House of the Dragon 1x6 REACTION! "The Princess and the Queen"
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I just don't get why George RR Martin make the gene thing too convenient for the story, you can't ve 3 kids nd all 3 have only the fathers hair, for both alicent and rhanerya
Proof of that is Jon snow, but Jon snow's own was done for the convenience of the story
@@okpareogaga4425 do the Hightowers have the blood of the first men in their gene pool. The Strongs and the Starks do. So you can say that their genes are stronger. The problem with that theory is that Rhaynera’s mother is part Aryan and Laenor’s mother is part Baratheon. Both of them have white hair. I don’t know if the Aryans have the blood of the first men in thier gene pool. For the Baratheons, their gene pool is supposed to all have dark hair which is why it’s weird that Cersei kids were blond. It doesn’t make sense at all.
@@fizzychizzy cersies blonde hair kids were simply frm two Lannister
@@okpareogaga4425 right. But how would Ned Stark have realized that those kids were from two Lannister’s if there wasn’t a book that listed all the descendants of Baratheon’s having dark hair. By downplaying the Baratheon genes in this show, they are undermining Ned’s investigation and research from GOT season 1
Pat said “what is she talking about” when Alicents daughter says “he’ll have to lose an eye” and book readers went crazy
Not a book reader but are they talking about Aemond loosing an eye trying to claim Vhagar?
@@rexibhazoboa7097 most likely
@@rexibhazoboa7097 that's exactly it.
Fr! I was like 'whooa Helaena is a dreamer!' So cool that they did this to her character, it suits perfectly imo
Can confirm, went crazy when she said it in the show
Going to Dragonstone is a sign that she still wants to be Queen. Dragonstone is traditionally where the heir to the throne lives. That's why it was such a big deal that Daemon took over Dragonstone in the second episode.
Yes Rhae prefers t0 be in Drag0nst0ne. But she als0 w0rries Alicent will p0is0n Viserys' mind like what 0tt0 did vs Daem0n.
Kinda sheds new light on Stannis being there in GoT and what he must have thought about that.
Nobody (not even me) noticed Rhaenyra was lactating until Alicent pointed it out. Alicent used Rhaenyra's own womanhood to humiliate her and spoil her attempt to sue for peace. That is one of the most snake-ass moves I've ever seen on this show.
You mad?💚
yeah this moment is the point that makes me 100% support Rhaenyra, she tries to be a better woman by offering peace but allicant hate rhaenyra just because rhanyra doesnt follow his dad's order, I fucking hate self victimizing pricks like her so much, its your decision to follow the traditions so you dont get to judge other that decided not to follow one
@@theboy1625 🐍🦶
Why is her lactating so bad?
Wtf no she didn’t she just pointed out that she stained her dress and should cover herself. Stop trying to manipulate simple dialogue to fit your narrative that Alicent is a evil person. The most snake ass move in the show is when Rhaenrya orders her kid brother be tortured for telling the truth on something she knew she did. Instead of being a real woman and own her mistakes she throws a child under the bus
Fun fact: Vhagar (Laena's dragon) is the last of the three og dragons from Aegon's conquest. His older sister-wife Visenia rode Vhagar during that time. (Aegon rode Balerion and his second sister-wife Rhaenys rode Meraxes but both of those dragons are dead already) So Vhagar is a pretty big deal in this show... It's so cool that we can see her alive 😊
Ser Criston Cole is so caught up in his feelings it's crazy. Didn't expect Viserys to still be alive, but glad he was. Dude just seems happy to still be around, building his Westeros legoland. He's always loved Rhaenyra
Viserys is the kindest character in this show!
Viserys looks like he died yesterday
Criston is a c***. He's a nice guy personified now.
Nobody wants to talk about Rhaenyra being trash and her kids not even knowing who they are lmao 💀. Cole is kinda insignificant in the grand scheme of things
@@100EmotionalDamage
Weakest* and that's why he should of never been King. Kind doesn't mean best lol
viserys knows allicent is right but he is sticking up for his daughter and protecting rhaenrya which you got to respect . He really is a good father
you’ve said this on every reaction you weirdo
I actually really like him as a character sadly his ideals are too naive for the reality of his world. Seeing him happy when Rhaenyra proposed a marriage between their kids made me happy too. Only to be quickly shut down by Alicent. His actor is also really good.
@@iainsteele5737 i did?
Good father bad king
@@kkrmzn best king we had in GOT universe though
It’s mad that Rob calls Rhaenyra a “hoe” when she’s only had Harwin as a lover for the past 10 years, whereas as Laenor has had multiple. They both made a mutual agreement. We knew that they would both take lovers. Neither of them are wrong here and Rhaenyra is certainly not a hoe so let’s not with the double standards and misogyny lmao
Agree with you
Exactly. I didn’t see this energy with Daemon having a wife, with Mysaria, and pursuing Rhaenyra, then marrying Laena. Like all of this happened throughout a course of years but if we’re going to say something about Rhaenyra then mention other characters too.
@@ayacruz8685 Man- hoe.
Wedlock changes the perspective. Making a commitment to one man and bedding another is as equivalent, despite the fact Harwin was the only one she was with. And then she lied to her children.
But yes, by modern perspective it’s different. By all rights, she’s married to Ser Harwin. And Laenor doesn’t care.
She Said Pack Your Boyfriend We're Leavin Soon😂
Might regret that decision…😅🙊
I think she might regret the decision, but I got a feeling her rogue Prince is gonna show up and they will "comfort" each other in their grief.
Better a happy puppet husband than an angsty one lol
Harwin Strongs death was heart breaking, especially being it was at the hands of his own brother Larys(aka Littlefinger Jr) and how telling was his comment to Alicent….’I will be rewarded when the time is right’……How sad was Laena’s death, she said she would die a dragon riders death but poor Vhagar, if I ever saw a dragon cry, it had to be then….great episode!
True, but how is he Littlefinger Jr? This happened 120+ years before the original GOT books timeline.
Little finger Jr? Nah that's Middle finger right there. 😣
More like Pinky Finger
Correction: Littlefinger Sr.*
crooked finger
23:34 I've never said this before but he is absolutely right lmfao. Alicent acts like Rhaenyra threw their friendship in the trash as if she didn't hop into bed with her bestie's dad 6 months after her mom's death lmfao
You people act like 14 year old shy people pleasing Alicent willingly fucked viserys her abusive father manipulated her and made her seduce him so he can have power. V decided to marry her this young girl can not marry the most POWERFUL man in the realm your king
Rhaenyra even as a child told everyone how she felt, her husband is gay but his family accepts the children. Alicent is very judgemental yet she was going on the King's Chambers by her Father's orders Otto Hightower made all of this happen because Otto hates Daemon.
And she had the option to choose her match! Also she could refuse Leanor because he is gay.
Force him to have heirs. Or even divorce her.
What she couldn't be doing is having bastards and passing them as legitimate heirs.
Alicent was a female child being ordered by her father to assist the King. She couldn't say no lol funny how a woman like you wouldn't be able to understand that power dynamic 🤔. King Viserys still had the option to choose and everybody wanted him to marry Laena. Viserys chose wrong and is a weak king. He's a kind soul just weak
I agree to disagree Otto Hightower still orchestrated this whole thing, being a woman if my own mind.
Otto feared Daemon justifiably. And only hated him 'cause Daemon kept pushing his buttons. Daemon's a psycho and he still did everything to undermine Viserys' rule and never respected a single one of his decrees. All Otto wanted to do was send him away and for Viserys' sake, he compromised on that time and again until Daemon became unmanageable.
Corlys didn’t accept the kids, he didn’t even want to make any of them his heir
It's so weird that Cole kills an innocent guy at rhaenyra's wedding, in front of everyone and apparently nothing happens to him. Harwin punches Cole in defense of crown princess's honour and he's dismissed from gold cloaks. That's just soo unfair I'm heated
It was not Rhae wedding.
Also the series didn't show what absolved him from any guilt. But as a Kingsgard he can kill basically anybody in protection of the Royal family.
Harwin didn't punched Cole in defense of the princess honour. In defense of the princess honour he would need to challenge Cole to a duel, and Cole would need explicitly accuse Rhae(And yep, this scenario happens, read about Aemon Targaryen, the DragonKnight).
Harwin got an outburst of rage from an indirect insinuation about Rhae honor, basically confirming the insinuation.
There is nothing unfair about those 2 situations!
@@bigivel Yeah, the loser Harwin realized he's just a sperm donor with no legal rights and lost his head. Cole was just the previous loser
He was a knight and he killed a guy with no status, so nobody gave a shit. It's like killing a dog 50 years ago. Some people watching would be disturbed and shit but ultimately not major repercusions to the killer.
I agree
I agree
King is turning a blind eye out of love for his daughter trying to keep the peace in his own home. But Stevie wonder can see that those Are Not Laenor kids. Ser harwin strong has some strong genes.
she on that Billie Jean shit
He has Strong genes
@@SwiftJustice swift u got what I did
Not only out of love for his daughter, the kids would be killed and Rhaenyra would be exiled and the hands son would be executed, did you guys not see what happened to Roberts bastards in GoT? It’s very beyond just his love for his daughter, which is why he said the consequences would be dire.
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817
That's what happens when you break the laws in this society lol the King doesn't want to make those hard choices and put those bastards aka his grandchildren to death 💀. Rhaenyra really messed up and Viserys is a weak king for not having his family in check
I appreciate how whenever you guys discuss characters actions/motivations, it basically comes down to-
"Everybody be fuckin up in some ways"
It's so sad watching these kids together...how young, how happy they were 😢. In another world they could’ve been the best of friends. It’s surreal watching Aegon so carefree, so unbothered for power. Knowing the path he will walk.
i'm rlly confused how some ppl watch this ep and blame RHAENYRA for giving birth to brunettes, as if she's wilding. um no, laenor physically can't get it up and get intimate with her, that's what gayness is not just a "wah i don't like pussy" type of thing.... so what is she supposed to do? it's her duty to bear heirs so she finds someone who is loyal, will keep secrecy and is a kind man to her, ser harwin was her best option, it's not her fault the genes didn't favour her and they came out brunettes pls. she's doing it to keep it a secret that her husband is gay...heck even marjorie from got couldn't get pregnant with ehr gay husband despite trying everything (Remember how she offered to a threesome) how do you expect rhaenyra. it's just an unfortunate circumstance, which she'll reap she's not 'wilding' she has done her best to do her duties like - but ofc the dudebros will call her a whore when she's literally doing her duty
it's crazy how ppl just say Laenor should've "man up" and had kids when the man is gay. it's like forcing a heterosexual to have sex with the same sex they are. so ignorant...
@@Dizzyboot613 honestly half the comment section is saying that it's so stupid..like what else are they supposed to do, he can't just imagine she's a man that's not how it works💀
@@24sailorvenus exactly and She chose the best match anyways. Harwin was the best and their kids were amazing. What else do they want ffs.
@@24sailorvenus so the alternative would be to have sex with someone outside of Laenor, knowing it would raise suspicion? That’s stupid as hell for Rhanerya to do that and wonder why ppl are whispering. Like what do you think would happen?
@@taylormade9748 she never wonders why ppl are whispering lol she knows the truth but puts on a strong front for her own and her childrens safety. and her duty is to bear heirs, that was the entire point of her marriage, alicent would be just as insufferable on her case if she was 10 years into her marriage without kids, it would be just as great of a scandal and laenor would fully face the front of it. so she has to havfe a kid one way or another, she's tried with laenor and it hasn't worked and someone who loves her and is sworn to secrecy will do the job for her...it's not her fault her kids were all born brunettes lol, she also would not abort a child out of love, call her a bad queen if u want for it, ppl who love make stupid decisons oh well...she prob obv wished for the best, the odds just never work out in her favour
Criston Cole is a punk still mad after 10 years. Harwin Strong gets fired and Criston Cole suffered no consequences because of the Queen. How much honor is that.
I think a lot of people are forgetting it's not only about producing heirs, Rhaenyra is trying to keep her husband's secret hidden. Therefore people won't question them, because Laneor is interested in men. It wouldn't matter if they tried before to have child of his, it was never going to work. Laneor has no interest in women, so he wouldn't be able to get himself into it. Just like one of Robert Barratin's brother, he was gay too and had the same problem, producing heirs. And yeah, Robcity is sort right that they didn't need to give heirs right away since the king was still alive, but I don't think that would last very long. It wouldn't matter if they waited, the issue would still be there. But at least Rhaenyra should just have one or two kids, not three, because no one in their family has dark hair. So it wouldn't be such a surprise to question it.
But moreover, the one who has a problem with it is Alicent. It seems every else doesn't care, not even the king. That's why I'm not understanding why she's so press about it. It's not like she didn't do dirt as well, and that's what really getting me annoyed with Alicent. Yes, Rhaenyra lied to her, but both of the two did something towards each other. And that started with Alicent, she's the one who set that up along with her father because Otto didn't want Daemon to be heir. So that's also weird because they're the ones who started with Rhaenyra being heir in the first place. Not to mention Otto got himself kicked out because of himself. He was doing fishy things behind the scenes so it's his fault.
You are wrong, everyone does care that's literally why she left.
@@AaronGuest But no one is caring that much like Alicent if you read my comment. As I said she's the only who's stressing over it.
@@soradanam8160 There ARE caring that much. They just can't say anything about it because they king will punish them. In the books he had people's tongues cut out about it whenever they said something, I hope the show shows that soon so people can understand just why Alicent was the only one saying anything about it, because she was the only who could and not get her tongue cut out.
@@AaronGuest Okay, chill out, it is not that serious. And how is everyone suppose to know that, the show is only pointing out Alicent who's concern about it. And regardless if people know it or not the way Alicent is going, no one is that reckless to start something that could lead to war.
Alicent will d0 everything t0 bring d0wn Rhae and her family. 0tt0 p0is0ned her mind, and Crist0n making it w0rse.
My boy Aegon pulling a Homelander with that window scene 😂
I like how Daemon asked differently than Viserys. He asked if Laena would make it, regardless of the child. Viserys asked if the child would make it. Daemon truly cared for her and was pained when she died.
10:17 They are the only reactors who noticed that Helaena Targaryen might be a dragon dreamer.
Rhenarya having bastard sons aren't just about her. The husband didn't do his duties. I'm sure she woulda been down if he woulda manned up.
Well, he's gay remember. I don't think it would matter how much he tried to do his due, he has no interest in women. So he wouldn't be able to get into.
the dude is strictly gay, he can't man up more than he already has. You cannot force sexual attraction..they should've never gotten married
@@soradanam8160 bring a dude in the room with ya. Get it started on him and when it's time switch lmao. Or he coulda just rubbed it out til he was ready. Not saying it's easy but there's ways around it.
@@whitewolf288 I doubt that would work either. Word could get out and people would question them.
It's crazy tho. Laenor's mother in the books actually has brown hair like Rhaenyra's son. So in the books, when Rhaenyra has her kids, the speculation of whether her kids were Laenor's was too much of a big deal. But they made his mom have white hair, so it made for bigger drama.
Even they were white skinned, so they could not have yold anything from only their hair colour
She actually has pitch black hair and purple eyes(like every other Velaryon) in the book. Rhaenyra’s kids have brown hair, brown eyes, and a pug nose as described in the books. None of which are Targaryen or Velaryon features. It was pretty obvious in the books that they were bastards but the show made it even more obvious.
All of Rhaenyra's children had dragon eggs that hatched to them which is why they're smaller than the others
Vhagar is Aegon the Conqueror's sister/wife's dragon. Its female and very old but is the current biggest dragon.
“Imagine he takes control of a big ass dragon” We can only imagine
FUN FACT: Laenor and Rhaenyra not having children was an actual concern of the King's Council when Viserys proposed that marriage, the Grandmaester dismissed this by saying:
"So what? I'm not fond of fish, but when it's served I eat it anyway"
Daemon just wanted to live his own life with his family safe
Yep, but the wife nagged at him, like all the wifes in the world do.
@@Cavpal He didn’t really want that life his wife was right. And to honor her name he will live the life she told him was meant for him. You will see, just wait until the dance of dragons start.
@@meatyp09 I know, I read the books
@@Cavpal so you know how it’s about to turn out. It didn’t have to be that way, it just always ends up like that because people are playing the game. It’s the chain effect that we all know and love when it comes to these books. Allicent jealous because of the life she’s had compared to Rhae who does not live the traditional life of a Lady in a great house. They think she is just mad at her for lying to her. She’s more pissed about what Rhae lied about. She never even fathomed something like that and neither did Rhae before her uncle planted all those seeds in her head.
Great reaction! A few Daemon related insights:
1. Laena was going to die no matter what if they couldn't get the baby out - although a c-section would be a much more torturous way to go. Viserys's wife, Aemma, was immediately held down and cut open despite her struggling so if Daemon had made the same choice I imagine Laena would not have been able to get outside like she did. This does highlight a crime of Viserys's that everyone seems to have forgotten. He condemned his wife to a horrible, terrifying death while she begged him not to do it. Viserys certainly has good qualities but I don't think what he did to Aemma should be forgotten. And let's be real - a man getting to decide that a woman suffers against her will so that a baby (might) live is a very relevant issue today. In this respect, Daemon was surprisingly a better husband than Viserys (to Leana, not his first wife obviously).
2. Speaking of what's going on in Daemon's head - I think this was a really interesting episode for him. He has abandoned his ambitions and wants to stay away from politics, which is such a departure from what we've seen. He wants to live an obscure but comfortable life which Laena objects to because, as dragonriders and the blood of old Valyria, they are above that. It's also pretty clear to me that Daemon is struggling with depression. Laena says that he isn't sleeping, has been isolating himself, is disappointed by life, etc. He wishes the wine was stronger so he could drink himself into oblivion.
There was a leaked shot where Daemon hugged and comforted his daughters but it didn't make the final cut. Big mistake in my opinion if they meant to humanize him this episode (especially since he's apparently been ignoring the daughter who doesn't have a dragon). In the books he loved Laena and was a wonderful father. GRRM has said Daemon is his favorite character and I do think he's at his most compelling when his bad traits are mixed with good. So I hope they explore that further.
If Alicent were worried about the Realm and not about her own pride, she wouldve accept the proposition of Rhaenyra and this last one was smart to offer peace in front of everyone.
Alicent got 4 kids in total, one of them is serving in Old Town with Otto. Thats why we just got to see 3 for now
Facts, safety is not what she is worried about. It’s all about not letting Rhaenyra win.
You understand that Rhae sons are Bastards right? If Alicent accepted to marry her Daughter to Rae bastard Son, she would be an accomplice and be in favour of the deception. Worse she would mingle her family blood with bastard blood.
If that was the case, all the problems that took Rhae to make the drastic decision to make this desperate attempt would not exist.
@@bigivel they bastard all right but the king it’s the law and putting the only people who is questioning the nature of the kids, quiet it’s the best option possible, in the show the hightower are the only one trying to go against the king. They have the velaryon name and if they were good knight and good king people don’t complain about it like in the blackfire rebellion people want more the bastard kid than the levite kid…
@@bigivel Na she ain’t some regular girl no more. She the Queen, you don’t have to worry about the rules like a regular civilian when you are the ones I forcing them. Bastards have always been made since the beginning of time. If she shit her damn mouth and go with the plane who would challenge them. Nobody, the Valyrians and the Targaryens with there dragons would protect them against anything. Allicent is the one stirring shit up, if she wasn’t so jealous we wouldn’t have to worry about club foot, her farther, and the others who helps to bring on the civil war. She planting the same ideas in her kids head. Things could of been completely different if it wasn’t for her. The king is lacking because of health. Allicent forgot her place. She tricked the right king because others would of burned her ass to a crisp by now.
@@CowsRdumb it was to do w Game Of Thrones in the way that Jon Snow and Daenerys are direct descendent from Rhaenyra and Daemon, and how even if this is the end of the dragons era for the Targaryen they stay in power for almost 150 years later
Rhaenyra and Laenor fumbled regarding the parentage of their kids but Rhae has been with 3 dudes as of right now so that doesn't really make her a "h0e". All three if her kids are by the same dad. Also, the root of Alicent's motives and psyche is her line "but he would be partial to me" regarding her father. Her entire problem is that she's desperate for having someone be sincere to her and is willing to go to any extent to do that. She can pick apart other's doings but you'll see how she also gets her hands dirty the same way when the time comes for her, it's alot of hypocrisy
Giving the fact that she should only be with 1 and only after marriage. It really makes her a "h0e".
Is not hypocrisy when you're talking about future events. What you can say is that in the future she will become an hypocrite, but not call her one right now.
@@bigivel than literally every king and Queen is a "h0e" because none of them were faithful to one person, it's nonsensical specially when they came out of agreement. What exactly is your definition of the term? Rhae's kids being Harwin's is a stupid move but she's nowhere near being a h0e or something, she's not running through wh0rehouses. And did you even read my comment properly? Because I am talking about future events regarding Alicent, she gets her hands dirty in very hypocritical ways
Tbh in the books She always was with Harwin only anyways..they just messed that up in the show which sucks..
@@bigivel She had an agreement with her husband and she wasn't supposed to be with Cole anyways. According to the books it's always Harwin.
@@blackpearl3969 I thought the books are not to be trusted, and the show is showing the true chain of events unaltered by the maesters.
your the first reactors ive seen to notice Alicent's daughters prophetic line. i wont spoil but ill point out that its a foreshadow
daemon actually has a loving relationship with his children! the book shows this more. the show really wanted to make him seem cold, i guess, but there is a deleted scene of him hugging them
Viserys knows the truth, he is protecting his daughter, like any father would. Same with Strong. He was protecting his son.
Team Black. Eff Allicent, Criston, Otto and Larys.
Exactly.
Yes!!!
Criston Cole still being bitter about getting dumped after 10 years is every angry dude on Reddit. 😂😂😂
Ser Criston hit once and lost his whole damn mind and She's had Ser harwin on lockdown for the past 10 years even the face of death and exile for him and his kids
Nobody really talking about it but Rhaenyra got that good good.
The whole point of Rhaenyra getting married was to have heirs. Her husband is a gay man and does not want to sleep with her or maybe they just can produce children together. Sir harwin was a great choice of a father for her children his loyalty is to her. Her father is great because he is keeping the peace, He knows who's kids are but he loves his daughter and at the end of the day her kids are TARGARYEN.
They might be half Targaryen's but they are still bastards. Everyone knows but can't speak of it because of the king. Also illegitimate children don't inherit the throne, even a kings bastard don't inherit the throne eg Gendry unless they are the last resort. If Rheanyra's illegitimate son inherit the throne after her while aegon, aemond are still alive, it would destabilize the entire realm. A war was bound to happen.
@@likhitashakya joffrey from got was an illegitimate child, became king and literally half the realm knew that he was illegitimate?#@%$#$%...and war would not happen if alicent stood behind rhaenyra's back, targs together along with their valyrion alliance is too great a power to be rebelled against, that's literally why they say the only thing that can tear the dragon down is itself, otto knows this but still put shit in alicents mind bc he doesn't like daemon and wants his blood on the throne, and single handedly is sparking the dance of dragons.
@@likhitashakya Yes they are "bastards" but they are also Targaryen's there is nuance. I doubt there have not been bastards to inherit the crown as Targaryen are an old old family. They must likely keep it hushed like the king is doing now. I doubt it would destabilize the entire realm If they(bastard first born or legitimate) could fight to keep their place within the drama of the crown, In fact, it will always happen with the number of children these families have and with how they are not shy to marry their own siblings etc.
Totally agree
@@24sailorvenus half the ream didn't know Joffery was illegitimate It was one side against another. They could easily say his uncles wanted to take the throne from him but here it is clear that the children are not laenor's therefore illegitimate.
40:17 The Queen actually has 4 kids 3 boys and 1 girl she has had a baby recently that’s being raised in his early years in Oldtown and we saw the girl playing with the bugs this episode
“he’ll have to close an eye” - Helaena, pay attention in episode 7 🤣🤣🤣
I know it's a duty to produce a legitimate heir, but who's to say that Lenor actually did the deed with Rhenerya and succeeded in getting her pregnant? He seems more intent on having his affairs as well. Also it makes you wonder is it guaranteed that the children (I know they are not Lenors kids, but still putting out there mentioning the king's horse story) born to Targaryans all have white hair? Look at Alicent and the king and their offspring for example.
Well, considering Laenor is a gay guy in his private life there would be no way he would want to consummate his marriage to Rhaenyra. She should have chosen a blonde for her baby daddy, so that even if their hair didn't look exactly silver, they wouldn't have this dark hair her sons have.
Agreed! Also Laenors mother Rhaenys is half Baratheon whom also have dark hair so the kids could've pulled from that side.
Its because the father's genes are dominant mostly thats why.
@@adicusdeathreaper no in real life lol most of the people that I know look like they mothers
@@adicusdeathreaper Not all though, John Snow looked like Stark instead of a Targ
The new “little finger”, he actually killed his brother and father. He’s very dangerous
Vhagar is one of the three original dragons from Aegon's conquest.
It's the only living dragon from that conquest.
Balerion also lives on...in our hearts.
Yall judge Rhae as if she had a choice. She told Leanor that they had a duty to perform (having children) even before their marriage, but he refused so it's not her fault it's his.
Rhaenyra dad walking around looking like the crypt keeper
I am not a fan of Alicent. However, two grown powerful men started this. Her father put her in the king's sights. King Viserys selected her for marriage. He instructed her NOT to tell her best friend of their conversations. Viserys set all of this in motion because he chose her and NO is not an option.
He asked her and she said she hasn’t been telling her friend. Meaning before he told her not to tell anyone, she already was being sneaking by keeping it to herself.
@@NebulasOnyx It is a matter of common sense! He is the king. Why would you repeat any conversations had with him to anyone? What should she say "yo, your pops trying to get at me?"
can't believe they didn't even notice ser harwin before lmao that's the difference between them and every fucking girl
It's the showrunners fault tho, I wish we had more of him 😭
@@blackpearl3969 I was HURT HURT he was the only I found hot
@@nouf2607 I'm still pissed tbh..he deserved so much more screentime with Nyra and the kids. He was my fav
Also, I completely agree with Rob. Alicent started a complete shit storm, because nobody else cared, but everyone else clearly knew. She was the only one who kept hounding down the issue. Well Cristen Cole too, but that dude just became a complete punk. Zero Respect left for him.
No, people cared!
People just don't want the consequences from being them to step up. In fact not even Allicent want that.
Sooner or later the issue would be placed by someone, specially because her older son would inherit the throne.
Nobody else cared? Nah they all cared lmao if not then the new hand, Harwin's father would not have resigned and left. He knew shit was about to go down and that the consequences would be horrible and guess what? It happened 🤦♂️
having a bastard in westerosi society is like having half a child only the king can make them legitimate
@Robb City Laenor is mixed and Rhaenyra is white so their kids would look white anyway because they'd be 1/4 black and 3/4 white, but the reason it's obvious that Laenor isn't the father is because the kids have black hair when Laenor has silver hair and Rhaenyra has blonde.
It's funny how that goes over a lot of black people's heads!! 🤣
They wouldn't be white though. They would be light, but mixed.
To come white is a rarity. So one coming like that, would be already strange and could be argued, but 3 of them, is almost(not to say totally) impossible.
In the book the boys' parentage is more of a question mark because Rhaenys is supposed to have dark hair putting the possibility that they could have gotten it from her, but they changed her hair color for the show.
@@Oakland510 he is obviously mixed, but more white than him os possible, but rare.
The color tone is the same problem as the hair color.
1 would still be hard to believe, but Multiple like that. Is almoçar certain not Laenor.
@@Oakland510 There's no such thing as "white passing", you are either white enough to be regarded as such or you're not. Race is a social construct that is not the same as a person's genetic heritage--their genotype--but is instead based on one's appearance--their phenotype. If a person is white enough to be perceived as white, then they are white.
I wanted to add, I don't feel bad for Alicent at all. She talks about honesty and duty and what's just. But she in turn does the opposite. Her hands are not as clean either.
Exactly 😂
What was the opposite that she did?
@@bigivel She is covering up the murder of the hand of the King and Lord of Harrenhal. How is that decency which she claims to be the champion of ?
@@daemontarg000 She is not covering, she was framed.
She basically can't blame Larys without implying herself.
If I was in her position, I would assassinate Larys, like he just did his father and brother.
But she, at least for now, will not be capable of such a thing.
@@daemontarg000 you are not meant to like any of them. Rhynaera had bastard children and trying to pass them off as truborn sons
Fun fact! At the Small Council they were discussing Lord Grover Tully of Riverrun, ancestor of Catelyn, Edmure, and the Blackfish. It's fun and interesting to note the names of Lord Grover's grandson, Elmo Tully, and Elmo's sons, Oscar and Kermit. They are Lord George R.R. Martin's nod to Sesame Street and the Muppets.
I want you all see how alicent's honour grows, you'll all be amazed to see who is the initiator of the war
Grows? She's extremely petty and just shows more and more just how dishonorable she is. The war has already started, and it was she who declared it.
@@hoon_sol i meant sarcastically 🙄, i have read the bks and know exactly how heinous she is
Alicent did nothing wrong
@@gangsteryengec873 dude , did you even read the books, or are you ignoring all her transgressions
@@shreyakar9220:
*whoosh*
Her baby daddy is Harwin Strong.. He was commander of the city watch after Damon he was the one that found Rhanera on the street and he was the one that went into the crowd and carried her out when the fight happened at her wedding
During this, Vhagar was the largest dragon in the world as well as the oldest, being 181 years.
She is the last surviving dragon out of 3 that were involved in Aegon's Conquest, the other two being Balerion (the largest dragon to ever live), and Meraxes.
Rhaeynra was definitely not talking to Alicent for 2 years, after she found out that Alicent was marrying her dad. Alicent caused the original friction by secretly meeting with the king and allowing Rhaeynra to be blindsided by all of this. If I’m Rhaeynra, I’m no longer rocking with my best friend after that, FOH. Alicent was following her dads orders, yes, but as a friend, she still could’ve told Rhaeynra. She betrayed Rhaeynra first.
Rhaeynra took her baby to Alicent not only to show strength but also bc she doesn’t trust Alicent with her newborn w/o her.
The King is not going to admit to anyone that Rhaeynra stepped outside of her marriage & that his 3 grandkids are bastards. That would mean death for Rhaeynra & all her kids. What father would do that? IDK if Viserys is truly in denial or if he’s faking it to protect his daughter. Either way, he’s not going to actively get his daughter & grandkids killed.
Rhaeynra is not giving up on being queen at all. Dragonstone is her rightful place until she becomes queen, she only stayed in kings landing to combat alicents BS.
Rhaeynra & Laenor made an agreement to have an open marriage; he’s gay and Rhaeynra wanted freedom. Could she have been smarter in choosing who fathered her children, yeah. So I do think she fucked up there. But I don’t know how right it is to say laenor should’ve just sucked it up and had sex with her, given that he’s gay. Also, harwin is the father to all 3 of her kids. Besides that, there’s no proof from the show that Rhaeynra has just been out here throwing her ass around like that. And men in this world, even royal men, can have bastards and mistresses all day long, and nobody would care. Rhaeynra brings this up to Viserys in episode 4, & Viserys tells her it’s true but bc she’s a woman, it’s different for her (the age old double standard).
As for the birth scenes with Queen Aemma & for Laena- the mother was going to die regardless. The king chose the baby bc the baby had a chance, and leana decided her own death. Otherwise, in both situations, it would mean a slow, painful, agonizing death for both mother & child, if nothing were done.
Rhaenyra chose Harwin bc he loved her and always stood by her side all his life...he was very loyal to him. They were actually a great match regardless..It wasn't a fling It was way more than that but they couldn't marry for obvious reason and Laenor was always ok with It.
@@blackpearl3969 I didn’t say it was a fling.
@@raianthony8492 yeah I know it wasn't for you but for all the people that consider it that way..It makes me mad
@@blackpearl3969 ohhh okay! My bad. Yeah, you can def see the love in them both, when he’s holding the baby and when he has to leave.
@@raianthony8492 exaaactly when they look at each others and even when she eavesdrops, they were both in so much pain but many people didn't get It..😭
Dragonstone is where Aegon the conqueror prepared to take Westeros, he built it after leaving Essos, so it's the first place a Targaryan stayed after leaving old Valirya I guess. And yes this where Daenerys was after leaving Essos too.
Just like how rhaenyra has a son named jacyrious after her grandfather jacerys
The way I see it both Rhaenyra and Alicent made mistakes that ruined their friendship. No one is in the right. And that way it is even more tragic what is gonna happen ;) . The Blacks vs The Greens
Vhagar is one of the original 3 dragons from Old Valyria and was ridden during Aegons Conquest by one of his sister wives. the other legendary birds were Meraxes and Balerion the Black Dread
I never understand why Viserys didn't shut Alicent down when she fought him over Rhaenyra's proposal to marry Helaena to Jacaerys. It is the father (i.e. Viserys) who has the legal right in Westeros to decide who his children will marry, not the mother; Viserys can overrule Alicent and many husbands would do so even those who are not kings or high lords. (Ned Stark was unusual in that he valued his wife's opinion on the future marriages of their children, and even took their children's opinions into account)
Alicent and Rhaenyra's children seemed like regular children who play and prank each other. It sucks Alicent and Criston kinda corrupted Aegon ://
Aegon was on some homelander shit 😂😂😂
"tHis MaH sTrOnG hAnD" LMAO
Alicent is mad at Rhaenyra when in reality she is short sighted and should be mad at the way society forced her to be a toy for her father. They should have married their children and Alicent could have been hand but no she got bitter and greedy🙄
Brush rob thinking Ser Harwin was Criston in the beginning was mad stupid. Rhaenyra even said his name. Harwin has been in this show since episode 3. I’m suprised no one has realised this. He was mentioned in episode 3 by the king when lyonel strong his father asks the king if he would like his opinion. Viserys was like let me guess you believe your son Harwin “breakbones” the strongest knight in the realm is the best match for Rhaenyra. Harwin was the only one smiling at her and giving her is approval while the other lords looked at her in contempt in episode 3. His brother Larys the guy you were confused with was sitting next to him.Rhaenyra’s March back to camp. Harwin was also the guard who ran into her when she was dressed as a boy in episode 4. And of course episode 5 dancing with her making her laugh and you can see lyonel his father gesture him during the riot in episode 5 so he saved her by beating the shit out of the crowd and carrying her out
They miss so much when they get hyped up and all start yelling. I get that it’s a reaction video, but with this show and GOT you have to pay attention to every line to understand I feel like
And don’t get me started with the mispronunciation’s of names or thinking one person is another lmao
@@JDwall9192 exactly. These guys are fun but among all the reactors they really aren’t the brightest.
It's the showrunners fault they did Harwin dirty..they should have shown him more 😩
There is a theory. Larys strong is a green sear or basically can do what bran does which is warg into animals. Notice there have been rats in a lot of shots in this series. They say it’s larys warging into the rats hence why he knows so much.
Larys really did play the game. Imagine telling the queen, I had my brother and father killed at your “request” so now you owe me lmao.
This character is Aemond. The Maester of the Night's watch's is Aemon. Aemon wasn't born until long after all these characters are dead.
Laena was Corlys' daughter, not sister. She was the little girl in episode 1 and 2.
21:22 "what does he want?" Rhaenyra fam. He wants Rhaenyra. Hence the sulking, insomnia, distance with his wife, jealous remark about Rhaenyra's children resembling Ser Harwin, trying to drink away his pain hence him mentioning the wine there wasn't strong enough, not returning home because he can't stand to be near Rhaenyra when she's married to someone else, etc. I would say it's safe to say heartbreak and depression is what he's going through this episode (the last 10 years).
Dragonstone is the home to the heir of the throne traditionally. Even Stannis in GOT was given Dragonstone when Robert took the throne because technically before Joffrey was born, Stannis was Robert's heir.
Laena’s death was so emotional, but it was definitely what she wanted. She would die anyways, it’s better for her to die a dragon rider’s death (she always wanted that).
alicent holding a grudge on rhaenyra for swearing on her own mama, don’t understand why it’s her business - and talking about how her kids aren’t right for rule but they’re just as much targaryen as her own kids, she is OBSESSED
Alicent DID start it!
Yo what's up fam man this show is amazing love the reviews and pat u gotta chill on the window scene lmmfao 😂😂😂🤣 too funny y'all keep it up RTTV
But why would Rhaenyra give a damn about what Alicent thinks when that same girl who used to be her friends bully her with her ex lover ? Also Rhaenyra have this mindset that Why a man can do it and not me ? She compares herself a lot to men which make her do wtv she wants. And her having a lot of kids give her power ! The main reason why Alicent is even more mad at her ! But these two personalities been very well portrayed in the 1st episode, Alicent is very assertive, she follows the rules and is stick to traditions and Rhaenyra is much more free and rebel, so I’m not surprised they turned this way
Bro on the left is 1000% right. If I'm the king, yo, shit the hell up alicent, I'm making the moves here not you
Aemond doesnt yet have a dragon because half of all dragon eggs dont hatch. And at this time (in the show) there arent any eggs left unclaimed until the next dragon lays a clutch. The King doesnt want the younger princes/princesses to attempt claiming any of the older unclaimed dragons because its too dangerous. Better that they form a bond with a hatchling.
Edit: That being said, when Aemond does finally claim a dragon for himself..its epic ;)
They didn't explain Daemon's relationship with his daughters enough in this episode. His Daughter Baela could be considered his favorite, she is just like her dad, her dragon hatched at her birth. She grew up a free spirit, dragon rider and warrior (cuts her hair short for flying). While her sister Rhaena has no dragon at the start, just like Aemond Targaryen. She'll get one before the Civil War starts.
Criston Cole killed somebody and slept with the princess. He did not have to sleep with her. Rhaenyra don't owe Alicent anything, Alicent lonely without a life, she is being mean to Rhaenyra yet she did not tell her about what she was doing with the King.
The rat symbolizes an enemy inside the castle.
27:18 Jerry be warging every now and then lol
Larys killed his father and elder brother to inherit the castle and the title of his family. He turned from the second son into the heir of Strong family
Conceiving a kid with a gay man isn’t as easy as it may seem lol
Btw she didn't lie to jace she just couldn't say yes because it would have put him even into more danger. Him asking means he knows anyways, in the book both him and Luke were so close to Harwin they prob knew as well
the second allicent snapped at aegon she started a war
Rhaenyra only been with Harwin since she married Laenor & that’s bc he couldn’t ever do it himself. I wouldn’t call that wildin 😩 she was stupid for having 3 babies with him though. In the books it wasn’t so clear that Harwin was the father bc Rhaenyra’s mother also had dark hair so it was only rumors here and there, never confirmed like it is in the show.
K so to avoid confusion, these are the names of the kids and their parents:
Jacaerys (Jace) Velaryon - Oldest son of Rhaenerya and Laenor Velarion (Harwin Strong is his biological father)
Lucerys (Luke) Valyrion - Second son of Rhaenerya and Laenor (again, Harwin Strong is rumoured to be his biological father)
Joffrey Valaron - youngest son of Rhaenerya and Laenor, though once again, many believe Harwin Strong to be the real father
Aegon Targaryen - Rhaenerya's first child she had with Daemon, he is also older than his half siblings
Aemmond Targaryen - The firstborn son of Allicent Hightower and Viserys I
I think Aegon is the first born son of Alicent and Viserys and Aemond is second born
@@allalll1915 yes I was thinking of the wrong Aegon lol.
Vhagar is one of the dragons that came to Westeros with Aegon the conqueror, her rider was Aegon’s sister Visenya. So Vhagar is nearly 100 years old at this point in the story.
- is ser Harwin Strong my father ?
- you are a Targaryen
translation : son, even i have no fucking clue
🤣
what happened to Robs "That's my daughter!!" energy 😭🤔🤫
How the fuck is this man Jerry always fallin asleep
This is 157 years before GOT
Alicent became Cersei real quick, She doesn't care about anyone but herself and what she wants. She doesn't care about the kingdom, she doesn't care about her children, she cares about nothing but having HER sons on the throne and she is willing to do what ever it takes to dishonor anyone else to do so, thats why she is so intent on slandering Rhaenyra.
This is incorrect, she’s right about her sons being killed if Rhae comes into power, it’d be a power struggle between Viserys loyalists and religious groups who don’t like the idea of a Queen, regardless of what Aegon wants the people will push him into being King like Jon Snow was, Alicent is purely looking out for her own immediate family.
Shes nothing like Cersei bruh. You people crazy.
It's clear y'all don't get it if viserys says that those kids are bastards then they could get executed and rhaenyra would lose the claim to the throne and probably get banished.
Ultimately this story is sad because if this family wasn't royal, with the world they live in full of powerful and conniving houses and people, rhaenyra having "bastards" and Alicent having true born sons wouldn't have to be a Big deal. But because the majority of the world would rather rally behind a King (and that means killing the contenders) it forces the family to turn on themselves. So frustrating and sad.
oh waaait, i just realized that Heleana actually made a prophecy when Pat pointed out the . Aemond has to close an eye to get a dragon and when know he lost an eye for the price of Vhagar. SIIIIIIck.
Lari's killed his brother and dad because it's a hell of a power move, he doesn't even hate his family, that's just how cold-blooded he is.
Killing his dad leaves a spot open for a more loyal hand of the king.
And killing his brother means hes the main inheritor of his family's stuff.
halaena was definitely foreshadowing something 😊
leanor can't perform man, he knows they're not his sons
Couldn’t be me
Y’all need to drop these the day of the episode release it’ll have more views