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The ring is from Viserys’ wife, Aemma. He kinda sees his wife when he sees Rhaenyra, but now Rhaenyra left so he’s all alone. That’s probably why he looked sad and kissed the ring.
Yes, many people say he's weak. His real weakness is he's really just a kind family man not fit for all the political machinations that a king has to bear the responsibility for.
@butera grande Nice, I didn't think about that. I recognize the ring and the sadness about his first wife but not linked it to the left of Rhaenyra and he clearly has a dear love for her because he loved his wife 🥲
@@peepinR I really like Viserys but he is weak and stupid and a spoiled brat sometimes. First he clearly force Aemma for the C-section. After, and especially after the baby death, he is sad and full of remorses but he still do that to the women he loved. Daemon, in the same situation, asks if his wife will survive and not the child, as Viserys does with Aemma. Besides, Daemon seems to say no to the doctor for the procedure. But Laenna chooses her death herself and it is also a victory for Aemma. Then, he gets manipulated by Otto to such an extent that it's heartbreaking. He is completely immature because after naming Rhaenyra as heiress he should have either never remarried or married Laenna. He could never touch her and never impregnate her. He could clearly wait until she was at least older, no one would blame him. Not having heirs would only have stabilized Rhaenyra so might as well marry the kid with the perfect political alliance. Instead, marrying his daughter's friend, seriously what a jerk. We're talking about Alice acting behind Rhaenyra's back, but her father consoling himself with his daughter's best friend? A brat's whim, there is no other reason for this choice. She was only a child manipulated by her father but he was an adult and the king. In the 4th episode I wanted to hit him. Calling Alicent in the middle of the night to get laid without even seeming disturbed that the young girl seems to be looking at the ceiling, clearly not taking any pleasure...... Ok it's the king, marital duty etc but the fact that it seems completely not caring that Alicent did not react disturbed me much more than uncle Daemon who teaches Rhaenyra that sex can and should be a pleasure 😅🤣 Well, he didn't need to show her off in real life but they're Targaryens and they've been married as siblings since even before Aegon the Conqueror. Viserys and Daemon's parents were siblings from memory. All of these decisions are stupid. He let Otto separate him from his brother who was far from the worst Targaryen in the world and who clearly could have calmed down if he had been smarter with him. He should have accepted Daemon's marriage proposal. His marriage had clearly not been consummated and could have been annulled. He probably didn't even ask his daughter if she wanted to marry Daemon which was a perfect proposition for a Targaryen queen. Nope !! They prefer to marry her by force to her cousin, who is clearly gay, asking her to start making lots of little heirs!!! The worst is that we are surprised that Rhaenyra made them elsewhere ....... Anyway, Viserys is actually a complete disaster but the actor is so great that we forgive him. Everything dramatic that going to happen will be, in most part, his fault.
Fun fact: Vhagar (Laenas dragon) is the last of the three og dragons from Aegon's conquest. His older sister-wife Visenia rode Vhagar during that time. (Aegon rode Balerion and his second sister-wife Rhaenys rode Meraxes but both of those dragons are dead already) So Vhagar is a pretty big deal in this show... It's so cool that we can see her alive 😊
It would have been informative to see how Layrus was able to kill his father and brother there was some family conflict that was not shown that should have been presented then what he did would have made sense
Viserys kissing aemma's ring and crying cause Rhaenyra left made me so emotional. I'm pretty neutral about Viserys, but i feel so sorry for him. at the end of the day, he just wanted things to be ok for everyone. he's probably feeling guilty too. Rhaenyra had to left because of all the things that are happening and he knows it.
@@Nihilanth yes, that simple, in fact this was the most stupid decision of all times......he doesn't even made it for duty or alliance. It was just lust and a immature whim.
@@Nihilanth this is all Otto's fault. If he didn't press the king to name Rhaenyra as heir, and continued with his plan to get the king married to Alicent, the moment Aegon was born he would automatically be heir. But Otto is a reactionary fool and his daughter is the same. They are petty and short sighted. Had Otto not been driven by his petty resentment towards Daemon, he wouldn't have suggested Viserys name Rhaenyra as heir, he would have just passed on the "heir for a day" comment and been rid of Daemon. It was an overreaction to get Viserys to name Rhaenyra as heir. For the record I prefer Rhaenyra over Aegon and I'm team black 100%. I just think Otto's is a dummy who caused all these problems.
This is one of those instances where they do something dumb to make better visual story telling, I doubt that they really had a firefly sigil on them going in there. Showrunners put it there to make it easier for people to identify the 3 randos Larys selected for this
6:32 Oh guys C'mon! , that made me chuckle 😂 The Previous scene was showing who the Father was, Didn't you see the looks HARWIN & Rhaenyra were exchanging 👀
Alicent daughter’s name is Helaena, and she does have a dragon named Dreamfyre which might have been the big dragon Aemond sees in the dragon pit! Dreamfyre is bigger than Daemon’s dragon.
13:55 Those color-coded kids learning to fight in the courtyard (green for Alicent's, red-black for Rhaenyra's) aren't all grandkids of King Viserys. Only Viserys' daughter Rhaenyra's kids (here Jacaerys and Lucerys Valeryon) are his grandkids while his wife Alicent's (here Aegon and Aemond Targaryen) are in fact his direct kids (and thus Rhaenyra's step-brothers), even though they are all of similar young age.
Good video guys, I always like when people really get into the show and discuss the episode afterwards, plus the 'Inside the Episode' reaction at the end is just a bonus.
Laena overheard Daemon talking to the maester about the C-section. She knew what happened to Queen Aemma in episode 1. She refused to die at the hands of men. She knew that both she & the baby were doomed so she chose to have Vhagar give her the death she wanted. Vhagar, having lost so many riders already, was so hesitant to do it because she didn't want to be alone & rider less once again. But Vhagar is also a female dragon & can empathize with Laena. Once she realized what Leana was feeling & the horrible painful death that awaited her (dying in childbirth), Vhagar gave her the mercy of a quick death by dragon fire.
And interestingly despite being a way more chaotic person and prone to violence and rash decisions than his brother, Daemon actually says no to the C section which I thought was interesting Though they should have done a better job explaining that the baby was dead (stillborn) and Laena was going to die in a few hours and there was nothing they could do, and included the scene with Daemon and his daughters I love this show but they bungled that scene a bit
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22:03 As soon as I saw this scene the first thing that came to my mind was Tywin Lannister ordering Tyrion to marry Sansa and Cersei to Loras and when the two tried to complain he reminded them out loud who was the boss. it really pisses me off to see Viserys's lack of balls to remind Alicent (a mere opportunist) that he is the king and that if he simply ordered that his daughter has to marry with Rhaenyra's son she would have to accept it without saying a single word
I'm pretty sure Otto will be the next hand again, not Larys himself. Larys killed the current hand after Alicent expressed frustration that no one was on her side and her father would have her back. So he took Lyonel out of the picture to make way for him.
I think Larys is playing the long game. Otto will be the next hand. The King will pass away, Alicent will try to take over on behalf of her eldest boy. Then Larys will bring about Otto's death and take over as Hand, himself. I haven't read the books, so there's a chance I could be way off base too lol.
i think it came from the Baratheons. Rhaenys' (Corlys' wife) is part Baratheon and her is hair is Dark in the books. And when Ned was reading the history of the houses, all the male Baratheons had dark hair besides Joffrey
@@markcruz359 In the books, her hair is black with white streaks and we don’t get a description of Rhaenyra’s mom in the books but you can assume since she was half Aryenn that she could have had darker hair there. This scandal was ALOT more harder to point out as book wise you can just assume the kids inherited their hair color from their genes so no that saying wasn’t originated from House Strong it was specifically for the Baratheon’s since no matter what, their hair color would be passed on. The show made everything more obvious by giving the Targaryens and Velaryon’s all white hair then also made the Velaryon’s black too so it gets made MORE obvious these kids aren’t Laenor’s
7:58 , There are 2 ways to bond to a dragon I heard. 1) They place the dragon egg in the crib of the baby, if they hatch they're usually bonded at birth. 2) if the egg doesn't hatch in the crib, The Targaryen must CLAIM the Dragon on his / her own to become it's rider. It may be any dragon, Old or young. For example: VHAGAR (she dragon) is 140+ yrs Old , was not born to Laena she had to claim it, VHAGARs previous rider was Daemon & Viserys' Father Baelon "the brave" (King Jaehaerys 2nd son). Laena had to Claim it by bonding with it when it was already huge.
Laena's death is slightly different in the book. It is glossed over. The birth starts to go sideways, and all it says is that she tried to ride her dragon one last time. The baby also dies during the brith. I actually like the way they handled it in the show. I like that it was Laena's choice, and I like that Daemon has a micro shake of his head when the maester says Laena won't survive. It shows he would have made a different choice to Viserys, without him saying a word.
Laena told Daemon she wanted to die a dragonrider's death, and it seemed she knew she wouldn't survive the birth so she went out on her own terms. It's sad and beautiful at the same time, especially when it's obvious her dragon hesitated.
From Laenor and Harwin's interaction (and with Rhaenyra) when Rhaenyra and Laenor returned to their chambers with newborn baby Joffrey and Harwin was watching the older boys, it seemed pretty obvious that Laenor was well aware that Harwin was the biological father of his sons and was okay with it.
Alicent is a by the book traditional woman and Rhaenyra throws it out the window whenever it pleases her. Aegon should be 13-14yrs. old pulling that Homelander in that window.. Pregnancy's are brutal... Shout out to all the women who have done it and more than once. Now Queen Aemma vs Lady Laena pregnancy's death scene, when it happened to the Queen King Viserys asked if the "BABY" would survive but Daemon asked if the "MOTHER/Laena" would survive... Oohh! Daemon was going to try an save Laena but Laena knew that both her and the baby were going to die and she made "HER" choice, A Dragon Riders Death. Daemon did love her and I believe he will return to her home (can't remember name ) to raise the girl's at some point hopefully next episode. Larys is the original Little Finger...HAHAHA.
Alicent's daughter, Helaena, becomes a dragon rider later. In fact, she will end up being Dreamfyre's rider, that's the adult female dragon that scared young Aemond in the dragon pit. Not all those who have the ability to connect with dragons do so in childhood. Many of them, like Laena Velaryon didn't bond with their dragons until they were teenagers or young adults (like Jon Snow & Rhaegal). Only one of Laena's twin girls has a dragon, the other is still trying to get the egg that was placed in her cradle to finally hatch. That's when Laena tells her daughter, Rhaena, that she was 15 years old before she found & rode Vhagar for the first time. That is something I wish the show creators had included within that 10 year time jump. Where did Laena go to find Vhagar? What was the process of her riding Vhagar & "taming" her? That would have been so cool to see considering how gigantic the she-dragon is compared to the younger dragons in the show. Vhagar is the oldest & biggest dragon still alive & will have several riders over the course of her long life. So the scene with the 4 boys in the dragon pit, Aegon & his two "half nephews" (Rhaenyra's dark haired sons) all have their own dragons, but Aemond (Alicent's 2nd boy) doesn't. This is why they tease & bully him because he never bonded with the egg that was placed inside his crib when he was a baby/toddler... Alicent has a 3rd son named Daeron, but he hasn't been introduced yet. Alicent's kids are Aegon II, Helaena, Aemond, & Daeron. Rhaenyra has 3 kids so far - Jacaerys, Lucaerys, & Joffrey Velaryon. Even though Alicent's kids have the last name Targaryen after their dad, they are dressed in green to represent Alicent's house instead of the red/black (which will eventually become Rhaenyra's colors). Right now, Jace & Luc are dressed in blue for House Velaryon becasue they go by that last name (for now).
Seeing Harwin beat the sh*t out of Cole was very satisfying - he's a big dude! Really hate how his brother, the real SNAKE, did him dirty like that, and his dad. That is probably the most horrific fire/burning scene ive ever seen on tv or in movies, really felt that. Poor guy, what a way to go, really liked him, both of them. Larys, whilst hated, what a character. Didn't think he would be such an important character. Maybe just a wormtongue type, trying to get the Queen's favour. But wow. Alicent, be careful what you wish for ps Edit: love the fact that you guys react to 'inside the episode' after the ep is over. I hope you guys consider doing that with other shows you react to, should they have the same, Rick and Morty for example
For me, it was not because Cole manipulated Harwin during all this scene. He wanted to expose him and the poor Harwin was totally played by Cole. Cole IS a duchebag but he is also one of the best fighter at the time. Here, he let Harwin punch him without reaction willingly. Do you see him ache or moan After? No this asshole Split a little blood laughing at the same time because it was is plan. Harwin get expelled from city watch and the capital and Cole IS a warrior hé doesn't give a shit about the punch. In fact, has a hassloke he is i am certain he kind of enjoy it
If Viserys had approved of Rhaenyra's idea of a betrothal between her son Jaecerys and Alicent's daughter Haelena, he should have insisted upon the engagement and wedding . . . as king. Instead, he allowed Alicent to decide the issue because he wanted to please her, like he tried with Rhaenyra in the past. Also, it's pretty clear that Laenor knew about Rhaenyra and Ser Harwin, considering he had his new side piece, Ser Quarl.
Alicents daughter, princess Heleana, probably doesn't need to be at the dragonpit because her dragon, Dreamfyre, is an adult dragon that is already used to riders and commands. Assuming Heleana already claimed Dreamfyre at this point. Dreamfyre is the dragon Aemond runs away from.
*DAEMON'S* *BOOK* *VS.* *TV* *EVENTS* *SPOILERS* *AHEAD* "Viserys's first wife, Aemma Arryn, died birthing Baelon Targaryen, Viserys' second son, the first having died in the cradle. Baelon died a day after his birth, however. Daemon was observed in a brothel in the Street of Silk making drunken japes about the "heir for a day". When word of this reached the grieving Viserys, the enraged king had Rhaenyra declared heir and Princess of Dragonstone in response to his ungrateful brother's apathy. The furious Daemon resigned from the gold cloaks and flew with Mysaria on Caraxes to Dragonstone, and so was not present for Rhaenyra's ceremony in the Red Keep." What happened in the TV show/Episode 1: Book accurate except we never really see and hear Daemon say, "heir for a day". And perhaps he said it and it was taken out of context? _ "Living on Dragonstone, Daemon impregnated his lover, Mysaria. He wanted to present her with a dragon egg, but the angry Viserys demanded that Daemon return the egg and return to Rhea in the Vale. Daemon sent Mysaria to Lys, but Mysaria's ship sailed through a storm in the narrow sea and Mysaria lost the child. This hardened Daemon against his brother." What happened in the TV show/Episode 2: Daemon does steal an egg but to get Viserys'attention to speak to him and Mysaria never got pregnant. _ "In 106 AC, Daemon and Corlys Velaryon, Lord of the Tides, allied together for a private war for the Stepstones, with Daemon desiring his own kingdom and Corlys wanting to rid the Stepstones of rule by the Triarchy. While Corlys provided the Velaryon fleet, Daemon flew on his dragon, Caraxes, and led an army of adventurers and second sons." "Daemon made many enemies from Lys, Myr, and Tyrosh, and he slew Craghas Drahar in 108 AC. After conquering all but two of the islands, Daemon declared himself King of the Stepstones and the Narrow Sea in 109 AC, being crowned by Corlys the Sea Snake. The Triarchy launched a massive fleet under Racallio Ryndoon to retake the isles, and Dorne joined the alliance against Daemon." What happened in the TV show/Episode 3: This pretty much happened in the show. Just had Daemon losing the war after 3 years. Then added battle scenes that weren't written in the book. In Episode 6, they even mention the Tyroshi captain allying himself to Dorne. _ "Septon Eustace alleged that Daemon had seduced Rhaenyra, taking her maidenhood prior to her sixteenth name day, and that the two had been found by Ser Arryk Cargyll of the Kingsguard. Eustace's tale has Rhaenyra expressing her love for Daemon. The notorious Mushroom instead claimed that Daemon had been providing explicit lessons to the girl in how to seduce her champion, Ser Criston Cole of the Kingsguard, whom the girl was supposedly in love with. When Rhaenyra approached Criston, however, he spurned her. Lyonel Strong, Lord of Harrenhal, counseled the livid Viserys that Daemon should be executed for treason. Eustace, however, reminded the council about the taint of kinslaying, and Daemon was exiled instead. Daemon returned to Bloodstone in the Stepstones and resumed his struggle over his barren kingdom." What happened in the TV show/Episode 4: Daemon seduces Rhaenyra who then seduces Criston and Criston doesn't reject her unlike in the books. There is no Septon Eustace or Mushroom giving these accounts. But Mushroom's account was more accurate to what was shown on TV. _ "In 115 AC, while she was hawking in the Vale, Lady Rhea fell from her horse and cracked her skull upon a stone. She lingered for nine days before finally feeling well enough to leave her bed, only to collapse and die within an hour of rising. Upon learning of Rhea's death, Prince Daemon flew from Bloodstone to put his wife to rest. After arriving in the Vale, however, he claimed the lands, castles, and incomes of House Royce. Runestone passed to a nephew of Lady Rhea, however, and Daemon's claim was dismissed by Lady Jeyne Arryn, who warned him that he was unwelcome in the Vale." What happened in the TV show/Episode 5: Rhea Royce did die from falling from a horse but it's implied that Daemon kills her with the stone. _ "Daemon abandoned the Stepstones and flew to the Vale of Arryn to claim Runestone, which had been Rhea's seat, but he was refused by House Royce. Sent away from the Vale by Lady Jeyne Arryn, Daemon turned to Driftmark, where he laid eyes upon the enchanting Laena Velaryon, the daughter of his friend, Lord Corlys, and he asked the Sea Snake for her hand in marriage. Laena was already betrothed to the son of a late Sealord of Braavos, but Daemon killed the Braavosi with Dark Sister in a duel. While singers say Daemon fell in love with Laena at first sight, others state Daemon married into mighty House Velaryon to check his own descent from power, as he had been pushed far down the line of succession and made many enemies in his adventures." "Because the marriage had been without consent of King Viserys I Targaryen, Daemon and Laena left Westeros for Essos. Mushroom claims the pair went to the ruins of Valyria, but more reliable sources indicate they toured the Free Cities, visiting Pentos, Volantis, Qohor, and Norvos. They returned for some time to Pentos, where they learned that Laena was pregnant, causing their daughters Baela and Rhaena to be born there in 116 AC." "When the twins were half a year old, the family returned to Driftmark. Daemon wrote his brother begging leave to present his daughters to court to receive a royal blessing. The small council advised the king to refuse, but Viserys told Grand Maester Mellos, "Daemon is a father now. He will have changed." "Viserys' daughter, Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen, was wed to Laena's brother, Ser Laenor Velaryon. While Rhaenrya disliked her stepmother, Queen Alicent Hightower, she became fond of Laena, and the two often flew together on their dragons. With the blessing of King Viserys, Rhaenyra betrothed her two eldest sons, Jacaerys and Lucerys Velaryon, to Baela and Rhaena." "Laena died in 120 AC, the Year of the Red Spring, trying to birth a son who died as well." "Harwin died in a fire at Harrenhal that same year, with it also killing his father, Lord Lyonel Strong. The fire was said to be an accident and blamed on the curse of Harrenhal. Other non-mystical suspects included Prince Daemon Targaryen, whose motive would have been eliminating a rival for Princess Rhaenyra's affections; Lord Corlys Velaryon, as revenge for Harwin cuckolding his son; Harwin's brother, Larys, to claim the inheritance of Harrenhal; and King Viserys I, to eliminate the man who brought dishonor on his House." What happened in the TV show/Episode 6: Most of the events with Laena did happen. Or whatever events were shown since it was a 10-year time jump. Harwin and Lyonel did die in a fire at Harrenhal but if was no accident or curse. Larys was the perpetrator. Neither Daemon or Corlys were involved. _ *According* *to* *Mushroom,* Qarl had killed Laenor on behalf of Prince Daemon Targaryen, although there was no shred of proof for this. What happens in the TV show/Episode 7: ????????? My guess is Daemon won't be the one ordering Laenor killed as I believe Laenor will die in the next episode by his newest boyfriend. The one Rhaenyra asked to bring. There is no Mushroom in the TV show unless we assume it's the imp we saw in the Green Wedding for about 2 seconds. Even if that's Mushroom, he had no shred of proof from the book that Daemon had Laenor killed since he's friends with his father and fought alongside Laenor in the Stepstones. Laenor actually saves Daemon's life on Seasmoke.
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family th0t, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you. Nah but lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Blackcest fans swearing this time the Girlboss Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silva gif.
Viserys and Allicents girl does have a dragon, I’m not quite sure how you came to the conclusion that she doesn’t “Who’s dragon is that” that is probably Dreamfyre which is Halaena’s dragon 😂
I think Alicent never realized how power hungry Larys is. I think she saw him as a master of whispers and that’s it, which of course means valuable information for Alicent. My question is when he says “you’ll reward me” what reward does he want that Alicent can give? I would think having private dinners with the queen is enough but clearly not
He might be a sociopath for killing his brother and his father without any remorses but he is not stupid and "having private dinner with the Queen" will clearly don't be enough.....
Alicent could turn in Larys now but he was banking on one thing - who are Alicent's allies at court? In the last episode he revealed he knew she doesn't have many friends. Now Alicent only has Ser Criston and Larys himself to confide in, she's unlikely to undermine that relationship and I think Larys knows it.
It’s so odd. Condal says Daemon made a joke out of Aemma’s death, but we never actually saw him do it, and he looked sad, so I always interpreted it differently. They write it purposely this way, and then supposedly tell you what happened. I don’t even watch them anymore.
Pay close attention to what Helena says and it's very important,I wish they had shown us more about Harwin and Laena that watching the series for the agent feels more pain when the characters die, so when I saw the two characters die I was sad for the death of the two but not to the point of crying for them two characters,you know,I think the writers didn't want to show too much of the two characters for a simple reason and because they probably don't think it's important to the story When Laena says she wants her husband back what she married is true because the daemon is depressed and just realizing that he just stays at home reading a book and not sleeping well the daemon gets depressed he misses Viserys and Rhaenyra just that he doesn't want to see them,the daemon that we know he doesn't see and so The Daemon had spoken no with his head but still Laena died and sad I prefer what they did in the series than the book in the book she loses the baby then she gets depressed then one night she decides to go to her dragon but on the way she falls down the stairs and dies so I prefer it in the series and more exciting because we see her bond with the dragon,Daemon loved his wife so much that he made no sign, he loves her and his daughters only the writers don't show it anymore in the book asa de fire and blood that he loves his daughters and his wife the most Unfortunately the writers prefer not to show it had two deleted scenes one and the daemon hugging his daughters already the other deleted scene and the daemon sending his daughters to the bedroom because they were seeing their mother in the fourth trying to have the baby that's why the daemon arrives at the time of Laena's death and couldn't prevent her death A curiosity for those who watched Doctor Who, this actor who plays Aegon he is the son of David Tennant, he is David he has worked with Matt both have been Doctor Who and now Matt is working with the son of David Tennant I recommend you watch Doctor Who is very good this series if I'm not mistaken it has 13 seasons it's very worth watching I recommend you watch Doctor Who
What I love about this show is the backstabbing. It’s so much more out in the open than what Game of Thrones was 😂 There’s almost a naivety to the characters at this point than when Cersei etc are alive in how the play they game, although the manipulation is top notch 👌🏻
Alicent is a queen and has been for some time. Going around thinking she knows the game but couldn’t tell that crippled dude was shady????????? HOW SWAY?! If she couldn’t tell that then there’s no way she’s smart enough to know anything else. She knows zero things. Nothing. Zip. Nodda. Zilch.
[No Spoilers here] In the books, Leana gives a birth to a deformed baby, is dead and she was most certainly going to die by blood lose but she wanted to ride vaghar a last time and she was walking towards her, but died while walking down the steps, and deamon carried her to her bed which is quite different here, but i would like to think when the maestor said, the child will not come which i mean he's saying that the infant is dead, and deamon didn't chose to cut her like her brother did and Leana jst took on her hands to die like that. (I'm no expert, but if the scene was like the child was born dead, leana is devastated and she knows that she's gonna die aswell and same scene as she tells vaghar to kill her or die while riding her would have been better ig) cause most viewers get thrown when she just wanted to die with her unborn baby which is not quite clearly says it's dead. That's all, great reaction as always.
Question? If sir Cristion was a women would most say he’s being petty or would we say rhaenyra manipulated him and we understand??? She did use her position of power to sleep around and get what she wants!!! Be honest, especially the ladies.
21:38 That's wholesome, but Rhaenyra wasn't actually trying to repair their friendship. Just a few moments ago she kept on antagonizing Alicent by rebutting everything that she was saying. The marriage proposal between Rhaenyra's son and Alicent's daughter was made out of self interest. Rhaenyra knows that most people now know that her sons are bastards, and her eldest son is the next in line for the throne after her. So, to strengthen her son's position, it would be great for him to marry a true Targaryen. She also knew that Alicent will not agree to this and that will make Alicent appear bad. It was a win-win for Rhaenyra.
27:19 , She was going to die either way 100%, if they do C section they weren't sure the baby would survive either. That maester / doctor just told that to daemon. Laena decided to die the way she wanted before they let her die on the bed or C section. Looked like Daemon chose not to do C section.
I understand Cristan is mad at Rheanyra, and he might have a reason to be. But I have a problem with him taking his anger out on her children. I also remember him telling her in episode 3 that all he has he owes to her. Seems like he kind of forgot that.
I’m confused I know I’m watching this a year after you posted it however did you all miss that sir Harwin 😊 was the father of all her children personally he’s my favorite character out of the entire series and I wish we would’ve had more with him. I think that he’s an amazing father, and an amazing partner for a queen that can’t announce him or queen to be that can’t announce him as rather half. But I’m not sure that you had that because you didn’t say anything about all of those boys looking just like him.
Am I the only one who thinks that Daemon is clinically depressed? I've been in treatment for it for more than 20 years, and his behaviour seems pretty typical.
Vaghar is the last of the old dragons. Vaghar another dragon, and Balerion (the black dread, the huge skull in the prayer hall) were the dragons during Aagons conquest. They were all born in Valeria. Remember when Leana Valerion was 12 and she was talking to Vaceryes about Vahgar? She ended up riding Vahgar. That's why she (Vahgar) didn't want to kill her, any other time with one word Dracarys Vaghar would've killed. So sad🥺 Sorry about the numerous misspelled names lol
Correction: VHAGAR & MERAXES were born on DRAGONSTONE. BALERION was the last livin creature to have known Valyria (words of King Viserys). He was born in Valyria.
I've noticed that people are really against Cristen Cole that he's an incel and a sexist but to be honest , Raenyra is just as guilty as him if not more , she literally used him and even though the judgement and insults against her seems harsh they're actually spot on , lol . She has committed every wrong and to be honest they're more than Allicent technically . Also she's clearly being hypocritical to Laenor when she mentions that she has let him do whatever he wants in fact she has also done whatever she wanted but her exploits were the one's which endangered her entire family and her position , not Laenor and then she pulls rank on him just as she did to Cristen Cole . Raenyra is FAR FROM PERFECT .
People are against Cole because of his response breaking his relationship with rhenerya is completely justified but killing a innocent men at a wedding and literally bullying her kids is not justified , she never pulled rank with Cole she didn't order him to have sex with her she saduced him and he fell for it , rhenerya may not be perfect but that doesn't absolve Cole .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 I'm saying that they were both wrong , but her being the princess definitely was a factor . She has more power than him also that dude was not innocent , lol he literally threatened him .
@@rahilrameez8635 her being a princess means nothing he's a kings guard not a random knight she can't make him have sex with her princess do not have that kind of power . she saduced him like a normal person people like you really need to stop overexagerating the power a princess has , he wasn't threatening him he was just saying he knew His secret and that it's safe with him so long as the marriage goes well that's not a threat .
@@macca777 😂🤣 So he brought the kids out, whom he wasn't even consoling..... to watch them smolder? 🤣😂 Just and fyi.... you don't have to pick them up by hand. 🤣🤣🤣
jussayin - it was night when she got burned. The sun was out when he brought the kids out to look at them. I've handled hot ashes many times without issue. Can't imagine me leaving my wife's remains out on the lawn for a cool down... 🤣🤣
Alicent keeps being manipulated by her father, Larys Strong.... And becomes paranoid, thinking everyone is out to get her and her children. Until this point, Rhaenyra did nothing to indicate she intends to harm her half-siblings. Let's see.
Larys isn't her dad. Otto is. Regardless Alicent knows her sons are doomed when Viserys dies. This is why she's so persistent in advancing Aegon. She's doing what any other mom would do to protect her kids. The offer to marry Ali's daughter to Rhae's bastard son wouldn't work.l cuz he's a bastard and not a true born heir. That's how it works. It's not how it should work and it is unfair but that's what a medieval system was actually like.
@@peepinR I think so, it was a desperate move of Rhaenyra the idea of marrying her son to Helaena, that way not even Alicent could talk about Jacaerys parentage, and subdued the rumors tremendously. Basically washing away his origins with Helaena as his wife.
@@meraxestargaryen7217 Although that wouldn't wash away the rumors about Jace's parentage, many other lords still would talk and question it and (if things come to push) the Hightowers and the Greens would probably try to convince and side with Aegon or Aemond over Helaena
I told you that you shouldn't get attached to any of these characters and here is the truth. Neither Aegon II or Rhaenyra are worthy to sit on the Iron Throne(Yes I know what happens so do not even try to make up any excuses for them). Also Cole is not wrong when it comes to warfare and children like Jacerys would go into battle at that age during those times. Tho I'm not supporting his brutal training methods but he wasn't wrong and at this point everyone knows that Rhaenyra's children are bastards(it is GOT after all and no secret stays that way forever). Also Vhagar is a female and is the last of three great dragons of conquest. Vhagar was the youngest out of the three Balerion was the oldest and Mercaxes was the middle. Vhagar found out about her siblings deaths(Balerion died of old age and Mercaxes died from a scorpion bolt to the eye) and Vhagar has had three riders up to this point(Viserya & Baelon Targrayen and Leana Valeryon) and after losing her child Leana wanted to die and wished Vhagar to burn her and Vhagar didn't want to but she granted her rider's wish. Vhagar is Queen of the Dragons. But she has seen more death and she is alone and saddened. The sad thing is that it was the dragons that are the true victims here and when the storm that will be known as the Dance of Dragons comes we will all weep.
Literally every reactor ever : Alicent you mad ya trifling self had to lay under that old musty kang while my boo Rhae Rhae was having a hot gurl summer!! Slay!! Don't be hatin cuz ya man got trash D! Ser Crispin ya stank azz still mad over a one night stand 10yrs ago? Boy bye!! 👋 As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". The world in which Criston lives he did the honorable thing. But ngl the memes are def hilarious. Men when you say no once gifs 😂. Gets rejected & starts a coup before it was cool 😂. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on Fresh and Fit 😂😂
*SPOILERS* *AHEAD* Blood and Cheese is still quite ahead. I see that happen by Season 2. That's when more viewers will start to HATE Daemon. That's much, much worse than killing his first wife he didn't love and contradicts Daemon becoming a good father. I read another 6-year time jump from Episode 7 to 8. We'll see the adult versions of Aegon, Helaena, and Aemond by Ep 8. The TV writers are making Daemon look worse than he is. He's now "bisexual" suggesting he's cheating on Laena with a random servant guy. 🤣 Annoying af. Now Marlon Brando was bi and I think he's the greatest actor to ever live. Neil Patrick Harris is straight up gay and I love NPH. But why change this? TV Daemon also showed he isn't a great father like he is in the book. I just feel if book Daemon is the standard or a 10/10, TV Daemon is like a 8/10. Not quite as great. TV Daemon got one great episode (Ep 3) and now he's becoming worse and worse. It's like he peaked in Ep 3 and now he's becoming a joke or unredeemable because he killed Rhea Royce and that's unforgivable to some viewers. In the book, it never really said he killed his wife. Wait after Luke dies and Blood and Cheese happens. Daemon and Aemond will look like the two worst characters in the series. The Dance practically ends after they kill each other although even Matt Smith said recently we don't really know if Daemon died? No body of him was ever found. It's still open-ended. I guess GRRM left it like that to leave the HOT D finale open enough to be altered. Wouldn't it be cool if Daemon does live at the end like Bruce Wayne after The Dark Knight Rises? Live quietly back in Pentos with Nettles? Perhaps he's the one to poison Aegon II to avenge Rhaenyra's death so his Aegon III can rule the throne? We'll see. But so far, I feel a tad disappointed by how he's shown for TV. I shouldn't be surprised at all. Book versions of Jon, Dany, and Stannis I've heard are way better. If Daemon got it bad, I think Criston Cole got much worse. He is more of a bad*ss in the book and they just made him on TV look like an idiot, simp, and c*nt. TV writers basically ruined who I believe is the best character in GOT in Jaime Lannister with that weak S8E5 of him dying from a pile of bricks next to Cersei. If TV writers can ruin Jaime, they can ruin Daemon too. IMO, I believe Daemon Targaryen and Jaime Lannister are the two greatest characters from GOT/HOT D. They're not just my top 2 favs but they're the GOATs of their respected TV shows. I prefer the more complicated characters. The torn souls. These are real deep characters dealing with all kinds of emotions and we feel all kinds of emotions for them. The ones I can love and hate but I'm still rooting for to find their peace. I prefer the redemption stories. Like I prefer Anakin's redemption (OG Trilogy) over his fall from grace (Prequels). I prefer seeing happiness for a "bad" character at the end than a good guy/Gary Stu character getting another happy finale that we can see a mile away. The bad characters who can turn good at the end are the more fascinating stories to watch. It's like watching the ending to The Shawshank Redemption. Never forget how much so many of us HATED Jaime in S1 and S2. Then by S3E3 when he heard Brienne was going to get gang raped, we watch Jaime needing to tell a lie to save her. That's the moment when we realized there was way more to Jaime than the d*uche who hated Ned in S1. We realize we were wrong about Jaime. He was only misunderstood and that he was a good man. Well, until he went back to Cersei in S8E5. SMH. Even though Matt Smith isn't as handsome as Nicolaj, Daemon does seem more charismatic and likeable to viewers than how Jaime was in S1 and S2. Jaime was universally reviled early on while Daemon is universally praised. I just hope Daemon doesn't get ruined at the end by TV writers like Jaime did. Another popular character from the book getting ruined by HBO who only want to show how evil Daemon is when book fans know he is a lot more than that. Then again, we must remember this isn't Disney. This isn't some cartoon. GOT/HOT D are not the type of shows to feel good. It's tragedy full of tragic characters. Look at the main character Rhaenyra. Look at her aliases as a queen. They're all derogatory. I guess if we want to root for the Mary Sues and Gary Stus with the feel-good stories and happy endings, this is the wrong show for us. Just when we see Daemon trying to live a domesticated and happy life, Laena dies. Just when we think it's going good, it goes bad.
I cannot believe they recast the entire cast for episode 6!!! Wtf!!!??? I refuse to continue watching. I watched five minutes. I was enjoying the show. I am not watching this!!! What a stupid decision!
The show is way better after the time jump because that’s when the main story begins. The first 5 episodes were backstory. These actresses will be our Rhaenyra and Alicent for the rest of the series so get over it.
First off, love your reaction. Alicent had anxiety issues visible since the first episode (fingernail picking) and they have sporadically gotten worse as the show progressed. As far as she is concerned she is completely alone in court. Her paranoia has grown after looking at each of Rhaenyra's kids not looking like Laenor at all and people choosing to dismiss it because the King does. Her allies are a bitter knight who acts more like a thug (Ser Criston) who cannot help her at all politically and a quiet dude who even though is an effective spymaster (Larys) has no political power base since his dad (Lyonel) protects his brother (Harwin). Her kids are a teenager who would be into porn and video games if they existed (Aegon), a bitter kid who is goaded into doing stupid things (Aemond), and a girl who is wholly uninterested in lady pursuits (Helaena). She is so frustrated that everyone just chooses to ignore Rhaenyra's transgressions while she has done everything by the book and goes ignored. Still, she tries to do things by the book, insisting that honor and decency will prevail. Alicent is also deeply religious as well and the Faith of the Seven (GoT's version of the Catholic Church) condemns bastardy in every way possible (hence why in your reaction to GoT Jon Snow is always frowned upon), so Alicent is even more furious because Rhaenyra commits blasphemy and gets away with it because she is the heir and she DARES to suggest that her lawful daughter marry a bastard even though that would be the best political compromise to ensure her kid's safety. She is just so angry that Rhaenyra is allowed to get away with all this SHE FAILS TO SEE that this is the best outcome for her kids. As for Rhaenyra, she may have matured as you say but she is also terrified as well. I see many people calling Alicent out for wanting to see the child at birth but she never said that Rhaenrya should come. Rhae is just as terrified of Alicent as she is of her. Rhae wants to be near every time Alicent and Viserys speak of anything because Viserys listens to Alicent's council. Her arrangement with Laenor in episode 5 was "let us have one kid then we can do what we want" but it's clear that none of the kids look like Laenor at ALL. Westeros is deeply religious and all it takes is one lord saying the wrong thing at the wrong time for it all to explode. Remember, there has not been a war within Westeros for decades and there are many people and houses who are looking for a fight (the Brackens and Blackwoods), the legitimacy of RHaenyra's kids being contested with accusations of Bastardy would be enough for many for it to be a war. Rhaenyra knows this deep down and sought to compromise because after Harwin's actions it was confirmed by many nobles present that those were STRONG BOYS. Marrying Helaena to Jace would quell the rumors and secure the position of Rhaenyra's kids. Her decision to leave for Dragonstone is based on protecting her kids from the Rumors spreading in the capital. from a motherly perspective, this is a good decision but politically it is terrible since it allows Alicent to have more influence in the politics of the realm. Do not forget that Otto is gonna come back and with no one to contest him directly it will make things a lot worse for Rhaenyra's camp. The Strongs are also in an awkward position. Lyonel loves his son so much that he knows that he is compromised. He got his position at the hand of the King because of his impartial advice. the council scene shows us how that reputation is now in shambles because every time he agrees with Rhaenyra on anything it will be seen as clear favoritism due to his son's intimate relationship with her. Lyonel knows he is pretty much looked at as Otto was, a man favoring his kin over the matters of the realm. so he tries to resign because it is an Honorable thing to do, but Viserys refuses. Larys is still a mystery and I end up with more questions. He sees how alone Alicent is and how desperate she is becoming and proceeds to hit three birds with one stone. by killing his father and brother he does not just allow Otto to return but he also installs himself as Lord of Harrenhal, a powerful political position from which he could help Alicent further (Harrenhal, despite being a ruined castle, has vast lands and riches to it). the third thing is that he places himself in a position where he can't be fired by Alicent because if he is accused by her (Only she knows and only she can do anything to him) all he has to say is " the Queen wished it LOL" and Alicent loses her power as well. I hope there is something else than just "I want power" trope that we have yet to see. The weakest plotline in my opinion is the Laena and Daemon plotline. Daemon loves Laena but he feels aimless and is wasting away. Even though he wants to be with Rhaenyra deep down he knows his presence only causes more problems. We are also shown his main character flaw; his pride and ego regarding his Valyrian Bloodline. He teaches his daughter Baena (who has a dragon) Valyrian and spends time with her while her other daughter is ignored. Laena sees this and despite her efforts Daemon still ignores her. The status quo is broken with Laena’s death. I think what many miss the point about Laena’s death is that by killing herself, Vhaegar has no rider and the potential exists for her dragonless daughter to inherit the largest of them all. She did not just for her “dragon rider’s death” but for her daughter. The episode's message overall is in Larys' final speech. that our kids and the love we have for them are our downfalls: Rhaenyra's love for her children makes her abandon the capital, giving Alicent's faction more power. Alicent's love for her kids prevents her from seeing the best option for their safety and has her stuck with a very scary person. Lyonel's love of Harwin compromised his position as an impartial advisor. Laena's love for her daughters led to her being willing to commit suicide by dragon. Viserys' love for Rhaenyra leads the country into a state of war.
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The ring is from Viserys’ wife, Aemma. He kinda sees his wife when he sees Rhaenyra, but now Rhaenyra left so he’s all alone. That’s probably why he looked sad and kissed the ring.
Yes, many people say he's weak. His real weakness is he's really just a kind family man not fit for all the political machinations that a king has to bear the responsibility for.
"Love stays the hand and dooms us all" seems to be the theme of the series
@butera grande Nice, I didn't think about that. I recognize the ring and the sadness about his first wife but not linked it to the left of Rhaenyra and he clearly has a dear love for her because he loved his wife 🥲
@@peepinR I really like Viserys but he is weak and stupid and a spoiled brat sometimes.
First he clearly force Aemma for the C-section. After, and especially after the baby death, he is sad and full of remorses but he still do that to the women he loved.
Daemon, in the same situation, asks if his wife will survive and not the child, as Viserys does with Aemma. Besides, Daemon seems to say no to the doctor for the procedure. But Laenna chooses her death herself and it is also a victory for Aemma.
Then, he gets manipulated by Otto to such an extent that it's heartbreaking. He is completely immature because after naming Rhaenyra as heiress he should have either never remarried or married Laenna. He could never touch her and never impregnate her. He could clearly wait until she was at least older, no one would blame him. Not having heirs would only have stabilized Rhaenyra so might as well marry the kid with the perfect political alliance.
Instead, marrying his daughter's friend, seriously what a jerk. We're talking about Alice acting behind Rhaenyra's back, but her father consoling himself with his daughter's best friend? A brat's whim, there is no other reason for this choice. She was only a child manipulated by her father but he was an adult and the king.
In the 4th episode I wanted to hit him. Calling Alicent in the middle of the night to get laid without even seeming disturbed that the young girl seems to be looking at the ceiling, clearly not taking any pleasure...... Ok it's the king, marital duty etc but the fact that it seems completely not caring that Alicent did not react disturbed me much more than uncle Daemon who teaches Rhaenyra that sex can and should be a pleasure 😅🤣 Well, he didn't need to show her off in real life but they're Targaryens and they've been married as siblings since even before Aegon the Conqueror. Viserys and Daemon's parents were siblings from memory.
All of these decisions are stupid. He let Otto separate him from his brother who was far from the worst Targaryen in the world and who clearly could have calmed down if he had been smarter with him.
He should have accepted Daemon's marriage proposal. His marriage had clearly not been consummated and could have been annulled. He probably didn't even ask his daughter if she wanted to marry Daemon which was a perfect proposition for a Targaryen queen. Nope !! They prefer to marry her by force to her cousin, who is clearly gay, asking her to start making lots of little heirs!!! The worst is that we are surprised that Rhaenyra made them elsewhere .......
Anyway, Viserys is actually a complete disaster but the actor is so great that we forgive him.
Everything dramatic that going to happen will be, in most part, his fault.
@@peepinR he’s a weak king . He might be a nice guy but that doesn’t make him a goof king
Fun fact: Vhagar (Laenas dragon) is the last of the three og dragons from Aegon's conquest. His older sister-wife Visenia rode Vhagar during that time. (Aegon rode Balerion and his second sister-wife Rhaenys rode Meraxes but both of those dragons are dead already) So Vhagar is a pretty big deal in this show... It's so cool that we can see her alive 😊
Oh, thanks for the insight! I remember reading this somewhere.
Larys not only killed his brother and father, he also became Lord of Harrenhall.
It would have been informative to see how Layrus was able to kill his father and brother there was some family conflict that was not shown that should have been presented then what he did would have made sense
The ring was Aemma's, his first wife.
It's a really good detail, he said back in episode 2 that her death is a wound that would never heal.
Viserys kissing aemma's ring and crying cause Rhaenyra left made me so emotional. I'm pretty neutral about Viserys, but i feel so sorry for him. at the end of the day, he just wanted things to be ok for everyone.
he's probably feeling guilty too. Rhaenyra had to left because of all the things that are happening and he knows it.
So many problems could have been avoided if Aemma was still alive...
@@MAKG435 or even if Viserys hadn't marry Alicent.
@@Nihilanth yes, that simple, in fact this was the most stupid decision of all times......he doesn't even made it for duty or alliance. It was just lust and a immature whim.
@@Nihilanth I blame Otto for it
@@Nihilanth this is all Otto's fault. If he didn't press the king to name Rhaenyra as heir, and continued with his plan to get the king married to Alicent, the moment Aegon was born he would automatically be heir. But Otto is a reactionary fool and his daughter is the same. They are petty and short sighted. Had Otto not been driven by his petty resentment towards Daemon, he wouldn't have suggested Viserys name Rhaenyra as heir, he would have just passed on the "heir for a day" comment and been rid of Daemon. It was an overreaction to get Viserys to name Rhaenyra as heir.
For the record I prefer Rhaenyra over Aegon and I'm team black 100%. I just think Otto's is a dummy who caused all these problems.
I love how Larys went to the trouble of cutting their tongues but still gave them badges that could easily be linked to him
This is one of those instances where they do something dumb to make better visual story telling, I doubt that they really had a firefly sigil on them going in there. Showrunners put it there to make it easier for people to identify the 3 randos Larys selected for this
6:32 Oh guys C'mon! , that made me chuckle 😂
The Previous scene was showing who the Father was, Didn't you see the looks HARWIN & Rhaenyra were exchanging 👀
Alicent daughter’s name is Helaena, and she does have a dragon named Dreamfyre which might have been the big dragon Aemond sees in the dragon pit! Dreamfyre is bigger than Daemon’s dragon.
She’s beautiful
13:55 Those color-coded kids learning to fight in the courtyard (green for Alicent's, red-black for Rhaenyra's) aren't all grandkids of King Viserys. Only Viserys' daughter Rhaenyra's kids (here Jacaerys and Lucerys Valeryon) are his grandkids while his wife Alicent's (here Aegon and Aemond Targaryen) are in fact his direct kids (and thus Rhaenyra's step-brothers), even though they are all of similar young age.
Rhaenyra did not drink the moon tea.
Good video guys, I always like when people really get into the show and discuss the episode afterwards, plus the 'Inside the Episode' reaction at the end is just a bonus.
Laena overheard Daemon talking to the maester about the C-section. She knew what happened to Queen Aemma in episode 1. She refused to die at the hands of men. She knew that both she & the baby were doomed so she chose to have Vhagar give her the death she wanted. Vhagar, having lost so many riders already, was so hesitant to do it because she didn't want to be alone & rider less once again. But Vhagar is also a female dragon & can empathize with Laena. Once she realized what Leana was feeling & the horrible painful death that awaited her (dying in childbirth), Vhagar gave her the mercy of a quick death by dragon fire.
And interestingly despite being a way more chaotic person and prone to violence and rash decisions than his brother, Daemon actually says no to the C section which I thought was interesting
Though they should have done a better job explaining that the baby was dead (stillborn) and Laena was going to die in a few hours and there was nothing they could do, and included the scene with Daemon and his daughters
I love this show but they bungled that scene a bit
Who have to make very special connection with a dragon in order to get one. I can’t just be given one. The dragon has to choose you.
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That is Vhagar from the Old Valyria. 😀
Vhagar is not from Valyria. Only Balerion was hatched in Valyria not long before the Doom. Vhagar was hatched on Dragonstone several decades later.
@@hoon_sol it’s funny how your comment history is a combination of smug corrections and admonishments to others for spoiling lol. Look to yourself
22:03 As soon as I saw this scene the first thing that came to my mind was Tywin Lannister ordering Tyrion to marry Sansa and Cersei to Loras and when the two tried to complain he reminded them out loud who was the boss. it really pisses me off to see Viserys's lack of balls to remind Alicent (a mere opportunist) that he is the king and that if he simply ordered that his daughter has to marry with Rhaenyra's son she would have to accept it without saying a single word
Helaena (Viserys and Alicenta daughter) has a dragon. Dreamfyre.
Her dragon's name is very suitable for her.
Thank you so much for reacting to the 'Inside the Episode' segment. I wish all reactors would.
I'm pretty sure Otto will be the next hand again, not Larys himself. Larys killed the current hand after Alicent expressed frustration that no one was on her side and her father would have her back. So he took Lyonel out of the picture to make way for him.
I think Larys is playing the long game. Otto will be the next hand. The King will pass away, Alicent will try to take over on behalf of her eldest boy. Then Larys will bring about Otto's death and take over as Hand, himself. I haven't read the books, so there's a chance I could be way off base too lol.
@@macca777 A little spoiler from the books, Larys served on the small council as the master of whisperers and Lord Confessor
I wonder if this is where the term "the seed is strong" came from due to the family name being Strong
i think it came from the Baratheons. Rhaenys' (Corlys' wife) is part Baratheon and her is hair is Dark in the books. And when Ned was reading the history of the houses, all the male Baratheons had dark hair besides Joffrey
@@ouandello why would her hair be dark if she's Targaryen from old Valyria
@@ouandello no i know that it was said to Ned in GOT but maybe it can be traced as far back as this event. I dont know its just my head canon
@@markcruz359 Her hair was dark since she was part Baratheon bro.
@@markcruz359 In the books, her hair is black with white streaks and we don’t get a description of Rhaenyra’s mom in the books but you can assume since she was half Aryenn that she could have had darker hair there.
This scandal was ALOT more harder to point out as book wise you can just assume the kids inherited their hair color from their genes so no that saying wasn’t originated from House Strong it was specifically for the Baratheon’s since no matter what, their hair color would be passed on.
The show made everything more obvious by giving the Targaryens and Velaryon’s all white hair then also made the Velaryon’s black too so it gets made MORE obvious these kids aren’t Laenor’s
7:58 , There are 2 ways to bond to a dragon I heard.
1) They place the dragon egg in the crib of the baby, if they hatch they're usually bonded at birth.
2) if the egg doesn't hatch in the crib, The Targaryen must CLAIM the Dragon on his / her own to become it's rider. It may be any dragon, Old or young. For example: VHAGAR (she dragon) is 140+ yrs Old , was not born to Laena she had to claim it, VHAGARs previous rider was Daemon & Viserys' Father Baelon "the brave" (King Jaehaerys 2nd son). Laena had to Claim it by bonding with it when it was already huge.
Love that you guys didn’t suspect anything between Rhaenyra and harwin💀
Laena's death is slightly different in the book. It is glossed over. The birth starts to go sideways, and all it says is that she tried to ride her dragon one last time. The baby also dies during the brith. I actually like the way they handled it in the show. I like that it was Laena's choice, and I like that Daemon has a micro shake of his head when the maester says Laena won't survive. It shows he would have made a different choice to Viserys, without him saying a word.
Laena told Daemon she wanted to die a dragonrider's death, and it seemed she knew she wouldn't survive the birth so she went out on her own terms. It's sad and beautiful at the same time, especially when it's obvious her dragon hesitated.
From Laenor and Harwin's interaction (and with Rhaenyra) when Rhaenyra and Laenor returned to their chambers with newborn baby Joffrey and Harwin was watching the older boys, it seemed pretty obvious that Laenor was well aware that Harwin was the biological father of his sons and was okay with it.
Hi guys!
I love your reactions from house of the dragon!!! the ring viserys was kissing was his late wife's, remembering her.
Alicent is a by the book traditional woman and Rhaenyra throws it out the window whenever it pleases her. Aegon should be 13-14yrs. old pulling that Homelander in that window.. Pregnancy's are brutal... Shout out to all the women who have done it and more than once. Now Queen Aemma vs Lady Laena pregnancy's death scene, when it happened to the Queen King Viserys asked if the "BABY" would survive but Daemon asked if the "MOTHER/Laena" would survive... Oohh! Daemon was going to try an save Laena but Laena knew that both her and the baby were going to die and she made "HER" choice, A Dragon Riders Death. Daemon did love her and I believe he will return to her home (can't remember name ) to raise the girl's at some point hopefully next episode. Larys is the original Little Finger...HAHAHA.
Alicent's daughter, Helaena, becomes a dragon rider later. In fact, she will end up being Dreamfyre's rider, that's the adult female dragon that scared young Aemond in the dragon pit. Not all those who have the ability to connect with dragons do so in childhood. Many of them, like Laena Velaryon didn't bond with their dragons until they were teenagers or young adults (like Jon Snow & Rhaegal). Only one of Laena's twin girls has a dragon, the other is still trying to get the egg that was placed in her cradle to finally hatch. That's when Laena tells her daughter, Rhaena, that she was 15 years old before she found & rode Vhagar for the first time. That is something I wish the show creators had included within that 10 year time jump. Where did Laena go to find Vhagar? What was the process of her riding Vhagar & "taming" her? That would have been so cool to see considering how gigantic the she-dragon is compared to the younger dragons in the show. Vhagar is the oldest & biggest dragon still alive & will have several riders over the course of her long life.
So the scene with the 4 boys in the dragon pit, Aegon & his two "half nephews" (Rhaenyra's dark haired sons) all have their own dragons, but Aemond (Alicent's 2nd boy) doesn't. This is why they tease & bully him because he never bonded with the egg that was placed inside his crib when he was a baby/toddler... Alicent has a 3rd son named Daeron, but he hasn't been introduced yet. Alicent's kids are Aegon II, Helaena, Aemond, & Daeron. Rhaenyra has 3 kids so far - Jacaerys, Lucaerys, & Joffrey Velaryon. Even though Alicent's kids have the last name Targaryen after their dad, they are dressed in green to represent Alicent's house instead of the red/black (which will eventually become Rhaenyra's colors). Right now, Jace & Luc are dressed in blue for House Velaryon becasue they go by that last name (for now).
“She’s having laenors baby I’m assuming” wellll 😅😂😂
Your reaction to the tongue cutting scene was hilarious xD
Hey, MAC React
Madison is adorable and the way she playing with her hair and the way she reacts and talks is just so cute
6:22 "So even though both parents have white hair, her sons turned out brunette?"
Are y'all fr?
I know like they missed the first 10 minutes of the episode
Seeing Harwin beat the sh*t out of Cole was very satisfying - he's a big dude! Really hate how his brother, the real SNAKE, did him dirty like that, and his dad. That is probably the most horrific fire/burning scene ive ever seen on tv or in movies, really felt that. Poor guy, what a way to go, really liked him, both of them. Larys, whilst hated, what a character. Didn't think he would be such an important character. Maybe just a wormtongue type, trying to get the Queen's favour. But wow. Alicent, be careful what you wish for
ps Edit: love the fact that you guys react to 'inside the episode' after the ep is over. I hope you guys consider doing that with other shows you react to, should they have the same, Rick and Morty for example
For me, it was not because Cole manipulated Harwin during all this scene. He wanted to expose him and the poor Harwin was totally played by Cole.
Cole IS a duchebag but he is also one of the best fighter at the time. Here, he let Harwin punch him without reaction willingly.
Do you see him ache or moan After? No this asshole Split a little blood laughing at the same time because it was is plan.
Harwin get expelled from city watch and the capital and Cole IS a warrior hé doesn't give a shit about the punch. In fact, has a hassloke he is i am certain he kind of enjoy it
Love that you guys watch the behind the scenes
Also it’s funny to me how Larys and Varys are one letter apart
If Viserys had approved of Rhaenyra's idea of a betrothal between her son Jaecerys and Alicent's daughter Haelena, he should have insisted upon the engagement and wedding . . . as king. Instead, he allowed Alicent to decide the issue because he wanted to please her, like he tried with Rhaenyra in the past. Also, it's pretty clear that Laenor knew about Rhaenyra and Ser Harwin, considering he had his new side piece, Ser Quarl.
Alicents daughter, princess Heleana, probably doesn't need to be at the dragonpit because her dragon, Dreamfyre, is an adult dragon that is already used to riders and commands. Assuming Heleana already claimed Dreamfyre at this point. Dreamfyre is the dragon Aemond runs away from.
Love that you guys are on ball with this series. But for the fans !!! EDGERUNNERS REACTION NEEDED BY FANS :/
*DAEMON'S* *BOOK* *VS.* *TV* *EVENTS*
*SPOILERS* *AHEAD*
"Viserys's first wife, Aemma Arryn, died birthing Baelon Targaryen, Viserys' second son, the first having died in the cradle. Baelon died a day after his birth, however. Daemon was observed in a brothel in the Street of Silk making drunken japes about the "heir for a day". When word of this reached the grieving Viserys, the enraged king had Rhaenyra declared heir and Princess of Dragonstone in response to his ungrateful brother's apathy. The furious Daemon resigned from the gold cloaks and flew with Mysaria on Caraxes to Dragonstone, and so was not present for Rhaenyra's ceremony in the Red Keep."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 1: Book accurate except we never really see and hear Daemon say, "heir for a day". And perhaps he said it and it was taken out of context?
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"Living on Dragonstone, Daemon impregnated his lover, Mysaria. He wanted to present her with a dragon egg, but the angry Viserys demanded that Daemon return the egg and return to Rhea in the Vale. Daemon sent Mysaria to Lys, but Mysaria's ship sailed through a storm in the narrow sea and Mysaria lost the child. This hardened Daemon against his brother."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 2: Daemon does steal an egg but to get Viserys'attention to speak to him and Mysaria never got pregnant.
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"In 106 AC, Daemon and Corlys Velaryon, Lord of the Tides, allied together for a private war for the Stepstones, with Daemon desiring his own kingdom and Corlys wanting to rid the Stepstones of rule by the Triarchy. While Corlys provided the Velaryon fleet, Daemon flew on his dragon, Caraxes, and led an army of adventurers and second sons."
"Daemon made many enemies from Lys, Myr, and Tyrosh, and he slew Craghas Drahar in 108 AC. After conquering all but two of the islands, Daemon declared himself King of the Stepstones and the Narrow Sea in 109 AC, being crowned by Corlys the Sea Snake. The Triarchy launched a massive fleet under Racallio Ryndoon to retake the isles, and Dorne joined the alliance against Daemon."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 3: This pretty much happened in the show. Just had Daemon losing the war after 3 years. Then added battle scenes that weren't written in the book. In Episode 6, they even mention the Tyroshi captain allying himself to Dorne.
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"Septon Eustace alleged that Daemon had seduced Rhaenyra, taking her maidenhood prior to her sixteenth name day, and that the two had been found by Ser Arryk Cargyll of the Kingsguard. Eustace's tale has Rhaenyra expressing her love for Daemon. The notorious Mushroom instead claimed that Daemon had been providing explicit lessons to the girl in how to seduce her champion, Ser Criston Cole of the Kingsguard, whom the girl was supposedly in love with. When Rhaenyra approached Criston, however, he spurned her. Lyonel Strong, Lord of Harrenhal, counseled the livid Viserys that Daemon should be executed for treason. Eustace, however, reminded the council about the taint of kinslaying, and Daemon was exiled instead. Daemon returned to Bloodstone in the Stepstones and resumed his struggle over his barren kingdom."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 4: Daemon seduces Rhaenyra who then seduces Criston and Criston doesn't reject her unlike in the books. There is no Septon Eustace or Mushroom giving these accounts. But Mushroom's account was more accurate to what was shown on TV.
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"In 115 AC, while she was hawking in the Vale, Lady Rhea fell from her horse and cracked her skull upon a stone. She lingered for nine days before finally feeling well enough to leave her bed, only to collapse and die within an hour of rising.
Upon learning of Rhea's death, Prince Daemon flew from Bloodstone to put his wife to rest. After arriving in the Vale, however, he claimed the lands, castles, and incomes of House Royce. Runestone passed to a nephew of Lady Rhea, however, and Daemon's claim was dismissed by Lady Jeyne Arryn, who warned him that he was unwelcome in the Vale."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 5: Rhea Royce did die from falling from a horse but it's implied that Daemon kills her with the stone.
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"Daemon abandoned the Stepstones and flew to the Vale of Arryn to claim Runestone, which had been Rhea's seat, but he was refused by House Royce. Sent away from the Vale by Lady Jeyne Arryn, Daemon turned to Driftmark, where he laid eyes upon the enchanting Laena Velaryon, the daughter of his friend, Lord Corlys, and he asked the Sea Snake for her hand in marriage. Laena was already betrothed to the son of a late Sealord of Braavos, but Daemon killed the Braavosi with Dark Sister in a duel. While singers say Daemon fell in love with Laena at first sight, others state Daemon married into mighty House Velaryon to check his own descent from power, as he had been pushed far down the line of succession and made many enemies in his adventures."
"Because the marriage had been without consent of King Viserys I Targaryen, Daemon and Laena left Westeros for Essos. Mushroom claims the pair went to the ruins of Valyria, but more reliable sources indicate they toured the Free Cities, visiting Pentos, Volantis, Qohor, and Norvos. They returned for some time to Pentos, where they learned that Laena was pregnant, causing their daughters Baela and Rhaena to be born there in 116 AC."
"When the twins were half a year old, the family returned to Driftmark. Daemon wrote his brother begging leave to present his daughters to court to receive a royal blessing. The small council advised the king to refuse, but Viserys told Grand Maester Mellos, "Daemon is a father now. He will have changed."
"Viserys' daughter, Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen, was wed to Laena's brother, Ser Laenor Velaryon. While Rhaenrya disliked her stepmother, Queen Alicent Hightower, she became fond of Laena, and the two often flew together on their dragons. With the blessing of King Viserys, Rhaenyra betrothed her two eldest sons, Jacaerys and Lucerys Velaryon, to Baela and Rhaena."
"Laena died in 120 AC, the Year of the Red Spring, trying to birth a son who died as well."
"Harwin died in a fire at Harrenhal that same year, with it also killing his father, Lord Lyonel Strong. The fire was said to be an accident and blamed on the curse of Harrenhal. Other non-mystical suspects included Prince Daemon Targaryen, whose motive would have been eliminating a rival for Princess Rhaenyra's affections; Lord Corlys Velaryon, as revenge for Harwin cuckolding his son; Harwin's brother, Larys, to claim the inheritance of Harrenhal; and King Viserys I, to eliminate the man who brought dishonor on his House."
What happened in the TV show/Episode 6: Most of the events with Laena did happen. Or whatever events were shown since it was a 10-year time jump. Harwin and Lyonel did die in a fire at Harrenhal but if was no accident or curse. Larys was the perpetrator. Neither Daemon or Corlys were involved.
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*According* *to* *Mushroom,* Qarl had killed Laenor on behalf of Prince Daemon Targaryen, although there was no shred of proof for this.
What happens in the TV show/Episode 7: ?????????
My guess is Daemon won't be the one ordering Laenor killed as I believe Laenor will die in the next episode by his newest boyfriend. The one Rhaenyra asked to bring. There is no Mushroom in the TV show unless we assume it's the imp we saw in the Green Wedding for about 2 seconds.
Even if that's Mushroom, he had no shred of proof from the book that Daemon had Laenor killed since he's friends with his father and fought alongside Laenor in the Stepstones. Laenor actually saves Daemon's life on Seasmoke.
Did you hear that? He'll have to close an eye. Which he did.
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family th0t, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you.
Nah but lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Blackcest fans swearing this time the Girlboss Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silva gif.
The question is why veserys's children are wearing green, they are targaryens so they should be wearing red.
Because their mom is Queen Alicent. You think Viserys cares what his kids are wearing?
craked me up how you guys missed the situtation with the babies lol, but still a great reaction
Viserys and Allicents girl does have a dragon, I’m not quite sure how you came to the conclusion that she doesn’t
“Who’s dragon is that” that is probably Dreamfyre which is Halaena’s dragon 😂
halaena does have a dragon , it's the one aemond saw called dreamfyre
After what happened to Queen Aemma in the pilot episode, surely it's understandable why Laena had made the decision to go out like this.
First time watching u guys and I’m already in love with the intro song I need to know what it comes from or it’s name !
I think Alicent never realized how power hungry Larys is. I think she saw him as a master of whispers and that’s it, which of course means valuable information for Alicent. My question is when he says “you’ll reward me” what reward does he want that Alicent can give? I would think having private dinners with the queen is enough but clearly not
He might be a sociopath for killing his brother and his father without any remorses but he is not stupid and "having private dinner with the Queen" will clearly don't be enough.....
He is basically blackmailing her. If she says anything he will say she asked him to
Alicent could turn in Larys now but he was banking on one thing - who are Alicent's allies at court? In the last episode he revealed he knew she doesn't have many friends. Now Alicent only has Ser Criston and Larys himself to confide in, she's unlikely to undermine that relationship and I think Larys knows it.
8:01 Oh the foreshadowing
Alicent has some Cersei qualities.
It’s so odd. Condal says Daemon made a joke out of Aemma’s death, but we never actually saw him do it, and he looked sad, so I always interpreted it differently. They write it purposely this way, and then supposedly tell you what happened. I don’t even watch them anymore.
Yeah I don't watch the behind the scenes. I find it more fun to interpret it myself than be told what to think. Personal preference.
Alicent teaming up with cole and Larys is supposed to show her desperation for Allies she’s alone in kings landing
Pay close attention to what Helena says and it's very important,I wish they had shown us more about Harwin and Laena that watching the series for the agent feels more pain when the characters die, so when I saw the two characters die I was sad for the death of the two but not to the point of crying for them two characters,you know,I think the writers didn't want to show too much of the two characters for a simple reason and because they probably don't think it's important to the story
When Laena says she wants her husband back what she married is true because the daemon is depressed and just realizing that he just stays at home reading a book and not sleeping well the daemon gets depressed he misses Viserys and Rhaenyra just that he doesn't want to see them,the daemon that we know he doesn't see and so
The Daemon had spoken no with his head but still Laena died and sad I prefer what they did in the series than the book in the book she loses the baby then she gets depressed then one night she decides to go to her dragon but on the way she falls down the stairs and dies so I prefer it in the series and more exciting because we see her bond with the dragon,Daemon loved his wife so much that he made no sign, he loves her and his daughters only the writers don't show it anymore in the book asa de fire and blood that he loves his daughters and his wife the most Unfortunately the writers prefer not to show it had two deleted scenes one and the daemon hugging his daughters already the other deleted scene and the daemon sending his daughters to the bedroom because they were seeing their mother in the fourth trying to have the baby that's why the daemon arrives at the time of Laena's death and couldn't prevent her death
A curiosity for those who watched Doctor Who, this actor who plays Aegon he is the son of David Tennant, he is David he has worked with Matt both have been Doctor Who and now Matt is working with the son of David Tennant
I recommend you watch Doctor Who is very good this series if I'm not mistaken it has 13 seasons it's very worth watching I recommend you watch Doctor Who
What I love about this show is the backstabbing. It’s so much more out in the open than what Game of Thrones was 😂
There’s almost a naivety to the characters at this point than when Cersei etc are alive in how the play they game, although the manipulation is top notch 👌🏻
Alicent is a queen and has been for some time. Going around thinking she knows the game but couldn’t tell that crippled dude was shady????????? HOW SWAY?! If she couldn’t tell that then there’s no way she’s smart enough to know anything else. She knows zero things. Nothing. Zip. Nodda. Zilch.
[No Spoilers here] In the books, Leana gives a birth to a deformed baby, is dead and she was most certainly going to die by blood lose but she wanted to ride vaghar a last time and she was walking towards her, but died while walking down the steps, and deamon carried her to her bed which is quite different here, but i would like to think when the maestor said, the child will not come which i mean he's saying that the infant is dead, and deamon didn't chose to cut her like her brother did and Leana jst took on her hands to die like that. (I'm no expert, but if the scene was like the child was born dead, leana is devastated and she knows that she's gonna die aswell and same scene as she tells vaghar to kill her or die while riding her would have been better ig) cause most viewers get thrown when she just wanted to die with her unborn baby which is not quite clearly says it's dead. That's all, great reaction as always.
The king and Queens daughter does have a dragon, dreamfyre.
It's Aemmas' ring he's wearing, I really do believe Viserys wishes she was here right now.
Question? If sir Cristion was a women would most say he’s being petty or would we say rhaenyra manipulated him and we understand??? She did use her position of power to sleep around and get what she wants!!!
Be honest, especially the ladies.
I feel like if he'd told her no, she'd been okay with it. I haven't felt like she's used being a princess to take any advantage of either guy.
It's his wife's ring
Larys does not want to be the hand, he did this to get Otto back
So much shade this episode LOL
21:38 That's wholesome, but Rhaenyra wasn't actually trying to repair their friendship. Just a few moments ago she kept on antagonizing Alicent by rebutting everything that she was saying. The marriage proposal between Rhaenyra's son and Alicent's daughter was made out of self interest. Rhaenyra knows that most people now know that her sons are bastards, and her eldest son is the next in line for the throne after her. So, to strengthen her son's position, it would be great for him to marry a true Targaryen. She also knew that Alicent will not agree to this and that will make Alicent appear bad. It was a win-win for Rhaenyra.
27:19 , She was going to die either way 100%, if they do C section they weren't sure the baby would survive either. That maester / doctor just told that to daemon. Laena decided to die the way she wanted before they let her die on the bed or C section. Looked like Daemon chose not to do C section.
Larys, The Clubfoot, Cripplefinger, MiddleFinger, whatever. But he's terrible. A bigger threat than Littlefinger. He's like Littlefinger + Varys.
I understand Cristan is mad at Rheanyra, and he might have a reason to be. But I have a problem with him taking his anger out on her children.
I also remember him telling her in episode 3 that all he has he owes to her. Seems like he kind of forgot that.
Is it just me or was that 10 year time jump to Quick....rook me a minute to figure out who was who?
I’m confused I know I’m watching this a year after you posted it however did you all miss that sir Harwin 😊 was the father of all her children personally he’s my favorite character out of the entire series and I wish we would’ve had more with him. I think that he’s an amazing father, and an amazing partner for a queen that can’t announce him or queen to be that can’t announce him as rather half. But I’m not sure that you had that because you didn’t say anything about all of those boys looking just like him.
Am I the only one who thinks that Daemon is clinically depressed? I've been in treatment for it for more than 20 years, and his behaviour seems pretty typical.
u guys do not seem to understand anything. was hilarious to watch xD thanks :D
I love it. It's like watching the Normies watch Star Wars stuff
Awesome reaction and analysis good day
Vaghar is the last of the old dragons. Vaghar another dragon, and Balerion (the black dread, the huge skull in the prayer hall) were the dragons during Aagons conquest. They were all born in Valeria. Remember when Leana Valerion was 12 and she was talking to Vaceryes about Vahgar? She ended up riding Vahgar. That's why she (Vahgar) didn't want to kill her, any other time with one word Dracarys Vaghar would've killed. So sad🥺 Sorry about the numerous misspelled names lol
Correction: VHAGAR & MERAXES were born on DRAGONSTONE.
BALERION was the last livin creature to have known Valyria (words of King Viserys). He was born in Valyria.
Loved your reaction 🤍✨
They should made criston look a lot older. They just gave him haircut and it made him look a lot younger 🙃
I was so confused about the Milly Alcock leaving I thought I was watching the wrong show. I'm not a fan of the change. I hope it was worth it.
Dang, there are a lot of comments on here that are upset that Rhaenyra is basically acting how a man does. 🙄
I've noticed that people are really against Cristen Cole that he's an incel and a sexist but to be honest , Raenyra is just as guilty as him if not more , she literally used him and even though the judgement and insults against her seems harsh they're actually spot on , lol . She has committed every wrong and to be honest they're more than Allicent technically . Also she's clearly being hypocritical to Laenor when she mentions that she has let him do whatever he wants in fact she has also done whatever she wanted but her exploits were the one's which endangered her entire family and her position , not Laenor and then she pulls rank on him just as she did to Cristen Cole . Raenyra is FAR FROM PERFECT .
People are against Cole because of his response breaking his relationship with rhenerya is completely justified but killing a innocent men at a wedding and literally bullying her kids is not justified , she never pulled rank with Cole she didn't order him to have sex with her she saduced him and he fell for it , rhenerya may not be perfect but that doesn't absolve Cole .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 I'm saying that they were both wrong , but her being the princess definitely was a factor . She has more power than him also that dude was not innocent , lol he literally threatened him .
@@rahilrameez8635 her being a princess means nothing he's a kings guard not a random knight she can't make him have sex with her princess do not have that kind of power . she saduced him like a normal person people like you really need to stop overexagerating the power a princess has , he wasn't threatening him he was just saying he knew His secret and that it's safe with him so long as the marriage goes well that's not a threat .
It will be daemon vs aemond the one eye🔥
Love the reaction but it took y’all way too long to catch on lol
Out of topic, will you react to jjk 0 movie? Im curious I'd want to see your theories and discussions about it
Daemon didn't even bother to get his wife's remains. smh
im pretty sure it was still hot or summin
He had to wait until her remains cooled down enough to handle.
@@macca777 😂🤣 So he brought the kids out, whom he wasn't even consoling..... to watch them smolder? 🤣😂 Just and fyi.... you don't have to pick them up by hand. 🤣🤣🤣
jussayin - it was night when she got burned. The sun was out when he brought the kids out to look at them. I've handled hot ashes many times without issue. Can't imagine me leaving my wife's remains out on the lawn for a cool down... 🤣🤣
@@troyvseverybody5397 but its dragon fire.......
Alicent keeps being manipulated by her father, Larys Strong.... And becomes paranoid, thinking everyone is out to get her and her children. Until this point, Rhaenyra did nothing to indicate she intends to harm her half-siblings. Let's see.
Larys isn't her dad. Otto is. Regardless Alicent knows her sons are doomed when Viserys dies. This is why she's so persistent in advancing Aegon. She's doing what any other mom would do to protect her kids. The offer to marry Ali's daughter to Rhae's bastard son wouldn't work.l cuz he's a bastard and not a true born heir. That's how it works. It's not how it should work and it is unfair but that's what a medieval system was actually like.
@@peepinR I am enumerating people, Larys and her father, not saying they are the same person.
@@MAKG435 Ah, I see. So Larys Strong and her dad. Gotcha!
@@peepinR I think so, it was a desperate move of Rhaenyra the idea of marrying her son to Helaena, that way not even Alicent could talk about Jacaerys parentage, and subdued the rumors tremendously.
Basically washing away his origins with Helaena as his wife.
@@meraxestargaryen7217 Although that wouldn't wash away the rumors about Jace's parentage, many other lords still would talk and question it and (if things come to push) the Hightowers and the Greens would probably try to convince and side with Aegon or Aemond over Helaena
Aemond will steal the show lmao
The cutting tongue scene was tough. Just can't imagine how you will react to new Netflix show about Jeffrey Dahmer 😂
Aegon is a teenager so what if he's choking the chicken does masterbating make someone wild?? Wtf?
I told you that you shouldn't get attached to any of these characters and here is the truth. Neither Aegon II or Rhaenyra are worthy to sit on the Iron Throne(Yes I know what happens so do not even try to make up any excuses for them). Also Cole is not wrong when it comes to warfare and children like Jacerys would go into battle at that age during those times. Tho I'm not supporting his brutal training methods but he wasn't wrong and at this point everyone knows that Rhaenyra's children are bastards(it is GOT after all and no secret stays that way forever).
Also Vhagar is a female and is the last of three great dragons of conquest. Vhagar was the youngest out of the three Balerion was the oldest and Mercaxes was the middle. Vhagar found out about her siblings deaths(Balerion died of old age and Mercaxes died from a scorpion bolt to the eye) and Vhagar has had three riders up to this point(Viserya & Baelon Targrayen and Leana Valeryon) and after losing her child Leana wanted to die and wished Vhagar to burn her and Vhagar didn't want to but she granted her rider's wish. Vhagar is Queen of the Dragons. But she has seen more death and she is alone and saddened. The sad thing is that it was the dragons that are the true victims here and when the storm that will be known as the Dance of Dragons comes we will all weep.
So you spoiled yourself on the time jump, why?
princess Helaena have dragon her name Dreamfyre the big one we see cast fire deep dowen the dragonpite
Daemon and Rhaenyra lost their partners, time to hook up!
Editing was kinda poop this one. Missed some good dialogue/lines I wanted to see lol
Literally every reactor ever : Alicent you mad ya trifling self had to lay under that old musty kang while my boo Rhae Rhae was having a hot gurl summer!! Slay!! Don't be hatin cuz ya man got trash D! Ser Crispin ya stank azz still mad over a one night stand 10yrs ago? Boy bye!! 👋
As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". The world in which Criston lives he did the honorable thing.
But ngl the memes are def hilarious. Men when you say no once gifs 😂. Gets rejected & starts a coup before it was cool 😂. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on Fresh and Fit 😂😂
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Rhaenyra did not drink the moon tea.
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Blood and Cheese is still quite ahead. I see that happen by Season 2. That's when more viewers will start to HATE Daemon. That's much, much worse than killing his first wife he didn't love and contradicts Daemon becoming a good father. I read another 6-year time jump from Episode 7 to 8. We'll see the adult versions of Aegon, Helaena, and Aemond by Ep 8.
The TV writers are making Daemon look worse than he is. He's now "bisexual" suggesting he's cheating on Laena with a random servant guy. 🤣 Annoying af. Now Marlon Brando was bi and I think he's the greatest actor to ever live. Neil Patrick Harris is straight up gay and I love NPH. But why change this? TV Daemon also showed he isn't a great father like he is in the book.
I just feel if book Daemon is the standard or a 10/10, TV Daemon is like a 8/10. Not quite as great. TV Daemon got one great episode (Ep 3) and now he's becoming worse and worse. It's like he peaked in Ep 3 and now he's becoming a joke or unredeemable because he killed Rhea Royce and that's unforgivable to some viewers. In the book, it never really said he killed his wife.
Wait after Luke dies and Blood and Cheese happens. Daemon and Aemond will look like the two worst characters in the series. The Dance practically ends after they kill each other although even Matt Smith said recently we don't really know if Daemon died? No body of him was ever found. It's still open-ended.
I guess GRRM left it like that to leave the HOT D finale open enough to be altered. Wouldn't it be cool if Daemon does live at the end like Bruce Wayne after The Dark Knight Rises? Live quietly back in Pentos with Nettles? Perhaps he's the one to poison Aegon II to avenge Rhaenyra's death so his Aegon III can rule the throne? We'll see. But so far, I feel a tad disappointed by how he's shown for TV.
I shouldn't be surprised at all. Book versions of Jon, Dany, and Stannis I've heard are way better. If Daemon got it bad, I think Criston Cole got much worse. He is more of a bad*ss in the book and they just made him on TV look like an idiot, simp, and c*nt. TV writers basically ruined who I believe is the best character in GOT in Jaime Lannister with that weak S8E5 of him dying from a pile of bricks next to Cersei. If TV writers can ruin Jaime, they can ruin Daemon too.
IMO, I believe Daemon Targaryen and Jaime Lannister are the two greatest characters from GOT/HOT D. They're not just my top 2 favs but they're the GOATs of their respected TV shows. I prefer the more complicated characters. The torn souls. These are real deep characters dealing with all kinds of emotions and we feel all kinds of emotions for them. The ones I can love and hate but I'm still rooting for to find their peace.
I prefer the redemption stories. Like I prefer Anakin's redemption (OG Trilogy) over his fall from grace (Prequels). I prefer seeing happiness for a "bad" character at the end than a good guy/Gary Stu character getting another happy finale that we can see a mile away. The bad characters who can turn good at the end are the more fascinating stories to watch. It's like watching the ending to The Shawshank Redemption.
Never forget how much so many of us HATED Jaime in S1 and S2. Then by S3E3 when he heard Brienne was going to get gang raped, we watch Jaime needing to tell a lie to save her. That's the moment when we realized there was way more to Jaime than the d*uche who hated Ned in S1. We realize we were wrong about Jaime. He was only misunderstood and that he was a good man. Well, until he went back to Cersei in S8E5. SMH.
Even though Matt Smith isn't as handsome as Nicolaj, Daemon does seem more charismatic and likeable to viewers than how Jaime was in S1 and S2. Jaime was universally reviled early on while Daemon is universally praised. I just hope Daemon doesn't get ruined at the end by TV writers like Jaime did. Another popular character from the book getting ruined by HBO who only want to show how evil Daemon is when book fans know he is a lot more than that.
Then again, we must remember this isn't Disney. This isn't some cartoon. GOT/HOT D are not the type of shows to feel good. It's tragedy full of tragic characters. Look at the main character Rhaenyra. Look at her aliases as a queen. They're all derogatory. I guess if we want to root for the Mary Sues and Gary Stus with the feel-good stories and happy endings, this is the wrong show for us. Just when we see Daemon trying to live a domesticated and happy life, Laena dies. Just when we think it's going good, it goes bad.
Stop with the fuckin spoilers!!!!!
In which part of the show does daemon cheates on leana with some servant guy? I didn't see anything like that
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"he has to close one eye" to get a dragon, is what the daughter said
I cannot believe they recast the entire cast for episode 6!!! Wtf!!!??? I refuse to continue watching. I watched five minutes. I was enjoying the show. I am not watching this!!! What a stupid decision!
Bro just watch it’s equally good
You'll be missed.🤣🤣
The show is way better after the time jump because that’s when the main story begins. The first 5 episodes were backstory. These actresses will be our Rhaenyra and Alicent for the rest of the series so get over it.
First off, love your reaction.
Alicent had anxiety issues visible since the first episode (fingernail picking) and they have sporadically gotten worse as the show progressed. As far as she is concerned she is completely alone in court. Her paranoia has grown after looking at each of Rhaenyra's kids not looking like Laenor at all and people choosing to dismiss it because the King does. Her allies are a bitter knight who acts more like a thug (Ser Criston) who cannot help her at all politically and a quiet dude who even though is an effective spymaster (Larys) has no political power base since his dad (Lyonel) protects his brother (Harwin). Her kids are a teenager who would be into porn and video games if they existed (Aegon), a bitter kid who is goaded into doing stupid things (Aemond), and a girl who is wholly uninterested in lady pursuits (Helaena). She is so frustrated that everyone just chooses to ignore Rhaenyra's transgressions while she has done everything by the book and goes ignored. Still, she tries to do things by the book, insisting that honor and decency will prevail. Alicent is also deeply religious as well and the Faith of the Seven (GoT's version of the Catholic Church) condemns bastardy in every way possible (hence why in your reaction to GoT Jon Snow is always frowned upon), so Alicent is even more furious because Rhaenyra commits blasphemy and gets away with it because she is the heir and she DARES to suggest that her lawful daughter marry a bastard even though that would be the best political compromise to ensure her kid's safety. She is just so angry that Rhaenyra is allowed to get away with all this SHE FAILS TO SEE that this is the best outcome for her kids.
As for Rhaenyra, she may have matured as you say but she is also terrified as well. I see many people calling Alicent out for wanting to see the child at birth but she never said that Rhaenrya should come. Rhae is just as terrified of Alicent as she is of her. Rhae wants to be near every time Alicent and Viserys speak of anything because Viserys listens to Alicent's council. Her arrangement with Laenor in episode 5 was "let us have one kid then we can do what we want" but it's clear that none of the kids look like Laenor at ALL. Westeros is deeply religious and all it takes is one lord saying the wrong thing at the wrong time for it all to explode. Remember, there has not been a war within Westeros for decades and there are many people and houses who are looking for a fight (the Brackens and Blackwoods), the legitimacy of RHaenyra's kids being contested with accusations of Bastardy would be enough for many for it to be a war. Rhaenyra knows this deep down and sought to compromise because after Harwin's actions it was confirmed by many nobles present that those were STRONG BOYS. Marrying Helaena to Jace would quell the rumors and secure the position of Rhaenyra's kids. Her decision to leave for Dragonstone is based on protecting her kids from the Rumors spreading in the capital. from a motherly perspective, this is a good decision but politically it is terrible since it allows Alicent to have more influence in the politics of the realm. Do not forget that Otto is gonna come back and with no one to contest him directly it will make things a lot worse for Rhaenyra's camp.
The Strongs are also in an awkward position. Lyonel loves his son so much that he knows that he is compromised. He got his position at the hand of the King because of his impartial advice. the council scene shows us how that reputation is now in shambles because every time he agrees with Rhaenyra on anything it will be seen as clear favoritism due to his son's intimate relationship with her. Lyonel knows he is pretty much looked at as Otto was, a man favoring his kin over the matters of the realm. so he tries to resign because it is an Honorable thing to do, but Viserys refuses. Larys is still a mystery and I end up with more questions. He sees how alone Alicent is and how desperate she is becoming and proceeds to hit three birds with one stone. by killing his father and brother he does not just allow Otto to return but he also installs himself as Lord of Harrenhal, a powerful political position from which he could help Alicent further (Harrenhal, despite being a ruined castle, has vast lands and riches to it). the third thing is that he places himself in a position where he can't be fired by Alicent because if he is accused by her (Only she knows and only she can do anything to him) all he has to say is " the Queen wished it LOL" and Alicent loses her power as well. I hope there is something else than just "I want power" trope that we have yet to see.
The weakest plotline in my opinion is the Laena and Daemon plotline. Daemon loves Laena but he feels aimless and is wasting away. Even though he wants to be with Rhaenyra deep down he knows his presence only causes more problems. We are also shown his main character flaw; his pride and ego regarding his Valyrian Bloodline. He teaches his daughter Baena (who has a dragon) Valyrian and spends time with her while her other daughter is ignored. Laena sees this and despite her efforts Daemon still ignores her. The status quo is broken with Laena’s death. I think what many miss the point about Laena’s death is that by killing herself, Vhaegar has no rider and the potential exists for her dragonless daughter to inherit the largest of them all. She did not just for her “dragon rider’s death” but for her daughter.
The episode's message overall is in Larys' final speech. that our kids and the love we have for them are our downfalls:
Rhaenyra's love for her children makes her abandon the capital, giving Alicent's faction more power.
Alicent's love for her kids prevents her from seeing the best option for their safety and has her stuck with a very scary person.
Lyonel's love of Harwin compromised his position as an impartial advisor.
Laena's love for her daughters led to her being willing to commit suicide by dragon.
Viserys' love for Rhaenyra leads the country into a state of war.