One million Muslim Syrians butchered in Muslim Syria by Muslim Syrian brethren.
Benevolent, cuddly & super friendly Iran publicly declares intent to annihilate Israel & is weeks away from putting nuclear bombs on a ballistic missile. (they (3000 thus far according to US intelligence).
Iran is hard at work crushing thousands of peaceful demonstrators with live ammunition. Demonstrators seeking an end to draconian religious rules are killed in wholesale quantity.
Turkey invaded Cypress in 1974 (war), Erected a demonic wall to divide Muslims & Christian Cypriots into settlements. (APARTHEID ON STEROIDS!)
Since 1985, butchered 35,000 Independence seeking Kurdish freedom fighters seeking to regain ancestral Kurdistan (ILLEGAL TURKISH SETTLEMENT)
Critical Turkish journalists & countless judges-in jail.
Palestinians are hard at work executing homosexuals & Muslims who converted to Christianity.
Russia bombarded Independence seeking Muslim Chechnya back to the Stone Age. 200,000 Muslim men, Muslim women & Muslim children killed in Grozny in ’93. (ILLEGAL RUSSIAN SETTLEMENT AMONG MANY).
Annexed Crimea & Eastern Georgia & Ukraine by force
Downed a Malaysian Airline (MH 17) passenger jet over Ukraine with Russian sophisticated anti air missiles. 298 killed (mostly Dutch)
The time to return Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, N & S Dakota, Montana & Wyoming SETTLEMENTS to brutalized & genocided indigenous Indians is NOW!!!
The time to return Nevada, California & Texas SETTLEMENTS to theirbrutalized, traumatized, aching, yelping & genocided indigenous MEXICANS is NOW!!!
The time to expose, despise, reject & crush your diabolical & pathological penchant for selective justice, sickening bias, relative morality, antisemitism & intentional disinformation is now!
He mentioned that the Muslim civilization should be included in the Judeo Christian one, which makes no sense whatsoever. How are Christians treated in the Muslim civilization? Very badly.
So much good stuff here. Going to have to watch this one a few times to unpack it all. Thank you Jordan and Maajid for the spectacular, thought provoking conversation!
You sound cowardly
My 81 year old mother has been following you since TVO days she has been totally reeducated. She follows others, but you have changed her life.
Nice to see Jordan's taking notes.
This is one of the best podcast episodes I have ever heard, ever.
I agree. This is such an important conversation.
Accepting yourself just the way you are is something you should only do for a moment. It involves looking at reality, and if we don’t accept the truth about who we are when we take that moment to look, so that we can deal with what’s not right, then we won’t really look. We won’t really see. Seeing the truth, accepting the truth about yourself is the first step to making all the little changes moment to moment, day by day, from year to year, and throughout our lifetimes.
You had me at Danger Mouse, Maajid. I used to watch that as a kid. In all seriousness though, two very wise men having a very informative discussion. We need more of this!
at this point, I am wondering if JP knows about Edward Said. I would really encourage him to read up on him.
Tamerandli
״at this point, I am wondering if JP knows about Edward Said. I would really encourage him to read up on him.״
at this point, I am wondering you know Prof. Bernard Lewis. I would really encourage you to read up on him.
@@YaronZ-fr6fm Haha. Hilarious.
Bernard Lewis, (31 May 1916 - 19 May 2018) was A UK/USA historian specialized in Oriental Studies studies. He was also known as a public intellectual & political commentator. Lewis was the Cleveland E. Dodge Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University. Lewis's expertise was in the history of Islam and the interaction between Islam and the West.
Lewis served as a soldier in the British Army in the Royal Armoured Corps and the Intelligence Corps during the Second World War before being seconded to the Foreign Office. After the war, he returned to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London and was appointed to the new chair in Near and Middle Eastern Studies.
In 2007 Lewis was called "the West's leading interpreter of the Middle East". Others have argued Lewis's approach is essentialist and generalizing to the Muslim world, as well as his tendency to restate hypotheses that were challenged by more recent research. On a political level, Lewis is accused by his detractors with having revived the image of the cultural inferiority of Islam and of emphasizing the dangers of Jihad.
Lewis served as a soldier in the British Army in the Royal Armoured Corps and the Intelligence Corps during the Second World War before being seconded to the Foreign Office. After the war, he returned to the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London and was appointed to the new chair in Near and Middle Eastern Studies.
In 2007 Lewis was called "the West's leading interpreter of the Middle East". Others have argued Lewis's approach is essentialist and generalizing to the Muslim world, as well as his tendency to restate hypotheses that were challenged by more recent research. On a political level, Lewis is accused by his detractors with having revived the image of the cultural inferiority of Islam and of emphasizing the dangers of Jihad.
There was an element of solzenhytzen in Maajid when he spoke about having to explore all the ways he had contributed to the problems he was trying to solve. Beautiful interview 🥰
Solzenhyten! Dictionary!
He (Aleksander)knew who /where a very large amount of the problem was originating from
I really like Maajid. That was a great conversation! As a Christian, I do think we all need each other no matter whether we are Jewish, Islamic, or Christian.
Or atheist
The answers is No. I’m a Christian , You say you a Christian but I can clearly see by your statement that you have not read the Quran and Hadith. The amount of pedophilia, hate against Jews and Christian is unbelievable. Islam is a violent religion if not a religion at all.
@@mogznwaz not really athiests see religion as a danger and want it gone so ofcourse it cant be together with the abrahamic religions(outliers dont matter fwi)
Indeed we do need each other but the capitalist world doesn’t want that.. divide and conquer is where money is made.
And what does Majid represent?
Certainly not Islam
What a lesson.
Thank you Dr. Jordan for bringing such an intellect.
Was wondering what had happened to Maajid, always saw him as a positive voice in the community.
As an Orthodox Israeli Jew, I really enjoyed this conversation. The title had me defensive, but the content was inline with most of my personal beliefs.
Islam=Yeshua +joy of commandments
FINALLY! After all this time. Good job on viewing both parts of the issue and actually setting up the meeting
What a wonderful meeting this was! And no accident that at the end of all the discourse and explanation it is, and always has been, so very simple. We are sacred, and to remain so must remember this, and act in ways to encourage others to be so. Simple, but hard. The whole world is in our way, but only because we have been trying to be separate from it, instead of part of it.
Totally. I too feel this after 53 yrs & connected with what he was saying regarding separation. Its so paradoxingly basic yet complicated to realise we are what we're experiencing, including everything & everyone in it. Hard to wrap your head around due to the illusion of physical reality. Thus faith. Once you understand why treat others the way you would like to be treated is the golden rule you can forgive them for they know not what they do.
Really big Thank You for this. Maajid was terrific at expanding some of the complexity associated with a problem Britain contributed to in 1948, but one that of course goes back - as you discuss here - more than a millennia. I’m one of the (many) insufficiently informed white English Christian males and this conversation I hope can be part of a longer series that dives broad and deep into this precious part of the world (yes, I know, it’s all precious) and the challenges around love, empathy, respect, tolerance, communications (illuminating the world, the role of story and of history being the future, before writing) was terrific.
Maajid is nothing but an opportunist. He was funded by the UK for his Quilliam foundation and after that money dried up, he's seeking popularity amongst the Muslims again. People fall for his use of cleaver words but when you really listen to him over time, you wonder what he actually believes.
Palestinian which were the high majority in that land, were not pushed out by war in 1948. (If they were, it would be sorta acceptable to them.) They were hustled out of their land under pretence of peace and promise of same land. While "allied powers" gave in unethical fashion and still give military might, nuclear power, intellectual property, financial aid to isreal to harm Arabs and others to keep games of politcal check. Its similar and a refined form of British East India company saying, hey we're just trading and are not turning Indians into replacements for slave trade and then took over and plundered them. At least folks who engage in war have the courage and honesty to say it is a war. This trickory of harming victims and then blaming the victims is unjustified. So you can falsely say someone mightier took over and oh it was Isreali land to begin with, when fact is, these are manipulations and lies to say heads I win and tails you lose. Lies cannot be turned into truth. Injustice, cannot be turned into something justifiable. Just becuase its your turn to deal the cards doesnt mean it will stay that way. People will always look back and call a spade a spade.
Well done guys. That was a very interesting conversation. Maajid's wisdom reminded me a teaching I heard once from a rabbi about the loss of original speach - "the holy tongue", and the story of the tower of babel, still going on today.
~Thank you Maajid, important and powerful. Much respect for JBP for continuing great philosophical dialogue. This is what media should present for us, for us all to evolve as a whole.
Lol you and your cowardice lmao.
Who gave the UN the authority to displace people in a nation without their consent following WWII?
This is a serious question.
I listened to it again and still say these big words mean nothing when you can see the annexation of Palestine and Golan heights as something tolerable
Maajids last Rogan appearance is one of the most important episodes of JRE. That and the latest James Lindsay episode.
Check those out if you haven't yet.
James Lindsay having a convo with Jordan would be amazing.
Yes the JRE episode with Maajid is CLASSIC
What about? Can you share please?
I have no idea who they are.
Genuine question, thank you.
James Lindsay is a dork
@@W.Shakespeare How so?
Great interview. Great, great interview. Never knew Maajid before. Now I’ll never forget him. A true representation that pure religion is love, and a stellar example of building inter faith dialogue, and bridges instead of fences. Or offences. Thank you Jordan for inviting him.
12:47 “……….cries out in pain as he strikes you”
Maajid Nawaz! Much respect from a Jewish brother. You are courageous!
"I'm not getting stuck on semantics" after an
endless lecture on words as spells... :D :D :D