When Maestro takes control of the TARDIS with their piano, they are not playing the Doctor Who theme distorted but the Saxon theme!! The subtitles clearly indicate this as "playing the Saxon theme off-key"!
I was gonna say, how did they miss this? This and the tease in one of the Christmas episodes makes me think the one who waits is just The Master, but maybe they’ll be teaming up together.
@@Bothanspiesdied The Toymaker specifically said two things in the Christmas episode that makes it impossible for "the Master" and "The One Who Waits" to be the same person. The Toymaker says that they played a game with the Master that the Master lost (thus the gold tooth), and that the Toymaker is deadly afraid of The One Who Waits and thus avoided them like the plague.
Honestly, I don't think any character introduction could make me more hyped than THE TRICKSTER! Like seriously, if RTD brings him back for the two-part finale I'm gonna lose my mind, one of the coolest villains to grace (ironic) the Doctor Who universe - and he was introduced over a DECADE AGO!
I remember being scared of the Trickster when I was a kid (and still kinda am lol) but I would also LOVE to see the Tricker return as I mentioned to my sister last year of what would happen if he returned. I like to imagine his episodes will have dark scenery with fog (reference to the Wedding episode) and him appearing from the darkness behind the Doctor as his first interaction
@@shadowstar5111 Millie just said in an interview how growing up her favourite villain was the Trickster and that he used to scare her. Russell has name dropped him a few times interviews as well - so he's not been forgotten.
Would make a lot of sense, as would mean the Doctor still has a connection to time. Honestly would quite like if the Doctor is a human from another universe and in that universe Humans are like the Time Lords but even more powerful. Would explain the Doctor’s connection to Earth specifically throughout the show’s history.
The lord temporum…as far as the pantheon goes…is the lord of time….and that’s Saturn and Satan. Yet the doctor, as the lord of war, would technically be the pantheon god of Mars or its equivalent representation….and he has been referenced as the god of war.
Bit of trivia: there was a script written for Series 5 in which the (Second) Doctor would have encountered the Toymaker's sister, Hecuba. Her title was The Queen Of Time. The script, however, was not made into an episode. (It would later become a Big Finish audio.)
ok hear me out the toy maker says "i made a jigsaw of your past" i think hes slighlty bluffing and is somewhat aware that the trickster changed history
My theory is that it might not actually be Ruby's mother who left her at the church but the Trickster, the hood, the black clock and the high heeled boots. Trickster could probably disguise himself. Plus the finger point when the 'memory changed'
@@mimibeev8573 My theory is that Ruby is a harbringer of the 'one who waits'. Maestro's harbringer had to release him, what if Ruby's purpose is to do the same
If Susan comes back and was the reoccurring actress, it will literally be a Susan Twist at the end. There is always one, after all. My theory is that the Doctor is locked in a show of some kind, and he knows it: there have been fourth wall breaks in the main episodes (as distinct from, say, 12 explaining the Bootstrap Paradox outside the episode) plus the Doctor's comment in this episode about having thought a piece of music was non diegetic, i.e. hearable only to the audience. That makes sense only if he knows he is in a show and is able to hear things that characters should not be able to hear. Maybe that will be the Trickster's doing?
Think you could be on to something there. Would be interesting if as well as the Trickster the Gods of Ragnarok were involved cos they only care about being entertained. Perhaps Susan Triad represents the Gods of Ragnarok, hence her name Triad and is someone like Susan Foreman gone bad or the Meddling Monk for example.
That is a very smart analysis - I love that to camera bootstrap paradox about Beethoven by Peter Capaldi. If that’s what you were referring to. but then again, are we living in a simulation!?
I think it’s possible the Doctor is in the Land of Fiction in a story called “The Legend of Ruby Sunday” and has begun to realize it and started planning an escape.
that'd actually be a really cool idea. Nice deep-cut reference, and a really interesting throwback. Since we just got the Toymaker back as well, it'd be interesting to get to see another realm from the classic era come back.
Unless i missed it - YOU MISSED AN EASTER EGG! When the mystro mentiones that she needs power to comand the "song of the Sphears" this is a reference (to the surprisingly NOW CANNON!) Dr who at the orchestra in which the 10th doctor breaks the 4th wall and gives the audiance/orchestra the "Song of the Sphears" aka the sound of the universe.
That's almost certainly deliberate too. I wonder if that implies the Doctor would recognise her? Or perhaps it's so that she can remain hidden, because if he sees her twice it'll expose her
@@SleepyHarryZzzthe Doctor never forgets a face canonically (except when he does like Amy Pond and the Pompei girl) so she could just be careful not to be spotted at two different times since the Doctor could have seen her in the present
I honestly thought that Maestro's last outfit was a reference to Paul McCartney's outfit on the Sergeant Peppers album, but the Toymaker reference makes sense too
The song Ruby sings under Maestro’s control before it switches to Carol of the Bells sounds eerily similar to the Trickster’s theme from SJA. I think there’s a strong possibility we’ll see the Trickster in Doctor Who finally.
Not only that,but also that the travel times are so short as to be nearly instantaneous. Of course, travelling with the brake on kinda tends to slow you down.
Also, when they were dancing on Abby Road on the end, with their umbrellas, I got vibes of the Singing in the Rain, especially in the way they were dancing.
Exactly my thought! Plus: the choreography of the musical number reminded me a lot of the title sequence of the first Austin Powers movie. The costumes were maybe a little later 1960s than 1963
I agree that it sounded like the chord at the end of A Day In The Life. However neither John nor Paul could read or write musical notation…. And that scene heavily implied that they could. I am pretty sure Paul still does not read or write musical notation and there are videos of him talking about that and how he feels that is a good thing because he’s not restricted.
So The Twist was a song by Chubby Checker in the 1960s and it had a dance to go along with it. Tarantino was definitely using that dance too, but Checker invented and popularized it. That was a long time ago and I guess lost to the ages soon. 😅 It was during my mom's time tho so you made me feel kinda ancient today lol I really enjoy all your content tho, doing an analysis on such a timeframe must be a crunch ❤
I actually noticed that when Ruby got dragged on the floor by the music notes, that gave me vibes in The Sarah Jane Adventures Series 2 episode Enemy Of The Bane when Sarah Jane got dragged on the floor by The Bane, in that part it was when Sarah Jane, Rani, Rani's Mum and Mrs Wormwood were running out of a old factory unit
Just so you know, when maestro has ruby, the song that plays before the carol of the bells is the Trickster's theme, so they're talking about the trickster when they say that "On the night of her birth, he can't have been there".
I think Ruby is the doctors great grand daughter. The doctor was a member of the pantheon as the embodiment of life hence regeneration. The one who waits is death and possibly the father of ruby. Being a daughter of a god Ruby has some power like memory or reality hence the snow coming through. Possibly the doctor opted to leave the pantheon at the cost of their memories in order to experience life rather than consume his element like the other gods seem to do.
Not sure bout the Doctor being revealed as once being a god just cos it might anger a lot of fans however, definitely think Ruby is either the daughter of someone in the Pantheon or is a member of the Pantheon who lost their memories.
Didn't the DNA scan reveal Ruby was a human? If she had Time Lord DNA surely that would have been picked up, unless she had a chamaeleon arch of course.
@@hornbeam7131 they never showed the full scan, but judging from what the doctor said about the genocide of time lords, the fact that any children Susan had would have been half human, and later generations more so, and Rubys mysterious origins, it stands to reason the Doctor is looking hoping to find either Susan herself or a descendant who would have survived
Me on my hands and knees begging RTD to bring the Trickster back cause it would be so cool and now is the best time to do so. Also Doctor and Ruby travelling back to modern just to see everything destroyed is also very reminiscent of a scene in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Where Sarah Jane and Luke had gone back in time to the 50s and then came back to modern day to find it all destroyed by the Trickster.
I’m not 100% certain about this, but here we go - in the scene where the piano is being winched up to the roof, the Doctor speak s to one of the workmen, and addresses him as ‘Billy’; given this is an episode that features the Beatles, and a piano being played on the roof, I wondered if this was a reference to Billy Preston, who played with The Beatles on the famous rooftop concert, and was the only musician to be given a credit on a Beatles single (“Get Back”). Given that music has, effectively, died, it’s quite possible that Preston would be a workman instead of a musician.
I was disappointed that you didn't catch the significance of the chord that John and Paul finally put together that defeated The Maestro. It was the very same chord that ends their song "A Day In The Life," which was sustained on the original recording and reputedly ended in an ultrasonic note dogs could hear.
11:52 it could also be a reference to the SJA story, the temptation of Sarah Jane, since its a similar shot, same colour palette and both destructions were caused by a god-like being (Maestro and The Trickster). Also could potentially be a small hint of The Tricksters return
He also appeared in "Voyage of the Damned", following in the footsteps of Dudley Simpson and Keff McCulloch (and Mark Ayres, but that was a fan video ("The Few Doctors")).
Honestly if you listen closely to the distorted Dr Who theme it kinda sounds like the Saxon Theme and even the subtitles say The Saxon Theme but some say Distorted Dr Who theme
There's a moment when they go back to 1963 where the TARDIS makes a strange noise and Ruby asks if it's broken and the Doctor then says "No, that's something else." I think that's going to link up to S.TRIAD personally. :)
I was rewatching the giggle today and found it interesting how The Toymaker also talks about the one who waits as someone who he would never play a game with
The Wicked Lady plot reminds me of the Woman Who Lived episode in the series when 12 met Ashilder again when she was acting as a highway man or something like that
You said that Big is underrated, but in the US it is considered a classic. The toy store they went into F.A.O. Swartz even has a super long line tourists to wait n order to dance on the piano like in the movie.
One of my high school music teachers led the big band in the scene where Tom Hanks and Elizabeth Perkins were slow dancing together. He still gets residuals for it because they air it on tv so much.
The F.A.O. Schwarz store depicted in BIG is no longer located there. It's become Manhattan's 24-hour flagship Apple store. Schwarz is now in Rockefeller Plaza
When maestro uses the tuning fork to end the silence from the sonic, they say “sound and vision” and look over their shoulder, in a way that looks a lot like the David Bowie album “Low” (of which sound and vision was the lead single) just a fun Easter egg
For number 23, I think that when the Toymaker appeared, I just imagine all of his "children" climb out of an imaginary floor in an imaginary plain and held until fit properly, like they just go out of the plain to fight the doctor
Genuinely asking if you meant plane? Not trying to correct you I’ve just got a migraine and am not sure if you mean plain and it doesn’t make sense to me for some reason or not.
The other thing that happens in 1925, as shown in the Giggle, is the invention of television. This is a TV show and it keeps breaking the 4th wall, recognising itself as a TV show. Salt at the edge of the universe wasn’t the inciting incident. It was the invention of television. Perhaps not just television, but the media industry. The thing that sucks the joy out of creativity.
I'm only fairly sure this is a reference, but when Susan Twist's tea lady is talking about the actress from The Twisted Lady, she says something about how she always liked her because she was Statuesque. This might very well have been a reference to the movie "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar" where the character Vida Boheme says something very similar about Julie. Especially since this was an episode featuring an iconic drag queen and "To Wong Foo" is an iconic drag movie.
Missed the reference to Music of the Spheres from Doctor Who at the Proms. This is worth a watch with Devil’s Chord in mind and that the Graske was working for the Trickster. At the 30:28 minute mark, we get this exchange: The sound of a nuclear winter, the purest music of all. Aeolian tones. Music without the need for people. And every song that goes unsung feeds me. I get stronger and stronger until I can reach out and steal the Music of the Spheres! Then the universe will stop turning.
One thing i think is worth mentioning which you didn't talk ab in the vid, is the sonic in this episode. For whatever rsn i have not seen anyone comment on the fact its suddenly red. My theory behind this is that its a timeline error, in that perhaps this episode is actually set later on in the events of the Doctor and Ruby's adventures. This makes sense since as we know 6 months has randomly passed between ep 1 and 2 plus i cant see them doing such a big change to the sonic for no reason, there must be something story related! Plus considering all the timey wimey shenanigans weve seen already I wouldn't be surprised if they did put all the episodes this season purpousfully out of order and perhpas a story later in the season will lead to a chnage in sonic which then allows us to distinguish the time each episode was set. Or I'm rlly overthinking it and the sonic will just have a new colour to fit every episode or something 😂
It appears to be acting the same as the title sequences did previously. Colour red for the past and blue for the future. In Space Babies the sonic glowed blue. That's my theory anyway 😊
Susan Twist making a reference to a character that impersonates a highway robber - Ashildr (ME) also spent time as a highway robber. Just a thought. Not necessarily a good one (I did not care for the character). When the Doctor mentions that he's currently "over there", he does leave out the fact that he was also at Coal Hill School dealing with a few Daleks (Remembrance of the Daleks). No one seems to be talking about that. Maestro's final costume also resembles the costumes worn by the Beatles for Sgt. Pepper. Topical. This episode was just packed with references. I'm sure I missed several. Well done, guys. P.S. I had a thought during the vid: we're heading toward the revelation that Ruby is The One Who Waits. I hope not. It's just a bit too on the nose.
The doctor wasn't actually fighting Daleks at this time. The episode Remembrance of the Daleks was meant to be happening around the same day as An Unearthly Child in November 1963. The Devil's Chord is set primarily in January 1963, so One and Susan are living in the junkyard on Totter's Lane but are still 10 months from accidentally kidnapping Ian & Barbara.
Big is underrated? It was a very popular movie back in the 1980s, and one of my favorites from my teen years. It's the movie that really launched Tom Hanks' career.
Yeah agree - iirc Ruby asks "did you break it" and he says "no it's not that..." and then they move on. There's something to it Edit: just watched it again, he says "no no no that's something else". He also says "strange..." before Ruby asks if he broke it
Another reference to the Trickster was nearly at the end of the episode in the scene where Maestro had Ruby caught in some music. They ask her to sing. And when she does, it sounds like she's actually singing the Trickster's theme.
With the distorted Doctor Who opening theme being Saxon's theme, when the Doctor says the only thing he can do is have the TARDIS go back to 1963, I like to think that's a reference to The Sound of Drums, where the Doctor made the TARDIS only capable of travelling between the year one hundred trillion and the last place the TARDIS landed. In both, the TARDIS went back to the last place it landed.
Susan Twist said she was Margaret Lockwood in The Wicked Lady and Margaret Lockwood played Barbara Worth and Susan Foreman's teacher and fellow TARDIS companion was called Barbara Wright. Barbara's friend in The Wicked Lady was called Caroline and Susan Foreman was played by Carol Anne Ford. I'm probably reaching but thought I'd point it out.
If you watch the episode with subtitles, the moment you referred to as the the distorted Dr Who theme is actually titled "Saxon." I'm assuming that's a reference to Harold Saxon and also why the TARDIS begins to malfunction since we know the Master cannibalized the TARDIS to make a paradox machine.
Crazy that you guys mentioned the Trickster while showing Ruby floating in The Devil’s Chord, because the sound design used when that happens is the exact same sound that plays whenever the Trickster appears.
fun fact, I believe there was actually a (very similar) scene where they go back to the 'present' only to find it a wasteland, in the 11th Doctor adventure game with amy. the first one, with the daleks. I loved those games :)
As soon as I saw the scene of destroyed london I immediately thought of the second trickster story of SJA where it shows a very similar shit of a destroyed London (both of which are rtd story’s)
And still I remember an old British silent short film, where a guy jumped on the crosswalk and made music out of it, involving a policeman, playing music on his cuffs and helmet. I wonder if it was a Monty Pithon thing.
Missed: Maestro’s finger rings. 3 placed to look. 1. In beginning rings r big and sparkly, 2. When trying to find Doctor snd Ruby she hits her large deep blue ring with her tuning fork as the Toymaker did in Classic DW, 3. Maestro end scene rings r now simple gold bands with gold spheres like planets.
@@BassandoForte Are you spamming the comments with this to imply the Master is Maestro? So the Master isn’t a Time Lord and is actually a child of the Toymaker? Also, Maestro didn’t use a TARDIS. They just persisted from 1963 to 2024. They seemed slightly surprised that the Doctor traveled through time. And they didn’t reveal their identity as the Master if that really was who that was. Now, I’ve heard that it’s been stated that the Master won’t be in this season. The Master, to my knowledge wasn’t able to control music or use pianos to teleport. The Master usually isn’t allowed entry to the world or banished by playing musical notes. All together, it’s looking like these are two separate entities.
@@zemoxian - Is your Google broken..?? 🤣🤣 Why does this small fact irk you so much..?? It'll be funny how quickly you'll disappear into time by the end of this series... The Toymaker said the tooth was the master who lost the game - The tooth was picked up at the end of The Giggle... What's more is I'm partially sighted and paying more attention... 😜🤣
@@BassandoForte The Maestro is a member of the Pantheon of Discord with godlike powers that manipulate reality. They are a child of the Toymaker and entered this reality in 1925 with the playing of the Devil’s Chord. The Master is a Time Lord from Galifrey and was last seen apparently trapped in a tooth in 2023. He’s a genius and has the powers of regeneration, etc., as Time Lords do. He doesn’t have reality bending powers over music. I wondered if there could be a connection between the Master and Maestro from promotional materials. Missy did something similar once. But that ended once watching the episode and getting the Maestro’s backstory. I think it would be exceptionally bad writing to backtrack and say everything revealed in that episode was a lie and the Maestro really was just the Master and not a Celestial being from beyond the universe.
@@zemoxian - And the Toymaker made the Master into a gold tooth the Toymaker's son found... Re-watch The Giggle - And I'll bet you £100,,000 it is - You've shook on it now too... 🤝😉
I think the theme that plays just before you hear the song hidden deep inside rubys soul, you hear a similar theme to the tricksters theme from Sarah Jane Adventures, or the theme that played when the box that makes you remember timelines was on screen.
I'm hoping the Guardians will be back, perhaps the Old One and The One Who Waits are White and Black Guardians, that could be fun. I hope the Trickster comes back, but as a one off like the Maestro, not for a big bad.
Maestro dose say Music of the Spheres. Music of the Spheres was an interactive mini-episode made especially for Doctor Who Prom 2008 at the Royal Albert Hall in London.
This episode had my favorite line so far from Ncuti's Doctor: "I thought it was non-diagetic!" Also, I thought the ending "twist" took the curse off of having a musical number in Doctor Who. I was a bit worried. So far, RTD2 is staying on the edge but not jumping off it.
Do you remember the guy in the 4th Doctor's The Pirate Planet who ketp hollering "Mr. Fibuli!!" and stuff like "By All The Skydemons Of Rathtar!!" or whatever? That who Maestro reminded me of. Very over-the-top.
I know people dont like the friday midnight release but i love it! The work week im always busy and so time goes by so quick and before Saturdays felt so long waitint for the release. Now after all my busy week its out straight away!
I think RTD has been paying attention to videos like this one. He knows channels like these are going to uncover all these connections. Great video as always Ellie!
I am Turkish and I couldn't understand that the Doctor was saying "Hadi ama!" up until that moment you mentioned it just now, what a cool Easter Egg! 😂❤
"Said by the 10th Doctor quite often" What, once? The 11th and War Doctor also said it but once. It's just an iconic phrase from an iconic Who episode that introduced iconic villains. Ok strictly speaking twice because the same footage was used twice in the episode. Also the I don't know necessarily that the Doctor Who theme tune exists in universe so much but if you look at it each it it's heard, it's generally heard the same way, the four chords of the theme, he will knock four times, the beat that the Archangel network beams into people's heads, and the drumming in the Master's head, which is all the same thing, the heartbeat of a Timelord which is confirmed in the End of Time (can't remember which part) but it's what's used to pull Gallifrey through to Earth once the Master turns the human race into the Master race.
Has everyone forgot about Clara jumping in the doctors time line and now is through the doctors life what if Susan twist or miss flood is maybe Clara??
BIG FAIL from the costume department for poor research. The costumes were 5-6 years too late for 1963 (1968-1969 at the earliest). I lived it (I remember the JFK assassination/funeral, but verified it with a 10 minute Google search). John Lennon's shirt/tie was the only thing correct (he wore Buddy Holly style glasses in 1963, and didn't wear the round Windsors until after appearing in a film in 1966). Simple web searching again. The John/Paul "save" was too obvious. I wanted Pete Best to show up and save the day on the drums... The dance bit was also wrongly costumed, but at least the Twist first came out in 1958...
Paul had the wrong eye colour, did not look like him and did not sound like him. John did not wear his glasses in public until 1966. The Doctor was dressed as someone from the 70's, not 1963.
3:42 The VW and the van in shot are both also the same vehicles, in the same places, with the same 1968 number plates, as the cover from Abbey Road. Sadly that means they're six years too early for the stated date of the episode.
Did you notice the, at least, three song references in Maestro's speech back in "present time"? "Feeds me" exactly pronounced like the plant do in Little shop of horrors movie; "Reach out" pronounced quite similar to "Reach out and touch faith" in Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus; and last Maestro also says "Music of the Spheres", like the name of Coldplay's album!
I can see RTD setting up Susan to come back for the 63rd or 64th Anniversary of DW. 63rd because DW came out in 1963 obviously. But I can also see it being set up for the 64th Anniversary because Susan was left behind snd given the "I'll be back" speech in 1964
You completely overlooked the mention of THE MUSIC OF THE SPHERES, which is a special Adventure of Tennant's Tenth Doctor at the Proms in 2007, with the Graske on the loose
i really liked the inclusion of the old woman enjoying the music (june hudson) Because the story takes place in the 60s, and its mentioned the music stopped around the 20's, 40 years ago, so she would have lived like 40 years in a world with music before it stopped
when they sing "There's always a twist at the end" it's in the same tune as the giggle. getting higher until the word twist and then going lower. you should rewatch it and listen out for it
Did anyone notice the chord John and Paul play together to banish The Maestro is the exact chord and arrangement as the last chord of ‘Day in the life’ from Sgt. Peppers. It’s such a distinctive sound I’m sure it was intentional. In the Beatles original work the chord is played to end a cacophonous crescendo… much like the chaos Maestro is causing in the scene…
You forgot to mention that coming out of the opening credits Ruby and the Doctor are listening to the Doctor Who Theme Tune on the Juke Box. Speaking of Meta, Doctor Who has appeared on Strictly.
5:42 Barbara in the Wicked Lady first started impersonating because she lost her Ruby brooch in a game against her sister and decides to steal it back by impersonating a highwayman. I think Susan Twist is a godlike being who "lost" her daughter Ruby in a game, and is now following her around trying to "steal" her back since the Toymaker has been imprisoned and no longer able to enforce the rules of fair play (the same way the maestro was able to run rampant) I think this makes Ruby a god (or demi-god) possibly of memory, but unaware of her powers so only able to trigger things like snow and subtle changes in memories here and there when something is said or happens in reference to her mother
The Toymaker and Maestro both wore marching band uniforms, which are loosely based on 1800s military uniforms. The guy in the original Toymaker story was wearing more of a toy soldier uniform.
What if Susan Twists character is The One Who Waits? I mean she does seem to be hanging around a lot in the Doctors timeline. But in that regard she's a bit like Clara during her Impossible Girl phase.
When Rose gets captured she says something about hearing music and the Doctor says, "I thought that was non-diagetic" Also, the light-up stripes could be a reference to Michael Jackson's Billy Jean music video.
Pretty sure The Master's Death Particle thing is the reference for the genocide,, since they saved Gallifrey from themsevles and the Daleks during the time war, and they know it meow.
@@BassandoFortestop commenting this everywhere, you're just wrong and "oh Maestro sounds like Master" isn't the stroke of genius missable detail you think it is
Wow. I never realized that scene was 1925. Regardless, I think it's safe to say that even if Neil Patrick Harris has to produce it with his own finances, the Toymaker and Maestro will definitely return, if only to appear on screen together at some point.
actually, the maestro didn't play a distorted version of the Doctor Who theme. The Doctor Who theme has six notes, two sets of three, in the main tune. they played eight notes, two sets of four. The Maestro played the Master's theme.
Someone else may have said this, but the Doctor's comment "there's always a Twist at the end," and the Twist dance scene might be another Susan Twist callout. Or not...
Okay so hear me out what if…ruby’s mother is…the trickster and I know it sounds crazy but considering the possibility of the trickster returning and the fact we have no idea who Ruby’s mother is and we might never until the end of the season based on those facts and the fact we barely even saw the face of Ruby’s mother and considering whatever powers the trickster has Ruby could be a creation of the trickster and stuff like I know it sounds crazy but it could work
When Maestro takes control of the TARDIS with their piano, they are not playing the Doctor Who theme distorted but the Saxon theme!! The subtitles clearly indicate this as "playing the Saxon theme off-key"!
I was gonna say, how did they miss this? This and the tease in one of the Christmas episodes makes me think the one who waits is just The Master, but maybe they’ll be teaming up together.
@@Bothanspiesdied The Toymaker specifically said two things in the Christmas episode that makes it impossible for "the Master" and "The One Who Waits" to be the same person. The Toymaker says that they played a game with the Master that the Master lost (thus the gold tooth), and that the Toymaker is deadly afraid of The One Who Waits and thus avoided them like the plague.
Maestro - Latin for...??
@@Krishnath.Dragon forgot about that, probably time to rewatch those.
@@BassandoForte teacher?
Honestly, I don't think any character introduction could make me more hyped than THE TRICKSTER! Like seriously, if RTD brings him back for the two-part finale I'm gonna lose my mind, one of the coolest villains to grace (ironic) the Doctor Who universe - and he was introduced over a DECADE AGO!
I NEED TRICKSTER
Oh hey it's you, couldn't stay away from anything with Eastereggs, love your zombie videos!
It makes sense with the pantheon being mentioned, but personally I think it's gonna be a new big bad
I remember being scared of the Trickster when I was a kid (and still kinda am lol) but I would also LOVE to see the Tricker return as I mentioned to my sister last year of what would happen if he returned. I like to imagine his episodes will have dark scenery with fog (reference to the Wedding episode) and him appearing from the darkness behind the Doctor as his first interaction
@@shadowstar5111 Millie just said in an interview how growing up her favourite villain was the Trickster and that he used to scare her. Russell has name dropped him a few times interviews as well - so he's not been forgotten.
Calling it: The Timeless Child arc will complete to show the Doctor is a lost member of the Pantheon, perhaps Lord Temporum
Would make a lot of sense, as would mean the Doctor still has a connection to time. Honestly would quite like if the Doctor is a human from another universe and in that universe Humans are like the Time Lords but even more powerful. Would explain the Doctor’s connection to Earth specifically throughout the show’s history.
The lord temporum…as far as the pantheon goes…is the lord of time….and that’s Saturn and Satan. Yet the doctor, as the lord of war, would technically be the pantheon god of Mars or its equivalent representation….and he has been referenced as the god of war.
Bit of trivia: there was a script written for Series 5 in which the (Second) Doctor would have encountered the Toymaker's sister, Hecuba. Her title was The Queen Of Time. The script, however, was not made into an episode. (It would later become a Big Finish audio.)
Didn’t Maestro call him Lord Temporal?
ok hear me out the toy maker says "i made a jigsaw of your past" i think hes slighlty bluffing and is somewhat aware that the trickster changed history
My theory is that it might not actually be Ruby's mother who left her at the church but the Trickster, the hood, the black clock and the high heeled boots. Trickster could probably disguise himself. Plus the finger point when the 'memory changed'
Could he have taken baby ruby to specifically line her timeline up with the dr so she would be his companion
@@mimibeev8573 My theory is that Ruby is a harbringer of the 'one who waits'. Maestro's harbringer had to release him, what if Ruby's purpose is to do the same
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If Susan comes back and was the reoccurring actress, it will literally be a Susan Twist at the end. There is always one, after all.
My theory is that the Doctor is locked in a show of some kind, and he knows it: there have been fourth wall breaks in the main episodes (as distinct from, say, 12 explaining the Bootstrap Paradox outside the episode) plus the Doctor's comment in this episode about having thought a piece of music was non diegetic, i.e. hearable only to the audience. That makes sense only if he knows he is in a show and is able to hear things that characters should not be able to hear. Maybe that will be the Trickster's doing?
Think you could be on to something there. Would be interesting if as well as the Trickster the Gods of Ragnarok were involved cos they only care about being entertained. Perhaps Susan Triad represents the Gods of Ragnarok, hence her name Triad and is someone like Susan Foreman gone bad or the Meddling Monk for example.
That is a very smart analysis - I love that to camera bootstrap paradox about Beethoven by Peter Capaldi. If that’s what you were referring to. but then again, are we living in a simulation!?
Surely Ruby playing the piano on the roof is a reference to The Beatles' famous rooftop concert.
Yes I think RTD had that in mind.
Considering that the concert you mentioned is also on Disney+, then I definitely will have to agree
I think it’s possible the Doctor is in the Land of Fiction in a story called “The Legend of Ruby Sunday” and has begun to realize it and started planning an escape.
Oh. And Susan Twist is paying the Msster of the Land.
*playing
Love this idea, that'd be such a cool deep cut reference
There’s always a Twist in the end…
that'd actually be a really cool idea. Nice deep-cut reference, and a really interesting throwback. Since we just got the Toymaker back as well, it'd be interesting to get to see another realm from the classic era come back.
Unless i missed it - YOU MISSED AN EASTER EGG! When the mystro mentiones that she needs power to comand the "song of the Sphears" this is a reference (to the surprisingly NOW CANNON!) Dr who at the orchestra in which the 10th doctor breaks the 4th wall and gives the audiance/orchestra the "Song of the Sphears" aka the sound of the universe.
13:27 for the record, when Maestro starts playing the piano, the Disney Plus subtitles say “plays the Saxon theme off key”.
Maestro - Latin for..??
I mean, maestro is Spanish for master
@@jennaantenna4997 - Italian... I was 400 years too early with Latin... 😉👍
Although Spanish and Italian are very similar... 👍
I've also noticed that the Doctor still hasn't actually seen Susan Twist, in this episode she turns her back when he turns round to get the teas
That's almost certainly deliberate too. I wonder if that implies the Doctor would recognise her? Or perhaps it's so that she can remain hidden, because if he sees her twice it'll expose her
Wouldn’t he have seen her in space babies although just a video of her.
@@SleepyHarryZzzthe Doctor never forgets a face canonically (except when he does like Amy Pond and the Pompei girl) so she could just be careful not to be spotted at two different times since the Doctor could have seen her in the present
@@karlmilne6446 I think only Ruby saw her in that one.
I honestly thought that Maestro's last outfit was a reference to Paul McCartney's outfit on the Sergeant Peppers album, but the Toymaker reference makes sense too
Maestro - Latin for..??
Considering that the Blue Meanies were trying to silence music in The Yellow Submarine film ties into that Maestro is a Blue Meanie ??
@@BassandoForte I think you are onto something. Missy became the regenerated Master
I deffo agree with Sgt Pepper costume, Yellow Sub plot and the excellent Maestro having a Blue Meanie vibe.
In an interview with the costumer posted on You Tube, she said she was referenceing both The Toymaker and Sergeant Pepper.
The song Ruby sings under Maestro’s control before it switches to Carol of the Bells sounds eerily similar to the Trickster’s theme from SJA. I think there’s a strong possibility we’ll see the Trickster in Doctor Who finally.
Ellie and all, has anyone else noticed that the Tardis hasn't been making much noise when travelling. Do you think 15 final took the Hand-brake off 😂.
Not only that,but also that the travel times are so short as to be nearly instantaneous. Of course, travelling with the brake on kinda tends to slow you down.
@@dharusiokay9426 Noticed aswell.
@@dharusiokay9426 yeah I noticed both things too!
Yeah did notice this, and I find it interesting that the Doctor hasn't mentioned it or seen it as strange. There's something up with the tardis
And how he brushed off that strange sound when they went back to 1963. Something afoot regardless.
Ellie, you missed one? What about Harbinger right at the end, peeking through the door, and not being affected by the music magic?
Also, when they were dancing on Abby Road on the end, with their umbrellas, I got vibes of the Singing in the Rain, especially in the way they were dancing.
Coloured umbrellas nod to the umbrellas of cherborg released in 1964
Is it just me or did the melody of 'There's Always A Twist At The End' seem very reminiscent of the melody of the Giggle?
it was
The chord John and Paul played to banish Maestro sounded a lot like the chord at the end of A Day In The Life.
Exactly my thought!
Plus: the choreography of the musical number reminded me a lot of the title sequence of the first Austin Powers movie. The costumes were maybe a little later 1960s than 1963
I agree that it sounded like the chord at the end of A Day In The Life.
However neither John nor Paul could read or write musical notation…. And that scene heavily implied that they could.
I am pretty sure Paul still does not read or write musical notation and there are videos of him talking about that and how he feels that is a good thing because he’s not restricted.
I'm starting a new drinking game, every time they mention Susan in these videos take a shot. You'll be passed out in no time flat
So The Twist was a song by Chubby Checker in the 1960s and it had a dance to go along with it. Tarantino was definitely using that dance too, but Checker invented and popularized it. That was a long time ago and I guess lost to the ages soon. 😅 It was during my mom's time tho so you made me feel kinda ancient today lol
I really enjoy all your content tho, doing an analysis on such a timeframe must be a crunch ❤
I actually noticed that when Ruby got dragged on the floor by the music notes, that gave me vibes in The Sarah Jane Adventures Series 2 episode Enemy Of The Bane when Sarah Jane got dragged on the floor by The Bane, in that part it was when Sarah Jane, Rani, Rani's Mum and Mrs Wormwood were running out of a old factory unit
Just so you know, when maestro has ruby, the song that plays before the carol of the bells is the Trickster's theme, so they're talking about the trickster when they say that "On the night of her birth, he can't have been there".
I think Ruby is the doctors great grand daughter. The doctor was a member of the pantheon as the embodiment of life hence regeneration. The one who waits is death and possibly the father of ruby. Being a daughter of a god Ruby has some power like memory or reality hence the snow coming through. Possibly the doctor opted to leave the pantheon at the cost of their memories in order to experience life rather than consume his element like the other gods seem to do.
Not sure bout the Doctor being revealed as once being a god just cos it might anger a lot of fans however, definitely think Ruby is either the daughter of someone in the Pantheon or is a member of the Pantheon who lost their memories.
@@matthewwhittles3004tbh the "Doctor is a god" ship has sailed, may as well make a good story out of it
i was thinking the same thing
Didn't the DNA scan reveal Ruby was a human? If she had Time Lord DNA surely that would have been picked up, unless she had a chamaeleon arch of course.
@@hornbeam7131 they never showed the full scan, but judging from what the doctor said about the genocide of time lords, the fact that any children Susan had would have been half human, and later generations more so, and Rubys mysterious origins, it stands to reason the Doctor is looking hoping to find either Susan herself or a descendant who would have survived
Phew! You made it through the first week/double feature marathon just in time! Well done WhoCulture team!
Haha, thank you! Now we shall hibernate till Saturday 😴
Me on my hands and knees begging RTD to bring the Trickster back cause it would be so cool and now is the best time to do so.
Also Doctor and Ruby travelling back to modern just to see everything destroyed is also very reminiscent of a scene in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Where Sarah Jane and Luke had gone back in time to the 50s and then came back to modern day to find it all destroyed by the Trickster.
I’m not 100% certain about this, but here we go - in the scene where the piano is being winched up to the roof, the Doctor speak s to one of the workmen, and addresses him as ‘Billy’; given this is an episode that features the Beatles, and a piano being played on the roof, I wondered if this was a reference to Billy Preston, who played with The Beatles on the famous rooftop concert, and was the only musician to be given a credit on a Beatles single (“Get Back”).
Given that music has, effectively, died, it’s quite possible that Preston would be a workman instead of a musician.
Except that Billy Preston would have been 17 in 1963, and living in America.
@@samrosenstein3815 True, but I’m thinking it’s just a nod to Preston, not someone actually playing him!
I was disappointed that you didn't catch the significance of the chord that John and Paul finally put together that defeated The Maestro. It was the very same chord that ends their song "A Day In The Life," which was sustained on the original recording and reputedly ended in an ultrasonic note dogs could hear.
11:52 it could also be a reference to the SJA story, the temptation of Sarah Jane, since its a similar shot, same colour palette and both destructions were caused by a god-like being (Maestro and The Trickster). Also could potentially be a small hint of The Tricksters return
Also, that Sarah Jane was an ophan who was abandoned by her parents.
Honestly Murray Gold featuring in the show as himself is so meta.
He also appeared in "Voyage of the Damned", following in the footsteps of Dudley Simpson and Keff McCulloch (and Mark Ayres, but that was a fan video ("The Few Doctors")).
Honestly if you listen closely to the distorted Dr Who theme it kinda sounds like the Saxon Theme and even the subtitles say The Saxon Theme but some say Distorted Dr Who theme
I mean the Saxon theme basically is a distorted Doctor Who theme. iPlayer subtitles say distoried Doctor Who theme
There's a moment when they go back to 1963 where the TARDIS makes a strange noise and Ruby asks if it's broken and the Doctor then says "No, that's something else." I think that's going to link up to S.TRIAD personally. :)
Yeah Russell T Davis also said that when the Tardis is skimming the time vortex in the opening credits it would have something to do within the show.
I was rewatching the giggle today and found it interesting how The Toymaker also talks about the one who waits as someone who he would never play a game with
The Wicked Lady plot reminds me of the Woman Who Lived episode in the series when 12 met Ashilder again when she was acting as a highway man or something like that
You said that Big is underrated, but in the US it is considered a classic. The toy store they went into F.A.O. Swartz even has a super long line tourists to wait n order to dance on the piano like in the movie.
One of my high school music teachers led the big band in the scene where Tom Hanks and Elizabeth Perkins were slow dancing together. He still gets residuals for it because they air it on tv so much.
The F.A.O. Schwarz store depicted in BIG is no longer located there. It's become Manhattan's 24-hour flagship Apple store. Schwarz is now in Rockefeller Plaza
I'm so impressed. 90% of this stuff flies over my head 😂
Tim Drake and Harbinger
feel like DC Comics Easter Eggs
When maestro uses the tuning fork to end the silence from the sonic, they say “sound and vision” and look over their shoulder, in a way that looks a lot like the David Bowie album “Low” (of which sound and vision was the lead single) just a fun Easter egg
I noticed that too, I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
On DWM it was explained that the third costume for Maestro was inspired to the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper Lonely Heart's Club Band.
For number 23, I think that when the Toymaker appeared, I just imagine all of his "children" climb out of an imaginary floor in an imaginary plain and held until fit properly, like they just go out of the plain to fight the doctor
Genuinely asking if you meant plane? Not trying to correct you I’ve just got a migraine and am not sure if you mean plain and it doesn’t make sense to me for some reason or not.
@@katrose5179 plane? Plain? I don't know how to spell, I mean an area of land
There also is a screech from the beginning of the Goblin song twice in the final music number.
The other thing that happens in 1925, as shown in the Giggle, is the invention of television.
This is a TV show and it keeps breaking the 4th wall, recognising itself as a TV show.
Salt at the edge of the universe wasn’t the inciting incident. It was the invention of television.
Perhaps not just television, but the media industry. The thing that sucks the joy out of creativity.
I'm only fairly sure this is a reference, but when Susan Twist's tea lady is talking about the actress from The Twisted Lady, she says something about how she always liked her because she was Statuesque.
This might very well have been a reference to the movie "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar" where the character Vida Boheme says something very similar about Julie.
Especially since this was an episode featuring an iconic drag queen and "To Wong Foo" is an iconic drag movie.
Missed the reference to Music of the Spheres from Doctor Who at the Proms. This is worth a watch with Devil’s Chord in mind and that the Graske was working for the Trickster.
At the 30:28 minute mark, we get this exchange:
The sound of a nuclear winter, the purest music of all.
Aeolian tones. Music without the need for people.
And every song that goes unsung feeds me. I get stronger and stronger until I can reach out and steal the Music of the Spheres! Then the universe will stop turning.
Also referencing Delia Derbyshire’s Music of the spheres (1973).
One thing i think is worth mentioning which you didn't talk ab in the vid, is the sonic in this episode. For whatever rsn i have not seen anyone comment on the fact its suddenly red. My theory behind this is that its a timeline error, in that perhaps this episode is actually set later on in the events of the Doctor and Ruby's adventures. This makes sense since as we know 6 months has randomly passed between ep 1 and 2 plus i cant see them doing such a big change to the sonic for no reason, there must be something story related! Plus considering all the timey wimey shenanigans weve seen already I wouldn't be surprised if they did put all the episodes this season purpousfully out of order and perhpas a story later in the season will lead to a chnage in sonic which then allows us to distinguish the time each episode was set. Or I'm rlly overthinking it and the sonic will just have a new colour to fit every episode or something 😂
It appears to be acting the same as the title sequences did previously. Colour red for the past and blue for the future. In Space Babies the sonic glowed blue. That's my theory anyway 😊
The Sonic changes colour depending on whether it is in the past present or future, like 14s Tee. RED in the past Blue in the present and future.
Susan Twist making a reference to a character that impersonates a highway robber - Ashildr (ME) also spent time as a highway robber. Just a thought. Not necessarily a good one (I did not care for the character).
When the Doctor mentions that he's currently "over there", he does leave out the fact that he was also at Coal Hill School dealing with a few Daleks (Remembrance of the Daleks). No one seems to be talking about that.
Maestro's final costume also resembles the costumes worn by the Beatles for Sgt. Pepper. Topical.
This episode was just packed with references. I'm sure I missed several. Well done, guys.
P.S. I had a thought during the vid: we're heading toward the revelation that Ruby is The One Who Waits. I hope not. It's just a bit too on the nose.
The doctor wasn't actually fighting Daleks at this time.
The episode Remembrance of the Daleks was meant to be happening around the same day as An Unearthly Child in November 1963. The Devil's Chord is set primarily in January 1963, so One and Susan are living in the junkyard on Totter's Lane but are still 10 months from accidentally kidnapping Ian & Barbara.
Big is underrated? It was a very popular movie back in the 1980s, and one of my favorites from my teen years. It's the movie that really launched Tom Hanks' career.
Probably under rated in the UK. More of an American classic movie.
The doctor looking back at the Tardis before changing his mind caught my eye. I felt I missed something there.
Yeah agree - iirc Ruby asks "did you break it" and he says "no it's not that..." and then they move on. There's something to it
Edit: just watched it again, he says "no no no that's something else". He also says "strange..." before Ruby asks if he broke it
@@SleepyHarryZzz Yes thank you. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Another reference to the Trickster was nearly at the end of the episode in the scene where Maestro had Ruby caught in some music. They ask her to sing. And when she does, it sounds like she's actually singing the Trickster's theme.
With the distorted Doctor Who opening theme being Saxon's theme, when the Doctor says the only thing he can do is have the TARDIS go back to 1963, I like to think that's a reference to The Sound of Drums, where the Doctor made the TARDIS only capable of travelling between the year one hundred trillion and the last place the TARDIS landed. In both, the TARDIS went back to the last place it landed.
The tardis only goes off its rocker when the saxon theme because its got ptsd of when it was cnabalised into a paradox machine
Susan Twist said she was Margaret Lockwood in The Wicked Lady and Margaret Lockwood played Barbara Worth and Susan Foreman's teacher and fellow TARDIS companion was called Barbara Wright. Barbara's friend in The Wicked Lady was called Caroline and Susan Foreman was played by Carol Anne Ford. I'm probably reaching but thought I'd point it out.
I do hope Jinkx remembered to brush and floss after chewing all that scenery
If you watch the episode with subtitles, the moment you referred to as the the distorted Dr Who theme is actually titled "Saxon." I'm assuming that's a reference to Harold Saxon and also why the TARDIS begins to malfunction since we know the Master cannibalized the TARDIS to make a paradox machine.
Crazy that you guys mentioned the Trickster while showing Ruby floating in The Devil’s Chord, because the sound design used when that happens is the exact same sound that plays whenever the Trickster appears.
Marina Sirtis was in the 1983 remake of Wicked Lady
fun fact, I believe there was actually a (very similar) scene where they go back to the 'present' only to find it a wasteland, in the 11th Doctor adventure game with amy. the first one, with the daleks. I loved those games :)
As soon as I saw the scene of destroyed london I immediately thought of the second trickster story of SJA where it shows a very similar shit of a destroyed London (both of which are rtd story’s)
One easter egg you missed, was Harbenger reappeared again just when he came out the door after the devils cord
Came here to say this!
Loved this episode a good start to introduce the toymakers legion and the bar can only get higher
And still I remember an old British silent short film, where a guy jumped on the crosswalk and made music out of it, involving a policeman, playing music on his cuffs and helmet. I wonder if it was a Monty Pithon thing.
Missed: Maestro’s finger rings. 3 placed to look. 1. In beginning rings r big and sparkly, 2. When trying to find Doctor snd Ruby she hits her large deep blue ring with her tuning fork as the Toymaker did in Classic DW, 3. Maestro end scene rings r now simple gold bands with gold spheres like planets.
4 - Maestro, Latin for..?? 😉
@@BassandoForte
Are you spamming the comments with this to imply the Master is Maestro? So the Master isn’t a Time Lord and is actually a child of the Toymaker? Also, Maestro didn’t use a TARDIS. They just persisted from 1963 to 2024. They seemed slightly surprised that the Doctor traveled through time. And they didn’t reveal their identity as the Master if that really was who that was.
Now, I’ve heard that it’s been stated that the Master won’t be in this season. The Master, to my knowledge wasn’t able to control music or use pianos to teleport. The Master usually isn’t allowed entry to the world or banished by playing musical notes.
All together, it’s looking like these are two separate entities.
@@zemoxian - Is your Google broken..?? 🤣🤣
Why does this small fact irk you so much..??
It'll be funny how quickly you'll disappear into time by the end of this series...
The Toymaker said the tooth was the master who lost the game - The tooth was picked up at the end of The Giggle...
What's more is I'm partially sighted and paying more attention... 😜🤣
@@BassandoForte
The Maestro is a member of the Pantheon of Discord with godlike powers that manipulate reality. They are a child of the Toymaker and entered this reality in 1925 with the playing of the Devil’s Chord.
The Master is a Time Lord from Galifrey and was last seen apparently trapped in a tooth in 2023. He’s a genius and has the powers of regeneration, etc., as Time Lords do. He doesn’t have reality bending powers over music.
I wondered if there could be a connection between the Master and Maestro from promotional materials. Missy did something similar once. But that ended once watching the episode and getting the Maestro’s backstory.
I think it would be exceptionally bad writing to backtrack and say everything revealed in that episode was a lie and the Maestro really was just the Master and not a Celestial being from beyond the universe.
@@zemoxian - And the Toymaker made the Master into a gold tooth the Toymaker's son found...
Re-watch The Giggle - And I'll bet you £100,,000 it is - You've shook on it now too... 🤝😉
I think the theme that plays just before you hear the song hidden deep inside rubys soul, you hear a similar theme to the tricksters theme from Sarah Jane Adventures, or the theme that played when the box that makes you remember timelines was on screen.
I'm hoping the Guardians will be back, perhaps the Old One and The One Who Waits are White and Black Guardians, that could be fun.
I hope the Trickster comes back, but as a one off like the Maestro, not for a big bad.
I was just happy to see Johannes & Jinkx Monsoon was fantastic loved all the easter eggs & call backs
Maestro dose say Music of the Spheres.
Music of the Spheres was an interactive mini-episode made especially for Doctor Who Prom 2008 at the Royal Albert Hall in London.
This episode had my favorite line so far from Ncuti's Doctor:
"I thought it was non-diagetic!"
Also, I thought the ending "twist" took the curse off of having a musical number in Doctor Who. I was a bit worried. So far, RTD2 is staying on the edge but not jumping off it.
Do you remember the guy in the 4th Doctor's The Pirate Planet who ketp hollering "Mr. Fibuli!!" and stuff like "By All The Skydemons Of Rathtar!!" or whatever? That who Maestro reminded me of. Very over-the-top.
I know people dont like the friday midnight release but i love it! The work week im always busy and so time goes by so quick and before Saturdays felt so long waitint for the release. Now after all my busy week its out straight away!
No one noticed at the end of the episode that "there's always a twist at the end" is based on the toy makers arpegio as well as the giggle
I think RTD has been paying attention to videos like this one. He knows channels like these are going to uncover all these connections. Great video as always Ellie!
I think RTD is just putting in stuff to get the conspiracies going.
if i'm not mistaken, the chord played by john and paul on the abbey road piano, is the one at the end of a day in the life...
The Beatles' song "I've got a dog" is a subtle reference to the Beatles classic "It's Okay to Leave your Dog in a Hot Car."
I am Turkish and I couldn't understand that the Doctor was saying "Hadi ama!" up until that moment you mentioned it just now, what a cool Easter Egg! 😂❤
"Said by the 10th Doctor quite often" What, once? The 11th and War Doctor also said it but once. It's just an iconic phrase from an iconic Who episode that introduced iconic villains. Ok strictly speaking twice because the same footage was used twice in the episode. Also the I don't know necessarily that the Doctor Who theme tune exists in universe so much but if you look at it each it it's heard, it's generally heard the same way, the four chords of the theme, he will knock four times, the beat that the Archangel network beams into people's heads, and the drumming in the Master's head, which is all the same thing, the heartbeat of a Timelord which is confirmed in the End of Time (can't remember which part) but it's what's used to pull Gallifrey through to Earth once the Master turns the human race into the Master race.
Has everyone forgot about Clara jumping in the doctors time line and now is through the doctors life what if Susan twist or miss flood is maybe Clara??
BIG FAIL from the costume department for poor research. The costumes were 5-6 years too late for 1963 (1968-1969 at the earliest). I lived it (I remember the JFK assassination/funeral, but verified it with a 10 minute Google search). John Lennon's shirt/tie was the only thing correct (he wore Buddy Holly style glasses in 1963, and didn't wear the round Windsors until after appearing in a film in 1966). Simple web searching again.
The John/Paul "save" was too obvious. I wanted Pete Best to show up and save the day on the drums...
The dance bit was also wrongly costumed, but at least the Twist first came out in 1958...
Paul had the wrong eye colour, did not look like him and did not sound like him. John did not wear his glasses in public until 1966. The Doctor was dressed as someone from the 70's, not 1963.
Also, I don't know if you noticed, but the main melody of the "there's always a twist at the end" melody is the same melody as the giggle laugh
3:42 The VW and the van in shot are both also the same vehicles, in the same places, with the same 1968 number plates, as the cover from Abbey Road. Sadly that means they're six years too early for the stated date of the episode.
Did you notice the, at least, three song references in Maestro's speech back in "present time"?
"Feeds me" exactly pronounced like the plant do in Little shop of horrors movie; "Reach out" pronounced quite similar to "Reach out and touch faith" in Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus; and last Maestro also says "Music of the Spheres", like the name of Coldplay's album!
I can see RTD setting up Susan to come back for the 63rd or 64th Anniversary of DW. 63rd because DW came out in 1963 obviously. But I can also see it being set up for the 64th Anniversary because Susan was left behind snd given the "I'll be back" speech in 1964
You completely overlooked the mention of THE MUSIC OF THE SPHERES, which is a special Adventure of Tennant's Tenth Doctor at the Proms in 2007, with the Graske on the loose
i really liked the inclusion of the old woman enjoying the music (june hudson)
Because the story takes place in the 60s, and its mentioned the music stopped around the 20's, 40 years ago, so she would have lived like 40 years in a world with music before it stopped
when they sing "There's always a twist at the end" it's in the same tune as the giggle. getting higher until the word twist and then going lower. you should rewatch it and listen out for it
I'm convinced this episode exists within its own separate cannon
Did anyone notice the chord John and Paul play together to banish The Maestro is the exact chord and arrangement as the last chord of ‘Day in the life’ from Sgt. Peppers. It’s such a distinctive sound I’m sure it was intentional. In the Beatles original work the chord is played to end a cacophonous crescendo… much like the chaos Maestro is causing in the scene…
You forgot to mention that coming out of the opening credits Ruby and the Doctor are listening to the Doctor Who Theme Tune on the Juke Box. Speaking of Meta, Doctor Who has appeared on Strictly.
Also, the tune for the musical number at the end is to the tune of the Giggle.
5:42 Barbara in the Wicked Lady first started impersonating because she lost her Ruby brooch in a game against her sister and decides to steal it back by impersonating a highwayman.
I think Susan Twist is a godlike being who "lost" her daughter Ruby in a game, and is now following her around trying to "steal" her back since the Toymaker has been imprisoned and no longer able to enforce the rules of fair play (the same way the maestro was able to run rampant)
I think this makes Ruby a god (or demi-god) possibly of memory, but unaware of her powers so only able to trigger things like snow and subtle changes in memories here and there when something is said or happens in reference to her mother
The Toymaker and Maestro both wore marching band uniforms, which are loosely based on 1800s military uniforms. The guy in the original Toymaker story was wearing more of a toy soldier uniform.
What if Susan Twists character is The One Who Waits? I mean she does seem to be hanging around a lot in the Doctors timeline. But in that regard she's a bit like Clara during her Impossible Girl phase.
I love Ruby’s 60’s outfit- so mod!
My guess is that the spaceship adventure from Wild Blue Yonder happened in 1925 Earth Time.
Agree, that's my working theory atm.
When Rose gets captured she says something about hearing music and the Doctor says, "I thought that was non-diagetic"
Also, the light-up stripes could be a reference to Michael Jackson's Billy Jean music video.
So... the Doctor just happens to have 'adopted' yet *another* very universally significant companion. Sigh.
Oh, sweet summer child, to hear a choreographer talk about John Travolta's dancing and instantly think of "Pulp Fiction!" (-;
Pretty sure The Master's Death Particle thing is the reference for the genocide,, since they saved Gallifrey from themsevles and the Daleks during the time war, and they know it meow.
Look up what Maestro means in English... 👍
@@BassandoFortestop commenting this everywhere, you're just wrong and "oh Maestro sounds like Master" isn't the stroke of genius missable detail you think it is
Red@@SleepyHarryZzz - Sounds like..?? Don't you know how to use Google translate free speech lover..?? 🙃🤣🤣
Wow. I never realized that scene was 1925. Regardless, I think it's safe to say that even if Neil Patrick Harris has to produce it with his own finances, the Toymaker and Maestro will definitely return, if only to appear on screen together at some point.
You missed that the melody "There's Always a Twist in the End" contains the giggle.
actually, the maestro didn't play a distorted version of the Doctor Who theme. The Doctor Who theme has six notes, two sets of three, in the main tune. they played eight notes, two sets of four. The Maestro played the Master's theme.
Someone else may have said this, but the Doctor's comment "there's always a Twist at the end," and the Twist dance scene might be another Susan Twist callout. Or not...
Okay so hear me out what if…ruby’s mother is…the trickster and I know it sounds crazy but considering the possibility of the trickster returning and the fact we have no idea who Ruby’s mother is and we might never until the end of the season based on those facts and the fact we barely even saw the face of Ruby’s mother and considering whatever powers the trickster has Ruby could be a creation of the trickster and stuff like I know it sounds crazy but it could work