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Yes, thanks. And non-stop meditative being, is ideal. Meditative sessions, fxp. Vipassana, helps to be meditative permanently. Both are good, a constantly conscious, "meditative" being is ideal.Yes, it is not “meditate and go back to normal life. It is a nonstop meditative being. 🙂💙🙏
It seems that there is an indifference to sitting, neither for nor against it. It seems we ought to be careful that a sitting practice (which can be undertaken for multiple other good reasons) doesn't create a distraction from the continuity of self-investigation called for in the times we aren't sitting. Is that catching the point of the video?
1:37 How can that ever be done? The mind can do only one thing at a time. When you do some work with your mind , you can think about that work only. You cannot do swaroopa smarana at that time. Are you personally doing two works at the same time with the mind? It is impossible. Sastras also say the same thing. What is the end result of doing such unbroken Swaroopa smarana? Have you personally achieved that result? When I hear your talk, I can hear what you say; but I cannot do svaroopa smarana at that time.Physical works can be done with svaroopa smarana, but mental works cannot be done with svaroopa smarana.
From what I gather from my limited knowledge is that what he was saying here sounded a lot like zen in the sense that you get to a point in which you can be in that meditative "sitting-state" (mindfulness?) if you will, yet still do other activities.
@muralidharankv169 Doesn't mean there can't be overlap in similar teachings. "Take what is useful, discard what isn't." In my opinion, one shouldn't cling too hard to one teacher or one teaching. In fact, I don't think one should cling too hard to anything or any idea in this life. Learn from wherever and whomever you can learn from. There are many great teachers from all over, from various schools of thought. Empty the cup.
My understanding from Bhagavan's teachings - I am definitely not there to say this from my experience - is that, the body and mind have come here for a purpose and they will do what they have come to do. So if you direct your attention to the Self, activities will continue nevertheless. For example, counting money involves so many physical and mental processes - handling the money one by one without dropping, counting each note as it passes from one hand to another and finally doing either a running or final total. But an experienced person can do all this while all the time thinking about that day's cricket match. Similarly while other activities go on, the mind can instead stay on the self. Swami Yatiswarananda of Ramakrishna mission calls this "training the mind such that one sixteenth of it is always on God"
Awareness: perceiving the world without generating any thoughts (the real form of meditation). Therefore, there is no Effort, no choice and no discrimination (all of these require generation of thoughts). In Total Attention, no thoughts are generated (ie, you cannot be totally attentive while you are thinking about something). If you are working on something with total attention, you are MEDITATING. Mindfulness: Sustaining some thoughts (about some object in the mind or a concept) in the present moment. This object or concept of the mind in mindfulness is an image in the conscious filed; these thoughts are generated from past memories stored in the brain. So, it really is not the 'Present moment.' Sustaining thoughts require effort, which requires energy and complex thought generation. This method does not work in the way they are told it does. Neither does meditation. Meditation: Exercising some discipline to focus on an object internally or externally. Discipline involves generation of thoughts, focusing on an object involves generation of thoughts. So, the mind is not really calm in many ways. Meditation and mindfulness have similarities. The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind is NOT the degree of concentration or focusing. Here complex thoughts are required. Tense mind. The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind IS the degree of Awareness (total attention). Here thoughts are not generated. Calm mind.
IT is all about generating or not generating certain types of thoughts throughout the day. Meditation (spirituality) is not meant for only 30 minutes a day in a quiet place. Meditation (spirituality) is constant. Spirituality is all about generating or not generating certain types of thoughts throughout the day. Awareness: perceiving the world without generating any thoughts (the real form of meditation). Therefore, there is no Effort, no choice and no discrimination (all of these require generation of thoughts). In Total Attention, no thoughts are generated (ie, you cannot be totally attentive while you are thinking about something). If you working on something with total attention, that is MEDITATION. Mindfulness: Sustaining some thoughts (about some object in the mind or a concept) in the present moment. This object or concept of the mind in mindfulness is an image in the conscious filed; these thoughts are generated from past memories stored in the brain. So, it really is not the 'Present moment.' Sustaining thoughts require effort, which requires energy and complex thought generation. This method does not work in the way they are told it does. Neither does meditation. Meditation: Exercising some discipline to focus on an object internally or externally. Discipline involves generation of thoughts, focusing on an object involves generation of thoughts. So, the mind is not really calm in many ways. Meditation and mindfulness have similarities. The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind is NOT the degree of concentration or focusing. Here complex thoughts are required. Tense mind. The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind IS the degree of Awareness (total attention). Here thoughts are not generated. Calm mind.
🎁 COMPLIMENTARY BOOK SAMPLES
Ramana Maharshi’s Who Am I?: u.pc.cd/gqEctalK
Ramana Maharshi’s Forty Verses on What Is: u.pc.cd/yDn7
📺 VIDEO SERIES
Dive into the 8 key points of Bhagavan’s teachings with this video series: th-cam.com/play/PLnw6ACy-wqrwp_s4WI1LvyV8uBRo2FnJs.html&si=nUHNE5yyTh1iy5JY
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Yes, thanks. And non-stop meditative being, is ideal. Meditative sessions, fxp. Vipassana, helps to be meditative permanently. Both are good, a constantly conscious, "meditative" being is ideal.Yes, it is not “meditate and go back to normal life. It is a nonstop meditative being. 🙂💙🙏
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It seems that there is an indifference to sitting, neither for nor against it. It seems we ought to be careful that a sitting practice (which can be undertaken for multiple other good reasons) doesn't create a distraction from the continuity of self-investigation called for in the times we aren't sitting. Is that catching the point of the video?
1:37 How can that ever be done? The mind can do only one thing at a time. When you do some work with your mind , you can think about that work only. You cannot do swaroopa smarana at that time. Are you personally doing two works at the same time with the mind? It is impossible. Sastras also say the same thing. What is the end result of doing such unbroken Swaroopa smarana? Have you personally achieved that result? When I hear your talk, I can hear what you say; but I cannot do svaroopa smarana at that time.Physical works can be done with svaroopa smarana, but mental works cannot be done with svaroopa smarana.
From what I gather from my limited knowledge is that what he was saying here sounded a lot like zen in the sense that you get to a point in which you can be in that meditative "sitting-state" (mindfulness?) if you will, yet still do other activities.
@@secretagent4610 May be. However, he follows Ramana Maharshi 's teachings, literally , word by word.
@muralidharankv169 Doesn't mean there can't be overlap in similar teachings. "Take what is useful, discard what isn't." In my opinion, one shouldn't cling too hard to one teacher or one teaching. In fact, I don't think one should cling too hard to anything or any idea in this life. Learn from wherever and whomever you can learn from. There are many great teachers from all over, from various schools of thought. Empty the cup.
My understanding from Bhagavan's teachings - I am definitely not there to say this from my experience - is that, the body and mind have come here for a purpose and they will do what they have come to do. So if you direct your attention to the Self, activities will continue nevertheless. For example, counting money involves so many physical and mental processes - handling the money one by one without dropping, counting each note as it passes from one hand to another and finally doing either a running or final total. But an experienced person can do all this while all the time thinking about that day's cricket match. Similarly while other activities go on, the mind can instead stay on the self. Swami Yatiswarananda of Ramakrishna mission calls this "training the mind such that one sixteenth of it is always on God"
Awareness: perceiving the world without generating any thoughts (the real form of meditation). Therefore, there is no Effort, no choice and no discrimination (all of these require generation of thoughts). In Total Attention, no thoughts are generated (ie, you cannot be totally attentive while you are thinking about something). If you are working on something with total attention, you are MEDITATING.
Mindfulness: Sustaining some thoughts (about some object in the mind or a concept) in the present moment. This object or concept of the mind in mindfulness is an image in the conscious filed; these thoughts are generated from past memories stored in the brain. So, it really is not the 'Present moment.' Sustaining thoughts require effort, which requires energy and complex thought generation. This method does not work in the way they are told it does. Neither does meditation.
Meditation: Exercising some discipline to focus on an object internally or externally. Discipline involves generation of thoughts, focusing on an object involves generation of thoughts. So, the mind is not really calm in many ways. Meditation and mindfulness have similarities.
The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind is NOT the degree of concentration or focusing. Here complex thoughts are required. Tense mind.
The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind IS the degree of Awareness (total attention). Here thoughts are not generated. Calm mind.
IT is all about generating or not generating certain types of thoughts throughout the day. Meditation (spirituality) is not meant for only 30 minutes a day in a quiet place. Meditation (spirituality) is constant. Spirituality is all about generating or not generating certain types of thoughts throughout the day.
Awareness: perceiving the world without generating any thoughts (the real form of meditation). Therefore, there is no Effort, no choice and no discrimination (all of these require generation of thoughts). In Total Attention, no thoughts are generated (ie, you cannot be totally attentive while you are thinking about something). If you working on something with total attention, that is MEDITATION.
Mindfulness: Sustaining some thoughts (about some object in the mind or a concept) in the present moment. This object or concept of the mind in mindfulness is an image in the conscious filed; these thoughts are generated from past memories stored in the brain. So, it really is not the 'Present moment.' Sustaining thoughts require effort, which requires energy and complex thought generation. This method does not work in the way they are told it does. Neither does meditation.
Meditation: Exercising some discipline to focus on an object internally or externally. Discipline involves generation of thoughts, focusing on an object involves generation of thoughts. So, the mind is not really calm in many ways. Meditation and mindfulness have similarities.
The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind is NOT the degree of concentration or focusing. Here complex thoughts are required. Tense mind.
The difference between an ordinary mind and a great mind IS the degree of Awareness (total attention). Here thoughts are not generated. Calm mind.
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