Hogwarts Expullsion + Rejecting A Hogwarts Acceptance Letter Explained
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That intro thooooooo
I thought I was receiving a howler 🤣
@@jameswest981 😂
thought it was Dean for a second
@@vivianwallwood same
What about it?
Your keeping Harry Potter alive
This year is the 10th anniversary of Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows 🤗
Jeez I feel old. I remember seeing it the theater and then getting pizza with my parents. Wow 10 years...
@The Red Gamer and Animal lover. yeah I was not even born at that time actually
@@dr.johnson5189 I started school that year
u mean the 14th anniversary. since the book came out in 2007.
@@TheIsemgrim but the movie came out in 2011
Don't forget Malfoy talking about his father wanting him to go to Durmstrang, but his mother didn't want him so far from home. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others who felt the same and might want to send their children to another school.
You also never addressed the issue of a magical parent who may have been exceptional and would rather teach their children at home and who started earlier than 11 considering that the Ministry could not discern who is doing magic in a Wizard home. They would not want their child going to Hogwarts with the abilities of a 3rd or 4th year. The staff would become aware of the situation pretty quickly, not to mention the child would be bored, already knowing how to perform the magic. Remember Sirius saying that Snape in first year already knew more curses than many 7th years.
@@grizal5669 Did you read The Half Blood Prince? It isn't in any of the movies, but Dumbledore told Harry that the Ministry could not tell who was doing magic in a wizarding home and depended on the parents to enforce the law. So a parent could teach their children as early as they wanted to. Either with a spare wand or loaning the child their own.
Snape's mom would have taught him to read and write, plus many other things. So she, being a Slytherin very well may have taught Severus much when his father wasn't around.
@@grizal5669 You are of correct in what you say mostly, but I am not talking about honest parents. I am just saying hypothetically a parent can easily start teaching their children early and tell them, if going to Hogwarts, to not mention that they've been learning how to do magic since nine or ten for instance to give their children a leg up so to speak.
In Book One, remember the kids that boasted about flying on their brooms? That sounds pretty close to breaking the secrecy rules, but it seemed to be a common practice. Especially like at the World Cup with little toddlers flying around on toy brooms. LOL I thought that was a funny mind picture.
Do not forget grandparents as well. My grandma saw to it that my siblings and I could read and print with basic arithmetic before we went to kindergarten. I remember those one hour sessions to this day. Never more than an hour, but after breakfast was reading time. She made it fun and with treats now and then. She gave me a love for reading I have to this day.
She passed away in 1986 less than a year after my grandfather died, she was 88. I took her to live with me after granddad died. She protested that she was fine, but secretly she loved living with us and my children.
i have a personal headcanon that alot of the pureblood familys just let their childeren practice magic during vacation breaks so that they get higher grades in school cause lets be honest the only reason you aren't allowed to do magic outside school is that muggles might see it
@@petsoverpeople8980 Exactly.
How isn't there somebody that was prevented to go to wizarding school but was able to teach her/himself and achieve great levels in wandless magic?
Wands are a European invention. Most other wizarding cultures don't use them.
@@WatchThatFirstStep the Americans did for sure
@@WatchThatFirstStep I wonder how China and Japan could use magic. Purely wand less ?
Chuck L I think it’s only Africa that don’t use wands. They use their fingers to focus their spells.
@@katakurifan5213 I would assume that wizards from Japan or China would use wholly different magic. Akin to Onmyodo and likely using Ofuda. For SOME reason african wizards don't use wands, which leads me to believe that they suck at magic because they have no proper focus. Otherwise the whole Goblins not getting to use wands and breaking of a wand to make people powerless would be super pointless. Meaning, all of the lore points to wandless magic being less potent than proper, wandusing magic, except for them wanting to make it a european invention years and years after the fact.
What would happen if a muggle born magical child whos parents denied attendance showed magical usage as an adult/ is there a school for educating adult wizards/witches equivalent to a Hogwarts education?
"There was only one thing on it apart from his half completely form: a large, glossy, purple envelope with sliver lettering on the front. With a quick glance at the door to check that Flich wasn't on his way back, Harry picked up the envelope and read:
KWIKSPELL
A Correspondence Course in Beginners Magic
Intrigued, Harry flicked the envelope open and pulled out the sheaf of parchment inside. More curly sliver writing on the front of the page said:
Feel out of step in the world of modern magic? Find yourself making excuses not to perform simple spells? Ever been taunted for your woeful wandwork?
There is an answer!
Kwikspell is an all-new, fail-safe, quick-resulted, easy-learn course. Hundreds of witches and wizards have benefited from the Kwikspell method!"
- Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, chapter eight (pages 126 to 127)
Maybe they use this? It teaches you everything, even how to hold a wand properly (same chapter, page 128). Of course it wouldn't work for Flich, but adult muggle-borns who can do magic could learn from this course. Hope this helps!
I thought it was so important for wizards to go to school in the first place because if they weren't trained or tried to ignore their magic it could release dangerously at emotionally stressful times. That said isn't it pretty dangerous to tell somebody "Forget you were ever a wizard because you're expelled." Also from the books and movies the "Trace" can't be left on after 17 otherwise they would of left it on Harry to track him.
J.K. Rowling doesn’t think a lot of things through.
Maybe our parents rejected our letter and we will never know, because they erased our memory about it.... Let that sink in for a moment.
Now goodnight sleeping ;)
I KNEW MY PARENTS WERE HOLDING ME BACK ON MY PATH TO GREATNESS!
My mum would definitely reject it 😂
How am I not an obscurus yet?
i think about that on a daily basis
I think about it daily yknow.. 😭😭😭. MY MOM DID REJECTED MY HOGWARTS LETTER.. I mean... She hates it when I talk about any HP theory.. 😭😭
Is there any magical hope for a squib?
Harry once found some of Argus Filch's mail, and one was magic lessons for squibs, so I'm curious if extreme dedication could allow a squib to access a basic level of magic. Filch does seem to be able to appear within seconds of his cat spotting someone, and he also seems to be able to talk to the cat
I don't think so, isn't it the case that the magical gene is either active or not?
Are you sure it was a book for squibs? I seem to remember it being a book for beginner wizards. But I might be wrong, I'm just going on the feeling that I would have remembered if the book was for squibs because that would actually be pretty interesting. Either there is hope for squibs or someone just wanted to earn some money by giving squibs hope. Pretty cruel if that's the case xD
@@thegravityman1 I remember it being for squibs and thinking it was essentially a scam. I mean if your a squib, you would be desperate to be able to do magic so people could easily take advantage of that to make money.
I believe Harry actually asked Dumbledore about that and he said it was sadly not possible for squibs to learn magic. I think the courses filch ordered were for those who under perform, kind of like how Neville was in his youth. His family thought he might not be magical ENOUGH for hogwarts. Not that he was a squib. He had a little magic but not enough to be admitted until he got scared. So those courses are for people with a little magic to try and flex and do more.
Squibs actually have a bit of a connection to magical things since they're not 100% muggle, so having deeper relationships with magical creatures (Mrs Norris wasn't a normal cat) and being able to see the moving pictures are some things squibs differ from pure muggles
(Got all this from a HP youtuber who only uses Canon content)
Draco did say that his father originally wanted him to go to Durmstrang because it was a school that had dark magic involved as well as an ex Death Eater as headmaster, but his mother was concerned for his safety so he was sent to Hogwarts
In the end it didn't matter he was in danger anyways
Not to mention that Bulgaria was still part of The Soviet Union when Lucius Malfoy and Narcissa Black Malfoy were Hogwarts Students, and Narcissa was afraid they would never see their son Draco again had Malfoy actually sent Draco to Durmstrang.
In addition, Malfoy might have found himself "Exiled to the Couch" for sending Draco to Durmstrang.
What if Hogwarts or the Ministry of Magic come across a muggleborn witch/wizard who not only rejected the acceptance, but also said that they were already learning magic from a school they never heard of?
What if the muggleborn's parents showed that they also could do magic, even though they were never in their records?
It's impossible if they live in the UK, because Hogwarts' admission system detects any source of childhood magic and enters them into the Book of Admission with the Quill of Acceptance, while it would be impossible for "muggles" to exist due to the same method
It's kind of bullshit that if you get expelled your wand gets snapped, like dude that's personal property
Kind of curious, what about students that flat out reject their Hogwarts acceptance letter due to bullying or mistreatment?
I’d imagine they are left on their own to learn shit. The puzzling thing though is children can’t use magic outside of school so if a person doesn’t go to school what do they do? Are they given special permission to use it so they can learn on their own or can they just not use magic until they are 17?
What happens if your parents say no. Then when you grow up you want to learn of your own choice?? Is there an adult magical night school of sorts??
JK Rowling doesn't think that far ahead...
Maybe Quickspell (the agency that Filch writes to to learn basic magic) offers adult GED classes?
I've always wanted to know what happened if you rejected your letter so I'm really happy this video was made!
What if the muggle parents reject their child going to Hogwarts, and the representative alters the parents memories so that they think their magical child won a scholarship to a fancy boarding school?
I dont think they would fancy what ammounts to kidnapping, allthough i wonder if there is a program of education for cases like this, just after the children came of age. obviously there are no adults at hogwarts, but it doesnt seem too hard to immagine some form of adult education in the wizarding world.
@@Thundermikeee I'm sure there are ways for graduates to continue learning magic by traveling the world
@@katakurifan5213 i was more thinking about children that didn't attend a magical school, because of their parents, that as adults would have an option to learn magic
That’s true. Wouldn’t a magic child still need to learn how to control their own magic so as to avoid accidents like with Harry at the zoo?
They really HAVE to go, because if they don’t they’ll turn into a obscurus.
Something I've always wondered. I have a learning disability. Reading is very difficult for me, and I rely heavily on spell check for writing. Would a child like me just be rejected as a student? Or would they make accomodations? And what if they had other disabilities like vision, hearing, or couldn't walk. The school isn't exactly handicap accessible.
Most problems can be fixed by the healers at St. Mungo hospital for magical maladies.
Spell checking quill can be found att the Weaslys
Make a video on "Top 10 bravest characters"
Yeah that would be great
Then do 10 most feared
Agreed
1. Snape
I always wondered why when they found out that Hagrid didn’t open the Chamber Of Secrets he didn’t get a new wand.
He did. Then he took remedial classes and went on to teach Care of Magical Creatures.
@@GJMEGA1 he did not, that's why he was still using his umbrella to put out the fire at his house in Half Blood Prince.
@@cjg8763 That may be so, but Hagrid HAD to get a new wand because officially his old one was destroyed and if he wanted to do magic openly then he needed a new one.
@@GJMEGA1 and in which book and chapter is Hagrid getting a new wand mentioned? Why would he still be using his umbrella if he had a proper wand?
@@cjg8763 I'm guessing somewhere early on in Prisoner of Azkaban. As for the umbrella thing? Two options I can think of, the first is that he just got used to it over the last forty-odd years and stuck his new one in the umbrella. The second option is that Rowling forgot.
I’ve been wondering this for a while. Thanks!
If muggles refused because of fear it could be very dangerous if the child grows stronger. They could become obscuri! And die. If not it’s even more dangerous. After the parents have had their memories modified, the child should be under wizard foster parents. It’s really hard having to that so late in childhood
Love your content man 👍🏿👍🏿
Could you do a video on everything that’s possibly in the restricted section of the library at Hogwarts?
Hi Dean. great video..
What about one.. what would happen if Voldermont was raised by his father and grandparents after his mother died.
Omg yassssss
Omgggg what a good question
These videos are amazing
It's a bit stupid that a kid could trip, shatter their glasses, use Reparo, and get expelled. Especially if they're from a Wizarding home
As long as its done around other wizzards there is no way for the ministry to know who performed the charm. Harry only got in problems because there were no other wizards around. For wizards families the rule is pretty much unsupervised, the ministry just trusts the parents to enforce it.
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@@sigh.not.again. You said Here in Time. So I knew no way Anyone is on Time unless they have Time Machine
You're not immediately expelled for underage magic. You're given a warnung first. At least, harry did in the chamber of secrets book
Finally caught you early Dean! 🖤
Personally I think there was a religious family in the Harry Potter Universe they will probably reject their Hogwarts acceptance letter due to the belief
My parents would have rejected the hell out of my letter 😭
I could see that with very insular communities- being afraid of their children who would have magical abilities
I actually wanted to see someone who receive a Hogwarts Acceptance letter, and, due to their religious beliefs, wrote back a letter of conscientious objection, explaining why they refuse to go to Hogwarts. If they were told about Obscurials, they would reply that they will arrange their death soon, so that the 'demon within' will not propagate to their descendants.
Do you think an expelled student can go to another school, say if a student is expelled for practicing dark arts, can he/she be admitted to Durmstrang or any other magical school
Probably as long as that school is governed by a different country
Yes, im pretty sure There are some "less reputable magical institutions" that accept anyone and teach only dark magic. if HP was real it would be our country basicaly
Couldn’t a letter be rejected because they are sending their child to a different school?
Thanks for sharing!
Although I'm an overall fan, I still feel Harry should have got at least suspended or maybe even expelled for his use of 'secumsempra' spell on Draco.
Well he didn’t know what it did and dumbledore wouldn’t accept that Harry did it on purpose
@@nickyboy9317 It doesn’t matter,. He was involved in a fight with another student that he himself started and used a deadly spell. You should never use a spell in which you don’t know the effects. The only reason he wasn’t expelled was because Snape would have to admit that he was the creator of the spell.
This was an informative video as I learned some new things that I didn’t know before.
just wondering ... if non-magical parents turned down the acceptance letter for their child and the child later found out about their abilities (can't imagine how this would not happen in some way, at some point) then what options would be open to that person to make the choice for themselves when they reach the age of consent... There must be some option beyond an 18-y-o being put in a class with 11-y-o students.
Can you make sequels to some of your what if’s?
Really digging the new intro and logo!
Thank you for your time and opinion.
If I were a muggleborn parent, I would want to know about HWSoW&W and other schools before accepting the first, it would be as important as chosing an expensive university, yacht, vehicle, or house.
I imagine Ilvermorny has a harder time getting muggle born kids in certain areas to school than Hogwarts does...
I can see why Hermione said that expulsion is is worse than death.
I love this Channel
But do you have to go to hogwarts (or other school) to be allowed to have a wand. Is "homeschooling" illegal in the Wizarding community?
Nice topic, thanks
Thank You Folklore Finally You've have made about explaining Expelled and Rejection. I've seen the Video it was Awesome 😁 From Future B.R
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But in the chamber of secrets Harry used a "levitation charm" or at least the ministry thought he did and he was let off with a warning.
I remember in the Philosphers Stone, Hagrid said to Uncle Vernon (in reference to Harry going to Hogwarts) “If he wants to go a great muggle like you won’t stop him.”
Which make me think that the child has a large influence or may even be the one to make the final ruling
Thank you for the vid! Was curious if someone reject a Hogwarts accepting letter!
How d o you sign up for other wizard inn schools I need answers
Gr8 video as usual 👌....I have a question. Was Greyback a wizard turned werewolf or was he a muggle turned werewolf( I'm thinking he was a wizard) ? If wizard, did he go to and/or finish his schooling at Hogwarts ?
Then there is the Durlsie, where they clearly rejected the letter but it keep being sent to Harry until they sent Hagrid to personally give it to Harry.
Could you do a video about how magical parents choose a magical school for their child (ren) to begin with? Is it on the birth certificate when they are born?
This is a pretty interesting topic
Could you maybe do a video on the magical trace and if it is possible to remove it before the age of 17? Loved this video btw, very informative
Sooo if later on as an adult the child wants to learn magic can they get something like a wizards GED
I have never been this early before!
Oh happy day!
Amazing
is there any information that a wizard may have more than one wand ? can you make explained video for that ?
On your next video can you do or figure out who sent aunt petunia that howler saying remember my last I think it was snape
It’s better to say crabbe got expelled in the movies but died in the book
We could see what happens when a muggleborn wizard's family rejects their Ilvermony letter and the same thing could happen in Great Britain. They could have their magic bound up and their memories of the wizarding world as well as any accidental magic they did erased. Jacob could be such a wizard. Queenie knew this secret about Jacob and Dumbledore found out about it. Queenie probably started to unbind his magic but was unable to complete the unbinding.
What about obscuri? If a muggleborn child receive no schooling, and by that no control over own magic, it can likely turn into obscuri 🌑. Any idea how Ministry is preventing that
But I thought the trace automatically breaks at 17 ? Didn't Ron explain that in the deathly hallows
What about Newt Scamander?
He got expelled because he took the blame for setting a Jarvary loose. He didn't do anything, but got expelled.
Suggestion: How about an explanation to the death eater ranks surely they all have different ranks like voldy's inner circle seems to be the highest or something if you already did this it's fine but it would be interesting to know if the death eaters have more ranks or just dont
Love the videos, but there’s just one issue... The sound is fine in the intro and the outro parts, but in the actual subject of the video your voice is not much more than a whisper (so you basically have to listen with earphones at max volume only to literally shit yourself when an advertisement blasts your brain out like an exceptionally powerful explosion by Seamus Finnigan) It would be awesome if the volume of your voice was just a tad bit louder so it matches the rest of the video
I’ve also often wondered like with the case of Hagrid. What if a student is wrongly expelled? Is there any, any chance for them to still receive a magical education if it is found out that they were wrongly expelled? Obviously this didn’t happen with Hagrid but, is there any chance for them?
For muggle horns I think a agent takes the kid and has to modify there parents memory if the parents refuse
The Wizarding World can certainly be wondrous, but it also fosters vile beliefs and attitudes of all kinds of supremacy. The Muggle world shuns that ideology for the most part. I can see staying out of it in some respects.
Video idea - which metalsmith/blacksmith actually made slytherin`s locket.
The lip-sync of the howler though is just Mwha!
The Mwha is me kissing the air.
Wasn't Grindelwald expelled from Durmstrang? (Sp?)
Didn't isolt family say no when she got her letter??
You know you could have added the congratulations letter in this video to but this one is cool too
One thing to keep in mind is that Expulsion is subjective to a degree. Harry and Ron could have been expelled for stealing the flying car. And the next question would be if Molly would've been allowed to home school Ron?
Well I mean if you’re the children of two noble families, you can get away with just about anything.
2 for one deals how do I get more of these
But if they are given permission to return how can they with their wand gone?
Are there any Witchcraft and Wizardry schools in the British isles other than Hogwarts? Are they any Universities of Witchcraft and Wizardry after they finish school? 🤔
How did newt learn magic after he was expelled?
I've often wondered what would have happened if dudley would have been magical. It's not beyond the realm of possibility since petunias sister was a witch. Would they have rejected it or tried to put him in competition with Harry or would they have eventually changed towards Harry
I would think, considering the history of the tension between muggles and witches, the muggle parents would not have a say if their child would go to Hogwarts or not. Now, don’t get me wrong, they are the parents of the child and they should have a say in the decisions of their child. However, in this case, there has to be an exception. The child, if not magically trained, is not only a danger to other muggles, but to the entire Wizarding World as well. As their untrained magic could potentially expose the magical world. Also, muggles, since they are not magically-gifted, and therefore do not have the education to teach their magically-gifted child, they cannot be trusted with homeschooling their child.
My suggestion in dealing with this is going to be a little harsh, but hear me out. If the muggle parents absolutely refuse to let their child train their magical powers so that they could be in more control of them, the child should be taken out of the house and the Ministry should have their parents’ memories erased of their child’s existence. And the child should be allowed to live in some sort of Hogwarts house for orphan witches and wizards. I know it’s pretty harsh, but it benefits everybody in the long-run. The muggles they could interact with are safe, the parents don’t have to deal with the burden they feel of having a gifted child, and the Wizarding World is safe from exposure.
Now, once the child turns 17, and graduated from Hogwarts, they could, if they wish, reunite with their parents and the Ministry could give their memories of the child’s existence back, but keep out the memories of the child having magical abilities.
Is this fact or speculation? Because I know some (if not all) is based on fact but some things (like the trace being on a muggle born for life) seems like something never been touched on
All muggle parents should agree for not learning to control there powers could endanger there lives
I would like to know if Hagrid ever went into the girl's bathroom and made amends with Myrtle's ghost... Hmmm
That’s a good question...I kind of doubt it because Hagrid is usually outdoors, in his hut, or in Hogsmeade. I don’t remember him being inside the castle a whole lot, except for special occasions.
why would Hagrid go make amends with Myrtle? He didn't kill anyone.
@@emerald0129 While that is true, does she know that? Even if he didn't kill her, wouldn't it just be nice for him to go see her?
Hogwarts is in UK not in Australia. I’m only interested in Australian School Of Witchcraft & Wizardry. When will they add ASOWW?
Could you do a video on. If Tom riddle had a rival just as good as him, while growing up.
What about a muggleborn child whose parents wouldn’t permit them to learn magic, at home or at a school? wouldn’t that just be a cause for an obscuros to develop? I believe this is what happened in Magical beasts (#1) the muggle KNEW about magic and was warning everyone of the danger of it...
What about Parents who are willing to sent their child to a different school of magic (such as Ilvermony, Bauxbaton, or Durmstrang). I remember in the books that Malfoy's mother was considering that so it is possible that it can happen.
Would the muggleborn get in trouble if they didn't know they had powers?
Isn't the trace just for wands?
What kind of school do magical kids go to before hogwartz?
What if someone was so terrible with magic that they kept accidentally causing harm to others whenever they try and cast a spell? How long would they be allowed to stay at Hogwarts if then were so bad at it?
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I always thought of a child’s parents did reject a letter to a school that the child would repress their magic and wouldn’t that turn into obscurus?
What happens if someone never receives a letter, because they weren't accepted in the first place? Will they go on with life and learn magic by themselves? That's what I want to know
Considering Hogwarts safety records i completely understand parents who don't want to send their child there.....
What if a student with lypocanthropy got expelled?
Video idea: What if Snape heard the full prophecy and told Voldemort?
(I know I have commented this on one of his other vids, but I really wanna see this)
5:30 oh yeah the headmistress of Illvermorny forgot her name
could you reject Hogwarts acceptance and goto a different magical school?