What do you think of the direction of IWC's pricing now that there's context on how they got there? Would you prefer to buy a new or a pre-owned IWC watch and which one would you get? Let me know what you think in the comments section.
The pricing, at the level it's at, has nothing to do with production cost, or attention to details, but all to do with marketing. That's the only way you can rationalize a steel Ingenieur being almost double the price of the Mark XX, which has the exact same movement, and a significantly better clasp (made by Brogioli, who provide the same clasp to A.L&S for its Odyseeus and GO for the SeaQ). They noticed the integrated bracelet craze, saw a competitive field (Girard Perregaux Laureato, Chopard Alpine Eagle etc.) that was well above USD 10k, realized that they had a model with its roots in a Gerald Genta design, and priced the Ingenieur accordingly. I, for one, would pick the Mark XX over the Ingenieur any day of the week, especially considering the difference in price. It's also the best pilot model they have come up with since the Mark XV.
I had a subby and a Seadweller. Now I have 2 X Aquatimers instead. Just aesthetically nicer imo, and far more legible pieces. I'm a big fan at preowned prices though.
It's a tough choice, both are iconic pilot watches and both have modern iterations with uprated movments or neo-vintage models with 7750s for crazy good value. I guess the big deciding factor is the information overload from all the scales on the Navitimer, or the cleaner look of the Pilot's Watch, but both are great watches with tons of fun dial, bracelet and movement variaitons (though when it comes to bracelets the IWC wins hands down)
I'd love to do that comparison, I just need to get my hands on the right Navitimer for it - the few times I've had a chance its usually one of the ETA 2892 based ones, personally I'd rather feature one of the 7750 or B01 based Navitimers so it's a proper comparison to the older Pilots or the current ones respectively, but it's definitely a review that's on my to-do list once I get a chance to shoot the Navitimer.
#savage 😂 and yeah id love to do a feature about the in house movements vs the work they put into rebuilding 7750s before they went in house - from what I understand IWC was one of the few mainstream brands that was doing proper modifications to their ETAs instead of just dropping them in with a branded rotor and calling it a day 😅
Lol. “Why are watches going up in price?” It’s called inflation, coupled with currency debasement, i.e. printing money out of thin air. Piece of advice - buy bitcoin and thank me later.
What do you think of the direction of IWC's pricing now that there's context on how they got there? Would you prefer to buy a new or a pre-owned IWC watch and which one would you get? Let me know what you think in the comments section.
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The pricing, at the level it's at, has nothing to do with production cost, or attention to details, but all to do with marketing. That's the only way you can rationalize a steel Ingenieur being almost double the price of the Mark XX, which has the exact same movement, and a significantly better clasp (made by Brogioli, who provide the same clasp to A.L&S for its Odyseeus and GO for the SeaQ). They noticed the integrated bracelet craze, saw a competitive field (Girard Perregaux Laureato, Chopard Alpine Eagle etc.) that was well above USD 10k, realized that they had a model with its roots in a Gerald Genta design, and priced the Ingenieur accordingly. I, for one, would pick the Mark XX over the Ingenieur any day of the week, especially considering the difference in price. It's also the best pilot model they have come up with since the Mark XV.
I had a subby and a Seadweller. Now I have 2 X Aquatimers instead. Just aesthetically nicer imo, and far more legible pieces.
I'm a big fan at preowned prices though.
True, the Aquatimers are supremely legible - and carry so much of that insane level of over-engineering from IWC :D
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Interesting I’m having a challenge to decide between the IWC pilot or Breitling Navitimer
It's a tough choice, both are iconic pilot watches and both have modern iterations with uprated movments or neo-vintage models with 7750s for crazy good value. I guess the big deciding factor is the information overload from all the scales on the Navitimer, or the cleaner look of the Pilot's Watch, but both are great watches with tons of fun dial, bracelet and movement variaitons (though when it comes to bracelets the IWC wins hands down)
@ShahLusso think you should do a video a comparison for both watches , they both are 41mm, both are chronograph, this would be exciting to watch
I'd love to do that comparison, I just need to get my hands on the right Navitimer for it - the few times I've had a chance its usually one of the ETA 2892 based ones, personally I'd rather feature one of the 7750 or B01 based Navitimers so it's a proper comparison to the older Pilots or the current ones respectively, but it's definitely a review that's on my to-do list once I get a chance to shoot the Navitimer.
this video should be titled - why is iwc, an airport duty-free brand, so expensive? would love to see that video comparing the new and old movements )
#savage 😂 and yeah id love to do a feature about the in house movements vs the work they put into rebuilding 7750s before they went in house - from what I understand IWC was one of the few mainstream brands that was doing proper modifications to their ETAs instead of just dropping them in with a branded rotor and calling it a day 😅
@@ShahLusso I don't know man. I love my UNs. Actually just got my first manufacture movement driven UN with the grand feu dial (!).. Loving it
Lol. “Why are watches going up in price?” It’s called inflation, coupled with currency debasement, i.e. printing money out of thin air. Piece of advice - buy bitcoin and thank me later.